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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/31843600:31
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openstackgerritDharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text for swift_store_utils opts  https://review.openstack.org/34248501:10
openstackgerritDharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text for glare loader opts.  https://review.openstack.org/34225401:11
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance_store: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33988701:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34004801:42
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34255003:40
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gabor_antalhello! Anybody there?07:56
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abhishekkjokke_: hi, you around?08:37
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jokke_hi abhishekk08:56
abhishekkhi, I have checked nova impelementation and it will return all request-ids there as well08:57
jokke_someone will be happy realizing that :P08:58
abhishekkjokke_: between what you suggested yesterday to log same request-id for pagination will need changes at both the ends clinet as well as server08:59
jokke_and there is not even reasonable way around that in Nova cause I think their implementatio does not allow sending the req-id when making request08:59
abhishekkjokke_: right08:59
abhishekkjokke_: https://review.openstack.org/331981 could you please have a look at it? as per your convinience?09:04
jokke_I will09:07
abhishekkjokke_: thank you09:08
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jokke_oh, that one ... sorry I missed the new PS on it09:13
abhishekkjokke_: thank you :D09:14
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gabor_antalHey, can anyone help me a little bit? I have an old patch, which was said that i should do specs also. How this going on glance, Why are so few specs in the specs repo? Anyone can help me?09:23
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kairatnikhil, rbd store doesn't have auth part AFAIK09:24
kairatIt can be possible to have auth issues if rados is used with swift driver but looks like it is not the current case09:25
kairatnikhil, Daviey I suggest to dig into glance-api logs first09:26
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abhishekkkairat: https://review.openstack.org/331981 could you please have a look at it? as per your convinience?09:27
kairatabhishekk, yep, np09:27
abhishekkkairat: thank you09:27
abhishekkgabor_antal: what exactly you are looking for?09:28
openstackgerritjingtao liang proposed openstack/glance_store: Cleanup i18n marker functions to match Oslo docs  https://review.openstack.org/34269909:30
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gabor_antalabhishekk: Previously I made a patch where I extracted numerical response numbers to symbolic constants (like it can be seen in swift) but I only got comments, that I should do a spec to discuss the way we can do this (urL: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273196/). And I'd like to do that spec. On nova, lots of specs are there, and lots of activity happens every day. But on glance, I barely can see any activities with speccs.09:36
gabor_antalSo can you guide me a bit?09:36
kairatgabor_antal, I am against spec personally09:37
kairatIt looks like bikeshedding09:38
kairatgabor_antal, I personally prefer to use standart where it is possible09:38
kairatall these codes(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273196/1/glance/common/http.py) already exists in httplib09:39
abhishekkin six package as well09:39
kairatso I will support you with this change without the spec09:39
kairatyep, in six also09:39
abhishekkkairat ++ for without spec09:40
kairatgabor_antal, you can also omit updates for api v109:41
gabor_antalOkay, so if I change it to the common httplib version, is it okay?09:42
kairatbecause it is deprecated officially (or will be deprecated), so it will be useless work09:42
kairatyep, for me it is okay09:42
gabor_antalkairat: okay, i will keep my eye on this.09:43
gabor_antalCan you please add yourself as a reviewer? On monday I will commit these changes09:43
abhishekkgabor_antal: he is already there in the reviewers list09:44
kairatyep, i -1'ed your patch :=)09:45
gabor_antalYes, I can see it.09:45
gabor_antalThanks for your help, I'll commit the changes on monday09:46
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abhishekkthanks kairat09:55
kairatabhishekk, np09:55
kairatbtw, are you involved in some kind of debugging service for openstack?09:55
kairator you are just support OS cloud09:56
kairatabhishekk, I am interesting if request-id is already useful for users09:57
abhishekkkairat: I just support OS cloud09:58
kairatwe are using oslo.middleware in glare for request-id, https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/request_id.py09:58
kairatabhishekk, do other project also use middleware for request-id generation?09:59
abhishekkkairat:yes09:59
kairatcool09:59
abhishekknova is also using this oslo.middleware10:00
abhishekkIMO only glance has its own middleware for generating request-ids10:00
kairatabhishekk, ok, got it, thanks for info10:01
abhishekknova, cinder, keystone, neutron are using oslo.middleware/request_id.py10:01
abhishekkkairat, np10:01
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Davieykairat: There is nothing really useful there... Just PATCH 403.  However.. the instance was booted from 'packer'.. and it seems to be using ceph as ephemeral disk, rather than boot from Volume.. and snapshotting an rbd ephemeral disks seems to cause this.10:53
Davieyso i'm not sure if this is working as-designed, a bug in packer or a bug in nova. :/10:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-glanceclient: Log request-id for each api call  https://review.openstack.org/33198110:56
johnthetubaguyjokke_: abhishekk: we don't want people picking an arbitrary request-id, because it would break our logs, I thought the plan was to supply an additional request-id, so the two request-ids get logged together, to help cascade things down? (think about creating two ports for a single VM create)10:56
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jokke_johnthetubaguy: so glance had the req-id support (and support to provide the req id to the service) already when the cross project work started ... I still don't see how it breaks any logs, we limit the length and if someone really wants to feck themselves over by sending something arbitary on their every single request instead of utilizing the uniqueness, they really just shoot themselves into the foot11:01
jokke_but on situations like paginating it's incredibly handy that you don't need to deal with thousands of req id's which really defets the purpose of them as well11:02
johnthetubaguyjokke_: so I am oversimplifying, the user doing bad things is a very weak argument, its just one that came up when we discussed this in Nova11:04
johnthetubaguyjokke_: if you sell support on your public cloud, you really don't want that to happen11:04
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jokke_johnthetubaguy: I was closely following the discussion when the x-project spec was on the review and I know that topic came out ... I did not see it fitting then and I still don't11:07
jokke_like we have had that functionality in glance, I've yet to hear a single case where that would have been abused11:07
jokke_just like we allow our users to set their image-id, which will land to the logs and we haven't had issues with that either11:08
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johnthetubaguyanyways, I think there is a more important use case for all this11:10
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johnthetubaguyduring a VM create, we have a single request-id for that, and multiple calls to many services11:10
johnthetubaguynow there are totally multiple ways of doing this, but the one I thought we had gone for (and I probably just lost track), was logging the incoming request-id next to the generated request-id11:11
johnthetubaguythat way we get the best of both worlds, I think11:11
johnthetubaguyalthough you do get a very long log line11:11
jokke_johnthetubaguy: so the logging plan as I understood it was that you log the response req id with the one that you have on that request you got ... only two11:12
jokke_so when someone creates VM lets say from image that is stored in swift you will not see the swift req id ever in nova logs11:13
jokke_so there is still lots of jumping around to map it. It's possible it's just lots of work11:13
jokke_but when you end up to situation where you're listing 50k images and you get dumped 2.5k req ids with that list (like where this discussion initiated) that it just pure insanity11:14
johnthetubaguyjokke_: I guess it depends what you are trying to debug11:17
johnthetubaguyjokke_: and what log tooling you are using11:17
jokke_like user and support perspective the most convenient option is that your nova call returns you exactly one req-id for that VM creation and that req id would show to all calls related to that VM creation across the services11:17
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Add locks to sqlalchemy db  https://review.openstack.org/34235811:17
johnthetubaguyjokke_: agreed, Nova *must* return one and only one request-id to the user11:21
johnthetubaguyjokke_: you need to trace its path through all the services11:21
johnthetubaguyjokke_: for the first version, I am OK with that being the request-id11:22
johnthetubaguyjokke_: its just I know that leaves me relying on timestamps to debug things11:22
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johnthetubaguyjokke_: the nothing we have right now is way worse than *something*11:23
jokke_johnthetubaguy: I do agree11:23
johnthetubaguyjokke_: I think this is one of the things we need to make an OpenStack wide priority for the next cycle11:23
jokke_johnthetubaguy: I haven't been against req-ids at any point11:24
johnthetubaguyjokke_: +1, just working out where we agree11:24
johnthetubaguyjokke_: I think its 99% of it11:24
jokke_but if you want to have nova returning you individual req-id for each paginate call, have fun, we can avoid that in glance and plan to do so even if that means that it behaves bit differently compared to nova ;)11:25
jokke_end result will be anyways that one will have req-id(s) related to their operation that can be correlated to the logs == profit11:26
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johnthetubaguyjokke_: yeah, so I don't want Nova returning multiple to the end user, only ever one request-id11:29
johnthetubaguyjokke_: what I am would like (in an ideal world), is to uniquely identify each create port request to Neutron separately, so I can tell which one failed, as part of that create instance request-id11:30
johnthetubaguyjokke_: but the knowing it was part of the create request is more important, its just I would like both, ideally11:30
johnthetubaguyjokke_: in my head, Nova still returns one request-id, and it sends that to all those create port calls, its just in the logs in neutron, you can see there were multiple requests, and on the nova side we log the request-id we get back for each create call from Neutron11:31
johnthetubaguyjokke_: as you say, nova -> glance -> swift gets messy, but I think glance could pass the incoming request id (the nova create instance one) to swift, and maybe that works11:32
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johnthetubaguythat way you get the nova create request-id in all the logs, but you have next to it a unique id for each chunk fetch11:33
jokke_johnthetubaguy: the beauty of the current glance behavior is that you as caller of the api can decide that ... so if you don't supply the req-id you will get one unique for your call ... so like this paginate situation ... we're going to not being sending req-ids for most of our api calls from the client ... like when you list we don't send the req-id initially so we get new one and what I'm proposing here is that because we can we sho11:33
johnthetubaguyjokke_: that doesn't work for me11:33
johnthetubaguyjokke_: I need my request-id in the glance logs11:34
jokke_johnthetubaguy: well with glance you can do that ... with the rest of the services you cant11:34
johnthetubaguyjokke_: but I want a unique request-id for each of the calls to glance11:34
johnthetubaguyjokke_: yes, true11:34
jokke_johnthetubaguy: and that's where we 100% agree ... that's what I wanted as well11:34
jokke_ok so glance does not generate one for you if you supply it one11:35
johnthetubaguyjokke_: so I don't think glance should move to oslo, until it gives you something better, I am just curious where we are all at really11:35
johnthetubaguyjokke_: yeah, I think we need to do both, supply, and generate one11:35
johnthetubaguythen passed the supplied one down to swift, etc11:36
jokke_johnthetubaguy: that's why we didn't, because moving to oslo would have broken us backwards11:36
johnthetubaguyjokke_: yeah, ++ that11:36
johnthetubaguyI should find time to go work on this in oslo, its bugging me11:36
jokke_as said we had it before the decision was made on the x-project level ... luckily we supported all the functionality from the middleware perspective that the x-proj needed11:37
jokke_so we could keep both11:38
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openstackgerritDarja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Add test for Glare  https://review.openstack.org/34275211:40
jokke_johnthetubaguy: I'd really like if we could move this towards 2 req-ids but other way around than now ... so you generate the req-id when the call intially comes in, you pass that one with every call you make and that one req-id will be passed through the whole chain of the requests, logged and each individual call would generate their own that they would add to their logs and return to caller. That way you could only return that initi11:43
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kairatDaviey, you are adding a location here11:46
kairatIf location looks like rbd://<some_address> then it goes to rbd driver11:47
kairatotherwise ceph shouldn't be involved here11:47
jokke__if_ that driver has been enabled11:47
kairatAre you sure you have show_multiple_location=True11:47
kairatyep, ++ to jokke_11:47
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openstackgerritDarja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: Add distinction layer  https://review.openstack.org/27211812:09
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johnthetubaguyjokke_: so I think thats the same thing I was trying to describe above12:31
openstackgerritDarja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: Add distinction layer  https://review.openstack.org/27211812:33
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jokke_johnthetubaguy: yes, I was kind of recapping that for myself in form of agreement ;)12:37
johnthetubaguyjokke_: cool12:38
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rosmaitadshakhray: yt?12:59
dshakhrayrosmaita, yes12:59
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34004813:00
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rosmaitadshakhray: i need a favor ... can you look over the stuff i wrote about the "in" operator for the api-ref? you don't have to read the entire patch, just the diff between patch sets 9 and 1013:01
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/332950/9..10/api-ref/source/v2/images-images-v2.inc13:01
rosmaitai left a question or two for you inline13:01
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dshakhrayrosmaita: I understood correctly, the request "GET v2/images?name=in:"glass,%20darkly",share%20me" did not work?13:09
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nikhilrosmaita: just let me know a bit before (if) you plan to upload a new PS for api ref. I will post my comments and pick up rest of the work on latest one.13:11
rosmaitadshakhray: that one worked13:11
rosmaitadshakhray: the problem one was where the name had quotation marks in it13:12
rosmaitai couldn't get this one to work: "really,+really+\"good\"+image"13:13
rosmaitathe outer " are needed because the name has a comma in it13:13
rosmaitabut then the inner " need escaping13:13
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rosmaitadshakhray: iirc it didnt' return an error, just an empty list of results13:14
* rosmaita is looking for his notes13:14
rosmaitanikhil: will do13:14
rosmaitadshakhray: using just the regular = finds the image:13:17
rosmaitacurl -X GET -H "x-auth-token: $TK" 'http://localhost:9292/v2/images?name=really,%20really%20"good"%20image'13:17
rosmaitabut using 'in' did not13:17
rosmaitacurl -X GET -H "x-auth-token: $TK" 'http://localhost:9292/v2/images?name=in:"really,%20really%20\"good\"%20image"'13:17
dshakhrayrosmaita: symbol  "%" - special to use it within quotation marks, it must be escaped \13:18
dshakhrayi.e http://localhost:9292/v2/images?name=in:"really,\%20really\%20\"good\"\%20image"13:19
rosmaitaok, cool, let me try that one in my devstack13:20
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dshakhrayI checked on devstek, "\%20" working properly13:20
dshakhrayok)13:20
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rosmaitadshakhray: not sure what i'm doing wrong13:28
rosmaitadevVM! curl -X GET -H "x-auth-token: $TK" 'http://localhost:9292/v2/images?name=really,%20really%20"good"%20image'13:28
rosmaita{"images": [{"status": "queued", "name": "really, really \"good\" image", "tags": ["gotta space", "ferd"], "container_format": null, "created_at": "2016-07-06T17:34:39Z", "size": null, "disk_format": null, "updated_at": "2016-07-08T19:58:30Z", "visibility": "private", "self": "/v2/images/240ab36f-6704-47d9-8be1-b1f3d917085b", "min_disk": 0, "protected": false, "id": "240ab36f-6704-47d9-8be1-b1f3d917085b", "file": "/v2/images/240ab36f-6704-47d9-8be13:28
rosmaitadevVM!13:28
rosmaitadevVM! curl -X GET -H "x-auth-token: $TK" 'http://localhost:9292/v2/images?name=in:"really,\%20really\%20\"good\"\%20image"'13:28
rosmaita{"images": [], "schema": "/v2/schemas/images", "first": "/v2/images?name=in%3A%22really%2C%5C+really%5C+%5C%22good%5C%22%5C+image%22"}devVM!13:28
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dshakhrayI think the problem is in quotes in the name...13:42
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rosmaitayeah, i tried several things, like double-backslashing, couldn't get it to work13:44
rosmaitajust wanted to make sure i was trying the right things13:44
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Add test for Glare  https://review.openstack.org/34275214:03
dshakhray_rosmaita: the problem arises from the fact that the name of the image does not contain a \ before the quote14:05
dshakhray_because of this, the filter can not distinguish what type quote - part of the name or not14:07
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rosmaitadshakhray_: that seems like a bug?14:16
rosmaita(not that this situation should arise very often)14:17
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting to correct memory/performance issues.14:17
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openstackgerritNiall Bunting proposed openstack/glance: Introduce a policy to govern the deletion of deactivated images  https://review.openstack.org/25638114:37
openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance-specs: Database strategy for rolling upgrades  https://review.openstack.org/33174014:38
rosmaitanikhil: i think i should remove lines 310-317 in images-images-v2.inc until we've sorted out how the escaping is supposed to work14:49
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rosmaitanikhil: but that's the only change i'd make14:50
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rosmaitanikhil: let me know if you want a new PS now; otherwise i'll make the change when i address whatever comments you have on the current patch14:51
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare  https://review.openstack.org/29232715:08
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nikhilrosmaita: I got only 30% thru :/ lemme publish comments now15:11
nikhilrosmaita: published, will wait for you now.15:13
openstackgerritjingtao liang proposed openstack/glance_store: Cleanup i18n marker functions to match Oslo docs  https://review.openstack.org/34269915:17
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare  https://review.openstack.org/29232715:18
rosmaitanikhil: ok, thanks15:18
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare  https://review.openstack.org/29232715:19
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openstackgerritHemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/glance_store: Cleanup i18n marker functions to match Oslo docs  https://review.openstack.org/34269915:21
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rosmaitanikhil: left some replies; i will make changes based on your responses15:36
nikhilThx looking15:36
nikhilrosmaita: replied15:39
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openstackgerritNiall Bunting proposed openstack/glance: Introduce a policy to govern the deletion of deactivated images  https://review.openstack.org/25638115:48
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openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance: WADL to RST migration (part 2 - images)  https://review.openstack.org/33295016:02
tsymanczyknikhil : rosmaita : good morning and happy friday! re community images sync. the spec seems mostly stable. as to the actual code / active changeset. what i've been struggling with is that i absolutely LOATHE code that requires people with a deep knowledge base to spend significant time staring at it to figure out correctness - so i've been trying to come up16:04
tsymanczykwith a plan to make the changeset such that it's clearly and unambiguously correct. i BELIEVE that i've finally come up with a plan of this nature and am methodically knocking down the (locally) broken unit tests. if this plan is not another dead end and the wind is just right i hope to drop the majority-patchset some time next week. time will tell if that's16:04
tsymanczykhow it goes. ... no other news or questions from my end.16:04
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nikhiltsymanczyk: g'morning and happy friday. thanks for that update. I saw rosmaita posted some comment last night however, I haven't had any chance to take a look. as far as change itself goes, I would love to help out as much as I can, so if you feel confortable collaborating, please publish a WIP change set (if any besides16:10
nikhilhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/326128/ ) and we can work together to fix things.16:10
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tsymanczyknikhil : rosmaita's comments from yesterday were both minor and reasonable, and should already be addressed. thank you for the explicit offer to help - the next time i find myself significantly stuck i will certainly take you up on that. i understand how busy you must be, and will strive not to bother you unless it's necessary.16:13
hemanthm|afkkairat: this is more or less ready for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331740/16:14
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nikhiltsymanczyk: thank you! from my end, things look great so, I will keep a passive watch until you want otherwise.16:15
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tsymanczyknikhil : one last thing, my company is taking a mandatory shutdown for the end of july - so i'll be away and travelling for the next two thursday-glance-meetings and friday-community-images syncs. i will try to sync with you on irc wednesday before close-of-business. i very much hope to drop the patchset by then - but i've been wrong about my estimates on16:22
tsymanczykthis before.16:22
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openstackgerritDharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text for RPC opt  https://review.openstack.org/34294716:27
nikhiltsymanczyk: gotcha, have fun with time away. no issues on estimates, please drop off whatever you have in any state the patch set may be in. we don't judge here in glance (except for some people) but your feature and subset of team involved is friendly on that front.16:28
tsymanczyknikhil : sounds good, thank you. :)16:29
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nikhil:)16:29
openstackgerritDharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text for RPC opt  https://review.openstack.org/34294716:32
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openstackgerritRyan Selden proposed openstack/glance: {WIP} Properly validate metadef objects  https://review.openstack.org/34301217:56
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openstackgerritItisha Dewan proposed openstack/glance_store: Improve the help text for vmware datastore driver opts  https://review.openstack.org/34228618:11
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openstackgerritItisha Dewan proposed openstack/glance_store: Improve the help text for vmware datastore driver opts  https://review.openstack.org/34228618:39
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nikhilrosmaita: got a few more comments https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332950/19:40
nikhilrosmaita: lemme know if you wanna follow PS19:41
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openstackgerritRyan Selden proposed openstack/glance: {WIP} Properly validate metadef objects  https://review.openstack.org/34301220:06
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openstackgerritRyan Selden proposed openstack/glance: Properly validate metadef objects  https://review.openstack.org/34301221:00
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