davidlenwell | clarkb: ^^ | 00:01 |
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clarkb | davidlenwell: the issue is the origin | 00:01 |
davidlenwell | oh ? | 00:01 |
clarkb | git@github.com is a rw url iirc | 00:01 |
clarkb | and will use ssh | 00:01 |
davidlenwell | that looks exactly like the orgins on my other repos | 00:02 |
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clarkb | davidlenwell: try git remote set-url origin https://git.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-planet or whatever | 00:03 |
clarkb | davidlenwell: well you may have an accoutn in github with ssh keys that work | 00:03 |
davidlenwell | oh .. yes .. | 00:03 |
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davidlenwell | so that gave us a better error message | 00:06 |
davidlenwell | she didn't put her address in the icla | 00:06 |
clarkb | if you go to the contact info link it should've given you you can update that | 00:07 |
davidlenwell | yeah .. she's doing it now .. thanks clarkb | 00:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add tacker project on StackForge https://review.openstack.org/97435 | 00:11 |
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davidlenwell | clarkb: she's getting "Server Error" "Cannot store contact information" | 00:12 |
clarkb | davidlenwell: you have to make sure that the primary email address in gerrit matches your primary email address in your openstack foundation profile | 00:13 |
davidlenwell | yeah .. its the same | 00:14 |
davidlenwell | still not working | 00:14 |
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davidlenwell | she broke it | 00:14 |
* clarkb tests | 00:14 | |
yamahata | Hi, regarding to https://review.openstack.org/97435 for new project, can you please take care of it? I'm getting constantly merge failure at the verification after approval as other new projects had been created. | 00:14 |
clarkb | davidlenwell: works fine for me | 00:14 |
davidlenwell | works for me too | 00:15 |
clarkb | davidlenwell: double check the account at https://www.openstack.org/profile/ matches | 00:15 |
anteaya | jeblair: great thank you | 00:15 |
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yamahata | I've been struggling for merge failure for more than a week | 00:15 |
fungi | davidlenwell: something has to be in the mailing address and phone number fields too... doesn't have to be accurate (i've tested with just a . in each) | 00:15 |
davidlenwell | they were all populated | 00:16 |
davidlenwell | doesn't work with just . either | 00:16 |
clarkb | davidlenwell: plaese double check the profile | 00:16 |
clarkb | 99% of the time that is the issue | 00:16 |
clarkb | either a different email address was used or the profile was missing entirely | 00:16 |
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fungi | yeah, it shouldn't care what's in the mailing address and phone number fields as long as those two have something in them, but the e-mail address does need to match (primary on the foundation profile to preferred in the gerrit settings) | 00:17 |
davidlenwell | thats not it | 00:17 |
davidlenwell | the foundation email matches what is in the contact exactly | 00:17 |
anteaya | yamahata: interesting I'm not sure why the merge is continuing to fail on that approved patch | 00:17 |
fungi | it doesn't check secondary/alternate addresses | 00:17 |
davidlenwell | I tried logging out and back in | 00:17 |
davidlenwell | this time it took longer to get an error | 00:18 |
reed | more problems? | 00:18 |
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reed | is there a trend to the worst for the signup process? | 00:19 |
clarkb | reed: usually the foundation profile is completely missing or with mismatched data | 00:19 |
yamahata | anteaya: because other new projects were get merged before mine somehow. | 00:19 |
anteaya | I think it is volume | 00:19 |
clarkb | reed: apparently because there are some old blogposts/videos out there that gloss over that | 00:19 |
reed | davidlenwell, are you following to the letter the instructions on the wiki or some other docs? | 00:19 |
anteaya | I think the volume of new contributors means more folks have problems | 00:19 |
yamahata | And timezone issue. | 00:19 |
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anteaya | yamahata: yes, you have two failed attempts at merging that patch | 00:20 |
reed | clarkb, that's my fear too, there has to be some bad documentation out there... I hope that's the cause | 00:20 |
anteaya | fungi: do you have a moment to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97435/ | 00:20 |
fungi | anteaya: i already approved it | 00:21 |
anteaya | ah | 00:21 |
* anteaya refreshes | 00:21 | |
fungi | well, re-reapproved it | 00:21 |
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anteaya | yamahata: let us know if you still have a merge problem with the patch | 00:21 |
anteaya | fungi: thanks | 00:21 |
yamahata | anteaya: thanks | 00:21 |
anteaya | and to fungi | 00:22 |
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reed | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-contributecode-openstack/ is not wrong, has a useless step | 00:23 |
fungi | yamahata: yeah, since you were adding to the very end of the jjb projects.yaml and others do the same things (and we handle on average one new project every day or two) it's easy for them to conflict | 00:23 |
reed | and a slideshare presentation from Lorin Hochstein is wrong (old)... | 00:24 |
anteaya | reed: and did you see this? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/ | 00:24 |
anteaya | reed: it is still a work in progress | 00:24 |
reed | but my google results are not showing bad stuff | 00:24 |
anteaya | so help from core reviewers and ptls (project drivers) will be helpful | 00:24 |
reed | anteaya, ah, interesting | 00:24 |
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yamahata | Yes, I've been learning about project management | 00:25 |
anteaya | reed: so still under construction | 00:25 |
anteaya | reed: some parts are completely missing | 00:25 |
jamielennox | hi all, i don't know if you have seen http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-stable-maint/2014-June/002337.html from a few weeks ago - how would i go about making the openstack-doc-gate non-voting in the stable branch only? | 00:25 |
jamielennox | stable/icehouse | 00:25 |
anteaya | reed: but help to fill in the missing parts would be great | 00:25 |
fungi | jamielennox: by making it a different job | 00:25 |
reed | anteaya, we should keep that documentation in one place, remove it from the wiki at some point if it will stay on docs manuals | 00:25 |
anteaya | reed: y'know when you are talking to people | 00:25 |
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anteaya | reed: right that is what we are after | 00:26 |
fungi | jamielennox: voting/non-voting is based on the job name, so you'd need two jobs which do the same thing but with separate names | 00:26 |
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anteaya | replacing wikipages and ci.openstack.org pages (or the ones we can) | 00:26 |
fungi | jamielennox: it can be done fairly easily with a job template so as to avoid too much duplication | 00:26 |
anteaya | reed: so it just went live today | 00:26 |
reed | anteaya, ah! that explains my surprised face :) | 00:26 |
clarkb | arg I was going to test more things on trusty | 00:26 |
clarkb | and then distractions and horizon | 00:26 |
anteaya | reed: do review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/infra-manual,n,z | 00:26 |
reed | need to subscribe to that project | 00:27 |
anteaya | please do | 00:27 |
anteaya | I'd love to have your input on the content | 00:27 |
reed | uhm ... rst | 00:27 |
anteaya | and discuss direction and design with you | 00:27 |
anteaya | what? | 00:27 |
reed | anteaya, nothing, I understand that the docs team is still in flux between rst and docbook | 00:29 |
anteaya | oh | 00:30 |
anteaya | this isn't a docs team effort | 00:30 |
reed | http://opensource.com/business/14/2/how-contribute-openstack says that our code is on github... | 00:30 |
anteaya | this is an infra effort | 00:30 |
reed | not wrong per se but imprecise | 00:30 |
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* fungi finds rst imminently more readable than, say, tex or troff | 00:30 | |
lifeless | fungi: eminently? | 00:30 |
reed | fungi, indeed | 00:30 |
anteaya | reed: I see many an email in your future | 00:30 |
fungi | lifeless: that too! | 00:30 |
fungi | and waaaaay more readable than docbook xml | 00:30 |
anteaya | if they want to contribute to the infra-manual repo and link to that | 00:31 |
anteaya | we welcome that direction | 00:31 |
reed | one less reason to use the wiki! yeah! :) | 00:31 |
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reed | confirming my theory | 00:31 |
jamielennox | fungi: so given that it's a template the same thing will run for stable as for master, how do i distinguish between the two jobs? | 00:32 |
anteaya | what is your theory? | 00:32 |
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anteaya | and thanks for the review, reed | 00:33 |
reed | anteaya, my theory is ... too hard to explain without offending someone :) | 00:33 |
fungi | jamielennox: a lot of people doing similar things have (ab)used a branch designator parameter in the job name and passed "-nv" in that for one of their instantiations | 00:33 |
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anteaya | I leave that at your discretion then | 00:34 |
anteaya | just be aware that I don't know what your theory is | 00:34 |
fungi | jamielennox: i think ironic has some non-voting versions of their tempest integration jobs for example, so they can be voting on ironic but non-voting advisory jobs on other projects | 00:34 |
fungi | jamielennox: you could use a similar pattern | 00:34 |
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jamielennox | fungi: ok, i'll have a look there | 00:35 |
jamielennox | thanks | 00:35 |
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reed | gotta go, tty tomorrow | 00:35 |
anteaya | see ya reed | 00:35 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add tacker project on StackForge https://review.openstack.org/97435 | 00:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Create a .gitignore file https://review.openstack.org/102919 | 00:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Create a .gitignore file https://review.openstack.org/102919 | 00:53 |
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anteaya | yay yamahata it merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97435/ third time lucky | 01:04 |
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anteaya | so this is useful: http://clock.darkhorseanalytics.com/ | 01:07 |
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yamahata | anteaya: thank you so much | 01:08 |
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anteaya | yamahata: I'm just the messenger, fungi gave the green check mark | 01:09 |
anteaya | glad you are on your way | 01:09 |
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anteaya | cindyo: you might want to check your irc client | 01:20 |
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clarkb | sdague: we still seem to be indexing at a reasonable rate when things are working well | 01:22 |
clarkb | sdague: so I think the fluctuations we see are related to iops | 01:23 |
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clarkb | sdague: the workers don't appear to getting way backed up as before | 01:25 |
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clarkb | sdague: its so predictable though. when the logstash job queue grows await on 07 is crazy | 01:43 |
clarkb | when it falls or is level it is fine | 01:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move cinderclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102991 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move glanceclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102992 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move heatclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102993 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move ironicclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102994 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move keystoneclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102995 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move ceilometerclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102996 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move neutronclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102997 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move novaclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102998 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move swiftclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102999 | 02:12 |
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clarkb | I think I missed sahara again | 02:12 |
clarkb | but SergeyLukjanov is on top of that <_< | 02:12 |
clarkb | anyways I think that is it for now | 02:12 |
clarkb | all of those have had py27, pep8 and docs succeed on trusty | 02:12 |
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tchaypo | when stefano gets logs indicating that some fool tried to use proposal bot's code 6 times | 02:17 |
tchaypo | that fool was me | 02:17 |
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tchaypo | sorry. I'm using the right code now. | 02:17 |
clarkb | tchaypo: trying to steal from my bot? | 02:17 |
clarkb | how dare you :P | 02:17 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Un-nest some sections of code https://review.openstack.org/95570 | 02:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add subunit2sql to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/102392 | 03:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add subunit2sql to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/102392 | 03:10 |
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jogo | Alex_Gaynor: I was going to bump the flake8 version tomorrow. I added the paralleization by default to it | 03:31 |
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Alex_Gaynor | jogo: <3 awesome | 03:31 |
jogo | someone else added parallel but off by default | 03:31 |
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jogo | I turned it on by default and added auto detect number of cores. | 03:32 |
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tristanC | fungi: it's a devstack running on 13.10, Saucy Salamander, and the bug is reproducable, remove the .venv, ./run_tests.sh : most tests fails with "ImportError: No module named httplib2" | 03:37 |
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tristanC | sorry for the late answer :) | 03:37 |
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clarkb | tristanC: ya I reproduced on precise and trusty | 03:40 |
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clarkb | tristanC: so I have no idea how it works in the gate right now | 03:40 |
clarkb | tristanC: I think we are going to fix it by adding it as a test requirement | 03:40 |
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tristanC | clarkb: yep, adding httplib2 to test-requirements.txt fixed this issue here | 03:49 |
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clarkb | ya so sdague was going to push that change up. not sure if he did | 03:49 |
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jogo | we still don't allow non-overlapping global requirements changes right? | 03:50 |
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clarkb | correct | 03:52 |
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jogo | clarkb: thanks | 03:57 |
openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Move pep8 to just 1.5.7 https://review.openstack.org/103004 | 03:57 |
openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add flake8 2.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/103005 | 03:57 |
openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Drop flake8 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/103006 | 03:57 |
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jogo | Alex_Gaynor: ^ | 03:58 |
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Alex_Gaynor | jogo: will drop some +2s as soon as the tests run (+/- getting home from the airport :-)) | 03:58 |
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jogo | Alex_Gaynor: thanks, when testing on my laptop, flake8 2.2.0 drops the runtime against nova from 73 to 34 seconds or so | 04:11 |
jogo | which isn't amazing but not bad | 04:11 |
jogo | for a free speedup | 04:12 |
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clarkb | jogo: especially when flake8 is slower than running unitests for some projects | 04:12 |
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clarkb | I will take it | 04:12 |
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jogo | clarkb: ouch | 04:14 |
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clarkb | also logstash is :( | 04:14 |
jogo | do you have en example for me to gasp at? | 04:14 |
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clarkb | jogo: uh I think the clients qualify | 04:15 |
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jogo | neutronclient is close pep8 is 47 and unit are p26 is 1 minute | 04:16 |
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jogo | oh glanceclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102313/ | 04:16 |
jogo | wow | 04:16 |
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jogo | clarkb: that is really sad | 04:17 |
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clarkb | jogo: I have discovered so many things with the trusty switch | 04:17 |
clarkb | horizon tests don't actually work | 04:18 |
clarkb | on precise or trusty | 04:18 |
jogo | did they ever? | 04:18 |
jogo | wow | 04:18 |
clarkb | glance tests spit out tons of errors but apparently thats ok and the tests pass | 04:18 |
jogo | haha | 04:18 |
jogo | wow | 04:18 |
clarkb | flake8 is slower than unittests in some case | 04:18 |
clarkb | what else? | 04:18 |
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jogo | glanceclient with pep8 2.2.0 is 33 seconds locally | 04:18 |
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jogo | and 76 seconds in the older flake8 | 04:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove queries for fixed bugs. https://review.openstack.org/103009 | 04:28 |
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jogo | clarkb: ^ does running fewer queries help our elasticsearch cluster's health? | 04:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Randy Coulman proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for URLTrigger plugin https://review.openstack.org/83524 | 04:32 |
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clarkb | jogo: no | 04:33 |
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clarkb | jogo: I mean it does have an impact | 04:33 |
clarkb | jogo: but not a massive one | 04:33 |
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clarkb | jogo: current issue is health of the volumes | 04:33 |
clarkb | jogo: you can see every up and down appears to correlate reasonaly well with volumes going crazy when I check | 04:34 |
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jogo | ahh that is what I thought | 04:38 |
openstackgerrit | Randy Coulman proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for URLTrigger plugin https://review.openstack.org/83524 | 04:38 |
jogo | does that mean rax's volume servers are funny? | 04:38 |
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clarkb | either that or noisy neighbors | 04:38 |
clarkb | however we only seem to see it on a volume or two | 04:38 |
clarkb | and not all of them | 04:38 |
jogo | interesting | 04:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Randy Coulman proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for URLTrigger plugin https://review.openstack.org/83524 | 05:51 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Update python-neutronclient>=2.3.5,<3 https://review.openstack.org/102944 | 06:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Add spec2bp.py script https://review.openstack.org/101566 | 08:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update python-cinderclient>=1.0.7 https://review.openstack.org/103056 | 08:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Ensure username is set for all tests https://review.openstack.org/99365 | 09:30 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/git-review: Provide nicer user message for missing remote ref https://review.openstack.org/97751 | 09:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Support proposed/* branches in release scripts https://review.openstack.org/102831 | 09:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Support proposed/* branches in release scripts https://review.openstack.org/102831 | 09:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Add basic milestone check feature to ms2version.py https://review.openstack.org/103070 | 10:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Support swift and oslo milestone releases https://review.openstack.org/99892 | 10:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Support proposed/* branches in release scripts https://review.openstack.org/102831 | 10:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Point search requests to search endpoints https://review.openstack.org/102536 | 10:21 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Set the group acl file for python-monascaclient https://review.openstack.org/102907 | 10:26 |
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joa | Hi o/ | 10:37 |
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thimble | hello. we are collecting information to build and support the CI corresponding for the xen tests. Where can I find information about the hardware requirements (storage for log files and so on)? | 10:37 |
joa | Setting up third-party CI (discovering jenkins on the way, might have to discover pupper too ^^'); I'm using Jay Pipes' guide (also, latest stable jenkins) | 10:37 |
joa | Encountering a little issue: Gearman doesn't seem to be running, when testing the connection jenkins-gearman from jenkin's system config | 10:38 |
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dtantsur|afk | g'afternoon Ironic! | 10:42 |
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joa | was infra == ironic ? Oo | 10:42 |
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dtantsur | joa, we need less similar chats >_< | 10:44 |
joa | :D | 10:44 |
joa | knew it. | 10:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Longgeek proposed a change to openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Bump minimum pbr version to 0.6 https://review.openstack.org/103085 | 10:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Longgeek proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Bump minimum pbr version to 0.6 and requ argparse module https://review.openstack.org/103087 | 10:58 |
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joa | anteaya: there ? I sent a mail to request a CI system account to the infra list; but since I'm not subscribed there, my message was waiting for approval. Any news about it ? :) (hope I'm not being too demanding) | 11:37 |
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sdague | SergeyLukjanov: you feel like landing this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101976/ ? | 11:42 |
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sdague | we keep hitting mirror issues, and I'd like to have the debug in there | 11:42 |
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SergeyLukjanov | sdague, morning | 11:42 |
* SergeyLukjanov looking on it | 11:42 | |
sdague | morning :) | 11:42 |
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SergeyLukjanov | sdague, approved | 11:44 |
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sdague | thanks sir! | 11:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move saharaclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/103099 | 11:52 |
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SergeyLukjanov | clarkb, trusty-client for sahara :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103099/1 | 11:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: StoryBoard Teams API and management spec https://review.openstack.org/103106 | 12:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Lukas Bednar proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: multijob: added kill-phase-on option https://review.openstack.org/99903 | 12:09 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: removed job configuration duplication in docs https://review.openstack.org/98197 | 12:11 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move cinderclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102991 | 12:25 |
openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update signature for bug 1331274 https://review.openstack.org/103112 | 12:25 |
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uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331274 in grenade "Logs are not getting created for services in Grenade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331274 | 12:25 |
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kashyap | sdague, Does the above sound sensible? | 12:26 |
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sdague | kashyap: you need to put parens around the OR clause | 12:26 |
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sdague | ( X OR Y ) AND B | 12:27 |
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sdague | for it to eval correctly | 12:27 |
sdague | otherwise, I think it's right | 12:27 |
kashyap | Ah, let me edit that, thank you | 12:27 |
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fungi | yep, and takes precedence, so parens are necessary to override that | 12:28 |
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sdague | clarkb: for when you wake up, I might have found one of the things that is gumming up ES. The timestamped grenade log wasn't backported to icehouse, so we're sending in the grenade log as a single line to logstash. | 12:30 |
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sdague | when we do havana -> icehouse grenade | 12:30 |
sdague | I pushed the backport | 12:30 |
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sdague | hopefully that makes things better | 12:30 |
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yolanda | hi, having some issues in tempest, anyone has seen that? http://paste.openstack.org/show/85063/ | 12:33 |
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mriedem | yolanda: you're missing oslo.config | 12:33 |
mriedem | sudo pip install oslo.config | 12:33 |
yolanda | mriedem, i have it, it looks as a problem with conflicting versions | 12:34 |
mriedem | sdague: nice catch on the grenade logs | 12:34 |
yolanda | in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages, there is a oslo.config.egg-link, points to /opt/stack/new/oslo.config, and it's there | 12:34 |
mriedem | everyone loves a multi-thousand line db entry | 12:34 |
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mriedem | yolanda: what does "pip show oslo.config" show? | 12:35 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move glanceclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102992 | 12:35 |
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sdague | mriedem: yeh, I tripped over it working with kashyap on his query | 12:36 |
yolanda | --- | 12:36 |
yolanda | Name: oslo.config | 12:36 |
yolanda | Version: 1.3.0.3.g2489397 | 12:36 |
yolanda | Location: /opt/stack/new/oslo.config | 12:36 |
yolanda | Requires: six | 12:36 |
sdague | and was like .... wtf is this | 12:36 |
sdague | then hit my head on my desk, as I realized I'd forgotten the backport | 12:36 |
kashyap | :-) /me got distracted by a phone, bbiab and submit that change | 12:36 |
dhellmann | mriedem, yolanda : the egg-link is an indication that the library was installed with "pip install -e". We can't mix editable mode libs in the oslo namespace with regular libs in the same namespace. Make sure you either install all oslo libs with -e or none of them. | 12:36 |
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dhellmann | mriedem, yolanda : devstack is no longer using the -e flag for this reason. | 12:37 |
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yolanda | dhellmann, that results comes from a devstack run | 12:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds a docs-specs repository https://review.openstack.org/103115 | 12:38 |
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yolanda | dhellmann, and pip show oslo.db shows that | 12:38 |
yolanda | --- | 12:38 |
yolanda | Name: oslo.db | 12:38 |
yolanda | Version: 0.2.0 | 12:38 |
yolanda | Location: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages | 12:38 |
yolanda | Requires: alembic, Babel, iso8601, lockfile, oslo.config, SQLAlchemy, sqlalchemy-migrate, stevedore | 12:38 |
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yolanda | so it's mixing 2 types of libs and that fails? | 12:38 |
dhellmann | yolanda: right, something has installed oslo.config "editable" and oslo.db normally and that's causing your problem. The trick is usually to figure out what is installing things in the different modes. :-) | 12:38 |
yolanda | dhellmann, i noticed that if i remove oslo.db from there, keystone-manage can find oslo.config fine | 12:38 |
* dhellmann nods | 12:39 | |
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yolanda | dhellmann, do you know if that has been reported upstream ? trying to check if it's our bug or something generla | 12:39 |
yolanda | i didn't see any failure like that in rechecks | 12:39 |
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dhellmann | we've had this problem before, but we modified devstack to not use -e for oslo libraries to avoid it | 12:39 |
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dhellmann | it is a known issue in setuptools, and they aren't sure how to fix it | 12:40 |
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yolanda | dhellman, i see, our code looks a bit different, we may need some syhnc | 12:43 |
mordred | dhellmann: have I mentioned how frustrating I find that bug? | 12:43 |
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dhellmann | mordred: yes. maybe we can find someone to help the setuptools folks fix it? | 12:44 |
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mordred | hrm. | 12:44 |
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mordred | dhellmann: I think the only thing harder to find at the moment than good openstack engineers are good engineers who understand setuptools | 12:44 |
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dhellmann | I continue to believe that maintaining backwards compatibility with setuptools was not the best path. Rip the bandaid off quickly. | 12:45 |
dhellmann | yeah | 12:45 |
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dhellmann | I don't know any who aren't already working on it. :-) | 12:45 |
fungi | mordred: good engineers who understand setuptools and want to work on it | 12:45 |
dhellmann | yes, good qualifier | 12:45 |
fungi | rarest of the rare | 12:45 |
mordred | dhellmann: yah. not to make other language references... | 12:45 |
mordred | dhellmann: but sort of like making maven a completely new thing that was not related to ant | 12:46 |
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mordred | biggest problem with that in our world is that nobody likes to give up their snowflakes | 12:46 |
dhellmann | yeah | 12:46 |
fungi | sort of like making ant a completely new thing that was not related to make? | 12:46 |
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mordred | so we'd just wind up with another thing | 12:46 |
mordred | fungi: yah | 12:46 |
mordred | setuptools seems to be the only single thing you can actually count on in the python world | 12:47 |
dhellmann | nick's current plan of tackling the packaging side first is probably the most sane | 12:47 |
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dhellmann | when we all move to wheels, we'll have rainbows for breakfast | 12:47 |
* dhellmann needs some breakfast | 12:47 | |
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joa | Any member of the infra team to answer a question about a pending system account request ? :) | 12:48 |
openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update signature for bug 1331274 https://review.openstack.org/103112 | 12:48 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331274 in grenade "Logs are not getting created for services in Grenade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331274 | 12:48 |
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yolanda | modred, jeblair, i saw your review and i think it's accurate. But i was following mordred guidelines, i wanted to check with you both if it will be ok to work in that direction, or first have a working version and do the other change for later, etc | 12:49 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move heatclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102993 | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1334898 https://review.openstack.org/102979 | 13:01 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334898 in openstack-ci "reqs integration job fails with /home/jenkins/mirror_package_list.txt: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334898 | 13:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova create_image race bug 1334345 https://review.openstack.org/103119 | 13:09 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334345 in nova "Unexpected task state: expecting [None] but the actual state is powering-off" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334345 | 13:09 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move ironicclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102994 | 13:17 |
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anteaya | joa: you aren't being too demanding | 13:18 |
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anteaya | joa: please subscribe to the list, conversations that affect third party systems take place on that list | 13:18 |
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anteaya | joa: pleia2 is one of the curators of taht list, when she sees the pending post she will let it through | 13:19 |
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anteaya | thimble: hi there | 13:19 |
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anteaya | thimble: your best first course is to get involved as much as possible in openstack | 13:19 |
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anteaya | thimble: the more you understand how your system artifacts will be consumed by the openstack developers and reviewers, the better your default decisions about your system will be | 13:20 |
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anteaya | thimble: here is a document you can read: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 13:20 |
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anteaya | thimble: here are patches to that document that have resulted from conversations https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:third-party,n,z | 13:21 |
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anteaya | thimble: here is information about the third party meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty | 13:22 |
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anteaya | thimble: please do attend | 13:22 |
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joa | anteaya: alright, I'll subscribe then (I'm a great fearer of the too-many-mails-i-dont-read kind of guy). thanks | 13:27 |
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anteaya | joa: ahhh, that is a fear you must face or address somehow with openstack | 13:28 |
anteaya | you will have more emails than you can look at | 13:29 |
anteaya | I don't know of anyway around it | 13:29 |
anteaya | it is a primary source of communication | 13:29 |
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joa | anteaya: well, made some filters for openstack-dev :p | 13:29 |
anteaya | joa: can you create an separate email list only email address? | 13:29 |
anteaya | good start | 13:30 |
anteaya | gerrit sends email too | 13:30 |
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joa | yup saw that | 13:30 |
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joa | I guess I should wait for my original request to pass through | 13:31 |
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anteaya | to join the infra ml? | 13:32 |
joa | nope, to get the actual account :p | 13:32 |
anteaya | no, won't make any difference to your pending email post | 13:32 |
anteaya | ah | 13:32 |
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joa | well, still struggling with the setup anyways | 13:32 |
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anteaya | yeah, don't send multiple emails about the account | 13:32 |
anteaya | the email will post, I'll look for it | 13:33 |
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joa | ok | 13:33 |
anteaya | joa: yeah, it takes a bit to get the hang of it | 13:33 |
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anteaya | for those interested I have sent an email to cindyo's co-worker to ask her to check her email client | 13:33 |
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anteaya | hopefully cindyo checks her irc client soon | 13:34 |
anteaya | sorry to check her irc client | 13:34 |
anteaya | I had email on the brain | 13:34 |
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joa | seem ot be having network issues :o | 13:35 |
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anteaya | joa: yeah, hopefully she will read the email soon and take a look at it | 13:36 |
anteaya | I'm hoping she becomes more active in channel, I have enjoyed our early interactions | 13:37 |
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joa | she's come recently to openstack ? | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: add network_sanity_check https://review.openstack.org/101976 | 13:46 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move keystoneclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102995 | 13:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Apply defaults to job-templates parameters https://review.openstack.org/100020 | 13:53 |
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mordred | fungi, ttx: forgive me for being AFK for most of the week - is proposed/* supported in the system now? | 13:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Integration tests for templates defaults https://review.openstack.org/103134 | 14:00 |
anteaya | joa: yes, she is new to openstack | 14:00 |
anteaya | joa: and I'm hoping she contributes more and feels welcome | 14:00 |
ttx | mordred: jeblair saud it does not actually require anything to be done | 14:01 |
ttx | mordred: except a few tools updates and ACL changes at the margin | 14:01 |
ttx | mordred: I have a review for you though | 14:01 |
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ttx | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102812/ | 14:02 |
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joa | anteaya: okay :) | 14:03 |
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anteaya | joa: :D | 14:04 |
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hashar | mordred: I really like your reply to ansible/jjb/zuul email. I still can't believe JJB and ansible yaml definitions are so close. | 14:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Longgeek proposed a change to openstack-infra/gear: Update from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/103144 | 14:18 |
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mordred | hashar: right? it's kind of crazy isn't it? | 14:21 |
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hashar | mordred: that is close to ideal. | 14:22 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova create_image race bug 1334345 https://review.openstack.org/103119 | 14:22 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334345 in nova "Unexpected task state: expecting [None] but the actual state is powering-off" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334345 | 14:22 |
mordred | hashar: yah - I was really excited about it when I realized it | 14:22 |
hashar | mordred: mapping builders/publishers/wrappers to tasks might not be trivial though :-] | 14:22 |
mordred | hashar: might not be | 14:22 |
mordred | I don't think we achieve this overnight for sure :) | 14:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Petrello proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Gate pecan against designate. https://review.openstack.org/103146 | 14:23 |
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lifeless | mordred: I've remembered why I needed that 'install local pbr' patch | 14:25 |
lifeless | mordred: something triggers downloads from pypi when one just runs the test suite | 14:26 |
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mordred | lifeless: hrm. interesting | 14:27 |
lifeless | mordred: for now I'm going to ignore | 14:28 |
lifeless | -> office | 14:28 |
mordred | lifeless: yah. we should fix at some point though | 14:28 |
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mordred | lifeless: there is definitely something squirelly going on | 14:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Longgeek proposed a change to openstack-infra/gear: Update from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/103144 | 14:33 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move ceilometerclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102996 | 14:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Added skraynev to heat-core https://review.openstack.org/103152 | 14:38 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move neutronclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102997 | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move novaclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102998 | 14:57 |
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jeblair | hashar: good morning! i've gotten through a lot of my backlog and started reviewing zuul changes! :) | 15:07 |
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hashar | jeblair: awesome! | 15:08 |
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hashar | jeblair: I ported the devstack gate shell script of doom to python. Ie to easily clone multi repositories and fetch the Zuul ref / matching branch if available | 15:08 |
hashar | jeblair: doing so, I added a few tiny methods to Merger / Repo. They might just work | 15:08 |
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jeblair | hashar: yeah, that's next on my list; i'm excited :) | 15:09 |
hashar | the python devstack-gate cloner is a different horse though. It miss a lot of features from your shell script and probably has slightly different behavior | 15:09 |
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hashar | I have added a comment on it that points to an example run on my setup | 15:10 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move swiftclient default test node to trusty. https://review.openstack.org/102999 | 15:12 |
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anteaya | jeblair: can you add this to your list of things to revisit? I replied to your comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102538/ | 15:15 |
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jeblair | anteaya: it makes it hard to review if there are two changes that change the same text in different ways :( | 15:20 |
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anteaya | jeblair: it does, I agree | 15:22 |
anteaya | but given the nature of conversation around each and every patch to the third party file | 15:22 |
anteaya | I shy away from making changes dependent on each other | 15:23 |
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anteaya | the patch right now is non contentious | 15:23 |
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anteaya | but this change is very contentious: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101013/ | 15:24 |
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anteaya | so if I link them as a dependency, neither gets in for a long time | 15:24 |
anteaya | and many third party ci people dismiss information in patches as "not official" | 15:25 |
anteaya | the people who are looking for the "standards" | 15:25 |
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anteaya | so they don't have to learn about openstack | 15:25 |
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anteaya | jeblair: what do you suggest? | 15:26 |
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jeblair | anteaya: just understand that there's a cost to doing that, which is another round of reviews once one of those merges. i do not need any more reviews. | 15:27 |
jeblair | anteaya: i would stack them from least-contentious to most-contentious | 15:27 |
anteaya | I never know which one is going to be contentious when I create the patch | 15:27 |
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anteaya | the name format one was something we had been talking about at a few infra meetings | 15:28 |
anteaya | and so I thought we were all good | 15:28 |
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anteaya | it has blown up in ways I never could predict | 15:28 |
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mordred | jogo, sdague: you guys work on the actual project ... tell me again why we use eventlet? | 15:28 |
anteaya | if i knew it was going to be an issue with certain people I would have made an effort to ensure these people attended the infra meetings from the beginning | 15:28 |
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anteaya | jeblair: I understand you want fewer reviews to do | 15:29 |
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anteaya | I'm actually hoping the infra-manual can have a section on third party ci that has entirely separate files | 15:30 |
sdague | mordred: that predates me | 15:30 |
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anteaya | so changes to one file can moulder for a while while another uncontested change can merge | 15:30 |
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sdague | the general argument for an async framework is that it makes the code easier to understand | 15:30 |
mordred | sdague: I just read the "marconi works in python 3.3" thread - which led me to discover that they don't use eventlet | 15:31 |
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sdague | mordred: what's their model? | 15:31 |
mordred | sdague: I probably disagree with that argument :) | 15:31 |
mordred | sdague: dunno - was just goign to look in to that | 15:31 |
jeblair | mordred: i'm pretty sure i disagree with it :) | 15:31 |
sdague | yeh, I'm not going to defend anything one way or another | 15:31 |
mordred | sdague: :) | 15:32 |
sdague | but changing just moves bugs around | 15:32 |
mordred | sdague: wise man | 15:32 |
mordred | sdague: I'm mostly just whinging | 15:32 |
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flaper87 | we don't ship any wsgi container, we just ship a wsgi app and the deployer chooses whatever they want. (gunicorn, uwsgi, etc) | 15:32 |
flaper87 | (re marconi ^) | 15:32 |
flaper87 | sdague: ^ | 15:32 |
sdague | flaper87: so how do you deploy in devstack? | 15:32 |
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flaper87 | sdague: with wsgiref (which is built-in in python) | 15:32 |
flaper87 | but that's not supposed to be used in production | 15:33 |
mordred | flaper87: you could probably use morganfainberg 's apache/mod_wsgi work then? | 15:33 |
mordred | (in devstack) | 15:33 |
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sdague | flaper87: does that mean you are going to collapse under parallel calls? | 15:33 |
jeblair | anteaya: where is the 'must request via email' change? | 15:33 |
sdague | in the gate | 15:33 |
morganfainberg | oooh mod_wsgi work in devstack I hear! | 15:33 |
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anteaya | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101013/7/doc/source/third_party.rst | 15:34 |
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morganfainberg | flaper87, if you're up for mod_wsgi to begin with please use the work i've been getting shuffled in for keystone | 15:34 |
jeblair | anteaya: oh it is that one | 15:34 |
anteaya | jeblair: I tied it into the name format patch as a way of trying to reduce reviews | 15:34 |
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morganfainberg | flaper87, long term i'm hoping to be able to offer other alternatives as well (gunicorn, uwsgi, etc) | 15:34 |
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mordred | morganfainberg: we all just discovered that marconi neither ships a wsgi container nor uses eventlet | 15:35 |
anteaya | I can remove the must request via email as its own patch if you want, that point doesn't seem to be a problem | 15:35 |
jeblair | anteaya: i think you should move it into 102538 | 15:35 |
anteaya | I can do that | 15:35 |
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mordred | morganfainberg: speaking of other alternatives - if you happen to know or learn how to use uwsgi with apache I'd love to learn things | 15:35 |
morganfainberg | mordred, well, it definitely has something going for it :) No eventlet! | 15:35 |
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morganfainberg | mordred, i've only used uwsgi with nginx | 15:35 |
mordred | morganfainberg: yah. that seems to be the general model | 15:36 |
morganfainberg | mordred, but i'll keep you in the loop once I figure out if apache can do it (without dirty evil hacking/badness) | 15:36 |
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morganfainberg | flaper87, let me know if you need any help. | 15:36 |
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mordred | morganfainberg: I'm trying to move stackalytics into infra - and their current deployment is nginx/uwsgi | 15:37 |
morganfainberg | mordred, hm.. | 15:37 |
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mordred | morganfainberg: but all of our stuff is apache and I'd rather not introduce another web server just for the heck of it | 15:37 |
morganfainberg | mordred, uwsgi is pretty awesome. | 15:37 |
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flaper87 | morganfainberg: I'll take a look and let you know | 15:38 |
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morganfainberg | mordred, a quick google search says mod_uwsgi? | 15:38 |
morganfainberg | mordred, or mod_proxy_uwsgi | 15:38 |
morganfainberg | mordred, http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/Apache.html | 15:38 |
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mordred | morganfainberg: neither of those show up in apt-cache search :( | 15:39 |
morganfainberg | flaper87, the patches are up for review i still i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101611/ | 15:39 |
morganfainberg | mordred, doh! | 15:39 |
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morganfainberg | mordred, libapache2-mod-proxy-uwsgi | 15:39 |
morganfainberg | mordred saucy and later it looks like | 15:40 |
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morganfainberg | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libapache2-mod-proxy-uwsgi | 15:40 |
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morganfainberg | but it is just using it as basically ProxyPass, is that acceptable (not any reason we want direct socket connection?) | 15:41 |
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flaper87 | morganfainberg: seems doable for marconi too. thanks for the heads up | 15:41 |
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morganfainberg | mordred, libapache2-mod-uwsgi should be available for precise | 15:42 |
zaro | morning | 15:42 |
fungi | hrm, openstackgerrit left again | 15:43 |
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fungi | clarkb: we've been consistently using ~3x as many bare-trusty nodes as bare-precise this morning, based on my ad-hoc observations | 15:43 |
morganfainberg | fungi, openstackgerrrit has left the building | 15:43 |
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fungi | restarted it | 15:43 |
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morganfainberg | fungi, is it just netsplits or flood? or unknown | 15:44 |
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fungi | morganfainberg: generally netsplits and irc server restarts... doesn't seem to self-heal well from interruptions | 15:45 |
morganfainberg | ah | 15:45 |
fungi | that brought it back | 15:45 |
* fungi is heading to lunch... bbiaw | 15:45 | |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds a docs-specs repository https://review.openstack.org/103115 | 15:48 |
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pleia2 | good morning | 15:51 |
pleia2 | no more conferences until August o/ | 15:51 |
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mriedem | can someone link me to the nightly periodic job results/logs? | 15:56 |
openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Avoid a stacktrace when no reviews are pending https://review.openstack.org/103178 | 15:56 |
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sdague | mriedem: they are job specific, the qa ones get emailed to the openstack-qa list (which basically only exists for those posts) | 15:57 |
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mriedem | sdague: ok thanks | 15:57 |
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mriedem | looks like bknudson just found that | 15:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds Third Party CI account name format directions https://review.openstack.org/101013 | 15:58 |
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anteaya | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102538/3/doc/source/third_party.rst | 16:00 |
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anteaya | thanks | 16:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Added search interface https://review.openstack.org/99975 | 16:10 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Moved template files into related modules https://review.openstack.org/103181 | 16:10 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Renamed module folders for consistency https://review.openstack.org/103182 | 16:10 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Tag Complete directive has proper focus behavior https://review.openstack.org/103183 | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix gate-trove-functional-dsvm-{datastore} https://review.openstack.org/103172 | 16:27 |
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kashyap | sdague, When you get a moment, if this looks sensible, can you ACK it? -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103112/ I see Grenade time outs now for Cinder scheduler fails & times out | 16:39 |
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kashyap | I checked in #openstack-cinder, and folks there said, they tried to debug a similar timeout issue just a few mins ago but couldn't find enough info from the logs | 16:40 |
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sdague | kashyap: approved, thanks | 16:46 |
kashyap | Thank you, sir. | 16:46 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update signature for bug 1331274 https://review.openstack.org/103112 | 16:49 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331274 in grenade "Logs are not getting created for services in Grenade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331274 | 16:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix gate-trove-functional-dsvm-{datastore} https://review.openstack.org/103172 | 16:50 |
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morganfainberg | sdague, (hate to bug ya) if you have a second to approve this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102340/ it's needed so we can get keystonemiddleware into devstack (since gate can't clone, needs to be done before devstack starts) | 16:57 |
morganfainberg | sdague, and i don't want to do any conversions to middleware w/o this in place | 16:58 |
sdague | morganfainberg: +A | 16:58 |
morganfainberg | sdague, tyvm! :) | 16:59 |
morganfainberg | much appreciated | 16:59 |
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clarkb | morning | 17:00 |
clarkb | fungi: cool | 17:00 |
clarkb | sdague: nice find on the grenade thing | 17:02 |
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clarkb | sdague: the current huge spike in backlog is :( | 17:02 |
clarkb | sdague: but thats the classic volume went crazy under us symptom | 17:03 |
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clarkb | arg I should just go through the pain of swapping in ssd volumes | 17:03 |
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clarkb | fungi: jeblair ^ what do you think about that? I can do it without data loss and without bumping volume quota if I take one ES node out at a time, delete its non ssd volume, add an ssd volume, then restart the service | 17:04 |
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clarkb | it will then recover the indexes from the other nodes, rinse and repeat | 17:04 |
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sdague | clarkb: I think it might also be worth adding a maxlen flag to os-loganalyze, then you could cull those screw ups | 17:06 |
sdague | instead of parsing a 2MB log line | 17:06 |
sdague | which I'm sure grok loves | 17:06 |
clarkb | sdague: ++ | 17:06 |
clarkb | I don't think I can do the ssd swap out until monday (going to drive to portland real soon now and need to catch up on reviews) | 17:07 |
sdague | oh... actually, I don't think we can catch that, now that I think about it | 17:07 |
clarkb | but at this point I think I am resigned to needing to do something like that | 17:07 |
clarkb | sdague: you can truncate maybe? | 17:07 |
clarkb | I can truncate my side too before groking it | 17:07 |
sdague | yeh, but it's not our lines that are the problem | 17:07 |
sdague | it's the multiline part of grok | 17:08 |
sdague | never finding a date | 17:08 |
clarkb | oh right | 17:08 |
sdague | and piling it all into one line | 17:08 |
clarkb | so it just appends over and over | 17:08 |
sdague | yeh | 17:08 |
clarkb | really we just need json logs | 17:09 |
clarkb | and I need to find time to make that happen | 17:09 |
clarkb | should just be an oslo logging sync and config update for most project I hope | 17:09 |
clarkb | then an overhaul of the grok stuff to just stop groking and passthrough stuff that is already grokked | 17:10 |
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sdague | clarkb: isn't that going to make it unreadable for humans though? | 17:10 |
clarkb | sdague: not necessarily. Your os loganalyze can preset the data in a much saner way if the data is meaningful | 17:11 |
clarkb | also I don't really care about humans too much when we are talking terabytes of data | 17:11 |
clarkb | because humans can't comprehend it anyways | 17:11 |
sdague | sure, but people actually download these things as well | 17:11 |
sdague | to look through them | 17:11 |
clarkb | right so you would do the systemd journald thing and pipe through a tool | 17:12 |
clarkb | to eg give me all nova errors | 17:12 |
mordred | ++ | 17:12 |
clarkb | sdague: we spend massive amounts of cpu time trying to comprehend logs that the source could spend no time at all comprehending | 17:12 |
clarkb | if we move the work to the source we get better results and only have to do it once | 17:13 |
sdague | clarkb: sure, though we need to make sure we don't actually make it harder for people to help with gate bugs, because if we do, we're sunk | 17:13 |
clarkb | yup | 17:13 |
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clarkb | thats why it hasn't just happened yet :) | 17:13 |
sdague | clarkb: so what about a flip side, and have os-loganalyze turn this all into json | 17:14 |
clarkb | sdague: the problem is os-loganalyze doesn't have enough context | 17:14 |
clarkb | sdague: I already convert it to json in the tooling | 17:14 |
clarkb | but I still have to parse/grok it | 17:14 |
clarkb | and make more json | 17:14 |
sdague | what's the missing context? | 17:14 |
clarkb | sdague: this is a timestamp, this is a pid, this is a python module, this is an error level, this is the actual message, this is the client of the request, this is the request id, etc | 17:15 |
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clarkb | sdague: there is a ton of info in the "message" that isn't really message and is just key value data | 17:15 |
openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Proper passing of SUDO flag for neutron functional tests https://review.openstack.org/103196 | 17:15 |
sdague | clarkb: sure | 17:15 |
clarkb | sdague: and the source always knows what those key values are | 17:16 |
clarkb | sdague: because the source is passing in an args dict to do string substitution | 17:16 |
sdague | but I was actually heading down the path off pulling that out heuristically anyway | 17:16 |
HenryG | marun: https://review.openstack.org/103196 | 17:16 |
clarkb | sdague: right I am saying that is a misappropriate allocation of cputime | 17:16 |
clarkb | sdague: because the source knows all and should just tell you | 17:16 |
openstackgerrit | João Vale proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow using template variables in "defaults" field. https://review.openstack.org/85336 | 17:16 |
sdague | if it goes through the logger, and doesn't just vomit on the command line when it barfs :) | 17:17 |
clarkb | sdague: ? | 17:17 |
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clarkb | oslo logging supports all of this apparently. So we just need to sync that code and deal with config | 17:17 |
sdague | right | 17:17 |
sdague | except we're not actually using oslo log files | 17:17 |
clarkb | sdague: we are | 17:18 |
sdague | we're redirecting oslo log to the console | 17:18 |
clarkb | thats just a python logging thing | 17:18 |
sdague | and other things that hit the console, also show up | 17:18 |
clarkb | you can write to wherever | 17:18 |
sdague | right | 17:18 |
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sdague | I'm talking about the extra bits | 17:18 |
clarkb | right the extra bits that we throw out today | 17:18 |
clarkb | we can avoid those by using log files | 17:18 |
clarkb | or continue to throw them out | 17:18 |
sdague | no, we don't throw them out | 17:19 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Integration tests for templates defaults https://review.openstack.org/103134 | 17:19 |
sdague | we append them onto the last message | 17:19 |
clarkb | sdague: the screen stuff is thrown out | 17:19 |
clarkb | sdague: is that actual stdout/stderr or part of the message? | 17:19 |
clarkb | I appeneded them because I thought it was part of the message | 17:19 |
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clarkb | python logging will do multiline output like htat | 17:19 |
sdague | what do you parse for n-cpu ? | 17:20 |
sdague | for instance | 17:20 |
clarkb | we remove the screen bits at the beginning | 17:20 |
sdague | but if the thing crashes at the end on the console, you still grab that right? | 17:20 |
clarkb | then anything matching the oslo format is a message. Anything not osloformat or not screen bits is appended | 17:20 |
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clarkb | the problem here is doing that parsing is expensive | 17:21 |
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clarkb | really really really expensive | 17:21 |
reed | i need a new laptop, 4gb ram is not enough these days :( | 17:22 |
sdague | ok, well we're already doing it today in os-loganalyze for html formating, it's just in a gorpy place | 17:22 |
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clarkb | reed: it is not | 17:22 |
clarkb | reed: even 8GB seems like too little whne you open a browser | 17:22 |
clarkb | sdague: right and I think it is wrong to do the parsing there too | 17:23 |
clarkb | sdague: ideally os-loganalyze would be more of os-logpresent | 17:23 |
reed | clarkb, right? the browser ends up sucking most of the juice... I don't know how many times I had to kill firefox this week | 17:23 |
sdague | sure, if we came up with a good way that didn't make this harder for debug, that would be fine | 17:23 |
clarkb | sdague: structured log output | 17:24 |
pelix | antonym: = Antoine Musso? | 17:24 |
clarkb | with tooling to present it | 17:24 |
clarkb | sdague: I really do think we need that. Becuase the best place to solve this problem is always at the source if you want correctness of interpretation | 17:25 |
clarkb | sdague: makes changing "format" much simpler too | 17:25 |
clarkb | because you can just add fields as long as you remain backward compat with existing fields | 17:25 |
sdague | clarkb: sure, it's just not straight forward to retrain folks that their logs can't be read without tools | 17:26 |
clarkb | sdague: if people want that they can have the old logs | 17:26 |
clarkb | sdague: I am not even sure we make this the default | 17:26 |
clarkb | sdague: but given all of our requirements I think this is the best way forward | 17:26 |
clarkb | because it is relatively easy to tell people to use something like journalctl. It is not easy to continue chasing all the logs and trying to parse them with a space heater farm | 17:27 |
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clarkb | in fact, I wonder does journald accept json logs and just do the right thing (tm) in this case? | 17:27 |
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sdague | that assumes you are on a distro that has that | 17:28 |
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clarkb | it does and we aren't but its a clear indication of where things are headed | 17:28 |
sdague | sure | 17:28 |
clarkb | in 2 years everyone will be there | 17:28 |
sdague | yep | 17:28 |
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sdague | ok, so I guess my question is, if I make improvements to os-loganalyze that do more of this the current way, are you uniterested in that? Because it feels like we could get some short term wins there, and structured logs is going to be at least a medium time frame to attack. | 17:30 |
clarkb | https://github.com/systemd/journald-cat maybe not json but at laest key value | 17:31 |
clarkb | sdague: I think it would be interesting for short term. But we need a better long term answer and I think structured logging is that answer | 17:31 |
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sdague | clarkb: that's fine. I'm trying to build a separation layer so it would be pretty easy to adapt | 17:32 |
sdague | we'd just change out the filter | 17:32 |
clarkb | ya | 17:32 |
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clarkb | ok time to drive | 17:33 |
clarkb | jeblair: fungi: please let me know what you think about ssd volume rotation plan | 17:33 |
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fungi | clarkb: what about using pvmove? | 17:33 |
fungi | clarkb: we can free up the volume attached to the unused es01 | 17:34 |
clarkb | ya so es01 can be freed and we can have spinning volume to ssd happen like that | 17:34 |
fungi | clarkb: then add an ssd volume to an es cluster node, pvmove the vg to it, remove the old one, and so on | 17:34 |
clarkb | either way the elasticsearch service will have to be turned off | 17:34 |
clarkb | and I am not sure if its recovery mechanism will make a pvmove beneficial | 17:34 |
clarkb | we can try it | 17:34 |
fungi | pvmove will impact performance but I *think* it can happen hot | 17:35 |
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clarkb | fungi: oh it can happen hot with super duper active writers and readers? | 17:35 |
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clarkb | in that case its worth a shot | 17:35 |
fungi | i think it just gets delayed since it has to lock each block before moving | 17:35 |
clarkb | gotcha | 17:35 |
fungi | so if a block is in use it waits for the kernel to be done with it | 17:35 |
fungi | but manpage. just a sec | 17:36 |
clarkb | and since its block level the mount and everything should continue to be happy | 17:36 |
openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix gate-trove-functional-dsvm-{datastore} https://review.openstack.org/103172 | 17:36 |
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fungi | yeah, the pvmove manpage says nothing about the vg being inactive | 17:37 |
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clarkb | cool in that case I say we give it a shot | 17:37 |
clarkb | I can't babysit that today and really need to catch up on reviews so I think that is what I will focus on near term | 17:38 |
clarkb | but on monday I can give that a god | 17:38 |
clarkb | *go | 17:38 |
fungi | pretty sure i used it to move from smaller to larger cinder volumes on static.o.o when we hit the virtual blockdev limit for rackspace's xen infrastructure | 17:38 |
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clarkb | cool I like this plan | 17:38 |
fungi | took about a week off an on, so i'm fairly positive i didn't have our logserver offline the entire time ;) | 17:38 |
clarkb | yeah I expect this to take a bit of time as well | 17:39 |
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fungi | since you have more than one node, you could probably hit two or three at a time without too much impact to performance | 17:39 |
fungi | and maybe make it go a lot faster that way | 17:39 |
clarkb | maybe. May need to look at shard allocations for the active indexes | 17:39 |
clarkb | as that is where all of the writing will be | 17:39 |
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clarkb | but ya definitely worth a go | 17:40 |
clarkb | ok really need to start driving now | 17:40 |
fungi | get going. see you at the other end | 17:40 |
clarkb | will be afkish depending on service | 17:40 |
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antonym | pelix: nope :) | 17:41 |
fungi | pelix: looks like you want hashar (but during eu daytime hours) | 17:41 |
pelix | antonym: sorry for the poke so | 17:41 |
antonym | no prob | 17:42 |
pelix | fungi: ah, thanks, guess it'll have to wait until Monday so :) | 17:42 |
fungi | pelix: take it as an excuse to start your weekend already ;) | 17:42 |
pelix | :D | 17:44 |
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anteaya | so everyone is aware I am taking next Tuesday off, it is Canada Day | 17:52 |
clarkb | anteaya: have fun | 17:53 |
clarkb | anteaya: the MURICANs will have friday off | 17:53 |
fungi | happy dominion day anteaya! | 17:54 |
pleia2 | hehe | 17:54 |
clarkb | tethering in car. still not sure if great idea or terrible idea | 17:55 |
sdague | can someone promote this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103090/ - it's our top race bug atm | 17:55 |
fungi | clarkb: i do that in the car with a wireless modem. the biggest annoyance is glare on the screen | 17:55 |
pleia2 | clarkb: depends on whether you're driving :D | 17:56 |
clarkb | fungi: for me the problem has been seattle road surfaces making typing hard | 17:56 |
sdague | 113 fails in 24hrs / 114 fails in 14 days | 17:56 |
clarkb | pleia2: I am not driving :) | 17:56 |
anteaya | clarkb: thanks | 17:56 |
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anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 17:56 |
clarkb | sdague: looking | 17:56 |
clarkb | sdague: maybe I can do something useful from car | 17:56 |
anteaya | guess it will be quiet in here next friday then, right? | 17:56 |
pleia2 | anteaya: yeah | 17:56 |
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anteaya | since all I can do is shrug and answer questions, point to launchpad bugs | 17:57 |
pleia2 | June got away from me, I'm not ready for July yet :\ | 17:57 |
clarkb | fungi: sdague: process on that is to enqueue into the gate and then promote? | 17:57 |
anteaya | pleia2: are you conferencing still? | 17:57 |
fungi | clarkb: i'm going to give it one more minute to finish its last job | 17:57 |
clarkb | fungi: ok | 17:57 |
fungi | clarkb: otherwise yes that would have been it (or if it fails out) | 17:57 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Stachowski proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix gate-trove-functional-dsvm-{datastore} https://review.openstack.org/103172 | 17:58 |
anteaya | pleia2: there is at least one post to the infra list that needs your blessing to appear | 17:58 |
anteaya | pleia2: could you bless it? | 17:58 |
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sdague | also, this grenade console logs not starting on hpcloud makes me sad panda. I guess I'm going to figure out how to get rid of screen entirely next week | 17:59 |
fungi | sdague: promoted now | 17:59 |
sdague | fungi: thanks | 17:59 |
clarkb | sdague: :( | 17:59 |
openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix gate-trove-functional-dsvm-{datastore} https://review.openstack.org/103172 | 17:59 |
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sdague | my retry logic apparently didn't make it any better, it just moved the name of the error | 18:00 |
pleia2 | anteaya: I am home now, no more conferences until August, and I let all mail through a few hours ago, so it should all be on list now | 18:00 |
kashyap | sdague, Will we be using 'tmux' instead ;) | 18:01 |
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clarkb | I doubt tmux would help | 18:02 |
clarkb | there is a deeper issue of enocputime | 18:02 |
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sdague | oh, wait a minute | 18:04 |
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sdague | we lost a part of the filter | 18:04 |
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sdague | kashyap: oops, we deleted too much | 18:05 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1331274 to ignore neutron https://review.openstack.org/103207 | 18:07 |
sdague | yeh, question, Related-Bug: isn't posting to lp? | 18:07 |
sdague | is that intentional? | 18:07 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Apply defaults to job-templates parameters https://review.openstack.org/100020 | 18:07 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Integration tests for templates defaults https://review.openstack.org/103134 | 18:07 |
anteaya | pleia2: cool, glad you have a break | 18:07 |
anteaya | I'm looking for an email requesting a ci account | 18:08 |
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fungi | sdague: i'd need to know specifics (like the change number) | 18:11 |
fungi | sdague: related bug does i think normally post a comment on the bug | 18:11 |
anteaya | joa: okay looking at the infra archives, which pleia2 says she just cleared all posts to: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/date.html | 18:12 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103090/ | 18:12 |
clarkb | ianw: 101110 looks good thanks | 18:12 |
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anteaya | joa: I don't see a request for a third party ci system today | 18:12 |
clarkb | fungi: jeblair ^ I think that change is worth considering now | 18:12 |
sdague | fungi: or does it only comment on merge? | 18:12 |
fungi | sdague: the header was added on a later patchset | 18:12 |
fungi | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103090/1..2//COMMIT_MSG | 18:13 |
sdague | fungi: yeh | 18:13 |
fungi | sdague: only works if it's included in ps1 | 18:13 |
sdague | so that can't take on later patchesets? | 18:13 |
sdague | oh, bummer | 18:13 |
sdague | is that fixable? | 18:13 |
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anteaya | clarkb fungi trouble one of you for an easy +A? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102376/ | 18:13 |
sdague | or changable | 18:13 |
sdague | because we get a lot of - please add bug number | 18:13 |
fungi | sdague: it doesn't keep any state, and would need to scrape earlier bug comments or interpret inter-patchset diffs | 18:13 |
fungi | sdague: all doable options, just nobody has coded them yet | 18:14 |
anteaya | pleia2: can you add this to your list, if possible? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101361/ | 18:14 |
sdague | I wonder how aweful it would be to post every time there is a new patch? | 18:14 |
fungi | sdague: so to avoid spamming the bug for every new patchset, it only updates on patchset #1 and merge/abandon | 18:14 |
sdague | yeh | 18:14 |
sdague | realistically that's led to a lot of lost patches | 18:14 |
fungi | sdague: sounds worth prioritizing then | 18:15 |
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pleia2 | anteaya: sure thing, thanks for pointing it out, my queue is massive :) | 18:16 |
anteaya | pleia2: thanks, yeah I hear that | 18:16 |
anteaya | thanks for your reviews so far today | 18:16 |
sdague | clarkb: 103101,1 in gate is the 'don't kill logstash workers on old grenade logs that suck' | 18:16 |
sdague | but it bounced off the nova bug that's promoted | 18:17 |
clarkb | sdague: ok so it should get through in the nearish future | 18:17 |
sdague | yeh | 18:17 |
sdague | I'm keeping one eye on it | 18:17 |
clarkb | anteaya: done | 18:18 |
clarkb | sdague: cool | 18:18 |
clarkb | mordred: I am going to review your ansible stack again now | 18:18 |
clarkb | mordred: but will not approve things because in car with flaky internets and relying on gertty to sync | 18:18 |
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pleia2 | so happy to see so many tests moving to trusty \o/ | 18:22 |
mordred | clarkb: I will approve by hand one at a time when I can babysit | 18:23 |
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clarkb | mordred: perfect | 18:24 |
anteaya | clarkb: thank you | 18:25 |
clarkb | pleia2: please feel free to propose more moves as you are able to test and confirm they work :) | 18:25 |
clarkb | pleia2: I am trying to be extra careful about that after the pbr requirements integration test derp | 18:25 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: will do | 18:26 |
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clarkb | pleia2: oslo were next up and I wanted to be extra careful with them just because dhellman already had to suffer through one issue | 18:26 |
pleia2 | clarkb: oh boy :) | 18:26 |
clarkb | pleia2: but also python34 | 18:27 |
pleia2 | clarkb: ah right, trusty is 34 rather than 33 | 18:27 |
clarkb | pleia2: I think the sane way to go from python33 to python34 is to add a python34 job template separate of 33 using trusty nodes then we can double up projects and remove 33 when they are happy | 18:27 |
pleia2 | +1 | 18:27 |
clarkb | or we can just switch all at once. | 18:27 |
pleia2 | maybe add a test for the first few moves? | 18:28 |
clarkb | ya | 18:28 |
zaro | fungi: would like your feeback on jeblair and lifeless comments https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47937 | 18:28 |
pleia2 | I'm not familiar enough with 33 to 34 to know how much will break | 18:28 |
fungi | i had assumed we'd have a separate python34 template with node:bare-trusty | 18:28 |
clarkb | pleia2: I don't expect anything to berak | 18:28 |
fungi | pleia2: in theory very little should break | 18:28 |
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clarkb | fungi: yup | 18:28 |
dhellmann | thanks, clarkb :-) | 18:28 |
fungi | 3.3->3.4 is way less significant than 3.2->3.3 was | 18:29 |
pleia2 | just came across chuck's proposal for 34 jobs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102847/ | 18:29 |
pleia2 | fungi: good to know | 18:29 |
fungi | dhellmann: we try to break your projects no more than once a week | 18:29 |
dhellmann | fungi: I can live with that :-) | 18:29 |
clarkb | oh perfect people are ahead of me | 18:29 |
clarkb | I like this | 18:29 |
kashyap | sdague, Sorry, just read the scroll, from the ES query? | 18:30 |
pleia2 | (also woo, this means I'm catching up to today-era reviews, before my afternoon-of-meetings) | 18:30 |
sdague | kashyap: yeh | 18:30 |
sdague | the NOT for the neutron fails was important in the old one | 18:30 |
kashyap | Err | 18:31 |
kashyap | sdague, I see you already fixed it -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103207/1/queries/1331274.yaml | 18:31 |
sdague | yeh | 18:31 |
joa | anteaya: I received it today though | 18:32 |
anteaya | joa: you recieved what today? | 18:32 |
kashyap | sdague, Anything else I can do? Probably my ack there wouldn't matter? | 18:33 |
anteaya | it looks to me like we might be headed in the direction of node stuck in delete state | 18:33 |
anteaya | anyone think the graph is showing that? | 18:33 |
anteaya | besides me? | 18:33 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1331274 to ignore neutron https://review.openstack.org/103207 | 18:33 |
fungi | anteaya: no, it just takes multiple tries for some of our providers to react to deletes, and so nodes stick around in a delete state longer the more load we're under | 18:33 |
anteaya | ah okay | 18:34 |
sdague | kashyap: nope, should be good once tha tlands | 18:34 |
anteaya | glad there are more eyes on it than just mine | 18:34 |
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sdague | clarkb: I really wonder if the ES upticks are all these grenade log files | 18:35 |
fungi | anteaya: there are ~40 nodes which have been in a delete state for more than 3 hours and very few of those are >4 hours | 18:35 |
clarkb | sdague: it could be | 18:35 |
clarkb | sdague: though when I check the await is usually high on 07 or 04 | 18:36 |
clarkb | sdague: could be both events happening together | 18:36 |
sdague | yeh | 18:36 |
kashyap | Can I also bother anyone with this, it'd fix some of the failing in my minimal Fedora DevStack setups -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102490/ | 18:36 |
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reed | chmouel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II4rlQY8f8s | 18:37 |
anteaya | fungi: yeah looks like a recent increase | 18:37 |
fungi | kashyap: you may want to ask in #openstack-qa as more devstack-core members hang out in there | 18:37 |
anteaya | fungi: thanks for the update | 18:38 |
kashyap | fungi, Aha, thanks | 18:38 |
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clarkb | jblm traffic, perfect for code review | 18:39 |
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clarkb | mordred: ok full stack reviewed except the last one still has unaddressed comments | 18:40 |
clarkb | mordred: now to look at the current state of dib nodepool | 18:40 |
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clarkb | mordred: I think one of jeblairs comments should be addressed even though he +2'd so I -1'd | 18:47 |
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sdague | gah - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103090/ 2nd time bounced off the gate | 18:59 |
* sdague dislikes when top gate race can't be merged because of other gate races | 19:00 | |
mordred | sdague: I like that myself | 19:01 |
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fungi | sdague: it's back in front again | 19:04 |
reed | is Mirantis OS free as in freedom? | 19:04 |
sdague | fungi: thanks | 19:04 |
fungi | SergeyLukjanov: ^ if you're around, what's the distribution license for mirantis os? | 19:04 |
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fungi | i assume at least components of it (probably most of them) are under a variety of free software licenses since it's probably derivative of something | 19:05 |
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sdague | yeh, it seems like we've got a bunch of test suites running 10% fail rates | 19:06 |
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sdague | so our aggregate pass chance for a patch is about 60% right now for top of gate | 19:06 |
clarkb | sdague: :( | 19:07 |
sdague | this resize one is going to help, but it has to land | 19:07 |
clarkb | mordred: what do you think of the /opt vs /var/lib thing? | 19:07 |
* fungi thinks /opt is fine unless puppetforge really has policies about where things should go. we're not building a linux distro or anything | 19:09 | |
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clarkb | ya I don't think puppetforge cares | 19:09 |
fungi | at the moment most of our vcsrepo objects clone into /opt | 19:09 |
clarkb | mordred: also what do you think about remove the python3 node stuff from the dib patch that adds nodes? | 19:09 |
clarkb | mordred: if we play our cards rgiht we can just trusty | 19:10 |
fungi | so as much as i'm not generally a fan of continuing the existence of /opt, consistency wins for me | 19:10 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Announce openstack repo merges in #openstack-oslo https://review.openstack.org/102376 | 19:10 |
anteaya | dhellmann: ^^ | 19:10 |
anteaya | so do we need a bot restart to pick up that config change? | 19:10 |
fungi | anteaya: it restarts on its own | 19:11 |
anteaya | awesome | 19:11 |
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anteaya | I love the don't do anything option | 19:11 |
fungi | anteaya: if all goes smoothly, you should see it leave and rejoin in a few minutes | 19:11 |
anteaya | it is my favourite | 19:11 |
anteaya | cool | 19:11 |
* anteaya watches | 19:11 | |
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mordred | clarkb: because we still need to test stable branches on precise | 19:13 |
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mordred | clarkb: oh - I guess we don't have any python3 gates for stable branches of anything do we? | 19:13 |
mordred | reed: what's mirantis os? | 19:14 |
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mordred | wait - do you guys mean Mirantis OpenStack? | 19:15 |
reed | mordred, right, that | 19:15 |
fungi | mordred: right, we talked through it at the summit and concluded that stable branches currently have no promise of py3k support, so switching straight to python 3.4 for juno with no deprecation cycle is acceptable | 19:15 |
reed | I see it called Mirantis OS | 19:15 |
anteaya | where? | 19:15 |
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mordred | reed: ok. for what it's worth - OS to me is an acronym for "Operating System" - so I was confused | 19:15 |
anteaya | I thought use of acryonoms like OS for openstack was taboo according to the trademark documentation | 19:15 |
mordred | fungi: awesome | 19:15 |
* annegent_ chuckles | 19:16 | |
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mordred | anteaya: trademarks don't apply in that way here in channel | 19:16 |
dhellmann | anteaya: thanks! | 19:16 |
joa | anteaya: I meant I received my own request to the list this afternoon | 19:16 |
reed | mordred, same here, it may well be Mirantis Operating System, I have no idea :) never tested it myself | 19:16 |
joa | (ci request) | 19:16 |
reed | https://software.mirantis.com/ | 19:16 |
mordred | I believe they call it "Mirantis OpenStack" in all of their marketing material | 19:16 |
mordred | yeah. that's all "Mirantis OpenStack" | 19:17 |
mordred | they can also deploy it on top of Ubuntu or CentOS | 19:17 |
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anteaya | Variations or abbreviations or combinations with any other marks: you may not use variations, foreign language equivalent or abbreviation of the OpenStack Marks for any purpose. | 19:18 |
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anteaya | http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-trademark-policy/ | 19:18 |
fungi | a goggles search for "mirantis os" turns up some old uses on their sites and in blog posts most of which have been swapped out now | 19:18 |
clarkb | mordred no stable python3 | 19:18 |
mordred | anteaya: yeah. unless you have an agreement with the foundation, which they do | 19:18 |
anteaya | mordred: that is why I asked where he was seeing it | 19:18 |
mordred | anteaya: so "Mirantis OpenStack" is fine | 19:18 |
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reed | mordred, you're correct, I relied on someone else's reference | 19:18 |
clarkb | mordred and my connection sucks now :( | 19:18 |
anteaya | but Mirantis OS? | 19:18 |
fungi | clarkb: gertty! | 19:18 |
anteaya | that is an abbreviation | 19:19 |
clarkb | but I think I got reviews up for your two big stacks | 19:19 |
clarkb | fungi ya but its not conducive to live discussion | 19:19 |
anteaya | joa: can you find your request in the infra archives, because I can't: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/date.html | 19:19 |
anteaya | joa: can you link the url to the post taht is yours | 19:19 |
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anteaya | there goes openstackgerrit | 19:21 |
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clarkb | and I need to look out a window | 19:22 |
anteaya | dhellmann: you should have the change picked up now | 19:22 |
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anteaya | dhellmann: let me know if you don't see merges | 19:22 |
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dhellmann | anteaya: I'll keep an eye out | 19:23 |
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joa | anteaya: i'll try | 19:24 |
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anteaya | dhellmann: great | 19:24 |
fungi | anteaya: joa is referring to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/001460.html | 19:24 |
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clarkb | zaro the new change screen is still pretty bad. it fails at giving me info I need in a concise manner | 19:24 |
anteaya | ah that was sent wednesday | 19:25 |
joa | anteaya: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/001460.html | 19:25 |
anteaya | thanks fungi | 19:25 |
joa | oh already linked :p | 19:25 |
anteaya | joa: great thanks | 19:25 |
fungi | joa: also, i did already set that old account inactive and nulled out the login and e-mail address for it | 19:25 |
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anteaya | yeah, fungi is fast | 19:25 |
clarkb | zaro it is still very cluttered wirh important related info hidden in different locations | 19:25 |
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zaro | clarkb: i didn't say it was great, just prefer it over old screen :) | 19:25 |
joa | fungi: nice, thank you ! | 19:25 |
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anteaya | joa: nicely communicated | 19:26 |
sdague | clarkb: yeh, though honestly, that 'in conflict with' is huge | 19:26 |
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clarkb | zaro I think if votes, comments, diff and dependencies were more of the focus I would use it | 19:26 |
sdague | that would massively help figure out duplicate fixes for the same bug, which happens in nova all the time | 19:26 |
joa | anteaya: thanks :) | 19:27 |
clarkb | with gertty I read commit, look at current votes, then open diff | 19:27 |
clarkb | then vote | 19:27 |
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clarkb | that has to be close to 95% of what everyone does | 19:27 |
fungi | clarkb: i try to ignore current votes... there's probably no sane workflow optimization for that though | 19:27 |
clarkb | and the new change screen completely breaks that | 19:27 |
clarkb | ya I tried ignoring them but there are too many changes to review if they already have a good -1 | 19:28 |
fungi | clarkb: also, gerrit's webui doesn't work well in a text terminal, so clearly deficient ;) | 19:28 |
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* fungi has *actually* interacted with the gerrit webui using console-based browsers on more than one occasion, frighteningly | 19:29 | |
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clarkb | sdague the new change screen has nice features but no workflow cohesiveness | 19:30 |
clarkb | it just feels wrong to use | 19:30 |
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clarkb | sdague: did horizon httplib2 fix get ptoposed? | 19:31 |
sdague | clarkb: yeh, I definitely have issues with the information flow. But that's a reason to have multiple interfaces and use them situationally | 19:31 |
sdague | clarkb: yeh | 19:31 |
sdague | clarkb: merged - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102954/ | 19:31 |
clarkb | great thanks | 19:32 |
anteaya | joa: so I added fungi's comment in a reply to your email request: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/001464.html | 19:33 |
anteaya | joa: SergeyLukjanov has been taking care of ci account requests so hopefully he should get to yours sometime next week | 19:33 |
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zaro | clarkb: i don't see why your workflow in gerrty would be any harder when using new change screen? | 19:36 |
zaro | reminds me i still need to get gerrty workin gon my mac. | 19:36 |
clarkb | zaro comments and votes are more decoupled | 19:37 |
clarkb | and dependencies are completely hidden | 19:37 |
mordred | clarkb: but how would that affect gertty? | 19:37 |
zaro | ok. doubling comments and votes does help. but i guess that's what david's proposal is supposed to fix. | 19:37 |
clarkb | mordred: it doesnt | 19:38 |
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mordred | did we ever land that javascript patch to hide things? | 19:38 |
clarkb | mordred trying to use gertty as example of not terrible ui for what people actually do | 19:38 |
mordred | ah | 19:38 |
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zaro | fungi: ignore current votes? what if there was a per user option to hide votes? | 19:38 |
mordred | btw - I need to write a next key | 19:38 |
jroll | clarkb: hey, running that ironic agent post job again - where do the logs tail to? | 19:39 |
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fungi | zaro: it's more that i try not to pay much attention to existing votes on a change until after i look through the diff, then i check to see what others may have commented/voted (and check that their suggestions were followed if relevant) | 19:40 |
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clarkb | jroll http://logs.openstack.org/first2charsofsha1/sha1 | 19:41 |
zaro | fungi: hidden by default, expand to view? | 19:41 |
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jroll | clarkb: hrm, that's what I thought, but is 404ing :/ | 19:41 |
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fungi | jroll: what's the commit? keep in mind it may be a merge commit of your change and the tip of the branch, rather than the sha of your change | 19:42 |
jroll | looking at: http://logs.openstack.org/3c/3c09b3975fea0d26f3c563108f4fe07a5c58a6cb for the commit https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=openstack/ironic-python-agent.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c09b3975fea0d26f3c563108f4fe07a5c58a6cb | 19:42 |
jroll | ah, right | 19:42 |
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jroll | clarkb: that sha is the tip, hmm | 19:42 |
fungi | jroll: so figure out the commit sha from the remote (either by looking at cgit or doing a git remote update) | 19:43 |
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fungi | zaro: that might work out | 19:43 |
jroll | fungi: right, I did that, I have the correct sha | 19:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Doc generation support https://review.openstack.org/94861 | 19:44 |
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fungi | jroll: this? http://logs.openstack.org/b4/b4961f846e561d55162323478e43825e85584614/post/ironic-python-agent-buildimage-coreos/d3c134d/console.html | 19:45 |
fungi | oh, wait, i picked the wrong sha | 19:45 |
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jroll | fungi: right, it 404s right now... I thought it tailed as it went but maybe I need to wait for the job to finish? | 19:46 |
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fungi | jroll: yep, search http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ for 3c09b39 | 19:47 |
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jroll | yeah, it's in the post pipeline | 19:47 |
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jroll | I was just hoping to watch as it ran | 19:47 |
fungi | jroll: you can expand the commit in the status view and click the job name once it has a worker assigned and is in progress | 19:47 |
fungi | jroll: that job name will be hyperlinked to the jenkins master associated with the worker running it at that point, and you can click the console link to watch the output from the job as it runs | 19:48 |
jroll | ah ha, so it still hasn't started. I see, thanks fungi :) | 19:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove template for syncing python 2 mirror https://review.openstack.org/96799 | 19:50 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Ignore .egg directories https://review.openstack.org/96250 | 19:50 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove unused pypi jobs from projects https://review.openstack.org/96251 | 19:50 |
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fungi | sdague: that nova fix finally landed | 19:53 |
anteaya | dhellmann: this patch can use a confirmation from you that pylockfile is destined for inclusion in olso: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101911/ | 19:53 |
sdague | \o/ | 19:54 |
mordred | that's exciting | 19:54 |
mordred | dhellmann: I hope I didn't cause too much trouble by being all like "hey, we could still work on it" | 19:55 |
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dhellmann | anteaya: we have a spec for the team to discuss that (I left details on the review) | 19:57 |
dhellmann | mordred: ? | 19:57 |
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anteaya | dhellmann: okay, I will wait for your affirmation before I review that patch then | 19:59 |
dhellmann | anteaya: thanks, jd__ got a little ahead of us there :-) | 19:59 |
anteaya | dhellmann: once you have made a decision, bring it to my attention, whatever it is | 19:59 |
dhellmann | anteaya: definitely | 19:59 |
anteaya | dhellmann: funny how I can believe that | 19:59 |
anteaya | :D | 19:59 |
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anteaya | fungi: can you take a look at why this patch is no longer able to be tested in check? your combine infra gerrit groups patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102271/ | 20:08 |
fungi | anteaya: merge conflict. that stack of changes is going to merge conflict within 24 hours on average. it's the reason i basically automated generation of the changes and documented how to update them in the commit messages | 20:09 |
anteaya | do you want me to follow the documents and generate a new patchset? | 20:10 |
joa | anteaya: good, thank you :) | 20:10 |
fungi | anteaya: the idea is that as long as nobody spots obvious issues with the methodology, we'll pick a time for me to just generate fresh commits with the script and then approve them immediately so they don't instantly go stale | 20:10 |
anteaya | joa: you are welcome | 20:10 |
anteaya | fungi: ah okay, I will review with that in mind | 20:11 |
fungi | anteaya: but there's no rush on them | 20:11 |
anteaya | I tend to look at the jenkins state before I dive in | 20:11 |
anteaya | sure but I would like to clear the pending acl changes from my list | 20:11 |
anteaya | I would like to learn how to review a new kind of file | 20:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Integration tests for templates defaults https://review.openstack.org/103134 | 20:16 |
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anteaya | fungi: how do you feel about getting rid of refs/for/refs in individual acl files? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/openstack/keystone.config | 20:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Moved Tempest regex outside pre_test_hook https://review.openstack.org/103233 | 20:20 |
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fungi | anteaya: good question... it looks like keystone-core has the ability to propose merge commits to keystone. that may be in support of the feature branch model described at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Merge_Commits | 20:21 |
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anteaya | fungi: so refs/for/refs allows the group with permissions to submit merge commits to gerrit | 20:26 |
anteaya | I wonder if that is what keystone actually wants to do | 20:26 |
fungi | anteaya: they were using a feature branch to work on a replacement api at one point, i think | 20:27 |
anteaya | when I talked with morganfainberg about it when he had the keystonemiddleware patch up, neither he nor I knew what refs/for/refs did | 20:27 |
morganfainberg | anteaya, i don't think we ever used the merge | 20:27 |
anteaya | hmmmm | 20:27 |
anteaya | morganfainberg: do you still need the permissions to be able to do that? | 20:27 |
morganfainberg | anteaya, we cherry-pick/port code as needed | 20:27 |
morganfainberg | anteaya, well we removed the permissions from keystoneclient :P | 20:27 |
anteaya | if no, I'd like to remove refs/for/refs from keystone.config | 20:27 |
anteaya | morganfainberg: yes we did | 20:28 |
morganfainberg | anteaya, but we can probably remove refs/for/refs from keystone | 20:28 |
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morganfainberg | worst case scenario | 20:28 |
morganfainberg | we add them back | 20:28 |
anteaya | morganfainberg: agreed | 20:28 |
anteaya | thanks | 20:28 |
morganfainberg | it's not a big deal on either side nor a big change | 20:28 |
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anteaya | fungi: do you want me to put that in a seperate change? | 20:28 |
anteaya | morganfainberg: great, thanks | 20:28 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Bump minimum pbr version to 0.6 and requ argparse module https://review.openstack.org/103087 | 20:28 |
fungi | so poked a little more at these broken changes... you can find them by short commit number but not the long commit id... go to https://review.openstack.org/23447 and then click on its commit id linked in the commit message. fun stuff | 20:29 |
fungi | anteaya: yes, changing policy/behavior is outside the scope of that series of changes i submitted. mine are all about being no-op cleanup/reordering | 20:29 |
anteaya | okay I will offer a separate patch for removing refs/for/refs from keystone.config | 20:30 |
fungi | anteaya: in theory my acl patches should not change the behavior of acl enforcement for any project | 20:30 |
anteaya | I'll also look at what other acls have it that might not need it | 20:30 |
anteaya | fungi: nod | 20:30 |
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anteaya | how many characters is the short commit number? | 20:31 |
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anteaya | I've tried 6 and 8 and neither work | 20:31 |
fungi | anteaya: the integer change number... 23447 | 20:32 |
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anteaya | wow | 20:34 |
fungi | i still can't find any errors logged in gerrit suggesting why queries (in the gui or webui) fail to find it | 20:35 |
anteaya | you can't search on sha anymore, or change id | 20:35 |
anteaya | wow | 20:35 |
fungi | er, in the webui or cli | 20:35 |
fungi | it's gotta be something gone sideways in the db for those changes, i just haven't been able to spot what | 20:36 |
anteaya | kk | 20:36 |
anteaya | I'll leave it with you | 20:36 |
anteaya | this is how I confirm candidates for elections | 20:36 |
anteaya | one way, anyway | 20:36 |
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fungi | it might be affecting entire projects... i see the same behavior on the parent of that change too... https://review.openstack.org/23127 | 20:38 |
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fungi | the only two projects i've seen it affecting are puppet modules we haven't merged anything new into since before we switched infra projects back from cherry-pick to merge | 20:40 |
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anteaya | yeah okay it is working for infra-manual | 20:43 |
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fungi | aha, it seems to maybe be affecting any change which used the cherry-pick method. here's one from the same timeframe in the config repo... https://review.openstack.org/23455 | 20:50 |
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fungi | so i think the impact is likely to be very small, and can probably be worked around by manually merging a trivial change to affected repos, then rebasing outstanding changes which are parented on cherry-picked commits | 20:51 |
fungi | zaro: any guesses what could be going on to cause that? | 20:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-dashboard: Update source and homepage URL metadata https://review.openstack.org/103240 | 21:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/puppet-dashboard: Update source and homepage URL metadata https://review.openstack.org/103240 | 21:01 |
* zaro has big headache | 21:01 | |
zaro | fungi: not following, what's the problem | 21:02 |
zaro | ? | 21:02 |
fungi | zaro: gerrit searches for the change id of https://review.openstack.org/23455 seem not to work, for example | 21:02 |
fungi | zaro: or any gerrit ssh query for that change | 21:02 |
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fungi | zaro: seems to affect any old changes we have which used the cherry-pick submission method in gerrit | 21:03 |
zaro | oddly sounds familiar. but don't remember where i've seen before. however i believe the fix was to let gerrit re-index. | 21:03 |
fungi | zaro: for a handful of older projects we have which we haven't merged anything into since before we switched back off cherry-pick, zuul is failing to enqueue jobs for new changes because gerrit parents them on a change you can't query | 21:04 |
fungi | zaro: re-index being the fix suggests that we somehow haven't indexed since upgrading? | 21:04 |
fungi | these changes are more than a year old | 21:05 |
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zaro | ohh, well then i'm probably wrong. | 21:05 |
anteaya | re have reindexed | 21:06 |
openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-dashboard: Add Rakefile file and dd variables and document https://review.openstack.org/102796 | 21:06 |
anteaya | I think clarkb did it | 21:06 |
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fungi | my theory on a workaround has proved out. made a small documentation change to openstack-infra/puppet-dashboard (which zuul of course couldn't test because it couldn't query teh parent change), then force submitted it as a project bootstrapper, then rebased one of the outstanding changes on that and zuul tested it | 21:07 |
zaro | puppet script will do it too. | 21:07 |
fungi | i'll do the same to the other known affected project as well, and we can keep that solution in mind if we run across any more or someone can dig deeper and open a bug with gerrit upstream if they're particularly concerned by it (i don't expect us to use the cherry-pick option on projects in the future after we determined the obvious down-sides to it anyway) | 21:11 |
zaro | fungi: looks like someone else has reported as well.. https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=1023 | 21:11 |
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fungi | zaro: huh... and supposedly fixed in the version we were using back when those changes were created | 21:12 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove old queries for fixed bugs https://review.openstack.org/102547 | 21:12 |
fungi | perhaps a regression | 21:13 |
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fungi | zaro: also, in our case, it's not just search by git commit sha which is broken, but also by gerrit change id and gerrit change number | 21:14 |
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zaro | gerrit change number == change id? | 21:15 |
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fungi | zaro: in the case of https://review.openstack.org/23455 queries by git commit sha (120b366247e8ccb0d3a74a4b700418b613a2f439) gerrit change id (Iceadd57e5008f2289fb5e5c546a40f0f9ededc7c) and gerrit change number (23455) all fail | 21:16 |
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fungi | and in the changes and patch_sets tables in the db they all look correct | 21:17 |
fungi | as well as in the git repo itself | 21:17 |
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zaro | hmm, does sound like a regression. i'll test with a clean gerrit install to verify. | 21:18 |
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fungi | zaro: yeah, i wonder if this has to be a change submitted in gerrit 2.4 using cherry-pick, then upgraded to 2.8 | 21:19 |
fungi | like maybe the search index isn't picking up any of the cherry-pick changes | 21:19 |
fungi | due to some missing db migration | 21:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-vcsrepo: Add source and homepage URL metadata https://review.openstack.org/103243 | 21:22 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/puppet-vcsrepo: Add source and homepage URL metadata https://review.openstack.org/103243 | 21:22 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for neutron bug 1332917 https://review.openstack.org/102724 | 21:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-apparmor: Update source and homepage URL metadata https://review.openstack.org/103244 | 21:25 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/puppet-apparmor: Update source and homepage URL metadata https://review.openstack.org/103244 | 21:25 |
openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-apparmor: Add Rakefile file and update puppet coding style https://review.openstack.org/102794 | 21:25 |
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fungi | okay, at least new and outstanding changes to any of those three projects will get attention from zuul now | 21:26 |
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dgenin | hello, I have a question about how Tempest tests are run in the gate. Specifically, I am interested in whether it is possible (or maybe it is already done) to test against a cloud with LVM backend ephemeral storage. | 21:26 |
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fungi | dgenin: we use ephemeral storage with our nodepool nodes. we pre-cache git repositories and packages in relatively small (~10-20gb) root partitions and then when the nodes are launched from those snapshots we mount their ephemeral storage and move the cached data into them before continuing to run devstack-based jobs | 21:28 |
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dgenin | fungi: Let me make sure I understand: the Tempest tests are run against DevStack, which is itself running in a VM. | 21:32 |
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fungi | dgenin: correct | 21:32 |
fungi | dgenin: oh, you're asking about running tempest to test an existing cloud? | 21:33 |
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dgenin | fungi: no, I have some LVM backend code I would like to test in the gate and I am just trying to figure out whether this is feasible. | 21:33 |
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fungi | dgenin: this channel is the people who run the developer infrastructure for the openstack project. questions about how to run tempest and what it can support are possibly better fielded in #openstack-qa | 21:34 |
dhellmann | anteaya: merges are being announced in openstack-oslo, thank you for tracking that down | 21:34 |
anteaya | dhellmann: yay | 21:34 |
anteaya | my accomplishment of the week! | 21:35 |
anteaya | :D | 21:35 |
dgenin | fungi: ok, I will try there, but I think whether such tests are possible in principle may depend on how the infrastructure is set up. | 21:35 |
fungi | dgenin: i honestly don't know a ton about how the devstack clouds we test are configured (i mainly only dig into that when someone needs help troubleshooting a problem with a new or existing job) | 21:35 |
dhellmann | anteaya: :-) | 21:35 |
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fungi | dgenin: i know a fair amount about the virtual machines in which we run devstack | 21:35 |
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fungi | dgenin: but it sounds like your questions are about devstack/tempest themselves rather than the machines they're run on? | 21:36 |
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dgenin | fungi: yes, i think, you may be right. i am in the process of figuring out how the testing framework works, so i am still looking for what the right questions are. thank you for the info. | 21:37 |
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fungi | dgenin: for example, i do know that we make sure the lvm2 package is installed by default in the vm in case tools need to create volume groups or something | 21:37 |
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dgenin | fungi: ok, that's certainly useful. | 21:38 |
dgenin | fungi: do you know if there are any tests that actually setup lvm volumes? | 21:38 |
fungi | dgenin: i don't think there are any, but i very well could be wrong about that. the qa peeps are far more likely to know | 21:39 |
dgenin | fungi: ko, i will go bother them then. thanks again. | 21:39 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add keystonemiddleware to devstack-gate https://review.openstack.org/102340 | 21:41 |
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sdague | ok, the grenade backport finally landed, only 10 hrs later :) Now hopefully that will help with ES parsing once it gets through it's backlog | 21:43 |
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reed | are euca2ools still around? | 21:44 |
reed | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/33193/can-i-create-an-instance-with-a-specific-name-with-euca2ools/ | 21:45 |
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fungi | reed: seems to still be reasonably active... https://github.com/eucalyptus/euca2ools/graphs/contributors | 21:46 |
reed | fungi, no doubt... I should have framed my question better: do we still use them at openstack? | 21:47 |
reed | i thought we deprecated them a long time ago | 21:47 |
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fungi | reed: looks like someone has been recently editing https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/APIFeatureComparison#Amazon_EC2_API_Compatability | 21:49 |
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fungi | reed: but probably more of a question for the nova devs, i suspect | 21:50 |
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zaro | fungi, anteaya : the cherry-picked changes seemed to be searchable when i tested on review-dev and on a master build of gerrit. | 21:53 |
zaro | here's the one on review-dev: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23455/ | 21:54 |
fungi | zaro: yeah, then it's probably something to do with how we upgraded them | 21:54 |
zaro | oops mean this link https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/c/5289/ | 21:55 |
fungi | zaro: because from what i can tell, i can search for old changes merged using the merge-if-needed method but not those merged with the cherry-pick method | 21:55 |
fungi | zaro: from roughly the same timeframe | 21:55 |
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anteaya | interesting | 21:56 |
anteaya | where any of them ones we had to set workflow on? | 21:57 |
fungi | anteaya: all of them, yes | 21:57 |
anteaya | ah | 21:57 |
anteaya | so perhaps the way we set workflow | 21:57 |
anteaya | what user were you to do that? | 21:57 |
anteaya | project bootstrapper? | 21:57 |
fungi | anteaya: we set workflow +1 on every change which was previously approve +1 | 21:57 |
anteaya | oh sorry | 21:58 |
anteaya | I meant the wip changes that got left behind | 21:58 |
fungi | anteaya: not through the api. it was edited in place in the db, so still attributed to whatever user previously had applied the approve +1 | 21:58 |
anteaya | and we had to set them to workflow -1 as a special effort | 21:58 |
fungi | anteaya: oh, you mean for wip | 21:58 |
anteaya | yes | 21:58 |
anteaya | so I might be confused | 21:58 |
fungi | anteaya: that was only done to changes which were open when we upgraded | 21:59 |
anteaya | yes | 21:59 |
anteaya | so different changes than these changes? | 21:59 |
fungi | these were approved and closed more than a year before the upgrade | 21:59 |
anteaya | oh | 21:59 |
fungi | so wouldn't have been work-in-progress | 21:59 |
anteaya | oh okay | 21:59 |
anteaya | right yeah | 21:59 |
anteaya | how odd | 21:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove queries for fixed bugs. https://review.openstack.org/103009 | 22:04 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Add osprofiler to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/102362 | 22:06 |
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reed_ | Newsletter is out | 22:11 |
reed_ | I'll experiment with this irccloud thingie | 22:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update oslo.config to 1.4.0.0a1 https://review.openstack.org/103256 | 22:14 |
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jeblair | fungi: hi there; i was away longer than expected; anything need urgent attention? | 22:24 |
fungi | jeblair: i don't think so. i've just started to put together https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/repo-renaming-2014-06-28 for tomorrow | 22:24 |
anteaya | so reading the community email we have a user signed up as a ci: http://activity.openstack.org/data/plugins/zfacts/view.action?viewproperties=true&instance=Person,personeba6e279-c66d-4266-a778-7fc9961e7727 | 22:25 |
anteaya | any thoughts on how we fix this? | 22:25 |
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jeblair | fungi: cool, are we lacking the stackforge rename? if so, i can bash that out | 22:26 |
jeblair | fungi: (stackforge rename change) | 22:26 |
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fungi | jeblair: i haven't looked yet. was going to review them as i put ther list together | 22:27 |
anteaya | no no, it is a ci | 22:27 |
fungi | so i'll know in a bit | 22:27 |
jeblair | anteaya: so no problem? | 22:27 |
anteaya | reed: can you address whatever it is you use to scrape to get new users for the newsletter | 22:27 |
anteaya | jeblair: yeah no problem | 22:27 |
anteaya | reed: it is picking up ci accounts, which we really don't want | 22:28 |
anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/270,members | 22:28 |
anteaya | the IBM xCAT CI showed up in the newsletter as a new user | 22:28 |
anteaya | but it is in the third party group | 22:28 |
fungi | anteaya: reed: probably whatever is being used for that should just ignore commits to the openstack-dev/sandbox repo | 22:29 |
anteaya | I agree with that as a starter | 22:29 |
anteaya | is there anyway to remove them if the are a member of the third party ci gerrit group? | 22:30 |
openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Downgrade puppetlabs-apache to version 0.0.4." https://review.openstack.org/103258 | 22:30 |
anteaya | remove that account that is, from being reported as a new contributer in the newsletter | 22:30 |
fungi | anteaya: oh, i see, these aren't commits submitted by that account, they're only review comments/verify votes | 22:30 |
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anteaya | fungi: yeah, look at teh bottome | 22:31 |
anteaya | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-June/004639.html | 22:31 |
anteaya | under new users | 22:31 |
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anteaya | hello clarkb | 22:31 |
anteaya | I hope you had a good drive | 22:31 |
clarkb | wow netsplits are fun | 22:31 |
anteaya | woo | 22:31 |
clarkb | yes drive was good | 22:31 |
anteaya | good | 22:31 |
clarkb | what did I miss during driving and netsplit? | 22:32 |
anteaya | ah fungi is tracking an odd gerrit bug | 22:32 |
jeblair | remind me not to accept rename requests before there are changes for them in the future. :) | 22:32 |
clarkb | those two changes that don't list over ssh? | 22:32 |
anteaya | can search on shas for two repos | 22:32 |
clarkb | jeblair: :) | 22:32 |
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clarkb | logstash seems to be status quoing so I won't worry about it a whole lot riht now | 22:33 |
fungi | jeblair: yeah, looks like there's no change proposed to move murano projects to stackforge-attic, and we also don't seem to have a bash8 rename change yet | 22:33 |
anteaya | so you get to pick | 22:33 |
anteaya | aren't you lucky | 22:33 |
fungi | i can whip up the bashate change real fast if desired... | 22:33 |
jeblair | fungi: i'll do both | 22:33 |
fungi | sdague: ^ ? | 22:33 |
clarkb | and it looks like gertty synced the things I did in the car | 22:34 |
fungi | jeblair: oh, okie dokey | 22:34 |
clarkb | anything I can do to help other folks? | 22:34 |
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anteaya | I'm good, unless you want to review two infra manual patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/infra-manual,n,z | 22:35 |
anteaya | should be nice a quick (I hope) | 22:35 |
fungi | clarkb: so the gerrit issue turns out to be that the search index seems not to be picking up any old cherry-picked changes from before we switched infra projects back to using merge-if-needed strategy. side effect is that any projects whose last commits were in that timeframe end up with new commits untestable by zuul (because it can't quert the parent commit, which is the branch tip) | 22:36 |
jeblair | fungi: neato! | 22:36 |
clarkb | anteaya: for 102933 does it make sense to just tell people to make their username the same as launchpad? | 22:36 |
clarkb | anteaya: I wonder if that block of text will confuse people | 22:36 |
clarkb | fungi: wow | 22:37 |
fungi | the three i found i worked around by force-submitting simple documentation/packaging metadata changes into, and then rebased the outstanding changes on top of the new branch tips | 22:37 |
clarkb | fungi: hax! but I like it | 22:37 |
fungi | after that, zuul can test them again | 22:37 |
anteaya | clarkb: well how well does that work, to tell people to do that | 22:38 |
fungi | zaro has already confirmed that new cherry-picked changes are searchable (at least on a test gerrit), so that leaves the probability that it was something which didn't get updated correctly during the upgrade (maybe a missing db migration?) | 22:38 |
anteaya | infra still works fine if they make them different | 22:38 |
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anteaya | clarkb: but stackalytics wont track them | 22:38 |
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anteaya | clarkb: chuckC helped me learn that | 22:39 |
clarkb | anteaya: right but we are saying two different things there. FIrst we say it is arbitrary then we say it matters | 22:39 |
anteaya | clarkb: I can jsut leave that out, but the knowledge that stackalytics expects them to be the same will get lost | 22:39 |
anteaya | clarkb: it doesnt' matter to infra | 22:39 |
anteaya | it might matter to the user | 22:39 |
clarkb | actually i am going to restart logstash workers now to see if they get happy with that grenade fix in | 22:39 |
reed | I usually filter those by hand | 22:39 |
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reed | But I have failed today ... Again | 22:39 |
anteaya | if they end up caring about stackalytics a month or so after they start | 22:39 |
anteaya | but I don't want to mention an non-infra app in an infra manual | 22:40 |
anteaya | reed: have you considered putting your newsletter drafts in an etherpad | 22:40 |
fungi | anteaya: stackalytics already has a bunch of mapping data, so i'm sure they can add something for "this is my gerrit username, it's different from my lp username" or whatever | 22:40 |
anteaya | and letting me go over it before you post? | 22:40 |
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anteaya | fungi: they do, if you file a patch | 22:41 |
anteaya | if you know to file a patch | 22:41 |
anteaya | reed: me or someone else | 22:41 |
anteaya | reed: to catch the obvious things like checking the governace repo and removing ci from new contributors | 22:41 |
reed | anteaya: it would require too much preparation :) | 22:41 |
anteaya | okay | 22:41 |
anteaya | we can keep doing this then | 22:42 |
clarkb | anteaya: well I think if there are tools that expect them to be the same we should just tell people to make them the same | 22:42 |
anteaya | if you want | 22:42 |
anteaya | clarkb: okay | 22:42 |
anteaya | we can try that | 22:42 |
anteaya | lets see what happens if we do that | 22:42 |
clarkb | because it is a bit annoying when we are asked to fix that stuff | 22:42 |
clarkb | maybe we can just avoid it entirely | 22:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Updates Gerrit Username and Elastic-Recheck information https://review.openstack.org/102933 | 22:46 |
anteaya | clarkb: lets try that and see what happens | 22:46 |
jesusaurus | fungi: i just noticed that your rebase of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102796/ kept my vote but not my comment (which I just re-added) | 22:46 |
clarkb | anteaya: thanks | 22:46 |
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anteaya | np | 22:47 |
anteaya | thanks for reviewing | 22:47 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move Designate from stackforge to openstack https://review.openstack.org/102328 | 22:48 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename bash8 to bashate https://review.openstack.org/103259 | 22:48 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-repository to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103260 | 22:48 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-metadataclient to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103261 | 22:48 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-common to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103262 | 22:48 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-conductor to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103263 | 22:48 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-tests to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103264 | 22:48 |
clarkb | jeblair: did you have a chance to chime in about trying ssd volumes for ES? | 22:48 |
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jeblair | clarkb: what's the question? | 22:49 |
mordred | clarkb: I'm in favor of trying things | 22:49 |
mordred | btw - anyone who thinks that cloud changes the way you think about IT just needs to read this channel on a regular basis | 22:49 |
clarkb | jeblair: 1, whether you think that is an appropriate thing to do given our resources and weirdness we haev seen with normal volumes and 2, if you think pvmove live is a good way to do it | 22:49 |
jeblair | mordred: :) | 22:50 |
mordred | the amount of time we talk about cpu capacity, disk space, cpu speed and disk speed is ... well. ... rather normal | 22:50 |
jeblair | mordred: it totally makes afs easier to run! | 22:50 |
mordred | the only difference is the speed with which we can try things | 22:50 |
mordred | jeblair: we really need to do that, btw | 22:50 |
mordred | jeblair: so that people stop mocking us | 22:50 |
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jeblair | clarkb: 1) yes -- still planning on trying with one host? 07? | 22:50 |
mordred | jeblair: clark mentioned AFS as a solution to a problem in an internal HP chatroom a couple of days ago | 22:50 |
mordred | jeblair: he was either serious and we've turned him, or he was making fun of me, or both | 22:51 |
clarkb | jeblair: yes will start with 07 | 22:51 |
clarkb | jeblair: and probably on monday | 22:51 |
jeblair | mordred: eeexcellent... they're actually the same thing | 22:51 |
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clarkb | mordred: I was semi serious | 22:51 |
clarkb | mordred: people wanted synchronized filesystems across nodes | 22:51 |
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fungi | jesusaurus: yep, sorry about that--was troubleshooting why that change wasn't being tested | 22:51 |
clarkb | AFS | 22:51 |
jeblair | mordred: "haha only serious" comes to mind. | 22:51 |
mordred | jeblair: ++ | 22:51 |
jeblair | clarkb: i can't come up with a reason not to pvmove live | 22:52 |
jesusaurus | fungi: no worries, that was just an fyi in case it indicated a deeper problem | 22:52 |
clarkb | jeblair: cool I will roll with that in the morning on monday | 22:52 |
lifeless | clarkb: not ceph? | 22:54 |
clarkb | lifeless: ceph filesystem is still not to be used last I heard | 22:54 |
clarkb | because btrfs degrades over time then you have a sad or some such | 22:54 |
lifeless | clarkb: well rather I mean ceph + ext4 on top | 22:55 |
mordred | lifeless: yeah - everything I hear about cephfs to me screams "please don't ever use this" | 22:55 |
fungi | i can attest to btrfs sadness. i tried to use it for a while back before it had a fsck | 22:55 |
lifeless | mordred: I did not say cephfs | 22:55 |
jeblair | fungi: "but you don't need an fsck" | 22:55 |
clarkb | lifeless: as long as you can mount that ext4 fs in many places | 22:56 |
fungi | all i can say is eek, i'm glad i had regular backups | 22:56 |
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lifeless | mordred: hows the flight? | 22:56 |
mordred | lifeless: not on it right now - board in 30 | 22:56 |
mordred | lifeless: so GREAT! | 22:56 |
fungi | jeblair: yeah, tell that to all the blocks btrfs decided it couldn't find one day ;) | 22:56 |
lifeless | clarkb: do they want multimaster writes, or just synchronised? | 22:56 |
jeblair | fungi: "you don't need those blocks" | 22:56 |
fungi | jeblair: clearly i didn't! | 22:56 |
clarkb | lifeless: just synchronized reads would be ok | 22:56 |
clarkb | lifeless: with one writer | 22:56 |
mordred | sounds like AFS to me | 22:56 |
clarkb | that is what I said :) | 22:57 |
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lifeless | that is indeed an AFS speciality | 22:57 |
clarkb | well first I said why does it need to be synchronized then I got yelled at | 22:58 |
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clarkb | because not being sychronzied solves everything | 22:58 |
jeblair | okay, i pushed up changes for all the other renames (and rebased the designate one just to make sure it's up to date). those changes are all stacked. | 22:58 |
* clarkb reviews | 22:58 | |
jeblair | clarkb: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/repo-renaming-2014-06-28 | 22:58 |
jeblair | i think the bash8 groups are the only ones that need renaming | 22:59 |
fungi | jeblair: thanks--currently reading my way through them and git grep'ing to make sure we're not missing something obvious | 22:59 |
mordred | clarkb: why did you get yelled at | 22:59 |
mordred | fungi: oh wait - I think there's something else that needs rename.. | 23:00 |
clarkb | mordred: iirc people have a hard time comprehending package skew | 23:00 |
fungi | clarkb: eventual consistency means eventual profit | 23:00 |
mordred | I mean - jeblair | 23:00 |
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clarkb | "it worked here why doesn't it work there?" | 23:00 |
clarkb | well because.... | 23:00 |
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fungi | here is not there, qed | 23:00 |
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mordred | fungi: you've confused me with your latin | 23:01 |
jeblair | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oakland_HERE-THERE.jpg | 23:01 |
clarkb | in other news I cleaned up a ton of yeasty liquid vegemite stuff off the top of fermenters when I got to portland | 23:01 |
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anteaya | nice | 23:02 |
clarkb | I was tempted to see if I could make vegemite with it then I smelled it | 23:02 |
anteaya | good on toast | 23:02 |
clarkb | and now it is in the trash | 23:02 |
fungi | clarkb: sounds like good eatin' | 23:02 |
anteaya | ha ha ha | 23:02 |
fungi | you do have to simmer it down to make a proper marmite/vegemite. needs to be like black tar | 23:02 |
jeblair | um. i have to run for a bit. bbl. :) | 23:03 |
clarkb | jeblair: one sec | 23:03 |
jeblair | k | 23:03 |
clarkb | we are ermoving designate rtfd publishing | 23:03 |
clarkb | would it be better to turn that off at some point further out in the future? | 23:03 |
clarkb | maybe i am overthinking the value in persistent urls | 23:04 |
fungi | clarkb: that's probably a question for the designate contributor who wrote that change | 23:04 |
clarkb | oh right jeblair did the others | 23:04 |
clarkb | I will ntoe it on the review and move on | 23:04 |
fungi | i have to assume they made a conscious choice there | 23:04 |
fungi | greghaynes: ^ ? | 23:04 |
jeblair | clarkb: it's not going to immediately delete it from rtfd | 23:05 |
clarkb | jeblair: right it will just stop udpating it | 23:05 |
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jeblair | clarkb: so they can wait until it's at docs.o.o before deleting it | 23:05 |
jeblair | or even not | 23:05 |
fungi | yeah, it'll just grow stale until they upload a we-have-moved notice or similar | 23:05 |
jeblair | it won't even get that stale | 23:05 |
jeblair | it'll just switch to nightly updates | 23:05 |
clarkb | oh right rtfd does nightly updates too | 23:05 |
fungi | oh, fair point. i forgot rtfd has its own pull jobs | 23:05 |
clarkb | ok I am no longer worreid thanks | 23:05 |
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fungi | jeblair: the stackforge-attic edits need to be realphabetized in review.projects.yaml... i'll upload updated patchsets for those | 23:07 |
anteaya | I'll stop reviewing those patches then | 23:08 |
anteaya | until you submit new patches | 23:08 |
jeblair | fungi: ? | 23:08 |
jeblair | fungi: i missed it in the first change, but fixed it in the second one | 23:09 |
fungi | jeblair: oh... i got as far as the first one. anyway the alphabetization job will keep us from merging those unless we just ignore it | 23:09 |
jeblair | fungi: i was too lazy to go back and fix the first one figuring we're _probably_ going to merge them all, but can if you think it's important | 23:09 |
jeblair | oh right | 23:09 |
jeblair | fine | 23:09 |
jeblair | mumble mumble | 23:09 |
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* fungi fixes quickly | 23:10 | |
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jeblair | fungi: i'll do it | 23:10 |
fungi | okay, go for it | 23:10 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-conductor to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103263 | 23:12 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-common to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103262 | 23:12 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-repository to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103260 | 23:12 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-tests to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103264 | 23:12 |
jeblair | ugh, that's not right | 23:13 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Allow examining parsing exceptions. https://review.openstack.org/80856 | 23:21 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Teach pbr VersionInfo about debian versions. https://review.openstack.org/81074 | 23:21 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Teach pbr about post versioned dev versions. https://review.openstack.org/80449 | 23:21 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Add a converter to version_tuples. https://review.openstack.org/80457 | 23:21 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Break out a common version object from VersionInfo https://review.openstack.org/94108 | 23:21 |
lifeless | dhellmann: ^ | 23:21 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-conductor to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103263 | 23:24 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-common to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103262 | 23:24 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-metadataclient to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103261 | 23:24 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-repository to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103260 | 23:24 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move murano-tests to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/103264 | 23:24 |
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jeblair | okay, i think that's correct enough to review | 23:24 |
fungi | thanks! | 23:25 |
jeblair | git and i had some words. | 23:25 |
fungi | you showed it who wears the keyboard in this relationship | 23:25 |
jeblair | my keyboard got very loud for a bit there | 23:26 |
clarkb | but git carries the footgun | 23:26 |
clarkb | just remember that | 23:26 |
fungi | indeed | 23:26 |
jeblair | clarkb, fungi: should we switch gate-devstack-bashate to nonvoting for the weekend? | 23:29 |
fungi | jeblair: that seems like a stellar idea, so we don't break it waiting for image updates to finish | 23:30 |
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clarkb | ++ | 23:30 |
fungi | sdague: any objections ^ ? | 23:30 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make gate-devstack-bashate non-voting https://review.openstack.org/103272 | 23:32 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Make gate-devstack-bashate non-voting" https://review.openstack.org/103273 | 23:32 |
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rhg | warning | 23:32 |
rhg | you may be watched | 23:32 |
rhg | do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy?? | 23:32 |
rhg | do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying?? | 23:32 |
rhg | do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations?? | 23:32 |
rhg | ÊÍÐíÑ | 23:32 |
rhg | warning | 23:32 |
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mordred | darn. I was about to kickban someone from my phone | 23:36 |
fungi | already added their pattern to chanserv's akick list | 23:36 |
mordred | nice | 23:36 |
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jeblair | okay, really going afk now, bbl. | 23:37 |
fungi | clarkb: since gate-devstack-.* hasn't had its default set to bare-trusty yet, gate-devstack-bashate is only going to need bare-precise node images rebuilt successfully before we revert the non-voting, right? | 23:37 |
clarkb | fungi: correct | 23:38 |
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fungi | clarkb: thanks | 23:38 |
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fungi | it looks like we're all set for tomorrow in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/repo-renaming-2014-06-28 now, so i need to afk to do friday things | 23:43 |
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anteaya | fungi: thanks enjoy | 23:45 |
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