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| pkarikh | hi folks! Who can tell me, what exactly means tag DocImact - that patch contains documantation changes or that patch only requires that the documentation has been changed? | 08:29 |
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| rdopieralski | pkarikh: isn't that the same thing? | 08:31 |
| jpich | Hi pkarikh. It means the patch affects the documentation (e.g. install guide), it sends an email to the docs team list -> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/DocImpact | 08:31 |
| jpich | Ideally one would follow up to help the docs team with the update too :) | 08:31 |
| amotoki | AFAIK if a patch has DocImpact flag, a bug will be filed when the patch is merged. | 08:32 |
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| pkarikh | rdopieralski perhaps I'm not quite formulated the question, sorry. :) I mean, this tag means I'm the author of the commit already changed the documentation, right? | 08:33 |
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| pkarikh | * tag means that the author of commit | 08:33 |
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| rdopieralski | pkarikh: yeah, nobody will change the documentation for you | 08:34 |
| rdopieralski | pkarikh: if your change requires documentation changes, you have to include them in the patch | 08:34 |
| amotoki | pkarikh: DocImpact flag means your commit affect the documentaiton and some work on documentation is required. | 08:35 |
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| pkarikh | rdopieralski, I always change documentation, but wasn't sure whether to ask another person to change documentation in review. Now it's clear, thanks. | 08:36 |
| pkarikh | amotoki, ok, thank you. | 08:37 |
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| nikunj2512 | @rdopieralski: This is related to detecting browser version blueprint. Do you have minute to talk? | 09:59 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: sure | 09:59 |
| nikunj2512 | @rdopieralski: As i remember we agreed that we will parse the User-Agent string and then inject the message in the base template, correct?? | 10:00 |
| mrunge | wtf.... | 10:00 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: What happened?? | 10:01 |
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| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: I think I just said that it's the least icky of the solutions that were mentioned | 10:01 |
| mrunge | still that warning thing? | 10:01 |
| mrunge | I'm still not convinced at all nikunj2512 | 10:01 |
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| nikunj2512 | mrunge: Why?? | 10:02 |
| jpich | For stuff we don't support at all like IE8 it makes sense to me, to gently let users know | 10:02 |
| nikunj2512 | jpich: that is what my intentions are | 10:02 |
| rdopieralski | jpich: yeah, but then we need an explicit black list of "known broken" versions, I think | 10:02 |
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| rdopieralski | jpich: I think I would even phrase the message like that, "The browser that you seem to be using is know to have problems with Horizon." | 10:03 |
| rdopieralski | known | 10:03 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: yes, we can test things in different browsers with different versions and can come up with a minimum version for browsers in which horizon will work | 10:03 |
| jpich | rdopieralski: That sounds acceptable to me, just the old stuff, and a warning only once on the login page or something - let me people continue at their own risk if they wish | 10:04 |
| mrunge | i don't think, it's a good idea to query for browser versions at all | 10:05 |
| mrunge | because they are changing so fast | 10:05 |
| nikunj2512 | jpich: message is not yet decided that is why i asked Horizon community to help and decide what should be the message | 10:05 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: that's not going to work, because the agent string is notoriously tricky to parse, and non-mainstream browsers will appear to be be an old version, but might actually support everything fine | 10:05 |
| mrunge | and we don't remind windows users not to use it | 10:05 |
| mrunge | etc. | 10:05 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: the idea is to only show it for known broken versions | 10:05 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: that is, for the versions that are released long time ago and we know don't work | 10:06 |
| mrunge | sigh. | 10:07 |
| nikunj2512 | @rdopieralski: for non-mainstream browsers, we can tell user that Horizon is not test on this browser and please proceed at Your own risk | 10:07 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: I don't like it either, I'm just looking for the least wrong way of doing it | 10:07 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: I don't think we should do that | 10:07 |
| mrunge | it sounds like a waste of time for me | 10:08 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: agreed | 10:08 |
| mrunge | sorry nikunj2512 for those harsh words | 10:08 |
| rdopieralski | then again, we should not discourage contributors :) | 10:08 |
| mrunge | I appreciate *every* contributor | 10:08 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: nothing to be sorry for but as jpich told, it just to show users that we don't support this version of the browser | 10:09 |
| jpich | I'd agree that a blacklist of old versions/known bad version seems sufficient here | 10:09 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: if you see the horizon bug list many duplicate bugs are there related to older browsers | 10:09 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, yes, I see that. | 10:09 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: the thing is, if someone has a non-mainstream browser, there is a good chance that they alreay know perfectly well that they use it at their own risk, and often have no choice about it | 10:09 |
| mrunge | maybe we should fix those issues? | 10:09 |
| mrunge | as customers will come exactly with those deprecated, defunct or whatever versions | 10:10 |
| mrunge | and will request to fix | 10:10 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: yes but i think it is our duty to atleast warn them just for once | 10:10 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: it's noty | 10:10 |
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| rdopieralski | not | 10:11 |
| rdopieralski | this is patronizing and annoying | 10:11 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: The issues which old browsers have specially IE are way too many and i think it will create more mess to support them | 10:11 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, and as long as Windows XP is still more popular than newer Windows versions, folks will use IE 8 (or whatever was latest) | 10:11 |
| rdopieralski | and drives people into the mainstream browsers, which strenghtens the monopoly and hurts the web itsel | 10:11 |
| rdopieralski | f | 10:11 |
| mrunge | +1 rdopieralski | 10:11 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge, rdopieralski: I seriouly don't know what to say more :( | 10:12 |
| jpich | I don't think we should even try to support unsupported browsers, IE8 is EOL | 10:12 |
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| nikunj2512 | jpich: +1 | 10:13 |
| rdopieralski | we don't | 10:13 |
| jpich | There are a few browsers, especially old IEs, that we explicitly don't support, IMO a blacklist with a warning is a nice to have | 10:13 |
| jpich | Otherwise I agree with rdopieralski that we shouldn't have a whitelist of "explicitly tested browsers", that way lies madness | 10:13 |
| rdopieralski | the warning is only on the login page, by the way | 10:13 |
| nikunj2512 | But when user uses horizon in old browsers and when we don't show any kind of message user thinks all will work in this browser | 10:14 |
| rdopieralski | not on every page or anything like that | 10:14 |
| jpich | That sounds good to me | 10:14 |
| mrunge | jpich, nikunj2512 whenever you need to tweak pages to be shown on ...., there's something completely broken | 10:14 |
| jpich | That sounds good to me -> +1 login page only, aka once | 10:14 |
| nikunj2512 | jpich: Yes warning is only on login page | 10:14 |
| jpich | mrunge: Fancy javascript stuffs usually ends up implying browser restrictions, I suspect it'll get worse before it gets better :| | 10:15 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: well, normally there would be the issue of caching proxies and the like | 10:15 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: but horizon is a login-only webpage, so that's not relevant | 10:15 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: I mean, you won't cache the pages anyways | 10:16 |
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| nikunj2512 | jpich: that is what we can use bare minimum JS or User-Agent pasring | 10:17 |
| mrunge | rdopieralski, yes, but that's not contrary to something said before. | 10:17 |
| nikunj2512 | jpich: i wanted to use jquery_migrate but rdopieralski told it can be removed anytime in future | 10:17 |
| mrunge | I'd still vote for supporting a standard, not for supporting a browser | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add floating ip status to table https://review.openstack.org/128185 | 10:19 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: so compile a list of js and css features that we require, and check those with modernizr? | 10:19 |
| mrunge | rdopieralski, no. why? | 10:19 |
| jpich | mrunge: A nice goal, and it might work out that way, showing the warning to people whose browser knowingly don't support X or Y. I doubt most users would know what standard(s) their browser supports | 10:19 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: supporting a standard is impractical when 1/3 of the market uses browsers that fail to implement it | 10:20 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski, jpich: +1 | 10:20 |
| mrunge | maybe it helps, if we'd create a customer ticket at major vendors for not supporting feature x or y | 10:20 |
| mrunge | and I still think, there is a basis supported by all browsers | 10:21 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: no, because the browsers in question have been released 10 years ago, are not acticely developed or supported and new versions have it fixed already | 10:21 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: But how will you still stop users from using old browsers and then saying things are not working | 10:21 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: why do you need to stop users? | 10:21 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, as long as 60% of users are still on wondows xp, what can we do there? | 10:22 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: I meant tell the users to use the lastes version | 10:22 |
| mrunge | rdopieralski, we could ask vendors for backporting features ;-) | 10:23 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: By default XP have IE 8, we can tell them to upgrade to IE 9 or higher | 10:23 |
| rdopieralski | mrunge: won't happen | 10:23 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, really? | 10:23 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: Do You seriouly think microsoft will do that | 10:23 |
| mrunge | I doubt it | 10:23 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: Yes | 10:23 |
| mrunge | I still think, we shouldn't use those features, if they are not supported | 10:24 |
| mrunge | what value do we have from that? | 10:24 |
| jpich | A much nicer user experience for users with recent browsers | 10:24 |
| jpich | e.g. I still struggle to set up networking properly without the network topology view | 10:24 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: Which features?? You mean we should not use new feature provided by HTML and CSS just because older browsers don't have support | 10:24 |
| nikunj2512 | ?? | 10:24 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, basically: yes | 10:25 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: User Experince matters. Just think will be still using gmail if they had bad user expericence | 10:25 |
| nikunj2512 | ?? | 10:25 |
| mrunge | jpich, struggle to set up networking is mostly due to neutron issues | 10:25 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, why use gmail? | 10:26 |
| jpich | mrunge: The network topology view is still lovely | 10:26 |
| jpich | lol | 10:26 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: with all respect, that is ridiculuos. Why should we limit ourselves | 10:26 |
| mrunge | because of user experience? | 10:26 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: yes | 10:26 |
| mrunge | interesting. | 10:26 |
| jpich | mrunge: I'm afraid this particular ship has sailed :-) | 10:26 |
| mrunge | IMHO that's highly dependent of your point of view | 10:27 |
| mrunge | jpich, yes, probably. | 10:27 |
| mrunge | I still believe it's wrong | 10:27 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: we can backport the nice horizon features :) | 10:27 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: we can't backport the nice horizon features :) | 10:27 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: Sorry missed a not there :p | 10:28 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, sorry, I can't follow you | 10:28 |
| mrunge | nikunj2512, why should we backport nice features? | 10:28 |
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| nikunj2512 | mrunge: As You should we should not use new feature provided by HTML and CSS. As jpich mentioned that now that is not possible. So, i am saying i don't think so it will be wise to backport most of the nice features of horizon for older browsers | 10:29 |
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| nikunj2512 | mrunge: Backporting will be more cucumbersome and messy than notifying the user | 10:29 |
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| mrunge | nikunj2512, I thought you were talking about backporting features to older horizon versions | 10:30 |
| jpich | mrunge: Currently we're getting bugs because some things (like the network topology view) don't work with IE8, so it seems worthwhile giving this notification workaround a shot | 10:31 |
| nikunj2512 | mrunge: if user uses user agent switcher then it is their wish and we should not be concern about that | 10:31 |
| jpich | We can revert it if it causes more issues than it resolves | 10:31 |
| jpich | No one will be blocked from using horizon | 10:31 |
| nikunj2512 | jpich: yes no one will be blocked, just a friendly warning | 10:31 |
| nikunj2512 | jpich: And even after the warning if they still want to use it, its their wish but from our end we did our job in notifying them | 10:32 |
| rdopieralski | jpich: the solution that I would have chosen would be to use modernizr to check for the particular features that the network view needs, and display a message in a placeholder only there | 10:33 |
| rdopieralski | jpich: but that's obviously much more work | 10:33 |
| jpich | rdopieralski: If that's the only thing we know doesn't work, it's an option. I wouldn't be surprised if more things are not working though - but I haven't tested it | 10:34 |
| rdopieralski | that would be the "correct" way | 10:34 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: but broken network topology is just one instance what about broken css?? | 10:34 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: you could say that about any bug in Horizon | 10:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikunj Aggarwal proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fixes resource name problem in "Resources Usage" tab https://review.openstack.org/125307 | 10:34 |
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| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: yet we don't display a warning to the users "this application may contain defects, use at own risk" | 10:35 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: yes but It is not as much as screwed up as in older browsers | 10:35 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: instead we try to fix or work around the individual bugs | 10:35 |
| rdopieralski | maybe we shouldn't be trying to fix all those bugs at once with a single patch | 10:36 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: we are not saying that Horizon is defected, we will be saying the browser doesn't supports some of its features | 10:36 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: you are missing my point | 10:36 |
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| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Sorry, can You explain what is Your point. | 10:37 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: the fact that there are many bugs related to browsers doesn't mean that we have to fix them all at once with a single patch | 10:37 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: in fact, the more you try to fix at once, the less useful the fix is | 10:37 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Ok | 10:38 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: yours is at the brink of simply shifting the blame | 10:38 |
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| rdopieralski | the users don't care whose fault it is that it doesn't work | 10:38 |
| rdopieralski | they just want a solution | 10:39 |
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| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Yes and we are giving them solution | 10:39 |
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| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: We will be telling them upgrade your browser | 10:39 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: But if none of You guys think that this will be a value add to the horizon than we can drop this.. | 10:41 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: I am just trying to reduce the problem set | 10:41 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: of course, and we appreciate your work on that | 10:43 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: but we think that the solution you came up with is maybe a little bit too general | 10:43 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: then again, we can try it and see what happens | 10:43 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: I replied to your e-mail to make sure it's clear that there is no consensus on this matter | 10:45 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Yes, i am also just asking a try, it will not be a major change | 10:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Replace the glyphicons with font awesome icons https://review.openstack.org/119369 | 10:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Hide the "Host Aggregates" admin panel if not enabled https://review.openstack.org/121127 | 11:06 |
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| tsufiev | jpomero, hi! are you there? | 11:42 |
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| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Please say something.. What to do?? Either reject this idea or give it a shot?? | 12:10 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: I'm not the king of horizon, I don't make decisions, I can only give you my opinion | 12:11 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: which I did | 12:11 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: So, don't implement... Ok :(.. Thank You | 12:11 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: perhaps you could come to today's team meeting? | 12:12 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: in 4 hours from now | 12:12 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Ok.. Same channel?? | 12:12 |
| rdopieralski | no | 12:12 |
| rdopieralski | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 12:13 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: you can add it to the agenda | 12:13 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Ok.. Thank You | 12:13 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: that's for the summit | 12:16 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: add it on the wiki | 12:16 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: By editing the wiki?? | 12:17 |
| rdopieralski | yes | 12:17 |
| rdopieralski | you can log in with your launchpad account | 12:17 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: i did, so i add below the "Move to DB backend session" topic?? | 12:18 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: i edited it, please can you take a look?? | 12:19 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: I added it for you | 12:19 |
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| rdopieralski | ah, nevermind, I will delete it | 12:19 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Thank You | 12:20 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: No i deleted mine | 12:20 |
| rdopieralski | argh | 12:20 |
| rdopieralski | :) | 12:20 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Thank You | 12:20 |
| rdopieralski | nikunj2512: this thing wastes much too much time, really | 12:20 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Yes but i think it will be a good feature to have it in Horizon. We can certainly give this feature a chance :) | 12:21 |
| nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: I am pushing this because i wish to improve the user experience for the end-user. And i know everyone here wants the same | 12:22 |
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| jpomero | tsufiev, hi | 12:31 |
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| akrivoka | nikunj2512: ping | 12:50 |
| nikunj2512 | akrivoka: Hi | 12:50 |
| akrivoka | nikunj2512: hi! I was wondering if it's ok if I took over this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1378240 | 12:51 |
| akrivoka | nikunj2512: I have a fix already | 12:51 |
| nikunj2512 | akrivoka: Ok :) | 12:52 |
| akrivoka | nikunj2512: great, thanks! | 12:52 |
| nikunj2512 | akrivoka: no problem and Thank You :) | 12:52 |
| tsufiev | jpomero, hi! I've left a comment in your patch for fixing dynamic select. Seems that some changes in bootstrap has broken it | 12:54 |
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| jpomero | tsufiev, thanks i will take a look | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Justin Pomeroy proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix dynamic select layout when help block is displayed https://review.openstack.org/117021 | 13:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/horizon: [Data_processing] auto security group https://review.openstack.org/128263 | 13:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/horizon: [Data_processing] fix job_executions table https://review.openstack.org/125927 | 13:46 |
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| ericpeterson | I'm seeing the identity panel show up for non admin users in the left hand navigation, but clicking it gives me the "you are not authorized for this url" login screen. Any ideas??? | 14:50 |
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| pkarikh | ericpeterson have you changed default admin role name? | 14:58 |
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| doug-fish | ericpeterson: Did you have to do some configuration to make that happen? I have approximately the master level of horizon and a 1 month old dev stack. I don't see the Identity Panel when I log in. | 14:59 |
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| ericpeterson | yeah, not changed the admin role | 15:01 |
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| ericpeterson | if I add this after the policy declaration, it goes away: permissions = ('openstack.roles.admin', ) | 15:01 |
| ericpeterson | something is definitely wierd, must be my specific stuff. thanks for the sanity check doug-fish and pkarikh :) | 15:02 |
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| pkarikh | ericpeterson, are you shure that you using stable branch? There some patches about RBAC and checking permissions, but if I'm not mistaken, they have not been merged yet. | 15:05 |
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| ericpeterson | I roll on master. I'm hardcore ;) | 15:05 |
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| ericpeterson | my name and stable don't go together ;) | 15:06 |
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| jpich | ericpeterson: I smell tee-shirts slogans coming up, keep 'em coming! | 15:07 |
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| ericpeterson | jpich: you will owe all of us some insider tips on Paris and French stuff in general :) | 15:08 |
| jpich | ericpeterson: No matter what happens. make sure to carry at least one baguette at all times | 15:09 |
| tzumainn | what happens if you do not? | 15:10 |
| ericpeterson | you don't want to find out | 15:10 |
| pkarikh | ericpeterson, you can ensure that you do not affected themes from this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1161144 or this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/admin-rbac | 15:10 |
| pkarikh | I cannot offer anything more useful, sorry. :) | 15:10 |
| ericpeterson | pkarikh : my admin role is called admin | 15:11 |
| ericpeterson | it's something else I think | 15:11 |
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| pkarikh | ericpeterson, ok, sorry that I could not help you. :) | 15:13 |
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| ericpeterson | the method def _can_access(self, request): in the base class defaults to true for every panel.... the policy stuff is busted | 15:14 |
| david-lyle | _can_access should default to true | 15:14 |
| david-lyle | if there is not policy rule added to limit access, then assume allowed | 15:15 |
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| david-lyle | policy model is open then allow constraint on top of that | 15:15 |
| ericpeterson | the identity panels for users and projects is showing up for me, for non admin users | 15:16 |
| david-lyle | it's not just deny and allow selective permission | 15:16 |
| david-lyle | projects should show up | 15:16 |
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| ericpeterson | if you are not an admin it does? | 15:16 |
| david-lyle | yes | 15:17 |
| david-lyle | you will notice it's just a list of projects you have access to | 15:17 |
| ericpeterson | rule:admin_required why is that in the policy? that's confusing | 15:17 |
| david-lyle | ericpeterson, in what policy | 15:17 |
| david-lyle | you're question is confusing :) | 15:18 |
| david-lyle | s/you're/your | 15:18 |
| ericpeterson | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/identity/users/panel.py#L29 | 15:19 |
| ericpeterson | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/conf/keystone_policy.json#L44 | 15:19 |
| ericpeterson | that seems to point to admin being req'd | 15:19 |
| ericpeterson | except is doesn't work that way | 15:19 |
| ericpeterson | and I added some print output to def _can_access(self, request): in the base class, and every single class is defaulting to return true | 15:20 |
| ericpeterson | I could simplify that method alot if we always want to return true ;) | 15:21 |
| david-lyle | I should unless that policy check passes | 15:21 |
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| david-lyle | err fails | 15:21 |
| david-lyle | I think an "improvement" when in recently that may have "improved" the behavior | 15:21 |
| david-lyle | s/when/went/ | 15:21 |
| ericpeterson | git pull it is. thanks | 15:22 |
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| ericpeterson | it still shows up. digging some more. thanks for the help all | 15:25 |
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| amotoki | jpich: ping | 15:26 |
| jpich | amotoki: hey | 15:26 |
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| amotoki | jpich: i see your name as doc liaison. I heard the install guide for juno wil be cut tomorrow. | 15:26 |
| amotoki | jpich: do we need to cover how to compile message catalog in the installation guide? | 15:26 |
| tsufiev | ericpeterson, are you talking about the panel not being hidden? (sorry, too much text to read it all) | 15:27 |
| * jpich vaguely remembers putting herself as a Horizon point of contact for docs people | 15:28 | |
| amotoki | ^^ | 15:28 |
| david-lyle | ericpeterson, is your policy_check_function not set for some reason? | 15:28 |
| david-lyle | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/base.py#L129 | 15:28 |
| jpich | amotoki: If I recall correctly, the installation guide covers installing using packages so I would say no, it shouldn't be needed because the packages should have the translations already | 15:29 |
| jpich | amotoki: Could you also let me know where I am written down as a docs liaison? | 15:29 |
| david-lyle | jpich https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:30 |
| amotoki | jpich: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:30 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: you beat me :p | 15:30 |
| david-lyle | was just looking those up | 15:31 |
| jpich | Good to know. Thanks for the info david-lyle, amotoki | 15:31 |
| jpich | Better start attending the docs meetings then | 15:31 |
| david-lyle | if you didn't sign up for that, jpich, remove your name | 15:31 |
| ericpeterson | tsufiev david-lyle my issue started with this: the identity panels for projects and users show up in the navigation, but when I click on them I get the not authorized login screen thing | 15:32 |
| jpich | I'm not quite sure what it entails but I'll figure it out and give it a shot this cycle. I'd like to get a better understanding of how Horizon is covered in the main docs, I'm embarrassed to say I have very little idea | 15:32 |
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| ericpeterson | it seems like if the policy is preventing this eventually, why show it in the nav | 15:33 |
| amotoki | jpich: regarding the installation guide, you are correct. it depends on distros and we don't need to take care of it in the installation guide :-) | 15:33 |
| david-lyle | ericpeterson, it should not show if the policy rules don't allow | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | you are correct | 15:34 |
| jpich | amotoki: Sounds good to me so :-) | 15:34 |
| amotoki | regarding docs, we still need to explore how to manage the configuration guides.... horizon dev docs has no stable branch on docs.openstack.org. | 15:35 |
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| david-lyle | ericpeterson, you said you were in the debugger, you're not getting in https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/base.py#L133 ? | 15:38 |
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| tsufiev | ericpeterson, seems like a caching issue to me | 15:39 |
| ericpeterson | it gets into that loop | 15:39 |
| ericpeterson | yeah, it caches on first login - I see that too | 15:40 |
| tsufiev | ericpeterson, in case you log in - log out, do you still see Identity dashboard? | 15:42 |
| ericpeterson | yep | 15:43 |
| tsufiev | oh, I mean log out - log in | 15:43 |
| david-lyle | which policy check is passing? | 15:43 |
| ericpeterson | yeah, that's what I am doing to test as I don't trust the session allowed thing ;) | 15:43 |
| david-lyle | there are only two for the nav part | 15:43 |
| jpich | amotoki: The configuration guide for the dashboard could use some improvements indeed. Did you have some ideas? I'm thinking starting with the settings, and maybe also updating what is there for customisations (based on our own docs) | 15:44 |
| ericpeterson | policy_check((rule,), request) runs with rule = ('identity', 'identity:get_user') and it returns True | 15:44 |
| jpich | amotoki: Probably the info we have in /doc/ that's aimed at deployers rather than developers should move over... though the limit between deployer customising panels and developer creating panels is blurry | 15:45 |
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| * jpich going to think about it more | 15:45 | |
| david-lyle | and your policy file in openstack_dashboard/conf/policy.json what is the rule? | 15:45 |
| david-lyle | oops keystone.json | 15:45 |
| amotoki | jpich: agree. horizon dev docs have two kind of docs: for deployers and for developers. | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | err, keystone_policy.json | 15:46 |
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| ericpeterson | "identity:get_user": "rule:admin_required", | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | there only three tries | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | what roles does your user have? | 15:46 |
| ericpeterson | _member_ | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | that's it | 15:47 |
| david-lyle | ? | 15:47 |
| ericpeterson | lemme double check | 15:47 |
| amotoki | jpich: i have no good idea on how to improve the config guide on docs.openstack.org.... this is one of the reasons I like radomir's oslo.config proposal. | 15:47 |
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| amotoki | jpich: I think it is better to discuss it with docs people but personally I run out of time... | 15:49 |
| ericpeterson | I'm _member_ and that's it | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Change "System Info" to "System Information" https://review.openstack.org/129954 | 15:50 |
| jpich | amotoki: Yes, that's a good idea. I'll make sure to chat with people during the Summit if not before. Might become a general Kilo task for me :) | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Rewrite table filtering to use GET-requests https://review.openstack.org/128253 | 16:08 |
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| mgagne | Reading http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/customizing.html I see you can override existing methods like allowed to hide/disable buttons and stuff. I would also like to be able to override policy_rules attribute but it looks to not be possible. Can someone assist me? | 16:18 |
| jpich | mgagne: Is it not? It sounds like it should like overriding any other attribute, like "allowed" in the example? | 16:19 |
| mgagne | jpich: yep, that was the impression I got but button is still showing so I'm confused as to what I'm doing wrong | 16:20 |
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| jpich | mgagne: What did you overwrite it with? | 16:20 |
| mgagne | jpich: here is my use case: http://paste.openstack.org/show/122768/ | 16:21 |
| mgagne | jpich: I have an older version which didn't have policy rules for network so I wish to patch it with overrides | 16:21 |
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| mgagne | jpich: HORIZON_CONFIG['customization_module'] is set, POLICY_FILES_PATH and POLICY_PATH are also set with network policy | 16:23 |
| jpich | mgagne: Did neutron_policy.json already exist at the time? You may have to update the POLICY_FILES to reference your new config file otherwise -> https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/local/local_settings.py.example#L276 | 16:23 |
| jpich | ...ah :P | 16:23 |
| mgagne | jpich: obviously, my policy denies it and I'm testing with a normal user without admin role | 16:24 |
| mgagne | jpich: if I had the line directly in openstack_dashboard.dashboards.project.networks.tables, it works. using .allowed = NO instead of .policy_rules works fine | 16:25 |
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| jpich | mgagne: If you add the policy_rules straight into the code rather than customisation module, it's picked up correctly? | 16:27 |
| mgagne | jpich: yep | 16:27 |
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| mgagne | jpich: is there any config I can enable to debug policy checks? | 16:29 |
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| jpich | mgagne: ericpeterson was just playing with this... I'm not sure there's anything more sophisticated than "adding debug statement to the 'can_access' method" available currently | 16:30 |
| mgagne | jpich: I don't mind going down that path and debug | 16:30 |
| mgagne | jpich: that will do I guess | 16:30 |
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| mgagne | jpich: hahaha | 16:35 |
| mgagne | jpich: found it | 16:35 |
| jpich | mgagne: What is it what is it? | 16:35 |
| mgagne | jpich: the version of Horizon I have embed an old version of the policy enforcer which does not understand "unscoped" policy rule | 16:36 |
| mgagne | jpich: changed create_network rule to network:create_network in policy.json, updated my override accordingly and it's now working fine | 16:36 |
| jpich | mgagne: What does unscoped mean in the context of policies? | 16:36 |
| jpich | Oh, I see | 16:36 |
| mgagne | jpich: well, I might use the wrong word | 16:37 |
| jpich | mgagne: The example helped :-) | 16:37 |
| jpich | mgagne: But, wasn't it working when you modified the tables code directly? | 16:37 |
| * ericpeterson is going to read how mgagne solved this problem | 16:37 | |
| mgagne | jpich: let me recheck to be sure | 16:37 |
| jpich | ericpeterson: I think it comes from manually defining rules vs. using the default rules as defined in the original policy files, so probably won't help you :-) | 16:38 |
| mgagne | jpich: hmm I might be wrong on the conclusion | 16:38 |
| jpich | ericpeterson: ...Or not! | 16:38 |
| mgagne | jpich: but it still worked :-/ | 16:38 |
| mgagne | jpich: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/openstack/common/policy.py#L533 | 16:38 |
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| mgagne | ok, let me triple check again ^^' | 16:39 |
| jpich | haha | 16:40 |
| mgagne | jpich: wth... original code is now working fine... | 16:43 |
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| jpich | mgagne: I'm hm glad it's working? Please undefenestrate yourself? | 16:46 |
| mgagne | jpich: I suspected memcache but it looks to not be involved | 16:46 |
| exploreshaifali | tqtran, hi, patch didn't merge till now | 16:46 |
| exploreshaifali | tqtran, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126141/ | 16:46 |
| asahlin_ | nikunj2512: I am fine with showing the message, just wanted to take a step back. | 16:47 |
| tqtran | exploreshaifali: nice, one more +2 to go! | 16:47 |
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| mfer | tqtran nikunj2512 are you looking to whitelist or blacklist browsers? | 16:48 |
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| mfer | i can see messaging a few old ones but in general it's a bad practice to get into | 16:48 |
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| mfer | modernizr makes it pretty easy | 16:48 |
| exploreshaifali | tqtran, yes but it is same since past 5-6 days | 16:48 |
| mgagne | jpich: sorry to have bothered you :P | 16:49 |
| jpich | mgagne: No worries! Happy to be the rubber duck anytime (I'm thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging but may need a better expression :-)) | 16:50 |
| mgagne | jpich: yha, I know that one, I have 3 ducks from conferences here, they are just laughing at me now | 16:51 |
| jpich | haha | 16:51 |
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| nikunj2512 | asahlin_: Sorry, just now saw Your message.. Ok.. Thank You | 16:57 |
| nikunj2512 | mfer: As i mentioned in the meeting that using modernirn to detect all the broken features will be huge and cucumbersome work and it will create a bigger mess | 16:58 |
| nikunj2512 | mfer: We can show a message for old browsers and if something is left after that than we can use modernizr to detect that feature and notify the user | 16:59 |
| mgagne | jpich: haha, it worked because I forgot to remove policy_rules in tables.py =( | 17:00 |
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| tzumainn | david-lyle, out of curiosity, how many contributors were there in icehouse? | 17:00 |
| jpich | mgagne: Maybe you should call it a day? :-) | 17:00 |
| tqtran | exploreshaifali: it takes time for reviews to get approve, be patient =) | 17:01 |
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| mgagne | jpich: I would like to but that's my task for this week :-/ | 17:01 |
| david-lyle | tzumainn, I think 126 | 17:01 |
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| exploreshaifali | tqtran, ok, Thanks!! :) | 17:01 |
| jpich | mgagne: If you still see this tomorrow feel free to open up a bug with that info, I wouldn't mind poking at it a little too, I am curious | 17:01 |
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| david-lyle | did I say Havana in the meeting ? | 17:01 |
| tzumainn | david-lyle, ah, okay - you mentioned havana and juno, was wondering if there was a deviation in icehouse | 17:01 |
| david-lyle | I keep doing that | 17:01 |
| mgagne | jpich: will debug on my side first | 17:01 |
| david-lyle | what's icehouse again ;) | 17:01 |
| tzumainn | lol | 17:01 |
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| jpich | mgagne: Sounds good, please let me know what you find in the end | 17:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikunj2512: why wouldn't we want to use browser detection (that we'll be adding) to warn people about whether they're susceptible to attacks? | 17:02 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: the version I'm working with :P | 17:02 |
| david-lyle | mgagne, what failure are you seeing | 17:03 |
| david-lyle | reading back, but I don't think I made it far enough | 17:03 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: I think it is not our job to tell this to the users and when distros releases the patch for that attack, it will fixed | 17:03 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: working with policies, trying to override an action and force my own policy rules. not much success here | 17:03 |
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| david-lyle | how are you overriding it? | 17:04 |
| david-lyle | and where? | 17:04 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: But before going too far into future lets implement a simple notification feature which we can extend further later | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikunj2512: it isn't a distro based problem in the slightest and since we're already taking the position of telling users to update their browsers, we should do it for security too otherwise it's a joke | 17:04 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/122768/ | 17:04 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: in an overrides included with customization_module | 17:04 |
| david-lyle | ok, and what's the result | 17:04 |
| david-lyle | ? | 17:04 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: hehe, not what I want? override looks to be ignored | 17:05 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: My primary concern is improving the User Experience for the end user. As i said, first we can implement the warning feature and later we can extend it with other functionalities | 17:05 |
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| david-lyle | mgagne, looking | 17:05 |
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| sigmavirus24 | nikunj2512: mind keeping me looped in on the warning/notification feature? I'll write the patch myself if it'll make you feel better | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | The reality is, if the user's connection is attacked and successfully decrypted, their experience will be worse for having a compromised openstack installation that an attacker could then take advantage of | 17:07 |
| david-lyle | mgagne, you added the neutron policy file to openstack_dashboard/conf ? | 17:07 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: Due to older browsers users are having bad experience and i think we should first rectify that problem. No problem. Please put Your comments here - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/detecting-browser | 17:07 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: yep. editing tables.py directly works fine. non-admin users can't see the button | 17:07 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Thanks for the link nikunj2512 I'll read up and I've already subscribed | 17:08 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: But first lets start with one thing at a time. Please i request You to put Your comments on the blueprint page for everyone to see. | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikunj2512: I'm going to | 17:08 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: Thank You for taking an interest | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | I just think ignoring the se | 17:08 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/122782/ will try to put in openstack_dashboard/conf instead and see what happens | 17:08 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: Bye and ?? | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | *security benefits this could have would be foolish | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | bye nikunj2512 | 17:08 |
| nikunj2512 | sigmavirus24: Ok | 17:09 |
| david-lyle | mgagne, /etc/openstack-dashboard should be fine | 17:09 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: I'm to a point where I will test anything =) | 17:10 |
| nikunj2512 | david-lyle: Just one question, So, do we have to discuss about browser detection feature in next horizon meeting?? | 17:10 |
| nikunj2512 | david-lyle: Or we can do before that also | 17:10 |
| david-lyle | nikunj2512, we can do it outside the meeting | 17:10 |
| david-lyle | the meeting directed focus and created attention, that's it's main goal, the rest can be resolved as part of the blueprint process | 17:11 |
| nikunj2512 | david-lyle: Ok.. I have already submitted it as a blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/detecting-browser, please take a look | 17:11 |
| nikunj2512 | david-lyle: Ok.. Thank You | 17:11 |
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| nikunj2512 | david-lyle: Bye | 17:13 |
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| david-lyle | mgagne, I'm not seeing anything obvious, what does policy_rules look like when the action is called? | 17:18 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: I enabled debug and I don't see any call to o_d.openstack.common.policy on the networks dashboard. I see a bunch in instances though | 17:19 |
| david-lyle | mgagne, do you need to override the __init__ method on the CreateNetwork action to pass in the policy rules? | 17:21 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: looks to be a class attribute like allowed | 17:21 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: well, allowed is a method | 17:22 |
| david-lyle | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/stable/icehouse/horizon/tables/actions.py#L336 | 17:22 |
| david-lyle | which calls https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/stable/icehouse/horizon/tables/actions.py#L87 | 17:22 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: jesus, are you telling that overriding the class attribute (like with allowed) is not enough as the action class is probably already instantiated at that time? if so, why overriding allowed works? allowed is not a static method. | 17:24 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: I'm looking at https://github.com/openstack/horizon/commit/d93722d379c503f16239dbf345b341c679c7210f#diff-241ab3a155bf9729680ae942a9ed26b1 to see if there any required change I missed | 17:25 |
| david-lyle | mgagne, I don't know why override the class variable is not working, just trying to figure out what does work and get to where you actually want to be | 17:25 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: I tried to override verbose_name instead and it's not working so you might be on to something | 17:27 |
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| david-lyle | I think it's getting reinitialized for some reason | 17:30 |
| david-lyle | to None after you set it to your desired value | 17:30 |
| tqtran | oh wow, gerrit stuff shows up here too? | 17:30 |
| david-lyle | anyone notice the check queue os 600+ deep | 17:32 |
| david-lyle | is* | 17:32 |
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| clu_ | tqtran: yeah noticed that recently too :) | 17:36 |
| tqtran | clu_: yeah, thats pretty neat | 17:38 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: I will have to pause this work for now but so far, I tried to override the class of the view and redefined CreationNetwork table action and it worked | 17:38 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/122786/ | 17:39 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: will stick to .allowed = NO for now and come back to it later | 17:39 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: thanks for your help! will try to find an explanation later when I'll be less in a rush | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add support for volume transfers https://review.openstack.org/112741 | 18:44 |
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| ericpeterson | david-lyle: had to step away for a while.... seems like the allowed stuff and policy files is still kind of weird? | 19:11 |
| ericpeterson | or is there now more proof that I am an idiot? | 19:11 |
| ericpeterson | (both could be true, technically) | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Fixing typo https://review.openstack.org/129738 | 19:12 |
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| david-lyle | ericpeterson, worst words when faced with a problem, but it works fine for me on master | 19:29 |
| david-lyle | session overflow issues? | 19:29 |
| ericpeterson | no I found it | 19:30 |
| ericpeterson | the problem for me was answer b I think: I'm an idiot | 19:30 |
| david-lyle | I was trying to be diplomatic :P | 19:31 |
| ericpeterson | POLICY_FILES_PATH not configd correctly | 19:31 |
| david-lyle | that would do it | 19:31 |
| ericpeterson | I just change my irc handle to derp | 19:33 |
| ericpeterson | should | 19:33 |
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| ericpeterson | see, I can't even make fun of myself | 19:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Breadcrumbs for all pages https://review.openstack.org/129985 | 20:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add init methods to javascript https://review.openstack.org/108144 | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add init methods to javascript https://review.openstack.org/108144 | 20:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Single page navigation https://review.openstack.org/114392 | 20:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Single page navigation https://review.openstack.org/114392 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add support for volume transfers https://review.openstack.org/112741 | 20:54 |
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| gary-smith | Is it me, or do the Sahara Hadoop Cluster CI verification jobs complete suspiciously quickly? | 20:59 |
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| gary-smith | Is it supposed to be verifying horizon patchsets? | 21:00 |
| tqtran | i noticed that also | 21:01 |
| tqtran | as soon as i upload a patch, it completes haha | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cindy Lu proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Resource Usage Overview - reduce dropdown menu width https://review.openstack.org/130040 | 21:41 |
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| ericpeterson | lhcheng or david-lyle... any thoughts on this bug? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/django_openstack_auth+branch:master+topic:bug/1357047,n,z | 21:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Make status in instance details screen translatable https://review.openstack.org/130048 | 21:59 |
| lhcheng | ericpeterson, I’ll add some notes on the patch | 22:01 |
| david-lyle | ericpeterson, I have no issues with fixing the bug, nor the use of cookies. I'm not a big fan of the use of a classes static method in its constructor though | 22:01 |
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