| fungi | lifeless: no, my client was smart enough to split my comment onto a second line | 00:00 |
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| anteaya | because I haven't figured out how to deal with that yet - with certainty | 00:00 |
| dims | lifeless: did you invoke me? :) | 00:00 |
| anteaya | hey dims | 00:00 |
| dims | hi anteaya | 00:00 |
| jroll | anteaya: is there something wrong with "show me your contribution and I'll give you a ballot" for those? | 00:00 |
| anteaya | you haven't been invoked in a while | 00:00 |
| lifeless | dims: i did not | 00:00 |
| anteaya | jroll: yes, that was the old system | 00:00 |
| lifeless | dims: lazy copy-pate :) | 00:00 |
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| fungi | jroll: that's what i'm proposing we move to for all voters next cycle | 00:01 |
| dims | lifeless: hehe | 00:01 |
| anteaya | jroll: now since they can resign their membership I now have to validate they were a member during specific dates | 00:01 |
| jroll | anteaya: ugh :/ | 00:01 |
| anteaya | and while I might be able to validate they are there if they are, I don't know how to validate they are not there if they are not | 00:01 |
| anteaya | jroll: now you get it | 00:01 |
| anteaya | whereas I can when it was just gerrit | 00:02 |
| anteaya | when on and on with some person who insisted they could vote last round | 00:02 |
| anteaya | told them 5 different time they were ineligible, kept coming back insisting they were | 00:02 |
| fungi | anteaya: to be fair, the queries we used to gess this from gerrit were also not 100% accurate since they depended on the change owner hopefully being the commit author, which reasonably often still isn't the case | 00:02 |
| anteaya | I *could* prove they were not last time, I don't know how to this time | 00:02 |
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| anteaya | fungi: I put it on them to provide me a sha | 00:03 |
| mikal | So... I think I cans cript the foundation membership check as long as the check is by name not email address | 00:03 |
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| anteaya | and the shas provided were for abandoned patches | 00:03 |
| mikal | http://www.openstack.org/community/members/results?mq=michael+still&locale=en_US&action_getResults=Go 302 redirects to a profile if the person is a member | 00:03 |
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| anteaya | mikal: if there is only one person with that name, that might work | 00:04 |
| mikal | Do we have an example of a resigned member I could check? | 00:04 |
| jroll | mikal: then you'll run into mike vs michael etc, I bet | 00:04 |
| anteaya | jroll: you guessed it | 00:04 |
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| mikal | Not much I can do about that | 00:04 |
| anteaya | mikal: I have no idea, foundation doesn't give me that information | 00:04 |
| * jroll is never sure if he is registered as jim or james in certain places | 00:04 | |
| fungi | people named michael who spell their name mikal | 00:04 |
| jroll | hehe | 00:04 |
| anteaya | jroll: yup | 00:04 |
| mordred | jesusaurus: new lesson - when you pick up patches that I wrote, you USUALLY have to rewrite them | 00:04 |
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| anteaya | or people who can't be bothered to get a password reset link and just make up a new profile | 00:05 |
| jroll | fungi: then there's my friend micheal (yes e before a), where he is the only person that can spell his name | 00:05 |
| fungi | pretty awesome | 00:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: should we worry about this new ossn at all? | 00:05 |
| clarkb | they are just test nodes getting floating ips so maybe not | 00:05 |
| jesusaurus | mordred: very true, but this was a simple one | 00:06 |
| mordred | jesusaurus: the simplest ones are the ones that kill yo | 00:06 |
| mikal | Sigh | 00:07 |
| mikal | I am starting to feel like this is all too hard | 00:07 |
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| anteaya | mikal: yup | 00:07 |
| jroll | mikal: everything is hard, let's go drink beer | 00:07 |
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| anteaya | mikal: so the other thing you can do, is email all your nova folks and tell them if they want to be extra atcs for nova they need to send you an email with a link to their foundation profile | 00:08 |
| anteaya | and based on dhellmann's comment on your patch hes if find the edge cases in scripting the scraping of the foundation website too | 00:09 |
| fungi | i'm to the point where i think if we're going to build automated systems to determine whether someone's an eligible voter for a program, we should provide an opt-in interface where they can register to vote (which then checks their individual eligibility for a program election on the backend) | 00:09 |
| jroll | mikal: where's that extra atc patch? | 00:09 |
| anteaya | it isn't the majority I am worried about, it is the edge cases, the ones the scripts miss | 00:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: agreed and there is lots of data out there saying opt in vote by mail(remotely systems of some sort) work really well | 00:10 |
| jroll | mikal: I'm willing to bet most of them are easy finds, and there's only a couple to verify | 00:10 |
| jroll | (most are ironic contributors already) | 00:10 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb that doesn't help us this round, but do offer it after the eleciton season since it will take all of a release at least to square with the charter | 00:10 |
| fungi | i'm a little worried about tying technical voting to anything in the foundation member database right now, since we are an open project and currently there is nothing open about the system managing and tracking that data | 00:11 |
| anteaya | fungi: me too | 00:11 |
| anteaya | but it is in the charter | 00:11 |
| jroll | mikal: gah, maybe not, that's a lot of extra ATCs | 00:11 |
| anteaya | and I can't change it 2 weeks before elections start | 00:11 |
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| fungi | though i'm probably just going to grip tightly to my grass skirt and hope we can all safely hula through | 00:12 |
| anteaya | fungi: go you | 00:13 |
| anteaya | pluto goes direct on the 23rd so one more week to go | 00:13 |
| jogo | here are some raw recheck numbers from nova: http://paste.openstack.org/show/111954/ | 00:14 |
| anteaya | and jogo the squirrel is here to distract us with data | 00:14 |
| anteaya | thanks jogo :D | 00:14 |
| fungi | anteaya: mikal: though perhaps one option is for the tc to pass a resolution stating that for this election it's going to ignore the possibility that contributors may have renounced their foundation citizenship, for the purposes of determining eligible voters? | 00:15 |
| anteaya | can we get lines of code in there somewhere? | 00:15 |
| anteaya | fungi: do propose, the tc agenda has been drawn up tomorrow and we only have tomorrow's meeting and one more before election season kicks off | 00:16 |
| anteaya | we can't change the rules for the roll after sept 26 | 00:16 |
| anteaya | fungi: good luck | 00:16 |
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| jogo | anteaya: anteaya this is number of rechecks I don't *think* LOC is relevant for this | 00:16 |
| fungi | might carry more weight if proposed by an actual tc member (which i am not). i'm willing to just try and make it work | 00:17 |
| anteaya | jogo: okay | 00:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: well you have mikal and perhaps mordred to convince | 00:17 |
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| anteaya | but I am disappointed that election buisness is not higher on tomorrow's tc agenda | 00:17 |
| jogo | anteaya: which is to say not sure how to get LOC yet | 00:17 |
| anteaya | but I hadn't mentioned to ttx raising its place in the agenda, so he probably isn't aware of how I feel | 00:18 |
| anteaya | jogo: ah | 00:18 |
| fungi | oh, there are plenty of tc members sleeping in this channel, but anyway i plan to just try to power through with what we have and come up with better solutions for next cycle as soon as possible once this one is behind us | 00:18 |
| anteaya | jogo: thanks for the honesty, it is refreshing | 00:18 |
| anteaya | and I am still tying my boat to being in compliance with the charter | 00:19 |
| jogo | anteaya: np :) | 00:19 |
| anteaya | though I do have a drowning feeling through doing so | 00:19 |
| anteaya | jogo: can you sort by recheck number? | 00:20 |
| jogo | anteaya: yeah, right now I am trying to figure out how to best slice the data | 00:20 |
| jogo | it is sorted by merge time | 00:20 |
| anteaya | jogo: k, slice away | 00:20 |
| jogo | most recent patches at the top | 00:20 |
| anteaya | ah, okay | 00:21 |
| fungi | clarkb: that ossn has no real implications for us. it's more of a "zomg i removed the floating ip for my sooper-sensitive server and people who were connected through it stayed connected" | 00:21 |
| clarkb | jogo: I think you can get the diff stats fro mgerrit api, but I may be mistaken. worst case you fetch change and diff it directly | 00:21 |
| jogo | anteaya: I am thinking (#of rechecks)/(# of revisions) | 00:21 |
| arosen | fungi: clarkb do you guys know if nodepool has anything in it to figure out / avoid bad image snapshots? | 00:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: well it doesn't seem to make a statement as too what actually happens just that a thing happens | 00:21 |
| anteaya | I can't wait to see how that looks | 00:21 |
| jogo | clarkb: yeah I am sure there is a way, just haven't dug in yet | 00:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: if the image build process fails (returns 1 or api 500s etc) then it ditched the image | 00:22 |
| clarkb | er arosen ^ | 00:22 |
| arosen | From time to time it seems like we have an infra problem where the snapshot that gets recreated results in a grub error. Though it doesn't always happen. | 00:22 |
| clarkb | arosen: so you acn add checks in that do that | 00:22 |
| arosen | clarkb: unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an api error :( | 00:22 |
| fungi | arosen: it has bash errorexit and some attempts at interpreting puppet detailed exit codes | 00:22 |
| jogo | I am a little surprised by how many revisions a patch has | 00:22 |
| arosen | it seems like everything works but when the image is used the vm is just stuck hanging on grub with image not found. | 00:22 |
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| clarkb | arosen: I would try removing our fix grub script from your builds to see if that fixes you | 00:23 |
| clarkb | arosen: since we do mess with grub in the images | 00:23 |
| clarkb | then we can work from there if that does indeed fix it | 00:23 |
| arosen | clarkb: can you point me to where i'd need to do that? | 00:23 |
| clarkb | arosen: yup one sec | 00:23 |
| arosen | clarkb: the weird thing is it seems to work 60% of the time. | 00:23 |
| fungi | arosen: there's been some discussion around having an acceptance test option in nodepool for images (we had one for devstack-gate back when it did the image management itself), but support has not been implemented | 00:24 |
| arosen | i haven't tried to debug this from the underlying infrastructure yet though. | 00:24 |
| clarkb | arosen: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/nodepool/scripts/restrict_memory.sh is the script that does it. just comment out or delete calls to it in the other scripts | 00:25 |
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| clarkb | or comment out the script contents I suppose | 00:25 |
| fungi | also worth noting, back when devstack-gate ran devstack as an image acceptance test, it was not the most reliable (fraught with false negatives because of openstack bugs encountered by devstack) | 00:25 |
| arosen | clarkb: as in line 29-31? | 00:25 |
| arosen | i mean 21-31 | 00:25 |
| clarkb | arosen: and the stuff above it | 00:25 |
| anteaya | I am going to try being not on the computer for a while | 00:25 |
| clarkb | arosen: both sets. they handle grub 1 and grub 2 | 00:26 |
| arosen | k | 00:26 |
| arosen | done | 00:26 |
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| mikal | anteaya / fungi: so... | 00:31 |
| mikal | anteaya: what if I used git commits to incubated / graduated repos as a test of foundation membership? | 00:31 |
| mikal | anteaya: its as flawed as the electrol role system now | 00:31 |
| fungi | mikal: you'd want to compare them to the change owner which i think gerrit reflects in the git notes | 00:32 |
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| jroll | that seems pretty wrong | 00:32 |
| jroll | (the incubated/graduated check) | 00:32 |
| mikal | fungi: well, when jenkins merges you get the original author in the merged commit, right? | 00:32 |
| fungi | huh, actually change owner is not in the git notes for a change | 00:33 |
| fungi | mikal: in the git commit metadata you get information on what the "author" of te last patchset was (which probably hasn't been changed since the first patchset but isn't actually required to be a gerrit account and therefore not required to be a foundation member) and also the committer for the most recent patchset (who is guaranteed to be a gerrit account/foundation member but not guaranteed to be | 00:34 |
| fungi | the originator/owner of the change) | 00:34 |
| fungi | so if you can find the e-mail address in committer fields for recent changes then it should be a foundation member | 00:35 |
| fungi | as long as that's all you're trying to match up | 00:35 |
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| mikal | fungi: I get the email address in the merged commit too. Or is that what yuo're talking about? | 00:39 |
| jogo | I take it someone already noticed zuul is reporting Queue lengths: 862 events, 48 results. | 00:40 |
| jogo | fungi: ^ | 00:40 |
| fungi | mikal: if you look at git log --pretty=fuller you'll see there are two people associated with a commit (often the same, but not guaranteed to be) | 00:40 |
| fungi | jogo: merge-check | 00:41 |
| mikal | Sigh | 00:41 |
| jogo | fungi: ? its empty | 00:41 |
| mikal | I am so close on rage quitting on this | 00:41 |
| fungi | mikal: yeah, the voter eligibility requirements are sort of abstract and not grounded in the reality of the data we have | 00:42 |
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| fungi | mikal: we had more or less worked out a reasonable compromise based on scraping data from sources we had and letting people who felt they were omitted letting us know so we could add them, but now we've introduced a distinct risk that we'll authorize ineligible voters (because foundation memberships are finally expiring) | 00:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix attribute error state if node not found https://review.openstack.org/121721 | 00:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikhil Manchanda proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create a trove-specs repository https://review.openstack.org/121457 | 00:56 |
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| mordred | fungi: can I propose something? | 00:59 |
| lifeless | mordred: can you? | 01:00 |
| mordred | lifeless: can I? | 01:00 |
| mordred | fungi: since foundation membership has no qualification, rather than requring membership for commits and votes - what if commiting were one of the methods you could sign up for membership | 01:00 |
| mordred | fungi: it's no more or less insane than a web form randomly | 01:01 |
| mordred | so any subsequent commit would re-up you | 01:01 |
| mordred | so since you have to be an ATC to vote, we know that everyone has commited in the last year | 01:01 |
| mordred | ipso facto - it'snot possible to have inelligible voters in an ATC-base election | 01:02 |
| fungi | mordred: sounds sane to me, though i suppose it could be abused by someone committing under lots of different names, the same could hold true now with additional member profiles | 01:02 |
| mordred | well, for our elections we're condorcet - so ballot stuffing is way harder | 01:02 |
| lifeless | sybil for ever! | 01:03 |
| mordred | I guess in a single project PTL ... | 01:03 |
| mikal | fungi: well, commits are already hand reviewed | 01:03 |
| fungi | that too. and board elections don't care about atc status anyway | 01:03 |
| mordred | fungi: yah. I'm only talkin gabout ours | 01:03 |
| mikal | Surely we'd notice someone branch stacking? | 01:03 |
| mordred | the "I signed up on the website and ignore it" folks should have the same old procedure | 01:03 |
| mordred | mikal: also, can you imagine building cred in nova for 10 different people from scratch? | 01:04 |
| fungi | if the tc has the power to decide that without going before the board and modifying foundation documents, i recommend just making a proclamation | 01:04 |
| mikal | mordred: omg, I can't even do it for one... | 01:04 |
| fungi | i'd be willing to back any assertion that because the foundation member system is not open it's inscrutable and unfit for being considered as technical election criteria | 01:06 |
| fungi | and that we'll just make do with what we have (git commit data) | 01:06 |
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| mordred | fungi: ++ | 01:07 |
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| fungi | basically that's what we did up until now, the current crisis (if it is one) is around people who would have qualified as atcs ceasing to be foundation members because they didn't vote in board elections | 01:09 |
| mikal | Do we require them to be foundation members to commit code? | 01:09 |
| mikal | Should we be revoking CLAs? | 01:09 |
| fungi | and voting in a board election to remain eligible to vote in tc and ptl elections is sort of a silly requirement | 01:09 |
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| fungi | mikal: technical we have no real reason to require foundation membership to commit code under the cla, but we have inadvertently built a system that enforces that they are at the time they first sign the cla | 01:10 |
| fungi | which many of us would like to fix | 01:10 |
| mordred | mikal: we could also all rage quite and move to an island | 01:11 |
| fungi | the main problems being that severing that tie makes it harder to confirm they're foundation members for technical election purposes and for free summit passes | 01:11 |
| mikal | mordred: please send me a brochure for said island | 01:12 |
| fungi | i think the summit pass problem is more tractable that the voter eligibility one | 01:12 |
| fungi | er, than | 01:12 |
| mordred | fungi: I believe they're both solved | 01:12 |
| mikal | Given we treat summit discount codes like party favours anyway | 01:12 |
| mordred | an ATC must start off as a Foundation Member | 01:12 |
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| mordred | an inactive foundation member must only "express interest" in having their status continue | 01:13 |
| mordred | a commit is an active interest | 01:13 |
| fungi | mikal: you could move to my island. i'm sure the local chamber of commerce can furnish me with plenty of brochures to forward along | 01:13 |
| mordred | therefore, any commit comes from a person asserting that they are a foundation member by definition making them an active foundation member | 01:13 |
| mikal | fungi: is your island in America? | 01:13 |
| fungi | mikal: technically, yes. bummer | 01:13 |
| mordred | this means ATC and summit pass and voting can all be solved purely from gerrit | 01:14 |
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| mikal | So how does the openid thing play into this? | 01:14 |
| mikal | Its the long term proposed solution, right? | 01:14 |
| mordred | not really | 01:15 |
| mordred | it doesn't solve a ton | 01:15 |
| mordred | other than != launchpad | 01:15 |
| fungi | mikal: the long-term idea is that you have an openstack systems account which gerrit authenticates against and which the foundation member database also links to | 01:15 |
| mikal | Ok | 01:15 |
| mikal | I thought it was the longer term membership db thing as well | 01:15 |
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| fungi | so it ideally provides a unique mapping between gettit accounts and foundation membership, though in actuality it doesn't prevent the multiple accounts problem if they abandon and sign up again | 01:16 |
| fungi | s/gettit/gerrit/ | 01:16 |
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| fungi | but that way everyone who uses our openid-authenticated systems has an openstack systems account, which may or may not have one and only one foundation membership associated with it, which may be active or inactive at any point in time | 01:17 |
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| tchaypo | so my gertty seems to be sad, it has a whole bunch of changes where it has no owner (and comments with no author and so on) | 01:18 |
| tchaypo | is there anyway I can prod it into re-downloading data about those changes, or do i need to blow away my db and start again? | 01:19 |
| fungi | basically it arises by making the foundation membership system also authenticate against the same registry as the other systems. so a strong coupling as opposed to the weak correlation we try to assemble presently | 01:19 |
| fungi | tchaypo: did it get into that situation following an upgrade, or just spontaneously? | 01:19 |
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| tchaypo | unknown. There were certainly upgrades before I noticed it, but I don't know how long it's been in that state | 01:20 |
| tchaypo | I think it's been sitting there for a while - I've been avoiding looking at the particular change that i see most often, because looking at it crashes gertty | 01:22 |
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| fungi | tchaypo: which change and are you running the most recent point release? i think there was a fix for crashing on certain non-ascii data in fields which shouldn't have had non-ascii data in them but might anyway because internets | 01:25 |
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| fungi | yeah, https://review.openstack.org/119410 merged after the 1.0.0 release | 01:27 |
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| fungi | so if you didn't upgrade to 1.0.1 or later that's a likely cause of change-specific crashes | 01:27 |
| mikal | fungi: what would you think about extra-atcs output like this? http://paste.openstack.org/show/111982/ | 01:28 |
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| tchaypo | Fwiw I've been running from trunk rather than a released version | 01:29 |
| tchaypo | And I've been toying with various patches applied on top | 01:29 |
| mikal | anteaya: ^--- (but I suspect you've wandered off) | 01:29 |
| fungi | mikal: right now the script parses that file line-by-line, so while that might work, some sort of standardized structure like yaml would still be better | 01:29 |
| fungi | it already has to grok yaml since it uses the programs.yaml file to figure out which projects belong to what programs | 01:30 |
| mikal | I agree | 01:30 |
| mikal | I felt like tweaking the file format was a step too far though | 01:30 |
| mikal | Given the level of pain this relatively simple thign has already caused | 01:30 |
| mikal | What I am trying to provide is an audit log of how I decided they were an "eligible voter" | 01:31 |
| fungi | mikal: well, if there were some declaration that we could ignore the foundation member database for technical elections then i would just build a database of related e-mail addresses based on what people had as primary/alternate addresses in their gerrit accounts and then just scrape author fields and co-authored-by headers out of commit messages | 01:32 |
| mikal | While I like that plan... | 01:33 |
| fungi | (build an ephemeral database as an in-memory dict that is) | 01:33 |
| mikal | Regardless, the curent status quo is I can use a commit in the past as a measure of if they've _ever_ been a foundation member, yes? | 01:33 |
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| fungi | mikal: i think so, yes. if there are any corner cases, they'll be rare | 01:34 |
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| mikal | And pre-existing | 01:34 |
| mikal | i.e. the current voter process already suffers from those | 01:34 |
| fungi | thinks like committers on imported project repositories where the project managers should have confirmed icla had been signed by all previous committers but missed one | 01:35 |
| fungi | and yeah, possibly would also have gotten picked up in the current implementation anyway | 01:36 |
| fungi | so modulo changing the actual file structure substantially, what you have there should be fine and i can tweak the current script to do something with that | 01:36 |
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| mikal | Ok, I have gone and hand checked the foundation profile id for each of the ones needing hand verification as well | 01:40 |
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| fungi | mikal: thanks, that'll be a big help. hopefully that satisfies anteaya's desire to be able to cross-check them in the event of a dispute | 01:41 |
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| fungi | mikal: the point i was trying to make before, which i hopefully was clear enough on, is that if this were *simply* a matter of scraping git commit messages to populate co-author lists then i'd just make the current script do that for us and be done with it | 01:44 |
| mikal | fungi: so, my secret agenda is that I've been asking for something like this for a year | 01:45 |
| mikal | So if I have to flail to get my authors recognized by the system, then so be it | 01:45 |
| mikal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119666 has the new version now | 01:45 |
| fungi | thanks | 01:45 |
| fungi | and yeah, perhaps it's something we can strive to get clarified in the appropriate documents such that we can eventually do just that | 01:46 |
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| mordred | fungi: or pictures of cats | 01:46 |
| fungi | mordred: yes, with funny captions. the very underpinnings of the internet itself | 01:47 |
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| tchaypo | So I'm assuming it's probably not something worth chasing as a bug in Gertty, it's probably caused (or at least exacerbated by) the unusual way I'm using it | 01:49 |
| tchaypo | I think I should just go ahead and nuke the db and let it pull everything down again | 01:49 |
| fungi | tchaypo: are you running 1.0.2? | 01:49 |
| fungi | oh, you said trunk | 01:50 |
| fungi | i totally missed your later comments | 01:50 |
| tchaypo | :) | 01:50 |
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| fungi | trunk last sync'd how recently? | 01:51 |
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| tchaypo | Yesterday or the day before | 02:10 |
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| anteaya | mikal back now I needed a bit of a break | 02:19 |
| anteaya | mikal: your patch is the height of loveliness | 02:20 |
| anteaya | mikal: it is the most beautiful thing i have seen in several days | 02:20 |
| mikal | anteaya: LOL | 02:20 |
| anteaya | mikal: it is indeed the exact thing to allay my concerns | 02:20 |
| mikal | anteaya: ok, so good. As long as it meets your needs I am happy. | 02:20 |
| anteaya | it does very much | 02:20 |
| mikal | Excellent | 02:21 |
| anteaya | please be very happy | 02:21 |
| mikal | I shall eat the lunch of the victor then | 02:21 |
| anteaya | I will comment to that effect on the patch | 02:21 |
| mikal | (Lentil pasta is clearly the lunch of winners) | 02:21 |
| anteaya | mikal: if you need more lunch, go ahead I guess | 02:21 |
| anteaya | mikal: it is | 02:21 |
| mikal | Heh, I haven't gotten as far as lunch yet... Too disorganized. | 02:21 |
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| anteaya | mikal: well I am sure I didn't help matters but I am so very grateful | 02:23 |
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| anteaya | mikal: I commented | 02:23 |
| anteaya | fungi: I would so back you backing this assertion -> i'd be willing to back any assertion that because the foundation member system is not open it's inscrutable and unfit | 02:28 |
| anteaya | for being considered as technical election criteria | 02:28 |
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| anteaya | oh and if rage quitting were an option I would have been gone some time ago | 02:29 |
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| mikal | So, its probably too late to fix voting for Kilo | 02:29 |
| mikal | But we should attack it early in Kilo so Lemming is right | 02:30 |
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| anteaya | mikal: I am all for limping along through kilo as long as my heart still believes we are in compliance with the tc charter and having a full on rearrangement of how we do things for elections and how to get the structure in place to make that happen | 02:34 |
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| anteaya | I have no horse in the race about what the structure is as long as it is documented so elections can be conducted in compliance with it | 02:35 |
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| morganfainberg | so.. i have a random question someone here might provide me some insight on... | 02:48 |
| morganfainberg | not so random actually | 02:48 |
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| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119452 - this is a replacement for the memcache lib with something that doesn't leak resources to the point where you could run ourt of FDs, however, it assumes eventlet and multuple threads (works single threaded but no real benefit to testing it single threaded) | 02:49 |
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| SlickNik | anteaya: Updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121457 as per the suggestions. Thanks for the reviews! | 02:50 |
| morganfainberg | i'm trying to figure out the best way to test the threading fixes ... any... uh.. suggestions? its not something i typically have tried to test (multiple worker capable code) in the OpenStack test suites | 02:50 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: I think nova has worker thread tests | 02:51 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: you might grep around in that tree? | 02:51 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, i'll go hunting. | 02:51 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, thanks | 02:51 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: I want to say they have artifical sequencing points where you can check specific behaviors | 02:52 |
| SlickNik | Would also appreciate some core eyeballs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121457/ when folks get a chance, thanks! | 02:52 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, yeah i'm dealing with dealing with inter-thread communication and locking (save me) | 02:52 |
| anteaya | SlickNik: thank you | 02:52 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, but basically memcache + eventlet = bad bad bad bad bad news | 02:52 |
| morganfainberg | python-memcached is not even close to eventlet safe | 02:53 |
| morganfainberg | s/memcached/memcache | 02:53 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: figured I could sell you on "new-project" :D | 03:08 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: I don't think we need tarballs for specs | 03:09 |
| anteaya | SlickNik: sorry I didn't notice it before | 03:10 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: yeah, so I am -1 on the tarballs line and +1 on everything else | 03:15 |
| anteaya | and I am calling it a night | 03:15 |
| anteaya | it is a night | 03:15 |
| anteaya | g'night | 03:15 |
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| krotscheck | Evening hack night, go! | 03:52 |
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| jogo | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html hasn't updated in a few days | 04:58 |
| jogo | last update 2014-09-13T20:50 | 04:58 |
| jogo | clarkb: ^ | 04:58 |
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| clarkb | jogo k. I just got internets up in new place can look tomorrow | 05:08 |
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| jogo | clarkb: new place in portland? | 05:16 |
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| clarkb | yup | 05:17 |
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| flaper87 | SergeyLukjanov: fungi jeblair hey guys, do you think we can move this forward? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120437/ | 11:03 |
| flaper87 | I haven't hat a chance to manual test this | 11:03 |
| flaper87 | I've been meaning to, FWIW. | 11:03 |
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| kashyap | ttx, Nicely expressed about the 25% chunks discussion of bugs across IRC channels. | 11:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for multi-module maven jobs https://review.openstack.org/121811 | 11:23 |
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| kim_ | My CI system advertise "Build succeeded." on a commit from branch that it should not check at all...does any one have any idea why? | 11:27 |
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| marun | sdague: hi! | 11:33 |
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| chmouel | hello any ideas how come that bug got assigned to me https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1365105 (without me asking) ? | 11:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1365105 in devstack "grenade fails to upgrade keystone when mod wsgi is enabled" [Undecided,In progress] | 11:33 |
| marun | sdague: I have a few questions about improving devstack support for functional testing when you have a moment. | 11:34 |
| marun | sdague: Namely the best way to install dependencies only, and how to install both postgres and mysql to support db-specific migration testing. | 11:34 |
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| rcarrillocruz | zaro: hi there, i pushed a change for multimodule maven jobs, appreciate if you could review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121811/1 | 11:48 |
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| HeOS | Hi to all! What about https://review.openstack.org/120747 and https://review.openstack.org/117199 ? | 12:19 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, fungi, clarkb, mordred, I'm on vacation now and will be traveling to CA tomorrow, so, unable to attend today's meeting | 12:29 |
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| kim_ | My CI system advertise "Build succeeded." on a commit from branch that it should not check at all...does any one have any idea why? | 13:02 |
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| fungi | kim_: i'd need to see the change it commented on and a copy of your layout.yaml file | 13:21 |
| fungi | SergeyLukjanov: thanks for the heads up, and enjoy your vacation | 13:21 |
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| fungi | lovely... jenkins06 has died | 13:27 |
| kim_ | fungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/112153/ | 13:27 |
| kim_ | fungi: Thanks | 13:27 |
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| fungi | #status log jenkins ran out of jvm memory on jenkins06 at 01:42:20 http://paste.openstack.org/show/112155/ | 13:38 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished logging | 13:38 |
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| fungi | judging from http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=1456&rra_id=all the system was just shy of 13g active memory when it died | 13:40 |
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| fungi | luckily we don't *appear* to have any hung jobs from it | 13:41 |
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| fungi | kim_: do you have a link to the non-master-branch change on which your system commented? | 13:43 |
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| kim_ | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120159/ | 13:49 |
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| fungi | kim_: is it possible that you've overridden it in local_functions.py(set_log_path)? | 13:58 |
| fungi | kim_: another possibility is that perhaps the branch filter gets ignored if a files filter is used | 13:58 |
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| kim_ | fungi: I do not think that set_log_path override my filter policy | 14:02 |
| fungi | kim_: in that case it may be a bug/limitation when combining a branch filter with a files filter | 14:03 |
| kim_ | fungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/112169/ | 14:03 |
| fungi | kim_: yeah, your set_log_path() looks pretty normal so i don't think it's involved | 14:03 |
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| kim_ | fungi: You think that there is a bug? in zuul? I do not see any mantion for such a bug in the web | 14:04 |
| fungi | kim_: right, i mean you may have just discovered a new bug | 14:04 |
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| fungi | i'll see if i can write a regression test to confirm | 14:05 |
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| kim_ | fungi: The most strange, it works fine when I configre the manager from: IndependentPipelineManager to: DependentPipelineManager | 14:08 |
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| fungi | kim_: oh! i see what's going on | 14:12 |
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| fungi | kim_: job filters prevent a particular job from being run, but they don't prevent zuul from acting on and commenting on a change | 14:13 |
| kim_ | fungi: job filter=branch+file filter? | 14:14 |
| fungi | kim_: if you look at the comment zuul left on the stable branch change and compare it to a comment it left on a master branch change, you'll see that on the stable change it successfully ran no tests and reported as much | 14:14 |
| fungi | kim_: i think you need some sort of pipeline filter rather than a job filter | 14:15 |
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| kim_ | fungi: By job filter you mean branch + file filter? | 14:18 |
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| fungi | kim_: see the trigger gerrit branch option documented in http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/zuul.html#pipelines | 14:19 |
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| fungi | kim_: it doesn't appear we have a similar option to filter pipeline triggers on change file patterns though, so you might be stuck leaving empty reports on changes which don't touch any files matching your job files filter | 14:20 |
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| fungi | kim_: or you could submit a feature to zuul for a gerrit files pipeline trigger | 14:21 |
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| kim_ | fungi: but when I eliminate the files filter section by delete the files section from layout.yaml I still have the same issue... | 14:25 |
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| fungi | kim_: yes, that's a separate problem | 14:27 |
| fungi | kim_: to avoid reporting on stable branch changes, you need to add a branch filter to the gerrit trigger in your pipeline | 14:27 |
| fungi | kim_: per the documentation i linked above | 14:28 |
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| jeblair | mika: no there isn't a way to submit with gertty. i think we would need a schema change to add a pending submit action, then a new sync action to actually send it. not too hard, but not quite trivial. | 14:31 |
| jeblair | mika: (we don't use submit with openstack (our CI system is the only user who can submit), so that wasn't high on my list for the first version) | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Allow specifying a config file https://review.openstack.org/121393 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Fix some username related problems https://review.openstack.org/121394 | 14:45 |
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| anteaya | kim_: which ci is yours? | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Associate orphan messages with revision 1 https://review.openstack.org/121395 | 14:45 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: mellanox | 14:46 |
| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: safe travels | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Handle variable labels in change list https://review.openstack.org/121396 | 14:47 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thanks | 14:47 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: had a question inline on 119266 | 14:48 |
| anteaya | I'm still looking to talk to the vArmour ci folks | 14:48 |
| kim_ | anteaya: We aew from Mellanox | 14:50 |
| kim_ | fungi: thanks | 14:50 |
| anteaya | kim_: thank you | 14:52 |
| anteaya | kim_: thanks for investigating what your system is doing | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Remove old projects yaml jobs https://review.openstack.org/116688 | 14:53 |
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| kim_ | anteaya: :) | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | kim_: no really most people wait for their system to be disabled before they ask any questions, I didn't know your system was doing this so good work, I am impressed | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Jordan OMara proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload support https://review.openstack.org/120101 | 14:56 |
| anteaya | now your system *is* currently disabled but for other reasons | 14:56 |
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| fungi | it's worth noting that the lack of a files option for pipeline triggers in zuul is probably something we'd be glad to support if someone wrote up the patches to add and test it, we just haven't needed to maintain file-specific pipelines in our production environment and so never implemented it | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | fungi: would that be worthy of a bug, so then I can post the url in third party meetings? | 14:58 |
| anteaya | I can file the bug if you think so | 14:58 |
| kim_ | anteaya: We are dedicate for CI and ask question mainly when we are enable | 14:59 |
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| fungi | feature request | 14:59 |
| anteaya | fungi: feature request in lp or storyboard? | 14:59 |
| anteaya | kim_: great, well asking questions anytime is wonderful - thank you | 15:00 |
| anteaya | kim_: can you ever attend the third party meetings that happen on Mondays at 1800 UTC? | 15:00 |
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| fungi | anteaya: looks like lp still? the zuul bugs don't seem to be primarily in sb yet | 15:02 |
| kim_ | anteaya: I attendees this meeting all the times (omrim) I have been at the meeting last night.. | 15:02 |
| anteaya | fungi: kk, thanks | 15:03 |
| anteaya | kim_: ah I didn't realize you also were omrim | 15:03 |
| anteaya | kim_: and yes, you do attend and thank you | 15:03 |
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| kim_ | anteaya: I validate my fix in my CI playground and it works, can you enable Mellanox CI system? | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | kim_: well mellanox working wasn't the issue, the issue if I recall was voting too many times - which you have demonstrated you will address by following a different process when you backup your servers in future and not having urls to logs in your comments | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikolay Fedotov proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Remove hardcoded root path of a jenkins node https://review.openstack.org/121896 | 15:10 |
| anteaya | kim_: do you have urls to test logs in your comments now? | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | launchpad server appears cranky | 15:12 |
| kim_ | anteaya: Yes | 15:12 |
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| kim_ | anteaya: I will explain what was wrong in the email you sent me so everyone will have this knowledge too... | 15:13 |
| anteaya | fungi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zuul/+bug/1370105 | 15:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1370105 in zuul "feature request: gerrit files option for pipeline triggers" [Undecided,New] | 15:13 |
| anteaya | kim_: thank you I appreciate this | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | fungi: if you would be so kind: 9732 mellanox Mellanox CI mlnx-openstack-ci@dev.mellanox.co.il | 15:14 |
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| fungi | anteaya: kim_: re-activated | 15:17 |
| kim_ | anteaya: Thanks | 15:17 |
| kim_ | fungi: thanks | 15:17 |
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| anteaya | kim_: please show me the url of a patch that your system comments on so I can confirm the url is in the comments and the logs are browsable | 15:20 |
| anteaya | the url for your test logs is in the comment | 15:21 |
| anteaya | fungi: I have added the url for the zuul feature request in next week's third party meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#09.2F22.2F14 | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | fungi: have you time to look at this patch which moves a dvr test job to the check queue? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120603/ 8 +1's and a +2 | 15:24 |
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| kim_ | anteaya: I will send you when I have results for all branches it will take a hour or two.. | 15:26 |
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| jogo | got my first number, over the last 400 merged patches in nova we have done 0.67 rechecks/reverifies per patch revision | 15:29 |
| anteaya | kim_: thanks | 15:30 |
| anteaya | jogo: interesting | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Add check for ref being a string before applying regex https://review.openstack.org/116577 | 15:31 |
| anteaya | jogo: any idea how many of those were initiated when the code was actually breaking things but the dev didnt' look at the logs to find out? | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | versus those initiated because the vm failed to buiid for instance | 15:32 |
| jogo | anteaya: no idea | 15:32 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:32 |
| anteaya | so two factors in that number | 15:32 |
| jogo | anteaya: but good question, my *hunch* is that is a minority case | 15:32 |
| anteaya | 1) legitimate system failurs | 15:32 |
| anteaya | 2) poor dev habits | 15:32 |
| anteaya | well you went digging to aliviate hunches | 15:33 |
| jogo | anteaya: so how do I sort the two cases out? | 15:33 |
| anteaya | which was the motivation for this as of yesterday | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | jogo: that is a very good question | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | well one would be if the same error hit a patch series more than once | 15:33 |
| sdague | did somone kill git ? | 15:33 |
| anteaya | for instance | 15:33 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit renders for me | 15:34 |
| jeblair | jogo: at least one job failure in common on both sides of a recheck (all for the same patchset) suggests someone did a blind recheck on a bug their patch introduced. | 15:34 |
| jogo | anteaya: I can't easily detect what the error was | 15:34 |
| anteaya | sdague: what are you seeing | 15:34 |
| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/81/120781/6/check/gate-nova-pep8/6f676c1/console.html | 15:34 |
| sdague | 100% of all my tests on that change failed | 15:34 |
| jogo | jeblair: yeah I like that, thanks | 15:34 |
| jeblair | sdague: cloning from git.o.o works for me | 15:34 |
| anteaya | sdague: when was that from? | 15:35 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120781/ | 15:35 |
| sdague | very recently | 15:35 |
| anteaya | sdague: jenkis06 fell over not long ago | 15:35 |
| sdague | an across the board failure | 15:35 |
| jeblair | sdague: that's from hpcloud-b1; where were the other failures from? | 15:35 |
| anteaya | sdague: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Status | 15:36 |
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| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/81/120781/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/94a79a9/console.html b2 | 15:36 |
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| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/81/120781/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow/e7f7fcb/console.html b5 | 15:36 |
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| jeblair | sdague: so an across-the-board hp, rax, or Internet networking issue | 15:36 |
| jeblair | sdague: or an issue with git.o.o (the load balancer) | 15:37 |
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| sdague | I see b4 | 15:37 |
| jeblair | all 5 git servers and the lb work for me atm. | 15:37 |
| sdague | I didn't see a rax node in the fails, b1, b2, b4, b5 | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Rename doc environment to docs https://review.openstack.org/119911 | 15:37 |
| sdague | anything recorded on the git side? | 15:38 |
| jeblair | sdague: was there a rax node that succeeded? | 15:38 |
| sdague | jeblair: yes | 15:38 |
| sdague | yeh, the 2 successes were on rax | 15:38 |
| jeblair | http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&local_graph_id=862&rra_id=0&view_type=tree&graph_start=1410877161&graph_end=1410877790&graph_height=120&graph_width=500&title_font_size=10 | 15:38 |
| sdague | all of the git servers in rax? | 15:38 |
| jeblair | git.o.o's traffic doubled from 150 to 300mbps around that time | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Error on duplicate job names being found https://review.openstack.org/56734 | 15:38 |
| jeblair | sdague: yes | 15:39 |
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| pelix | zaro: think I've caught the various possible duplicate situations for projects with the above change, but the tests added probably need to be checked just to make sure I haven't missed something! | 15:39 |
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| sdague | ok, well I'll just recheck | 15:40 |
| sdague | the across the board made me wonder if it was a longer running issue | 15:40 |
| jeblair | http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=125 | 15:41 |
| jeblair | git05 has some gaps; it may have been kicked out of the lb | 15:41 |
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| sdague | fungi: I think I'm giving up on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117609/ | 15:53 |
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| sdague | too many clients updated things that aren't back in havana | 15:54 |
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| sdague | jeblair: yep... still failing - http://logs.openstack.org/82/120782/7/check/gate-nova-pep8/d932ce0/console.html | 16:00 |
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| zaro | pelix: cool. will take a look. | 16:01 |
| sdague | oh, sorry, that was just delayed email getting to me | 16:01 |
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| fungi | sdague: well, also, havana is about to get put down | 16:04 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: tx- will look at 119266 right now. | 16:04 |
| sdague | fungi: yeh | 16:04 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119266/4/storyboard/notifications/publisher.py - I’m not quite getting the context there, could you explain the python things I’m not getting there? | 16:07 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: sorry, be back in 5 mins | 16:09 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: No worries, I’m sitting in a keynote. | 16:09 |
| daya_k | fungi, anteaya: quick reminder to consider my request to re-enable ibm sdnve ci | 16:09 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: so first thing: i think there's a bug in gertty and a comment i left is missing. that's very disturbing and i will fix asap. | 16:15 |
| anteaya | daya_k: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-September/000008.html do you have browsable logs? | 16:15 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: That makes more sense :) | 16:15 |
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| daya_k | anteaya : yes, in my email i have a link with an example, | 16:16 |
| daya_k | anteaya : http://sng01.objectstorage.softlayer.net/v1/AUTH_bbc5e0c7-0d10-46a0-a57a-29607ab57956/sdnve-openstack-neutron-plugin/1843/ | 16:16 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: the missing comment, which i have replaced, is about using a list instead of a set | 16:16 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: "Should this be a list instead of a set (which is unordered) so that the queued messages are still sent in the original order?" | 16:16 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: as the "_pending" attribute | 16:17 |
| anteaya | daya_k: nope, I was just prompted to download apache_config | 16:17 |
| anteaya | daya_k: on firefox | 16:17 |
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| daya_k | anteaya : yeah that one seems to have slipped through, is that a req to have the apache config? | 16:18 |
| daya_k | anteaya : its a file of size 0, i'll look at removing it from the upload if its not required | 16:19 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: And that gives context to the second comment, excellent. | 16:19 |
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| anteaya | daya_k: what repos are you testing? | 16:20 |
| anteaya | daya_k: rabbitmq | 16:21 |
| daya_k | anteaya : meaning what triggers ? openstack/neutron on master, icehouse and havana | 16:21 |
| daya_k | yeah, thats also always been 0, also the sudoers.d file. i left it as is from devstack-gate cleanup, but i havent seen any content in it. | 16:22 |
| daya_k | anteaya : since they are all 0, can i just not upload these? | 16:23 |
| anteaya | daya_k: you have to ask neutron | 16:24 |
| anteaya | daya_k: neutron decides what files they want to see | 16:24 |
| anteaya | I just need to ensure that was is available is browsable | 16:24 |
| pleia2 | I have a short connection during the meeting today (chaos!), but I'll be home tomorrow :) | 16:24 |
| anteaya | pleia2: yay | 16:24 |
| anteaya | pleia2: how are you doing? | 16:24 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: doing well, thanks | 16:25 |
| anteaya | pleia2: how is flordia | 16:25 |
| pleia2 | so hot! | 16:25 |
| anteaya | Canada isn't | 16:25 |
| anteaya | :D | 16:25 |
| pleia2 | I hear there has been snow! | 16:25 |
| daya_k | anteaya : they are not on the neutron third party wiki - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronThirdPartyTesting#Log_.26_Test_Results_Filesystem_Layout | 16:25 |
| anteaya | out west yes | 16:25 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:25 | |
| anteaya | daya_k: good investigation | 16:25 |
| anteaya | daya_k: ensure you have all logs required in the wiki then | 16:25 |
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| anteaya | daya_k: then link me to another sample | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Make JJB python 3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/118703 | 16:26 |
| daya_k | anteaya : ok, will do, thanks | 16:26 |
| anteaya | daya_k: thank you | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Only consider tags that look like versions. https://review.openstack.org/114403 | 16:29 |
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| pelix | @zaro does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118312/ look good? PMD publisher | 16:33 |
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| clarkb | o/ | 16:40 |
| fungi | u can haz internets | 16:40 |
| anteaya | hey clarkb | 16:40 |
| * anteaya mind now says clarkb brisket | 16:41 | |
| clarkb | fungi: I haz internets | 16:41 |
| clarkb | fungi: its amazing but I somehow managed to work around comcasts wait 5 business days deal | 16:41 |
| anteaya | yay internets | 16:42 |
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| fungi | clarkb: come to north carolina--they don't even make you wait that long to buy a gun ;) | 16:42 |
| clarkb | the trick is get a modem yourself and have all the cables you need. sign up pay $10 for the install kit that takes 5 business days to arrive then immediately call them with your new account number and set up on your modem | 16:42 |
| clarkb | apparently there is no way to say don't send me the thing I don't need | 16:43 |
| * anteaya notes to stay away from north carolina | 16:44 | |
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| fungi | anteaya: yeah, i don't recommend it for the most part | 16:44 |
| fungi | anteaya: except it contains awesome people like olaph and Shrews | 16:44 |
| clarkb | best part is all of my packets still go through seattle | 16:44 |
| anteaya | fungi: I might reconsider for the awesome people then | 16:45 |
| anteaya | clarkb: they miss it apparently | 16:45 |
| anteaya | like breadcrumbs from hansel and gretel | 16:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: just as well. most of your mail will be going through seattle for a while too | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags https://review.openstack.org/63580 | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Retain user specified order of post build scripts https://review.openstack.org/118170 | 16:47 |
| clarkb | fungi: so I don't expect https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120228/ to make it into juno | 16:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: if only because its rootwrap and handlign all the pythons is a little bit of work | 16:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: any thoughts on that? swithing in juno would be sooooo nice though :/ | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Retain user specified order of post build scripts https://review.openstack.org/118170 | 16:48 |
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| fungi | clarkb: makes sense... might be saner to not support py3k in rootwrap until it can be addressed. that would allow us to press forward with dropping the py33 custom hackery | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ya thats a thought. would need to check if any of the servers support py3k and depend on rootwrap though | 16:49 |
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| jeblair | adam_g: in 112134 you say it needs to be coordinated with 115803; 803 is WIP -- what's the story? | 16:50 |
| jeblair | adam_g: oh, it looks like 134 needs to merge first then 803, yeah? | 16:51 |
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| HeOS | folks, merge please https://review.openstack.org/120747 and https://review.openstack.org/117199? :) | 16:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: do we have changes to switch pypy over yet? I suppose that required new images I should check we have those | 16:52 |
| fungi | clarkb: i believe the change hasn't merged to add it to images yet | 16:53 |
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| clarkb | fungi: oh right we got busy with puppet | 16:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: though 120906 so at least all the projects should work on trusty for now | 16:53 |
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| fungi | er, though 120906 merged | 16:53 |
| fungi | (your zaqar fix) | 16:53 |
| fungi | s/fix/workaround/ | 16:53 |
| clarkb | HeOS: 120747 is approved. looks like it may have gotten lost by zuul yesterday? in any case a recheck should send it through the gate and merge if it passes | 16:54 |
| fungi | odd for an event like that to go missing... checking zuul's logs to find out why | 16:55 |
| fungi | oh! i bet i know | 16:56 |
| fungi | check result not new enough, so not considered | 16:56 |
| fungi | i guessed wrong | 16:57 |
| fungi | http://paste.openstack.org/show/112236/ | 16:57 |
| fungi | checking gerrit logs now to see if it blew up | 16:57 |
| clarkb | HeOS: for the jeepyb change, will that continue to work with the version of gerrit we have deployed? | 16:58 |
| rfolco | could somebody help me understand if upstream images have cached git repos for the tested project while running devstack-gate jobs ? | 16:59 |
| clarkb | HeOS: I wonder if jeepyb should check the gerrit version and switch behavior based on that | 16:59 |
| fungi | rfolco: yes, they do | 16:59 |
| jeblair | rfolco: yes, but they are updated at the start of the job | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | HeOS: gerritlib has a get gerrit version call that works on gerrit >=2.5 iirc | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: wrappers: fixed locks for empty collection https://review.openstack.org/107091 | 16:59 |
| fungi | rfolco: the instances boot from snapshots with repositories usually no more than a day out of date, and then update the remaining delta when a job runs | 17:00 |
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| rfolco | thanks jeblair and fungi... one more: is devstack deployed while the job runs (on prepare_node_devstack) ? | 17:00 |
| HeOS | clarkb, is you version 2.8.4-15-g6dc8444? | 17:00 |
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| fungi | rfolco: yes, devstack's setup runs at the start of the job, via a set of scripts in the devstack-gate project | 17:01 |
| fungi | rfolco: prepare_node_devstack.sh is not run ion the context of a job | 17:01 |
| clarkb | HeOS: yes, but we also have users running 2.4 | 17:01 |
| fungi | rfolco: that is run to pre-cache files and packages devstack might need when nodepool builds images for it | 17:01 |
| clarkb | HeOS: I left my question in a comment on the change | 17:02 |
| rfolco | fungi, I am just trying to understand what I should include in the image, what nodepool does, and what the job devstack-gate does | 17:02 |
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| adam_g | jeblair, yea, that is correct | 17:03 |
| HeOS | clarkb, thanks, i will investigate this question tomorrow. :) | 17:03 |
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| fungi | rfolco: basically nodepool's prep scripts collect anything which can safely be provided ahead of time which devstack is likely to need and cache those in the snapshot, then devstack itself installs and uses those local caches as long as they're still relevant (for example, if ubuntu package versions on the mirrors haven't changed since they were cached on disk) | 17:03 |
| clarkb | HeOS: thank you for helping us fix this bug | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | jogo: ok I am looking at uncategorized thing now | 17:04 |
| HeOS | clarkb, :) It's the fun for me. :) | 17:04 |
| rfolco | fungi, thanks for clarifying. | 17:05 |
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| clarkb | jogo: according to the timestamp on the file on the server it updated ~45 minutes ago | 17:06 |
| rfolco | fungi, something is going wrong with my cached repos, its making confusion with refs for the projects... http://paste.openstack.org/show/112238/ | 17:06 |
| clarkb | jogo: maybe you cached an old version and we should set a shorter ttl on that file? | 17:06 |
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| clarkb | jogo: more specifics would help. let me know if you have them | 17:07 |
| clarkb | of course someone may have fixed it early this morning and I am just derping | 17:07 |
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| rfolco | fungi, L106 fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/zuul/master/Z8a8e82072d324931ae960c7c81fa93ba | 17:07 |
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| rfolco | fungi, this should be nova's patch ref, not devstack-gate... | 17:07 |
| fungi | rfolco: in case it's running in a dependent pipeline, devstack-gate trues to get the zuul_ref for all projects it's using | 17:08 |
| fungi | er, tries | 17:08 |
| fungi | okay, so here's what went wrong in gerrit which caused zuul not to enqueue that approved change: http://paste.openstack.org/show/112239/ | 17:08 |
| adam_g | jeblair, any chance you might hit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118700/ while you're looking at ironic things? | 17:08 |
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| clarkb | fungi: nice | 17:09 |
| jroll | oh, are we looking at ironic things? /me has some patches | 17:09 |
| jeblair | adam_g: it's 2 changes further down in my list :) | 17:09 |
| clarkb | fungi: so jdbc and externally hosted mysql had a disagreement | 17:09 |
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| fungi | i guess we'll be on the lookout for more of those just in case, but probably not much else we should do for now | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move puppetmaster_boostrap to tools dir https://review.openstack.org/121677 | 17:10 |
| jroll | jeblair: if you don't mind adding these to your list :) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/devstack-gate+branch:master+topic:ironic-agent,n,z | 17:10 |
| adam_g | jeblair, :) | 17:10 |
| jeblair | jroll: my list is generated automatically by gertty :) | 17:11 |
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| jroll | jeblair: heh, ok, thought you might be on an ironic kick :P | 17:12 |
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| jroll | they are small, I promise! :P | 17:12 |
| jeblair | jroll: they are somewhere near position 100 out of 225 | 17:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: I assume jeblair should get to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118859/ today then we can rebuild images and move pypy as soon as possible | 17:13 |
| jroll | heh | 17:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: it's right after adam_g's :) | 17:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: woot | 17:14 |
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| fungi | clarkb: sure. that switch ought to be fair game. i'll whip up the (very trivial) patch for it | 17:15 |
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| jeblair | fungi: remind me why we have special workers for py3k and why we don't need them for py34? | 17:17 |
| fungi | jeblair: primarily because we didn't want to install unofficial packages on our normal precise workers, but also because at the time we were still relying on puppet to install distro-provided packages for things like pip and tox and they were designed to be interpreter-specific | 17:19 |
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| fungi | recall that precise had python 3.2, so we needed a backport ppa for 3.3 | 17:20 |
| clarkb | also didn't we use ppa for pypy because precise didn't have it or it was really really old | 17:20 |
| jeblair | fungi: do we do any 'pip install foo' with puppet on slaves? | 17:21 |
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| fungi | the pypy package in precise was also deemed too old to be suitable (extremely buggy preview release apparently) | 17:21 |
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| fungi | jeblair: if we do, it will install them into the import path of the default python interpreter so having other interpreters present doesn't break that | 17:22 |
| clarkb | I think we can probably collapse the two python unittest slave images | 17:23 |
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| fungi | jeblair: and for py34/pypy jobs they ought to be getting all their python libraries via tox in a venv rather than from the system install path | 17:23 |
| clarkb | (is that what jeblair is getting to?) | 17:23 |
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| fungi | collapse which two python unit test slave images? | 17:23 |
| jeblair | yeah, just trying to understand what to expect :) | 17:24 |
| fungi | if you mean get rid of the py3k images, yes that's the point of this exercise | 17:24 |
| jeblair | fungi: will 27 still be the default interpreter? | 17:24 |
| fungi | jeblair: yes, in fact if you log into one of our bare-trusty nodes you'll see they already have python3.4 installed by default | 17:24 |
| jeblair | fungi, clarkb: and finally, do you want me to aprv that change now? | 17:24 |
| jeblair | hey it's even on my workstation :) | 17:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yup. fwiw upstream Python says make python3.x python3 in the default path so that python2 doesn't break | 17:25 |
| clarkb | and python2 continues to be `python` | 17:25 |
| fungi | that change is mostly to get the dev headers and also to be explicit about teh fact that we're using 3.4 rather than just relying on it happening to be preinstalled | 17:25 |
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| clarkb | arch does not do this and apparently gentoo does something more like /etc/alternatives to switc between them | 17:25 |
| jeblair | aprvd | 17:25 |
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| fungi | and to pull in pypy and its dev headers too | 17:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ty | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Start running all PyPy jobs on Ubuntu Trusty https://review.openstack.org/121931 | 17:29 |
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| clarkb | jogo: please see comment on 121343 | 17:30 |
| clarkb | er 121242 | 17:30 |
| jeblair | fungi: in 119203 why did you put '.git' on the end of the repo url? | 17:30 |
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| fungi | jeblair: out of habit when canonicalizing the URLs. i thought .git suffix was typical to denote that it's a bare repo | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mikhail S Medvedev proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Disambiguate filename:<file> from tag:<file> in query guidelines https://review.openstack.org/121908 | 17:32 |
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| jeblair | fungi: otoh, we don't actually recommend anyone do that when cloning from our servers (it's kind of user-unfriendly) | 17:33 |
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| fungi | i'm happy to format git urls in whatever way has the greatest consensus/consistency | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add Python 3.4 and PyPy to Ubuntu Trusty slaves https://review.openstack.org/118859 | 17:35 |
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| clarkb | bknudson: re 116404 I do not see apache logs in the logs collected by the check jobs. Do you know why that is happening? | 17:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use git farm for layout job cloning https://review.openstack.org/119203 | 17:36 |
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| clarkb | bknudson: that change should be self testing | 17:36 |
| jeblair | it's clearly not a big deal, i just don't really want people to think that the git farm requires that and is therefore less friendly than github | 17:36 |
| fungi | makes sense | 17:36 |
| bknudson | clarkb: this is a launchpad bug? | 17:36 |
| fungi | image and perception are important | 17:36 |
| clarkb | bknudson: no sorry, the change | 17:36 |
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| jeblair | sdague: can you review 119332 please? | 17:37 |
| bknudson | clarkb: I was requested to make this change when I posted a change to devstack to log keystone in apache... let me find it. | 17:37 |
| bknudson | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116133/ -- see the comment by ianw | 17:38 |
| clarkb | bknudson: not questioning why you wrote it, pointing out it doesn't seem to work as intended and i am not immediately sure why | 17:39 |
| bknudson | clarkb: ah... let me poke around... I'm not sure what I should be looking at since not familiar with it... but I assume I should find something in the tempest logs now. | 17:39 |
| clarkb | bknudson: in the job logs yes | 17:40 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Extend trigger_builds functionality https://review.openstack.org/91051 | 17:40 |
| clarkb | oh there it is http://logs.openstack.org/04/116404/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/4c995ff/logs/devstack-gate-cleanup-host.txt.gz#_2014-09-10_22_19_57_224 | 17:40 |
| clarkb | bknudson: I think it is /var/log/apache on ubuntun and /var/log/httpd on fedora. | 17:41 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: crap | 17:41 |
| clarkb | bknudson: however the fedora job didn't seem to grab them either | 17:41 |
| clarkb | so maybe other issues there | 17:41 |
| bknudson | clarkb: so it's got the fedora correct? | 17:41 |
| clarkb | er wait no it is apach2 | 17:42 |
| clarkb | I am confused now | 17:42 |
| bknudson | clarkb: my system has /var/log/apache2 | 17:42 |
| clarkb | bknudson: no it didn't get fedora either /me logs into a test box | 17:42 |
| bknudson | clarkb: and it's running with sudo, but it looks like it has the filename in '' | 17:42 |
| clarkb | bknudson: I will poke around on some test nodes and see if I can get a better answer | 17:43 |
| bknudson | clarkb: if I can't use * then I'll just put the logs I need | 17:43 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: I assume the code worked before, and the horizon_error.log was saved... | 17:44 |
| clarkb | ya I think it did but I don't tend to look at jobs that closely so I could be completely wrong | 17:44 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: this one has horizon_error.txt.gz, so that must have been working: http://logs.openstack.org/12/119512/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/6b7320b/logs/ | 17:45 |
| clarkb | bknudson: I think you may be right. the * glob isn't being expanded for some reason | 17:45 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: looking at the logs generated, I think we're already getting everything due to the changes in devstack. | 17:48 |
| bknudson | clarkb: so I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116404 can be abandoned. | 17:48 |
| clarkb | bknudson: oh so we get them anyways? have a link? | 17:48 |
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| bknudson | if you look here: http://logs.openstack.org/04/116404/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/4c995ff/logs/ -- it's got screen-key.txt.gz screen-key-access.txt.gz | 17:49 |
| clarkb | bknudson: those are the screen logs though not the apache keystone logs unless I am mistaken | 17:49 |
| bknudson | clarkb: the point of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116404 was to pick up the keystone access log. | 17:49 |
| bknudson | clarkb: the screen logs are tail -f of the apache logs. | 17:50 |
| clarkb | bknudson: oh ok | 17:50 |
| clarkb | then yes I think that change can be abandoned, unless you prefer to grab te logs directly rather than tail-f | 17:50 |
| bknudson | so I'm just going to abandon 116404. I didn't realize that would happen. | 17:50 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: Sorry, I should have been looking myself to see if the logs were actually getting collected. I just assumed it worked. | 17:52 |
| clarkb | bknudson: np, this is why we have code review :) | 17:52 |
| sdague | jeblair: sure, so honestly like I said yesterday, I don't see any value in the pg jobs. They are slow and no one is looking into them. So adding more seems.... odd. | 17:53 |
| clarkb | ya I hope to stash those graphs somewhere then send mail about it today | 17:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: krotscheck should 97521 be abandoned? | 17:58 |
| clarkb | or WIP'd? | 17:58 |
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| * krotscheck is ambivalent. SergeyLukjanov? | 17:59 | |
| krotscheck | clarkb: If not enough people want it strongly, It should be abandoned. Otherwise, the people who want it should take ownership. | 18:00 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I have added a link to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121650/ under the config repo split priority item on today's meeting agenda | 18:00 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: I'm pulling pretty recent log file names from logstash and get File Not Found like with http://logs.openstack.org/81/120781/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/8f480f0/console.html | 18:03 |
| dkranz | clarkb: Is there a known problem with this? | 18:03 |
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| fungi | jogo: oh, since i saw your comments in scrollback about elastic recheck overnight i looked into it this morning | 18:03 |
| dkranz | clarkb: This log file was from 9/11 | 18:03 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: that link is just missing a .gz on the end... | 18:04 |
| clarkb | dkranz: what query are you using? | 18:05 |
| clarkb | oh you mean logs.o.o failed | 18:05 |
| clarkb | ya thats a thing that osloganalyze broke | 18:05 |
| dkranz | mtreinish, clarkb : thanks guys | 18:05 |
| fungi | jogo: for some reason it, at one point, started to dogpile cron runs (i think the first of them was hung and holding back the rest) so status.o.o had 512 e-r processes waiting. i killed them all, ran it by hand as the recheck user, it worked fine, and the cron runs since seem to terminate normally | 18:05 |
| clarkb | previously apache would serve you the file but now osloganalyse needs to check if the compressed file is available | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | fungi: thanks. I saw this morning that the files were up to date and figured someone may have fixed it | 18:06 |
| fungi | i'll keep an eye out for any recurrences and see if i can narrow down what triggers that, if possible | 18:07 |
| anteaya | I'm looking to confirm openstack/config has no tags (apparently git filter branch does interesting things with tags) I have searched in the log for the message "tag" and can't see any tags in the results: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/log/?qt=grep&q=tag | 18:07 |
| anteaya | how else can I confirm config has no tags? | 18:07 |
| clarkb | anteaya: run `git tag` | 18:07 |
| anteaya | kk | 18:07 |
| clarkb | empty output means no tags | 18:07 |
| anteaya | empty output | 18:07 |
| fungi | it should return nothing. you can compare to, for example, python-novaclient which should have lots | 18:07 |
| anteaya | thank you | 18:07 |
| anteaya | kk | 18:07 |
| fungi | also you can compare it to other projects in cgit's webui. the refs summary normally lists any tags if present | 18:08 |
| anteaya | I had a copy of python-neutronclient handy, and it too has many tags | 18:08 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:08 |
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| * anteaya checks the refs in the gui | 18:08 | |
| anteaya | I see them, thank you | 18:09 |
| * anteaya goes back to git filter branch docs | 18:09 | |
| fungi | anteaya: yeah, cgit appears to omit the "tag" list in the summary if there are none | 18:09 |
| anteaya | I see the same | 18:09 |
| adam_g | clarkb, any chance you can hit this if you get a sec? your +2 from last week fell off at some point: https://review.openstack.org/112134 | 18:10 |
| jeblair | anteaya: thanks | 18:11 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: sure, that patch is mostly at the stage to ensure I have the tests correct, then I need to practice filter branch and figure out where to put the filtered repo so manage-projects can consume it | 18:13 |
| anteaya | but we can save that for meeting if you prefer | 18:13 |
| clarkb | adam_g: done | 18:14 |
| clarkb | anteaya: usually throwing things on github is fine | 18:14 |
| clarkb | anteaya: but any other publicly accessible git repo will work too | 18:14 |
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| anteaya | okay I can do that | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Lazarev proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Bump sahara client to 0.7.2 https://review.openstack.org/121942 | 18:17 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i have a screen session going as root on nodepool now with all the bare-trusty images updating in separate windows, fyi | 18:18 |
| Adri2000 | anyone familiar with the wiki can explain why the level 2 title in there https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC appear before the first table when it should be before the second table? | 18:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: great | 18:18 |
| adam_g | clarkb, thanks! if you're feeling charitable, this should help finish off our sideways testing until we make it voting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118700/ | 18:18 |
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| anteaya | Adri2000: hi | 18:20 |
| Adri2000 | hi anteaya | 18:20 |
| anteaya | Adri2000: so you want to create a seperate table for non-english irc channel? | 18:20 |
| anteaya | channels | 18:20 |
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| Adri2000 | anteaya: yes, what do you think? | 18:20 |
| Adri2000 | I suppose we'll see more channels than just the french one in the near future | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Remove partial mirror from static.o.o https://review.openstack.org/119465 | 18:21 |
| anteaya | well I am not a wiki expert by any means | 18:21 |
| anteaya | but honestly I would just add it to the original table | 18:21 |
| anteaya | and state that it is the french language channel | 18:21 |
| anteaya | then people can be in that channel if they want | 18:21 |
| anteaya | same as they can be in this channel if they want to talk about infrastruture matters | 18:22 |
| anteaya | I think creating a language division will inspire people to create divisions based on other categories | 18:22 |
| anteaya | to the extent that the page will become complex and hinder its usefulness | 18:23 |
| anteaya | those are my thoughts | 18:23 |
| fungi | rax-ord update failed on an ssh timeout. awesome | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Consolidate and rename Ironic jobs https://review.openstack.org/112134 | 18:26 |
| Adri2000 | anteaya: well, ok, let's do that for now and maybe reconsider when we have more channels like this (-fr is the first to be added to infra). the idea was to have a list for "topic" channels and a list for "language" channels, that's where I see a difference | 18:26 |
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| anteaya | that is your choice | 18:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Set docimpact-group for ceilometer and trove https://review.openstack.org/119546 | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Adding Bandit project to StackForge https://review.openstack.org/119865 | 18:30 |
| clarkb | adam_g: that change just got a note from zuul saying it needs a rebase | 18:30 |
| adam_g | clarkb, oh party, thanks | 18:30 |
| clarkb | but I was reviewing it :) | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds support for Ironic parallel Tempest testing https://review.openstack.org/118700 | 18:35 |
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| clarkb | adam_g: you left merge tags in at least one file :P | 18:36 |
| sandywalsh | jeblair: thanks for the +2's! | 18:36 |
| adam_g | clarkb, yeah.. fixing now | 18:36 |
| jeblair | sandywalsh: np :) thanks for the projects :) | 18:37 |
| sandywalsh | :) | 18:37 |
| ekarlso | phschwartz: you around boss ? | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add settings.xml parameter to Jenkins slave class https://review.openstack.org/121560 | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr to check queue https://review.openstack.org/120603 | 18:40 |
| fungi | clarkb: did you see zaro's response to your comment on 88432 (back in may)? | 18:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds support for Ironic parallel Tempest testing https://review.openstack.org/118700 | 18:42 |
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| clarkb | fungi: pretty sure jeblair put those overrides in place because it was too noisy | 18:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: that change really confused me and Ithink the -1 is still appropriate | 18:43 |
| clarkb | we do gigabytes of logs with gearman at debug level iirc | 18:43 |
| fungi | oh, right | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Allow puppet to be automatically upgraded https://review.openstack.org/121202 | 18:44 |
| fungi | grr, new project approvals killed most of the running image updates | 18:45 |
| zaro | fungi, clarkb : it's been a while, but what i remember is jeblair requested that we turn up gearman logging. don't remember why anymore though. | 18:45 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh sorry | 18:45 |
| jeblair | fungi: why were image updates running? | 18:45 |
| fungi | jeblair: refreshing bare-trusty for pypy packages | 18:46 |
| fungi | jeblair: to accommodate https://review.openstack.org/121931 | 18:46 |
| fungi | anyway, not a huge deal. i always forget that new project approvals smack nodepool image updates until i cause them | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Drop 90 servers from rax-dfw" https://review.openstack.org/121210 | 18:47 |
| anteaya | fungi: why is that? | 18:47 |
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| jeblair | fungi: well, i'm trying to work through a 2 week review backlog. i could just not aprv anything, but i'm not sure that's a good idea. | 18:48 |
| fungi | we iterate over a list of projects to clone, but those projects may not have been added to gerrit between when the list is updated and when puppet runs next | 18:48 |
| fungi | jeblair: no! i wasn't attempting to disparage | 18:48 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah | 18:48 |
| jeblair | fungi: no, it's okay, really, i can stop reviewing! ;) | 18:49 |
| jeblair | <jk> | 18:49 |
| fungi | heh | 18:49 |
| jeblair | zaro, clarkb: i think we were trying to get to the bottom of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1284371 | 18:50 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1284371 in openstack-ci "gate error: Looks like the node went offline during the build. Check the slave log for the details.FATAL: /var/lib/jenkins/logs/slaves/*/slave.log (No such file or directory)" [High,Triaged] | 18:50 |
| jeblair | zaro, clarkb: so we wanted to see when/why/if gearman-plugin was choosing to deregister jobs | 18:50 |
| krotscheck | Infra just got a callout and round of applause here at OpenStack SV :) | 18:50 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: yay | 18:51 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: oh? | 18:51 |
| krotscheck | Yep- William Franklin basically said: Hey, there’s all these people who make sure that you can commit things. Let’s appreciate them a bit :) | 18:51 |
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| SpamapS | nice | 18:52 |
| fungi | good ol' bill | 18:52 |
| jeblair | we also work very hard to make sure people can't commit (some) things ;) | 18:53 |
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| mrmartin | ;) | 18:53 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: so true. :) | 18:58 |
| adam_g | clarkb, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118700/ rebased | 18:59 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/gearman-plugin: change logging level https://review.openstack.org/82627 | 18:59 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: morning! | 18:59 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 18:59 |
| jeblair | it's about meeting time | 18:59 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: well actually more like middle fo the night, is it not? | 19:00 |
| jhesketh | anteaya: 5am, not sure what you'd call that | 19:00 |
| jhesketh | probably closer to morning | 19:00 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: I could go either way | 19:00 |
| zaro | clarkb: my memory has been jogged. 88432 is actually a no-op really. gearman is already set to to log in DEBUG. this change _keeps_ gearman logging in DEBUG mode only after change 82627 merges. jeblair suggested in 82627 (PS2) | 19:01 |
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| dhellmann | mordred, lifeless, fungi, sdague, jeblair : considering whether to make a pbr release today (0.11) and cut 1.0 thursday. The changes include a bug fix for the semver processing of tags that don't look like version numbers. thoughts/ http://paste.openstack.org/show/112270/ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | don't we pin pbr to <1.0 in a lot of places? | 19:05 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I reallllly want a release of pbr done | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: good point, but we can fix that because 0.11 and 1.0 would have the same bits in the dist | 19:07 |
| lifeless | clarkb: if we're pinned thats fine | 19:07 |
| lifeless | clarkb: we can go and unpin after 1.0 doesn't break the world | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I do too, but I also don't want things to break this week. | 19:07 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: this is just releasing to the world what CI has been using for a couple months already | 19:07 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: because CI tests with master | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: every time we say that, things break | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: we do not actually *install* openstack in any of our test jobs | 19:08 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: tripleo does | 19:08 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: and the pbr integration test does | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | do those jobs run regularly? really asking, I have no idea how those are hooked up | 19:09 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: tripleo jobs are hooked up on changes to tripleo and ironic branches today | 19:09 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: pbr's integration job is hooked up on changes to pbr | 19:09 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: both pip install things :) | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I forgot about that one | 19:10 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I want to run the pbr integration job much more broadly (or make devstack pip install -e) | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | devstack does run pip install -e but that doesn't actually build the packages so if we, for example, don't catch that neutron is missing a file they tell us to package then that breaks somewhere other than a neutron job | 19:11 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: actually pip install -e does catch that | 19:11 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I know because neutrons missing file broke my patches to pbr while their trunk was broken | 19:11 |
| dhellmann | really, because I thought we had a case this cycle where it didn't? | 19:12 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: we don't run the pbr integration tests in response to neutron changes | 19:12 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: which is how that case got into neutron master | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | that was a bug in pbr, then? | 19:12 |
| lifeless | no | 19:12 |
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| lifeless | let me try explaining again | 19:13 |
| lifeless | there is a test that catches setup.* issues in openstack | 19:13 |
| lifeless | it only runs on pbr changes | 19:14 |
| lifeless | neutron made a change that broken setup.* | 19:14 |
| lifeless | because the test that would have caught it doesn't run on neutron changes, the change landed in neutron | 19:15 |
| dhellmann | that much I understood. I thought you said pip install -e would have caught that problem. | 19:15 |
| lifeless | then those tests were broken for everyone else | 19:15 |
| lifeless | anyhow, its moot right? | 19:16 |
| lifeless | we have tests that caught the neutron setup issue, they just don't run in response to neutron changes | 19:16 |
| lifeless | not a bug in pbr, possibly a bug in what tests we run when | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:16 |
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| dhellmann | lifeless: so what's our mitigation plan if something does break? how do we roll back to the previous version? | 19:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove unnecessary metadata check https://review.openstack.org/121958 | 19:19 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: we don't. We do a commit to fix (perhaps by undoing everything since 0.10.0) and land that and release 0.12.0 | 19:20 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: or possibly, though I haven't tested it, tag the 0.10.0 rev a second time as 0.12.0 and push that | 19:20 |
| lifeless | I'm not at all sure that that would DTRT - but we could manually push such an sdist to pypi | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | I'd like to hear from some others because of the timing. sdague, mordred, jeblair, fungi, clarkb, anyone else? | 19:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove unnecessary metadata check https://review.openstack.org/121958 | 19:22 |
| fungi | dhellmann: infra is in its weekly meeting, but will try to discuss after this and tc/project meetings wrap up | 19:22 |
| clarkb | meeting now, but can chime in after that | 19:22 |
| jeblair | speaking of timing, we're all in a meeting :) | 19:22 |
| dhellmann | heh, sorry, all | 19:22 |
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| dansmith | dstufft: clarkb assured me you could unfsck my pip stuff in mere minutes.. you around for some questions? :) | 19:31 |
| lifeless | dansmith: wassup? | 19:32 |
| lifeless | dansmith: I'm not dstufft but I might have some ideas | 19:32 |
| dansmith | lifeless: damn right you're not! :) | 19:32 |
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| dansmith | so, I have issues running nova unit tests in tox | 19:32 |
| dansmith | when I run tox -epy27, I get this immediately: | 19:33 |
| dansmith | pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: virtualenv>=1.11.2 | 19:33 |
| dansmith | yet: | 19:33 |
| dansmith | tox==1.7.2 | 19:33 |
| dansmith | virtualenv==1.11.6 | 19:33 |
| dansmith | tried nuking /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages and starting over, | 19:33 |
| dansmith | got right back to the same spot | 19:34 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith: are you using a pypi mirror? | 19:35 |
| dansmith | dhellmann: not intentionally, that I know of :) | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | heh | 19:35 |
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| dansmith | dhellmann: how do I tell? | 19:35 |
| lifeless | dansmith: is there a .tox/py27 directory | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | hmm, do we work with tox 1.7.2 now? I remember an issue that had me pinned to 1.6.1 | 19:35 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I believe so | 19:36 |
| dansmith | lifeless: yeah, tried nuking that several times, let me do it again | 19:36 |
| lifeless | dansmith: ok so nuke that | 19:36 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that error was different, but that caught my eye | 19:36 |
| lifeless | dansmith: then | 19:36 |
| dansmith | lifeless: yeah, nuked, same deal | 19:36 |
| dansmith | let me pastebin the whole trace | 19:36 |
| lifeless | dansmith: cat ~/.pip/pip.conf | 19:36 |
| dansmith | I've nuked ~/.pip too | 19:36 |
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| dansmith | http://pastebin.com/TDFYWeCS | 19:37 |
| lifeless | dansmith: finally set | grep PIP | 19:37 |
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| dansmith | lifeless: nothing in my env | 19:37 |
| lifeless | ah ok | 19:37 |
| lifeless | so your tox is bust | 19:37 |
| lifeless | dansmith: try sudo pip install -U tox | 19:37 |
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| dansmith | lifeless: I've already tried nuking /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages | 19:38 |
| dansmith | which is where tox lives | 19:38 |
| dansmith | and I don't have a system tox packagfe installed | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | how about: pip install -U tox | 19:38 |
| lifeless | dansmith: so | 19:38 |
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| dansmith | dhellmann: reports up-to-date | 19:38 |
| lifeless | dansmith: what I'm asking is different to that, in principle | 19:39 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: I think you're making this hard on purpose :-) | 19:39 |
| dansmith | wha? :) | 19:39 |
| lifeless | dansmith: so you tried sudo pip install -U tox | 19:39 |
| dansmith | lifeless: http://pastebin.com/HBCt8ZQE | 19:39 |
| dansmith | yes | 19:39 |
| dhellmann | I think lifeless is right, and we need to completely get rid of your tox and then reinstall it | 19:39 |
| dhellmann | how about: pip uninstall tox && pip install tox | 19:40 |
| dansmith | done, same error | 19:40 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I think a larger fire is needed - sudo pip uninstall tox virtualenv py && sudo pip install tox | 19:40 |
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| dhellmann | actually you might need to run the uninstall step a couple of times if you have some weirdness going on | 19:40 |
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| dansmith | second uninstall claims no tox installed | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | removing dist-packages ought to do most of that | 19:40 |
| dansmith | same for virtualenv | 19:41 |
| dansmith | dhellmann: right, you saw that I've done that once already, right? | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | and the installing it gets you back to the same error about virtualenv missing? | 19:41 |
| dansmith | yes | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: yeah | 19:41 |
| dansmith | after removing, | 19:41 |
| dansmith | I installed the system's pip, | 19:41 |
| dansmith | pip install -U pip | 19:41 |
| dansmith | which gets me a working new pip in /usr/local | 19:41 |
| dansmith | then pip install tox, | 19:41 |
| dansmith | which pulls in virtualenv, | 19:41 |
| dansmith | and then tox -r blows up as above | 19:42 |
| dhellmann | ok, I usually use get-pip to install pip but I'm not sure that would make a difference | 19:42 |
| dansmith | well, I can try it if you want, but this is all I've ever done | 19:42 |
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| dhellmann | nah, I don't think that's it | 19:42 |
| lifeless | what version of py is installed ? | 19:42 |
| dansmith | (master)% python -V | 19:43 |
| dansmith | Python 2.7.3 | 19:43 |
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| dansmith | DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS" | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: no, I think lifeless means literally the package "py" | 19:43 |
| lifeless | dansmith: no, py - should be in pip freeze | 19:43 |
| dansmith | heh, sorry | 19:43 |
| dansmith | py comes in with tox, fwiw, but: | 19:43 |
| dansmith | py==1.4.24 | 19:43 |
| lifeless | dansmith: right thats why I want to know :) | 19:43 |
| lifeless | so thats shiny and new | 19:44 |
| lifeless | its not in my pip mirror yet | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | you have newer versions of all of these things than I have | 19:44 |
| lifeless | try | 19:44 |
| dansmith | orly | 19:44 |
| lifeless | pip install py==1.4.23 | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | all 3 of them, fwiw | 19:44 |
| dansmith | so *maybe* I'm not crazy? :) | 19:44 |
| lifeless | pip install tox | 19:44 |
| lifeless | then see what happens | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: you're an openstack developer, so I think you have to give up on not being crazy | 19:45 |
| lifeless | hmm, my mirror must be stale, as 1.4.24 hit pypi on the 5th | 19:45 |
| dansmith | dhellmann: heh | 19:45 |
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| dansmith | lifeless: same deal | 19:45 |
| dansmith | lifeless: it pulled in the same version of virtualenv as reported above, of course | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Clean up bashate failures https://review.openstack.org/118944 | 19:46 |
| lifeless | dansmith: ok | 19:46 |
| dansmith | oh check it | 19:47 |
| dansmith | virtualenv 1.11.5 works | 19:47 |
| lifeless | so with py 1.4.23 and your version of virtualenv and tox, tox seems happy to me | 19:47 |
| dansmith | apparently | 19:47 |
| dansmith | 1.11.6 not so much | 19:47 |
| lifeless | 1.11.6 is fine for me | 19:47 |
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| lifeless | but whatevs :) | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | weird, that package is months old | 19:47 |
| dansmith | well, I uninstalled virtualenv and installed the version from one of my other boxes that does work, and now I'm building tox | 19:47 |
| dansmith | er, .tox | 19:48 |
| dstufft | are you using a super old version of setuptools | 19:50 |
| dstufft | like pre 0.6.uhhh24? | 19:50 |
| dansmith | ii python-setuptools 0.6.24-1ubuntu1 Python Distutils Enhancements (setuptools compatibility) | 19:50 |
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| dansmith | dstufft: ^ | 19:51 |
| dstufft | dansmith: try pip install --no-use-wheel | 19:52 |
| dstufft | it might be 0.6.28 | 19:52 |
| dstufft | is this precise | 19:52 |
| dstufft | you can't install from wheels on old versions of setuptools correctly because it doesn't recognize the wheel metadata | 19:52 |
| dstufft | -> has to go | 19:52 |
| dansmith | dstufft: but you saw that I'm working with virtualenv 1.11.5 and py1.4.23, right? | 19:52 |
| dansmith | dstufft: ah, okay, well, I'm working for now | 19:52 |
| dansmith | will try the above with fresh packages later | 19:53 |
| lifeless | dansmith: that would make sense | 19:53 |
| dansmith | dstufft: lifeless: dhellmann: thanks | 19:53 |
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| lifeless | dansmith: because there is a wheel of 1.11.6 | 19:53 |
| lifeless | hmmm there is one of 1.11.5 too though | 19:53 |
| lifeless | ah | 19:53 |
| lifeless | py3 only | 19:53 |
| lifeless | its the wheel thing | 19:53 |
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| lifeless | 1.11.5 has a py3 only wheel, 1.11.6 has a py2.py3 wheel. | 19:54 |
| lifeless | dstufft: dansmith: ^ | 19:54 |
| dansmith | ah | 19:54 |
| dansmith | makes sense | 19:54 |
| dansmith | glad I'm not crazy | 19:54 |
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| dansmith | well, because of this anyway | 19:56 |
| dansmith | clarkb: you called that one pretty good | 19:56 |
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| krotscheck | ….that moment when you’re putting off lunch and going to the bathroom because you have something on the infra agenda, and then time runs out…. [/sadtrombone] | 20:00 |
| krotscheck | Ahh well, next week. | 20:01 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: yeah, it hurts doesn't it | 20:01 |
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| anteaya | :( | 20:01 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: happy to talk about it here if it helps/ | 20:01 |
| clarkb | dansmith: :) | 20:01 |
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| clarkb | dansmith: dstufft is the python packaging magician | 20:01 |
| dansmith | heh | 20:01 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: Not as much as my stomach growling! I’m gonna go do that :D | 20:01 |
| dansmith | someday I'll be a magician of something | 20:01 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: yes, eat vegetables! | 20:01 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: who did you need to have around for that topic? | 20:02 |
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| anteaya | well I am curious about where the names are coming from on the storyboard groups | 20:02 |
| anteaya | I don't know who needs to be here for that | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a test to verify oslo.messaging's AMQP 1.0 messaging protocol support https://review.openstack.org/115752 | 20:03 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: i'm looking at bug 1369710 and have confirmed that libmcrypt4 and php5-mcrypt are installed on our bare-trusty nodes in all providers. i'm currently trying to reproduce the failure | 20:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1369710 in openstack-ci "openstackid release fails on trusty node" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1369710 | 20:06 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: seems strange | 20:07 |
| mrmartin | fungi: and additionally we need to test the openstackid against the trusty php packages, because there was a version change between precise and trusty | 20:07 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: lifeless so for a pbr release. I think it is relatively low risk, and if there are specific areas where we need more coverage we can do that by hand if necessary (but should also add jobs if possible) | 20:08 |
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| ianw | clarkb: over the next few hours, i will validate a) if debootstrap is needed (probably a merge error) and b) if the permissions need to be set like that in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102583/11 . this does not seem like it should be a blocker | 20:10 |
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| bswartz | anteaya: ping | 20:11 |
| anteaya | hello bswartz | 20:11 |
| anteaya | how can I help? | 20:11 |
| bswartz | anteaya: I sent a request to third-party-requests and it went into a black hole as far as I can tell | 20:11 |
| jhesketh | btw, I have a bunch of zuul changes up for review if people have time :-) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/zuul+owner:%22Joshua+Hesketh+%253Cjoshua.hesketh%2540rackspace.com%253E%22,n,z | 20:12 |
| bswartz | did I miss a response somewhere? | 20:12 |
| bswartz | or does it normally take time? | 20:12 |
| bswartz | I'm assuming you're the one that handles them... is that right? | 20:12 |
| clarkb | ianw: I don't think debootstrap is needed. let me know what you find out (dib starts with an ubuntu base image that it mounts and chroots into on its own so no deboostrap necessary) | 20:12 |
| jhesketh | I'm particularly interested in feedback on 121528 as it relates to recent refactor discussions | 20:12 |
| clarkb | ianw: also lifeless may know the answer to that off the top of his head | 20:12 |
| lifeless | ianw: debootstrap is only needed for Debian | 20:13 |
| anteaya | bswartz: netapp manilla ci? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-requests/2014-September/thread.html | 20:13 |
| lifeless | ianw: in the context of dib | 20:13 |
| bswartz | yes that's mine | 20:13 |
| anteaya | bswartz: except you won't be using the name mailla | 20:13 |
| clarkb | lifeless: oh it is needed ok | 20:13 |
| anteaya | bswartz: not a black hole | 20:13 |
| lifeless | clarkb: for *debian* | 20:13 |
| clarkb | lifeless: oh not ubuntu | 20:13 |
| lifeless | clarkb: Ubuntu has pre-built images | 20:13 |
| anteaya | sent yesterday | 20:13 |
| clarkb | lifeless: roger | 20:13 |
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| bswartz | anteaya: where did you send the response? I seem to have missed it | 20:14 |
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| anteaya | bswartz: please reply to that post with the name of the driver or plugin you are verifying | 20:14 |
| clarkb | ok I am going to find the second half of my lunch | 20:14 |
| anteaya | bswartz: no reply yet | 20:14 |
| anteaya | bswartz: someone gets to requests about once a week | 20:14 |
| bswartz | okay that's what I was wondering | 20:14 |
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| bswartz | I'll add more detail to my request | 20:14 |
| fungi | mrmartin: yeah, it's reproducible and my first guess is that it's looking for the wrong php version | 20:14 |
| bswartz | you want the driver name? | 20:14 |
| anteaya | bswartz: I don't yet have permissions to do it myself so I have to wait for someone else to have a minute | 20:14 |
| anteaya | bswartz: yes, please add the driver name in a follow up email to that thread | 20:15 |
| bswartz | is there an issue with the name "NetApp Manila CI"? This is to distinguish it from the "NetApp CI" which is currently cinder-specific | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | fungi, clarkb: I'm trying to push a merge commit for a tempest->tempest-lib migration. I'm using: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest-lib/tree/tools/migrate_from_tempest.sh to add the commit history. | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | the issue I'm hitting is gerrit rejects the push saying I'm not the committer on the bottom patch | 20:15 |
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| mtreinish | does that mean I need to update the committer for each commit before I do a migration? | 20:16 |
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| anteaya | bswartz: there is an issue with using an openstack program name in a ci account name yes | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | While that shouldn't be too hard to do, I'm hoping there is a magic way to avoid doing that in the script | 20:16 |
| fungi | mtreinish: pushing merge commits is a special permission (mainly to avoid people doing it accidentally from a muddy local branch). what was the reason behind not importing from a filtered copy of the original repo? | 20:17 |
| anteaya | bswartz: which we address by using the driver name, which you are going to provide, yes? | 20:17 |
| bswartz | anteaya: okay I'll suggest a different name | 20:17 |
| zaro | rcarrillocruz: made a suggestion in 121560 | 20:17 |
| fungi | mtreinish: also, you'd another special permission to impersonate the committer if they're not all committed by you | 20:18 |
| anteaya | bswartz: no, we create the name | 20:18 |
| bswartz | the driver name's between cinder and manila are the same, so I'll need to add something else to distinguish the 2 | 20:18 |
| anteaya | bswartz: please provide the driver name | 20:18 |
| bswartz | the driver name is just netapp | 20:18 |
| mtreinish | fungi: that's what the script does, we're doing it piecewise by functionality. Because there is a lot of refactor needed to make somethings work | 20:18 |
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| bswartz | but the manila netapp driver and the cinder netapp driver are different | 20:19 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: or at least that's what I attempted to script | 20:19 |
| fungi | mtreinish: oh, sounds like maybe the merge commits its complaining about are ones from the previous repo | 20:19 |
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| anteaya | bswartz: okay please provide the details of how they are different in your email | 20:20 |
| fungi | mtreinish: normally we import that when the project is created in gerrit, to avoid all this nastiness. have there been any reviews in the new project yet? | 20:20 |
| mtreinish | fungi: oh, sorry I wasn't clear it's complaing about the commits from the prev repo not being committed by me | 20:20 |
| mrmartin | fungi: looks strange, because the php5-mcrypt package name is the same in trusty http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mcrypt&searchon=names&suite=trusty§ion=all | 20:20 |
| mtreinish | fungi: there have been a few | 20:20 |
| mtreinish | this is the first time we're trying to migrate after I moved it into gerrit | 20:20 |
| fungi | jeblair: clarkb: ^ suggestions on how to untangle tempest-lib? apparently it has some commits and the desire is to push a merge commit of a filtered branch into the current one | 20:21 |
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| mtreinish | a filtered branch of another repo... | 20:22 |
| fungi | right | 20:22 |
| clarkb | we dont combine repos... | 20:22 |
| mtreinish | if it's too crazy I can just make the executive decision and say we can't move the commit history when we do a migration | 20:22 |
| fungi | if there weren't already existing commits in the target repo i'd say just force push the replacement repo into it | 20:22 |
| clarkb | I mean we can but I think keystone was like first and only | 20:22 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: did you talk to us about this before you started? | 20:23 |
| mtreinish | yes, a couple of weeks ago after I saw the neutron incubator thread | 20:23 |
| mtreinish | although I'm guessing I wasn't exactly clear with my intended path here | 20:24 |
| fungi | the neutron incubator thread was about all sorts of wrong ideas about recombining git repositories | 20:24 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: a link to that discussion would be nice. afaik, you prepared a repo for import and we imported it. | 20:24 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2014-08-28.log at 2014-08-28T19:42:05 | 20:27 |
| mtreinish | although it looks like I misunderstood clarkb | 20:27 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: that was on the date you uploaded the change to import tempest-lib. i believe we all understood you to be asking whether it's okay to filter-branch everything you need into the staging repo so it can be imported. | 20:30 |
| jeblair | and it is. and you've done that. and we can't import it a second time. | 20:30 |
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| anteaya | bswartz: if you want to merge the two systems why not use the one account to test both drivers? | 20:32 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: yeah it's my mistake for not being clear and mistunderstanding. Ok, I guess we'll just cp code and generate a list of sha1s for commit messages or something like that instead | 20:32 |
| fungi | in retrospect it sounds like mtreinish wanted to filter branch multiple times in stages and merge in over the course of a piecemeal migration from tempest to tempest-lib | 20:32 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: yeah that's what I meant | 20:32 |
| fungi | rather than all in one shot | 20:32 |
| fungi | which won't really work. that gets extremely messy | 20:32 |
| jeblair | that's a shame. because you're loosing the history of your code. | 20:32 |
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| bswartz | anteaya: since the systems are separate hardware, separate software, I don't want issues with one system to cause you guys to disable both | 20:34 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: yeah it is. But, the history will still be there in the tempest repo though | 20:34 |
| anteaya | bswartz: your call | 20:35 |
| anteaya | bswartz: what is NAS? | 20:35 |
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| bswartz | Network Attached Storage -- it's a shorthand for shared file systems | 20:35 |
| bswartz | such as NFS and CIFS | 20:35 |
| fungi | (and afs!) | 20:35 |
| bswartz | fungi: yse | 20:36 |
| * fungi couldn't resist | 20:36 | |
| anteaya | more acronyms sigh | 20:36 |
| ianw | clarkb / lifeless : cool, from a quick manual grep of git log -p, elements/debian/root.d/08-debootstrap is the only place debootstrap has ever seemed to be used. so we have to conclude that whatever yolanda was seeing requiring debootstrap was a bug that needs fixing elsewhere | 20:36 |
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| anteaya | well the email didnt' give me what I was hoping for in terms of understanding the difference between the two drivers, but I'll do my best | 20:36 |
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| anteaya | bswartz: might take a week, in the mean time you can use your personal gerrit account to listen to the gerrit stream and exercise itself | 20:37 |
| bswartz | anteaya: they're drivers for the same product but for different openstack projects | 20:37 |
| anteaya | bswartz: so it is fit when your account is available | 20:37 |
| anteaya | bswartz: right, that much I got | 20:37 |
| bswartz | anteaya: sure, that's what I've been doing -- I didn't know whether requests were typically answered within a day or within a month so I wanted to ask | 20:38 |
| bswartz | now I've got my answer | 20:38 |
| fungi | mrmartin: the php5-mcrypt package seems to install /usr/lib/php5/20121212/mcrypt.so but maybe it's looking in the wrong place? | 20:38 |
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| anteaya | bswartz: glad to hear you aren't blocked by the turn around time | 20:38 |
| anteaya | bswartz: hanging out in this channel is a good idea, having you available to answer netapp concerns with get you ci diabled less frequently | 20:39 |
| anteaya | bswartz: also you learn useful stuff | 20:39 |
| anteaya | on a good day | 20:39 |
| mrmartin | fungi: I'll try to do a clean trusty based deployment in vagrant, and let's see what happens | 20:39 |
| bswartz | anteaya: you may want to document what the typical response time is in this guide: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#requesting-a-service-account | 20:39 |
| bswartz | to avoid more impatient people like me coming in here and shouting | 20:39 |
| anteaya | bswartz: do offer a patch | 20:40 |
| anteaya | bswartz: I can teach you how | 20:40 |
| bswartz | I've been lurking in this channel for a few weeks now | 20:40 |
| anteaya | bswartz: great | 20:40 |
| anteaya | bswartz: made it to any third party meetings yet? | 20:40 |
| bswartz | oh God not more meetings | 20:40 |
| anteaya | thats what I say | 20:40 |
| bswartz | lol | 20:40 |
| anteaya | in one now | 20:40 |
| bswartz | when is the infra weekly meeting | 20:40 |
| bswartz | I can put it on my calendar at least | 20:41 |
| anteaya | 1900 UTC | 20:41 |
| bswartz | tuesdays? | 20:41 |
| anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings | 20:41 |
| anteaya | yes | 20:41 |
| anteaya | and please attend the third party meetings | 20:41 |
| anteaya | third party business should be discussed at the third party meeting prior to having an agenda item on the infra meeting | 20:42 |
| anteaya | it helps to focus the item by the time infra hears about it | 20:42 |
| anteaya | since usually the first question is, what do the other third party folks think? | 20:42 |
| bswartz | okay looks like I just missed it | 20:42 |
| anteaya | yes | 20:43 |
| anteaya | tc meeting is 3/4 over and project is next | 20:43 |
| fungi | bswartz: speaking of calendars, we agreed at today's infra team meeting to do the manila project moves from stackforge to openstack namespace at 20:30 utc this friday. i'll send a message to the -dev ml with details shortly, but might as well run it by you while you're in here | 20:43 |
| bswartz | fungi: sounds excellent -- I never found out why it was delayed though | 20:43 |
| fungi | bswartz: delayed? | 20:44 |
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| fungi | bswartz: oh, as in why we waited until now. we usually try to schedule it during quiet periods since it requires shutting down zuul and gerrit for a few minutes | 20:44 |
| bswartz | I was told by vponomaryov that you planned to do it 2 weeks ago | 20:44 |
| anteaya | we asked for manilla representation each time it was presented on the infra agenda | 20:44 |
| bswartz | ah | 20:44 |
| anteaya | noone attended | 20:45 |
| bswartz | okay so I really should be there | 20:45 |
| anteaya | that would be great | 20:45 |
| bswartz | and I have a recurring calendar conflict I'll need to sort out | 20:45 |
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| fungi | bswartz: we discussed scheduling for it in the meeting once i had confirmed with you and vponomaryov that you were okay with it whenever, but the feature freeze rush had the gate fairly busy and most of us weren't around to do it last weekend | 20:45 |
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| bswartz | we're getting close to rc1 now... | 20:46 |
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| bswartz | I suppose there's never a great time | 20:46 |
| bswartz | just have to bite the bullet | 20:46 |
| fungi | yeah, there's never a great time for these sorts of things unless projects start getting their incubations accepted at the start of the cycle rather than near the end | 20:46 |
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| fungi | or new program applications in this case | 20:46 |
| fungi | but those always seem to happen closer to release time | 20:47 |
| * krotscheck has had his vegetables | 20:48 | |
| krotscheck | anteaya: So, the history of the groups thing is, as I gathered, the following. | 20:48 |
| krotscheck | First, groups were added to jeepyb and review.projects.yaml (by mordred I think) in anticipation of them being a storyboard thing. | 20:49 |
| krotscheck | At that point, the term was named “group" | 20:49 |
| krotscheck | Then, at some point later, it was used to assist with launchpad things which I’m not entirely clear on. | 20:50 |
| krotscheck | During all this time, bitrot may or may not have happened. | 20:50 |
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| krotscheck | Then we actually came around and designed/built project groups, and it turns out that we need a single project to be able to join more than one group. | 20:50 |
| krotscheck | (And by we I mean StoryBoard) | 20:51 |
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| krotscheck | That’s where my two patches then came into play, modifying “group” to “groups" | 20:51 |
| krotscheck | However I did this without knowing what the launchpad thing was that happened since the original implementation. | 20:51 |
| * krotscheck is still not quite certain on what that is. | 20:52 | |
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| krotscheck | So now the discussion you started has split into two- What should we name groups (oh look, bitrot), and how should we (if at all) distinguis between launchpad groupy things and storyboard groupy things. | 20:52 |
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| krotscheck | And they lived happily ever after. | 20:52 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: minor historical edit there | 20:57 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: we had a "launchpad" parameter we were using to track what we now call "group" in that file | 20:58 |
| fungi | it was renamed in anticipation of storyboard's group feature, and in an effort to cease advertising lp in confusing ways in our config | 20:58 |
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| krotscheck | That makes sense. | 20:58 |
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| fungi | but it did already exist in some form | 20:59 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so the question is, do the modifications I made in jeepyb and config address the feature which that supports? | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: which modifications? | 21:00 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111814/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111815/ | 21:00 |
| ianw | jeblair / clarkb : in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102583 (Add pre-requisites needed for diskimage-builder) between patchset 4 & 5 "file { '/var/lib/nodepool':" changed to "file {'/opt/nodepool". i think it is just a typo | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Swartzlander proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Document typical response time for third-party-requests is one week https://review.openstack.org/121980 | 21:03 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: that seems like jsut a syntactical change... we are just adding some 's's ? | 21:03 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: It does support multiple groups now, so there’s a loop there. | 21:03 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: I think so, if yo ujust feed it a list in yaml you ge ta list in python | 21:04 |
| krotscheck | Everything else is syntactical | 21:04 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: I just don’t want the addition of that loop to break things elsewhere, which jeblair suggested. | 21:05 |
| krotscheck | Again, I don’t know what’s going on. | 21:05 |
| clarkb | that loop? | 21:05 |
| clarkb | the loop in update blueprint? | 21:06 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Does the addition of “hey we’re looping over several groups rather than one” break things in jeepyb | 21:06 |
| krotscheck | Or in other things. | 21:06 |
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| clarkb | ya ok that loop. so to me that should be the only change we are making... | 21:06 |
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| clarkb | but this is fine too | 21:07 |
| clarkb | its just a bit harder to understand the problem we are solving | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add pre-requisites needed for diskimage-builder https://review.openstack.org/102583 | 21:08 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: so here is what I am hearing, there was a motivation to do a thing and there was already a thing and the thing that is being done needs to be different from the thing that was | 21:09 |
| clarkb | ianw: /var/lib/nodepool is tpyically an ok location for images, except / is really tiny on our nodes and we mount the ephemeral drive on /opt | 21:09 |
| clarkb | ianw: maybe we can have a /opt/dib/ or /opt/nodepool_dib or similar? /me double checks nodepool node | 21:09 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: and noone seems to know where the actual list of proposed groups came from like openstack-api-site | 21:10 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: Plus bitrot. | 21:10 |
| anteaya | and group python-cliff | 21:10 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: Well, it sounds like that came from the old ‘launchpad’ parameter, what’s the history of that? | 21:10 |
| anteaya | plus bitrot | 21:10 |
| clarkb | ianw: nevermind its a good thing I double checked. nodepool / is giant | 21:10 |
| clarkb | apparently it hasn't been rebuilt | 21:10 |
| anteaya | and is there a link to the old launchpad parameter | 21:10 |
| fungi | anteaya: many (most?) of those are the lp project names corresponding to those git repositories | 21:10 |
| anteaya | so python-cliff was an lp project name? | 21:11 |
| fungi | anteaya: or possibly an error we missed in code review | 21:11 |
| anteaya | that is what I am trying to find out | 21:11 |
| ianw | clarkb: ahh, that makes sense as to how that came to be , i'm guessing modred put it on /opt and chose the logical name, except that's where the checkout is done | 21:11 |
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| anteaya | since i believe cliff is in oslo now | 21:11 |
| fungi | anteaya: nope, it's real... https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cliff | 21:11 |
| anteaya | and should be in the oslo group | 21:11 |
| clarkb | ianw: however if we use /opt then we will get what we want if/when we rebuild that host | 21:11 |
| fungi | anteaya: that seems to be the bug tracker in lp for openstack/cliff | 21:11 |
| clarkb | ianw: probably worth setting to /opt/something now just to avoid future pain | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: cliff was taken on lp, so I used python-cliff | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | same for stevedore | 21:12 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml#n166 | 21:12 |
| ianw | clarkb: mordred did make the comment "Using the ephemeral partition seems perfect for this as we can always rebuild an image so they don't have to stick around say after a nodepool host rebuild." (i pasted that into the commit log) | 21:12 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: so you want the storyboard group for those to be cliff and stevedore or oslo? | 21:12 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: because in my mind it should be olso | 21:13 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya so I think we should put the path under /opt | 21:13 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: btw, the multiple group thing might actually solva e problem that dhellmann and ttx have been having with jeepyb finding oslo blueprints in launchpad :) | 21:13 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: context https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111815/3/modules/openstack_project/files/review.projects.yaml | 21:13 |
| clarkb | and update the commit message | 21:13 |
| fungi | anteaya: the group (formerly launchpad) option in the jeepyb projects.yaml file presently serves two purposes... for identifying when the name of a project is different on lp vs in git/gerrit, and for multiple git repositories sharing one lp project name (effectively different manifestations of the same need) | 21:13 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: yay unexpected fixes! | 21:13 |
| anteaya | fungi: okay | 21:14 |
| ianw | clarkb: alright, lucky revision 13 coming up :) | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: we have an oslo project group in launchpad, and separate projects for each library. I would like storyboard to be the same, I think, but let me think about it after this meeting is done. | 21:14 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: kk | 21:14 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: that's the design in storyboard -- projects can be members of multiple groups | 21:14 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: so in sb, individual projects will be members of both oslo and openstack | 21:15 |
| clarkb | ianw: and commented on the change direcntly | 21:15 |
| anteaya | fungi: that is in jeepyb and launchpad this is for review.projects.yaml and storyboard | 21:15 |
| anteaya | fungi: isn't now the time to make a change if a change needs to be made? | 21:15 |
| fungi | anteaya: review.projects.yaml is jeepyb | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | jeblair, anteaya : ok, that sounds like what we want then | 21:15 |
| fungi | anteaya: i never disputed the need to change things, just trying to provide historical reference | 21:16 |
| anteaya | fungi: you mean that file is consumed by jeepyb? | 21:16 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah okay | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | jeblair, mordred, fungi : if you have reasons for me not to do a pbr release in the morning, let me know, otherwise I'll go ahead and cut 0.11 | 21:16 |
| fungi | anteaya: it's why i called it "jeepyb's projects.yaml" (to differentiate it from jjb's projects.yaml which we also have) | 21:16 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: nothing i know of, unless the metadata 2.0 thing melwitt broughth up needs critical attention first? | 21:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: I think I may be confused I am referring to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111815/3/modules/openstack_project/files/review.projects.yaml | 21:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: which I don't have in my head as jeepyb's projects.yaml | 21:17 |
| fungi | anteaya: yep. that's jeepyb's projects.yaml | 21:17 |
| anteaya | ah so that is a failing on my end | 21:18 |
| krotscheck | mordred is currently leading a panel. | 21:18 |
| anteaya | I have not heretofore refered to it as such | 21:18 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: how is he doing? | 21:18 |
| fungi | anteaya: jeepyb is what consumes it. it's used by manage_projects.py and update_bug.py | 21:18 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: He’s doing his best to get his panelists to call each others names. | 21:18 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah, I shall endevour to remember that, thanks | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | fungi: I'm not sure which bug report that is? | 21:18 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: there's a fight in the making | 21:19 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: do keep score | 21:19 |
| krotscheck | Right now it’s 0-0-0-0 | 21:19 |
| fungi | anteaya: it's now starting to be increasingly used by more things, i was just trying not to let it be confused with the projects.yaml in our jjb configuration | 21:19 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: ha ha ha | 21:19 |
| anteaya | fungi: I will go looking to make sure I know which file you are referencing | 21:19 |
| fungi | anteaya: without typing a mile-long pathname to differentiate them anyway ;) | 21:20 |
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| anteaya | right | 21:20 |
| melwitt | dhellmann, fungi: this is the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1369179 | 21:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1369179 in pbr "nova list crashes on startup" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:20 |
| fungi | dhellmann: bug 1369179 | 21:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1369179 in pbr "nova list crashes on startup" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1369179 | 21:20 |
| fungi | hah, melwitt beat me to it | 21:20 |
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| anteaya | fungi: so this is jjb projects.yaml http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml | 21:21 |
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| anteaya | and review.projects.yaml is jeepyb's projects.yaml | 21:21 |
| anteaya | okay | 21:21 |
| melwitt | fungi: whoops :) | 21:21 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: is that only on os x or is it only with a particular version of setuptools? | 21:21 |
| anteaya | I had just called them projects.yaml and review.projects.yaml | 21:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add pre-requisites needed for diskimage-builder https://review.openstack.org/102583 | 21:22 |
| anteaya | melwitt: no no, if you can beat fungi to a url you get a cookie | 21:22 |
| melwitt | dhellmann: it's not particular to os x. the conditions for it happening is if novaclient gets installed under dist-packages I see it has METADATA file instead of PKG-INFO file *and* if git isn't installed. otherwise pbr will use git to find the version | 21:22 |
| jeblair | sdague: can you review 116129 please? | 21:22 |
| * anteaya gives melwit a cookie | 21:22 | |
| melwitt | haha, thanks anteaya! | 21:23 |
| anteaya | :D | 21:23 |
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| dhellmann | melwitt: Can you tell me which version of setuptools you have installed? | 21:23 |
| melwitt | dhellmann: I was able to get the same behavior using a vagrant virtualbox vm running ubuntu/precise64 as it comes without git installed | 21:23 |
| melwitt | dhellmann: checking... | 21:23 |
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| clarkb | ianw: thank you | 21:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I believe 102583 is now ready to have your -2 removed and be rereviewed | 21:24 |
| jeblair | clarkb: +=4 | 21:25 |
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| ianw | clarkb: images-dir in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88479/41/modules/openstack_project/templates/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb -- is that a symlink? hunting to see where it might be setup | 21:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb: is the child change ready for review? | 21:25 |
| jeblair | sounds like no :) | 21:26 |
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| melwitt | dhellmann: on the precise vm it's 0.6c11. I'm still trying to figure out how to find the version on mac os x :| | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: "pip freeze | grep setuptools" should say, I think | 21:28 |
| jeblair | sdague: would be nice for you to revisit 117637 too | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: the child change should probably be grabbed and tested before further review since it may have rotted | 21:29 |
| ianw | clarkb: ok, so /etc/nodepool/elements is setup in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88479/41/modules/openstack_project/manifests/nodepool_prod.pp ; seems that should probably symlink /etc/nodepool/images to /opt/nodepool_dib ... or change image-dir | 21:30 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: but also it may need some thoughts about paths which i think ianw was getting at | 21:30 |
| jeblair | ianw: would prefer changing image-dir | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I think we shoudl just change imagedir | 21:30 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: did someone disable vmware nsx ci? | 21:31 |
| jeblair | anteaya: because they voted on a devstack-gate change | 21:32 |
| anteaya | I will check the lastest | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: I wonder if we should just fall back to asking setuptools for a version instead of writing that loop ourselves | 21:32 |
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| melwitt | dhellmann: I don't get output for setuptools on mac when I show pip freeze. I don't typically run anything of note python on my mac, I only did it to repro the issue in the bug report... so I'm not sure how I have setuptools here | 21:32 |
| jeblair | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120817/ | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | melwitt: you might be getting it as a temporary drive-by when pbr runs. Let's move to #openstack-oslo to free up this channel for the infra team | 21:32 |
| anteaya | jeblair: fungi re-enabled them: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-September/000012.html | 21:33 |
| melwitt | dhellmann: are you referring to querying pkg_resources (is that the same as asking setuptools)? | 21:33 |
| jeblair | anteaya: this was since then (only yesterday) | 21:33 |
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| ianw | clarkb: ahh, yolanda's comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88479 says she found a problem in devstack nodes for Debian; that explains why she was requiring debootstrap. i think she was working on some hp debian derivative support, so that makes sense | 21:33 |
| clarkb | melwitt: pip freeze never outputs the setuptools version. try pip list | 21:33 |
| anteaya | jeblair: ah then not that I know of | 21:33 |
| melwitt | thanks clarkb | 21:33 |
| anteaya | jeblair: do you want them not to vote on devstack-gate? | 21:33 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: ping | 21:33 |
| clarkb | melwitt: its one of those things that just is apparently and it can't be changed for raisins :( | 21:34 |
| clarkb | ianw: that makes sense | 21:34 |
| melwitt | clarkb: hehe, noted! | 21:34 |
| fungi | anteaya: rhsu seems to possible be around again now too | 21:34 |
| jeblair | anteaya: no third party systems gets to vote on projects unless they are invited to. infra has invited no one to vote on its projects. | 21:34 |
| fungi | er, possibly | 21:34 |
| anteaya | jeblair: okay thanks | 21:35 |
| rhsu | anteaya: hi im here | 21:35 |
| anteaya | rhsu: better check your system | 21:35 |
| anteaya | rhsu: you are voting on devstack-gate and you have not been invited to do so: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120817/ | 21:35 |
| anteaya | rhsu: so either disable your system or remove devstack-gate whichever is faster | 21:36 |
| anteaya | then we can discuss | 21:36 |
| rhsu | oops looks like that's the neutron CI | 21:36 |
| rhsu | let me try to get in touch with salv-orlando | 21:36 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: i have removed 'vmware nsx ci' from https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/91,members | 21:36 |
| jeblair | salv-orlando: ^ | 21:37 |
| jeblair | feel free to add them back when it's configured to vote on only the projects it has been invited to vote on | 21:37 |
| anteaya | rhsu: jeblair is faster than you | 21:37 |
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| rhsu | nooo haha | 21:37 |
| anteaya | rhsu: you now have time to figure out what is going on and fix ti | 21:37 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: thanks | 21:39 |
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| rhsu | anteaya/jeblair: is there any way you can unblock vmware nsx ci posting on Nova? salv-orlando and i are running separate CI systems under the same account. | 21:39 |
| anteaya | it can post comments but it can't vote | 21:40 |
| rhsu | hmm i see | 21:40 |
| jeblair | rhsu: not currently no, sorry; the acls are global. | 21:41 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: can you look at 121600 ? | 21:41 |
| rhsu | anteaya/jeblair: got it. i'll try to get hold of salv-orlando to see if he can address the issue. | 21:42 |
| anteaya | rhsu: thanks | 21:42 |
| anteaya | jeblair fungi so mestery agrees vArmour is having too many problems to retain voting status, so if I remove them from https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/91,members they remain in https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/270,members correct? | 21:43 |
| fungi | anteaya: yes | 21:44 |
| anteaya | so just select teh check box in the gui and click the delete button? | 21:44 |
| fungi | anteaya: that's it, yep! | 21:44 |
| anteaya | k | 21:44 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:44 |
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| anteaya | rhsu: you probably should adjust your status on your wikipage and the thirdpartysystems page | 21:45 |
| rhsu | anteaya: will do! | 21:47 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:48 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: comment left | 21:50 |
| mtreinish | but I'm fine with doing that as a first step | 21:50 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: haha, any chance you can re-paste me the number of that change? :) | 21:52 |
| * jeblair wishes for tagged command queuing for review requests :) | 21:52 | |
| jeblair | ah found it: 121600 | 21:52 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: nm | 21:52 |
| anteaya | SpamapS: would you like to lose this branch prior to the stackforge import? https://github.com/SpamapS/tripleo-ansible/tree/fiddling | 21:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: oops! Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Failed to parse template unattended_upgrades/50unattended-upgrades.erb: Filepath: /opt/config/production/modules/unattended_upgrades/templates/50unattended-upgrades.erb Line: 8 Detail: undefined method `each' for "Puppetlabs:precise":String... | 21:53 |
| clarkb | ooh bitrot | 21:54 |
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| ianw | anteaya: is xenserver voting. it's a minor problem, but i think it left a -1 vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104125/ and then when i re-ran it, it was not removed | 21:54 |
| clarkb | give me a couple minutes and I can fix it | 21:54 |
| * anteaya looks at xenserver ci | 21:54 | |
| fungi | clarkb: cool--thanks! ran into that debugging why stackforge/bandit wasn't getting a git repo created (which in turn was repeatedly tanking my image updates) | 21:55 |
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| fungi | i'm going to go grab some dinner before resuming, i think | 21:55 |
| anteaya | ianw: it is in the voting third party group: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/91,members | 21:55 |
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| anteaya | ianw: you did citrix recheck | 21:56 |
| anteaya | your patch says the syntax is xenserver: recheck | 21:56 |
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| salv-orlando | rhsu, anteaya, jeblair: what I have done wrong this time? | 21:56 |
| anteaya | though recheck should fire jenkins plus your ci | 21:56 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: well somehow your ci got voting on devstack-gate | 21:57 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: and jeblair has no ability to tolerate that | 21:57 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: so you are in comment only status at the moment | 21:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh wait I think I gave it the wrong type. that is simpler than I thought | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: I’ve seen that. I think it was the right decision to make unvoting. But rhsu has a reliable CI system for nova. I don’t think voting on devstack-gate will ever happen again. I will provide more info as soon as I collect them from our CI server, but I’m fairly positive it has been a one-off triggered by a test which should have not picked a devstack-gate patch. | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Unattended upgrades erb expects list of origins https://review.openstack.org/122001 | 21:59 |
| anteaya | jeblair: can I make them voting again? your call here | 21:59 |
| clarkb | that should do it | 21:59 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: if you are incorrect you will just move to non-voting again, if jeblair doesn't disable you | 22:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: lgtm. heading out for a while, back later | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: if I am not correct I will be happily sign up for hanging | 22:00 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: I will take a chance on you | 22:01 |
| anteaya | but keep in mind jeblair may hang you | 22:01 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: don't make a fool out of me | 22:01 |
| SpamapS | anteaya: oh maybe we should drop _most_ branches | 22:01 |
| SpamapS | anteaya: let me audit those | 22:01 |
| * anteaya goes to move vmware nsx ci to voting | 22:01 | |
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| anteaya | SpamapS: thanks | 22:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Jordan Tardif proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Require requests module less than 2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/122002 | 22:02 |
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| anteaya | salv-orlando: you are voting again, go forth and sin no more | 22:03 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: hi, could you perhaps join #openstack-oslo? got a detective issue with the origin of 'METADATA' files in setuptools | 22:03 |
| anteaya | SpamapS: I only saw master and fiddling branches | 22:04 |
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| anteaya | SpamapS: and given the nature of the name figured it was a candiate for deletion | 22:05 |
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| SpamapS | anteaya: indeed, the rest can stay. :) | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | meaning.. master. :) | 22:06 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 22:06 |
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| anteaya | SpamapS: awesome thank you | 22:07 |
| anteaya | morning mattoliverau | 22:07 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I'm trying to find a gerrit query to find patches ci's vote on | 22:08 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: so far project:openstack-infra/devstack-gate label:Verified=-1, NOT jenkins is not returning any results | 22:08 |
| anteaya | oh well the -1 from vmware has been removed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120817/ | 22:09 |
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| salv-orlando | anteaya: there will be no sin. I’m 100% positive that the vote left on devstack-gate was a one off due to an experiment concerning the CI we’re developing for stackforge/congress. I have instructed to not post anything for those jobs until they are reliable. On a further not I am actually exploring alternatives to posting votes to gerrit. | 22:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/gear: document how to configure gearman logging https://review.openstack.org/93784 | 22:12 |
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| anteaya | salv-orlando: thanks | 22:12 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: keep us informed of what you are considering | 22:13 |
| clarkb | anteaya: label:verified=-1,jenkins is how you search for jenkins | 22:13 |
| clarkb | and the way to negate that is NOT label:verified=-1,jenkins iirc | 22:14 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: yes but that only gets you the +1 and 0 votes from jenkins, i tried it | 22:15 |
| anteaya | I want any vote that is not jenkins | 22:15 |
| clarkb | anteaya: gerrit may not have a way of expressing this then | 22:15 |
| anteaya | verfied vote | 22:15 |
| anteaya | clarkb: it may not, true | 22:15 |
| clarkb | instead you could get all the verified=-1's then filter jenkins out with a script | 22:15 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: have you seen this: http://www.rcbops.com/gerrit/reports/neutron-cireport.html | 22:15 |
| anteaya | clarkb: that is possible | 22:15 |
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| anteaya | was hoping to do it with a query | 22:15 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: the source code is here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/radar/ | 22:16 |
| anteaya | I have to get another walk in, be back in a while | 22:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/gear: Update from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/103144 | 22:17 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: this is along the lines of the results we should have to estimate the “correctness” of a driver or a 3rd party CI. However, I think that voting on upstream gerrit is frustating contributors that see -1s from 3rd party systems that they do not understand, annoys the infra team which should not spend time dealing with unruly 3rd party systems, and frustates 3rd party integrators which have to follow a lot of rules and feel like | 22:19 |
| salv-orlando | being policed. | 22:19 |
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| derekh | Any chance something has caused jenkins nodes to recently start getting reused instead of destroying them ? bug 1370275 | 22:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1370275 in tripleo "Jenkins nodes being reused" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370275 | 22:36 |
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| jeblair | derekh: according to the nodepool logs, that's the only job that ever ran on that node. | 22:37 |
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| derekh | jeblair: weird his is another one that started around the same time http://logs.openstack.org/30/109630/5/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise-nonha/a5f0418/console.html | 22:40 |
| derekh | jeblair: ok, | 22:40 |
| derekh | jeblair: I only see the 2 | 22:40 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Support reading versions from wheels https://review.openstack.org/121751 | 22:40 |
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| jeblair | derekh: since it uploaded some logs that shouldn't have existed and are, you hypothesize, from a previous run, we may be able to find the first copies of those logs. | 22:43 |
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| jeblair | derekh: all of the human readable logs should be renamed to have a .txt extension | 22:44 |
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| derekh | jeblair: ok, noted, will do | 22:44 |
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| jeblair | derekh: can you point me at a seed log that is indexed in logstash so that we can use it to find other occurances of the same log? | 22:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix ssh key specification in the README.rst https://review.openstack.org/114553 | 22:46 |
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| jeblair | derekh: the only seed log i see in the logstash config is logs/seed_logs/os-collect-config.txt | 22:47 |
| derekh | jeblair: their not, as far as I know, the only one that is indexed is os-collect-config.log but it doesn't exist for that job because we're in a transition state https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120394/ | 22:47 |
| jeblair | and i don't see that in the output of the job | 22:47 |
| jeblair | ya | 22:47 |
| clarkb | harlowja: see comment on 121221 | 22:49 |
| harlowja | clarkb checking comment | 22:49 |
| harlowja | rebasing in progress | 22:49 |
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| clarkb | harlowja: basically don't want what is happening with zookeeper to happen with redis and memcached too | 22:51 |
| harlowja | fair enough | 22:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Ensure redis and memcached are on slaves (and running) https://review.openstack.org/121221 | 22:53 |
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| harlowja | done | 22:53 |
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| clarkb | thanks | 22:54 |
| virmitio | request for troubleshooting help: getting an error from JJB when trying to use the !include, !include-raw, and !include-raw-escape tags | 22:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you should probably review 120480 as it is related to the zuul merger stuff | 22:55 |
| clarkb | virmitio: can you paste the command you are running and the error? | 22:55 |
| virmitio | cmd: jenkins-jobs test /usr/local/src/jenkins_jobs/job-01.yaml | 22:56 |
| virmitio | error: yaml.constructor.ConstructorError: could not determine a constructor for the tag '!include' | 22:56 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think we fixed that by removing lxml from zuul | 22:56 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: oh right, we moved it to test-requirements.txt | 22:56 |
| clarkb | virmitio: how did you install jenkins job builder? I think this is a relatively new feature and if you didn't install via source may not get it | 22:57 |
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| virmitio | clarkb: installed via pip on a ubuntu 14.04 box. pip reports it as "jenkins-job-builder (0.8.1)". online docs for JJB show they're for 0.8.1.95, but I don't know how to check previous versions of the docs to see when feature first appeared | 22:59 |
| clarkb | virmitio: one sec | 23:00 |
| clarkb | virmitio: yup it looks like that is a new feature since the 0.8.1 release | 23:00 |
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| clarkb | virmitio: if you want the feature you can install from source by cloning the repo `git clone https://git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder` then using pip to install from that repo `cd jenkins-job-builder && pip install .` | 23:01 |
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| virmitio | clarkb: well, that explains my issue. any guess when a newer release may be available via pip? | 23:02 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: I approved 121776, but there's no zuul configuration so you won't be able to merge changes. | 23:02 |
| clarkb | virmitio: no, I am not sure when they plan on pushing the next release | 23:03 |
| virmitio | clarkb: fair enough. much appreciated | 23:03 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: you probably have about 10-20 minutes to push a new patchset if you change your mind :) | 23:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Stop running non-voting oslo.db-python33 in gate https://review.openstack.org/120835 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add missing merge-check and noop-jobs to layout.yaml https://review.openstack.org/120352 | 23:05 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: No zuul configuration? | 23:05 |
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| * SpamapS re-reads http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html | 23:05 | |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: a change to layout.yaml to tell zuul about it | 23:05 |
| SpamapS | dohh I missed the noop jobs thing | 23:06 |
| SpamapS | I went "oh see we don't need gate jobs" | 23:06 |
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| SpamapS | curse me and my skimming ways | 23:06 |
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| clarkb | fungi: does 119426 cause problems with the py34 migration? I guess we run under py34 and find out | 23:08 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: thanks for the heads up | 23:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add tripleo-ansible to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/121776 | 23:08 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I am running py34 for those too locally really quickly to see if there is anything to see | 23:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add a docs job for manila https://review.openstack.org/121583 | 23:14 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Translate oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/119652 | 23:15 |
| derekh | jeblair: ok, I'm going to add something into the tripleo tests to detect if a node had been previously used, | 23:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Some third-party.rst cleanup https://review.openstack.org/119893 | 23:15 |
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| jeblair | derekh: what are you going to do? | 23:18 |
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| clarkb | fungi: oslo.log passes py34 but oslo.utils does not | 23:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: not sure if you want us to be adding voting py33 jobs while we try to move to py34 | 23:19 |
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| clarkb | *voting py33 jobs that do not pass py34 | 23:19 |
| jeblair | derekh: i ask because i think the scope of what you're looking for needs to be expanded. considering the logs say that we did not re-use the node, we should consider things like "nova re-used the disk image" as well. | 23:21 |
| jeblair | basically, anything should be on the table :) | 23:21 |
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| derekh | jeblair: something like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122018/1/toci_devtest.sh,cm | 23:22 |
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| derekh | jeblair: yup, agreed it may be a nova problem either, I'll take a look through the nova logs aswell (probably in the morning at this stage) and see if I can spot anything weird going on | 23:24 |
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| jeblair | derekh: okay; i'm about to leave a comment on that change | 23:24 |
| derekh | jeblair: ok | 23:25 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: thanks for the quick re-review. :) | 23:26 |
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| jeblair | derekh: commented | 23:28 |
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| derekh | jeblair: thanks, new version up, clocking off will pick it back up in the AM | 23:43 |
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