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openstackgerrit | Cindy Lu proposed a change to openstack/horizon: fix wrong background color on workflow tabs https://review.openstack.org/130090 | 01:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add floating ip status to table https://review.openstack.org/128185 | 01:25 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Refactor metering dashboard https://review.openstack.org/107011 | 01:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Split large methods into submethods to reduce max-complexity https://review.openstack.org/129689 | 02:34 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Juno Release Notes https://review.openstack.org/128744 | 04:34 |
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teju | i have a javascript function in one of my templates. This worked fine in havana & icehouse, but the page fails to load in Juno dashboard...if I remove the javascript function, the page loads fine....how to fix this? | 05:25 |
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nikunj2512 | teju: In which template You are placing your JS?? | 05:35 |
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teju | nikunj2512 : i have these files in templates dir : index.html _modal_form.html _update.html update.html updatepers.js | 05:37 |
teju | nikunj2512 : i included the updatepers.js in _update.html | 05:37 |
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teju | nikunj2512 : i think the problem is with using context variables in javascript | 05:58 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/130125 | 06:06 |
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nikunj2512 | teju: Sorry for delay | 06:31 |
nikunj2512 | teju: give me a minute | 06:31 |
openstackgerrit | Joanna H. Huang proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Changed Project members list style, added scrolls https://review.openstack.org/67315 | 06:31 |
nikunj2512 | teju: Can you post your code somewhere to see | 06:32 |
nikunj2512 | teju: ?? | 06:32 |
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teju | nikunj2512 : thanks for ur time...i fixed it | 06:32 |
nikunj2512 | teju: Ok.. Sorry again for the delay | 06:33 |
teju | nikunj2512 : np....1 last issue....in icehouse & havana, i see a horizontal scroll in forms....but, i dont get the same in juno | 06:33 |
nikunj2512 | teju: We have diabled horizontal scroll in forms and provided scroll for the windows | 06:34 |
teju | nikunj2512 : how can i enable it? | 06:35 |
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nikunj2512 | teju: Sorry i don't know the specific but i think that you have to make the horizon/static/horizon/js/horizon.modals.jschange in the | 06:38 |
nikunj2512 | teju: Sorry i don't know the specific but i think that you have to make the change in the horizon/static/horizon/js/horizon.modals.js file | 06:38 |
teju | nikunj2512 :ok | 06:40 |
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nikunj2512 | amotoki: Hi | 06:44 |
nikunj2512 | amotoki: i have some questions related to this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1382876 you filed | 06:45 |
amotoki | nikunj2512: hi | 06:45 |
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nikunj2512 | amotoki: i have some questions related to this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1382876 you filed | 06:46 |
amotoki | nikunj2512: what? | 06:46 |
nikunj2512 | amotoki: Sorry, figured out | 06:46 |
nikunj2512 | amotoki: Thank You for your time | 06:46 |
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amotoki | nikunj2512: oh, good to know. | 06:47 |
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udaycode | In horizon workflow, is it possible break the workflow in the middle? I do not see it in the API | 06:49 |
nikunj2512 | udaycode: what do you mean by breaking the workflow in the middle? | 06:50 |
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udaycode | nikunj2512: I have 4 actions in workflow, 4th action is optional, so user can finish the workflow in 3rd action itself if he does not want to go the 4th action. Is it possible? | 06:51 |
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nikunj2512 | udaycode: Yes, for instance take the workflow implemented in the instance panel | 06:52 |
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udaycode | nikun2512: OK, let me look at it. | 06:53 |
nikunj2512 | udaycode: After completing the all the required worklows, user can neglet the unrequired once and proceed further | 06:53 |
nikunj2512 | udaycode: ok | 06:53 |
amotoki | udaycode: I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123123/ (merged) does the similar to what you want. | 06:53 |
amotoki | udaycode: we try to make the change general. I am not sure it can be used with no change, but it helps you. | 06:54 |
nikunj2512 | amotoki: ohh... | 06:54 |
udaycode | amotoki: Thanks, will take a look. | 06:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikunj Aggarwal proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fixes nothing is displayed if volume metadata is empty problem https://review.openstack.org/130140 | 07:04 |
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nikunj2512 | amotoki: In stacks panel, when user adds additional fields in the template and doesn't adds the description key, the Horizon stack creation page doesn't shows the tooltip for them | 07:26 |
nikunj2512 | amotoki: Isn't this is correct behaviour?? | 07:27 |
amotoki | nikunj2512: I don't know .... | 07:27 |
amotoki | nikunj2512: I am not an usual user of heat :-( | 07:27 |
nikunj2512 | amotoki: Ok | 07:28 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Make status in instance details screen translatable https://review.openstack.org/130048 | 07:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Switch Region dropdown https://review.openstack.org/127544 | 08:12 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Disallow Resize Volume If Status Is Shutdown https://review.openstack.org/129459 | 08:27 |
jpich | vokhrimenko: Good morning! I noticed you abandoned the revert, does that mean you found another solution? I haven't had time yet to set up an env with regions unfortunately. Though I've seen at least 2 other patches about switching regions - I'm still pretty confused about what's happening in that area at the moment | 08:33 |
jpich | Hoping I'll have time to poke more at it later in the week, so I at least understand the current problems better | 08:33 |
vokhrimenko | Hi Julie! please see new version https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130157/ :) | 08:34 |
jpich | vokhrimenko: I see! | 08:34 |
jpich | vokhrimenko: Better including a comment and a link when abandoning in this kind of cases, so interested people can follow up :-) | 08:35 |
jpich | vokhrimenko: Do you know if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114401/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119202/ are related to what you're doing or resolving a different part of the problem? | 08:35 |
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vokhrimenko | <jpich> -- thank you for the links | 08:38 |
vokhrimenko | I will review them | 08:39 |
jpich | vokhrimenko: Oh, cool. Thank you for looking into this | 08:39 |
tsufiev | jpich, I've been working with Vlad on this, and it seems to me that Horizon could use a better naming to distinguish between 2 kinds of keystone regions | 08:43 |
tsufiev | jpich, AFAIU, 2 above patches target service_regions (several endpoints inside one Keystone), while vokhrimenko is working on regions = different Keystones | 08:44 |
tsufiev | such homonymity causes some confusion | 08:45 |
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tsufiev | jpich, just thoughts aloud... | 08:45 |
jpich | tsufiev: Thanks for the explanation. I read (too quickly probably) one of lcheng's comments about it and I hadn't really understood the one keystone vs multiple keystone regions | 08:46 |
jpich | tsufiev: Did Horizon choose the name or is that an OpenStack thing? | 08:46 |
jpich | I agree it's cause for confusion... | 08:46 |
openstackgerrit | Nikunj Aggarwal proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fixes nothing is displayed if volume metadata is empty problem https://review.openstack.org/130140 | 08:48 |
tsufiev | jpich, I don't know who chose it, should ask my colleague working with Keystone - maybe he could provide some insight | 08:49 |
jpich | tsufiev: If it comes from elsewhere we probably need to remain consistent till we can convince them to change... In the meantime adding lots of comments like "This is for environments with multiple Keystones" in the code would definitely help :-) | 08:50 |
* tsufiev feels that a 'Keystone liaison' would greatly benefit Horizon :) | 08:50 | |
jpich | tsufiev: You are quite correct. david-lyle / lcheng / ericpeterson have usually been my "point of contacts" for questions so far :-) | 08:51 |
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tsufiev | jpich, oh, I'm relieved that Horizon is fully staffed regarding Keystone :) | 08:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Replace the glyphicons with font awesome icons https://review.openstack.org/119369 | 08:56 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/130125 | 08:58 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Change "System Info" to "System Information" https://review.openstack.org/129954 | 08:58 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Make modal dialogs draggable https://review.openstack.org/129896 | 08:58 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: fix wrong background color on workflow tabs https://review.openstack.org/130090 | 09:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Tatiana Ovchinnikova proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix borders for "Actions" column in Firefox https://review.openstack.org/130170 | 09:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Hide the "Host Aggregates" admin panel if not enabled https://review.openstack.org/121127 | 09:40 |
jpich | Erm. Looks like someone added logging to the channel without necessarily asking the participants, or I'd have expected at least to hear it announced in the weekly meeting if it was discussed some other time... | 09:41 |
openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Remove admin role name 'admin' hardcode https://review.openstack.org/123741 | 09:42 |
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rdopieralski | jpich: good to know, thanks | 09:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/horizon: [Data_processing] auto security group https://review.openstack.org/128263 | 10:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/horizon: [Data_processing] fix job_executions table https://review.openstack.org/125927 | 10:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Remove admin role name 'admin' hardcode https://review.openstack.org/123741 | 10:23 |
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doug-fish | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96800/ could use some other reviewers. I've given a very subjective review; would be good get either some confirmation or other opinions. | 11:48 |
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akrivoka | doug-fish: I really appreciate your in-depth review of that patch. I just wonder if we are not overcomplicating things... The problem this bp is trying to solve is e.g. displaying the value in days rather than a huge number in nanoseconds. Having that in mind, the issue of "1.5 minutes" vs "90 seconds" doesn't seem like a big deal, at least to me. Anyway, any of those two is much better then expressing that in ns. I just fear that if we go do | 12:01 |
akrivoka | wn the road of discussing subjective preferences, we will never get anything done... Hope all this makes sense. :) | 12:01 |
akrivoka | anyway, I have to rebase that patch now that the metering dashboard has been refactored | 12:02 |
doug-fish | akrivoka: I know exactly what you are saying. The code as you've written it is a big improvement. | 12:02 |
tsufiev | jpich, akrivoka, rdopieralski: I know that every core reviewer is pretty busy, but dare to draw your attention to this fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117021/ - it is quite mature IMO and sitting there for a long time. | 12:03 |
doug-fish | akrivoka: yeah I saw that it had to be rebased, I didn't want that to happen again, which is what motived me to ask for more reviews | 12:03 |
doug-fish | akrivoka: if you are okay with the change I suggested, maybe you could just update the code like I've suggested while you rebase! I think its a pretty straightforward change, right? | 12:04 |
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rdopieralski | doug-fish: how about we do that in followup patches? | 12:05 |
doug-fish | rdopieralski: yeah, I could go for that | 12:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Hide the "Host Aggregates" admin panel if not enabled https://review.openstack.org/121127 | 12:26 |
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jpich | doug-fish: I can't reproduce the "missing +" issue on master (I deleted /static/ and re-ran collectstatic to be sure), do you mean the + icon besides "Primary Project" is currently missing otherwise? | 12:30 |
jpich | I posted a screenshot of what the error block looks like for me without the patch, onto the bug report | 12:30 |
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doug-fish | jpich: hmm, your screenshot looks just like the original bug report. When I ran it, The primary project field looked fine except the + was entirely missing w/o the patch. | 12:45 |
doug-fish | Which browser are you using? I have FF ESR 31 | 12:46 |
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doug-fish | either way, the patch fixes the problems | 12:47 |
openstackgerrit | Jiri Tomasek proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Modal fixes - 2 columns, padding, header, membership https://review.openstack.org/113519 | 12:47 |
jpich | doug-fish: I use Firefox 31.0 looks like. Without the patch I see a + like tsufiev posted | 12:48 |
jpich | Weird | 12:48 |
doug-fish | While it concerns me a little we have different behaviors, I'm not sure I want to dig into it too much. The patch fixes all! | 12:50 |
tsufiev | doug-fish, your browser behavior may be caused by stale statics | 12:51 |
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doug-fish | tsufiev: that's a good theory. I restarted the server, but didn't explicitly recollect statics. | 12:52 |
jpich | Without collectstatic I saw two "+" | 12:52 |
jpich | which is yet a different issue but it was definitely a required step :-) | 12:53 |
doug-fish | nice! | 12:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Hide the "Host Aggregates" admin panel if not enabled https://review.openstack.org/121127 | 13:20 |
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jcoufal_ | rdopieralski: IRC server is kicking me off (claims it is full) | 13:52 |
jcoufal_ | rdopieralski: anyway, I am ready, can we jump on hangout? | 13:52 |
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rdopieralski | jcoufal: sure | 13:54 |
rdopieralski | jcoufal: hit me | 13:54 |
jcoufal | rdopieralski: ring ring | 13:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add unit conversion for metering views https://review.openstack.org/96800 | 14:39 |
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sigmavirus24 | Has anyone seen an issue with Juno where lockfile tries to create the lockfile in a directory on /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/? | 15:09 |
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tsufiev | sigmavirus24, looks like a LOCAL_PATH for generating .secret_key_store (with help of lockfile) inside local_settings.py not being set | 15:43 |
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sigmavirus24 | tsufiev: figured it out shortly after asking. we were setting it to /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openstack-dashboard/local or so and that directory didn't have the appropriate permissions | 15:43 |
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tsufiev | sigmavirus24, okay, glad it was so simple :) | 15:45 |
sigmavirus24 | tsufiev: wasn't the simplest to track down but thanks for the help :) | 15:45 |
openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Rewrite table filtering to use GET-requests https://review.openstack.org/128253 | 15:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix inability to switch region via Switch Region dropdown https://review.openstack.org/127544 | 16:43 |
openstackgerrit | Vlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix inability to switch region via Switch Region dropdown https://review.openstack.org/127544 | 16:43 |
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anteaya | david-lyle: are you about? | 17:01 |
david-lyle | anteaya, yes | 17:01 |
anteaya | david-lyle: do you remember way back when we discussed how horizon should address vendor stuff | 17:01 |
david-lyle | yes I do | 17:01 |
anteaya | and I suggested you start a mailing list thread? | 17:01 |
anteaya | and I never saw one? | 17:01 |
david-lyle | did I fail to do that? it's quite possible | 17:02 |
anteaya | well cinder is discussing how to have vendory stuff in horizon | 17:02 |
anteaya | and I am very against having vendory stuff in horizon | 17:02 |
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anteaya | since horizon is having a hard enough time making all the openstack things avaialble | 17:02 |
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anteaya | so since we haven't had the cross-project discussion of how to address this in horizon | 17:03 |
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anteaya | programs aer just assuming it is up to them | 17:03 |
david-lyle | anteaya, indeed, but if the big tent proposal motors on as planned, there's drive to have horizon support just about any and everything | 17:03 |
david-lyle | at least that's my interpretation | 17:03 |
anteaya | how is that going to look for horizon? | 17:04 |
anteaya | fairly useless for me as a user | 17:04 |
david-lyle | I've been working on a plan | 17:04 |
anteaya | do tell | 17:04 |
david-lyle | I think we may have to have a contrib directory where plugins to horizon reside | 17:05 |
david-lyle | those plugin are for things that aren't part of the integrated release | 17:05 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Hide the "Host Aggregates" admin panel if not enabled https://review.openstack.org/121127 | 17:05 |
anteaya | because we just have so much navigation real estate to spare? | 17:05 |
david-lyle | this would help incubated projects meet their graduation requirements | 17:06 |
david-lyle | by default none of these are enabled | 17:06 |
anteaya | well sounds like incubation is going to be a thing of the past as well | 17:06 |
david-lyle | it would be up to the operator to enable the plugin and make sure the dependencies of said plugin are satisfied | 17:06 |
anteaya | so the plugin has to have a horizon component? | 17:07 |
david-lyle | once something becomes integrated, it would move from contrib to horizon proper | 17:07 |
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david-lyle | horizon has a plugin mechanism, which can these up if instructed to do so | 17:07 |
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david-lyle | that still doesn't make me really excited about vendor specific plugins, but I also think it may be short sighted to exclude them entirely | 17:08 |
david-lyle | things this doesn't solve is how to test them in an automated fashion and how an already stretched core reviewer base is going to handle extra load | 17:09 |
anteaya | right | 17:10 |
anteaya | that is also my concern | 17:10 |
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anteaya | having their plugin in horizon is not horizon's concern | 17:10 |
anteaya | give them a hook and say it is up to you | 17:10 |
anteaya | then the plugin has to have a gui compoenent | 17:10 |
anteaya | and have the gui component tested | 17:11 |
anteaya | and you are just saying it can hook in here | 17:11 |
anteaya | otherwise core horizon can't work on horizon issues | 17:11 |
anteaya | talk to neutron if you need any indication of how vendors taking over your life plays out | 17:11 |
david-lyle | I understand | 17:12 |
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anteaya | so yeah, in case you want to involve yourself, cinder is discussing it | 17:12 |
david-lyle | unfortunately that door has already been opened | 17:13 |
anteaya | doors can be closed | 17:13 |
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anteaya | or can be reimagined | 17:13 |
anteaya | you just haev to decide what you want | 17:13 |
anteaya | and stick to it | 17:13 |
anteaya | the moment you let the vendors decide what you are going to do for them | 17:13 |
anteaya | you are lost | 17:13 |
david-lyle | So my concern is presenting a UI for openstack. | 17:14 |
anteaya | that is rather the mission of horizon is it not? | 17:15 |
* anteaya checks horizon's mission statement | 17:15 | |
david-lyle | OpenStack can build on several different underlying technologies, once we try to manage OpenStack, it's difficult to break off certain parts and say, you can't manage that from here | 17:16 |
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anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml#n62 | 17:16 |
david-lyle | it becomes an incomplete solution really quickly | 17:16 |
anteaya | does'nt say squat about vendors | 17:16 |
anteaya | right | 17:16 |
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david-lyle | and only included integrated projects, but that's not where the TC is headed | 17:17 |
anteaya | so you have to decide what you want for horizon | 17:17 |
anteaya | well then you have to cook up a new mission statement | 17:17 |
anteaya | since your mission statement uses the word integrated | 17:17 |
david-lyle | so I can stick my heals in the ground or try to adapt to the prevailing winds of OpenStack | 17:17 |
anteaya | right | 17:17 |
anteaya | well the tc needs to know that should they go free for all, they basically have decided to give up on a usable gui | 17:18 |
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anteaya | and if they want to do that, that is a conscious choice | 17:18 |
anteaya | not a random artifact nobody noticed | 17:18 |
anteaya | you can dig your heals in enough to ensure the tc knows this will be a result | 17:18 |
mgagne | How can someone have multiple horizon installations on the same server with distribution packages (without using containers)? My main concern is with local_settings overriding which location looks hard-coded | 17:18 |
anteaya | and then adapt after you have made your point | 17:19 |
anteaya | david-lyle: but I really do believe you need to say something | 17:19 |
anteaya | and loudly | 17:19 |
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david-lyle | anteaya, the difficult part is I agree that limiting the scope to a very narrow subset is best for OpenStack long term, it just makes my life much more difficult | 17:20 |
david-lyle | but I think there are two issues there | 17:21 |
david-lyle | vendor specific and more services | 17:21 |
david-lyle | just reread, is not best for OpenStack | 17:22 |
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david-lyle | that was confusing as written | 17:22 |
anteaya | well whatever your vision is | 17:23 |
anteaya | don't keep it a secret | 17:23 |
anteaya | decide what it is | 17:23 |
anteaya | and communcate it | 17:23 |
anteaya | since you are in a unique position | 17:23 |
anteaya | keystone is similar | 17:23 |
anteaya | you have to decide what you want here and tell people | 17:23 |
anteaya | I support what you want | 17:24 |
anteaya | I just don't want to see you run over by the vendors | 17:24 |
anteaya | it isn't pretty | 17:24 |
anteaya | and makes your code useless very fast | 17:24 |
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david-lyle | I don't want that either, believe me | 17:24 |
anteaya | good | 17:24 |
anteaya | best defense here is a good offense | 17:24 |
anteaya | decide what yours is | 17:25 |
anteaya | when you know, let me know | 17:25 |
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anteaya | sharpen your elbows and get what you want | 17:25 |
anteaya | otherwise you are just picking up the empty beers cups for everybody else | 17:25 |
anteaya | no fun | 17:25 |
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david-lyle | indeed, no fun | 17:26 |
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anteaya | I'll await your vision, whatever it is | 17:28 |
anteaya | and spend some time with markmcclain | 17:28 |
anteaya | he has lots of experience being run over by vendors | 17:29 |
anteaya | I'm sure he has useful advice on how to avoid it for yourself | 17:29 |
david-lyle | anteaya, I don't want a huge number of vendor specific code, I've continually fought that, what I also don't want is 18 UIs to manage your openstack installation | 17:30 |
david-lyle | maybe part two is a pipe dream | 17:30 |
david-lyle | the idea for plugins is providing a method to use add content to the horizon gui that may not normally be part of it. | 17:31 |
david-lyle | the remaining question is, do we provide a way to centrally organize that or not | 17:32 |
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anteaya | I don't want a huge number of vendor specific code | 17:36 |
anteaya | that right there is a statement that is a false premise | 17:36 |
anteaya | if you are dealing with vendors you are operating with the belief that you can limit the quantity of code from them | 17:37 |
anteaya | you can't | 17:37 |
david-lyle | anteaya, I should clarify, I don't want any integrated vendor specific code | 17:37 |
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anteaya | you either provide them a hook with instructions, this is how you use this, good luck | 17:37 |
anteaya | or you are lost in a sea of their &^%^&*( code | 17:38 |
anteaya | good | 17:38 |
anteaya | stick to that | 17:38 |
anteaya | you can offer them a port | 17:38 |
anteaya | or hook | 17:38 |
anteaya | or doorway, however you want to call it | 17:38 |
david-lyle | we already have the hook | 17:38 |
anteaya | great | 17:38 |
anteaya | then point them at the hook and say we won't integrate any vendor code | 17:38 |
anteaya | done | 17:39 |
sambetts | doesn't this come down to separating out horizon from openstack-dashboard? horizon provides the tools, framework and styling etc. to build the UI, openstack_dashboard can then be more focused on being an interface for the core openstack components minus any vendor stuff, then vendors can build their own UI using horizon and just drop it into the respective folders to make appear? | 17:39 |
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david-lyle | sambetts, that was the plan | 17:39 |
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david-lyle | why this is coming up again, is the whole rethinking of OpenStack's structure | 17:40 |
david-lyle | because in my mind, if you open the door to a bunch of services on stackforge to have a path into horizon, the line becomes fuzzier | 17:40 |
david-lyle | a service is just as likely to be vendor specific as anything else | 17:41 |
anteaya | plus the continual pressure from stackforge projects | 17:41 |
david-lyle | this vendor is using monitoring solution A, that vendor is using monitoring solution B | 17:42 |
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anteaya | the gain nothing from following the rules and everything by convincing people that it's just me, just this once, make an exception to let me in | 17:42 |
david-lyle | that's not really different than support Ceph management of Cisco router management | 17:42 |
david-lyle | so my initial stance is not to include those in horizon | 17:43 |
anteaya | then you make an exception and they want more, because hey, pressuring you worked last time | 17:43 |
anteaya | david-lyle: yay!! | 17:43 |
david-lyle | as the big-tent model rolls along, I'm trying to determine a path of adaptation where I could absorb these changes | 17:43 |
sambetts | then could the same rules apply for those services? UIs for services developed get separatly just as vendor ones would, allowing the person deploying an openstack interface to pick and choose dashboards and panels just like pulling a git repo ? | 17:43 |
anteaya | I support your inital stance | 17:43 |
anteaya | david-lyle: you still have to have a useable product | 17:44 |
anteaya | sambetts: how many dashboards and panels can you sqeeze into one viewport? | 17:44 |
david-lyle | that's my hope, but I think the discussion is valuable | 17:44 |
anteaya | horizon is overly busy as it is | 17:44 |
david-lyle | the navigation grow pretty well now | 17:45 |
anteaya | and 30 minutes of david-lyle's time at pycon last spring didn't net me 1 usable vm | 17:45 |
david-lyle | but yes it is busy | 17:45 |
anteaya | so if anything horizon is suffering from too much information | 17:45 |
david-lyle | anteaya, that's true as well | 17:45 |
anteaya | it doens't need more panels and dashboards, it needs less | 17:46 |
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anteaya | is anyone collecting usability data on horizon? | 17:46 |
david-lyle | OpenStack is not less, we just need to spend our time working on how to make the data consumable and usable | 17:46 |
anteaya | because I would argue right now, today, horizon is not usable | 17:46 |
david-lyle | anteaya, some UX studies have been conducted | 17:47 |
anteaya | david-lyle: right, I agree | 17:47 |
anteaya | david-lyle: any public data? | 17:47 |
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david-lyle | HP published some results and presented at the last summit | 17:47 |
anteaya | what was the tl;dr | 17:47 |
david-lyle | RedHat and Rackspace were involved as well | 17:47 |
anteaya | is horizon usable? | 17:48 |
anteaya | that is my question | 17:48 |
david-lyle | If you don't know what you're doing already, it's very difficult | 17:48 |
anteaya | I'm on the no side right now | 17:48 |
anteaya | right | 17:48 |
anteaya | in my book, that is the definition of unusable | 17:48 |
anteaya | and to be honest I feel that is the problem that should be addressed | 17:48 |
david-lyle | and we are | 17:48 |
anteaya | great | 17:48 |
anteaya | not saying your not, since I'm not in here much | 17:49 |
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david-lyle | the primary use case of launching an instance has been an active area of development for the last cycle | 17:49 |
anteaya | perhaps that needs to be communicated more widely | 17:49 |
david-lyle | well we have to get the results | 17:49 |
david-lyle | stil l WIP | 17:49 |
david-lyle | *still | 17:49 |
anteaya | to fend of the discussions of how do programs get more stuff in horizon | 17:49 |
anteaya | understsood | 17:50 |
sambetts | In my mind something that would aid usablity would be to separte UI from horizon backend allowing the UI/UX/webdev people to do their jobs making it look and feel great and then have the python developers do what they do best? Isn't that what the move to angular will bring? | 17:50 |
anteaya | maybe other programs don't know this is a priority for horizon? | 17:50 |
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david-lyle | sambetts, yes, we've been working on that for a couple of release cycles too | 17:51 |
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david-lyle | we have plans, unfortunately there are several changes we need to finish to get out of this corner we're painted into | 17:51 |
david-lyle | they take time, but we're getting there | 17:52 |
david-lyle | the founders of Horizon abandoned it because they didn't want to take on the work, knowing how long it would take | 17:53 |
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david-lyle | Fortunately, we have a lot of the staging ready. And I think we'll begin to reap the benefits of the work we've been doing | 17:55 |
anteaya | good | 17:55 |
anteaya | :D | 17:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Aaron Sahlin proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fixed display issues on Details Page caused by bootstrap 3 update https://review.openstack.org/115693 | 18:47 |
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adrienverge | Hi all | 19:22 |
adrienverge | Anyone interested in having new Sahara features accessible from Horizon? | 19:22 |
adrienverge | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127451/ | 19:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add unit conversion for metering views https://review.openstack.org/96800 | 19:30 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Update metering unit selection to use smaller units for time https://review.openstack.org/130336 | 19:30 |
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ericpeterson | david-lyle: not sure if we can add gerrit blast-o-grams from the django_openstack_auth repo too??? | 19:31 |
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david-lyle | ericpeterson, good question | 19:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Add support for volume transfers https://review.openstack.org/112741 | 19:46 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: [Sahara] Support Nova availability zones https://review.openstack.org/127451 | 22:33 |
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SlickNik | david-lyle_: You around? Had a question… | 22:42 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: add Column attribute for help tooltip in heading https://review.openstack.org/128804 | 22:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Use cinder API v2, remove support for v1 https://review.openstack.org/130398 | 23:32 |
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