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| fungi | wow. the project really does just stop breaking things when summit week comes around. somehow i'm always surprised by this | 00:46 |
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| * fungi watches a tumbleweed roll through the gate | 00:47 | |
| clarkb | its nice | 00:48 |
| fungi | ttx and i found a moderately seedy dive bar ("the park bar") a short walk from the conference center. it was entirely acceptable | 00:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: what is the beer situation like? | 00:51 |
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| clarkb | do they know what hops are down there? | 00:51 |
| clarkb | and can you get beer without corn in it? | 00:51 |
| fungi | yes, there are tolerable options | 00:51 |
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| fungi | terrapin is actually not a bad local brewery--i wish more of the establishments here would carry their brews | 00:52 |
| fungi | though i guess they're technically in dhellmann's stomping ground, so not as local as they could be | 00:53 |
| clarkb | that sounds better than hong kong | 00:53 |
| clarkb | I am already a fan | 00:53 |
| fungi | to be honest, i was drinking beer trucked in from colorado, but at least it wasn't mass-market swill | 00:54 |
| Alex_Gaynor | There was a nice restaurant/bar we went to at PyCon, I wondr if it's still there | 00:54 |
| clarkb | fungi: after tsing tao colorado beer sounds great :) | 00:55 |
| fungi | clarkb: i was able to forgive hong kong. the san miguel hk brewery was at least trying, even if most of southeast asia doesn't know what beer is | 00:55 |
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| fungi | Alex_Gaynor: are you in atlanta this week? | 00:56 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fungi: Yeah, I get in on Monday | 00:56 |
| fungi | Alex_Gaynor: okay, i'll find you at some point i'm sure | 00:56 |
| Alex_Gaynor | for sure | 00:57 |
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| clarkb | now I am hungry | 00:59 |
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| fungi | clarkb: when are you in the air? not until tomorrow morning? | 01:00 |
| clarkb | correct. I take off 8am PDT land 4pm EDT | 01:01 |
| clarkb | I get about 4 hours and 50 minutes of pokemon time in the air | 01:01 |
| fungi | that's a surprisingly short flight | 01:02 |
| clarkb | way back is closer to 6 | 01:02 |
| fungi | which pokémon? a classic or one of the current releases? | 01:02 |
| clarkb | current release | 01:02 |
| clarkb | the 3ds is perfect for flying | 01:02 |
| clarkb | really wish I had gotten one sooner | 01:02 |
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| fungi | i just coded on the flight | 01:04 |
| * fungi is teh lame | 01:04 | |
| clarkb | I can never focus long enough to be productive at that | 01:04 |
| clarkb | its cramped and loud and ugh | 01:04 |
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| fungi | i have lots of crappy old python that needs massive py3k targeted cleanup. mindless stuff | 01:05 |
| fungi | like removing u from thousands of string constants | 01:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: thats valid in python >=3.3 | 01:05 |
| fungi | valid+unnecessary | 01:06 |
| fungi | anyway, my flight was only 40 minutes in the air (for a change--this coast is a wasteland as far as technical conferences are concerned) | 01:07 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: you're already in atlanta? | 01:13 |
| fungi | mtreinish: yup | 01:14 |
| mtreinish | cool | 01:14 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: when do you get in (or are you already here)? | 01:16 |
| mtreinish | I'm actually in Chatanooga right now visiting friends from college | 01:16 |
| mtreinish | I'm dfriving in tomorrow morning/afternoon | 01:16 |
| fungi | another place with a great aquarium | 01:16 |
| * fungi hasn't been to chatanooga for a while though | 01:17 | |
| mtreinish | I've never been to the aquarium in Chatanooga, the atlanta one is cool though | 01:17 |
| clarkb | I think I have found a few places worthy of my eating there | 01:18 |
| clarkb | arepa mia in particular but no dinner | 01:18 |
| fungi | agreed, it's pretty good (supposedly the largest in the world?). really like the one in gatlinburg though, surprisingly | 01:18 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah there are some good resturaunts in atlanta | 01:22 |
| mtreinish | we're doing a qa meetup/dinner at Ted's montana grill tomorrow night | 01:22 |
| mtreinish | it's nothing special but it's decent and close to the hotels | 01:22 |
| fungi | ted's is a chain, but it's tolerable | 01:22 |
| fungi | i've not been to the one in atlanta yet, but the one in raleigh is at least not too bad | 01:23 |
| fungi | my aversion to chain/franchise restaurants aside, it seems like a viable option | 01:23 |
| mtreinish | yeah, I like bison and they do that well :) Plus the proximity is really why I suggested it | 01:24 |
| fungi | i have had their bison. hard to pass up consuming former endangered species | 01:25 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I am particularly interested in food items that are hard to get in the NW | 01:25 |
| fungi | clarkb: you probably need to find some pulled pork | 01:25 |
| fungi | or maybe gator, though it's not so popular here in a'lanna | 01:26 |
| mtreinish | yeah pulled pork is a good one to have | 01:26 |
| mtreinish | http://www.fatmattsribshack.com/ some of the best bbq I've had in atl | 01:27 |
| mtreinish | not really convenient from the hotels though | 01:27 |
| fungi | jeblair and possibly mordred/sdague went out to fox's bbq, though similarly not downtown (it's a truism that everything in atlanta is 45 minutes' drive from downtown) | 01:28 |
| fungi | the pork rib sandwich i had at the park bar was surprisingly good | 01:29 |
| mtreinish | fox's is really good too, but I didn't go there that often (not too close to school) | 01:30 |
| clarkb | who has a car? | 01:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: i assume mordred must as he's visiting his folks | 01:30 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I'll have mine | 01:30 |
| fungi | otherwise, taxis (and you usually have to call for them, can't just jump out in the street like manhattan) | 01:31 |
| clarkb | I really considered road tripping it but decided to do HI during the offweek instead of doing al ong drive | 01:31 |
| fungi | marta is good for travel to/from the airport, or if you're a suburban commuter looking for park&ride. it's not like public transit in other cities | 01:32 |
| mtreinish | yeah it's 15 hours for me, but this is the 6th time doing it... (3 round trips) | 01:33 |
| fungi | though it's marginally reminiscent of the dc metro as far as it's effectiveness is concerned | 01:33 |
| mtreinish | fungi: yeah marta doesn't really take you anywhere | 01:33 |
| mtreinish | except the airport | 01:33 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: heh, I decided to be unemployed during the off week :) | 01:34 |
| fungi | mtreinish: good call | 01:35 |
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| fungi | there's no better vacation that unemployed vacation | 01:35 |
| fungi | you get to dispense with that paranoia that work is going to call you in the middle of it ;) | 01:35 |
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| mtreinish | heh, yeah but I didn't really plan ahead though so I ended up being online for part of the time | 01:37 |
| clarkb | I have a hard time comprehending an olympic games there | 01:37 |
| clarkb | of course I have never been | 01:37 |
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| fungi | clarkb: my 11th floor room has a great view of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park | 01:42 |
| clarkb | fungi: you are in the omni? | 01:42 |
| fungi | yeah | 01:43 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I used to live in the apts that were the olympic village | 01:43 |
| fungi | mtreinish: were you attending tech? | 01:43 |
| mtreinish | yeah | 01:44 |
| mtreinish | they really didn't build those to last :) | 01:44 |
| fungi | heh | 01:44 |
| fungi | i should totally find out whether turner does cartoon network studio tours | 01:45 |
| clarkb | cnn does tours >_> | 01:45 |
| fungi | it's, like, the only thing in this town i particularly give a crap about | 01:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: is it rainy? | 01:46 |
| fungi | off an on. it's not seattle if that's what you're asking | 01:47 |
| fungi | s/an/and/ | 01:47 |
| clarkb | right but doesn't it properly rain on that coast? | 01:47 |
| clarkb | seattle rain is great you can be out in it for hours ;) | 01:48 |
| fungi | oh, yeah, rain comes in buckets and then you get sun | 01:48 |
| fungi | and then buckets again | 01:48 |
| fungi | i brought a hat | 01:48 |
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| fungi | there's a couple of benches in one of the side corridors of the cnn building with rick and morty advertising, and one of them has a life-size plastic statue of rick holding up a generic bottle of booze. i totally need to get a selfie with that some time this week | 01:51 |
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| fungi | clarkb: you'll feel right at home when you get here. the ferris wheel they built recently is just as gaudily-lit at the seattle waterfront's big wheel | 01:58 |
| fungi | s/at/as/ | 01:58 |
| clarkb | \o/ | 01:59 |
| clarkb | I haven't ridden the wheel here | 01:59 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: heh, I forgot about that ferris wheel. It's new I've never seen it | 02:00 |
| fungi | yeah, it's unappealing. that yukon goldrush arcade and restaurant, or whatever it is, underneath attracts me more than the big wheel | 02:00 |
| fungi | mtreinish: it looks VERY out of place | 02:00 |
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| clarkb | fungi: the bread and chowder place right there is pretty good too | 02:01 |
| mtreinish | I really like how expensive the tickets are :) | 02:01 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think i ate there. though there was one... emmets? which i rather liked a lot | 02:01 |
| clarkb | that ferris wheel may be the safest place to be on the waterfront in the event of a large earthquake though | 02:01 |
| mtreinish | especially going for the vip ferris wheel rides... | 02:01 |
| clarkb | everything else will liquify and collapse | 02:01 |
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| fungi | clarkb: all of seattle is built on a volcanic lahar anyway. i have no illusions that when "the big one" hits it won't all end up in the harbor | 02:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: actually major chunks of it should be fine | 02:03 |
| fungi | apparently the indigenous people were smarter than to build where the settlers decided to found that city | 02:03 |
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| clarkb | its glacial till | 02:03 |
| clarkb | which isn't too bad | 02:04 |
| clarkb | basically anything that is or was a hill should be ok | 02:04 |
| clarkb | though queen anne apparently ahs some slide prone areas | 02:05 |
| fungi | good point. the lahar is rather clearly bounded on satellite maps, though it would still be particularly devastating if it were to let loose | 02:05 |
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| clarkb | the bits of old hill now in the bay however are a different story :) | 02:06 |
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| james_li | clarkb, fungi : could you please approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92655/1 ? Two other solum developers have +1 on it. | 04:54 |
| clarkb | james_li: I am 99% sure that will be a noop | 04:56 |
| clarkb | james_li: iirc sudo is used in such a way that the env is cleared out in the subprocesses | 04:57 |
| clarkb | but I will double check | 04:57 |
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| clarkb | hrm maybe its just when the gate hook calls tempest and exercises that it was an issue | 04:59 |
| clarkb | james_li: which portion of the test consumes that variable? | 05:00 |
| clarkb | is it the pre_test_hook? | 05:00 |
| clarkb | no its stack.sh | 05:01 |
| clarkb | so ya pretty sure that won't work | 05:01 |
| james_li | yeah. is there a way I can set localrc? | 05:02 |
| james_li | clarkb: ^^ | 05:03 |
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| clarkb | james_li: ya see comment on the change | 05:06 |
| clarkb | james_li: you may need to write the localrc in the pre_test_hook | 05:08 |
| clarkb | as repos need to be put in /opt/new by devstack-gate | 05:08 |
| clarkb | ya you will need to write the file in pre_test_hook | 05:09 |
| james_li | clarkb: do you mean I should export SOLUM_INSTALL_CEDARISH=True in pre_test_hook? | 05:10 |
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| clarkb | no I mean you need to write the seed localrc as explained in my comment in pre_test_hook | 05:11 |
| clarkb | but it didn't occur to me that that aws necessary until after I wrote my comment | 05:11 |
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| james_li | clarkb: ok,so I need to create localrc under /opt/stack/new/devstack and set KEEP_LOCALRC=1 in pre_test_hook? | 05:18 |
| clarkb | close. KEEP_LOCALRC should be set with the other test env vars because it is for devstack-gate | 05:19 |
| clarkb | and devstack-gate needs to know about it before running the pre_test_hook | 05:19 |
| james_li | clarkb: ok. so set KEEP_LOCALRC=1 in solum.yaml (just like we set DEVSTACK_GATE_NEUTRON=1), and in solum pre_test_hook I create a localrc file in which I set/export SOLUM_INSTALL_CEDARISH=True | 05:22 |
| james_li | is that right, clarkb ? | 05:22 |
| clarkb | yup | 05:22 |
| clarkb | thats it | 05:22 |
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| james_li | cool, thanks for the instructions :) | 05:24 |
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| sballe | Has the issue with Gerrit and the foundation DB been fixed? I am still not able to update my contact info | 12:32 |
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| clarkb | morning. and yes if sballe rejoins it should be fixed (I checked yesterday) | 12:48 |
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| ttx | morning morning | 13:06 |
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| anteaya | morning clarkb, morning ttx | 13:20 |
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| fifieldt | morning | 13:20 |
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| ttx | anteaya: o/ | 13:22 |
| anteaya | I didn't know what time i would wake up so I made no morning plans | 13:23 |
| anteaya | I have had breakfast and the next thing on my agenda it the board/tc meeting at 3 | 13:23 |
| anteaya | I'm open to suggestions | 13:23 |
| anteaya | will registration open before 3pm today, does anyone know? | 13:24 |
| anteaya | I should keep reading the cla backgrounder | 13:24 |
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| clarkb | I think its 3-7 for registration | 13:28 |
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| anteaya | cool | 13:43 |
| anteaya | I will try to register afterwards then | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/publications: Made a branch for OpenStack Process Overview https://review.openstack.org/92918 | 13:46 |
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| anteaya | PLATOSCAVE: please check your client | 13:59 |
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| clarkb | anteaya I use weechat smartfilters to ignore all that | 14:00 |
| anteaya | cool, I will look that up | 14:00 |
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| mordred | anteaya: type "alt-=" | 14:04 |
| anteaya | alt-= | 14:05 |
| anteaya | don't think that was what we were going for | 14:05 |
| * anteaya looks around hot wo type alt-= | 14:05 | |
| anteaya | how to type | 14:05 |
| anteaya | alt key it appears | 14:06 |
| ttx | jeblair: around ? | 14:08 |
| zaro | anteaya, clarkb : in ATL yet? | 14:09 |
| clarkb | zaro: not yet. currently at seatac. flight departs soon | 14:09 |
| zaro | i will be registering early. you gonna make it? | 14:10 |
| clarkb | yup | 14:10 |
| clarkb | zaro where are you? | 14:10 |
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| zaro | i'm in ATL, mariott marquis | 14:10 |
| clarkb | oh already | 14:10 |
| zaro | BAD wifi here! | 14:10 |
| anteaya | zaro: yes W midtown, in my room, looks foggy out there | 14:11 |
| zaro | meetup for dinner? | 14:11 |
| anteaya | free wifi in my room is pretty good | 14:11 |
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| zaro | ohh midtown is way better place, nothing around downtown. | 14:11 |
| anteaya | clarkb: fly safely | 14:11 |
| anteaya | downtown was booked already | 14:11 |
| mordred | anteaya: are you saying we should have the conference in your room? | 14:11 |
| anteaya | midtown is nice | 14:11 |
| mordred | anteaya: I believe gothicmindfood is doing midtown W too | 14:11 |
| anteaya | mordred: no, I had to sign a no more than 8 people in my room policy | 14:12 |
| mordred | gah | 14:12 |
| zaro | 20 min walk to world congress from hotel, sux! | 14:12 |
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| anteaya | so as long as the conference is 8 people or less, that would work | 14:12 |
| mordred | anteaya: btw - it's a little nasty out, but the atlanta botanical gardens are really nice and are fairly near you ish | 14:12 |
| anteaya | mordred: cool, gothicmindfood you online? | 14:12 |
| anteaya | mordred: nice, I might mosey down there | 14:12 |
| anteaya | after I finish the cla history, it is lengthy | 14:13 |
| anteaya | but I want to read it | 14:13 |
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| anteaya | zaro: you are welcome to join me for good wifi if you want to hike up here | 14:15 |
| zaro | anteaya: i don't think midtown is walkable otherwise i would. | 14:16 |
| anteaya | I'll probably be here for about another hour or so, then I might check out the gardens | 14:16 |
| zaro | i'm tethering on the phone | 14:16 |
| anteaya | zaro: take the train | 14:16 |
| anteaya | the breeze or whatever it is called | 14:16 |
| zaro | marta i think | 14:16 |
| * anteaya brandishes her breeze card | 14:16 | |
| anteaya | marta breeze, yeah that's it | 14:17 |
| anteaya | get off at the arts center, 10 minute walk | 14:17 |
| zaro | fungi, clarkb, anteaya : any plans to meetup tonight? | 14:17 |
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| anteaya | peachtree exit, one block south, about 5 blocks east | 14:17 |
| anteaya | zaro: was going to go with the flow | 14:17 |
| zaro | anteaya: i'm going to drive to stone mountain today, if you want to join. | 14:17 |
| anteaya | after the board/tc meeting | 14:18 |
| anteaya | zaro: love that sound of that, I need to be back by 3 | 14:18 |
| anteaya | for the meeting | 14:18 |
| anteaya | when were you going to go | 14:18 |
| zaro | now | 14:18 |
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| anteaya | want to come by my hotel and pick me up? | 14:18 |
| zaro | ok. will be there in about 15 min. W in midtown right? | 14:19 |
| anteaya | stone mountain sounds like a shoes, not sandals, kind of venture | 14:19 |
| anteaya | yes | 14:19 |
| anteaya | meet you downstairs | 14:19 |
| zaro | ok. check your /msg | 14:20 |
| anteaya | thanks | 14:20 |
| fungi | stone mtn is not a particularly rough hike, but it's pleasant enough for being near atlanta | 14:21 |
| fungi | also, it's arguably the most appropriately-named mountain in all of georgia | 14:22 |
| anteaya | a pleasant hike sounds good | 14:22 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 14:22 |
| anteaya | I can't wait to see why | 14:22 |
| mordred | fungi: ++ | 14:22 |
| mordred | anteaya: it should be abundantly clear :) | 14:22 |
| fungi | though i'm surprised you wouldn't rather go at night for the fireworks and lynyrd skynyrd laser light show | 14:23 |
| anteaya | is just a lump of rock or covered in stones | 14:23 |
| anteaya | timing | 14:23 |
| anteaya | I'd love to do all the things, hard to fit them in | 14:24 |
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| * fungi was being somewhat facetious | 14:24 | |
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| fungi | mordred: what's seating like in the board room? lsell was making it sound like there wasn't separate seating for a community audience, or i'd have shown up to watch the early session | 14:27 |
| lsell | meow? | 14:27 |
| lsell | i said there were chairs just like hong kong | 14:27 |
| lsell | there are plenty of open seats :) | 14:27 |
| fungi | oh! i misunderstood :/ | 14:27 |
| lsell | come sit by me! | 14:27 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 14:28 |
| * fungi will sneak in soonish | 14:28 | |
| anteaya | never knew how to spell facetious before, thanks fungi | 14:28 |
| anteaya | what room will the joint board/tc meeting be in, I haven't found the room location yet: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-tc/2014-April/000641.html | 14:37 |
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| fungi | anteaya: "Meeting Location: Executive Boardroom, Building A - Georgia World Congress Center" https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/11May2014BoardMeeting | 14:43 |
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| mordred | anteaya: nope, don't listen to him | 14:52 |
| mordred | anteaya: the joint meeting is in B403 | 14:53 |
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| mordred | the board meeting is in the executive boardroom in building A | 14:53 |
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| mordred | (it's next to the starbucks) | 14:53 |
| clarkb | on a plane with half of hp and bluebox | 14:54 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: You got a party plane? | 14:55 |
| clarkb | looks like it | 14:55 |
| greghaynes | Im jealous | 14:55 |
| clarkb | ok afk now for a while see everyone in atlanta | 14:58 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: enjoy | 15:02 |
| anteaya | fungi mordred thanks | 15:02 |
| anteaya | I have enough to know what to start wandering around | 15:02 |
| anteaya | s/what to start/where to start | 15:02 |
| anteaya | going to pop outside the lobby again to look for zaro | 15:03 |
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| fungi | ohh. my bad. thanks mordred! | 15:07 |
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| markmc | fungi, we didn't want that so that it wasn't a "hey! TC folks! join our meeting!" | 15:12 |
| markmc | fungi, it's a joint meeting, not a board meeting with invitees :) | 15:12 |
| mordred | markmc: ++ | 15:13 |
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| markmc | mordred, wondering about it being the first TC meeting which isn't open to the wold | 15:14 |
| markmc | mordred, could we pull off transcribing to IRC ? | 15:14 |
| markmc | mordred, transcribe on #openstack-meeting | 15:14 |
| markmc | mordred, using meetbot, etc. | 15:14 |
| notmyname | markmc: mordred: recording it and then publishing that would probably be simpler and more effective | 15:15 |
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| markmc | notmyname, personally, I find it easier to scan an irc log in 10 minutes than watch 3 hours of video | 15:16 |
| notmyname | markmc: well, yes, but I was thinking of the logistics of transcribing and actually capturing what is communicated. | 15:17 |
| markmc | notmyname, yeah | 15:17 |
| notmyname | since it's an in-person meeting, getting tone of voice is important, I think | 15:17 |
| notmyname | also, IMO, just audio would be fine | 15:17 |
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| mordred | markmc: it _is_ open to the world technically, anyone is welcome to attend - but I do agree that the non-IRC aspect is very strange | 15:22 |
| markmc | mordred, yeah, I mean electronically open | 15:23 |
| mordred | markmc: I'm 100% sure that we should not consider that we can actually make a binding decision purely vocally | 15:23 |
| markmc | mordred, also, we haven't broadcast the "please come along" aspect | 15:23 |
| markmc | mordred, agree, no binding decisions | 15:23 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hey folks | 16:43 |
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| fungi | hey SergeyLukjanov! | 16:47 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | fungi, /me just waked up after the red-eye flight ;) | 16:50 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mordred, hey | 16:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 16:57 |
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| gothicmindfood | hey mordred and anteaya - I am at the midtown W. Arrive this evening. | 17:09 |
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| clarkb | ok I am in hotel will wander to registration shortly | 21:30 |
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| krotscheck | Likewise. I still have to get this dumb UX laptop whipped into shape, so I can’t stay out, but I’ll be headed to registration in the next 15 | 21:44 |
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