| clarkb | so hopefully with a rebase things will be happy | 00:00 |
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| mordred | woot | 00:00 |
| clarkb | or maybe justexplode more veebosely | 00:05 |
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| anteaya | mordred: did you ever look at my vagrant blog post? | 00:18 |
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| anteaya | http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/ | 00:20 |
| mordred | anteaya: I will now look at that | 00:23 |
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| mordred | anteaya: perhaps you will provide me guidance towards getting vagrant to do something, which I have literally never done | 00:23 |
| anteaya | sure | 00:23 |
| anteaya | the blog post is old | 00:24 |
| anteaya | but it should be straightforward | 00:24 |
| anteaya | and I can answer questions | 00:24 |
| anteaya | I write it for people like me | 00:24 |
| anteaya | slooooooow | 00:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: have you seen what dib ci does? | 00:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: I am now drinking to forget | 00:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: they have reimplemented setup_worspace and zuul_cloner poorly | 00:25 |
| clarkb | such that you cannot understand how it works and it doens't work | 00:25 |
| jroll | oh lord | 00:25 |
| jroll | I have to see this | 00:25 |
| clarkb | I added echos to my code | 00:25 |
| clarkb | they do not run | 00:25 |
| clarkb | if this used our tools that we have written for this specific purpose it would just work | 00:26 |
| clarkb | because it turns out we test it 25k times per day | 00:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. I've been yelling at them about that for two years | 00:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: but I mostly try to ignore it | 00:26 |
| anteaya | mordred: I'll be rotating responses on the tc election wiki | 00:27 |
| anteaya | so I will be around | 00:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: if you're sitting next to greghaynes ... please tell him that I'm pretty sure I told people so ... | 00:27 |
| mordred | anteaya: well, turns out that vagrant box add doesn't do things anymore | 00:27 |
| mordred | BUT | 00:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: he says he discovered this a couple days ago and is trying to fix it | 00:27 |
| mordred | I think I've found the replacement | 00:27 |
| clarkb | but this is insane | 00:27 |
| clarkb | its a solved problem | 00:27 |
| clarkb | with understandable tools | 00:27 |
| clarkb | like we offer it as a service | 00:27 |
| clarkb | now I am just mad | 00:27 |
| mordred | yah | 00:28 |
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| mordred | I think I'd forgotten how upset I was about that | 00:28 |
| clarkb | mordred I think they are just testing master | 00:29 |
| clarkb | then tests pass and you merge broken code | 00:29 |
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| mordred | wait. what? | 00:33 |
| mordred | they're bypassing EVERYTHING??? | 00:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: or at least for dib | 00:33 |
| anteaya | mordred: I am not following that vagrant box doesn't do things anymore | 00:34 |
| clarkb | greghaynes thinks they are checking out the right ref but installing from elsewhere | 00:34 |
| clarkb | still trying to debug this | 00:34 |
| anteaya | mordred: what happens if you install an older verision? | 00:34 |
| anteaya | version? | 00:34 |
| mordred | anteaya: "vagrant init hashicorp/trusty64" is the new "vagrant box add precise32 http://files.vagrantup.com/precise32.box ; vagrant init precise32" | 00:34 |
| clarkb | but I am pretty sure its not checking my code in the check pipeline | 00:34 |
| mordred | anteaya: files.vagrantup.com is not a thing anymore | 00:34 |
| anteaya | ah then my blog post is out of date | 00:34 |
| mordred | anteaya: othe rthan that - your blog post is so far proving quite helpful | 00:35 |
| mordred | anteaya: as it does not assume I already know how to use vagrant | 00:35 |
| mordred | so thank you | 00:35 |
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| clarkb | mordred: it creates a new ci-branch for every project | 00:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: and who knows what that does | 00:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: 0_o | 00:36 |
| anteaya | mordred: welcome | 00:36 |
| anteaya | mordred: since I never know anything about anything | 00:36 |
| anteaya | I do try to assume my readers are the same | 00:37 |
| mordred | anteaya: yup. still doesn't work | 00:38 |
| mordred | I did this - which is what the website says: | 00:38 |
| mordred | vagrant init hasicorp/precise32 && vagrant up | 00:39 |
| mordred | I get "* The box 'hashicorp/precise32' could not be found. | 00:39 |
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| anteaya | mordred: link to what website you are reading? | 00:40 |
| mordred | http://www.vagrantup.com/ | 00:40 |
| mordred | under "see how easy it is" | 00:40 |
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| mordred | yup. I actually copied and pasted from the website and it does not work | 00:40 |
| anteaya | have you downloaded the image precise32 onto your computer? | 00:41 |
| anteaya | mordred: http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/getting-started/boxes.html | 00:42 |
| anteaya | vagrant box add hashicorp/precise32 | 00:42 |
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| mordred | wow. so, basically their thing is just a lie? | 00:42 |
| anteaya | yes | 00:42 |
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| mordred | RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE | 00:42 |
| anteaya | you bought the marketing | 00:42 |
| mordred | anteaya: thank you | 00:42 |
| anteaya | np | 00:43 |
| mordred | well, I tried to copy and paste the "simple" example | 00:43 |
| anteaya | yes | 00:43 |
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| anteaya | and they lied to you | 00:43 |
| anteaya | and it didn't work | 00:43 |
| mordred | sigh | 00:43 |
| * anteaya pats mordred consolely | 00:43 | |
| anteaya | consoleingly | 00:43 |
| mordred | this is, btw, what has happened every single time I've tried to touch anything produced by the people at hashicorp | 00:43 |
| mordred | which, btw, clarkb, is why I use every ounce of whatever veto power I have to avoid packer | 00:43 |
| anteaya | after you download the box | 00:44 |
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| anteaya | you have to tell your vagrant instance where it is | 00:44 |
| anteaya | Vagrant.configure("2") do |config| | 00:44 |
| anteaya | config.vm.box = "hashicorp/precise32" | 00:44 |
| anteaya | end | 00:44 |
| clarkb | mordred: I mean I have little interest in packer myself | 00:45 |
| clarkb | mordred: but I think the workflow nodepool and packer represent is saner for our purposes | 00:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure. I'm just saying | 00:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: I will veto any patch that contains packer | 00:45 |
| clarkb | dib solves a different slightly orthogonal problem which is make homogenous images for cloud deployers | 00:45 |
| mordred | well, I REALLY like dib as an expression of _what_ I want | 00:46 |
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| mordred | I think the _how_ it gets there is off | 00:46 |
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| clarkb | we already know how to build a centos image on centos | 00:47 |
| clarkb | and so on | 00:47 |
| clarkb | to me dib is just a complication | 00:47 |
| clarkb | we are not consistent across providers today but nothing prevents that | 00:47 |
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| mordred | clarkb: actually, wouldn't mind making our own base images that we upload to our providers | 00:48 |
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| mordred | by hand, even, since we need to do it very infrequently | 00:48 |
| mordred | but I do wish it were easier for our devs to recreate d-g envs | 00:49 |
| mordred | because it's not | 00:49 |
| mordred | currently | 00:49 |
| mordred | anteaya: so, it seems that the version of vagrant on trusty is too old | 00:51 |
| mordred | so the docs on vagrant up don't wrk | 00:51 |
| mordred | but neither do the docs on your blog | 00:51 |
| mordred | anteaya: I appreciate your help | 00:52 |
| mordred | anteaya: you have gotten me further than anyone else has ever gotten me | 00:52 |
| mordred | anteaya: but completing this task is not important enough to me to continue to learn more about this tool | 00:53 |
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| anteaya | mordred: okay | 00:58 |
| anteaya | and you're welcome | 00:59 |
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| kevinbenton | is there a tempest core around that can take a look at a patch that has been sitting around for quite a while? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118293/ | 01:20 |
| kevinbenton | already has one +2 | 01:20 |
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| anteaya | kevinbenton: tempest core would most likely be in -qa | 01:28 |
| kevinbenton | anteaya: oh, sorry. duh | 01:28 |
| anteaya | and sdad is on parental leave and mtreinish is taking monday off | 01:28 |
| anteaya | np | 01:28 |
| kevinbenton | anteaya: i’ll just check back monday | 01:29 |
| anteaya | probably have better luck then yeah | 01:29 |
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| anteaya | dhellmann: the bookstore in greece rents cats: http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/gallery/2014/oct/10/weird-and-wonderful-bookshops-worldwide-in-pictures | 02:02 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: they might have some business suggestions | 02:02 |
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| mordred | anteaya: I'm not allowed to dunk them in water and throw them at people am I? | 02:34 |
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| anteaya | mordred: I can't stop you from anything you do | 02:36 |
| anteaya | but I can intercept them | 02:36 |
| anteaya | and save them | 02:36 |
| anteaya | and reduce your supply of cats as ammo | 02:36 |
| anteaya | these things I can and will do | 02:36 |
| mordred | anteaya: I just mean, I'm guessing that rental cats is probably not the right place to get supplies for all of the wet cats I've been throwing in here | 02:36 |
| anteaya | depends on how much you want to pay in fees | 02:37 |
| mordred | nod | 02:37 |
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| anteaya | much cheaper to own ammo | 02:37 |
| jroll | I'll need that back though | 02:37 |
| anteaya | imagine if you rented something and then threw it away | 02:37 |
| anteaya | the fees would never stop | 02:37 |
| mordred | :) | 02:37 |
| anteaya | :D | 02:37 |
| anteaya | okay at the summit during an infra session | 02:39 |
| anteaya | a wiki plugin that randomizes divs | 02:39 |
| anteaya | hand randomizing the tc election reponses is taking all my time | 02:40 |
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| jroll | anteaya: that's not really hard to do... | 02:44 |
| jroll | if I had a link, I could whip something up | 02:45 |
| jroll | or even a link to something that has similar markup | 02:45 |
| anteaya | jroll: here is the page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TC_Elections_October_2014 | 02:46 |
| jroll | anteaya: and what bits do you want to randomize? | 02:47 |
| anteaya | if you look in the history I am shuffling the answers on a per question basis: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TC_Elections_October_2014#Responses_to_TC_Election_Questions | 02:47 |
| jroll | ah | 02:47 |
| anteaya | so for one question, 12 responses | 02:47 |
| mordred | anteaya: there are too many candidates | 02:48 |
| mordred | anteaya: and they're all good | 02:48 |
| anteaya | the responses would ideally be in a different order every time the page was rendered | 02:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: yeah, a consistent problem we have, too many good candidates | 02:48 |
| mordred | anteaya: ooh, that would be fancy | 02:48 |
| jroll | there's no hierarchy :( | 02:48 |
| anteaya | jroll: what does that statement mean? | 02:48 |
| jroll | mordred: all of them except that monty guy, he's a joke | 02:48 |
| anteaya | he is entertaining | 02:48 |
| * mordred throws wet WorldsWorstCat at jroll | 02:48 | |
| mordred | please tell me you have both seen that, btw... | 02:49 |
| * anteaya intercepts cat | 02:49 | |
| anteaya | no | 02:49 |
| jroll | anteaya: in the markup, there's no structure to allow grabbing all answers for a given question | 02:49 |
| * anteaya dries off cat and rents it to the greek bookstore | 02:49 | |
| mordred | http://worstcats.tumblr.com/ | 02:49 |
| jroll | it may be able to be done, but not easilty | 02:49 |
| jroll | easily | 02:49 |
| mordred | anteaya: ^^ | 02:49 |
| anteaya | jroll: what do you suggest? | 02:49 |
| jroll | wow, I haven't seen this either | 02:49 |
| jroll | anteaya: I mean, I'll poke around, just not as easy as I thought | 02:49 |
| anteaya | jroll: even if I do it next round, tell me what markup you want to see | 02:50 |
| jroll | in terms of javascript | 02:50 |
| anteaya | jroll: right | 02:50 |
| anteaya | so this is an experiement | 02:50 |
| jroll | ah | 02:50 |
| anteaya | and I am learning I don't want to to this by hand *anymore* | 02:50 |
| jroll | indeed | 02:50 |
| mordred | yah. I think javascript is what you want | 02:50 |
| anteaya | so in 6 months I would like to have a different approach | 02:50 |
| jroll | ok, let me see | 02:50 |
| anteaya | don't know how to js a wikipage | 02:50 |
| jroll | anteaya: but it's unclear if these wiki pages have any structure at all, it seems to be one big flat layer | 02:51 |
| jroll | and every line break is a new <p> | 02:52 |
| jroll | it's kinda awful | 02:52 |
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| jroll | :( | 02:54 |
| anteaya | jroll: yeah | 02:55 |
| jroll | I think you'd have to put some weird pattern (tm) that could be parsed on | 02:55 |
| anteaya | I'm fine with that | 02:55 |
| anteaya | but what pattern | 02:55 |
| jroll | ok | 02:55 |
| jroll | idk, maybe the links on the names would work | 02:55 |
| anteaya | this is what I meant when I said a wikiplugin | 02:55 |
| jroll | yeah | 02:55 |
| jroll | I think that's a better idea :P | 02:55 |
| anteaya | it does demarate the beginning of a section | 02:56 |
| anteaya | I didn't think a straight js approach would work | 02:56 |
| jroll | yeah, it could but it would be a massive hack | 02:56 |
| anteaya | right | 02:56 |
| anteaya | which is why I didn't try it this time | 02:56 |
| anteaya | I knew it was going to be painful and it is | 02:57 |
| jroll | I have no idea about wiki plugins, but with pointers I'm happy to help | 02:57 |
| anteaya | but at least we have something readers can consume | 02:57 |
| jroll | maybe not tonight though, it's getting late :P | 02:57 |
| anteaya | to know whether it is worth the effort to make it easier next tiem | 02:57 |
| anteaya | jroll: yeah I'm done for the night too | 02:57 |
| anteaya | mordred: those are pretty horrible cats | 02:57 |
| anteaya | you are going to put your shoulder out throwing them around | 02:58 |
| jroll | anteaya: indeed, have a good night :) | 02:58 |
| jroll | also | 02:58 |
| anteaya | thanks you too | 02:58 |
| jroll | at least those cats don't shed | 02:58 |
| jroll | that's a win | 02:58 |
| anteaya | yes | 02:58 |
| anteaya | hate the hairballs | 02:58 |
| mordred | anteaya: "Let’s face it this cat is ugly. It’s all glistening and foldy, which are two things I don’t like cats to be." | 03:00 |
| mordred | anteaya: I think that's my favorite line | 03:00 |
| anteaya | one of my favourites | 03:00 |
| anteaya | yep | 03:00 |
| anteaya | liked the one covered in straw | 03:00 |
| anteaya | the first one covered in straw | 03:00 |
| mordred | I will admit, even as a cat lover - I do not prefer cats that are either foldy or glistening | 03:00 |
| anteaya | me too | 03:00 |
| mordred | yes. the first straw covered one is very good | 03:00 |
| anteaya | wouldn't want on jumping on my bed and walking up my body | 03:01 |
| anteaya | to settle on my rib cage and purr in my ear | 03:01 |
| anteaya | not exactly in my ear | 03:01 |
| anteaya | just aiming at it | 03:01 |
| anteaya | http://lolmythesis.com/post/70554694050/no-one-can-predict-an-election | 03:03 |
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| mordred | anteaya: nice | 03:05 |
| anteaya | http://lolmythesis.com/post/70537477164/conducting-research-in-collaborative-teams-is | 03:05 |
| anteaya | http://lolmythesis.com/post/70537409970/theater-technicians-dont-realize-theyre-speaking-a | 03:05 |
| anteaya | it is like these are all for me | 03:05 |
| anteaya | still working on getting rid of my black clothing | 03:06 |
| mordred | anteaya: not possible | 03:06 |
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| anteaya | there is always one more shirt in the back of the closet | 03:07 |
| anteaya | as well as the wrap gifts | 03:07 |
| anteaya | always black | 03:07 |
| anteaya | black scarfs | 03:07 |
| anteaya | black fleeces | 03:07 |
| mordred | anteaya: besides, if you get rid of all of your theatre blacks, how will you ever be able to come work on the next production of '... baby no more times'??? | 03:07 |
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| anteaya | that concern keeps me away at night | 03:09 |
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| anteaya | I sometimes think about taking two weeks off | 03:09 |
| anteaya | renting a theatre | 03:09 |
| anteaya | and hosting a production | 03:09 |
| anteaya | you could light | 03:09 |
| anteaya | jim could stage manage | 03:09 |
| anteaya | I could do the show | 03:09 |
| anteaya | I just don't have the time to find a good script | 03:10 |
| anteaya | or write one | 03:10 |
| anteaya | the theater in atlanta I would love to rent | 03:10 |
| mordred | the fox? | 03:10 |
| mordred | yeah. | 03:10 |
| mordred | I mean, it's not a particularly bad space :) | 03:10 |
| anteaya | tried it out | 03:16 |
| anteaya | went on stage and got kicked off | 03:16 |
| anteaya | would have filled the theater with song but there was a tour roup in the balcony | 03:16 |
| anteaya | and I didn't want to scare them | 03:17 |
| anteaya | while I was waiting for them to leave the guard got me off stage | 03:17 |
| anteaya | so I went into the balcony and sang | 03:17 |
| anteaya | the acoustics are amazing there | 03:17 |
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| stevedroid | Ping | 03:33 |
| stevedroid | Did the beta release of sphinx break some doc builds? ... | 03:34 |
| stevedroid | http://logs.openstack.org/16/120316/6/check/gate-oslotest-docs/70e09ea/console.html | 03:34 |
| anteaya | looks like that's a yes to me | 03:35 |
| anteaya | stevedroid: able to file a bug against sphinx? | 03:36 |
| anteaya | 15 in check and 5 in the gate | 03:36 |
| stevedroid | Anteaya on my phone, limited acces.... | 03:36 |
| anteaya | kk | 03:36 |
| stevedroid | Let me tether to laptop | 03:37 |
| anteaya | kk | 03:37 |
| stevedroid | #dedicated | 03:37 |
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| anteaya | stevemar: you are | 03:38 |
| stevemar | anteaya, there we go | 03:39 |
| anteaya | do sphinx bugs get tracked on bugs.python.org? | 03:39 |
| anteaya | stevemar: now you are yourself again | 03:39 |
| stevemar | anteaya, i'm not sure about the sphinx bugs, but i can certainly put a request to block it in requirements | 03:39 |
| stevemar | and an ER | 03:40 |
| anteaya | yes we can begin there | 03:40 |
| anteaya | true | 03:40 |
| stevemar | is an ER worth it? | 03:40 |
| anteaya | can't hurt | 03:40 |
| stevemar | anteaya, which project should i file the bug against for changing req? or not needed (i think not needed...) | 03:40 |
| anteaya | requirements repo? | 03:41 |
| * anteaya looks | 03:41 | |
| anteaya | the bug for the er patch | 03:41 |
| anteaya | well you saw it in oslotest-docs | 03:41 |
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| anteaya | so oslo? | 03:41 |
| anteaya | it can get moved around after it is filed | 03:42 |
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| anteaya | it appears sphinx breaks quite a bit: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/global-requirements.txt#n214 | 03:43 |
| stevemar | thats true | 03:45 |
| anteaya | maybe we should just pin it to not upgrade | 03:47 |
| anteaya | unless we test it first | 03:47 |
| anteaya | it doesn't seem to be able to be trusted with auto upgrading | 03:47 |
| stevemar | anteaya, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127712/ | 03:48 |
| stevemar | i thought we don't pin the bottom version :( | 03:48 |
| stevemar | seems like it | 03:48 |
| anteaya | so 1.3b1 got through the <1.3 filter | 03:50 |
| anteaya | so .3b seems like it is < .3 | 03:50 |
| anteaya | how interesting | 03:50 |
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| anteaya | stevemar: here is the tracker: https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issues/ | 03:52 |
| stevemar | nice find | 03:53 |
| anteaya | thanks | 03:53 |
| anteaya | want to file something? | 03:53 |
| stevemar | anteaya, yep, all beta's are less than the actual | 03:53 |
| anteaya | just to say we did? | 03:53 |
| stevemar | this has been a headache before | 03:53 |
| anteaya | wonderful | 03:53 |
| anteaya | seems so | 03:53 |
| stevemar | not with sphinx | 03:53 |
| stevemar | but others | 03:53 |
| anteaya | ah | 03:53 |
| anteaya | the betas getting through | 03:54 |
| anteaya | dhellmann ttx zul jd__ GheRivero when you have a moment we need to pin sphinx https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127712/ | 03:55 |
| stevemar | anteaya, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127713/ | 03:55 |
| anteaya | and thank youo | 03:55 |
| anteaya | only two hits so far | 03:57 |
| anteaya | hopefully we can get this pinned fast | 03:57 |
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| stevemar | hope so | 03:58 |
| stevemar | i think both my patch :) | 03:58 |
| anteaya | I think both your patch too | 03:59 |
| stevemar | unless oslotest does something funky with the requirements | 03:59 |
| anteaya | seems to only be olsotest so far | 03:59 |
| stevemar | i'm wondering why others haven't hit it yet... should be breaking all doc builds (i think) | 03:59 |
| anteaya | I'm too tired to think | 03:59 |
| anteaya | sorry | 03:59 |
| anteaya | :( | 03:59 |
| anteaya | but I appreciate you speaking up | 03:59 |
| anteaya | nice work | 03:59 |
| anteaya | I need to be offline now | 03:59 |
| anteaya | you haven't family and food this weekend? | 04:00 |
| anteaya | *having? | 04:00 |
| stevemar | anteaya, yeah, on saturday and monday | 04:00 |
| anteaya | nice | 04:00 |
| stevemar | sunday i actually have a wedding to go to :P | 04:00 |
| anteaya | who has a wedding on thanksgiving? | 04:00 |
| anteaya | I'm just tomorrow | 04:00 |
| anteaya | then done | 04:00 |
| stevemar | i think the hosts didn't realize it at the time :P | 04:01 |
| anteaya | you are kidding | 04:01 |
| stevemar | nope | 04:01 |
| anteaya | where is it? | 04:01 |
| anteaya | in TO? | 04:01 |
| stevemar | it's pretty funny | 04:01 |
| stevemar | yep, in TO | 04:01 |
| anteaya | no kidding | 04:01 |
| anteaya | how do you miss thanksgiving? | 04:01 |
| anteaya | where? | 04:01 |
| stevemar | at the bell lightbox | 04:01 |
| anteaya | ewwwww | 04:01 |
| stevemar | i think it was an honest mistake | 04:02 |
| anteaya | what a horrible venue | 04:02 |
| anteaya | the sunday of thanksgiving or the bell lightbox? | 04:02 |
| stevemar | ha! | 04:02 |
| stevemar | the sunday of thanksgiving | 04:02 |
| anteaya | they are two for two so far | 04:02 |
| stevemar | but open bar! | 04:02 |
| anteaya | take a sandwich and pocket video game | 04:02 |
| stevemar | so big +1 in my book | 04:02 |
| stevemar | hehe | 04:03 |
| anteaya | well hopefully they hired someone who can figure out what that means | 04:03 |
| stevemar | hehe, you are punchy tonight! | 04:03 |
| anteaya | I told you I was tired | 04:03 |
| stevemar | too much openstack | 04:03 |
| stevemar | ha | 04:03 |
| anteaya | this is what tired looks like | 04:03 |
| stevemar | fair enough :) | 04:03 |
| anteaya | so I'll stop | 04:03 |
| anteaya | and sleep (oh my god, noise go away) | 04:04 |
| anteaya | have a good weekend | 04:04 |
| stevemar | i had a cup of coffee an hour ago, i'll be wired all night | 04:04 |
| stevemar | you too! | 04:04 |
| anteaya | I can't drink coffee | 04:04 |
| anteaya | for exactly that reason | 04:04 |
| anteaya | you don't want me up all night | 04:04 |
| anteaya | believe me | 04:04 |
| anteaya | :D | 04:04 |
| anteaya | see ya | 04:04 |
| stevemar | mine was strategic, i have to drive soon | 04:04 |
| stevemar | alrighty, have a good one! | 04:04 |
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| clarkb | ianw it seems that I can build centos7 image on trusty | 04:57 |
| clarkb | just not on precise | 04:57 |
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| ianw | clarkb: seems reasonable ... i was thinking it would be easy enough to detect precise and get a more recent tar from somewhere, just build it maybe. as a work-around... | 06:13 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya: did I send you http://www.lecafedeschats.fr already? | 14:42 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya: +2a on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127712/ | 14:46 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya, stevemar: https://review.openstack.org/127754 addresses the issue for oslotest | 14:50 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: commented on the bug, but blacklisting a beta in global requirements seems unnecessary (and potentially harmful). the previous version string there did not mention any beta releases so as long as we weren't leaving tox at its default --pre behavior it shouldn't have been introduced right? | 15:29 |
| fungi | dhellmann: and now that we are putting a prerelease version in the version string, won't pip default to also considering prereleases of sphinx fair game for any projects which take the proposed requirements update? | 15:29 |
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| fungi | so if sphinx maintainers upload 1.3b2 to pypi, now every project with a !=1.3b1 in their requirements will start using 1.3b2 | 15:32 |
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| fungi | instead of sticking strictly to release versions of sphinx | 15:33 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: running tox -e pep8 for oslotest, pip-1.log says cmdargs=[local('/home/fungi/work/openstack/openstack/oslotest/.tox/pep8/bin/pip'), 'install', '--pre', '-r/home/fungi/work/openstack/openstack/oslotest/requirements.txt', '-r/home/fungi/work/openstack/openstack/oslotest/test-requirements.txt'] | 15:44 |
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| fungi | which explains why it pulled in a prerelease | 15:44 |
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| fungi | i think this is strictly an oslotest bug | 15:44 |
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| fungi | right, its tox.ini doesn't override install_command | 15:48 |
| fungi | testing to confirm that fixes it | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Ignore sphinx 1.3b1 https://review.openstack.org/127712 | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/127757 | 15:49 |
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| fungi | yep, confirmed that works. fixes and reverts on the way now | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Revert "Ignore sphinx 1.3b1" https://review.openstack.org/127803 | 15:59 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: the proper fix for oslosphinx is https://review.openstack.org/127794 and the https://review.openstack.org/127803 attempts to contain the damage | 16:01 |
| fungi | ttx: ^ (since you were the other +2 on that) | 16:01 |
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| fungi | oh, i see https://review.openstack.org/127754 was actually the same change as my https://review.openstack.org/127794 (missed that on my first reading of the bug). regardless, we shouldn't be pushing out global requirements changes to all projects to solve a misconfiguration in one project | 16:06 |
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| fungi | and with some further testing, it does appear that current tox versions don't actually look at != in a requirement to decide whether they should start considering prerelease versions valid (you actually have to change one of the </<=/==/>=/> versions to a prerelease to get that behavior) | 16:12 |
| fungi | so the global requirements change isn't strictly dangerous thankfully, just unnecessary | 16:12 |
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| fungi | oh well, now that i feel fully redundant, i'm going to go back to weekending | 16:23 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: when I approved the requirements change I didn't realize it was limited to oslotest :-/ | 16:56 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: yeah, and when i redundantly dug into the bug causing the emergency requirements change i totally missed that you'd already spotted the problem | 16:58 |
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| fungi | weekends | 16:58 |
| fungi | maybe i should have a beer | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | fungi: yeah, sorry, I should have left more info in the bug report | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | fungi: great idea, I'll join you | 16:59 |
| fungi | not a big deal. i'm just glad pip is smart enough to disregard != of prereleases for auto --pre determination | 16:59 |
| fungi | dstufft is smarter than i am | 16:59 |
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| anteaya | dhellmann: oh I hadn't seen the cat cafe previously | 17:56 |
| anteaya | it looks awesome | 17:56 |
| anteaya | you can reserve a cat | 17:57 |
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| rainya | anteaya, a cat cafe? | 19:02 |
| rainya | anteaya, so you can reserve a cat to like pet and stuff? | 19:02 |
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| mordred | fungi: I got the ansible launch stuff working as far as being able to specify a host, a cinder volume, having the volume attached, formatted and mounted all without having to know any of the details other tahn "give me a volume and mount it here please" | 19:27 |
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| fungi | rainya: based on my reading, this is the primary reason to visit greece. forget classical history, ancient ruins, et cetera... they have cats | 19:58 |
| rainya | fungi, even better than olives and feta cheese by my measure. | 20:00 |
| fungi | mordred: that's an unfortunate amount of effort for something which should be 'openstack boot --with-volume=/opt:100g' | 20:00 |
| rainya | fungi, is that amount of effort to use ansible to orchestrate launching a volume-backed server (because the elegant boot --with-volume option doesn't exist)? | 20:01 |
| fungi | rainya: basically | 20:02 |
| rainya | bummer | 20:02 |
| fungi | also, "work is the curse of the drinking classes" - oscar wilde | 20:02 |
| rainya | i mean, "good job, mordred!" | 20:02 |
| mordred | fungi: I agree - but hopefully the ansible will help us hide the fact that the thing you listed is't how it works | 20:03 |
| fungi | mordred: yep, i;m excited. i just worrk that it will allow these shortcomings to be less blatantly obvious | 20:04 |
| fungi | er, worry | 20:04 |
| fungi | that's either a problem for nova and cinder to solve between themselves, or a complication something openstackclient needs to hide from users )probably both in the long run) | 20:05 |
| fungi | it would be sort of amusing+disappointing if openstackclient became a wrapper around ansible ;) | 20:06 |
| clarkb | which is a wrapper around libmordred | 20:07 |
| fungi | bwahahahaha | 20:07 |
| mordred | hehe | 20:13 |
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| dtroyer | fungi: my evil plan is for openstackclient (less the shell) to become the high-level SDK and Rule The World!!! so ansible becomes a wrapper around libosc ;) | 20:36 |
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| fungi | dtroyer: that's the spirit | 20:36 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: ++ | 20:55 |
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| fungi | teehee http://thecodelesscode.com/case/163 | 22:01 |
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