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| SlickNik | clarkb: Gotcha. Thanks! | 00:01 |
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| cody-somerville | Hey. I thought this was a cool blog post that might interest folks here: http://nvie.com/posts/better-package-management/ | 00:04 |
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| clarkb | cody-somerville: neat. pip compile does something very similar to our pypi mirror | 00:06 |
| fungi | anteaya: i keep a rain hat with me so i can see where i'm going. otherwise it's hawaiian shirts, shorts and sandals in that weather | 00:07 |
| clarkb | I love `pip sync` "we haven't actually written this yet" also pip uninstall is derpy | 00:08 |
| fungi | if i were water-soluble i'd have melted away long ago | 00:08 |
| anteaya | fungi: :D | 00:08 |
| clarkb | I wonder if we can replace a lot of the work that pypi mirror does with pip compile though | 00:08 |
| clarkb | also waterproof bag | 00:09 |
| clarkb | I don't buy anything else anymore | 00:09 |
| anteaya | well it is my sandals I am concerned about, and yeah I don't have a waterproof bag | 00:09 |
| anteaya | and a raincoat won't protect either one | 00:09 |
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| anteaya | I'll take a plastic bag to put my laptop in | 00:10 |
| fungi | yeah, my pack is water-shedding, and i have a duck cover for the large pack | 00:10 |
| fungi | in case i need to hike through a waterfall or something ;) | 00:10 |
| anteaya | handy | 00:10 |
| anteaya | my bag protects my stuff from snow? | 00:11 |
| fungi | but i also learned long ago that you subdivide your luggage contents into multiple water-tight bags too | 00:11 |
| clarkb | alchemy goods and black star bags make waterproof bags right here in the pacific NW | 00:11 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I saw some of those | 00:11 |
| anteaya | I wanted one of those | 00:11 |
| anteaya | I didn't get one of those | 00:12 |
| fungi | clarkb: which pip release? i don't see a compile subcommand in 1.5.5 | 00:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: it hasn't been released yet | 00:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: its talked about in the blog cody-somerville linked | 00:12 |
| fungi | oh, cool. i should read more often | 00:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh and its in the pip tools repo | 00:14 |
| clarkb | I thought it was part of pip itself | 00:15 |
| clarkb | in any case pip-compile definitely looks useful | 00:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Allow the neutron functional job to gate merges https://review.openstack.org/93161 | 00:17 |
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| marun | ^ clarkb, jeblair, fungi: comments welcome, I haven't made a job gating before. | 00:20 |
| marun | …and am confused by the jenkins failure :/ | 00:21 |
| marun | er, got it. didn't define the new job | 00:22 |
| anteaya | Job gate-neutron-dsvm-functional not defined | 00:22 |
| anteaya | yeah | 00:22 |
| anteaya | marun: start looking around in here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config | 00:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Allow the neutron functional job to gate merges https://review.openstack.org/93161 | 00:26 |
| marun | anteaya: got it, thanks | 00:26 |
| anteaya | np | 00:26 |
| marun | thankfully I can just copy what swift does. | 00:26 |
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| marun | anteaya: out of curiosity, how do the regular nodes differ from the check nodes? | 00:27 |
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| anteaya | I don't think check nodes are any different from other nodes | 00:29 |
| anteaya | the check pipeline jobs run on them | 00:29 |
| anteaya | oh, and gate has priority over check | 00:29 |
| fungi | marun: right now they don't really differ substantially, but we've used that to shift check jobs to lesser-performing providers when we need the better-performing nodes only for the gate | 00:29 |
| anteaya | maybe that is it | 00:29 |
| anteaya | ah, okay there it is, priority | 00:30 |
| marun | ah, ok. | 00:30 |
| marun | fungi: thanks for the clarification | 00:30 |
| fungi | allows us to keep check jobs off of better-performing nodes which might help clear long gates a little faster | 00:30 |
| fungi | though i suspect we'll clean that up once we have a couple more providers | 00:31 |
| marun | still hp and rackspace? | 00:31 |
| anteaya | do we have any more offers of hosting? | 00:31 |
| anteaya | so far, yes | 00:31 |
| anteaya | though redhat does host tripleo jobs | 00:31 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: around? | 00:31 |
| clarkb | granted we run 30GB 8vcpu nodes in one az in order to get the same performance of 8GB 4vcpu nodes in other az | 00:32 |
| marun | weird. 30gb in terms of memory? | 00:33 |
| clarkb | yes | 00:33 |
| marun | how does that speed things up? caching? | 00:33 |
| clarkb | the memory isn't the issue though. the cpus are. we need twice as many to keep up and those come in a 30gb flavor | 00:33 |
| clarkb | which we hobble to 8gb in order to prevent needing 30gb for some reason | 00:34 |
| cody-somerville | The reason is because one az allows instances to use more cpu time then they're suppose to while the other does not. | 00:34 |
| clarkb | cody-somerville: well | 00:34 |
| marun | ah, ok. no standard for vcpu performance | 00:34 |
| clarkb | cody-somerville: more like one explicitly uses less than the other | 00:34 |
| clarkb | not that any are using more than they are supposed to | 00:34 |
| cody-somerville | If we're talking about HP Cloud, one AZ allows instances allow CPU to burst if there is free cycles whereas the other explicitly limits the instances to what they're rated for. | 00:35 |
| clarkb | right | 00:36 |
| clarkb | the one that allows bursting isn't using more than it should | 00:36 |
| clarkb | they explicitly allow that | 00:36 |
| fungi | i guess it depends on how you define "should" | 00:36 |
| clarkb | fwiw if those cycles are free I think it is great that I can use them :) | 00:37 |
| cody-somerville | If we're going to be specific, it's not that they explicitly allow that in one az, it is really that they explicitly _don't_ allow it in the new az ;) | 00:37 |
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| clarkb | and incredibly frustrating that I can't use free cycles in the other az | 00:37 |
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| cody-somerville | I agree with that. Though it makes sense. HP wanted to be honest about what people were getting and for it to be consistent. | 00:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Zake 0.0.17 released https://review.openstack.org/93156 | 00:45 |
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| zaro | fungi: i've reviewed 93129 | 00:46 |
| zaro | cody-somerville: been trying to work with james but he hasn't been very active in hipchat. | 00:47 |
| fungi | zaro: thanks. i think it's probably safe to approve then. i'll ram it through | 00:49 |
| fungi | since Ajaeger indicated it was blocking docs jobs | 00:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Inject gerrit-doc.properties for gate-{name}-tox-doc-publish-{envlist} https://review.openstack.org/93129 | 00:53 |
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| cody-somerville | zaro: I appreciate that. I'll follow up. | 00:56 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add zeromq config https://review.openstack.org/93030 | 00:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Zake 0.0.18 released https://review.openstack.org/93156 | 01:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Logstash: Modifying rewrite rules to allow kibana 3 https://review.openstack.org/93167 | 03:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Inject gerrit-doc.properties for gate-{name}-tox-doc-publish-{envlist}" https://review.openstack.org/93176 | 06:54 |
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| Ajaeger | Hi, any core still around? | 06:55 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi, zaro, SergeyLukjanov, clarkb, jeblair : 93129 breaks the gate jobs completely, I'm sorry ;( I've reverted it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93176/ could I get an approval, please? | 06:58 |
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| clarkb | Ajaeger: done | 07:06 |
| clarkb | also I'm not actually here. this is an illusion. :) good night | 07:06 |
| Ajaeger | clarkb: Thanks a lot! | 07:08 |
| Ajaeger | good night | 07:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Inject gerrit-doc.properties for gate-{name}-tox-doc-publish-{envlist}" https://review.openstack.org/93176 | 07:09 |
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| sdague | anyone happen to be on or on a plane to push this through - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93123/ ? | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | sdague: I +1'd | 15:19 |
| sdague | thanks | 15:19 |
| anteaya | np | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | reed: how goes upstream university? | 15:32 |
| reed | anteaya, at full speed, pretty awesome, thanks :) | 15:32 |
| reed | we're in the classroom now, I wanted to check if IRC ports were available :) | 15:33 |
| reed | and they are indeed | 15:33 |
| anteaya | reed: yay | 15:34 |
| anteaya | glad it is going well | 15:34 |
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| fungi | sdague: ^ | 16:56 |
| * fungi is leavin' on a jet plane. don't know when he'll be back again | 16:57 | |
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| reed | fungi, yt? | 18:35 |
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| clarkb | reed: I think he is doing that travel thing | 18:45 |
| reed | clarkb, and you're not? :) | 18:46 |
| reed | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/1317957 reappeared | 18:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-org "Server error when updating contacts" [Critical,Confirmed] | 18:46 |
| reed | clarkb, not sure you can help though | 18:46 |
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| clarkb | reed: I don't fly out until tomorrow | 18:46 |
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| clarkb | reed: you need todd | 18:47 |
| clarkb | I don't think fungi can do anything to fix it either | 18:47 |
| clarkb | I am going to reproduce now if I can though | 18:48 |
| reed | yeah, pinged todd and tipit too | 18:48 |
| reed | it is produced regularly here at the upstream training session :( | 18:49 |
| clarkb | yup reproduced | 18:49 |
| clarkb | reed: my suggestion in the future would be to not make major changes the week before the summit that would impact summit participation :) | 18:49 |
| clarkb | but ya I don't think there is much we can do here other than disabling the check | 18:50 |
| reed | clarkb, yeah... there is a big disconnect between infra and .org | 18:50 |
| clarkb | fungi indicated that would require a gerrit restart | 18:50 |
| reed | what? | 18:50 |
| clarkb | reed: we can disable the check when signing CLAs | 18:50 |
| reed | wait, let me understand | 18:50 |
| reed | what would require a gerrit restart? | 18:51 |
| clarkb | disabling the CLA check | 18:51 |
| clarkb | er sorry not the CLA check. The CLA signing check that does the contact info handshake | 18:51 |
| reed | i still don't understand... | 18:52 |
| reed | I thought I did :) | 18:52 |
| reed | wait, I have the tipit folks responding | 18:52 |
| reed | bbl | 18:52 |
| clarkb | the way this works is you fill out a CLA thing with contact info in gerrit. It posts that contact info to a foundation server. If the foundation server returns and HTTP 200 gerrit thinks you are good | 18:52 |
| clarkb | if the foundation server returns anything else gerrit treats the CLA signing as a failure | 18:52 |
| clarkb | it is setup this way to correlate individuals signing the CLA to their foundation membership | 18:53 |
| clarkb | we can disable that | 18:53 |
| clarkb | but doing so requires a gerrit restart | 18:53 |
| clarkb | or you know we could just make the service work again | 18:53 |
| reed | ok, now it's clearer | 18:55 |
| reed | clarkb, do you have a set of IP that make the request from our gerrit to .org? | 18:55 |
| reed | do these IP change a lot? | 18:56 |
| reed | maybe not all of these IPs were whitelisted yesterday? | 18:56 |
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| clarkb | there are two IPs, one ipv4 and one ipv6. They haev changed twice in the last two years | 18:57 |
| clarkb | once almost 2 weeks ago and again in november after the san diego summit | 18:57 |
| reed | so maybe it's not an issue of whitelisting | 19:02 |
| * reed doesn't believe in CDN :) | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | CDN is fine, it should've been communicate to us so we could possibly test things with review-dev and done after the summit | 19:03 |
| clarkb | or far enough ahead of the summit not to cause a panic now | 19:03 |
| * reed adds another line in his personal religion, next to 'wikis are useless, CDN are bad' | 19:03 | |
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| reed | clarkb, which ip is making the calls to openstack.org? | 19:06 |
| clarkb | review.openstack.org | 19:06 |
| reed | no roundrobin ip? always those two? | 19:07 |
| clarkb | yes | 19:07 |
| reed | just triple checking... | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | gerrit doesn't do HA really | 19:07 |
| reed | i'm reading the conversation about the CLA on tc and discussing this issue with tipit | 19:08 |
| reed | surreal | 19:08 |
| reed | :) | 19:08 |
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| reed | clarkb, can you modify hosts file on review.openstack.org? | 19:33 |
| clarkb | reed: I can but really shouldn't | 19:34 |
| reed | JP from tipit tells me that calling the IP address directly, that would bypass cloudflare | 19:34 |
| reed | and eventually make the error disappear | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | reed: yall can propose a change to https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/review.pp#n114 | 19:35 |
| clarkb | it will require a gerrit restart | 19:35 |
| reed | am I right assuming that a) gerrit restart is (at least moderately) painful and b) approval of that patch will take more than 30 minutes? | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | gerrit restart isn't too painful. just pointing out it needs doing and would be nice to not have to do it when I am the only one around | 19:38 |
| clarkb | which ties into b | 19:38 |
| clarkb | would be good to get a second opinion | 19:38 |
| reed | eheheh | 19:38 |
| clarkb | why can't they just make cloudflare not hate review.o.o? | 19:38 |
| clarkb | it seems to have aowrked for a few hours | 19:38 |
| reed | clarkb, I have the impression that cloudflare is not well known at the moment and the experts are in flight | 19:39 |
| mnaser | i know cloudflare quite well, if i can help out in anyway :\ | 19:39 |
| reed | i guess I'll have to live with this for today | 19:40 |
| reed | mnaser, I have no access to that account | 19:40 |
| reed | mnaser, thanks for offering though | 19:40 |
| mnaser | if i may ask, what exactly is running cloudflare? | 19:40 |
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| reed | mnaser, i don't even know for sure... i think it's in front of openstack.org | 19:41 |
| reed | www.openstack.org | 19:41 |
| reed | www.openstack.org is an alias for www.openstack.org.cdn.cloudflare.net. | 19:41 |
| clarkb | reed: you should probably propose the change either wy | 19:42 |
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| mnaser | yeah hosts file update would be the only work around to avoid cloudflare in that case | 19:43 |
| clarkb | then if fungi/jeblair/mordred shows up we can apply it and restart gerrit if that makes everyone happy | 19:43 |
| clarkb | mnaser: reed why is a host file change necessary? | 19:43 |
| clarkb | just talk to whatever cloudflar talks to | 19:43 |
| clarkb | origin.www.openstack.org or whatever it is | 19:44 |
| mnaser | yeah, but that seems to redirect to www.openstack.org to enforce the www. | 19:44 |
| reed | clarkb, if you can create a cname on openstack.org dns that would also probably fix the issue :) | 19:45 |
| clarkb | reed: there should already be a name that cloudflare is using | 19:45 |
| mnaser | direct.openstack.org from what it seems, but cloudflare resolves that and sends the Host header that it's sent | 19:45 |
| mnaser | so accessing directly will still invoke the redirect to www. | 19:45 |
| reed | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/175118471/2014-05-10_14-31-40.png | 19:45 |
| reed | the bug was updated | 19:46 |
| mnaser | or that would be perfect ^ | 19:46 |
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| reed | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 | 19:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-org "Server error when updating contacts" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:46 |
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| mnaser | that should addrres it, also whitelisting the gerrit IP would probably be good | 19:47 |
| mnaser | reed: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200171346-How-do-I-block-blacklist-or-trust-whitelist-an-IP-address-manually- -- if you want to refer that | 19:47 |
| mnaser | because i believe bypass cache will not cache, but it will still block afaik | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | fwiw I can't updte my contact info | 19:48 |
| reed | jonathan just texted me that he switched the DNS back to straight website, no cloudflare | 19:48 |
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| reed | it'll clear in a few minutes | 19:48 |
| mnaser | probably a better idea till this is more tested out | 19:48 |
| mnaser | resolving properly already here again | 19:49 |
| clarkb | same here | 19:49 |
| reed | cool | 19:49 |
| clarkb | now we need gerrit to uncache its dns record | 19:49 |
| mnaser | i'm a cloudflare optimized hosting partner and i've worked with cloudflare a lot in the past, so if there's any help in getting this setup and fixing issues, i don't mind helping | 19:50 |
| reed | thanks mnaser | 19:51 |
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| reed | mnaser, can you add yourself to the bug above? | 19:51 |
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| mnaser | reed: not sure how to do that exactly? I'm more usually assigning bugs to myself | 19:54 |
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| jerryz | clarkb: can i open a bug in project A and submit a patch to project B to fix the bug in project A? i mean will gerrit hook associate the patch with the bug in a different project? | 19:55 |
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| reed | mnaser, what's your launchpad ID? | 19:56 |
| mnaser | https://launchpad.net/~mnaser | 19:56 |
| clarkb | jerryz: I don't think so. It looks up the bug based on project name. You can however assign multiple prohjects to the bug which you should do if one project fixes a bug in another | 19:56 |
| reed | clarkb, aren't bug numbers unique in Launchpad? | 19:57 |
| clarkb | reed: they are but the way the scriptage works is it looks things up by project name | 19:57 |
| clarkb | its possible lp will loosely associate and things will just work anyways | 19:57 |
| reed | mnaser, I added you as a subscriber to bug #1317957 | 19:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-org "Server error when updating contacts" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 | 19:57 |
| clarkb | but really you should track the bug in both projects | 19:57 |
| mnaser | thanks, reed | 19:58 |
| jerryz | clarkb: got it. | 19:58 |
| reed | mnaser, you will most likely get email notifications when that bug is updated | 19:58 |
| clarkb | reed: gerrit apepars to be workign now | 19:59 |
| mnaser | reed: no problem, i'll pitch in when i can :) | 19:59 |
| reed | clarkb, thanks, i'll ask folks to try again here | 19:59 |
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| reed | damnit it's still not working here | 20:15 |
| clarkb | reed: let me check again on my side | 20:15 |
| clarkb | I did get it to succeed once recently | 20:15 |
| clarkb | yup still working | 20:16 |
| reed | clarkb, but are you signing a new agreement? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | no I am just updating my contact info | 20:17 |
| reed | I don't think that does it though | 20:17 |
| clarkb | it does | 20:18 |
| reed | it does? well... signing a new agreement is what's blocked here | 20:18 |
| clarkb | its the same process | 20:18 |
| reed | new signatures are failing | 20:18 |
| clarkb | at least for the communication between gerrit and foundation | 20:18 |
| reed | something changed on the database side then? | 20:18 |
| clarkb | make sure that people doing new signatures are foundation members and using the same primary email id in btoh cases | 20:19 |
| reed | anything on the logs that tells us more than the gerrit error? | 20:19 |
| clarkb | I don't have access to the gerrit server logs right now so I don't know | 20:19 |
| clarkb | also make sure you type in the I AGREE line or whatever it is | 20:20 |
| reed | clarkb, GOAWD! That was it | 20:21 |
| reed | at least they both confessed they're not members of the foundation, yet | 20:21 |
| mnaser | gerrit account id #1004 | 20:24 |
| mnaser | if only i could have been 4 before | 20:24 |
| clarkb | mnaser: gues what 1 and 2 are | 20:26 |
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| clarkb | (you don't really need to guess you can look them up) | 20:26 |
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| mnaser | i've been trying to look up by id | 20:26 |
| mnaser | but i haven't found it yet :p | 20:26 |
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| reed | ok, done, thanks clarkb | 20:27 |
| clarkb | 1 is jeblair and 2 is jenkins | 20:27 |
| mnaser | pretty nice :p | 20:27 |
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| mnaser | how many users approx. in gerrit atm? | 20:27 |
| clarkb | 11k? | 20:28 |
| clarkb | last I looked it was around there | 20:28 |
| clarkb | but its account management isn't so good so a lot of those are duplicates and idle I think | 20:28 |
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| clarkb | are there etherpads for the monday ops sessions? | 21:11 |
| clarkb | there they are | 21:11 |
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| fungi | scrollback | 21:59 |
| fungi | looks like the cdn fixes todd put in place yesterday were insufficient to prevent a recurrence, huh | 22:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya I don't think that was explained | 22:00 |
| clarkb | but DNS was poitned back to the origin not cloudflare and it is working again | 22:01 |
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| fungi | so i saw | 22:01 |
| fungi | good deal | 22:01 |
| fungi | clearly gerrit irritates cloudflare in unfortunate ways | 22:01 |
| fungi | our suspicion yesterday was that gerrit was asked to confirm one user whose address didn't match, that causes the api on the www site to return a 403 forbidden. we *think* that causes cloudflare to decide that the caller should never be allowed to query that ever again and blocks it as a hostile enemy combatant with extreme prejudice | 22:02 |
| clarkb | huh wouldn't a 404 be more approprite | 22:03 |
| fungi | no clue | 22:03 |
| clarkb | "look for this user that doesn't exist" "I didn't find that use" | 22:03 |
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| fungi | todd whitelisted gerrit's ipv4 and ipv6 to bypass the cache completely for posts to that url, or so he thought anyway | 22:04 |
| clarkb | instead of "look for this user that doesn't exist" "access denied forbidden" | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | fungi: if you can set up some time with todd maybe we can point review-dev at www.openstack.org.cdn.cloudflare.net and get it working | 22:10 |
| clarkb | doesn't look like todd is in here any more and I don't have a phone number | 22:11 |
| fungi | clarkb: i will hunt him down at the earliest opportunity | 22:11 |
| clarkb | also doing ^ during summit week may be ugh | 22:11 |
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| fungi | i don't know if the number i have for him is a cell, but i'll definitely see him tomorrow | 22:11 |
| fungi | anyway, popping out to dinner. bbiaw | 22:12 |
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