Thursday, 2017-02-09

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ianychoizzxwill, hmm...08:01
ianychoiAre you recently getting more busy?08:01
* jpich off to breakfast08:01
ianychoiThere are many coorinators in your country but I do not know too much how your language coordinators and translators work each other. Hope that I would like to discuss with this thing and something more later if you are currently busy , zzxwill08:03
ianychoiadiantum, and.. hi!08:03
zzxwillYes, being busy as I changed a job.08:03
ianychoiAha I see08:04
ianychoiWhich time would be the best to talk each other?08:04
zzxwillCurrently among all the coordinators, only Daisy and I are active.08:04
adiantumianychoi: hi!08:04
Daisyhi, adiantum08:04
zzxwillTonight, about 22:00, fine with you?08:05
adiantumDaisy: hi!08:05
ianychoizzxwill, unfortunately nope today. How about tomorrow?08:05
zzxwillSure.08:05
ianychoizzxwill, great tomorrow 22:00 may be UTC+8 so 23:00 for me (UTC+9)08:05
ianychoiI am fine :) Thanks a lot08:05
ianychoiadiantum, how is your condition going? Better?08:06
ianychoiDaisy, adiantum is an OpenStack ambassador!08:06
adiantumianychoi: yes, better now.08:06
zzxwillOkay with me.08:06
ianychoiI forgot this news during the last IRC meeting, sorry adiantum08:06
ianychoizzxwill, yep let's talk tomorrow Bye!08:07
adiantumianychoi: no worries, that's not about i18n activities =)08:07
zzxwillOkay, thanks, Bye.08:07
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ianychoiadiantum, maybe more on Russian user group activites are related?08:08
adiantumianychoi: i hope =) and may be eventually help with i18n and other activities =)08:09
ianychoiadiantum, I surely believe that you also contributed a lot for I18n team. I first saw you in Tokyo and met a few more times on Summits08:10
ianychoiBy the way, having one more coordinator and taking some of your reposibilities (e.g., StringFreeze manager what I talked previously) in your team would be a good idea?08:11
adiantumianychoi: i'm already worried about more coordinators, they attented i18n working session in Barcelona08:12
ianychoiChinese team has 4-5 language coordinators and I would like more know how they coordinate each other so I have just appointed with him to talk tomorrow08:13
ianychoihim means zzxwill08:13
adiantumianychoi: currently we have 308:13
ianychoiIn Korea, ujuc - current i18n Korean coordinator encourages me to also be an Korean coordinator, but I say that I am very busy with PTL role and I can help more thing not becoming as Korean i18n coordinator08:14
ianychoiadiantum, aha I did not know that. Do they talk a lot usually in your language community?08:15
adiantumianychoi: currently we trying to share responsibilities...08:18
ianychoiadiantum, I see :) I do not want oversee your i18n translation activities among translators, but feel free to tell me if more things are needed by me.08:20
ianychoiadiantum, also.. do you agree with my panel presentation submission?08:20
ianychoi+ I would to ask you whether you would like to continue current stringfreeze manager role or want to delegate to someone if possible08:21
adiantumianychoi: yes, agree, but i'm still not sure abount ability to attend summit in Boston08:25
adiantumianychoi: i think better to stay in role until release08:26
ianychoiadiantum, for summit attendance that's fine - I just added you without your agreement so I wanted to ask you. It seems that it is too early to finalize summit attendance. Let's arrange participants if our proposal will be finally accepted08:31
ianychoiadiantum, aha... I see. I have asked it because stringfreeze period now is so important08:31
adiantumianychoi: yes, sure08:31
ianychoiadiantum, sorry for not sharing the e-mail drafts.. but.. would you try to write by referring to today IRC meeting conversation: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-02-09-07.00.log.html#l-20 ?08:32
adiantumianychoi: yep.08:33
ianychoiadiantum, thanks a lot for your help. Great appreciated08:33
ianychoiadiantum, and really hope to see again on Boston Summit :)08:34
adiantumianychoi: thank you, i hope too =)08:34
ianychoi:)08:38
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rsimaiianychoi: hello. You're around?11:32
ianychoirsimai, yep11:34
rsimainice11:34
ianychoi:)11:34
rsimaiquick question, as I wanted to correct the de/index.html page ...11:34
rsimaiI'd simply copy over the www/index.html and modify that for my needs. That should have the new design, right? Anything to consider there?11:35
ianychoirsimai, yep u r right!11:36
ianychoiComparing /index.html :)11:36
ianychoiBut... hmm..11:36
rsimaiI could also use the fr/index.html ...11:37
rsimaibut don't see a major difference11:37
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ianychoihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/420102/3/www/fr/index.html11:39
ianychoiThis might be helpful!11:39
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ianychoiFrench page also used old theme so imo the situation is similar11:40
rsimaiI'd simply create that page based on the www/index.html, not do any diffs.11:41
ianychoihmm.. no significant diff result?11:46
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rsimaicontent-wise yes, and the original page uses two columns, French only one. But I don't see a significant difference11:59
rsimaiianychoi: let me submit my proposal (later) and then you can review12:00
ianychoirsimai, aha.. i see yes please. I will happily review then12:05
rsimaiianychoi: I guess I can use utf-8 and don't have to use ascii with entities, right?12:16
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ianychoirsimai, i think so :) current html is based in utf-8 encoding afaik12:51
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ianychoirsimai, did you see http://docs-draft.openstack.org/14/431514/1/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/fbeeed5//publish-docs/www/de/index.html ?14:46
ianychoiIt looks so nice!14:47
ianychoiIMO including both Newton and Mitaka install guides on your language landing page would be also good. What do you think about it?14:48
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jpichianychoi: Thanks for the review of support in tripleo-ui!! Most of our devs are new to i18n so I think it is helpful to show it's helpful to people outside of our direct team too :)15:11
rsimaiianychoi: I could add the Mitaka stuff, sure. But the install-guid is only at 76% and common is only 4%.15:15
rsimaiianychoi: IOW, it's not really helpful :-)15:16
ianychoijpich, it's my great pleasure :) I have accidently seen some bugs which has been tagged with i18n :)15:16
jpich:)15:16
ianychoirsimai, yep I would like to respect your decision. Just one note is that Mitaka will be EOL-ed soon15:17
rsimaiyeah, let'15:17
ianychoiI don't think more translators will investigate on Mitaka15:17
rsimailet's not polish the page without benefit to the users15:17
ianychoiIt means that.. this period would be the last time to include Mitaka manuals.15:18
ianychoiIf you think that it is not a good idea to include de-Mitaka which has not been fully translated, it is fine not to include it.15:18
ianychoiI just want to tell to make sure what you intend not to include Mitaka translated install guides15:19
rsimaithanks, ianychoi15:19
ianychoiSo.. you think current status (only Newton) would be fine and beneficial to German?15:19
rsimaiyes, I do. We anyway need to translate the common doc, it's also not perfect yet15:20
ianychoirsimai, I see15:21
ianychoirsimai, I commented with +1 :) Just one minor note that usually developers write commit message with <50 characters for the 1st line15:22
rsimaiianychoi: you see, I'm not a developer :-)15:23
rsimaiianychoi: seriously, thanks for the note. Actually I know about it and should pay attention15:23
ianychoiHaha I see. This is minor, but most commit messages follows that rule. Yep Docs team will +2 :)15:24
rsimaithank you, Sir15:24
ianychoi, since we are collaborating with docs team15:24
ianychoirsimai, thanks a lot! I am so happy that we are going in a right way for better I18n :)15:25
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