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| mordred | look! it's a mattoliverau and a jhesketh | 00:23 |
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| mordred | that means I can go hassle mikal about nova... | 00:23 |
| mordred | (although I value both of you as humans and not just as barometers of mikal) | 00:24 |
| mordred | mikal: I wanted to yell at you for something - but then I drank beer and forgot | 00:25 |
| mattoliverau | mordred: lol, I'm glad we can be of use... and not actually have to do anything :P | 00:28 |
| mordred | sdague, mikal: oh - btw - this isn't yelling ... but have you seen "untriaged-bot" in #tripleo ? | 00:28 |
| mordred | sdague, mikal: if spams channel periodically for any untriaged bugs ... thought if you wanted to do inbox zero in nova, maybe it's an idea | 00:29 |
| mikal | mordred: good story | 00:29 |
| mordred | lifeless: also, maybe some of those bots you have in #tripleo want to be patches to infra ... | 00:29 |
| mikal | (The forgotten nova thing) | 00:29 |
| mordred | mattoliverau: I always value you ... | 00:29 |
| mordred | mattoliverau: you can test my new library and see if it makes you happy before I release it as 1.0.0 and make all of openstack start consuming it ... | 00:30 |
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| mattoliverau | :) | 00:30 |
| mordred | mikal: OH! I may have been thinking I wanted to yell at you for rackspace things ... but I've figured the glance issue out | 00:31 |
| mordred | mikal: so realy, at thiat point, the only thing I'd have would be "why isn't rax running designate yet" - but that's not really all that fair ... | 00:31 |
| mordred | mikal: unless you can fix the lack of api version discoverability in glance ... | 00:32 |
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| mikal | mordred: I have very little to do wth public cloud deployment... | 00:35 |
| mikal | Unfortunately | 00:35 |
| mordred | mikal: I reject that answer - I choose to believe that you are all powerful and can fix anything | 00:35 |
| mikal | LOL | 00:35 |
| mikal | So, has someone in infra filed a support request? | 00:35 |
| mikal | That's a good first step | 00:36 |
| mordred | LOL | 00:36 |
| mikal | Also, I can introduce you to the right person if you'd like an email... | 00:36 |
| mordred | I usually just poke pvo or troytoman | 00:36 |
| mordred | but I think they've learned to duck me | 00:36 |
| mikal | Heh | 00:37 |
| mikal | So, I'm tyring to remember the guys last name | 00:38 |
| mikal | He comes to summits etc | 00:38 |
| JayF | jlk I think is who you're talking about. | 00:38 |
| JayF | if you're talking about the actual mechanics of the deployments | 00:38 |
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| mikal | Brian Rosmaita is who I am thinking of | 00:39 |
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| mordred | mikal: so, if I send him a pony, he'll deploy designate for me?/ | 00:41 |
| mikal | mordred: no, he's the glance guy | 00:41 |
| mikal | I'd have to go fishing to work out who the DNS person is | 00:41 |
| mordred | oh - I figured out glance | 00:41 |
| mordred | it's actually NOT rackspace's fault | 00:41 |
| mordred | I thought it was | 00:41 |
| mordred | it just turns out that glance is that amazingly broken | 00:41 |
| mordred | I was manually selecting the wrong API version | 00:42 |
| mordred | and not realizing that neither teh service or the library could handle that | 00:42 |
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| mordred | mikal: (I'm trying to be helpful with patches and not just yelling at people) | 00:43 |
| mordred | SlickNik: why do I want options for specifying a service_name, a service_type, and endpoint_type AND a database_service_name ? | 00:44 |
| mordred | SlickNik: not snarking - wondering if there is a semantic difference I'm not picking up on | 00:45 |
| mordred | SlickNik: btw - look at https://github.com/emonty/shade for what I'm having to do to connect to trove sanely | 00:49 |
| mordred | SlickNik: it's honestly not bad - the worst part is that I have to kind of magic introspect the keystone catalog by hand to figure out the API version | 00:50 |
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| lifeless | mordred: that would be cool; rpodlyka is the cnotact | 01:16 |
| lifeless | mordred: re glance you wanted v1 but asked for v2? | 01:17 |
| lifeless | mordred: or vice versa | 01:17 |
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| mordred | lifeless: I wanted working - I believe I asked for v1 beause cargo-cult - and I believe the cloud is v2 | 01:21 |
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| dtroyer | mordred: nice… want some PRs? | 01:51 |
| dtroyer | I'm trying it in OSC... | 01:51 |
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| mordred | awesome! and yes! | 02:01 |
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| dtroyer | two simple things I needed to use against our clouds | 02:17 |
| dtroyer | the env vars is subjective, that's how I would prefer to use it | 02:17 |
| dtroyer | FWIW my WIP branch that works ugly is at https://github.com/dtroyer/python-openstackclient/tree/os-cloud-config | 02:19 |
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| larsks | fyi: I'm getting 500 errors trying to access things on paste.openstack.org. | 02:56 |
| larsks | ...but not consistently. | 02:56 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: seet. I'll pull that and poke around | 03:18 |
| mordred | dtroyer: PRs merged. thanks! | 03:20 |
| dtroyer | mordred: one more simple one | 03:22 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: merged. just added you to the repo, too - so feel free to push and stuff | 03:24 |
| dtroyer | cool, thanks | 03:24 |
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| dtroyer | mordred: what would you think about changing 'project_id' to just 'project'? | 03:29 |
| mordred | dtroyer: I could be on board with that ... I'm assuming we'd read the values of project_id, tenant_name and project_name all in to project ? | 03:31 |
| dtroyer | mordred: yeah, something like that. we're already using it as project_name anyway…v2 keystone handles both name and ID in tenantName. Do HP/Rax handle that? | 03:34 |
| mordred | dtroyer: I have a project id for rax and a project name for hp and pass both in as project_id :) | 03:36 |
| dtroyer | mordred: then it's just a name… | 03:37 |
| mordred | so yeah - ultimately target an OS_PROJECT/cloud['project'] value - but for backwards compat, I think we can read from all 4 variables (jeez) | 03:37 |
| mordred | ? | 03:37 |
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| dtroyer | not sure where to cut the cord on compat but yeah, maybe. we'll need a flowchard to document the setting hierarchy | 03:38 |
| mordred | I think the project/tenant ones are the important ones, since it's been so confusing for so long | 03:39 |
| mordred | for domain - I think we shoudl hust start with user_domain and project_domain and skip compait | 03:39 |
| dtroyer | I'm planning to start making noise when tenant opts are used in OSC | 03:40 |
| dtroyer | agreed re domain…the only compat there is with OSC anyway ;) | 03:40 |
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| lifeless | wow 8 separate ssh connections to do git review -d X from a new repo | 03:52 |
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| lifeless | mordred: https://github.com/python-web-sig/wsgi-ng | 04:07 |
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| mikal | Does anyone know if devstack supports ceph? | 04:21 |
| dtroyer | mikal: it does, since July or so | 04:22 |
| mikal | Ahhh, cool | 04:22 |
| mikal | Does that include as instance storage for nova? | 04:22 |
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| dtroyer | I think so, lib/ceph does some nova config | 04:23 |
| mikal | Excellent, let's see if I can make this work... | 04:26 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: around ? | 05:21 |
| dstufft | lifeless: sup | 05:21 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: pip and namespace packages | 05:24 |
| lifeless | dstufft: if you clone oslo.db | 05:24 |
| lifeless | dstufft: and run pip install -e . | 05:24 |
| lifeless | dstufft: then you cannot import oslo.db afterwards | 05:24 |
| lifeless | dstufft: I'm working my way through https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1372250 | 05:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1372250 in oslo.db "cannot use top level test discovery" [High,Triaged] | 05:25 |
| dstufft | lifeless: yea, unsolvable thing | 05:26 |
| dstufft | pip issue #3 | 05:26 |
| lifeless | unsolvable? | 05:27 |
| dstufft | setupools namespace packages rely on a hack | 05:27 |
| dstufft | that hack doesn't work very well | 05:27 |
| dstufft | in particular it doesn't handle the case where you have a development package and a non development package in the same namespace installed at the same time | 05:28 |
| lifeless | the pth file stuff? its terrrible.. | 05:28 |
| dstufft | https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3 | 05:28 |
| dstufft | PEP 4something has real namespace package support for Python | 05:29 |
| dstufft | that works reasonably well | 05:29 |
| dstufft | but that's 3.x only unless you use importlib2 from PyPI | 05:29 |
| dstufft | other than that, don't use namespace packages is my best suggestion :/ | 05:29 |
| lifeless | https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3#issuecomment-1659959 seemed like a reasonable thing | 05:29 |
| lifeless | dstufft: yeah, I put that in my summary in the bug :) | 05:29 |
| lifeless | [don't use] | 05:29 |
| dstufft | import oslo_db isn't much worse than import oslo.db | 05:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | aren't all the oslo libraries (non taskflow) namespace packages :( | 05:30 |
| lifeless | harlowja_at_home: no | 05:30 |
| lifeless | harlowja_at_home: some are, some aren't | 05:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-/ | 05:30 |
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| dstufft | lifeless: I don't think that works actually? I could be wrong I think it was tried and didn't work | 05:30 |
| lifeless | dstufft: I'm reading the entire issue atm, no sign of an experiment yet | 05:31 |
| lifeless | dstufft: would you be open to such a patch? | 05:31 |
| dstufft | if it works yea | 05:31 |
| lifeless | a related thing | 05:32 |
| lifeless | pip install . | 05:32 |
| lifeless | pip install -e . | 05:32 |
| lifeless | look at how there is still the .pth file from the first install | 05:32 |
| lifeless | you can then do pip uninstall oslo.db twice | 05:32 |
| lifeless | that seems -bong- - is there an issue for that? | 05:32 |
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| dstufft | I seem to recall there being one | 05:33 |
| dstufft | I don't know it offhand that | 05:33 |
| lifeless | k | 05:33 |
| dstufft | I can only keep so many issue numbers in my head ;) | 05:33 |
| lifeless | fair enough | 05:35 |
| lifeless | dstufft: anything special I kneed to know before hacking on pip ? | 05:35 |
| dstufft | the test suites take a long ass time, and churn disk a lot | 05:35 |
| dstufft | also hit the internet | 05:36 |
| dstufft | I suggest running tox -e py34 -- -m unit at aleast at first | 05:36 |
| dstufft | those are fast | 05:36 |
| StevenK | dstufft: Long time? lifeless used to hack on Launchpad, where the testsuite took ~4.5 hours :-) | 05:37 |
| lifeless | thats why I parallelised it | 05:37 |
| lifeless | so it didn't :) | 05:37 |
| lifeless | StevenK: did you see os-client-config above? | 05:37 |
| lifeless | dstufft: what python versions do you want me to test with before pushing up? | 05:38 |
| StevenK | lifeless: I have now. Let me poke | 05:38 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I strongly expect it to overlap the cli utils code | 05:39 |
| lifeless | dstufft: what does it hit internet for? | 05:39 |
| dstufft | to isntall stuff | 05:40 |
| dstufft | I normally just test Python 3.4 tbh | 05:40 |
| dstufft | I'm lazy and let travis do most of my testing | 05:40 |
| lifeless | dstufft: I have a full bandersnatch mirror :) | 05:40 |
| dstufft | I don't think it'll use it | 05:40 |
| dstufft | we try to isolate from the system settings | 05:40 |
| lifeless | dstufft: though for some reason I found it had some stuff in the simple index.html page that isn't in the packages tree, which was odd | 05:40 |
| lifeless | dstufft: ok, so the first yak is to allow me to override that :P | 05:41 |
| StevenK | Haha | 05:41 |
| lifeless | dstufft: right, py34 tests passed | 05:41 |
| StevenK | lifeless: I was just thinking "Ooh, there's a yak" | 05:41 |
| lifeless | StevenK: you don't want to know how deep the yak goes | 05:41 |
| mordred | that mixed metaphor is gross | 05:42 |
| lifeless | StevenK: mike bayer is hacking on oslo.db; clarkb and i say he should be using testresources; that leads to two bugfixes for Python itself (one pending coding now, the other merged) | 05:42 |
| StevenK | It's not one yak, it's just yaks all the way down | 05:42 |
| lifeless | StevenK: then we uncover in discussion that oslo.db can't be edited live, it has to be full installed every time, which is this thing | 05:42 |
| lifeless | and that thing being broken breaks test discovery, which is why oslo.db (and probably every oslo package) has /tests not /$name/tests/ | 05:43 |
| lifeless | mordred: ^ | 05:43 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: any suggestions on what test_install* file to put the test in? | 05:45 |
| lifeless | dstufft: there be lots yarrr | 05:45 |
| dstufft | i dunno, we don't take it too serious about which one is which | 05:46 |
| dstufft | just rough categories | 05:46 |
| lifeless | dstufft: https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/issue/250/develop-and-install-single-version | 05:47 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: seems like someone with a handle on it thinkgs its fixable | 05:56 |
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| BobBall | does anyone know why infra's config pulls in Java? Do we have openstack components that depend on Java? | 11:46 |
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| jhesketh | BobBall: when does it pull in java? | 11:59 |
| jhesketh | it's used for gerrit & jenkins etc | 11:59 |
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| BobBall | /Stage[main]/Jenkins::Slave/Package[openjdk-7-jdk]/ensure: ensure changed 'purged' to 'present' | 11:59 |
| jhesketh | BobBall: ah, the slaves probably need it for certain jobs.. for example building war files | 12:00 |
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| jhesketh | BobBall: for the jenkins gearman plugin | 12:01 |
| BobBall | ah :( | 12:01 |
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| BobBall | There is a very annoying Java bug in Ubuntu Trusty's kernel... | 12:02 |
| jhesketh | BobBall: what is it affecting? | 12:02 |
| BobBall | If it's just gearman I don't know how Java is being run... | 12:02 |
| BobBall | XenServer CI - trying to upgrade to Trusty but getting guest-hangs and the main clue at the moment is the dmesg output which points to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1308796 | 12:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308796 in linux "Bad page map in openjdk-7 (dup-of: 1313450)" [Undecided,In progress] | 12:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1313450 in linux "Unable to start vsftpd on Ubuntu 14.04 (Amazon/EC2 or Xen) with default configuration" [High,Fix released] | 12:03 |
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| BobBall | It's been fixed for U but not backported to T yet :/ | 12:03 |
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| jhesketh | BobBall: hmm, curious... infra have managed to upgrade to Trusty, I wonder if they needed a backport | 12:05 |
| BobBall | It looks like it's an on-xen bug so if you run Trusty in HP it's fine | 12:06 |
| BobBall | Trusty in RAX is likely to not-be-fine... | 12:06 |
| BobBall | although I'm not certain if the dmesg output is the cause of the guest hangs | 12:06 |
| BobBall | and we're also trying to find other evidence of things going wrong in parallel | 12:06 |
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| jhesketh | BobBall: I /think/ we have trusty nodes in rax, but I'm not sure if they are being consumed for jobs yet | 12:09 |
| BobBall | hmmm - I'm failing on prepare_node_devstack.sh or install_puppet.sh (I guess there is some race somewhere) - one of the two always stalls for me... | 12:10 |
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| jhesketh | BobBall: more likely the prepare where java is installed, but I'm only guessing | 12:11 |
| fungi | we do have drvstack-trusty and bare-trusty nodes in rax dfw, iad and ord in use for a variety of production jobs | 12:11 |
| fungi | s/drvstack/devstack/ | 12:11 |
| jhesketh | yay, somebody smarter than me... | 12:12 |
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| jhesketh | fungi: have you seen any java issues in upgrading to Trusty? | 12:12 |
| BobBall | Any way you can test if you're getting the output on dmesg (/var/log/syslog) seen at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1308796 ? | 12:12 |
| fungi | berendt: looks like openstackgerrit was lost to a netsplit or irc server outage over the weekend... i'll kick it back in | 12:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308796 in linux "Bad page map in openjdk-7 (dup-of: 1313450)" [Undecided,In progress] | 12:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1313450 in linux "Unable to start vsftpd on Ubuntu 14.04 (Amazon/EC2 or Xen) with default configuration" [High,Fix released] | 12:12 |
| fungi | jhesketh: BobBall: checking | 12:13 |
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| berendt | fungi: thanks | 12:13 |
| jhesketh | BobBall: I don't have root, but looks like fungi is on it :-) | 12:13 |
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| fungi | berendt: openstackgerrit has returned now | 12:15 |
| fungi | jhesketh: BobBall: our bare-trusty and devstack-trusty images built successfully in all providers/regions ~21 hours ago | 12:16 |
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| BobBall | ok thanks fungi | 12:17 |
| fungi | BobBall: are you hitting that when updating nodepool images, or when booting instances from the resulting snapshots? | 12:17 |
| BobBall | updating the image | 12:17 |
| BobBall | prepare_node.sh never returns (the puppet apply hangs) | 12:17 |
| fungi | BobBall: where does it hang (do you get any output at all from it applying the manifest)? | 12:18 |
| BobBall | Well, in fact, we've had two issues... That's the first one, but the second one is something seems to wipe out /tmp so /tmp/forwarding.conf doesn't exist :D | 12:18 |
| BobBall | yes, lots fungi, it stalls immediately after trying to change the modes for SSH | 12:18 |
| BobBall | (Oh, and I also had another problem with dist-upgrade failing in kmod so I added a retry in for that which fixed that... ... ...) | 12:19 |
| fungi | weird | 12:19 |
| * BobBall grumbles. | 12:19 | |
| BobBall | Lots. | 12:19 |
| fungi | i don't think i've seen us hit any of that | 12:19 |
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| BobBall | I'm not surprised - I should point out we're not actually using RAX's trusty image because it's in a DomU - we install the image from scratch (this was implemented before we could download from glance from RAX and we needed it as a nested VM. We're looking at trying to download from glance too) | 12:20 |
| fungi | ahh | 12:21 |
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| fungi | yeah, we're still building from their ubuntu 14.04 lts base images | 12:21 |
| BobBall | I was, however, hopeful that you were getting the same issues and had fixes :D | 12:21 |
| jhesketh | BobBall: does the java version have anything to do with the bug? for example, you could get prepare_node to set up a different version | 12:22 |
| BobBall | It seems that I still haven't learned that the XenServer CI is a whole world of special one-off pain. | 12:22 |
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| BobBall | fungi: INFO:nodepool.image.build.rax-dfw.XSDSVM:Notice: /Stage[main]/Ssh/File[/etc/ssh/sshd_config]/mode: mode changed '0644' to '0444' | 12:22 |
| BobBall | fungi: that was the last output from puppet | 12:23 |
| fungi | yeah, so presumably whatever it wants to do after that is what's hanging | 12:23 |
| fungi | if you have a log from the last successful run, you might be able to infer what should come next | 12:23 |
| BobBall | any idea how to track what it's trying to do now? | 12:23 |
| BobBall | I don't - we've just rebased config (we had our own branch) so I don't know what the next thing should be | 12:24 |
| BobBall | (this is all part of the needing to upgrade from Saucy... our config branch was 'so old' it didn't support trusty) | 12:24 |
| fungi | if you have ssh access, you might be able to poke around in the system and figure out its state or what's running as a child process of puppet agent | 12:24 |
| BobBall | No child processes of puppet :) | 12:24 |
| BobBall | oh - hang on - this time there are... | 12:25 |
| BobBall | restarting dbus... | 12:25 |
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| BobBall | I mean ssh *bad grep foo* | 12:25 |
| AJaeger | fungi, jhesketh, could you review https://review.openstack.org/122928 , please? This should further reduce the translations proposed... | 12:26 |
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| fungi | BobBall: if you kill any running sshd processes, does it resume applying? | 12:27 |
| BobBall | I'll test that soon... want to gather some more info before I kill my access :D | 12:27 |
| fungi | yeah, could be that it actually *is* hanging on the sshd restart itself | 12:27 |
| fungi | i take it you lack out-of-band (virtual console) access to the instance | 12:28 |
| jhesketh | AJaeger: lgtm | 12:28 |
| AJaeger | thanks, jhesketh | 12:28 |
| BobBall | Indeed. You do not want to know why. It is seriously ugly. | 12:29 |
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| BobBall | grrrr.... so a manual restart of ssh works fungi ... puppet's "restart ssh" did not succeed but a manual one restarted puppet | 12:31 |
| fungi | as in resumed the puppet apply run | 12:31 |
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| BobBall | yes - and that caused the failure for /tmp being cleared somewhere in puppet's apply config | 12:32 |
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| BobBall | (/tmp/forwarding.conf is created at the start of the prepare_node.sh script but /tmp is empty at the end of the script when it uses it again) | 12:33 |
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| fungi | BobBall: is it maybe installing tmpreaper or something along those lines? | 12:34 |
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| BobBall | fungi: that might also explain why update-initramfs fails (if /tmp disappeared during the apply) | 12:36 |
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| fungi | BobBall: another possibility is that something is remounting /tmp on another mount point (using tmpfs maybe?) | 12:39 |
| BobBall | ohhh | 12:39 |
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| BobBall | fungi: I don't suppose you could give me an image update log from a successful update you had in RAX? It'd be useful to understand what was installed and what wasn't (e.g. I just noticed in my dist-upgrade it's installing things like base-files which sounds as though it might mess with /tmp) | 12:44 |
| fungi | BobBall: they're published at http://nodepool.openstack.org/ | 12:45 |
| BobBall | wonderful!! | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxime Vidori proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add flame project on StackForge https://review.openstack.org/123113 | 12:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added robust message publisher and subscriber https://review.openstack.org/119266 | 12:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Migration CLI framework https://review.openstack.org/122047 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Improve filtering of translations https://review.openstack.org/122928 | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Quicknav is now even quicker! https://review.openstack.org/122267 | 12:59 |
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| EmilienM | Hi there, I would like a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120285/ - "Introduce tripleo-puppet-elements into Stackforge", this patch already has positive reviews. Thanks | 13:03 |
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| sdague | fungi: hmmm... dns get bad again - https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/2503/console ? | 13:11 |
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| fungi | sdague: i think the network in rax-dfw just goes sideways from time to time. did we get a spike in those errors? | 13:12 |
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| sdague | was just spot checking fails in the gate | 13:14 |
| fungi | it does seem to be intermittent, we git a cluster of those in various rax regions back on saturday all in the span of a couple hours | 13:14 |
| fungi | s/git/got/ | 13:14 |
| fungi | damned finger memory | 13:14 |
| sdague | any idea if it's something a retry helps on? | 13:15 |
| fungi | that might be made harder by the fact that we're using a local resolver cache now | 13:15 |
| sdague | gotcha | 13:15 |
| sdague | I can't remember, do we have the facility to do a zuul level restart on those? | 13:16 |
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| sdague | which would spin them to another node? | 13:16 |
| fungi | so that's a case of unbound on the worker tried to get teh address of git.o.o from google's 8.8.8.8 nameserver and ended up with a negative response or timeout | 13:16 |
| fungi | no, zuul automatically restarts when it looks like the worker dies/loses contact with jenkins, but this issue manifests as a job failure instead | 13:17 |
| sdague | gotcha | 13:17 |
| fungi | anyway, the best answer i have for the cluster of these which were hit on saturday is that rackspace had some sort of network connectivity impacting their ability to reach google's network | 13:17 |
| fungi | (noting that we resolve names from google because it was more reliable than using rackspace's nameservers) | 13:18 |
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| fungi | the other possibility is that google's resolvers tried to refresh their cache from rackspace (where the openstack.org domain is hosted) and timed out or got a negative response from the rackspace authoritative nameservers | 13:19 |
| fungi | also possible that google took down the name services at 8.8.8.8 for a little while, though that seems even less likely | 13:20 |
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| sdague | yeh, I really doubt it's google going down | 13:22 |
| sdague | it's just frustrating to be dying on something as simple as a dns look :) | 13:24 |
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| fungi | having been a sysadmin for a very large network of nameservers for many years, i can definitively say there's nothing simple about it ;) | 13:25 |
| sdague | heh :) | 13:28 |
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| sdague | this morning is one of those times where freshness check for the gate would help | 13:31 |
| sdague | horizon changes can't pass unit tests right now | 13:31 |
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| fungi | known issue i assume | 13:34 |
| sdague | I don't know | 13:37 |
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| sdague | horizon devs seem to still be approving changse, so I guess not | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bradley Jones proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add updated column to the list of changes https://review.openstack.org/122176 | 13:40 |
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| BobBall | fungi: I'm wondering if my problem is a race... Trusty has an /etc/init/mounted-tmp which clears /tmp when it is mounted, but we push things into /tmp as soon as SSH is started... I don't really understand upstart's lack of dependencies but it seems that they could be started in parallel (or even SSH first) meaning that when nodepool runs the scripts /tmp might not have been cleaned yet? | 13:44 |
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| sdague | fungi: oh, it looks like the horizon team figured it out and put a change in for it | 13:49 |
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| fungi | BobBall: yeah, that doesn't sound great | 13:53 |
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| BobBall | If that is the problem, it's likely that you'll hit it at some point too (or perhaps hit it but nodepool's image rebuild avoids the race eventually) | 13:56 |
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| fungi | BobBall: well, it may be that most of that is already set up on the base images we're starting from, but also we're in the process of forklifting that design out and replacing it with a solution which uses diskimage-builder | 13:57 |
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| jroll | good morning :) | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add bug for glance failing to start on stable https://review.openstack.org/123134 | 13:58 |
| BobBall | oh :( So you're planning to use dib to run things like the puppet config 'offline'? | 13:58 |
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| fungi | right. and then uploads the result to all providers using glance | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Teselkin proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Add per-provider env vars https://review.openstack.org/116993 | 14:01 |
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| fungi | i think the biggest issues ended up being around some puppet modules (for example mysql) not working well in a chroot, wanting to start services, et cetera | 14:02 |
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| BobBall | *nod* There's a nice way to stop services starting in a Ubuntu chroot - dunno if there is similar for CentOS | 14:04 |
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| BobBall | http://jpetazzo.github.io/2013/10/06/policy-rc-d-do-not-start-services-automatically/ | 14:04 |
| fungi | well, that much was tractable, i think some puppet modules ensure->running or something though and then break when they can't actually start the service | 14:04 |
| AJaeger | fungi, thanks for quick review and approval! Sorry, was out to reply in time. | 14:04 |
| BobBall | oh | 14:05 |
| BobBall | duh | 14:05 |
| BobBall | of course... | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: remove glance not starting signature https://review.openstack.org/123136 | 14:05 |
| fungi | which is a poor design | 14:05 |
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| jeblair | we should never use ensure=>running | 14:07 |
| fungi | right, i think this was within a puppetlabs module though | 14:10 |
| dprince | morning, so I've built a yum puppet module and I'd like to upload it into the openstackci on puppet forge. How do I go about doing that? Would it be easier for me just to publish under dprince/ where I have permissions? | 14:10 |
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| jroll | infra core have a moment to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112693/ ? (adds a CI job for a second ironic driver) | 14:13 |
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| dprince | fungi/jeblair: ^^ question about uploading puppet modules to openstackci? | 14:19 |
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| fungi | dprince: modules in openstackci on puppetforge need to be openstack-infra projects (are we currently using that module?) | 14:20 |
| dprince | fungi: it is an openstack-infra project. And I'd like to start using it but this is the blocker | 14:20 |
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| fungi | dprince: ahh, yep. i see it there | 14:21 |
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| dprince | fungi: trying to pick this up again here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95787/ | 14:21 |
| dprince | fungi: mainly to help w/ some of the TripleO ci jobs. but we can use it for other things as well | 14:22 |
| jeblair | dprince: we now have a facility to install from source | 14:22 |
| jeblair | dprince: and i think the plan is to use that for all the infra/puppet-* modules | 14:23 |
| jeblair | dprince: and there's even an integration test for them | 14:23 |
| dprince | jeblair: oh! | 14:23 |
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| dprince | jeblair: let me rebase and give that a go then, thanks | 14:23 |
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| jeblair | dprince: np. mimic what we do with puppet-storyboard | 14:24 |
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| jeblair | dprince: it's the only module integrated like that right now, but it's the first of what will be like 30. :) | 14:24 |
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| john-davidge | Is this 'module' object has no attribut 'ClientException' issue in Jenkins known? | 14:28 |
| john-davidge | I don't see anythin on eleastic recheck | 14:28 |
| fungi | john-davidge: do you have a link to a job which hit it? | 14:28 |
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| rdopieralski | john-davidge: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1372416 | 14:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1372416 in horizon "Test failures due to removed ClientException from Ceilometer client" [Critical,In progress] | 14:29 |
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| john-davidge | rdopieralski: thanks | 14:30 |
| fungi | ahh, yeah all of horizon's unit tests were broken by that earlier | 14:30 |
| fungi | and i guess still are until that fix lands | 14:31 |
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| john-davidge | fungi: yeah, it seems to be effecting everything right now, will wait for the fix to be merged | 14:31 |
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| fungi | john-davidge: hopefully not _everything_, just horizon? | 14:32 |
| john-davidge | fungi: ah yes sorry, Horizon == everything to me this afternoon :) | 14:33 |
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| fungi | heh, fair enough | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: gerrit-review.googlesource.com uses basic authentication https://review.openstack.org/122950 | 14:40 |
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| jeblair | tagged gertty 1.0.3 | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | i don't know if the logstash job queue has been below 30K in a week | 14:44 |
| HeOS | Hi to all. I tested my changes on a gerrit ver. 2.4-2.8 and only on version 2.4 changes not worked correctly, but on other versions all work correct Do you need to support jeepyb on gerrit version 2.4? I'm about this: https://review.openstack.org/117199 and https://review.openstack.org/120747. | 14:44 |
| fungi | HeOS: i'd be okay with only supporting 2.8 and later in jeepyb, since openstack infra no longer uses older than that. but others may disagree and feel that's not very friendly to downstreams who may still run older jeepyb. maybe we need to tag a new major release and note that we're dropping old gerrit support? | 14:47 |
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| jeblair | HeOS: it might be worth a message to openstack-infra to ask if people are still using 2.4 | 14:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: that's a good idea | 14:49 |
| fungi | yeah, the -infra ml is a good place to poll for opinions on that since we do have some downstream users subscribing there | 14:50 |
| HeOS | jeblair, do you mean mail-list ? | 14:51 |
| jeblair | HeOS: yes | 14:52 |
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| dprince | fungi/jeblair: would one of you be up for tagging 0.1.0 of git://git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/puppet-yum for me? | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update signature for pip download timeout bug 1270710 https://review.openstack.org/123147 | 14:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1270710 in openstack-ci "sporadic pip timeouts during download" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270710 | 14:53 |
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| * dprince could go to the trouble to create ACL's for this but isn't sure it is worth it | 14:53 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Oscar Romero (homeless) proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: hostname & subnode-hostname is taken from targets instead of labels https://review.openstack.org/123149 | 14:55 |
| fungi | dprince: please submit an acl change so that we can tag it | 14:55 |
| dprince | fungi: hmmm. I thought the group openstackci would have rights to this already? | 14:56 |
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| fungi | dprince: the acl for that project doesn't allow anyone to push signed tags | 14:57 |
| fungi | i could "elevate" my permissions by way of my gerrit admin access, but that's bad process | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oscar Romero (homeless) proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: hostname & subnode-hostname is taken from targets instead of labels https://review.openstack.org/123149 | 14:58 |
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| dprince | fungi: okay, I'll have a look | 14:59 |
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| krotscheck | StoryBoard meeting in #openstack-meeting | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Disable notifications in storyboard" https://review.openstack.org/123152 | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add bug for glance failing to start on stable https://review.openstack.org/123134 | 15:07 |
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| HeOS | fungi, jeblair Ok, I will send a message in this mail-list with question about people which use gerrit ver. 2.4. | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: remove glance not starting signature https://review.openstack.org/123136 | 15:15 |
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| HeOS | I have a one question: has the jeepyb the ability to create internal user? | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Allow infra to tag puppet-yum git https://review.openstack.org/123160 | 15:25 |
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| dprince | fungi: | 15:25 |
| jd__ | fungi: why do I keep getting "cannot find tooz>=0.4" on some of the Jenkins node like in http://logs.openstack.org/04/122704/1/check/gate-gnocchi-pep8/a7c64df/console.html where tooz has been released 3 days ago (and some Jenkins node can install it and some not :( ) ? | 15:26 |
| fungi | HeOS: jeepyb doesn't (currently) create user accounts of any kind | 15:26 |
| fungi | jd__: sounds like we may have a stale mirror somewhere. i have a change proposed to help prevent that from persisting but it still needs reviews. in the meantime, i'll give our pypi mirrors a quick checkup | 15:27 |
| jd__ | fungi: you rule | 15:27 |
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| fungi | yep, bandersnatch on pypi.region-b.geo-1.openstack.org has been hung since some time on thursday | 15:29 |
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| fungi | hung at/after its 22:45 utc run on 2014-09-18 | 15:30 |
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| sdague | fungi: also looks like we're at about 20% capacity based on the amount of nodes in building / delete | 15:34 |
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| fungi | jd__: yep, same symptoms as https://bitbucket.org/pypa/bandersnatch/issue/52 i opened last week | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: ModuleRegistry now cache entry points group https://review.openstack.org/123163 | 15:35 |
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| jd__ | fungi: ok :/ | 15:36 |
| fungi | anyway, i've killed the hung process so hopefully it will update successfully over the next 15 minutes | 15:36 |
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| fungi | the mirrors in other regions were fine, but unfortunately pypi.region-b.geo-1.openstack.org serves the majority of our workers so would be getting hit a lot more frequently, and that's where it was 4 days behind | 15:39 |
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| fungi | neat, hpcloud is returning a 500 error on some requests... i wonder if we've leaked static ips there again | 15:42 |
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| fungi | ahh, yep, it's coming from self._create("/os-floating-ips", {'pool': pool}, "floating_ip") | 15:43 |
| fungi | sdague: i'll get them cleaned up and that should hopefully improve the situation there | 15:43 |
| sdague | fungi: thanks much sir | 15:44 |
| mordred | dhellmann: so, I've got a question about whether or not something should be an oslo library when you have a sec | 15:44 |
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| dhellmann | mordred: fire when ready | 15:45 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I made a library over the weekend that dtroyer is starting to poke at using in python-openstackclient | 15:45 |
| mordred | dhellmann: its goal in life is to handle local cloud config to use when connecting to openstack clouds | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:45 |
| mordred | so, grab all the connection params frmo env vars and also from a config file - and provide an interface to using those things to make cloud objects | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | that sounds like something we might want in the sdk project | 15:46 |
| mordred | it's maybe 2 steps away from being completely finished | 15:46 |
| mordred | yes - it's driven by work I've been doing that I want to go into the sdk project | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | does it use oslo.config, or a simple ini parser? | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | it probably doesn't need oslo.config, I'm just curious | 15:47 |
| mordred | it does not, because it wants to be able to express multiple clouds | 15:47 |
| mordred | dhellmann: https://github.com/emonty/os-client-config | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure what that reason means. | 15:47 |
| fungi | sdague: 431 disassociated floating ips in hpcloud are being deleted now... will take a few minutes to complete but we should see a fairly immediate improvement in capacity | 15:49 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: there's an example file in the readme there - but basically, once you start listing multiple named clouds in ini format, it starts looking strange | 15:50 |
| fungi | #status log restarted gerritbot to get it to rejoin channels | 15:51 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished logging | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | mordred: section per cloud? but yeah, I'm not arguing in favor of using oslo.config just making sure I understand the reasoning | 15:51 |
| mordred | dhellmann: but anyway - the question in my brain is - is this somethign that should be in oslo because I also want python-*client to start using it - or should it be more related to SDK | 15:51 |
| mordred | dhellmann: totes. and yeah, section per cloud | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | mordred: I would love for this to be a real thing. I would also love for us to have an SDK program, and I think this should live there. | 15:51 |
| mordred | dhellmann: great. I'll work with dean on getting that proposed then | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | oh, hrm, the client libs? I thought we wanted those to die. | 15:52 |
| mordred | we do | 15:52 |
| mordred | but they arent' going to die in the next cycle | 15:52 |
| fungi | #status log killed bandersnatch process on pypi.region-b.geo-1.openstack.org, hung since 2014-09-18 22:45 due to https://bitbucket.org/pypa/bandersnatch/issue/52 | 15:52 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished logging | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | no, true | 15:52 |
| mordred | but I could clean up their lack of consistency in about a day | 15:52 |
| mordred | (this is not complex work here :) ) | 15:52 |
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| fungi | #status log removed 431 disassociated floating ips in hpcloud | 15:52 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished logging | 15:52 |
| jeblair | sdk++ | 15:52 |
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| * mordred needs to port shade to openstacksdk and then propose a merge of it with sdk | 15:53 | |
| mordred | jeblair: so, in the mean time, I guess I should just stackforge it and we rename when we rename sdk? | 15:54 |
| fungi | yeah, i don't see any problem with shared libraries living in the clients and sdks program if that's their primary consumer. if it were used by lots of other bits of openstack too then oslo might be more appropriate | 15:54 |
| mordred | yah. this isn't needed by servers at all | 15:54 |
| anteaya | jeblair: what if any are your plans for the project-config work today? I don't want to miss any information that I need | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | mordred, fungi: I've been trying to encourage the other programs to create libraries themselves, and this looks like it fits right in with that idea. | 15:55 |
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| fungi | anteaya: i think we're reviewing https://review.openstack.org/122533 and friends (i'm hitting those right after lunch) | 15:56 |
| anteaya | kk | 15:56 |
| * anteaya reviews | 15:56 | |
| anteaya | I'm sure noone wants to ask, but I am in bad shape again. I tried to fix things by listening to tones that resets brainwaves, turns out if you do that and then have the distruptive vibrations again, it just makes things worse. | 15:58 |
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| anteaya | any feeback I could get on the structure of https://github.com/anteaya/reorganized-project-config-01 would be welcome | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add os-client-config to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/123167 | 16:02 |
| mordred | dhellmann, jeblair ^^ there ya go! | 16:02 |
| fungi | anteaya: should dev/projects.yaml be dev/gerrit/projects.yaml instead? | 16:04 |
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| fungi | anteaya: otherwise lgtm | 16:06 |
| zaro | morning | 16:07 |
| mordred | fungi: I think I told her the opposite over the weekend ... | 16:07 |
| nibalizer | pleia2: are you at puppetconf yet? | 16:08 |
| mordred | speaking of ... | 16:08 |
| fungi | mordred: oh, well jeblair had wanted to move projects.yaml into gerrit/projects.yaml so i assumed the dev sub-tree would mirror the top-level tree | 16:08 |
| mordred | oh - gotcha. I didn't realize that | 16:08 |
| mordred | gerrit/projects.yaml seems weird to me | 16:08 |
| mordred | since it gets used by a lot of thigns that are not gerrit | 16:08 |
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| mordred | but I can easily defer if there's a grander scheme | 16:09 |
| jroll | fungi: mind looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112693/ ? :) | 16:09 |
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| anteaya | fungi: thanks for taking a look | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add tests to verify oslo.messaging's use of the Apache QPID broker https://review.openstack.org/115752 | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | fungi mordred okay yes, I too had questions about that file, I will wait for jeblair to weigh in and then I am happy to move it and offer version 2 of that repo should that be the way forward | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | morning zaro | 16:12 |
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| fungi | jroll: commented | 16:20 |
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| jroll | thanks | 16:23 |
| * jroll looks | 16:23 | |
| jroll | fungi: good catch :D | 16:23 |
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| pleia2 | nibalizer: nah, speaker dinner tonight and I'm attending a few sessions tomorrow and wednesday | 16:23 |
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| pleia2 | today is contributor summit (and more training) | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sandy Walsh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Winchester - A notification event processing library based on persistent streams. https://review.openstack.org/121182 | 16:25 |
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| nibalizer | pleia2: woot! maybe we can sit together at the speakers dinner | 16:26 |
| IvanKliuk | Hi there! I need help from Openstack's Gerrit administrators. During the registration I entered bad username and there's no ability to change it on the web interface. Could anyone help me, please? | 16:26 |
| pleia2 | nibalizer: sure! | 16:26 |
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| zaro | fungi: this issue https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=1107 is a valid use case or no? | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add check job for Ironic-python-agent + Tempest https://review.openstack.org/112693 | 16:31 |
| anteaya | IvanKliuk: hi | 16:31 |
| jroll | fungi: ^ fixed | 16:31 |
| anteaya | what is the gerrit id of your accout? | 16:31 |
| anteaya | IvanKliuk: go to setting, it should be at teh bottom of the default page | 16:32 |
| IvanKliuk | 11577 | 16:32 |
| anteaya | thank you | 16:32 |
| anteaya | IvanKliuk: what name is there now and what name would you like it to be? | 16:32 |
| IvanKliuk | ivankliuk | 16:33 |
| anteaya | is that the name that is there now or the name you would like it to be? | 16:33 |
| IvanKliuk | now is ivan | 16:33 |
| anteaya | great | 16:33 |
| IvanKliuk | I'd like to have ivankliuk | 16:33 |
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| anteaya | fungi has gone to lunch once he returns he will read the backscroll, stand by in channel it might take an hour or so, he will ping you if he has questions or if he is finished | 16:34 |
| clarkb | anteaya IvanKliuk we dont really change usernames | 16:35 |
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| zaro | clarkb: noticed somebody has taken your cube spot. is this the end for you? | 16:36 |
| mordred | zaro: he moved to portland | 16:36 |
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| clarkb | zaro I think I am technically in OR as of some time last week | 16:38 |
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| vishy | could use an upvote if you have time to browse through the new section for 'wormhole' | 16:39 |
| anteaya | zaro: it is your responsiblity to now post reports on the status of the desks in that office, as to whether or not pencils roll off of them | 16:39 |
| vishy | oops wrong channel :) | 16:39 |
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| zaro | anteaya: well it is quieter :) | 16:40 |
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| zaro | clarkb: cool, didn't realize the day would come so quickly. | 16:43 |
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| anteaya | :) | 16:43 |
| jeblair | anteaya: yeah, the dev level should mirror the top level | 16:44 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thanks | 16:44 |
| clarkb | I will be around either thursday or friday. getting on train to finish packing and drive truck full of stuff south | 16:44 |
| anteaya | jeblair: in the top level projects.yaml is in gerrit | 16:44 |
| anteaya | jeblair: there is no gerrit dir in dev | 16:45 |
| anteaya | jeblair: are you saying there should be? | 16:45 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: yes | 16:46 |
| anteaya | great, it will happen | 16:46 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, can you make the third-party meeting? I'd like to discuss recheck for third-party | 16:46 |
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| mordred | jeblair: and you think projects.yaml shoudl be assocaited with gerrit rather than being in the root dir? | 16:47 |
| mordred | jeblair: mainly just asking because it's also used by git-mirror and storyboard | 16:47 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i have attempted to organize the repo for humans | 16:47 |
| jeblair | mordred: strictly speaking, it should be in a 'jeepyb' dir, but i don't think many people do or should know what that is | 16:48 |
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| jeblair | i could see putting it in the root though | 16:48 |
| mordred | yah - if it's in a dir, it should definitely be in gerrit and not jeepyb :) | 16:48 |
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| jeblair | (though nothing else is in the root, and it will have siblings like LICENSE and CONTRIBUTING, etc) | 16:48 |
| homeless | can anyone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123149/ its just a fix on documentation from nodepool that I found | 16:49 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I don't have a _problem_ with it being in gerrit - it just seemed odd to me so I thought I'd ask | 16:49 |
| jeblair | homeless: generally, unless it's an urgent issue, it's not helpful to ask for reviews in channel; most of us have tools that help us find all of the changes that need reviewing and we get to them eventually | 16:49 |
| jeblair | (if that happened for every change, the channel would be full of review requests! :) | 16:50 |
| homeless | got it jeblair, I didnt know it | 16:51 |
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| jeblair | homeless: no problem :) | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Add updated column to the list of changes https://review.openstack.org/122176 | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bradley Jones proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add ability to sort change list https://review.openstack.org/122383 | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Disable notifications in storyboard" https://review.openstack.org/123152 | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Allow infra to tag puppet-yum git https://review.openstack.org/123160 | 17:12 |
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| phschwartz | Ok, I am a little concerned. Neutron is passing the py2.6 gate and it has a test error that can't pass on 2.6 | 17:14 |
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| phschwartz | commit f103ce48 to neutron introduced an import of collections and usage of collections.OrdedDict whcih don't exists in python 2.6 | 17:15 |
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| clarkb | phschwartz maybe it is exit 0ing again? | 17:16 |
| clarkb | or they install collections from elsewhere? | 17:17 |
| phschwartz | clarkb: Didn't look like it. Here is the review I put up to fix the issue. https://review.openstack.org/123186 | 17:17 |
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| clarkb | do those tests actually run? | 17:21 |
| jeblair | picking a random change: http://logs.openstack.org/63/100963/23/check/gate-neutron-python26/f15df0b/testr_results.html.gz | 17:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb: it looks like they do | 17:22 |
| phschwartz | clarkb: They do | 17:22 |
| jeblair | pt1.10532: neutron.tests.unit.test_api_v2.APIv2TestCase.test_fields_multiple | 17:22 |
| rcarrillocruz | zaro: hi, do you know any maven plugin that does some sort of maven deploy dry-run? | 17:24 |
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| rcarrillocruz | this project will create these artifacts | 17:24 |
| jeblair | phschwartz, clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/114221/ | 17:25 |
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| jeblair | so, um, maybe redhat did another "helpful" backport? | 17:25 |
| mordred | jeblair: can you try collections.OrderedDict too? | 17:25 |
| clarkb | nice | 17:25 |
| mordred | just for completeness? | 17:25 |
| jeblair | mordred: it exists | 17:25 |
| phschwartz | collections exists in 2.6 I thought, but OrderedDict was added in 2.7 | 17:25 |
| jeblair | [corvus@10-0-0-55 ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/python2.6/collections.py | 17:26 |
| jeblair | python-libs-2.6.6-52.el6.x86_64 | 17:26 |
| phschwartz | hmm, lovely backport | 17:26 |
| phschwartz | That is a concern | 17:26 |
| mordred | jeblair: you know, if we move to gentoo for the gate, we could install stock python 2.6 and python 2.7 and python 3.3 without patches | 17:26 |
| jeblair | mordred: indeed! | 17:26 |
| phschwartz | mordred: you can with vanilla debian too | 17:26 |
| mordred | phschwartz: indeed. but vanilla debian has moved to systemd like morons | 17:26 |
| mordred | if we're going to move - we might as well move to something taht doesn't hate unix | 17:27 |
| phschwartz | mordred: true, ++ uselessd (if you have seen it) | 17:27 |
| phschwartz | what is the gate running on? centos7? | 17:27 |
| mordred | phschwartz: I have already raised internally to HP that we should put like 100 engineers on uselessd | 17:27 |
| mordred | phschwartz: 6 | 17:27 |
| phschwartz | I like uslessd | 17:27 |
| phschwartz | *uselessd | 17:27 |
| mordred | of course, I _actually_ just like sysvinit | 17:28 |
| mordred | and nobody has, as of yet, been able to tell me what problem systemd or uselessd solve | 17:28 |
| jeblair | me too. i haven't had a problem with my laptop's power/suspend system in years; until ubuntu started using systemd. sigh. | 17:28 |
| mordred | although I think someone said "it's faster" and someone else said "docker" | 17:28 |
| bswartz | mordred: allegedly, the problem is solves is that boot times are long with sysv | 17:28 |
| mordred | bswartz: I've heard that | 17:28 |
| mordred | bswartz: I'm not sure who they're trying to solve that for though | 17:28 |
| mordred | I almost never boot my laptop, because suspend/resume work fine | 17:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: well they used to | 17:29 |
| bswartz | I prefer sysv init too | 17:29 |
| mordred | and on a server, the POST takes 3 minutes, so sysvinit time is meaningless | 17:29 |
| phschwartz | Luckily we have only seen 1 issue that this backport brings to light, but it is still worrisome | 17:29 |
| mordred | so - seriously - other that fetishizing their own place in the world of linux distros, what possible ACTUALY problem is being solved? | 17:29 |
| bswartz | I don't think uselessd is useful for anything other than poking fun at systemd though | 17:29 |
| fungi | zaro: i don't think it's a valid use case for gerrit to not indicate when a change proposed to one branch is going to silently drag in refs from another branch. it indicates that nowhere in the interface | 17:30 |
| mordred | bswartz: I actually agree - but if I HAVE to have systemd - I'd ove to have a systemd that doesn't break my laptop's ACPI support | 17:30 |
| mordred | phschwartz: so - have we verified that collections.OrderedDict dose not exist in vanilla 2.6 ? | 17:30 |
| clarkb | fungi right at the very least the diff should point it out | 17:31 |
| * bswartz considers migrating to FreeBSD..... | 17:31 | |
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| clarkb | but more consistent would be to reject the push | 17:31 |
| bswartz | it will be a cold day in hell when FreeBSD adopts systemd | 17:31 |
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| phschwartz | mordred: Yes, it bit us as we were only testing on python 2.7 internal but then were trying to build out our deployment package and test it with python 2.6 (darn debian 6 vs 7) | 17:32 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I'm really not trying to be my normal reactionary self | 17:33 |
| mordred | jeblair: but I think we might want to consider that centos6 might not ACTUALLY be the right choice for 2.6 testing | 17:33 |
| mordred | jeblair: if 2.6 on centos6 is not actually 2.6 | 17:33 |
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| phschwartz | mordred: ++ | 17:33 |
| mordred | it means we're not testing the thing we want to test- namely, does this work on 2.6 | 17:34 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: https://github.com/anteaya/reorganized-project-config-02 | 17:34 |
| mordred | and if that makes our friends at redhat unhappy that centos is no longer in the gate, then someone should point out to them that continuing to backport features from other python versions is a thing they should just categorically not do | 17:34 |
| jeblair | mordred: the interesting thing about that question, is that there is no python2.6 | 17:34 |
| jeblair | mordred: it's officially retired | 17:34 |
| jeblair | mordred: except in distros that still support it, like rhel/centos | 17:35 |
| mordred | jeblair: sure- but for distros that still contain a copy of the software that was python2.6 | 17:35 |
| mordred | jeblair: it would be nice if it was actually python2.6 | 17:35 |
| jeblair | mordred: no argument there, i'm just saying the idea of a pure python2.6 is not straightforward | 17:35 |
| mordred | jeblair: OR - are you saying taht we actually only care about the centos6/rhel6 python 2.6 | 17:35 |
| mordred | since that's the only reason we sstill support it | 17:35 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i think we do (marginally) care about it because of our distro support policy | 17:36 |
| mordred | sure. but the reason stated for the current distro support policy is because of distros still shipping 2.6 | 17:36 |
| jroll | fungi: thanks for the +3 :) | 17:37 |
| mordred | (although now that rhel7 is out, I think it's actually suse that's the reason we still care) | 17:37 |
| fungi | mordred: technically, there's nothing stopping us from deciding to just build and install python interpreters from source on our test platforms. as many of them as we like, in fact. we're not really testing "does this support python 2.6" but rather "does this suppose the rhel/centos flavor of python" | 17:37 |
| mordred | fungi: exactly | 17:37 |
| mordred | fungi: which is why I'm asking - I wonder if it's the rhel/centos 2.6 we care about - or 2.6 | 17:37 |
| mordred | because we're testing one of those things and not the other right now | 17:37 |
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| fungi | i think what we're _really_ testing there is "will this proposed change imply some special hell for rhel packagers to support?" | 17:40 |
| fungi | because we don't test py26 just for the hell o fit. if it weren't for rhel being stuck on 2.6 we'd probably have already abandoned that | 17:41 |
| mordred | fungi: yah. | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add check job for Ironic-python-agent + Tempest https://review.openstack.org/112693 | 17:41 |
| mordred | well, it seems that rackspace may be deploying on old debian | 17:41 |
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| fungi | they should totally have pushed for old debian to be a supported openstack platform then ;) | 17:41 |
| phschwartz | mordred: currently debian6, and it is still barely in is support cycle. | 17:42 |
| mordred | just for the record: http://paste.openstack.org/show/114233/ | 17:42 |
| mordred | phschwartz: I probably shouldn't ask why you'redeploying neutron on debian6 should I? | 17:42 |
| zaro | fungi: from reading the bug it seems like the preference is to have gerrit indicate something instead of disallow the action? would you concur? | 17:42 |
| phschwartz | mordred: I will leave that one alone for now | 17:42 |
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| fungi | zaro: for us, i think disallowing a change which brings in refs which arn't in the target branch and which the proposer has no acl rights to push would be the best and most consistent behavior | 17:43 |
| fungi | zaro: but that fact that it will allow them silently, not even indicating so in the interface, makes the current behavior especially dangerous | 17:43 |
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| clarkb | fungi its potentially a security issue | 17:44 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yep, as it's a potential acl bypass | 17:44 |
| clarkb | push change like that to the project config | 17:44 |
| clarkb | looks simple gives everyone admin | 17:45 |
| fungi | well, someone would still have to approve the change | 17:45 |
| clarkb | yup but these changes look harmless | 17:45 |
| clarkb | so easy to get past review | 17:45 |
| fungi | but yes, if you were using project config reviews (we're not) it would indeed have that effect | 17:45 |
| zaro | ok. i thought that's what you mean from your description. but wasn't sure because of the other comments in the bug. | 17:45 |
| fungi | zaro: the bug predated our discovery, and the original bug reporter seemed to have different workflow assumptions (taking their description literally, they seem to feel that reusing the same change-id on more than one branch shouldn't be allowed) | 17:46 |
| fungi | zaro: but yes, to distill the impact to our workflow, someone can repropose a change from master to a stable branch directly, not as a cherry-pick, it looks no different from teh master change and then silently drags in all the depending refs in master | 17:47 |
| fungi | and then you find out that your stable branch has been fast-forwarded to essentially the same commits as are on master | 17:48 |
| fungi | (once the change is approved/submitted to merge) | 17:48 |
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| mordred | fungi: I wasn't following the whole thing - is this because of the UI button "propose change to" ? | 17:51 |
| fungi | mordred: nope | 17:51 |
| fungi | mordred: not in any way | 17:51 |
| mordred | ok | 17:52 |
| fungi | mordred: http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=1107 | 17:52 |
| fungi | mordred: basically the fuel-main devs came to us last week and said "halp! our stable branch fast-forwarded to master and we don't know why!" | 17:52 |
| fungi | and as first i just figured stfu pebcak but then i looked at the commit history and was all like, gerrit should have prevented this! | 17:53 |
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| mordred | fascinating | 17:54 |
| mordred | so - it shows up when one branch is fast-forward-able, yeah? | 17:54 |
| fungi | basically one of their contributors meant to cherry-pick a backport from their master branch but instead just re-submitted the master change to the stable branch, existing history on master and all | 17:54 |
| fungi | yeah, i think merge conflicts from stable to master would have impeded it | 17:54 |
| fungi | git-review didn't warn them that they had additional changes being proposed, or about the stable branch having missing commits, gerrit just showed avery trivial one-line diff for the change with no parents... | 17:55 |
| fungi | but nobody noticed the git sha was identical to the same change on master | 17:56 |
| fungi | and then when it was approved, it fast-forwarded the stable branch | 17:56 |
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| clarkb | it didnt fast forward. there was a mrrge commit | 17:57 |
| clarkb | but no conflicts apparently | 17:57 |
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| fungi | well, there was a merge commit, but the parent merge commit was the same one which was on master too | 17:57 |
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| fungi | it basically fast-forwarded to the state of master on which the proposed change was dependent, and then merged that state with the branch tip | 17:58 |
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| fungi | insofar as it was not a merge commit with the branch tip and one other commit... it was a merge with the branch tip and an entire alternate history, allowed because gerrit already knew that alternate history from another branch | 17:59 |
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| fungi | anyway, where i suspect gerrit is falling down there is when it checks to see whether the proposed change depends on ancestors which exist in the project, it's not limiting its search to ancestors which appear in the target branch | 18:01 |
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| mrmartin | re | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pin jenkins jobs of groups portal to precise https://review.openstack.org/123211 | 18:29 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: is that ^ change for basically the same reason as your https://review.openstack.org/122501 change to the openstackid jobs was? | 18:35 |
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| clarkb | bug 1372571 | 18:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1372571 in neutron "Neutron cannot possibly pass unit tests under Python 2.6" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1372571 | 18:36 |
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| clarkb | is that a wont fix? | 18:36 |
| mrmartin | fungi: I want to keep groups portal on php5.3 for a while, we had problems with php versions at a larger project with previous Drupal, and want to postpone the trusty upgrade after the summit | 18:36 |
| fungi | mrmartin: well, we're also currently running it in production on precise, so it makes sense to test it at least on precise until we decide to move that server to trusty anyway | 18:37 |
| fungi | so fine with me | 18:37 |
| mrmartin | fungi: and if we are changing to trusty we need to drop precise because php5.4 is not so backward compatible to 5.3 | 18:37 |
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| mrmartin | need to add an extra compatibility check somehow, because I exprienced event my developers can write code that is not backward compatible | 18:38 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, wontfix for infra | 18:38 |
| mrmartin | http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.incompatible.php | 18:38 |
| fungi | mrmartin: yep, totally understand. this is one of the reasons i pretend to have no experience writing applications in php ;) | 18:39 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: sometimes I have the same feelings, I prefer the framework, not the language :) | 18:39 |
| * bswartz doesn't even know how to spell php | 18:40 | |
| clarkb | it was just marked invalid. that wfm | 18:40 |
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| mordred | clarkb, fungi: I responded about it on the mailing list | 18:41 |
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| clarkb | yup thanks | 18:42 |
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| clarkb | mordred do you think we should kill 2.6 completely or phase it out as we had been planning? | 18:42 |
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| clarkb | the phase out doesnt seem too crazy but as you point out 26 is eol | 18:43 |
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| fungi | status quo will be keep using centos for testing icehouse/kilo and any libraries or clients on which they depend, and stop using it for anything newer | 18:44 |
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| fungi | but that sticks us with a year or more of continuing to run like this | 18:45 |
| clarkb | right. python-*clients and oslo probably being the biggest pain points for that year | 18:45 |
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| clarkb | in other news it looked like someone may be fixing trusty py34 | 18:47 |
| jeblair | fungi, mordred: i don't see a problem with the status-quo plan | 18:47 |
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| fungi | also, what will centos7 bring us? are we going to split half our new jobs onto trusty and half on centos7, or run everything in both places, or...? | 18:47 |
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| clarkb | fungi I think unittests on trusty because 34 and pypy. then maybe a tempest on centos7 job | 18:48 |
| clarkb | probably the pg job >_> | 18:48 |
| fungi | hah | 18:48 |
| fungi | go stick it up your postgres job? | 18:49 |
| clarkb | exactly | 18:49 |
| clarkb | I am suffering a major case of mondays today | 18:49 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, i'm fine with the plan we originally outlined for deprecating centos6/py26... after all, it was heavily discussed at a summit (more than one depending on how much of it you consider having been discussed) | 18:50 |
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| clarkb | ++ | 18:51 |
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| jeblair | mordred: what are you trying to accomplish with the ml thread? change the plan in some way? | 18:51 |
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| fungi | i think it just bears pointing out we're not *really* testing upper-case "Python 2.6" but rather just "centos/rhel 6.x" | 18:53 |
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| jeblair | except that it ends with: | 18:53 |
| jeblair | "I vote for just amending our policy right now and killing 2.6 with predudice" | 18:53 |
| * fungi is working his way down to that thread, so is still missing context from outside the irc channel | 18:53 | |
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| fungi | mrmartin: deleting tags doesn't generally go so well for a variety of caching reasons, particularly if they get replaced later with new tags using the same name. if you simply need the release jobs re-run for those tags though, i can do that | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds support for Ironic parallel Tempest testing https://review.openstack.org/118700 | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Reset the client object before creating the image https://review.openstack.org/74943 | 18:57 |
| mrmartin | fungi: ok, not a big deal I can leave with 1.0.1 | 18:57 |
| fungi | mrmartin: or if you want a newer release, you can just tag a later version number and the jobs should re-run | 18:58 |
| mrmartin | fungi: thanks, I did that | 18:58 |
| fungi | okay, cool | 18:59 |
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| fungi | jeblair: clarkb: mordred: any objections to me tagging a 0.1.0 release of openstack-infra/puppet-yum at dprince's request? | 19:00 |
| clarkb | none from me | 19:00 |
| jeblair | nope | 19:01 |
| daya_k | anteaya : reminder to look at enabling ibm sdnve ci, emagana reviewed and okayed the logs | 19:01 |
| fungi | i gather there are no release jobs needed since it would simply be deployed from the git repository source so no tarball or other complications | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Kolla project - Dockerizing OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/122972 | 19:01 |
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| fungi | dprince: f5587358 ("Update module name per CI conventions.") is what you want tagged as 0.1.0? | 19:02 |
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| ociuhandu | krtaylor: can we continue the talk started on the -meeting here? | 19:04 |
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| dprince | fungi: yep, that is the head of master which should work fine | 19:04 |
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| arosen1 | fungi: clarkb I had quick question i was hoping you guys would be able to help me out. I'm setting up CI for the congress project in the source tree we have files that we copy into devstack in order to get devstack to setup congress. I want to make sure that if those files are changed that the CI runs with those changes but I haven't figured out a way to get that to work yet through etc/jenkins_jobs/config any ideas ? | 19:05 |
| arosen1 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/114274/ <-- what i'm doing right now in the yaml file: 17-22 | 19:05 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, yes | 19:07 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: “namespaces” got voted down in the main CI meeting if I well understood in the sense that it was felt as imposing a limit in the possibilities for the main CI evolution. Is there any restriction imposed on third-parties not to use a format like this if they all agree on it? | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-yum: Add a .gitreview file https://review.openstack.org/123221 | 19:08 |
| fungi | dprince: tagged. also ^ | 19:08 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, I wouldnt say that is got voted down because of it limiting possibilities, it was because it partitioned something that infra didn't want partitioned | 19:09 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, let me get the link | 19:09 |
| dprince | fungi: thanks, looks good. | 19:09 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109565/ | 19:10 |
| fungi | arosen1: yeah, i think you're running afoul of devstack-gate's workspace prep. you probably should make modifications in a hook | 19:10 |
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| krtaylor | ociuhandu, you were on it, but asselin was not | 19:11 |
| asselin | hi | 19:11 |
| krtaylor | asselin, see scrollback | 19:11 |
| arosen1 | fungi: is there any where to learn which patch fired the build here so i can fetch the right code? | 19:11 |
| asselin | krtaylor, what time? | 19:11 |
| fungi | arosen1: you should be able to look in the workspace-setup log to see what refs of various projects were checked out | 19:12 |
| asselin | arosen1, fungi, speaking of hooks, can you comment on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122896/ | 19:13 |
| fungi | arosen1: just be aware it's rife with git errors because the only way we have to discover zuul refs per project is to try to fetch them and then move on of they fail | 19:13 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: the statement you refer to is, I think, the comment of jeblair, Aug 1, on that patch | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | fungi, clarkb - can you guys go through publications reviews today? would be great at least to get yolanda's slides from fossetcon (and pycon-uk) up on the site as I've gotten a couple requests for them | 19:13 |
| krtaylor | asselin, ociuhandu and I were discussing the namespace idea see link above to sdague 's original proposal | 19:13 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, yes | 19:13 |
| asselin | krtaylor, around what time? | 19:13 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: and even there, I’d try to hang on the “If, however, we are to have any, then this seems reasonable.” part :) | 19:13 |
| krtaylor | asselin, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109565/ | 19:13 |
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| krtaylor | ociuhandu, hehheh, well I can abandon mine and we can go back to the original proposal and see if we can get it to pass | 19:14 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: I did not take that as an absolute “no” but rather following sdague’s comment that “Can you propose that an different change, because it's not a part of this that I'm changing.” | 19:15 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, but, when we discussed it, the idea to have comments after recheck was a better approach, then jenkins would recheck every time regardless, which is what infra wants | 19:15 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: so no, it has to be a different one :) | 19:15 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, it would take more sales effort :) | 19:16 |
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| ociuhandu | krtaylor: by different one I was thinking about the one you have now | 19:16 |
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| asselin | krtaylor, ociuhandu ok good to read the history | 19:17 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, I see it boiling down to 2 issues 1) jenkins not recheck every time, it takes too long | 19:17 |
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| krtaylor | ociuhandu, 2) individual third-party systems need a way to recheck just their system | 19:17 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, my proposal was to re-use recheck and then thrd-party systems act independently from jenkins | 19:18 |
| krtaylor | without stopping jenkins from retesting if they want to | 19:18 |
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| arosen1 | fungi: If i hook in here that means i need to maintain my own fork of devstack-gate though? | 19:19 |
| asselin | arosen1, no, you can export the hook in your jenkins job | 19:19 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, if that works, help me reword this proposal, else we can abandon and try something else | 19:19 |
| asselin | arosen1, see here for an example hook: https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/etc/jenkins_jobs/config/dsvm-cinder-driver.yaml.sample#L18 | 19:20 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: considering the existing jenkins triggers, it’s actually not “without stopping” but rather “ensuring jenkins is retesting” | 19:20 |
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| asselin | arosen1, exported here: https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/etc/jenkins_jobs/config/dsvm-cinder-driver.yaml.sample#L50 | 19:20 |
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| arosen1 | asselin: right i understand that. that's what i did here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/114274/ too | 19:21 |
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| ociuhandu | krtaylor: the only point here is, in fact, if we stick with “recheck” followed by something third-party specific | 19:21 |
| arosen1 | asselin: my problem is i want to fetch the code that triggered this patch so i can copy the right code into devstack. | 19:21 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: I think that is the only point under discussion, no? | 19:22 |
| fungi | arosen1: there are several hook points defined in devstack-gate where you can substitute your own functions from the calling environment (optionally wrapping the default finctions if you want to preserve some of their existing behavior but augment them). this was added specifically to keep people from needing to fort d-g | 19:22 |
| clarkb | pleia2: sure. gertty is syncing now | 19:22 |
| markmcclain | if I need to setup a feature branch… who is the correct person to coordinate with to ensure CI is properly setup for it | 19:22 |
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| asselin | arosen1, the devstack script get's everything from zuul and upstream. | 19:22 |
| clarkb | markmcclain: any gerrit admin can do it (jeblair, fungi, mordred, SergeyLukjanov, and myself) | 19:22 |
| fungi | arosen1: if there's something you need to be able to override in d-g and it lacks an appropriate hook, the sane way forward would probably be a patch to d-g to add that hook point | 19:22 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, for now, but I am willing to change that | 19:23 |
| asselin | arosen1, take a look at the environment variables exported by zuul in a previously run jenkins job. you can get it there | 19:23 |
| markmcclain | clarkb: cool | 19:23 |
| clarkb | markmcclain: happy to create one if you are ready now. Though usually I think we want to make sure that a feature branch fits the goals of what you are trying to do | 19:23 |
| clarkb | but typically isn't a problem | 19:23 |
| arosen1 | asselin: k i think you might be right. | 19:23 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: if -infra will not have anything against, I’d love to cover both points you have raised in the beginning, at once | 19:23 |
| clarkb | arosen1: and devstack-gate should do all of the fetcing and checking out fo ryou | 19:23 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, I'm willing | 19:23 |
| asselin | arosen1, take a look at this line too: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh#L335 | 19:23 |
| clarkb | arosen1: a new feature was recently added to zuul called the zuul cloner that may do what you want too | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | arosen1: it runs on the zuul job runner side, grabs the env injected to it and can make decisions about what to clone and fetch and checkout | 19:24 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: thanks :) | 19:24 |
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| ociuhandu | krtaylor: proposing either a syntax starting with the CI name or one that uses another word instead of recheck. I’d love to see what the other third-party CI operators think about it as well | 19:25 |
| asselin | ociuhandu, krtaylor I agree. Personally I though check-<name>. | 19:26 |
| ociuhandu | asselin: we currently use for out CI “check <name>” | 19:26 |
| ociuhandu | :) | 19:26 |
| zaro | hashar: this is read to go i think, just need another +2. would you have time? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85106 | 19:27 |
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| arosen1 | asselin: i see so that will log this : Triggered by: https://review.openstack.org/122896 patchset 1 is there a way i can do a git fetch from that easily ? That doesn't tell me the branch/project | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: this is the ci-automation change? | 19:28 |
| arosen1 | for example that review and patch number would translate to: git fetch https://review.openstack.org/openstack-infra/devstack-gate refs/changes/96/122896/1 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD | 19:28 |
| clarkb | (there are two, going to review both, just want to make sure I am understanding what is going on) | 19:28 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: how can I help you on the patch? I’ve suggested some changes in the comments, is that ok or how should I do it? | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install the openstackci-yum module. https://review.openstack.org/95787 | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add yum.openstack.org lightweight Fedora 20 mirror https://review.openstack.org/90875 | 19:29 |
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| fungi | arosen1: look in the workspace setup log | 19:29 |
| asselin | arosen1, take a look at this: https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing/blob/master/puppet/modules/os_ext_testing/templates/jenkins_job_builder/config/macros.yaml.erb#L52 | 19:29 |
| arosen1 | ah thanks asselin that's exactly what i was looking for! | 19:30 |
| asselin | arosen1 :) | 19:30 |
| markmcclain | clarkb: can you create a feature branch called feature/lbaasv2 (which can be based off master)? it will allow our LBaaS folks a space to work | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | fungi: mordred jeblair ^ if there is no opposition I will go ahead and create that branch | 19:30 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, I'll resubmit the patch with a new wording, and we can take it from there | 19:31 |
| mestery | markmcclain clarkb: ++, thanks for helping with this! | 19:31 |
| ociuhandu | krtaylor: thank you | 19:31 |
| krtaylor | ociuhandu, I think we can work with the default behavior | 19:31 |
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| hashar | zaro: sure :) | 19:33 |
| daya_k | krtaylor , can i ask your help now with recheck syntax in my system? | 19:33 |
| fungi | clarkb: sounds fine to me, as long as the neutron devs have been briefed on the challenges and complications which come with merging feature branches, and as long as whoever is expected to do that task (neutron-release group?) is permitted to do so via their acl | 19:33 |
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| hashar | zaro: someone asked me earlier when we (you?) would release a new version of jjb | 19:34 |
| markmcclain | fungi: I've talked to jeblair about the complications | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: just checked, ci-automation is the one she gave at fossetcon, using-your-own was pycon-uk | 19:34 |
| hashar | zaro: I just went to +2 it | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: thanks it lgtm though there seemed to be an extra .png file in the patchset | 19:35 |
| clarkb | not a big deal +2 | 19:35 |
| clarkb | looking at using your own now | 19:35 |
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| pleia2 | great | 19:35 |
| zaro | hashar: thanks. i was planning on doing sometime right after openstack release. so maybe middle of Nov. | 19:36 |
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| hashar | zaro: will pass the word :] Not sure there is any point in following openstack release, we could probably release once per month or so | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: I am wondering what prompted 111366. https:// and git:// should both be fine | 19:40 |
| zaro | hashar: yeah, i forgot openstack is using directly from master so i would agree. i'de like to do a python-jenkins one then follow on with jjb release. so maybe do python-jenkins next week then jjb | 19:40 |
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| patrickeast | Hey everyone, I have a (hopefully) quick question about Zuul configuration. What is the best method to filter events based on a branch? | 19:41 |
| patrickeast | I am configuring a 3rd party CI and only want it to test/report for master as our Cinder driver isn’t in Icehouse so there isn’t any reason for us to test it. The current configuration has it set for all jobs (http://paste.openstack.org/show/114279/) which only runs the tests for reviews on master, but it is still posting on stable/icehouse reviews as “success” without actually doing any tests… I tried one like this | 19:41 |
| patrickeast | http://paste.openstack.org/show/114281/ using the branch specifier on the gerrit trigger, but it caused zuul to ignore the project (I didn’t see any errors in the log files though). Any suggestions? | 19:41 |
| daya_k | fungi : if u have a min, to your comment on how to set up recheck, i have this in layout - http://paste.openstack.org/show/114278/ | 19:43 |
| hashar | zaro: sounds good to me. I think most folks run jjb from master, but I know a few that uses pypi | 19:43 |
| clarkb | patrickeast: under http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/zuul.html#pipelines the gerrit trigger has a branch filter regex | 19:43 |
| daya_k | fungi : i see the zuul trigger coming in, if i post a review with this comment on gerrit, but it doesnt fire my check pipeline | 19:43 |
| clarkb | patrickeast: you can either set that to be master if you only ever care about master or use a negative lookahed to exclude havana and icehouse | 19:44 |
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| fungi | patrickeast: i think the problem is the - you added in front of it | 19:44 |
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| patrickeast | clarkb: ok, cool so it is the gerrit trigger i want | 19:45 |
| j^2 | Hey guys, i’m an op/runner of #openstack-chef. I was wondering if i could get access to bring chanserv in and the ablity to autoop administer the channel. It seems i cant even see flags. If this is the wrong place to ask, can ya’ll point me in the correct one? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | gah I went and got docs before reading the paste. I think fungi is correct | 19:45 |
| annegent_ | I always say, docs before paste | 19:45 |
| annegent_ | :) | 19:45 |
| annegent_ | is that like pearls before swine? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | annegent_: :) | 19:45 |
| patrickeast | fungi: is it not supposed to have one? I guess I misread the documentation… I’ll try without. Thanks! | 19:46 |
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| fungi | daya_k: your comment_filter is based on the behavior of an old gerrit version... have a look at how we format them upstream in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#n19 | 19:46 |
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| fungi | daya_k: between gerrit 2.4 and 2.8 it started including text about the patchset number and votes as part of the comment text in the event | 19:47 |
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| fungi | j^2: have you looked to see what access is set for the channel? | 19:48 |
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| fungi | j^2: /msg chanserv access #openstack-chef list | 19:49 |
| j^2 | /msg chanserv access #openstack-chef list | 19:49 |
| j^2 | opps | 19:49 |
| j^2 | let me try :) | 19:49 |
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| j^2 | fungi: oh wow, thanks! That’s exactly what i needed | 19:50 |
| fungi | j^2: anyway, it seems carlp is the original founder, though our infra team access has been correctly applied via accessbot and as such we can make adjustments if needed | 19:50 |
| daya_k | fungi : i see, do i need to support this exact syntax also? how about comment_filter, thats not supported anymore? | 19:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/publications: Add link to instructions for using template https://review.openstack.org/98906 | 19:51 |
| j^2 | fungi: yeah it seems almost everyone apart from me and mattray are still active. can you give me the same rights so i can start admining it? It seems i only have +0o | 19:51 |
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| mtreinish | fungi, clarkb, jeblair: if you guys have a sec can you take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:bp/test-accounts,n,z | 19:51 |
| fungi | daya_k: yeah, you probably want to switch to using a pipeline trigger gerrit event comment of (?i)^(Patch Set [0-9]+:)?( [\w\\+-]*)*(\n\n)?\s*recheck(whatever) | 19:51 |
| mtreinish | should be easy reviews, and the first patch is holding up a bp that is almost ready to close | 19:51 |
| clarkb | mordred: "IT CAUSES DOLPHINS TO WEEP" is something we should strive to never do | 19:51 |
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| daya_k | fungi : thanks! will do that. | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch gerrit to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122894 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Doc updates for project-config https://review.openstack.org/122908 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch jenkins to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122893 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch specs to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122904 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch gerritbot to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122905 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch nodepool to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122902 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch accessbot to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122903 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch zuul and zuul-dev to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122533 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move zuul layout into /etc/zuul/layout https://review.openstack.org/122532 | 19:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, markmcclain: ++neutron branch | 19:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: kk I will create that as soon as firefox and gerrit decide to cooperate with each other | 19:53 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb, mordred: can dolphins weep? I'm trying to figure out how tears would work underwater... | 19:54 |
| anteaya | clarkb: firefox 32.0? | 19:54 |
| anteaya | you can sweat underwater | 19:54 |
| anteaya | not sure why you can't cry | 19:54 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yeah | 19:54 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: less slowdown than 31 but still not great | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: dunno it was mordred prose and it just sounds like a terrible thing to happen | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: hmm, good point | 19:55 |
| anteaya | though sweating underwater feels terrible | 19:55 |
| anteaya | a shower is always such a relief | 19:55 |
| anteaya | < played varsity waterpolo | 19:55 |
| * fungi imagines the old "keep america beautiful" ads, but with iron eyes cody replaced by flipper | 19:56 | |
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| anteaya | who is iron eyes cody? | 19:56 |
| clarkb | markmcclain: mestery: feature/lbaasv2 created. you probably want to make your first change an update to the .gitreview file's defaultbranch so that it points to feature/lbaasv2 instead of master | 19:57 |
| clarkb | markmcclain: mestery: haev fun | 19:57 |
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| fungi | anteaya: wikipedia remembers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody | 19:58 |
| mestery | clarkb: Thanks so much! | 19:58 |
| fungi | anteaya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_America_Beautiful | 19:58 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair: interested in what you think about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122960/2 (using our first dib image with nodepool) | 20:00 |
| anteaya | fungi: he has as much first nations blood as grey wolf | 20:01 |
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| clarkb | there are probably a few things we awnt to add to nodepool before doing this in rax. we need to set the appropriate image metadata so that rax boots the image pvhvm | 20:01 |
| clarkb | and disabled the nova agent thing. But this shouldn't be necessary for hpcloud | 20:01 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: is that the best node type to start with? | 20:03 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i wonder if we shouldn't actually just create a new node type | 20:03 |
| jeblair | so we can boot a few of them and poke around | 20:03 |
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| fungi | anteaya: yep, it's precisely the sort of insulting portrayal you should expect from a nonprofit tax shelter backed by cigarette, beer and soda conglomerate mega-corporations | 20:03 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we could try that too. We have to go with a variant of the devstack-* images to start though because those dib clean right now | 20:03 |
| anteaya | as least they are reliable in their falsness | 20:03 |
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| anteaya | wouldn't want any honesty to get in there | 20:04 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, i mostly am worried about losing half our devstack-trusty test capacity | 20:04 |
| jeblair | if something goes wrong | 20:04 |
| clarkb | jeblair: well in this case it is only 1/10th or so bceause its only one hpcloud region, but even that may be painful if this goes sideways | 20:04 |
| anteaya | wikipedia has nothing on grey wolf, he is a british man who lived in Canada and portrayed himself as first nations | 20:04 |
| anteaya | I think people wrote books about him | 20:04 |
| clarkb | or are we still unbalanced? | 20:04 |
| fungi | clarkb: jeblair: yeah i too would want to be able to test-drive them with maybe an experimental job first, just to exercise all the machinery, make sure image updates continue to happen at a reliable cadence, et cetera | 20:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair: what do you think of creating a devstack-trusty-dib image, then assigning an experimental job or two to that node? | 20:05 |
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| fungi | clarkb: seems fine | 20:05 |
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| jeblair | ++ | 20:05 |
| clarkb | ok I will respin and do that then | 20:06 |
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| fungi | this point in the release cycle would be especially not-great for 10% of our devstack jobs to suddenly start vomiting on everyone's changes | 20:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: do you want me to try to hack on the changes for setting glance image metadata? | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added recursive option https://review.openstack.org/85106 | 20:08 |
| clarkb | mordred: if you want that would be super helpful | 20:08 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think you know how to wrangle the client libs better than anyone at this point | 20:08 |
| mordred | well, I'd also be tempted to port nodepool to shade - but I may wait just a smidge before doing that | 20:09 |
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| mordred | but yeah - I do seem to have become the client libs guy | 20:09 |
| mordred | :( | 20:09 |
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| fungi | mordred: did you just say rewrite nodepool in go? | 20:09 |
| mordred | fungi: no. no I did not :) | 20:09 |
| fungi | oh, good | 20:10 |
| mordred | fungi: I was going to rewrite ansible in go, and then rewrite nodeool in ansible-go | 20:10 |
| mordred | with docker | 20:10 |
| fungi | dock-dock-gosible | 20:10 |
| mordred | wow | 20:10 |
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| mordred | please someone make a project called dock-dock-gosible | 20:10 |
| mordred | mikal: ^^ looking at you | 20:11 |
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| fungi | he'll just tell jhesketh to do it for him | 20:11 |
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| mordred | mikal: we could split out the kvm driver from nova and call it that | 20:11 |
| fungi | might as well cut out the middle-mikal | 20:11 |
| mordred | mikal: so that you culd say "I run nova with dock-dock-gosible" | 20:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add non-isolated jobs to experimental pipeline https://review.openstack.org/120861 | 20:11 |
| mordred | it would immediately get rid of any vendor problems we have - because no one would ever be able to bring u pthat name in a customer conversation | 20:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Remove havana compat jobs from tempest experimental https://review.openstack.org/120876 | 20:12 |
| jeblair | s/ problem// | 20:13 |
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| adam_g | mordred, you'd be surprised. *cough*juju*cough* | 20:13 |
| mordred | adam_g: you know, I _almost_ typed a juju joke follow up :) | 20:14 |
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| fungi | no need | 20:14 |
| fungi | it makes its own gravy | 20:15 |
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| adam_g | jeblair, clarkb any chance of another look at the last 2 patches @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ironic_infra,n,z ? both of your +2's have fallen off multiple times due to rebases over the last weeks | 20:22 |
| jeblair | mordred: http://www.bpkg.io/ | 20:23 |
| adam_g | or anyone else ^ we really need the ironic sideways grenade stuff in place for RCs | 20:23 |
| * jeblair is curious whether mordred's head will explode | 20:23 | |
| mordred | jeblair: LOVE IT | 20:24 |
| fungi | my head mostly only exploded because i just learned bash has packages | 20:25 |
| fungi | *foomph* | 20:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add test trusty dib image to hpcloud providers https://review.openstack.org/122960 | 20:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair ^ that should address your comments | 20:32 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: how about we spin up the nodes first | 20:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: then add a job | 20:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: because without nodes, we will never be able to run devstack-gate experimental jobs | 20:34 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I can do that too. split the current change into two changes | 20:35 |
| jeblair | ya | 20:35 |
| zaro | hashar: could you mind reviewing this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116347 | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Adds support for Ironic parallel Tempest testing https://review.openstack.org/118700 | 20:36 |
| anteaya | my cat is racking up confirmed kills, evidence of 5 right now on the doormat | 20:36 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch gerrit to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122894 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Doc updates for project-config https://review.openstack.org/122908 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch specs to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122904 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch gerritbot to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122905 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch nodepool to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122902 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch accessbot to project-config https://review.openstack.org/122903 | 20:38 |
| hashar | zaro: the doc link does not work :/ | 20:38 |
| hashar | zaro: I mean on doc drafts | 20:39 |
| * anteaya starts reviewing again from the top | 20:39 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add devstack-trusty-dib image. https://review.openstack.org/122960 | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add new experimental jobs to test dib based nodes https://review.openstack.org/123245 | 20:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: fungi ^ that should do it | 20:41 |
| clarkb | `git reset HEAD~1` ftw | 20:41 |
| hashar | zaro: +2ed that python-jenkins version doc :] I am off to bed now | 20:41 |
| jeblair | clarkb: lgtm, thanks! | 20:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: thank you | 20:43 |
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| fungi | clarkb: we suspect these only work on hpcloud, not rax, at the moment? | 20:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: correct. because in rax we need to set image metadata that says we are not running nova agent. and it will be best if we also tell rax that we want these to be pvhvm nodes | 20:45 |
| fungi | oh, that. right | 20:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: in theory rax may work but it will not work as well as we want it too | 20:45 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ you are probably interested in this stack too | 20:47 |
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| fungi | clarkb: lgtm. obviously will be "not registered" until we have the images working (hopefully in a couple hours) | 20:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: that is why jeblair wanted me to split into two changes | 20:48 |
| fungi | jeblair: did you +1 123245 intentionally or typo? | 20:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think it was intentional so that we don't merge that change until after we have a node booted with the dib image | 20:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: intentional since it's not ready | 20:49 |
| fungi | well, since it's experimental i'm not sure what risk it poses to merge async, but it's fine to stagger too | 20:49 |
| jeblair | what clarkb said | 20:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: because adding to experimental without nodes means no experimental runs can complete | 20:49 |
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| jeblair | it's more dangerous than normal experimental adds because it could be weeks until the job can even start running. | 20:49 |
| jeblair | hopefully it's only hours :) | 20:49 |
| fungi | oh? i thought those just insta-failed with "not registered" instead since they were set to use a nonexistent node type | 20:50 |
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| jeblair | fungi: you're right | 20:50 |
| jeblair | fungi: i guess the danger is if we get one registered and then have trouble. | 20:50 |
| fungi | true. as i said, i'm fine staggering it. this does i guess let us log into one and poke around before we inflict it on experimental d-g runs | 20:51 |
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| jeblair | i am perhaps being over cautious; if we want to go ahead and merge that, i'd be okay with that. but if it's okay, i'd prefer to do one step at a time. | 20:51 |
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| clarkb | one step at a time is fine with me | 20:53 |
| harlowja_ | lifeless https://pypi.python.org/pypi/zake is as close to a verified fake as i think we have (so its somewhere in openstack, haha) | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Handle @s in log file names by renaming them https://review.openstack.org/122885 | 20:54 |
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| IvanKliuk | Hello! Is it possible to delete my Gerrit account on review.openstack.org? | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-yum: Add a .gitreview file https://review.openstack.org/123221 | 21:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-yum: Add a Rakefile file https://review.openstack.org/123249 | 21:01 |
| clarkb | IvanKliuk: no not really. bceause any associated changes and reviews would then be incomplete | 21:02 |
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| IvanKliuk | I don't have any activity on the review. | 21:04 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: hah well | 21:04 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: is there something that runs against it and real zk and compares the results? | 21:04 |
| clarkb | IvanKliuk: are yo uwanting to delete it because of the username? | 21:04 |
| harlowja_ | lifeless i need to work with the kazoo guys on that | 21:04 |
| IvanKliuk | yes | 21:04 |
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| lifeless | harlowja_: then its a fake, but not verified :) | 21:04 |
| clarkb | IvanKliuk: does the username matter that much? only you will ever see it (usually unless people really want to query gerrit for it) | 21:04 |
| lifeless | I wrote a whitepaper on this about 9 years back :) | 21:05 |
| fungi | and for that matter, you'll really only see it if you're looking at the url in your git remote strings | 21:05 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: also I came up with a terrible analogy for testing with mocks | 21:05 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: trying to decide if I dare put it to paper | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | testing with mocks is like testing puppet with rspec | 21:06 |
| clarkb | you are really only keeping track of interfaces by writing your interface twice | 21:06 |
| IvanKliuk | clarkb: It does. When you have to work with dozens accounts it becomes a pain to track all the different usernames. | 21:07 |
| clarkb | IvanKliuk: you don't need to track it though. you can set it in your .gitconfig file and forget about it | 21:07 |
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| harlowja_ | lifeless i know, working on getting it more verified :-P | 21:09 |
| harlowja_ | but its nearly there, haha | 21:09 |
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| IvanKliuk | clarkb: Yes, I know about it. | 21:10 |
| clarkb | IvanKliuk: the trouble here is that gerrit's user management is pretty simple. And making changes of this sort involves making direct db changes which often have unintended consequences so we prefer to just leave it as is | 21:11 |
| clarkb | especially since I don't think these are major problems. | 21:12 |
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| IvanKliuk | clarkb: I understand. That's why I asked about just dropping the account. | 21:13 |
| fungi | IvanKliuk: "deleting" a gerrit account also requires direct database manipulation. it is not a feature of gerrit | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add new experimental jobs to test dib based nodes https://review.openstack.org/123245 | 21:17 |
| IvanKliuk | fungi: clarkb: I got you, gentlemen. .gitconfig is the way out. Thanks. | 21:18 |
| clarkb | that should actually pass testing now >_> forgot to use :'s in my yaml | 21:18 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: re: 111366, I've found https:// for git clone to be confusing in docs because people wonder why they can't go to it in a browser, prefer git:// for docs when you're doing cloning | 21:19 |
| clarkb | pleia2: gotcha | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | I wonder if we can have a little wsgi thing on that sserver that redirects you if you don't do what git does when it talks initially | 21:20 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we might be able to switch at the request header level | 21:21 |
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| jeblair | (so could just be some mod_rewrite config) | 21:21 |
| clarkb | I don't know enough about the two git http protocols to weigh in with any authority but it should be reasonably easy to figure it out | 21:22 |
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| stevebaker | clarkb, jeblair, fungi: hey, this change has had 2x+2s for 18 days, any chance of an approve? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116533/ | 21:24 |
| jeblair | stevebaker: done | 21:26 |
| stevebaker | jeblair: thanks | 21:26 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: my analogy involved sex | 21:29 |
| clarkb | lifeless: wow | 21:29 |
| clarkb | I am sure it is much more interesting than mine | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | waiting for pep8 to run on my dib change is like watching paint dry | 21:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: check-heat-dsvm-functional pre/post hooks https://review.openstack.org/116533 | 21:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove TEMPEST_REGEX, run all Ironic jobs in parallel (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/123253 | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/hacking: Update H501 to check for self.__dict__ https://review.openstack.org/119460 | 21:52 |
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| markmcclain | clarkb: thanks | 22:02 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:02 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 22:02 |
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| anteaya | there was some chat earlier about getting mikal to write something and it was acknowledged that should we want that that it would just end up on your plate | 22:03 |
| anteaya | fortunately it was something that was only intended to be vapourware so I think you are safe, for now | 22:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add devstack-trusty-dib image. https://review.openstack.org/122960 | 22:05 |
| clarkb | here we go | 22:05 |
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| pleia2 | :D | 22:06 |
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| zaro | jeblair: licensing issue that seems to require your review, would you be able to take a look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89604/ | 22:10 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: as SergeyLukjanov is away, would be be willing to do the third party ci account requests tomorrow? | 22:13 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: ya I can probably squeeze them in | 22:13 |
| anteaya | great thanks | 22:14 |
| anteaya | I will get them ready for you | 22:14 |
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| clarkb | cool sounds good | 22:14 |
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| anteaya | thanks | 22:18 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: ping | 22:18 |
| lifeless | dstufft: any thoungs on that setuptools ptch I linked? | 22:19 |
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| clarkb | TypeError: execve() arg 3 contains a non-string value <- getting that from _buildImage looking into it now | 22:22 |
| jeblair | zaro: lgtm, thx | 22:23 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: i'll be back in 5 min if you want help | 22:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ok | 22:26 |
| lifeless | mordred: have I made you cry recently? | 22:27 |
| clarkb | execve says arg 3 is the envp pointer | 22:28 |
| clarkb | so I think it is realted to the env var we are passing subprocess | 22:28 |
| lifeless | mordred: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1372250 | 22:28 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1372250 in oslo.db "cannot use top level test discovery" [High,Triaged] | 22:28 |
| clarkb | I double checked that command arg was shlex'd properly and it appears to be fine | 22:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: back | 22:29 |
| clarkb | ohhh internets say that env values need to be byte strings | 22:29 |
| clarkb | yaml gives us u'' by default? | 22:30 |
| lifeless | yaml gives you strings | 22:30 |
| lifeless | I don't think yaml has a bytestring type | 22:31 |
| lifeless | you need to encode them in your locale's local encoding (or say fuckit and use utf8) | 22:31 |
| clarkb | ya so that is probably the underlying issue. https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/nodepool/tree/nodepool/nodepool.py#n775 is the code that is barfing | 22:31 |
| clarkb | and i think it is just the entries on lines 781 to 788 that will be trouble | 22:32 |
| clarkb | I can encode them to utf8 | 22:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable Neutron for ironic-parallel https://review.openstack.org/123265 | 22:33 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: i'm unconvinced that's the problem | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: at least, popen seems to work with a u'' as a value in a quick test for me | 22:37 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: in the env dict argument? | 22:38 |
| jeblair | ya | 22:38 |
| clarkb | hrm | 22:38 |
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| * clarkb digs in subprocess source | 22:39 | |
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| jeblair | i'm going to test this code, for real. | 22:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ok | 22:40 |
| clarkb | also this code is scary python | 22:40 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: what code is scary? | 22:40 |
| clarkb | subprocess | 22:40 |
| jeblair | i meant nodepool | 22:40 |
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| jeblair | like, i'm going to run it against hpcloud for real with something very like our config. | 22:41 |
| jeblair | this is not going to happen quickly because i'm going to do it on an hpcloud test node which is slow :( | 22:42 |
| clarkb | jeblair: kk | 22:42 |
| jeblair | while i'm waiting; maybe we should move nodepool to that pure-python mysql client lib :) | 22:42 |
| reed | is Ryan_Lane still our only mediawiki resident expert? | 22:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | yep | 22:44 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ok, I was able to confirm that setting env like that seems to be fine with subprocess | 22:45 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: and subprocess throws UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xff' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) when you do something that is properly in the unicode space | 22:47 |
| clarkb | jeblair: so that looks like subprocess is encoding to ascii for us | 22:47 |
| clarkb | and we would get a different error if this was actually the issue | 22:47 |
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| jeblair | i suspect one of those values is None or an object or something | 22:49 |
| annegentle | mordred: pleia2: jeblair: anteaya: clarkb: Any of you HPers interested in finding sponsorship for Outreach Program for Women intern(s)? It's $6250 for one intern. https://wiki.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen/Admin/InfoForOrgs | 22:49 |
| annegentle | The foundation is sponsoring one for certain. | 22:49 |
| pleia2 | MarkAtwood: ^^ is that something OSPO would be interested in? | 22:50 |
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| reed | Ryan_Lane, do you have pointers on the best practices to implement a taxonomy on mediawiki? | 22:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I can reproduce using a None value | 22:51 |
| reed | Ryan_Lane, we've done a basic analysis and have a "tree" which we can map to categories, right? | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | you add articles to categories | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | then you add categories to categories | 22:51 |
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| reed | Ryan_Lane, the next step I was thinking would be to start mapping the categories in our taxonomy tree and add them to the existing articles | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | then you make a 'base' category | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | which has all the categories | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | then your category tree uses base | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | give it a go with a small number of articles and categories to see how it works | 22:52 |
| reed | right, and that 'base' will visualize everything from special:CategoryTree | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah | 22:52 |
| jeblair | annegentle: ++ i think pleia2 is on the right track | 22:52 |
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| reed | Ryan_Lane, ok, thanks, will keep you posted | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | cool | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | let me know | 22:53 |
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| pleia2 | annegentle, jeblair - I'll send off an email to the open source group and see what we can come up with | 22:53 |
| stevemar | thanks for the reviww anteaya ! | 22:55 |
| stevemar | review* | 22:55 |
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| stevemar | one day i will learn how to spell | 22:55 |
| anteaya | annegentle: I have hp people telling me they have sponsored | 22:55 |
| pleia2 | actually yeah, going to the website hp seems to be a promoter sponsor (3 interns) | 22:56 |
| anteaya | stevemar: spelling is overrated | 22:56 |
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| anteaya | annegentle: hp thinks it has sponsored, is there a mis-communication? | 22:56 |
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| dstufft | lifeless: didn't get a chance to really look at it yet | 22:58 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: so we have someone blocked by that basically, because of another bug that interacts poorly | 22:58 |
| pleia2 | my condo is about a billion degrees (woo, september in san francisco), going to find a cooler spot, bbs | 22:58 |
| lifeless | dstufft: http://bugs.python.org/issue22457 | 22:59 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: so I'm pushing on this to get /an/ answer | 22:59 |
| lifeless | dstufft: doesn't have to be a pip thing | 22:59 |
| dstufft | if it's a setuptools bug jaraco is the best person to talk to about that | 22:59 |
| lifeless | dstufft: e.g. I'm pondering if pbr should create a .pth file | 22:59 |
| dstufft | he's the setuptools dev | 22:59 |
| lifeless | that has the refresh_namespaces thing | 23:00 |
| lifeless | dstufft: what channels should I stalk him in? | 23:00 |
| dstufft | he's a regular in #pypa-dev | 23:00 |
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| dstufft | he doesn't have a bouncer or anything so when he leaves he logs out | 23:00 |
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| annegentle | anteaya: ah great -- for OpenStack specifically or overall? Can you get that info to Stefano (reed) | 23:06 |
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| * reed is going nuts with mediawiki, brain fried after 1h and accomplishing nothing yet | 23:07 | |
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| devananda | anteaya: is ATC status, w.r.t. voting on TC elections, determined by contributions to an existing openstack/* program? or to an *integrated* project? | 23:08 |
| fungi | reed: you need a taxonomist | 23:08 |
| reed | fungi, I need a flamethrower | 23:08 |
| fungi | devananda: it's determined by the state of programs.yaml in the governance repo at the time the election tag is pushed to it | 23:08 |
| fungi | reed: yeah, flamethrowers are far more effective than herbicides | 23:09 |
| reed | is this parsable for others or am I really dumb? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories#Managing_the_category_hierarchy | 23:09 |
| devananda | fungi: but is it based on the list of official programs, or based on the incubated/integrated status thereof? | 23:09 |
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| devananda | fungi: for example, docs and QA programs have no integrated projects, yet AIUI contributors there have a vote in the TC | 23:10 |
| fungi | devananda: the script which does the dirty work is https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/tools/atc and it currently just gloms on any project within a repo (see the get_projects() function therein) | 23:10 |
| devananda | fungi: perfect - thank you :) | 23:11 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I think I have found the bug | 23:11 |
| annegentle | devananda: docs and qa are considered integrated | 23:11 |
| clarkb | patch incoming shortly | 23:11 |
| annegentle | devananda: for example we don't have an official translation program | 23:11 |
| annegentle | but docs qa and infra are official | 23:11 |
| clarkb | er nevermind that isn't right | 23:11 |
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| fungi | er, gloms on any project with a repo in an official program | 23:12 |
| devananda | so my question also pertains to new programs, eg. manila/designate/barbican | 23:12 |
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| fungi | devananda: their contributors get votes in the tc election as the process stands right now. does that need to change? (i hope not at this stage) | 23:12 |
| devananda | fungi: not afaik -- just checking what the current process was | 23:13 |
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| fungi | devananda: rule of thumb (currently encoded by process) is that contributors to any project listed in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml within the timeframe considered for voting status get added to the rolls | 23:14 |
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| reed | Ryan_Lane, category Icehouse, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:Icehouse would like it to be a son of parent category Releases... https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:Releases has categorytree but shows up empty | 23:16 |
| annegentle | fungi: so is that before or after Oct 16th, juno release date? | 23:17 |
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| devananda | fungi: that was my impression. thank you :) | 23:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | reed: you made a link to the category, rather than adding it | 23:18 |
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| fungi | annegentle: the latest state of the master branch in the governance repo is tagged at the start of the election, and the programs.yaml file from that time is what gets used to generate rolls for the election | 23:19 |
| fungi | annegentle: that way we have a point in time for that file we can point to | 23:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | reed: [[Category:Blah]] <-- add this to a category. [[:Category:Blah]] <-- show a link to category Blah | 23:19 |
| reed | Ryan_Lane, ah! ok... | 23:19 |
| * reed sighs | 23:19 | |
| annegentle | fungi: thanks | 23:19 |
| reed | Ryan_Lane, thanks, things should be faster now :) | 23:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | yw | 23:20 |
| fungi | reed: yeah, the implicitness of linking and categorization in mediawiki seems to be designed to confuse anyone who isn't already using it | 23:20 |
| mikal | Is it helpful if I suggest droppng python 3 support on that mailing list thread? | 23:21 |
| fungi | mikal: we should just drop python support, once you make jhesketh rewrite openstack in go | 23:21 |
| reed | fungi, lots of other small things are carefully hidden :) | 23:21 |
| reed | but luckily we have a resident expert :) | 23:22 |
| reed | rewrite everything! | 23:22 |
| reed | in R | 23:22 |
| fungi | heh | 23:22 |
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| reed | what's the new language championed by Mozilla Foundation? | 23:22 |
| fungi | common lisp has my vote | 23:23 |
| reed | rust | 23:23 |
| * fungi has a secret plan to take over the world by making all devs wear our their () keys | 23:23 | |
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| lifeless | rust is nice | 23:23 |
| lifeless | If we do start allowing other languages though, haskell first please ;) | 23:24 |
| * mikal is actually a little bit serious | 23:24 | |
| mikal | I hate all this six code | 23:24 |
| mikal | We can't port until someone solves eventlet | 23:24 |
| clarkb | mikal: why not no python2.7 instead? | 23:24 |
| clarkb | mikal: then you can go straight to asyncio | 23:24 |
| mikal | So I'd like to see people stop doing easy things like xrange() changes | 23:24 |
| lifeless | mikal: or stop usin eventlet | 23:24 |
| mikal | And solve the actual hard problem | 23:24 |
| mikal | lifeless: sure, if that's the solution | 23:24 |
| lifeless | mikal: well its a solution | 23:24 |
| mikal | lifeless: although it is my understanding there's no asyncio in 2.7? | 23:25 |
| lifeless | mikal: enovance backported it | 23:25 |
| mikal | lifeless: last I heard someone was porting eventlet to 3 to unblock us | 23:25 |
| mikal | But my point remains | 23:25 |
| mikal | Tweaking trivial things to get your commit count up isn't helping get us to python 3 | 23:25 |
| mikal | So stop it | 23:25 |
| mikal | (none of you, but the people who are) | 23:25 |
| mikal | And we should "drop" py3 until we have the async problem solved | 23:26 |
| lifeless | mikal: also there is https://pypi.python.org/pypi/future | 23:26 |
| mikal | Also, get off my lawn | 23:26 |
| lifeless | mikal: do you happen to have a ref to the eventlet port? | 23:29 |
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| reed | wooot ! https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:Home#Category_Tree | 23:29 |
| reed | Ryan_Lane, ^^^ thank you | 23:29 |
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| lifeless | THERE IS HOPE FOR THE UNIVERSE! http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | deja vu | 23:31 |
| mikal | lifeless: my reference is talking to Richard Jones in meat space | 23:32 |
| mikal | lifeless: so, hard to link to | 23:32 |
| lifeless | mikal: ack | 23:32 |
| mikal | Richard is also on vacation this week, so hard to ask for pointers | 23:32 |
| lifeless | ackity ack ack | 23:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | reed: cool :) | 23:32 |
| fungi | lifeless: yeah, uselessd was all the talk this weekend. i love that the project is defined primarily not by what it is, but what it is not | 23:34 |
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| lifeless | fungi: immune system respons | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | haha | 23:34 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I know what the problem is | 23:35 |
| clarkb | jeblair: patch incoming | 23:35 |
| fungi | lifeless: particularly amusing, the ever so important faq entry it has on "Are my boot times safe?" | 23:35 |
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| lifeless | fungi: because OMG | 23:36 |
| * fungi pictures otaku with smelly feet muttering to themselves in dark basements rebooting their desktops over and over, stopwatch in hand | 23:36 | |
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| clarkb | lifeless: how do I tell nodepool where to write a file? its the -o options? | 23:43 |
| clarkb | lifeless: wow sorry | 23:43 |
| clarkb | lifeless: how do I tell dib where to write the image file? using the -o option | 23:43 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: yes | 23:44 |
| lifeless | clarkb: -o /path/to/image_basename | 23:44 |
| lifeless | IIRC | 23:44 |
| clarkb | ty | 23:45 |
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| mikal | Is there a Ubuntu cloud archive for 14.04? | 23:47 |
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| clarkb | mikal: not sure, I wouldn't expect it to exist until after we release juno though | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | mikal: I'm pretty sure the cloud archive starts once juno comes out since icehouse shipped with 14.04 | 23:49 |
| mikal | Ahhh, ok | 23:49 |
| mikal | I'm trying to decide how reasonable it is to require them to bump the version of libguestfs on 14.04 for Kilo | 23:49 |
| mikal | It sounds like a thing they're still willing to do though | 23:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Kolla project - Dockerizing OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/122972 | 23:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Handle config updates in dib builder thread https://review.openstack.org/123283 | 23:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Move the ImageUpdater base class for clarity. https://review.openstack.org/123284 | 23:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ^ that should do it | 23:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Updates a directory to be included in project-config https://review.openstack.org/122572 | 23:58 |
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| reed | Ryan_Lane, do you know anyone who we could contract to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1254911 ? | 23:58 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1254911 in openstack-ci "UniversalLanguageSelector breaks wiki skin" [Medium,Triaged] | 23:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | hm. the translatewiki folks would likely be your best bet | 23:59 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Added documentation for StoryBoard https://review.openstack.org/108460 | 23:59 |
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| Ryan_Lane | join #wikimedia-i18n and ask in there | 23:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | they're the ones that maintain it | 23:59 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add ldbragst as a core reviewer for Keystone https://review.openstack.org/122974 | 23:59 |
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