| anteaya | if ttx were up I'm sure you would be issued a gold star | 00:00 |
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| morganfainberg | anteaya, https://gist.github.com/dolph/651c6a1748f69637abd0 not too much else needed. | 00:00 |
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| anteaya | 9 fixes 4 of them approved already, way to go | 00:01 |
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| clarkb | the gate has been healthier. hopefully that means morgan isnt the only person pushing bugfixes through | 00:14 |
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| anteaya | hopefully | 00:15 |
| anteaya | and yay for a healthy gate | 00:15 |
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| anteaya | xing-yang is fixing bugs for cinder | 00:16 |
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| clarkb | 137 changes merged yesterday | 00:19 |
| clarkb | that is out of ~160 | 00:19 |
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| anteaya | pretty good | 00:21 |
| anteaya | and a nice percentage of merged too | 00:21 |
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| anteaya | so I was thinking of maybe wrapping up at some point soon | 00:43 |
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| anteaya | I need someone to disable 9732 mellanox Mellanox CI mlnx-openstack-ci@dev.mellanox.co.il please, 4 comments on patchset 3: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114328/ | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Don't crash if commit/messages lack owner/author https://review.openstack.org/121431 | 02:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Only consider tags that look like versions. https://review.openstack.org/114403 | 02:36 |
| lifeless | fungi: mordred: ^ should pass CI now, if I can has an updated review for it (and the trivial rebase of the one below) | 02:36 |
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| kevinbenton | anteaya: hi | 06:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update xstatic-jquery-ui for Horizon https://review.openstack.org/113184 | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Max Rasskazov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Update mechanism of creating groups in database and managing access rights with jeepyb https://review.openstack.org/117199 | 10:00 |
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| HeOS | Hello! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117199/ was rebased by Max Rasskazov. Check please and merge, if all good. | 10:08 |
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| rdopieralski | sorry for asking for reviews, but I'm afraid that it won't get in in time. This requirement has +1s from both Fedora and Debian packagers and a High priority bug on it. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113184/ | 10:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Upgrade django-pyscss to 1.0.3 for Horizon https://review.openstack.org/121509 | 11:08 |
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| bookwar | is there any way to test Jenkins job name before running the 'jenkins-job update" ? jenkins-job test outputs only the job xml and gives no checks for the name correctness (no '/' symbols fo example) | 11:16 |
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| rcarrillocruz | bookwar: not sure if http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/installation.html#test-mode may help you | 11:21 |
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| bookwar | rcarrillocruz: thanks, it actually helps. I forgot that there is -o option of test command. With this option it fails on names like 'test/something' because it can't create file with such a name. A little bit indirect check, but at least something. | 11:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | np | 11:25 |
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| rcarrillocruz | guys, do you still run jenkins slaves on precise? | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Add oslo_release.sh script https://review.openstack.org/121527 | 12:48 |
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| jhesketh | jeblair: if you have some time to look at 121528 that'd be awesome.. clearly a WIP but I think we're on track to implement the 'connections' stuff we talked about | 12:52 |
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| fungi | rdopieralski: you want to petition the direct members of https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/131,members for reviews of requirements changes (all 9 of them are on irc most of the time and are spaced out through at least american and european timezones) | 13:14 |
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| rdopieralski | fungi: I assume they are on this channe ltoo? | 13:15 |
| fungi | rdopieralski: most of them, yes, but as none are infra team core members they may not be paying close attention | 13:15 |
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| rdopieralski | fungi: wouldn't hightlighting them here be kinda rude? :/ | 13:16 |
| fungi | rdopieralski: dunno... i highlight people in here all the time. then again, i'm kinda rude ;) | 13:16 |
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| fungi | rdopieralski: anyway, there's no dedicated channel for requirements discussions, so your best bets are either a thread on the -dev ml or pestering them directly (in-channel highlight, direct /msg) in irc | 13:17 |
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| rdopieralski | fungi: thanks, I think I will try the mailing list then, it's the least obtrusive | 13:20 |
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| rcarrillocruz | thx for the review pleia2 (hiya!) | 13:48 |
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| pleia2 | rcarrillocruz: sure :) | 13:50 |
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| pleia2 | in Florida today visiting family, woo early :) | 13:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | sweet, hope you are having a good time there | 13:52 |
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| pleia2 | rcarrillocruz: thanks, pool later! | 13:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Update StackForge doc for Zuul project templates https://review.openstack.org/118861 | 13:59 |
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| anteaya | kevinbenton: hello, how can I help? | 14:00 |
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| anteaya | fungi: when you get a chance can I get 9732 mellanox Mellanox CI mlnx-openstack-ci@dev.mellanox.co.il disabled please? | 14:00 |
| fungi | anteaya: sure, doing that now | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add settings.xml parameter to Jenkins slave class https://review.openstack.org/121560 | 14:01 |
| anteaya | thank you | 14:01 |
| fungi | anteaya: 9732 is now set inactive | 14:01 |
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| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 14:03 |
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| jroll | good morning infra :) | 14:13 |
| anteaya | morning jroll | 14:13 |
| jroll | I've got a patch that refuses to go through the gate - do y'all want to look at that or should I just bump the rev and approve it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121153/ | 14:14 |
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| fungi | jroll: why? | 14:18 |
| fungi | jroll: you have to approve all the patches it depends on first | 14:18 |
| jroll | fungi: why bump a rev? | 14:18 |
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| jroll | oh wow | 14:18 |
| jroll | I'm sorry, I completely forgot it had deps | 14:19 |
| fungi | jroll: sorry if that comes as a surprise. it's how gerrit and zuul work | 14:19 |
| jroll | no, I knew that, just forgot they were there :) | 14:19 |
| jroll | thanks for that | 14:19 |
| fungi | okay, no worries | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/requirements: add oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/121580 | 14:20 |
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| mordred | rdopieralski: fwiw, I never find it rude to be highlighted in channel | 14:51 |
| rdopieralski | I see, thanks | 14:52 |
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| anteaya | bookwar: I miss you | 14:55 |
| anteaya | bookwar: haven't seen you around much lately | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Clean up Heat core team https://review.openstack.org/121593 | 14:55 |
| bookwar | anteaya: hi, we are in the process of moving to jenkins-job-builder for our three Jenkins master nodes, that's a lot of work :( | 14:56 |
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| anteaya | bookwar: yes, how are you doing? | 14:56 |
| bookwar | anteaya: we got jeepyb running for our gerrit setup and HeOS already created three patches to upstream for groups support, so there is a certain feedback from us | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add settings.xml parameter to Jenkins slave class https://review.openstack.org/121560 | 14:58 |
| krotscheck | StoryBoard meeting in #openstack-meeting | 14:58 |
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| bookwar | anteaya: and I was interested in infra puppet refactoring, are there any news about it i maybe missed? | 14:59 |
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| fungi | bookwar: any real news about it will be in the weekly infra team meeting minutes | 15:00 |
| fungi | bookwar: last week was basically the all-consuming rush to upgrade to puppet 3 before puppet 2.7 reaches end-of-support at the end of the month | 15:00 |
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| jeblair | storyboard meeting time | 15:04 |
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| bookwar | fungi: good to know. We use 3.4 internally so we became a bit closer now. | 15:05 |
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| clarkb | er o/ | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: o/ | 15:38 |
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| jroll | morning clarkb | 15:40 |
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| sdague | anyone know what the discrepancy between - http://status.openstack.org/bugday/ and "open bugs" in lp is? | 15:43 |
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| clarkb | sdague I am not sure I understand the wuestion completely but bugday runs on a daily cron iirc | 15:49 |
| sdague | clarkb: it runs more frequently than that | 15:50 |
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| sdague | however, the open bug count for nova in lp is 1256 and in bugday is < 1200 | 15:51 |
| sdague | is that just fix committed bugs? | 15:51 |
| zaro | morning | 15:51 |
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| clarkb | sdague oh I see of that I am unsure but fix committed seems like a likely reason | 15:53 |
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| sdague | ok | 15:53 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb, sdague: a quick question, what triggers the openstackid-release-master jenkins job defined zuul/layout.yaml? I successfully tagged the release, but am I need to create a propose/branch ? | 15:54 |
| mrmartin | I want to separate the staging and production releases somehow. | 15:54 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin pushing the tag to gerrit triggers the release pipeline jobs | 15:54 |
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| clarkb | for staging vs production zuul does undsrstand alpha/beta/pre/rc releases and can run different jobs for them in a pre release pipeline | 15:55 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: ok, I expected that, and if you check, you can see the 1.0.0 release on https://github.com/openstack-infra/openstackid, but the release.tar.gz was not made. | 15:55 |
| mrmartin | can I find some log somewhere what happened after tag push to gerrit? | 15:56 |
| clarkb | ok give me a few minutes to finish morning things then track down logs | 15:56 |
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| mrmartin | thanks | 15:56 |
| clarkb | mrmartin you can, its http://logs.openstack.org/first2charsofsha1/sha1 where sha1 is of the tag itself and not what the tag refers to | 15:57 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb, and how can I get the sha1 of the tag? git show 1.0.0 | openssl sha1 ? | 16:03 |
| mrmartin | or just echo 1.0.0 | openssl sha1 ? | 16:03 |
| mrmartin | or git show-ref 1.0.0 ? | 16:04 |
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| clarkb | one sec I never remember this part | 16:05 |
| clarkb | I think show shows the target sha1 | 16:05 |
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| fungi | show-ref tagname | 16:06 |
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| clarkb | fungi: thanks | 16:07 |
| clarkb | ya regular show shows the terget | 16:08 |
| mrmartin | oh cool it works, http://logs.openstack.org/ab/abfc7b3a72a604ad27d66a8cb90008d55f204fd6 | 16:08 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb, thank you, I'll review the logs, now I need to manage some evening tasks, but look back later. | 16:09 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: looks like it ran into an error which would explain why it didn't upload a tarball | 16:09 |
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| mrmartin | i see, I need to review this part and the exact reason of the error. | 16:10 |
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| rcarrillocruz | zaro: re: settings.xml on maven2/maven3 | 16:24 |
| rcarrillocruz | how about putting a case on jenkins params.pp that assigned the right location depending on the package installed? | 16:24 |
| rcarrillocruz | (hiya!) | 16:24 |
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| rcarrillocruz | what's odd to me is that jenkins params.pp always installs maven2: | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | 'Debian': { | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | # common packages | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | $jdk_package = 'openjdk-7-jdk' | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | $ccache_package = 'ccache' | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | $python_netaddr_package = 'python-netaddr' | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | $haveged_package = 'haveged' | 16:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | $maven_package = 'maven2' | 16:25 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: we'd really appreciate it if you pasted that sort of output into paste.openstack.org and just gave a hyperlink in here | 16:26 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, sorry | 16:26 |
| zaro | rcarrillocruz: ohh your right. we only use maven2. i thought we were using maven3 as well but i cannot find evidence of that. | 16:26 |
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| rcarrillocruz | zaro: but it's a good point, i better do it future proof | 16:26 |
| zaro | rcarrillocruz: so i think case on which maven package is installed sounds good. | 16:27 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, thx | 16:27 |
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| KIM_ | In My CI system, I configure the zuul to listen to master only branches but In non master commits I notice that my CI is still respond...Is someon have any idea why? | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Update to latest oslo.vmware https://review.openstack.org/121381 | 16:37 |
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| jeblair | KIM_: can you paste your layout.yaml to paste.openstack.org and copy the link in here? | 16:39 |
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| clarkb | zaro: rcarrillocruz: we install both maven2 and maven3 via jenkins | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | jenkins has that maven version specifier thing. | 16:41 |
| clarkb | though we may not want to rely on it too much since jenkins should be going away in the not too distant future | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi: what sorts of things do we need to do today to continue puppet3 goodness? maybe cleanup puppet.conf puppetmaster specification? | 16:42 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: that, start managing the pins again, and then move stuff from ci-puppetmaster to puppetmaster (i think it's just the launch stuff that's left) | 16:43 |
| fungi | clarkb: probably. i sent in a couple additional puppetdb-related (trivial) changes on top of jeblair's change to resume managing the pin | 16:43 |
| clarkb | cool /me looks at changes then | 16:43 |
| jeblair | the pins change is 120573 | 16:43 |
| jeblair | or i guess, the bottom of the stack is that :) | 16:43 |
| KIM_ | jeblair: I am looking for the link | 16:44 |
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| KIM_ | jeblair: http://paste.openstack.org/show/111794/ | 16:45 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: are you happy with me approving changes as I go? looks like I may be able to do that for at least the bottom of the stack | 16:46 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: ++ | 16:46 |
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| jeblair | KIM_: i don't see anything wrong with that... but you're seeing it actually vote on neutron changes for non-master branches? can you send me a link to a change it voted on? | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update Oslo libs to final Juno versions https://review.openstack.org/121621 | 16:51 |
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| clarkb | fungi: jeblair: I approved the first two in the stack and left a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121413/ | 16:51 |
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| fungi | clarkb: thanks! | 16:56 |
| * clarkb notes that dfw looks happy again but iad is a little unhappy | 16:56 | |
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| zaro | i just entered a new story into storyboard but cannot find it. anybody else having this issue? | 17:00 |
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| clarkb | oh zuul is doing a merge check block the world thing I think that may be why the jobs are not running yet for config | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | zaro: let me try | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | hrm I cna't seem to login. not sure if that is my tether or storyboard | 17:04 |
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| krotscheck | Sorry, just a sec. | 17:04 |
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| krotscheck | Logging in worked. | 17:05 |
| krotscheck | zaro: You don’t recall the title by any chance, do you? | 17:05 |
| krotscheck | zaro: You mean this one? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/296 | 17:05 |
| zaro | krotscheck: yep. that would be it. how come i couldn't find it? | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Mingyan Bao proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Bump python-cinderclient version to 1.1.0. https://review.openstack.org/121624 | 17:07 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: I did a hard refresh on the authorize url and that redirected me to ubuntu one openid | 17:08 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: so possibly was my tether | 17:08 |
| anteaya | hey zaro where are we on me getting gerrit permissions for third party ci accounts? | 17:08 |
| krotscheck | zaro: I suspect page size. | 17:08 |
| krotscheck | I sorted by creation date and it was right at the top. | 17:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add more @ signs to logs-dev and status vhosts https://review.openstack.org/121181 | 17:09 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: zaro if I go to projects and click on sandbox I get the story I just added | 17:10 |
| zaro | krotscheck: that sort wasn't working for me a few minutes ago, but it seems to work now. | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Update comments in puppet default https://review.openstack.org/121206 | 17:10 |
| clarkb | but searching for eg owner: or project: didn't not sure if those are valid search tag things | 17:10 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I would like to work on http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/config-repo-split.html | 17:11 |
| zaro | krotscheck: does my added task to that story make sense? or should it be in the story itself? | 17:11 |
| anteaya | jeblair: as a first step the spec says Git filter-branch the listed files into a project-config repo does this require the creation of a new repo, openstack-infra/project-config? | 17:11 |
| krotscheck | zaro: Total | 17:11 |
| anteaya | jeblair: if so, I can start the patch for that | 17:12 |
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| krotscheck | zaro: I’m pondering whether taht’s a good thing to add to a generic /status endpoitn | 17:12 |
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| clarkb | woot config puppet pin changes should be merging shortly | 17:12 |
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| clarkb | fungi: jeblair do we need a change to remove/change the puppetmaster value in puppet.conf? | 17:13 |
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| clarkb | I want to say nibalizer wrote one /me searches gerrit | 17:13 |
| zaro | krotscheck: what about general sys info? like python version running storyboard? | 17:14 |
| clarkb | hrm no luck | 17:14 |
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| krotscheck | zaro: Perhaps? All those things kindof fall into the ‘nice to have’ category though, don’t they? | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Stop managing puppet apt pins" https://review.openstack.org/120573 | 17:15 |
| zaro | krotscheck: sure. i like to have it :) | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Pin puppetdb to 2.x https://review.openstack.org/121412 | 17:16 |
| zaro | krotscheck: i can do if i can get a moment of your time to show me. | 17:16 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think so, for safety, yes. also makes it easier to test future puppetry without having to manually override --server every time | 17:16 |
| zaro | krotscheck: i have other REST requests as well. | 17:16 |
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| clarkb | woot changes merged. | 17:16 |
| krotscheck | zaro: Sure, when would you like to sit down? I might feel up to getting into the office on friday, but I’ll be in SF/LA tonight->thursday | 17:17 |
| zaro | krotscheck: ohh. i'm working on a plugin to integrate gerrit/storybaord. so these are the use cases i'm coming up with. | 17:17 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ok I will try to follow up on that, but right now I need to go hunting for a docsis3 modem | 17:17 |
| krotscheck | zaro: (I’ve still got post surgery things that are restricting me a bit) | 17:17 |
| krotscheck | Oh neat! | 17:17 |
| fungi | clarkb: i can push one up in just a sec | 17:17 |
| clarkb | fungi: great | 17:17 |
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| zaro | krotscheck: no problem. just point me to the REST code and i'll take a look. are there docs to install a personal storyboard for debugging? | 17:18 |
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| krotscheck | zaro: http://ci.openstack.org/storyboard/install/development.html | 17:19 |
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| zaro | anteaya: one change left to merge on upstream, https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/59540/ | 17:21 |
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| zaro | krotscheck: Get well. i'll give adding that version REST Api a try. | 17:23 |
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| zaro | anteaya: actually i think that change is gonna be difficult to get into our version of gerrit because upstream master is now very different than ver 2.8 | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add spec for creating a test metric database https://review.openstack.org/106584 | 17:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update jobs for zaqar https://review.openstack.org/121633 | 17:25 |
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| zaro | anteaya: there's probably 2 options. 1 is to upgrade openstack gerrit to something closer to master (probably 2.9). 2 is to make that feature a gerrit plugin. | 17:25 |
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| zaro | anteaya: i'm not sure which is better at this point. | 17:26 |
| zaro | jeblair, clarkb, fungi: ^ your thoughts? | 17:26 |
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| fungi | zaro: i think we should start evaluating the possibility of another gerrit upgrade for very early in the kilo dev cycle | 17:27 |
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| fungi | not sure if that warrants a summit design session slot, and maybe the discussion should start before the summit anyway | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | the user facing delta is pretty small right? | 17:28 |
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| zaro | clarkb: you mean gerrit UI? | 17:29 |
| clarkb | I think we can get away with wuicker upgrades as long as the ux isnt completely different like it was last time upgraded | 17:29 |
| clarkb | zaro ya | 17:29 |
| zaro | wuicker? | 17:29 |
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| anteaya | if the team is for upgrade, I am for upgrade | 17:30 |
| anteaya | if not I am for plugin | 17:30 |
| zaro | clarkb: the feature we are referring to doesn't have anything to do with UI/ | 17:30 |
| anteaya | zaro: want to add an agenda item to tomorrow's infra meeting, upgade gerrit in early kilo or no | 17:30 |
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| zaro | clarkb: it's an added ssh command | 17:30 |
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| anteaya | zaro: then we will know if we need to go plugin | 17:30 |
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| fungi | developing software which is already or will quickly become obsolete in the next gerrit release seems like a poor use of our time | 17:31 |
| anteaya | it does | 17:31 |
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| clarkb | zaro I know but we get new ui whether or not we want it | 17:32 |
| clarkb | *quicker | 17:32 |
| zaro | clarkb: old screen continues to live in 2.9 and 2.10. | 17:32 |
| clarkb | perfect | 17:32 |
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| anteaya | zaro: is 2.10 released? | 17:34 |
| zaro | anteaya: ok. i think we are leaning towards upgrade. lets bring it up in meeting. by time we upgrade 2.10 might get released. | 17:35 |
| zaro | anteaya: are you ok to wait until early kilo? | 17:35 |
| anteaya | awesome, yes let's have an initial assessment tomorrow | 17:35 |
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| anteaya | zaro: I have to wait until I get permissions anyway | 17:35 |
| zaro | cool | 17:35 |
| anteaya | it is more is everybody I bug to do stuff I can't do okay to wait | 17:36 |
| anteaya | zaro: thanks | 17:36 |
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| anteaya | fungi clarkb is your read of the first work item on this spec to create a new repo called openstack-infra/project-config? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/config-repo-split.html | 17:37 |
| anteaya | sorry better link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/config-repo-split.html#work-items | 17:38 |
| fungi | anteaya: yeah, i think so, and probably to also freeze those corresponding files in the existing repo while we filter-branch- them into a new repo and rush that through | 17:38 |
| anteaya | I'll do up the first draft of the patch to create the repo | 17:39 |
| anteaya | then I will need some help on the filter branch action | 17:39 |
| anteaya | never having done that before | 17:39 |
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| AJaeger | question to the experts: when we setup openstack-doc-tools, I guess anteaya didn't review the upstream import and we do have some extra tags. How can those get deleted? | 17:44 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: did I not review the upstream import? | 17:48 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: do you have a url for the patch? | 17:48 |
| clarkb | anteaya sounds good. filter branch is fun | 17:48 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I'm sure I will have zero issues, just fly through it all | 17:48 |
| anteaya | </sarcasm> | 17:49 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: that was a hidden praise that you do a great job nowadays with new projects ;) | 17:50 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58623/ - and you didn't review that - and since then I learned also a lot ;) | 17:51 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks | 17:51 |
| clarkb | anteaya the trick with filter branch is being unafraid to do it several times to get it right | 17:51 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I will don my unafraid armour | 17:51 |
| anteaya | I'm prepared for more than 10 tries | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: write down what you do and start from a fresh directory | 17:52 |
| anteaya | as long as I just delete and git pull to try again, Im fine | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: and if it works fine, tell us so that I can learn from it as well ;) | 17:52 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: for the filter branch? | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: yeah... | 17:52 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: sure I can do that | 17:52 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: and you are correct, I did not review the source repo for that patch | 17:53 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: since as you correctly point out, I didnt' review the patch | 17:53 |
| AJaeger | so, what can be done with that repo? Who has the power to remove tags? | 17:53 |
| anteaya | clarkb fungi jim monty sergey | 17:53 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: thanks! | 17:54 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, clarkb: can either of you delete some tags sometime, please? This is not urgent. Do you want a bug report, an email - or just details here on IRC? | 17:55 |
| fungi | AJaeger: how many tags? | 17:56 |
| clarkb | a bug would probably be best | 17:56 |
| clarkb | so that the deletions are recorded as happening? | 17:56 |
| fungi | also, be aware that once our systems have seen tags, they can't reliably "un-see" them do to the way remote updates work | 17:57 |
| fungi | we can get them deleted from git and the published replicas, but if you later replace one of those tags with a new one of the same name, our automation/tooling will have trouble | 17:57 |
| fungi | s/do/due/ | 17:57 |
| AJaeger | fungi, shouldn't be a problem with the tag names used. | 17:58 |
| fungi | ok | 17:58 |
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| AJaeger | filed bug#1369681 | 18:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update default server value to new puppet master https://review.openstack.org/121638 | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Keep environment for cloner in apply test sudo https://review.openstack.org/121641 | 18:09 |
| dprince | Anything I can do to speed up getting this landed :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112331/ | 18:09 |
| zaro | pelix: ping | 18:10 |
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| jeblair | dprince: lgtm | 18:11 |
| pelix | zaro: pong | 18:11 |
| dprince | anteaya: is it frowned upon that we would import a repo with a tag in it? | 18:11 |
| dprince | anteaya: in reference to your comment on the os-net-config thing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112331/ | 18:11 |
| dprince | jeblair: thanks | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Cease using ci-puppetmaster.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/121642 | 18:11 |
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| zaro | pelix: we ready to move forward on this change? https://storyboard.openstack.org/api/v1/stories/291 | 18:12 |
| jeblair | dprince: not really, mostly we just check on that because people have imported things with all kinds of crazy tags they actually wanted to get rid of. | 18:12 |
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| zaro | pelix: yike. wrong thingy. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56734 | 18:12 |
| clarkb | dprince approved | 18:13 |
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| dprince | clarkb: awesome! | 18:13 |
| anteaya | dprince: not frowned upon, just make sure we know you are aware that this is what you want to do | 18:13 |
| anteaya | if you read some scrollback from AJaeger a docs repo imported a bunch of tags they didnt' mean to | 18:14 |
| anteaya | now infra has to delete them | 18:14 |
| dprince | anteaya: cool. I get it. thanks | 18:14 |
| anteaya | dprince: thanks for asking :D | 18:14 |
| fungi | mordred: jeblair: clarkb: if none of you has started yet on moving the launch credentials over to the new puppet master, i'll go ahead and knock that out now | 18:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds a new repo for the High Availability Guide to be separate repo https://review.openstack.org/121426 | 18:15 |
| jeblair | fungi: i have not | 18:15 |
| anteaya | and yes, in that one I can understand where the tag came from since you created it to comply with my request for a pypi registration | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | I havent current trying to be useful as I transit in search of food and docsis modem | 18:15 |
| anteaya | dprince: so in a way, I forced the tag on you | 18:15 |
| pelix | zaro: I haven't quite gotten the code in place duplicate job group entries for projects without making a mess of the code | 18:16 |
| pelix | s/place/place to catch/ | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Cease using ci-puppetmaster.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/121642 | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update config documentation to refer to new master https://review.openstack.org/121644 | 18:17 |
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| zaro | pelix: huh? what do you mean? | 18:18 |
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| zaro | pelix: i'm ok with keeping duplicate jobs as an option. | 18:18 |
| zaro | pelix: i would like to see this one merged. | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds a new repo for the High Availability Guide to be separate repo https://review.openstack.org/121426 | 18:19 |
| pelix | The problem you referenced about adding another test for listing the same job multiple times. Maybe I misunderstood about what you meant | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Import os-net-config project under TripleO https://review.openstack.org/112331 | 18:20 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: I guess I found something, why openstackid release failed. http://logs.openstack.org/ab/abfc7b3a72a604ad27d66a8cb90008d55f204fd6/release/openstackid-release-master/be66fbb/console.html.gz It was built on a trusty node, and was never tested before, and seems to be that php5-mcrypt package is missing | 18:20 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: the mcrypt pacakge is defined in modules/jenkins/manifests/slave.pp, do we need to set this somewhere else for trusty? | 18:20 |
| zaro | pelix: ohh, yes we should have that test in place. | 18:21 |
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| zaro | pelix: sorry. i forgot about that request. i think that's the only thing missing. | 18:22 |
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| zaro | pelix: if it's difficult then maybe it can be a follow up change? | 18:23 |
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| krotscheck | can someone parse ‘from .. import errors’ for me? | 18:25 |
| krotscheck | Wait, n/m. | 18:25 |
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| pelix | zaro: currently the same job entry multiple times under a project does not trigger a duplicate found error | 18:27 |
| pelix | - project: | 18:28 |
| pelix | jobs: | 18:28 |
| pelix | - 'duplicates002_1.1' | 18:28 |
| pelix | - 'duplicates002_1.1' | 18:28 |
| pelix | isn't caught which I thought was the problem you were referring to | 18:29 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb does this look okay as a commit message? http://paste.openstack.org/show/111823/ | 18:29 |
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| anteaya | I'm uncertain of the syntax in the commit message for specs | 18:29 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: I suggest to link to http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/config-repo-split.html | 18:31 |
| zaro | pelix: yes. i see that. the change does catch most duplicate situations though so if it's difficult to make this last one work then maybe we should merged it and then work on the one that doesn't work in a follow on change? | 18:31 |
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| arosen | clarkb: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120929/ for you because of http://paste.openstack.org/show/111824/ | 18:33 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: you think linking to the html is better than linking to the rst? | 18:34 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: I think the web page looks nicer ;) | 18:35 |
| anteaya | okay | 18:35 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: my personal preference - I wouldn't -1 for it :) | 18:35 |
| fungi | i think we should just have a specs link syntax like we do for bugs/stories/blueprints | 18:35 |
| anteaya | fungi: I agree | 18:35 |
| anteaya | not sure what it should be though since the specs don't have numbers | 18:36 |
| fungi | actually, i changed my mind | 18:36 |
| * anteaya waits | 18:36 | |
| fungi | the specs process requires a corresponding story | 18:36 |
| fungi | so we should have story:NNNNN or whatever instead | 18:36 |
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| anteaya | it does: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/167 | 18:36 |
| fungi | that ensures that (once we have the right automation) it will also update corresponding tasks | 18:37 |
| anteaya | Partially impliments story: 167 | 18:37 |
| anteaya | do we like that? | 18:37 |
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| melwitt | is this the right channel to ask a question about pbr? if not, which channel? | 18:37 |
| fungi | krotscheck: what's the intended way to link stories in got commit messages... is there an established/emerging standard for it yet? | 18:37 |
| fungi | s/got/git/ | 18:38 |
| krotscheck | fungi: “Story: ##” | 18:38 |
| anteaya | melwitt: this is it | 18:38 |
| melwitt | anteaya: thanks | 18:38 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: so any partially implements at all? | 18:38 |
| anteaya | or just Story: 167 | 18:38 |
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| fungi | anteaya: stories have tasks, so partially is implied i think? | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: So far, just Story [0-9 | 18:39 |
| anteaya | okay | 18:39 |
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| krotscheck | sorry | 18:39 |
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| anteaya | so it shall be | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | Story [0-9]+ | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | argh | 18:39 |
| anteaya | Story: 167 coming up | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | living the typo life | 18:39 |
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| anteaya | krotscheck: master of your craft | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | indeed | 18:39 |
| pelix | zaro: I'll take another look at it tomorrow with some tests added and just to see what fails to be caught and then make a decision on just how difficult that will be to catch. | 18:39 |
| fungi | la vida typo | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | I’m at that point of caffienated where jitter is introducing type errors | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creates a new repo, project-config https://review.openstack.org/121650 | 18:40 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: ah fun | 18:40 |
| * krotscheck isn’t certain why that is. | 18:40 | |
| krotscheck | 1 cup shouldn’t do it | 18:40 |
| anteaya | melwitt: so was there a pbr question? not that I can answer it | 18:40 |
| krotscheck | It’s probably the meds. | 18:40 |
| melwitt | there's a bug open for novaclient where the person installed the client on mac os x via pip and then nova commands can't run because pbr can't get the version from git (there's no .git under python-novaclient). "Exception: Versioning for this project requires either an sdist tarball, or access to an upstream git repository. Are you sure that git is installed?" they were able to workaround by installing novaclient and pbr ea | 18:41 |
| anteaya | melwitt: but now I am curious | 18:41 |
| anteaya | ah there it is | 18:41 |
| melwitt | I'm not sure how it's supposed to work because if it's installed in a way that there isn't any .git, how can pbr do what it needs to do | 18:42 |
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| anteaya | hmmm dhellmann you run mac, any pbr advice for melwitt and this bug? | 18:44 |
| dhellmann | "installing ... ea"? | 18:44 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: what is ^^ | 18:44 |
| fungi | melwitt: that definitely sounds wrong... pbr encodes the version into the egg metadata at sdist time and then queries it at runtime | 18:45 |
| melwitt | oh sorry, got cut off I guess "they were able to workaround by installing novaclient and pbr each manually. does anyone have an idea what's the right way to fix this?" | 18:45 |
| mordred | melwitt: hi! | 18:46 |
| anteaya | yay | 18:46 |
| melwitt | mordred: hello :) sorry I'm totally lost on this. it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1369179 | 18:46 |
| mordred | melwitt: so, that seems to be a bug in _something_ for sure | 18:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1369179 in python-novaclient "nova list crashes on startup" [High,Confirmed] | 18:46 |
| mordred | melwitt: the version information should be installed into the pkg_resources of the machine | 18:46 |
| mordred | melwitt: so, the workflow you described is 100% accoutned for and supported | 18:46 |
| dhellmann | melwitt, anteaya, mordred : sorry, need to drop off for a few but I think I saw a fix maybe in an unreleased version of pbr for this | 18:47 |
| mordred | melwitt: however, we have no testing on osx | 18:47 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: thanks for chiming in | 18:47 |
| mordred | dhellmann: ooh! great | 18:47 |
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| mordred | melwitt: ^^ | 18:47 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: appreciate | 18:47 |
| dhellmann | I use pbr on os x all the time, but not with novaclient | 18:47 |
| melwitt | thanks dhellmann | 18:47 |
| dhellmann | fwiw, we should be encouraging the clients to just use pkg_resources for versioning | 18:47 |
| dhellmann | back in a few | 18:47 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: yah, I agree | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Install PyYaml for test-matrix.py https://review.openstack.org/120929 | 18:49 |
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| clarkb | dhellman mordred not sure what that entails. can you elaborate | 18:50 |
| melwitt | thanks anteaya and mordred! I'll check the pbr repo and locate the fix. and I'll also check how we could use pkg_resources for versioning (I don't know anything about that) | 18:50 |
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| SlickNik | Can I get folks to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121457/ when you get a chance? | 18:50 |
| SlickNik | We want to use a specs repository for Trove BPs for Kilo, so would appreciate it since the Kilo specs have already started coming in. | 18:50 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 18:50 |
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| craigbr | Can I somebodies to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119403/? We're ready to start putting stuff into it. When you get a chance | 18:51 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: sorry I had two drafts I never posted | 18:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use the current Puppet master when launching https://review.openstack.org/121654 | 18:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Install PyYaml for test-matrix.py https://review.openstack.org/120929 | 18:57 |
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| jogo | clarkb: I I am trying to run elastic-recheck-uncategorized locally and I keep seeing 'Read timeout' errors | 19:02 |
| anteaya | craigbr: I'm going to disagree with you on your review | 19:03 |
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| anteaya | craigbr: two points, trove is an openstack project, not stackforge | 19:04 |
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| anteaya | craigbr: also the specs repos don't need branches, which the trove.config has: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/openstack/trove.config | 19:04 |
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| anteaya | so for specs it actually is good if they have a seperate config file that doesn't have branching permissions | 19:04 |
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| craigbr | Ok. Didn't notice the first and didn't know the second. Thanks for the clarification | 19:05 |
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| anteaya | craigbr: sure, thanks for doing the review, you are doing great work! | 19:05 |
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| craigbr | anteaya: Thank you | 19:05 |
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| anteaya | craigbr: hey would you be so kind as to take a look at my repo creation patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121650/ | 19:06 |
| anteaya | craigbr: I would be interested to hear what you see | 19:06 |
| craigbr | Looking at it now | 19:06 |
| anteaya | thanks | 19:07 |
| arosen | what's jenkins_jobs/config/projects.yaml used for? It seems like i only need to update zuul/layout? | 19:08 |
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| anteaya | arosen: it has the configuration for the test nodes | 19:09 |
| anteaya | arosen: as well as calls the jenkins jobs if there are any specific to your tests | 19:10 |
| anteaya | arosen: for instance python-jobs need to be listed there if you want them in zuul/layout | 19:10 |
| arosen | anteaya: If I add a new project to the bottom of my zuul/layout.yaml it seems my CI just picks it up with out me having to touch jenkins_jobs/config/projects.yaml. | 19:10 |
| anteaya | arosen: merge check is defined in zuul/layout so if it is specified in zuul/layout it doesn't need to be listed in projects.yaml | 19:10 |
| arosen | i see | 19:11 |
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| anteaya | arosen: might I see the listing in zuul/layout? | 19:11 |
| boden | gents - quick question... the CI tests are parallelized correct? that is - if I had to collect consolidated "data" across multiple test classes / modules I'd have to assume each could be running in a different python runtime | 19:11 |
| anteaya | boden: do you only want to talk to the gents? | 19:11 |
| * anteaya stands back | 19:12 | |
| boden | :) It's a figure of speech | 19:12 |
| SlickNik | anteaya: No worries. I like your review suggestions on both counts, so will push up a fix shortly. | 19:12 |
| boden | anteaya ^ | 19:12 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: kk thanks | 19:13 |
| anteaya | boden: yes it is, and helps me decide which questions I do answer | 19:13 |
| * fungi hopes boden meant both gentlemen and gentlewomen | 19:13 | |
| fungi | as in he didn't want to converse with any harsh people like me | 19:13 |
| boden | anteaya / fungi -- s/gents/all/g | 19:14 |
| anteaya | fungi: what was the word you used, valet | 19:14 |
| anteaya | I like valet | 19:14 |
| fungi | boden: yes, testr parallelizes into multiple runtimes | 19:14 |
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| anteaya | if it comes to above stairs and below stairs I am definitely below stairs | 19:14 |
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| fungi | boden: what are you trying to consolidate from the different processes? perhaps a post-hoc analysis of the subunit files would work for your needs? | 19:15 |
| anteaya | I haven't gotten my walk in today, I would do so if it wasn't raining | 19:16 |
| boden | fungi - collecting stats across the various compute driver tests regarding which driver methods were called (more or less)... post-hoc analysis would work, but was looking to see if any tools for such text processing have been used to date | 19:17 |
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| mtreinish | boden: if you're talking about unit tests, you could use coverage to do that, there is already a tox job for that | 19:18 |
| fungi | boden: so you're basically looking for coverage reporting, but limited to enumerating methods called from specific objects? | 19:18 |
| fungi | mtreinish beat me to it | 19:18 |
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| mtreinish | fungi, boden: if you run tox -ecover with a regex only for the tests you care about, then the generated html output will show per file which lines are called | 19:19 |
| boden | fungi / mtreininsh - not sure coverage would work (as-is) since each virt driver tests may not map cleanly into the driver interface.. but I maybe wrong | 19:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creates a new repo, project-config https://review.openstack.org/121650 | 19:21 |
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| anteaya | thanks craigbr ready for another look when you are | 19:21 |
| mtreinish | boden: if the code get's executed coverage will show it. If things are mocked out, then it won't work. It's at least worth a try | 19:21 |
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| boden | mtreinish thanks... I think most is mocked out, but I'll take a look to make sure | 19:22 |
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| anteaya | as a side note, I had thought that female reviewers where higher than they actually are | 19:22 |
| anteaya | I was disappointed when I spent time on stackalytics and looked a names of reviewers | 19:23 |
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| anteaya | far fewer women than I had thought | 19:23 |
| anteaya | so for those who create a supportive working environment, I thank you | 19:23 |
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| fungi | grrr... rackspace-dns-cli / | 19:30 |
| fungi | it doth not run | 19:30 |
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| fungi | pkg_resources.VersionConflict: (prettytable 0.6.1 (/root/rackdns-venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages), Requirement.parse('PrettyTable>=0.7,<0.8')) | 19:30 |
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| anteaya | 8 women in the top 100 reviewers | 19:31 |
| fungi | also it uses openstack-common circa two years ago | 19:31 |
| anteaya | just in case anyone cares | 19:31 |
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| anteaya | fungi: awesome | 19:32 |
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| fungi | yes, it is a steaming pile of code | 19:32 |
| anteaya | one of many you have fallen into over the years, I am sure | 19:32 |
| * anteaya goes back to reviews | 19:33 | |
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| arosen | clarkb: check it out, i hooked up our zuul to devstack-gate and it was able to verify this patch now works :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120929/ | 19:40 |
| * arosen now fixes test-matrix.py | 19:40 | |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds a new repo for the High Availability Guide https://review.openstack.org/121426 | 19:41 |
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| anteaya | Ajeger ^^ that's more like it | 19:45 |
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| fungi | jeblair: clarkb: mordred: SergeyLukjanov: jhesketh: nibalizer: end of the new puppet 3 cleanup change series is now https://review.openstack.org/121654 | 19:47 |
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| mordred | fungi: woot | 19:48 |
| reed | are there any major concerns to configure mailman not to allow attachments in messages to the lists? | 19:51 |
| mordred | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121642/ <-- you gotta do the increase serial number dance on the ssh key | 19:52 |
| mordred | reed: ++ | 19:52 |
| reed | it looks like a couple of mail servers automatically reject attachments with .ini and .conf extensions | 19:52 |
| mordred | I don't know why people would have a valid reason to send attachments | 19:52 |
| fungi | reed: mordred: we're not interested in developers being able to attach config file samples? | 19:52 |
| reed | fungi, we have paste.openstack.org for that | 19:52 |
| fungi | (or operators for that matter) | 19:52 |
| reed | I never open attachments anyway, I think it's universally accepted that if relevant, the text should be in the body | 19:53 |
| reed | or if long, in a pastebin | 19:53 |
| mordred | yah | 19:53 |
| mordred | I agree with reed | 19:53 |
| fungi | also, multi-part mime for signatures on advisories, release announcements and so on might be affected | 19:53 |
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| fungi | worth testing to make sure we don't break our users' ability to send signed e-mail messages to the lists | 19:54 |
| reed | fungi, I think we can restrict the attachments to .ini and .conf to start and size, like it is now to limit pictures | 19:54 |
| reed | fungi, also we can start with the general list and extend to others later | 19:54 |
| reed | uhm | 19:56 |
| reed | mailman seems not to have a simple way to do that, unsuprisingly | 19:56 |
| jeblair | huh, i think attachments are really useful | 19:56 |
| fungi | well, "attachments" is sort of vague in mime terms | 19:57 |
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| reed | ok, no consensus :) | 19:57 |
| jeblair | for config files, logs, etc. but i could certainly see some lists adoping different policies. | 19:57 |
| fungi | quick summary: intel's mtas are bouncing e-mails which contain arbitrary attachments. the one i was shown as an example had a couple nova config files, Type: application/octet-stream, Encoding: base64, Size: 3.5K | 19:58 |
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| jeblair | that's :( | 19:59 |
| fungi | of course, if that keeps happening then mailman is going to automatically unsubscribe those subscribers from the lists where this is happening, so it may be a self-correcting problem | 19:59 |
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| fungi | "your employer doesn't want you discussing complex issues with outsiders using your work e-mail address, please resubscribe from a working mail domain instead" | 20:00 |
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| reed | yeah | 20:00 |
| reed | probably we should notify people at Intel | 20:00 |
| reed | 64 people | 20:02 |
| anteaya | folks who request third party gerrit accounts sometimes attach text files with their ssh key | 20:02 |
| fungi | in related news, i finally figured out what was causing me to get repeatedly unsubscribed from our lists | 20:02 |
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| fungi | tl;dr is don't subscribe to lists with an address in our sysadmins address list | 20:03 |
| anteaya | fungi: do tell | 20:03 |
| anteaya | why not? | 20:03 |
| anteaya | what happens | 20:03 |
| fungi | e-mail worms send copies of themselves to our lists masquerading as our postmaster/mailer-daemon address | 20:03 |
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| anteaya | oh | 20:04 |
| anteaya | awesome | 20:04 |
| fungi | mailman sees these as invalid and rejects them, sending bounces to postmaster/mailer-daemon which get forwarded to the addresses in our sysadmins address list | 20:04 |
| fungi | my mailserver was scanning them upon delivery, noticing they were infected, and rejecting them | 20:05 |
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| fungi | exim on the listserv was then bouncing those failed deliveries back to mailman | 20:05 |
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| fungi | and mailman was seeing them as delivery failures for those lists to my address, and unsubscribing me | 20:06 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 20:06 |
| jeblair | fungi: this should be easy to resolve; reject mail to mailing lists from system accounts, yeah? | 20:06 |
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| fungi | jeblair: i wonder how to do that without breaking actual bounce processing... i guess we'd have to make mailman silently discard them instead of bouncing them (rather than trying to filter them in exim) | 20:08 |
| jeblair | fungi: well, the problem is that they came from postmaster@lists.openstack.org, right? that should never happen in reality | 20:08 |
| jeblair | (smtp from postmaster@lists.o.o) | 20:08 |
| fungi | right. let me dissect an example... i've switched my e-mail address in our sysadmins list to an alternate and am accepting and freezing messages which fail my virus scans now rather than rejecting them | 20:09 |
| jeblair | k | 20:09 |
| fungi | so i have several sitting frozen in my exim queue i can analyze | 20:10 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: master troll | 20:16 |
| fungi | jeblair: http://paste.openstack.org/show/111863 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111864 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111865 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111866 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111867 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111868 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111869 http://paste.openstack.org/show/111870 | 20:16 |
| anteaya | almost need a paste of paste urls | 20:16 |
| fungi | jeblair: those are a representative selection of the ones i've been getting | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Keep environment for cloner in apply test sudo https://review.openstack.org/121641 | 20:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: so maybe reject messages with smtp from postmaster@fqdn that do not originate from the local host | 20:18 |
| fungi | jeblair: and mailer-daemon@ since those are also happening | 20:18 |
| fungi | jeblair: that would be a good way of dealing with it actually, yeah | 20:19 |
| fungi | since that's the only host which should ever originate messages from that address | 20:19 |
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| fungi | what's amusing is that many of them seem to even be spoofing lists.openstack.org as the smtp helo too | 20:21 |
| fungi | but clearly with random source ip addresses which are not that server | 20:21 |
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| fungi | anyway i'll figure out and propose a suitable tweak to the exim config | 20:22 |
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| anteaya | krotscheck: you suggested I bring up the storyboard project groups on the infra meeting yet you already have them on the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 20:23 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: was that from last week? | 20:23 |
| fungi | anteaya: did you look at the edit history for that wiki page? | 20:24 |
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| krotscheck | anteaya: Naah, that’s after we had a brief discussion about it in the storyboard meeting this morning, and realized that the scope was more infra and less storyboard. | 20:24 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: great I will remove my item | 20:24 |
| anteaya | fungi: I had not no | 20:24 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: So I put it on the agenda while it was still fresh in my mind. Sorry about not updating the review. | 20:25 |
| fungi | anteaya: page -> history | 20:25 |
| fungi | anteaya: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting&action=history | 20:25 |
| mordred | krotscheck: I think the answer is the one that causes you to brew the most alcohol | 20:25 |
| fungi | anteaya: it's a very handy way of answering that question | 20:25 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you | 20:25 |
| jogo | anyone know if someone has done any gerrit analysis about number of reviews per patch, number of rechecks etc? | 20:25 |
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| mordred | jogo: I believe this guy named joe will have done that in the near future ... | 20:26 |
| jogo | as there are a lot of conversations going on that seem to be making assumptions about things that we can measure | 20:26 |
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| jogo | mordred: I think your right. what things would we wan to measure | 20:27 |
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| jogo | sdague: ^ | 20:27 |
| mordred | jogo: but blind assumptions are more fun | 20:27 |
| jogo | mordred: no doubt | 20:27 |
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| anteaya | makes for better arguments at dinner and beer time | 20:28 |
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| anteaya | ianw: so looking at tomorrow's infra agenda, do you still need the urls listed that are currently posted, or can any be trimmed? | 20:28 |
| sdague | jogo: what question are you trying to answer? | 20:29 |
| anteaya | sdague: he is looking for a quest | 20:29 |
| sdague | no, he's looking for data | 20:29 |
| anteaya | to build the next tool hotness for data anyalisis | 20:29 |
| sdague | but you do that to answer a question | 20:29 |
| clarkb | woot modem and lunch acquired now time to hack on things | 20:29 |
| jogo | sdague: trying to provide data to some of the nova debates going on. For example number of rechecks | 20:29 |
| sdague | or confirm or reject a hypothosis | 20:30 |
| jogo | sdague: for starters the data set would be patches in nova | 20:30 |
| anteaya | sdague: true | 20:30 |
| fungi | jogo: based on my reading of that thread, the way to get nova into better shape is less testing ;) | 20:30 |
| anteaya | clarkb: congratulations | 20:30 |
| anteaya | clarkb: are you in the new place? | 20:30 |
| fungi | clearly fewer tests means fewer expectations that it actually works. problem solved | 20:31 |
| jogo | sdague: things like track number of rechecks needed to get a patch merged | 20:31 |
| jogo | sdague: number of reviews needed to merge a patch | 20:31 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I am not hacking from there but yes got keys yesterday | 20:31 |
| jogo | sdague: number of reviews per revision | 20:31 |
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| jogo | sdague: anything else that you want to know. so what questions would you like answered | 20:31 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: how does it look? when do you get to be in there? | 20:31 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I camped out there last night so I am in there nowis | 20:32 |
| sdague | jogo: ok, but that's still not questions. That's data. Is the question "Do we do too many rechecks to land things?" | 20:32 |
| jogo | sdague: right | 20:32 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: its just not great for hacking until furniture is moved though I can use the bar area as a standing desk and will try that tomorrow | 20:32 |
| anteaya | clarkb: nice boxes are your friend | 20:32 |
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| jogo | sdague: well I cannot answer that, but I can say we do x rechecks to merge something | 20:32 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: cool | 20:33 |
| jogo | sdague: how much is too much adds opinion in | 20:33 |
| sdague | jogo: ok | 20:33 |
| sdague | yeh, so honestly, do you think there was an issue with mikal's statement that we've been rechecking like mad? | 20:33 |
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| jogo | sdague: no, but we can say how many rechecks we do | 20:34 |
| jogo | is the trend getting worse, better | 20:34 |
| sdague | I guess I didn't see that part of the email controversial | 20:34 |
| jogo | sdague: how much do we 'babysit' patches | 20:34 |
| jogo | through the gate | 20:34 |
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| sdague | ok | 20:34 |
| sdague | that's just a function of the failure rates though | 20:34 |
| sdague | and it seems like you have those graphed | 20:34 |
| sdague | it's mostly a dependant variable | 20:35 |
| jogo | sdague: Q: does it take longer to land virt driver code then other code | 20:35 |
| sdague | ok, that's a fair question | 20:35 |
| clarkb | but that question is independent of rechecks and the gate state | 20:36 |
| sdague | right | 20:36 |
| clarkb | because that is a moving constant for everyone | 20:36 |
| anteaya | jogo: if that is the question I would also compare loc code for virt driver patches compared to other patches | 20:36 |
| anteaya | since driver code I see has really big patches | 20:36 |
| anteaya | speaking from looking at neutron driver code mostly, so grain of salt there | 20:36 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: what did I do? | 20:37 |
| jogo | clarkb: I would measure it from first patch to approved | 20:37 |
| fungi | if you have information on the number of changes which are ejected from the gate and the number which merge, given a sufficiently long span, the ratio should approach the number of times on average a change has to enter the gate, but that still misses rechecks of a change in the check queue (failures for which may have prevented reentering the gate) | 20:38 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: oh, I the review email now | 20:38 |
| fungi | though given that a change has to go through check and gate to merge, it may be a safe approximation to simply double that ratio | 20:38 |
| jogo | fungi: yeah I want to know the number of rechecks in check too | 20:38 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: trolled me in a review, the elipsis comment | 20:39 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: :D | 20:39 |
| jogo | fungi: there are also number of revisions for check | 20:39 |
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| fungi | jogo: sure, though that may be somewhat independent of the gating speed | 20:39 |
| jogo | fungi: anyway number of rechecks is easy to discover | 20:39 |
| clarkb | ~. | 20:40 |
| jogo | fungi: post processing the data to make it meaningful may still be a challange | 20:40 |
| jogo | so I have two questions so far: | 20:40 |
| anteaya | a sailboat sailing into the sunset | 20:40 |
| jogo | does it take longer to merge code in X versus code in !X? | 20:40 |
| jogo | longer to get approved* | 20:40 |
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| jogo | and how many rechecks are needed to get the center of a tootsie pop | 20:40 |
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| clarkb | jogo: rechecks are irrelevant to the first question | 20:41 |
| jogo | clarkb: yup | 20:41 |
| fungi | yeah, i think the "how long to get approved" and "how many rechecks to merge" are separate questions and you may need different datasets to answer them | 20:41 |
| jogo | clarkb: two independent questions | 20:41 |
| jogo | any other questions? | 20:42 |
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| anteaya | lines of code | 20:42 |
| jogo | anteaya: yup, I added a comment to how long to approved to normalize for LOC | 20:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred commented on the puppet stack | 20:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: at least one change needs a new patchset. I am working backwards to the parent to begin reviewing myself | 20:44 |
| anteaya | jogo: kk | 20:44 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks... i'm revisiting and trying to figure out how to interpret his comment | 20:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: basically the ssh authorized key resource type is silly and won't udpate the file unless you change the namevar which in our case is a date based serial number thing | 20:45 |
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| clarkb | fungi: so you want to set the old date serial to absent and make a new one for nowish that is ensure => present | 20:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: oho--i see that now | 20:46 |
| fungi | thanks... respinning | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Cease using ci-puppetmaster.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/121642 | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update config documentation to refer to new master https://review.openstack.org/121644 | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use the current Puppet master when launching https://review.openstack.org/121654 | 20:48 |
| fungi | mordred: clarkb: addressed ^ | 20:48 |
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| clarkb | thanks reviewing now | 20:49 |
| nibalizer | fungi: reviewing now | 20:50 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: thanks | 20:50 |
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| fungi | clarkb: regarding your comment on 121638 i'll go ahead and disable it now so we don't forget | 20:50 |
| arosen | Hi, anyone mind hitting this one in so we can enable our CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120929/ | 20:51 |
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| clarkb | fungi: sounds good | 20:52 |
| fungi | clarkb: arosen: any reason we now have devstack-gate managing its own dependencies in 120929 rather than leaving that to puppet? | 20:53 |
| mordred | fungi: I agre | 20:55 |
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| fungi | i don't think it's necessarily the wrong decision, just one we should discuss architecturally as "is this a direction we want d-g going in?" | 20:55 |
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| mordred | fungi: we have slave puppet configs, I do not understand why we'd install things in d-g - other than it's harder for people to contribute patches to puppet | 20:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: that was jeblair's suggestion. I could go either way | 20:57 |
| arosen | fungi: I think it's nice to be able to run devstack-vm-gate even if you're not using the puppet configs? | 20:57 |
| clarkb | but more importantly other people want to use d- | 20:57 |
| clarkb | *d-g and may not have our puppet? | 20:57 |
| clarkb | either way is fine to me | 20:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: hrm. well - I think if that's a thing we're wanting to support, we should think about it | 20:57 |
| mordred | OR - we shoudl put more things into devstack and not in devstack-gate | 20:58 |
| mordred | if we have TWO projects that are sets of shell scripts taht are supposed to be general purpose, that seems strange | 20:58 |
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| mordred | espcially when one just calls the other | 20:58 |
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| mordred | I could be wrong though | 20:58 |
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| fungi | well, i do think that the matrix bit is more devstack-gate than it is devstack (this is, how do we know what we want to set devstack up to do and what tests do we want to run?) | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | fungi: agreed | 21:00 |
| fungi | but yeah, we have this very small shell-based project (becoming smaller with each passing day), but we had a bit that was too complex to do well in shell so it was in python, and now we're going to add a shell-based dependency manager for it | 21:01 |
| fungi | crazy idea, but should test-matrix.py get packaged? | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | fungi: thats a erasonable question | 21:02 |
| clarkb | sdague: ^ thoughts on that? I think instead we could refactor the datastructure into something like json if not | 21:02 |
| fungi | i'm just worried this risks making d-g more complex when we're on a mission to simplify it as much as possible | 21:03 |
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| sdague | clarkb: it's an option... is it worth it? | 21:03 |
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| sdague | brb | 21:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: right. so maybe a better alternative is to stick to python stdlib there? | 21:04 |
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| clarkb | fungi: and use json? | 21:04 |
| fungi | otherwise, i think devstack-gate needs to grow packaging of its own (or an installer, bootstrapper, something) | 21:04 |
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| fungi | sure, json or configparser or something | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creates a new repo, project-config https://review.openstack.org/121650 | 21:05 |
| clarkb | I am happy to hack on a json features file if we like that idea. I like json because internal representation in test-matrix.py shouldn't need to change | 21:05 |
| arosen | in the meantime i'll just edit /etc/nodepool/scripts/prepare_node.sh to install python-yaml for me :) | 21:06 |
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| fungi | arosen: in my opinion that's an entirely sane place to fix it | 21:06 |
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| arosen | fungi: gotta rebuild my image though :( | 21:07 |
| arosen | but np | 21:07 |
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| sdague | clarkb: so the json feature file would just be to avoid the yaml dependency? | 21:07 |
| sdague | cause I'll be honest, I find reading yaml a ton easier than json for stuff like this | 21:07 |
| clarkb | sdague: right, because we can serialize and deserialize json with stdlib | 21:07 |
| clarkb | sdague: I agree | 21:07 |
| clarkb | but we aren't doing anything in yaml that is not in json | 21:07 |
| jeblair | --json ++yaml | 21:08 |
| sdague | except being readable | 21:08 |
| jeblair | unless anyone actually wants json, let's not go down that path | 21:08 |
| sdague | agreed | 21:08 |
| fungi | i'm not opposed to leaving devstack-gate the way it is now. i think making it self-bootstrap by guessing platform-specific dependencies is overly complex just to avoid preconfiguring your environment in your puppet configuration or nodepool prep scripts or whatever | 21:09 |
| clarkb | it is also a file we look at once a cycle | 21:09 |
| sdague | fungi: yeh, I think fix it in docs is fine for this | 21:09 |
| clarkb | I dunno the brain overhead to reading json once a cycle vs making test-matrix.py a package seems like json wins | 21:10 |
| fungi | if we had a big list of dependencies it needed to declare, then maybe. but this is currently just to support installing a yaml lib | 21:10 |
| clarkb | but I am also happy with the change I proposed | 21:10 |
| jeblair | we're trying to simplify the node types and expect jobs to be able to install their own deps, so i suggested d-g should be able to do that in keeping with that philosophy | 21:11 |
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| jeblair | otoh, we're not quite there yet. we still have a lot in puppet | 21:11 |
| fungi | also if we go down that road with d-g, there are two options. one is to package d-g and leverage package-based dependency declaration, the other is to have it grow devstack-like dependency management | 21:12 |
| fungi | the proposed change feels like it's heading toward the latter | 21:13 |
| jeblair | when we switch to cloner, we'll lose a lot of shell. but i still think a lot of d-g is going to be shell | 21:13 |
| jeblair | copying files, etc... | 21:13 |
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| jeblair | it seems weird to split test-matrix into a separate package just to make it installable :/ | 21:15 |
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| jeblair | it seems like it should continue to live in d-g since it goes hand-in-hand with shell | 21:15 |
| fungi | on the other hand, do we want d-g then to be "installable" in some sense, or to bootatrap itself and grow platform recognition | 21:16 |
| jeblair | anyway, i think the best 2 solutions are either what clarkb proposed, or say it's a documentation issue and it should be taken care of before running d-g (eg, in nodepool scripts) | 21:16 |
| jeblair | i'm not sure anything more complicated is warranted at this point (but if we slide further down that slope (which i think is unlikely) we should revisit) | 21:17 |
| jeblair | anyone object to either of those? | 21:17 |
| clarkb | nope | 21:18 |
| jeblair | the second sounds pretty close to 'status quo' | 21:18 |
| fungi | i'm cool with 120929 as is, just wanted to make sure we discussed the direction it takes | 21:19 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, nibalizer: http://logs.openstack.org/41/121641/2/experimental/gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise/9a122e6/console.html | 21:20 |
| jeblair | new puppet integration test looks like it's working? (with the one minor change in 121641) | 21:21 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I would agree with that statement | 21:22 |
| * clarkb reviews change | 21:22 | |
| markvan | clarkb: fungi: thttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/121164/ should be straight forward review. | 21:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: what is the difference between those two files? we are running just test.sh in the job right? //me looks at logs | 21:23 |
| clarkb | nope nevermind we run apply-test.sh | 21:23 |
| jeblair | yeah, apply-test should supercede test | 21:24 |
| jeblair | i just modified test.sh for better comparison with current job (which runs test.sh) | 21:24 |
| jeblair | http://logs.openstack.org/41/121641/2/check/gate-config-puppet-apply-precise/630aa63/console.html | 21:24 |
| clarkb | so yup it looks like zuul cloner did the thing we wanted it to do | 21:24 |
| jeblair | (output from current job ^) | 21:24 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: looks like its working to me as well | 21:24 |
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| clarkb | markvan: done | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | sdague: should we be debugging why the postgres jobs are so slow? | 21:28 |
| clarkb | sdague: not sure if that fits into stabilization during feature freeze | 21:28 |
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| sdague | clarkb: that's possible, though honestly, I don't feel like that config is very valuable at this point. My suggestion is to delete it unless there is someone that's going to step up and own it. | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | sdague: any chance you can run your time globbing script thing against it and the normal job? | 21:31 |
| clarkb | sdague: thinking some hard data may help the kill it or own it argument (no rush though) | 21:31 |
| sdague | sure | 21:31 |
| sdague | hmmm... formatting change? | 21:32 |
| clarkb | formatting change? | 21:32 |
| anteaya | I need 10119 varmourci vArmour CI openstack-ci-test@varmour.com | 21:32 |
| anteaya | disabled again | 21:32 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch infra to new puppet apply job https://review.openstack.org/121675 | 21:32 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove test.sh https://review.openstack.org/121676 | 21:32 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move puppetmaster_boostrap to tools dir https://review.openstack.org/121677 | 21:32 |
| sdague | clarkb: in jenkins | 21:32 |
| anteaya | this is becomeing a weekly thing | 21:32 |
| clarkb | sdague: I don't think so, we are running jenkins lts | 21:32 |
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| melwitt | has anyone seen pbr unit tests run via tox fail because GPGKeyFixture times out doing ['gpg', '--gen-key', '--batch', config_file], tempdir.path)? am I missing something | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fix missing sudo on gem install https://review.openstack.org/121164 | 21:34 |
| mordred | melwitt: I believe there is a patch up for that ... | 21:34 |
| clarkb | melwitt: ya it means you don't have enough entropy | 21:34 |
| mordred | lifeless, dhellmann; ^^ you guys remember? | 21:34 |
| mordred | oh! thanks | 21:34 |
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| mordred | melwitt: don't listen to me | 21:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: melwitt: our slaves should have the thing to fix that now | 21:34 |
| mordred | yes. they should | 21:34 |
| clarkb | melwitt: was this in jenkins or locally? | 21:35 |
| anteaya | clarkb fungi mordred can I get 10119 varmourci vArmour CI openstack-ci-test@varmour.com | 21:35 |
| anteaya | disabled? | 21:35 |
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| melwitt | mordred, clarkb: thank you! this is locally, this is the first time I've ever run pbr tests | 21:35 |
| lifeless | mordred: haveged | 21:35 |
| anteaya | I seem to have collected a newline in my paste | 21:35 |
| sdague | clarkb: oh... I had precise hardcoded in node name :) | 21:35 |
| clarkb | melwitt: ^ if you install haveged it can give you more entropy particularly useful on VMs | 21:35 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: uh sure. let me figure out how that works | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: would you file a bug against pbr to have that test produce a better error message, please? | 21:35 |
| jeblair | ssh review gerrit set-account --inactive 10119 | 21:36 |
| jeblair | clarkb: anteaya ^ | 21:36 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ty | 21:36 |
| clarkb | anteaya: doing that now | 21:36 |
| fungi | sorry, wandered off to get some food. catching up now | 21:36 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:36 |
| melwitt | clarkb: thanks, will try that | 21:36 |
| clarkb | anteaya: and done. you sending email? | 21:36 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yes | 21:36 |
| clarkb | or if you need me to let me know what details are | 21:36 |
| melwitt | dhellmann: sure, I'll file a bug | 21:36 |
| clarkb | kk perfect | 21:36 |
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| sdague | clarkb: https://dague.net/testing/check-tempest-dsvm-full.png vs. https://dague.net/testing/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full.png | 21:37 |
| anteaya | it is going to take more than these folks saying turn me on, for me to turn them on again | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: please include that thing clarkb said to install, maybe we can include that in the error message :-) | 21:37 |
| clarkb | sdague: ty | 21:37 |
| anteaya | this is like 4 times in a row I have disabled them | 21:37 |
| melwitt | dhellmann: okay :) | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: thanks! | 21:37 |
| clarkb | sdague: that seems to confirm it | 21:37 |
| sdague | clarkb: also... https://github.com/sdague/tempest-timings | 21:37 |
| clarkb | sdague: that postgres is consistently ~20 minutes slower | 21:38 |
| sdague | it's really just dl and ./scrape.py | 21:38 |
| clarkb | sdague: starred | 21:38 |
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| clarkb | thanks again | 21:38 |
| sdague | clarkb: yep, and no real idea why | 21:38 |
| sdague | it would probably take someone a day or two to get to the bottom of it | 21:38 |
| mordred | sdague: maybe it's because nobody should really use postgres in production | 21:38 |
| sdague | well, it wasn't slower in the past | 21:38 |
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| sdague | they used to be the same | 21:39 |
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| anteaya | if someone with +A is feeling generous, carl_baldwin would love this job change for dvr approved: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120603/ 7 +1's and a +2 | 21:39 |
| carl_baldwin | Hi, Neutron would like to move the check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr job from experimental to the check queue (still non-voting). I think this is important to ensure the new DVR feature stays stable. | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | anteaya: You beat me to it. :) | 21:40 |
| anteaya | carl_baldwin: I did | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | I was just going to get the link again when I saw your message pop up. Thanks. | 21:40 |
| anteaya | but thanks for not making a liar out of me | 21:40 |
| anteaya | carl_baldwin: np | 21:40 |
| anteaya | quite the lineup there already | 21:40 |
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| clarkb | sdague: ya its interesting. I wonder if maybe it is related to trusty vs precise | 21:42 |
| sdague | maybe | 21:42 |
| clarkb | sdague: like mysql on trusty kernel is faster and postgres got slower | 21:42 |
| sdague | or something in oslo.db | 21:42 |
| clarkb | ya | 21:42 |
| sdague | there are a lot of variables | 21:43 |
| SlickNik | Hello: Can I please get some requirements folks to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120468/ | 21:43 |
| SlickNik | Need to up the version of python-troveclient so that the horizon panels can use the updated client to enable replication to instances (added in Juno). | 21:43 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 21:43 |
| clarkb | sdague: indeed | 21:43 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Keep environment for cloner in apply test sudo https://review.openstack.org/121641 | 21:43 |
| sdague | SlickNik: so... we don't actually need that change for horizon | 21:44 |
| sdague | their tests are failing for unrelated reasons | 21:44 |
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| fungi | i also don't quite understand why so many people think you need to increase the minimum version of a requirement just to enable some new feature. if the software actually no longer works wit the previous minimum version, that's one thing | 21:46 |
| clarkb | fungi: ++ | 21:46 |
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| sdague | fungi: agreed | 21:47 |
| sdague | I was trying to write that fact down | 21:47 |
| sdague | I should get back to that patch | 21:47 |
| fungi | telling people in the release notes "and hey, if you want to use replication to instances, you should be using troveclient x.y or newer" ought to be plenty fine | 21:47 |
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| fungi | whereas upping the minimum version is actually saying "by the way, if you don't upgrade this then your system is going to fall over and emit puffs of blue smoke" | 21:48 |
| anteaya | clarkb: for reference http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-September/000023.html | 21:48 |
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| anteaya | I would like puffs of blue smoke | 21:48 |
| anteaya | it sounds pretty | 21:48 |
| clarkb | anteaya: ty | 21:49 |
| anteaya | thank you | 21:49 |
| sdague | clarkb: in those graphs it's more interesting that rax is now definitively faster than hp for tempest runs | 21:49 |
| fungi | so-called "magic smoke" | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack/requirements: update to latest oslo libraries - config/i18n/serialization https://review.openstack.org/121681 | 21:49 |
| clarkb | sdague: yup | 21:49 |
| melwitt | clarkb: after installing haveged I get this failure having to do with git account identity. I have my global user.name and user.email set so I'm not sure http://paste.openstack.org/show/111905/ | 21:49 |
| fungi | it normally stays trapped inside microchips and keeps them working, but once you let out the magic smoke, not so much | 21:49 |
| sdague | clarkb: the unit tests are even more obvious with that | 21:49 |
| sdague | http://dague.net/testing/gate-nova-python27.png | 21:50 |
| clarkb | melwitt: that I haven't run into. can you test git init; touch foo; git add foo; git commit really quickly to make sure it is happy? | 21:50 |
| clarkb | sdague: wow | 21:50 |
| anteaya | so fungi clarkb check this vArmour was voting -1, yet they are in the non-voting group: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/270,members | 21:52 |
| anteaya | how can this happen? | 21:52 |
| mtreinish | sdague: that's a really distinct difference... | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add settings.xml parameter to Jenkins slave class https://review.openstack.org/121560 | 21:52 |
| melwitt | clarkb: yeah I can do that fine. tried both in a dir under my homedir and also in a dir under /tmp | 21:53 |
| melwitt | I guess something in the venv can't see the global git config maybe? | 21:54 |
| ianw | anteaya: i'll clear out infra meeting wiki | 21:54 |
| clarkb | melwitt: thats possible though it should inherit | 21:54 |
| anteaya | ianw: thank you | 21:54 |
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| fungi | anteaya: have an example? | 21:55 |
| anteaya | fungi: the three patches in this email: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-September/000023.html | 21:55 |
| clarkb | melwitt: I am not sure what could be going on there | 21:55 |
| melwitt | clarkb: okay, I'll keep messing with it, thanks | 21:56 |
| fungi | anteaya: they're in the voting grou[ | 21:57 |
| fungi | group | 21:57 |
| anteaya | fungi: they seem to be in both the voting and the non-voting | 21:57 |
| anteaya | they sure don't deserve to be in the voting group | 21:57 |
| fungi | anteaya: yes, a while back we stopped including one group in the other | 21:57 |
| anteaya | I have had to turn them off about 4 times in the last few weeks | 21:57 |
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| anteaya | fungi: did we? | 21:58 |
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| fungi | anteaya: i think it was when jeblair was doing all the account renames, he went ahead and copied all the voting accounts into the non-voting group and removed the voting group from being directly included | 21:58 |
| ianw | sdague: can i get your opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120317/ ... if you think move in a different direction i can work on that | 21:58 |
| SlickNik | sdague: sorry, was afk for a bit. | 21:58 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah okay, well first I have heard of it | 21:59 |
| fungi | anteaya: so now all third party ci accounts are present in the third-party group, and additionally any which are voting are also in the voting group | 21:59 |
| clarkb | sdague: should I draft an email about the postgres situation? or si that something you want to tackle? (I know you have tackeld it before with so so results and may not want to bother again so I am happy to do that) | 21:59 |
| anteaya | fungi: so let's remove vArmour from the voting group, because they can't deal with teh responsiblity | 21:59 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah, okay, I will guide myself accordingly, thank you | 22:00 |
| ianw | fungi / clarkb : the postgres puppet released, can we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117397/ (bare-f20 nodes). avoids me having to bring it up at the meeting again :) | 22:00 |
| fungi | anteaya: best to get whatever program requested they have voting privileges to ask to have them removed | 22:00 |
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| clarkb | ianw: /me reviews | 22:00 |
| clarkb | ianw: do we need a change to upgrade to the release? | 22:00 |
| SlickNik | sdague: We don't? I'm not sure I fully understand how that works then. The horizon folks seemed to think that it's something required before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114380/ merges. | 22:00 |
| clarkb | ianw: or did we merge your other change | 22:00 |
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| ianw | clarkb: oh, doh, i thought it pulled the latest. ok, let me get on that | 22:01 |
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| anteaya | fungi: I have left a message with mestery to speak up on the topic | 22:02 |
| fungi | SlickNik: because of the 500 error in tempest.scenario.test_dashboard_basic_ops.TestDashboardBasicOps.test_basic_scenario[dashboard] | 22:02 |
| fungi | ? | 22:02 |
| fungi | SlickNik: KeyError: <SassRule <RuleAncestry (<BlockAtRuleHeader '@keyframes' 'progress-bar-stripes'>,)>, 0 props> | 22:03 |
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| fungi | (from screen-horizon.txt) | 22:03 |
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| jeblair | fungi, anteaya: i think we can add anteaya to a group that owns the voting group so that she can add/remove at will from there (it's only the full account disabling that the gerrit admins would need to do ) | 22:04 |
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| fungi | jeblair: agreed. i can do that now | 22:04 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, mordred: ^ | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add bare-f20 nodes https://review.openstack.org/117397 | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Upgrade to puppetlabs-postgresql 4.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/121685 | 22:05 |
| SlickNik | fungi: I don't think so (I think that is something else) — a reviewer said that they'd like the new requirement added to global-requirements since it wasn't there. | 22:05 |
| fungi | SlickNik: there was not previously an entry for python-troveclient in openstack/requirements:global-requirements.txt? | 22:05 |
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| fungi | SlickNik: i see it in there | 22:06 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thanks | 22:06 |
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| SlickNik | fungi: It's there, but we now depend on a higher version. | 22:06 |
| fungi | SlickNik: maybe they meant you needed to add python-troveclient>=1.0.4 to requirements.txt in horizon? | 22:06 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ++ | 22:07 |
| fungi | SlickNik: does horizon break if python-troveclient 1.0.4 is installed? | 22:07 |
| SlickNik | fungi: yes | 22:07 |
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| fungi | SlickNik: this seems like a bad time to be breaking projects and introducing new dependencies | 22:07 |
| SlickNik | fungi: actually it doesn't currently break, but it will break if that patch merges. | 22:08 |
| SlickNik | fungi: that patch being https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114380/ | 22:09 |
| SlickNik | fungi: So is the solution then to wait until kilo to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114380/ ? | 22:10 |
| anteaya | fungi jeblair what commands to move a ci account into or out of voting group? | 22:10 |
| fungi | SlickNik: well, we're under a requirements freeze, so adding new requirements to horizon may not be possible | 22:10 |
| clarkb | ianw: stack lgtm | 22:10 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: i haven't done it from the cmdline, but this looks like it: https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/cmd-set-members.html | 22:11 |
| fungi | SlickNik: in fact, it looks like horizon already declares a dependency on python-troveclient>=1.0.4 | 22:11 |
| jeblair | anteaya: (you will be able to use the gui or that) | 22:11 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: so probably "ssh review gerrit set-members --add <userid> '\"Name of Group\"'" and i'm sure the quotes are wrong :) | 22:12 |
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| fungi | SlickNik: i'm not sure whether our requirements freeze extends to increasing the versions of clients needed for juno servers to use as libraries but hopefully someone in requirements-core will have a better feel for that | 22:13 |
| mattoliverau | Morning | 22:13 |
| anteaya | jeblair: great thanks, I will read the doc and make mistakes until I figure it out | 22:14 |
| anteaya | mattoliverau: morning | 22:14 |
| SlickNik | fungi: So if global requirements requires python-troveclient>=1.0.4, and horizon requires python-troveclient>=1.0.7, that shouldn't cause issues, right? | 22:14 |
| fungi | SlickNik: it will | 22:14 |
| fungi | SlickNik: from a design perspective making horizon break with an older version of a library that other projects are already using seems unpleasant, but possibly unavoidable if it's an integral feature of horizon | 22:15 |
| * mordred reads backscroll - wants to jump in to this | 22:15 | |
| fungi | SlickNik: how does horizon currently break with older troveclient? | 22:15 |
| fungi | SlickNik: assuming your patch is approved? | 22:16 |
| fungi | SlickNik: i'm guessing by "break" you don't mean that it just doesn't have the option to do replication to an instance | 22:16 |
| mordred | requirements freeze has a built-in exception for openstack libraries | 22:17 |
| SlickNik | fungi: Well, there was a new feature (replication) added in 1.0.7 with a new API parameter (replica_of) to the create call. This doesn't exist in troveclient 1.0.4. | 22:17 |
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| fungi | SlickNik: and all users of juno horizon will be forced to rely on instance replication? | 22:17 |
| fungi | i'm trying to figure out what your definition of "break" is | 22:17 |
| SlickNik | fungi: No it's an optional parameter. | 22:17 |
| fungi | so if you don't install support for the optional feature, the optional feature doesn't work | 22:18 |
| mordred | so the problem is that horizon wants to use a feature taht's exposed only in >=1.0.7 | 22:18 |
| fungi | doesn't sound terribly broken | 22:18 |
| SlickNik | mordred: yup that's exactly it. | 22:18 |
| mordred | fungi: this isn't feature discover enablement - it's that trove in juno has replication feature, and horizon in juno wants to show it | 22:19 |
| mordred | but upgrading _other_ things that use troveclient to a newer troveclietn shouldn't be a problem | 22:19 |
| mordred | what's the problem with bumping the requirement? | 22:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: horizon is broken | 22:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: so it doesn't matter if they want the feature | 22:20 |
| clarkb | at least that was how I parsed | 22:20 |
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| mordred | I'm just trying to get to "what is the problem with bumping the troveclient version?" | 22:20 |
| mordred | it's an openstack library, it has a req freeze exception already - does bumping the version break _other_ things? | 22:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes the problem is horizon should be fixing itself | 22:21 |
| fungi | no idea. apparently the review wasn't going through the reqs repo fast enough, so i wasn't sure if it was because of the requirements freeze | 22:21 |
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| clarkb | not worryin gabout trove | 22:21 |
| mordred | clarkb: no. hang on | 22:21 |
| mordred | that's out of my scope | 22:21 |
| mordred | does bumping the troveclient version in global-requirements break things for some reason/ | 22:21 |
| mordred | ? | 22:21 |
| mordred | because otherwise, it's a completely logical thing to do | 22:21 |
| mordred | because it's what we do | 22:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: it is untestable beyond the install step done by the bump reqs job | 22:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: bceause horizon is now untested | 22:21 |
| mordred | ok. so, what we know is that a) nothing we know is broken by updating a point release of an openstack library in the global-reqs repo | 22:22 |
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| mordred | b) horizon wants to bump the min | 22:22 |
| jeblair | when you say "is now untested" do you mean "is less tested than it was before" or "currently still has very little testing"? | 22:22 |
| mordred | c) we have no other reason to not do so | 22:22 |
| mordred | we are not the police of how projects should code themselves | 22:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: less tested than before. we turned off horizon in tempset or some such because pyscss | 22:23 |
| mordred | right. but does that have anything to do with this? | 22:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes, we cannot test if troveclient breaks horizon or not | 22:23 |
| clarkb | at least not in the gate | 22:23 |
| jeblair | mordred: turn in your code badge and gate gun. | 22:23 |
| david-lyle | clarkb: I have a devstack patch ready to go | 22:23 |
| clarkb | david-lyle: oh good | 22:24 |
| david-lyle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120940/ | 22:24 |
| fungi | in good news, this means that if horizon is pressing for all of openstack to require a newer version of troveclient, we're pretty sure they won't break anyone besides themselves | 22:24 |
| david-lyle | then we should be able to turn Horizon back on | 22:24 |
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| fungi | the only reason i originally started down the path of questioning was to make sure it wasn't merely a matter of "project x has released a new version, we should increase the minimum for it in global requirements now" | 22:25 |
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| mordred | right. because that's not necessary | 22:25 |
| david-lyle | fungi: only when it enables a new feature | 22:25 |
| fungi | and we seem to get rather a lot of those | 22:26 |
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| fungi | david-lyle: well, enables a new feature that some other project will no longer be able to work without | 22:26 |
| david-lyle | but a better answer would be capability discovery, but other than extensions, I don't know of support for that | 22:26 |
| SlickNik | fungi: Nope, I was asking for it because it's needed to enable the new feature in the database control panel in horizon. | 22:26 |
| anteaya | craigbr: just so you know I wasn't ignoring your comments on the first patchset, I just wanted to change things a bit at a time so I understood them | 22:26 |
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| SlickNik | But the gist of what I'm hearing is that we want to make sure that the current horizon works with the new client which we will know only once we fix the horizon issue currently in the gate. Once that's tested, we can bump the version, and then merge the patch that depends on the newer version in horizon. | 22:28 |
| jeblair | SlickNik: i think that would be ideal; but i agree with mordred, i don't think that's _required_ by our current procedure. | 22:29 |
| jeblair | SlickNik: i think if you _can_ do that, it would be the safest course of action | 22:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creates a new repo, project-config https://review.openstack.org/121650 | 22:29 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:30 |
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| fungi | SlickNik: yeah, rechecking either or both of 114380 and 120468 after horizon is back to being more heavily-tested in tempest would hopefully give you some indication | 22:30 |
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| clarkb | david-lyle: looks like folks have tested that devstack patch too. +1 | 22:31 |
| SlickNik | mordred / jeblair: sounds good! | 22:31 |
| SlickNik | And also fungi / clarkb - Thanks for your help. | 22:31 |
| david-lyle | clarkb: ultimately, we're shooting for an upstream fix, but this patch makes the devstack install better inline with most deployments anyway. | 22:32 |
| clarkb | david-lyle: yup | 22:32 |
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| fungi | it's interesting to note that the ci result parsing table has the effect of hiding gate-{name}-requirements jobs because they don't follow the normal success/failure response text | 22:32 |
| jeblair | yeah, we should tweak the regex there | 22:32 |
| SlickNik | fungi: Yes, I noticed that too. | 22:32 |
| SlickNik | jeblair: ++ | 22:32 |
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| fungi | so you don't actually know whether it's incompatible without expanding the ci comments | 22:33 |
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| chair6 | hey folks, quick question about addition of a project to stackforge | 22:37 |
| chair6 | i've created https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119865/, is anything else needed? | 22:37 |
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| anteaya | chair6: patience | 22:38 |
| craigbr | anteaya: No problem. I'm pretty sure my comments on projects.yaml are wrong, anyways. So ignore them | 22:38 |
| anteaya | chair6: the patch is fine as is, to my eyes, we just need 2 core reviewers with tiem to review it | 22:38 |
| chair6 | anteaya: haha, okay, thanks - i'll keep waiting patiently | 22:39 |
| anteaya | craigbr: I appreciate your help, composing a patch is entirely a different mindset than reviewing it, so I'm grateful you are doing such a good job reviewing | 22:39 |
| anteaya | chair6: thank you | 22:39 |
| sdague | fungi: the 500 error was unlrelated IIRC | 22:39 |
| fungi | sdague: yeah, seems that way | 22:40 |
| clarkb | chair6: I don't see those comments | 22:40 |
| sdague | clarkb: I'm not going to give into the pg thing, so feel free to kick off the thread :) | 22:40 |
| fungi | sdague: i think it was the pycss thing | 22:40 |
| sdague | fungi: yep | 22:40 |
| sdague | pycss is not multi process safe with it's caches | 22:40 |
| clarkb | sdague: kk | 22:40 |
| fungi | too fun | 22:40 |
| clarkb | chair6: anyways +2 I think you have what you need | 22:40 |
| clarkb | sdague: the best part is it goes dir already exists I should fail | 22:41 |
| clarkb | sdague: rather than dir already exists, ok I won't create it then :) | 22:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: fail | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add ability to change the slave gerrit user https://review.openstack.org/121695 | 22:42 |
| anteaya | chair6: while you are waiting patiently if you want to learn how to review this kind of patch (which helps to alliviate our workload) craigbr has the basics and could teach you if you are interested | 22:43 |
| anteaya | craigbr: have I spoken out of turn? | 22:43 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove test.sh https://review.openstack.org/121676 | 22:43 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move puppetmaster_boostrap to tools dir https://review.openstack.org/121677 | 22:43 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch infra to new puppet apply job https://review.openstack.org/121675 | 22:43 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 22:44 |
| craigbr | anteaya: Sorry? I don't understand your comment | 22:44 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 22:45 |
| anteaya | craigbr: are you reading to start teaching someone else what you know about reviewing project creation patches? | 22:45 |
| anteaya | fungi: I'm thinking this patch should be merged after the manila rename, what say you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121583/ | 22:46 |
| anteaya | s/reading/ready | 22:46 |
| anteaya | craigbr: I think you are ready, do you agree? | 22:46 |
| craigbr | anteaya: I wouldn't mind but I am overloaded for the sprint we are just starting | 22:47 |
| anteaya | understood | 22:47 |
| craigbr | But I appreciate the vote of confidence | 22:47 |
| anteaya | so as you have time if chair6 does want to learn you can teach what you know | 22:47 |
| anteaya | and I can oversee and fill in gaps if I spot them | 22:47 |
| anteaya | craigbr: you have it | 22:47 |
| fungi | anteaya: meh, we haven't even set a date for the manila rename yet, so i wouldn't want to hold up progress elsewhere. dunno if the docs team needs a more formal buy-off, but i'm inclined to take ajaeger | 22:48 |
| fungi | 's input as representative | 22:48 |
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| anteaya | fungi: very good | 22:48 |
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| craigbr | anteaya: chair6: I will see what I can do in the next sprint | 22:48 |
| fungi | though might not hurt to add annegentle as a requested reviewer on it | 22:48 |
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| anteaya | craigbr: thanks if chair6 is interested, I don't know if (s)he is or is not | 22:49 |
| anteaya | fungi: kk | 22:49 |
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| fungi | mordred: did you have any objections to jeblair's suggestion of putting anteaya in a gerrit group which owns the third-party ci groups so that she can wrangle group membership there? | 22:51 |
| fungi | if not, i'll go ahead and set that up now | 22:51 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: maybe we can talk about 121642 nowish? | 22:51 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: before everyone afks | 22:51 |
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| mordred | fungi: nope | 22:52 |
| mordred | fungi: do it | 22:52 |
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| anteaya | mordred fungi thank you | 22:52 |
| anteaya | I +1'd the manila doc publishing job patch and added anne. I also added a comment reminding folks it is still in the stackforge namespace and though we want to move it haven't scheduled a date for the move yet. | 22:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/infra.yaml#n117 is that just dead code? noticed it while reviewing your stack to use the related job | 22:54 |
| krtaylor | asselin, thanks for the review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118623 I added a comment for the patchset that removed them | 22:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep, will add to my switchover change | 22:56 |
| clarkb | jeblair: great thanks | 22:56 |
| fungi | anteaya: jeblair: clarkb: mordred: i've added a "Third-Party Coordinators" group owned by infra-core with infra-core and anteaya as members, and then set that group as the owner of the "Third-Party CI" and "Voting Third-Party CI" groups | 22:57 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove test.sh https://review.openstack.org/121676 | 22:57 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move puppetmaster_boostrap to tools dir https://review.openstack.org/121677 | 22:57 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch infra to new puppet apply job https://review.openstack.org/121699 | 22:57 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ^ fungi: ++ | 22:57 |
| clarkb | jeblair: thanks | 22:57 |
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| clarkb | fungi: awesome | 22:57 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: jenkins doesn't like the storyboard-puppet-* jobs | 23:00 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think you need to add a job group to that project | 23:01 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: sure | 23:01 |
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| nibalizer | basically do we think we should try to keep 2.7 compatiblity around for a bit to be nice to downstreams or just throw p3 stuff in | 23:01 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair nibalizer so nibalizer has asked that we don't wholesale rip out support for puppet 2.7 in the openstack_project module. | 23:01 |
| nibalizer | well... that makes it sound like i personally need it to not be on p2.7, which is not the case | 23:02 |
| clarkb | I think in openstack_project that is fair game... the other modules should continue to work regardless of what your puppet master is at least for the near future becuase we have been using puppet2.7 since forever | 23:02 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you | 23:02 |
| nibalizer | we do consume infra at hp, but im on that team and we'll be on 3 just as soon as it makes sense | 23:02 |
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| nibalizer | also 2.7 is seriously old, EOL, ESTOPUSING so maybe just going puppet3 and never looking back is the way to go | 23:02 |
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| anteaya | fungi: when I need to do something with my new permissions I'll ask you to make sure I am doing it right | 23:03 |
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| fungi | anteaya: if you like | 23:08 |
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| anteaya | thanks | 23:08 |
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| anteaya | it increases my changes of stopping myself from doing something silly | 23:09 |
| anteaya | doesn't elimnate it though | 23:09 |
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| fungi | clarkb: nibalizer: i do fully expect to see a bunch of third-party operators who have cargo-culted our openstack_project module wandering in here dazed and confused as soon as we merge that, but i think it's unavoidable regardless of scheduling and advance notification | 23:09 |
| clarkb | fungi: ++ | 23:10 |
| nibalizer | okay | 23:10 |
| nibalizer | lets merge it then | 23:10 |
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| * fungi has ceased to be surprised by the number of people who, to this day, mail the -dev list unable to figure out why they're not getting new packages off our abandoned pypi mirror, for example | 23:10 | |
| nibalizer | changed to +1 | 23:10 |
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| lifeless | fungi: have we made it 404 yet? | 23:11 |
| anteaya | fungi: yeah no way of avoiding teh zombie hoard | 23:11 |
| fungi | that reminds me, can we https://review.openstack.org/119465 | 23:12 |
| fungi | lifeless: ^ | 23:12 |
| fungi | though now it's bitrotted and needs rebasing | 23:12 |
| * fungi fixes | 23:12 | |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove pypi mirror from static.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/119466 | 23:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove partial mirror from static.o.o https://review.openstack.org/119465 | 23:14 |
| fungi | oh, though 119466 probably 119465 probably actually needs recursive, purge, force, et cetera to do what it wants... | 23:15 |
| fungi | nibalizer: ^ ? | 23:15 |
| fungi | gah, s/119466 probably// | 23:16 |
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| clarkb | fungi: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121202/ were you able to check that unattended upgrades does the right thing? | 23:16 |
| fungi | 119465 probably actually needs recursive, purge, force, et cetera to do what it wants | 23:16 |
| clarkb | fungi: or is this a we are going to try and find out? | 23:16 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: i agree | 23:17 |
| nibalizer | if you want that to actually do anything yea | 23:17 |
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| nibalizer | otherwise it will cowardly refuse | 23:17 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: can you -1 with the correct syntax? i never can keep them all straight in my head | 23:18 |
| nibalizer | sure | 23:18 |
| fungi | nibalizer: then i'll be happy to respin, or you can upload a corrected version if you prefer | 23:18 |
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| fungi | clarkb: it looks correct based on the release file in their repo, but i didn't read the module to see how it decomposes the origins parameter | 23:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: I thought yo usaid unattended upgrades didn't respect apt pins? | 23:19 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh! that part | 23:19 |
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| clarkb | fungi: that is what I am curious about | 23:19 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yeah, um, i couldn't find any links to what i thought i remembered finding about that long ago, so maybe we just try it and find out | 23:20 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i had a recollection that it refused to upgrade at all, but then i found that one ubuntu bug report saying that it totally disregarded the pin and installed the latest version anyway but the bug hadn't been triaged so... meh | 23:21 |
| nibalizer | fungi: should be able to get away with just ensure => absent, force => true | 23:22 |
| fungi | nibalizer: awesome--thanks | 23:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: fun ok | 23:22 |
| nibalizer | fungi: this is where i go for that https://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html | 23:22 |
| nibalizer | highly reccomend 'puppet type reference' becomes a common search term | 23:22 |
| fungi | purge is for when it's not a puppet-managed tree | 23:22 |
| fungi | ? | 23:22 |
| nibalizer | purge is for when you want these files and only these files there | 23:23 |
| fungi | aha | 23:23 |
| nibalizer | so if you're recursively copying a directory from puppetmaster to puppet client, say, and you want only the files you are managing | 23:23 |
| fungi | i was familiar with the type reference, but still having trouble interpreting all the nuances around directory recursion to the point where i wasn't comfortable with my assumptions | 23:24 |
| nibalizer | yea | 23:24 |
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| fungi | it seems like any time i need to make a directory go away it takes 2-3 tries to get the right combination of options | 23:24 |
| nibalizer | yep | 23:25 |
| fungi | at which point i could have just logged in and deleted it myself ;) | 23:25 |
| nibalizer | managing stuff to be not there is cool though, ensuring state is awesome :) | 23:26 |
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| fungi | here, have some more kool-aid | 23:26 |
| nibalizer | also 3.7.1 released today so i guess we'll get that tonight | 23:26 |
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| fungi | depends on the effects of 121202 i guess | 23:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove pypi mirror from static.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/119466 | 23:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove partial mirror from static.o.o https://review.openstack.org/119465 | 23:30 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: thanks! | 23:31 |
| anteaya | mikal if you are about, I have offered some thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119666/ | 23:31 |
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| mikal | anteaya: /me looks | 23:34 |
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| mikal | anteaya: I replied to your review comment | 23:36 |
| mikal | But happy to chat here as well | 23:36 |
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| mikal | I am explicitly not checking foundation membership, because it needs ot be done at vote generation time anyways | 23:37 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: on 121695 where did the original gitconfig file go? I have that change checked out and it isn't there, but we source that file previously and your change doesn't seem to delete the file | 23:43 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: mostly I am just confused and hoping you know what is going on here | 23:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove test.sh https://review.openstack.org/121676 | 23:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move puppetmaster_boostrap to tools dir https://review.openstack.org/121677 | 23:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch infra to new puppet apply job https://review.openstack.org/121699 | 23:43 |
| fungi | jeblair: fixed brokenness on a couple of those changes ^ | 23:43 |
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| jeblair | fungi: haha, thanks :) | 23:44 |
| fungi | np | 23:45 |
| fungi | i'm +2 on the series now | 23:45 |
| jeblair | oh, the commit msg is fubar | 23:45 |
| jeblair | that was my fault, sorry | 23:45 |
| fungi | on 121677? | 23:46 |
| jeblair | ya | 23:46 |
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| jeblair | i'll fix | 23:46 |
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| fungi | you meant to remove the file but had an old commit message from before you changed your mind i guess | 23:46 |
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| jeblair | er, no, sorry the 1st job | 23:46 |
| jeblair | i had an extra changeid | 23:46 |
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| fungi | aha | 23:46 |
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| fungi | i didn't even spot that issue | 23:46 |
| anteaya | mikal: well that is the point actually of the extra-atc files | 23:47 |
| anteaya | mikal: gerrit knows nothing about co-authored-by | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove test.sh https://review.openstack.org/121676 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move puppetmaster_boostrap to tools dir https://review.openstack.org/121677 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch infra to new puppet apply job https://review.openstack.org/121675 | 23:47 |
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| anteaya | mikal: so the comparison by the gerrit generated list with the foundation membership list (we still don't know how that is going to look) is for those with a commit | 23:48 |
| anteaya | mikal: and then everyone in the extra-atc file is added | 23:48 |
| anteaya | mikal: folks in the extra-atc file are not evaluated for foundation membership via the scripts | 23:48 |
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| fungi | anteaya: mikal: well, when it comes time to generate the voting rolls, i'll be deleting any contributors who are not foundation members after combining the extra-atcs file, but ensuring those are sane beforehand would be good so that i don't delete people unnecessarily | 23:49 |
| anteaya | mikal: since the whole point of extra-atcs is that someone has vouched for them | 23:49 |
| mikal | anteaya: the vouching is at the wrong point in time though | 23:49 |
| anteaya | honestly completely re-writing how we generate electoral rolls less than 2 weeks before we do it is really hard to take | 23:50 |
| mikal | Someone could resign membership post being added to extra-atcs (or their commit for that matter) | 23:50 |
| anteaya | mikal: well resignation is a new twist isnt' it | 23:50 |
| mikal | So I am confused | 23:50 |
| anteaya | with ramifications that were never discussed with me | 23:50 |
| anteaya | yet I have to deal with them | 23:50 |
| mikal | I thought this extra-atcs plan was what was agreed to when I asked how to handle the ironic driver case | 23:50 |
| anteaya | mikal: it was | 23:50 |
| mikal | I am mildly surprised this is controversial now | 23:50 |
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| fungi | mikal: yep. on the other hand if the e-mail address used for the change author doesn't match a gerrit account/foiundation membership, then they'll be removed anyway | 23:50 |
| anteaya | but now you want to add everyone else | 23:50 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: im confused, do you mean i forgot to delete the file? that should be changing it from a file to a template | 23:51 |
| anteaya | mikal: not just the co-authroed by for ironic drivers in nova | 23:51 |
| mikal | anteaya: well, subtle difference, other PTLs started asking me to add other projects | 23:51 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: hrm maybe it is a gertty bug | 23:51 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: but that's actually just me cherry-picking a change mordred wrote long ago that never got proposed upstream | 23:51 |
| mikal | anteaya: I did that bit because I was asked, not because I much care about other project's extra-atcs | 23:51 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: it shows up as a new file with nothing about the old file | 23:51 |
| anteaya | mikal: and some ptls have made their own patches, and confirmed membership. like anne | 23:51 |
| anteaya | mikal: please ask them to submit their own patch | 23:52 |
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| * jesusaurus looks at the patch again | 23:52 | |
| anteaya | mikal: then they are vouching for their people, and they have to confirm membership for the folks they add | 23:52 |
| anteaya | fungi: no kidding | 23:52 |
| anteaya | the resign button fiaso alone is too much | 23:52 |
| anteaya | let alone decidedin now to add in all co-authroed by | 23:52 |
| mikal | Ok, so you don't object to me doing nova, you object to me doign the leg work for other PTLs? | 23:53 |
| anteaya | yes | 23:53 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: git-show tells me im deleting modules/jenkins/files/gitconfig so it may be gertty weirdness | 23:53 |
| anteaya | since you are vouching for nova | 23:53 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: thanks | 23:53 |
| * clarkb tries that too | 23:53 | |
| fungi | anteaya: well, i can't say allowing people to resign their membership is itself a fiasco. we've known since the formation of the foundation that we would be removing some percentage of the members at this point | 23:53 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: there it is. sorry for the noise | 23:53 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: no worries | 23:53 |
| mikal | anteaya: and you preception of the level of vouching is "I have checked that these people are foundation members at the time of patch upload"? | 23:53 |
| anteaya | and other folks, atcs it turns out, need to vouch for whoever's name they offer | 23:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi I am approving that puppet test stack as I rereview them | 23:54 |
| anteaya | fungi: not having a way for the electoral officals to confirm status is the fiasco | 23:54 |
| fungi | mikal: well, i get the feeling there is no confirmation that people listed in those headers were necessarily ever foundation members | 23:54 |
| mikal | fungi: this is true | 23:54 |
| anteaya | fungi: and implementing this 3 weeks prior to the election without any awareness how this affects the elections is frustrating | 23:54 |
| mikal | I am trying to whittle down to a specific set of action items for me | 23:55 |
| mikal | It sounds like | 23:55 |
| mikal | - go back to just doing nova | 23:55 |
| fungi | mikal: whereas for the previous mechanisms we used to confirm the electorate, they were taken from actual gerrit account data rather than claimed info in git repositories | 23:55 |
| mikal | - check the people listed are foundation members before upload | 23:55 |
| mikal | Are those two items sufficient to meet your needs? | 23:55 |
| anteaya | mikal: yes | 23:55 |
| anteaya | and thank you | 23:56 |
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| mikal | Ok, I will do that today | 23:56 |
| anteaya | mikal: and I have no objection to having the script as a patch, but a seperate patch please | 23:56 |
| anteaya | mikal: thank you | 23:56 |
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| mikal | anteaya: what is the URL to check for foundation membership? | 23:57 |
| anteaya | mikal: ha ha ha | 23:57 |
| mikal | Ummm | 23:57 |
| fungi | mikal: anteaya: i'm not actually objecting to the number of people in the list, personally, since i'll be scripting some means of trying to compare them regardless, but it's worth noting that there will likely be quite a few who aren't foundation members (at least not corresponding to the one e-mail address provided in the commit message). for the ironic driver commits there was some indication, it | 23:57 |
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| fungi | sounded like, that those geaders were taken from change owners | 23:57 |
| mikal | Did I just agree to do something impossible? | 23:57 |
| anteaya | mikal: try here: http://www.openstack.org/community/members | 23:57 |
| anteaya | mikal: well I can't do it with certainty yet | 23:57 |
| anteaya | mikal: which is part of my frustration | 23:57 |
| anteaya | mikal: so if you have any pointers, do share | 23:58 |
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| fungi | mikal: basically it's going to boil down to the third-party php development contractor the foundation uses to write the website generating some complex multi-join query which they feed me to indicate who is or was a foundation member on what dates | 23:58 |
| lifeless | fungi: truncated line? | 23:59 |
| lifeless | indication, it | 23:59 |
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| anteaya | and god help me how I deal with people who don't get a ballot who insist they deserve one | 23:59 |
| lifeless | 11:57 < fungi> sounded like, that those geaders were taken from change owners | 23:59 |
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