Friday, 2014-10-24

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Shrews	fungi: i have no life, but i do have conference ick it would seem	00:03
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fungi	Shrews: oh, ew. stay on your side of the state then	00:05
fungi	where did you pick up the ick?	00:05
Shrews	fungi: ATO	00:05
fungi	ahh, right. i was lazy and skipped it this year	00:05
fungi	since i expect to be at owf next week	00:05
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Shrews	also, i have no idea what's going on with gearman these days. but i highly suspect nothing	00:06
fungi	Shrews: did you get to heckle pleia2 at all?	00:06
Shrews	fungi: yup! she gave a great talk	00:06
fungi	awesome	00:06
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fungi	she's an excellent presenter	00:06
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clarkb	ok python depreaction email is about to go out	00:27
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jesusaurus	clarkb: ive responded to your comment about the block you think is a noop. that block is needed to prevent moving the exception across threads	00:39
jesusaurus	clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/43/74943/17/check/gate-nodepool-python26/7497622/console.html.gz#_2014-10-17_02_05_11_459 is a traceback of what happens without that except block	00:40
clarkb	jesusaurus: its equivalent code though	00:40
clarkb	you are saying catch e then raise e	00:40
clarkb	which shouldn't be any different than letting e pass through	00:40
jesusaurus	clarkb: but it doesnt let e pass through	00:40
jesusaurus	it moves e to the other thread	00:40
clarkb	raise e is taking the same object and throwing it again	00:41
pleia2	fungi, Shrews thanks :)	00:42
jesusaurus	yes, i know, because it needs to be raised for the code path to work	00:42
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clarkb	jesusaurus: I guess I don't understand how that code can be different even with threads	00:43
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clarkb	er not be a noop	00:43
clarkb	if it was a different object I could see that	00:44
fungi	yet another problem in the nodepool vhost config	00:44
clarkb	but its the same one	00:44
openstackgerrit	Michael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support additional events for HipChat plugin https://review.openstack.org/129760	00:44
jesusaurus	clarkb: well, experimentally, removing that code makes it not work so its not a noop. looking closer at Task.exception() you can see that instead of raising the exception, we are setting _wait_event	00:45
clarkb	yes, it basically flags an exception state	00:45
clarkb	jesusaurus: and that code only catches if you first catch then rethrow?	00:45
clarkb	I may need to fiddle with this locally to get a grasp oof it	00:45
openstackgerrit	Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/system-config: Correct nodepool log vhost directory path https://review.openstack.org/130663	00:46
jesusaurus	clarkb: yeah, if i dont catch and rethrow then the exception gets raised through a different code path	00:46
fungi	ianw: clarkb: ^	00:46
clarkb	jesusaurus: ok we can probably ignore my comments about that for now then. Note you don't need to use as e then raise e, you can just 'raise'	00:46
clarkb	jesusaurus: but thats not a big deal	00:46
clarkb	and I will try fiddling locally to grok what is going on	00:46
clarkb	fungi: looking	00:46
fungi	with that additional edit, apache on nodepool correctly parses the vhost config	00:47
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clarkb	approved	00:48
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tchaypo	thanks anteaya, I'll do something about that when I can (probably sunday or monday)	00:52
tchaypo	clarkb: tell me more about zuul cloner	00:52
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tchaypo	or i could just read the docs	00:53
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clarkb	tchaypo: it basically takes a state of git world and applies it to git repos	00:53
clarkb	where that state is expressed by zuul	00:53
tchaypo	clarkb: yeah, looking at that, it seems like there's significant overlap in terms of what they do	00:54
tchaypo	the biggest difference I'm seeing is that prep-source-repos has a yaml file to list the repos and the patches to apply	00:54
tchaypo	urr. to rephrase	00:54
tchaypo	zuul clone seems to be able to get repo X at ref Y	00:55
tchaypo	prep-source-repos gets repo X at ref Y, then applies A B and C from gerrit reviews	00:55
tchaypo	zuul clone seems to have a --patchset option but http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/cloner.html doesn't seem to say what that does; I'm guessing that's just providing a patchset number as the ref to check out	00:56
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tchaypo	prep-source-repos can take many patchsets and apply them sequentually	00:56
tchaypo	sequentially?	00:56
tchaypo	that looks more righter.	00:56
clarkb	ya I think that is the difference	00:57
tchaypo	I'm thinking I should add a section in the READM that mentions similar tools	00:57
tchaypo	this is different from pull-tools in tripleo-incubator because..	00:57
tchaypo	it's different from zuul cloner because ...	00:57
clarkb	so I am wondering if maybe the tools can/should converge?	00:58
clarkb	I dunno I spent a day debugging toci cloning last week	00:58
clarkb	only because its different than everything else...	00:58
clarkb	which isn't necessarily bad other than the fact that it does basically the same thing so learning a new thing is a waste of time	00:58
openstackgerrit	K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Reset the client object before creating the image https://review.openstack.org/74943	00:58
tchaypo	yeah, I think they should	01:00
tchaypo	jp-at-hp had a patch to add another similar tool to -incubator - it does a bit more than pull tools, but not as much as prep-source-repos	01:00
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Correct nodepool log vhost directory path https://review.openstack.org/130663	01:04
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ianw	fungi: sorry again :(	01:11
fungi	ianw: don't apologize for your work! i think that's about fixed it up though	01:13
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ianw	fungi: if around, can you just grep to see if that centos7 username fix worked?	01:45
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fungi	ianw: looks like it's still looping, but also the accelerated log rotation doesn't seem to do what we expected (at least it seems to have not rotated yet)	01:53
ianw	fungi: still with a login failure?	01:53
ianw	fungi: the rotation would require a nodepool restart?	01:54
openstackgerrit	Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: fix delete job command and add tests https://review.openstack.org/127370	01:55
fungi	ianw: the rotation change tried to trigger a restart	01:55
fungi	ianw: i ended up fixing the hung restart by restarting it manually	01:56
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ianw	oh, ok	01:58
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fungi	so i think it should have rotated since, unless i'm misremembering how the rotation scheduling args work	02:04
fungi	anyway, i'm knocking off for the night but will check in on it again when i wake up	02:05
ianw	fungi: no worries, thanks for babysitting it	02:05
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fungi	yw	02:06
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ianw	fungi: oh, well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130639/ didn't merge so the centos thing will still be ongoing, sorry	02:08
* ianw has too many things going in parallel :)		02:09
anteaya	tchaypo: okay, please make a note in a comment on that patch and mark it wip so it does'nt get merged prior to you fixing the seed repo	02:10
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anteaya	and then comment again once the seed repo is cleaned up	02:10
viglesias	okay folks im back and willing to field any and all suggestions for getting zuul(gearman) to kick my jenkins jobs	02:14
viglesias	fire away and i will do stuffs	02:14
clarkb	viglesias so you have jobs registered in gearman with workers?	02:16
viglesias	ack	02:16
viglesias	to make sure we are using the same nomenclature:	02:16
viglesias	I run zuul `show running-jobs`	02:16
viglesias	http://hastebin.com/bisuvugate.py	02:17
viglesias	and when i telnet to zuul	02:17
viglesias	and run workers:	02:18
viglesias	http://hastebin.com/rerununodi.css	02:18
clarkb	can you do `status` instead of workers?	02:18
viglesias	yep	02:19
viglesias	http://hastebin.com/hoduqufidi.avrasm	02:19
viglesias	layout.yml for posterity http://hastebin.com/uyuyikidaj.sm	02:20
clarkb	so zuul has queued 3 eutester-test jobs (paste 1)	02:20
viglesias	ack	02:20
viglesias	fyi i set the trigger to 'comment-added' so i could trigger more easily	02:21
clarkb	paste 3 shows no eutester-test queued in gearman or workers to run that test	02:21
* viglesias looks		02:21
clarkb	(paste 3)	02:21
viglesias	ack	02:21
viglesias	but 2 does show eutester-test as a viable build	02:22
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clarkb	I would start by getting workers for eutester-test to show up in paste3	02:22
clarkb	ya its listed it just has no workers	02:22
viglesias	hmmm	02:22
clarkb	we should fix the worker shortage first and go from there	02:22
viglesias	word	02:22
viglesias	any recommended path to that, ie is it config on zuul or jenkins?	02:23
clarkb	jenkins.	02:23
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viglesias	kk, so i have a job called eutester-test, is there more labelling or config necessary?	02:23
clarkb	make sure that the eutester-test confug in jenkins has slaves it can run on	02:23
viglesias	maybe untick and retick the gearman plugin again?	02:23
viglesias	yeah i ran it manually	02:23
clarkb	no gearman is fine	02:23
clarkb	I think you have the labelset to anything	02:24
viglesias	one possible wrench is that my master is where things are going to execute	02:24
clarkb	but no anything nodes	02:24
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viglesias	clarkb: so the thing i need is for >1 to show up in the output of 'status' in the first column?	02:25
clarkb	third column	02:25
viglesias	k i saw 5 there last night	02:25
* viglesias checks again		02:26
clarkb	its queued to run, running, workers available	02:26
viglesias	hmm wtf wonder why every other job has 5	02:26
viglesias	ok clarkb badass	02:26
viglesias	thanks sir for pointing me in the right direction	02:26
viglesias	or madam	02:26
viglesias	definitely not how that is spelled	02:27
anteaya	clarkb is male	02:27
viglesias	cool, just gotta make sure]	02:27
anteaya	yup	02:27
clarkb	no problem	02:27
viglesias	one other question, most 5 jobs have just build:$job, then eutester test has 2 entries	02:28
viglesias	build:eutester-test:anything	02:28
viglesias	build:eutester-test	02:28
viglesias	neither have a worker	02:28
viglesias	any nuance to that?	02:28
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clarkb	the :anything suffix is there because you have a label 'anything' on the job	02:28
viglesias	k	02:29
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clarkb	gearman plugin does that so if you have multiple labels you can be specific about which labeled slave runs the job	02:29
clarkb	if you remove the label it may register it properly against the master	02:29
* viglesias removes label		02:31
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pleia2	Lily___ is having some trouble with her Gerrit account, if someone could give her a hand	02:35
pleia2	now I'm going to bed for real	02:35
anteaya	Lily___: what is up?	02:36
viglesias	clarkb: so now i have workers for eutester-test, but back at the Worker:None state as far as zuul client is concerned (pastes incoming)	02:36
anteaya	pleia2: happy bed	02:36
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viglesias	http://hastebin.com/turimayima.avrasm	02:36
Lily____	Hi @here	02:36
viglesias	http://hastebin.com/saqololexi.hs	02:37
Lily____	I have an issue about input my contact into http://review.openstack.org, in "settings"->"Contact Information", I fulfill my contact information and click "save changes", Then I always met "Cannot store contact information", Could someone here to help me?	02:37
anteaya	Lily____: ah	02:37
anteaya	sure	02:37
clarkb	viglesias looks like it dropped to one queued job? did the other two run?	02:37
clarkb	(second paste)	02:37
anteaya	let's firs of all make sure you are following all the steps	02:37
viglesias	clarkb: i restarted zuul and the disappeared	02:37
clarkb	oh ok	02:37
viglesias	clarkb: verifiable from jenkins perspective	02:38
clarkb	viglesias zuuland jenkins are connected to same gearman?	02:38
anteaya	Lily____: so starting from here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup	02:38
viglesias	clarkb: ack afaik	02:38
anteaya	Lily____: you have a launchpad account, correct?	02:38
Lily____	yes,	02:38
anteaya	Lily____: great	02:38
viglesias	clarkb: are there steps to verify just in case	02:38
Lily____	xiao-li.wei@hp.com	02:38
clarkb	viglesias its like the two disagree	02:39
viglesias	it may be that my zuul is pissing in the wind	02:39
viglesias	clarkb: i agree with that	02:39
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clarkb	viglesias check your zuul.conf	02:39
anteaya	Lily____: have you joined the openstack foundation? https://www.openstack.org/join/	02:39
clarkb	and jenkins global config	02:39
clarkb	they should use the same gearman host:port combo	02:39
viglesias	clarkb: http://hastebin.com/ovaloriqex.ini	02:39
viglesias	maybe thats not quite right	02:39
Lily____	I need to join " Individual Member: Free"? right?	02:40
anteaya	viglesias: we do try to keep any kind of cursing/colourful language to a minimum	02:40
anteaya	Lily____: yes	02:40
viglesias	anteaya: my apologies	02:40
anteaya	Lily____: use the same email you used for gerrit	02:40
Lily____	OK, let me try now. @anteaya	02:40
anteaya	viglesias: none needed, you are learning	02:40
anteaya	Lily____: sure	02:40
clarkb	viglesias: so zuul localhost is where gearman runson port 4730 if you ps you should see two zuul-server processes. the child is geard. you can then netstat or lsof to see if that process is listening on tcp 4730	02:41
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clarkb	viglesias then on jenkins side it should be pointed at zuulhost's port 4730	02:42
viglesias	ack	02:42
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Lily____	@anteaya, Could you let me know which Affiliation do I need to add, I was an HPer.	02:44
anteaya	sure	02:44
anteaya	just say HP	02:44
Lily____	cool	02:44
anteaya	are you still with HP?	02:44
clarkb	or unaffiliated if now applicable	02:44
viglesias	clarkb: i dont see a geard running	02:44
clarkb	the process name is zuul-server	02:44
clarkb	there should be 2 with that name a parent and child	02:45
viglesias	yep got it	02:45
clarkb	is it still missing?	02:45
viglesias	nope got 2	02:45
clarkb	cool	02:45
clarkb	oh I wonder if we are waiting on merger	02:46
clarkb	is the zuul-merger process running too?	02:46
viglesias	YES!! my merger is probably borked!!!!!!!	02:46
viglesias	no merger running	02:46
Lily____	@anteaya, I have join openstack foundation now. but I got the same issue when I do "git review"	02:46
viglesias	gotta take a break clarkb, you have been awesome, thank you so much	02:47
Lily____	@anteaya, yes, I still an HPer.	02:47
clarkb	ok so next step is start the merger hopefullly that gets jobs running	02:47
anteaya	Lily____: go to settings in your gerrit	02:47
* viglesias will start looking at his merger config		02:47
anteaya	Lily____: do you have a gerrit username set?	02:47
* viglesias is stoked for moving forward		02:47
viglesias	thanks all	02:47
anteaya	https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/	02:47
anteaya	Lily____: under profile > Username	02:48
anteaya	what do you see there?	02:48
Lily____	yes	02:49
anteaya	what is your username?	02:49
Lily____	I can input my contact information now, and "git review" looks ok now, Thank you very much @anteaya	02:50
Lily____	my username is xiao-li-wei.	02:50
Lily____	lily@ubuntu:~/git/openstack.org/openstack-dev/sandbox$ git review remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (1/1) remote: Processing changes: refs: 1, done remote: ERROR: missing Change-Id in commit message footer remote: Suggestion for commit message: remote: test git review. remote: remote: Change-Id: I175c619d277484eaaf31e59de42818f176cda1dc remote: remote: Hint: To automatically insert Change-Id, install the hook: remote: gitdir	02:51
anteaya	great well done	02:51
anteaya	let me tell you about paste.openstack.org	02:51
anteaya	http://paste.openstack.org/	02:52
Lily____	great man, Thank you very much	02:52
anteaya	it is useful for any code you wish to share longer than 2 lines	02:52
anteaya	<- woman	02:52
anteaya	and you are welcome	02:52
Lily____	OK, :)	02:52
anteaya	:D	02:52
anteaya	welcome to openstack	02:52
Lily____	;)	02:52
anteaya	reading the developer documentation I linked you to would be a great beginning	02:53
anteaya	and if we are at a lull, I think I am off to bed	02:54
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anteaya	g'night	02:55
Lily____	OK, bye @anteaya	02:55
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ameade	Hey folks, devstack just switched to downloading a head image from the downloads.fedoraproject.org site....i'm having an issue in the netapp ci system where for some odd reason, unbound only randomly resolves that hostname	03:07
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clarkb	ameade it doesnt consistently resolve?	03:12
ameade	clarkb: nslookup download.fedoraproject.org 8.8.8.8 works like a charm	03:13
ameade	nslookup download.fedoraproject.org 127.0.0.1 fails	03:14
ameade	it's weird, other hostnames all seem fine	03:14
clarkb	what is unbound resolving against?	03:14
ameade	clarkb: rackspace name server, 69.20.0.164	03:15
ameade	nslookup download.fedoraproject.org 69.20.0.164 works fine too	03:15
clarkb	I wouldnt use rax dns. we specifically unbound against google to avoid rax	03:15
clarkb	they dont unblacklist rate limited IPs	03:16
clarkb	then IP is recycled	03:16
clarkb	and you have no dns	03:16
ameade	clarkb: whoa, ok i changed it to google and reloaded unbound to clear any caches and it's working	03:17
ameade	clarkb: THANKS	03:17
ameade	i'll test that out on another node to see if it fixes my problem	03:17
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viglesias	clarkb: i think you got me one step closer, so 1st i didnt have a /var/lib/zuul	03:27
viglesias	now i can see the merger in the status output but with no workers	03:27
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viglesias	merger:merge 2 0 0	03:27
viglesias	i am assuming the first column is queued jobs	03:27
clarkb	you want to run a zuul-merger process	03:27
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viglesias	ack on it!	03:28
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viglesias	ok so i am passed that issue! on to the next, the merge is failing due to perm issues...	03:32
viglesias	what i see is that its using my gerrit username to do the clone against the gerrit ssh git endpoint	03:33
viglesias	ie:	03:33
viglesias	git clone -v ssh://viglesias@localhost:29418/eutester /var/lib/zuul/git/eutester	03:33
viglesias	and that is failing with perm denied	03:33
viglesias	i dont see any config in zuul.conf that maps an ssh key to that call	03:33
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viglesias	ah is that the zuul.conf ssh key?	03:34
* viglesias is looking at /var/lib/zuul/git/.ssh_wrapper		03:34
clarkb	ya the wrapper sets that up iirc	03:34
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viglesias	clarkb: so what should the key be	03:36
viglesias	ie where in gerrit should i register the priv key that i set in the zuul config	03:37
clarkb	or you can set it up so that the user running the merger has the right key in ~/.ssh	03:37
clarkb	you should put the public key in gerrit for the account you have in gerrit	03:37
* viglesias breaks it down a bit more for his own edification		03:39
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viglesias	so i registered a pub key to my gerrit account (viglesias) such that i can push with git-review	03:39
viglesias	the priv key on zuul needs to be the private key associated with that pub key?	03:39
viglesias	i think i am missing something about that chain	03:40
viglesias	should i make a zuul user in gerrit	03:41
viglesias	and give it a pub/priv ssh pair	03:41
* viglesias tries anyway :)		03:41
* viglesias realizes its the same thing		03:41
clarkb	I would use a second key	03:43
clarkb	are you trying to do third party testing against review.openstack.org?	03:43
clarkb	if so eventually you will want a dedicated service account	03:44
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viglesias	clarkb: got any info about how the merger serves up its git repos	03:56
viglesias	thats my next hurdle, i see the zuul_url is the parameter used but not sure how its supposed to be setup	03:57
* viglesias scratches that last statement		03:57
viglesias	zuul.Gerrit: Cannot get references from https://localhost/p/eutester/info/refs?service=git-upload-pack	03:58
viglesias	ok so i need to change https://localhost to http://my-gerrit-server:port	03:59
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clarkb	we run apache in front of /var/lib/git on the merger	04:01
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viglesias	k, so 1 sec ago merges were working and now not so much anymore	04:04
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viglesias	anybody know which private key the merger is using to run this command:	04:36
viglesias	git clone -v ssh://viglesias@10.0.1.137:29418/eutester /var/lib/zuul/git/eutester	04:36
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openstackgerrit	Magnus Lundin proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Rich Text Publisher Plugin https://review.openstack.org/130455	05:27
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mordred	viglesias: looks like you're getting closer ...	05:48
viglesias	mordred: most definitely	05:49
viglesias	thanks to clarkb's help i am now getting the merger to kick	05:49
viglesias	but its failing to checkout due to this: http://hastebin.com/waqoniqoqu.py	05:50
viglesias	not sure on that one	05:50
viglesias	but definitely some progress today	05:50
viglesias	i dont see it cloning the repo in the first place	05:50
viglesias	namely, in /var/lib/zuul/git/eutester/ i only have a .git directory but no files	05:51
viglesias	not sure if thats expected or not	05:51
mordred	viglesias: on the merger?	05:53
mordred	viglesias: yeah - it doesn't actually check out files there - only manipulates the git refs in the repo	05:54
openstackgerrit	Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add jobs to api-wg repo https://review.openstack.org/130363	05:54
viglesias	mordred: ack	05:58
StevenK	It's a bare repo	05:58
StevenK	For space and size concerns, I guess	05:58
* viglesias starts monkey patching		06:01
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viglesias	ok so legitimately there is no ref to head, only the two branches that have been uploaded	06:03
viglesias	anybody know how to fix that type of issue	06:03
viglesias	ok so in gerrit, i see it has a HEAD set as master which is not the branch that is the default for git-review	06:04
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viglesias	do you need to push the default branches first with a special git-review command?	06:11
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openstackgerrit	Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add jobs to api-wg repo https://review.openstack.org/130363	06:34
openstackgerrit	Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add the API working group guidelines to specs.o.org https://review.openstack.org/130701	06:37
openstackgerrit	Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add the API working group guidelines to specs.o.org https://review.openstack.org/130701	06:37
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viglesias	ill be damned i got things to kick	06:53
viglesias	thanks all for your help over the last few days	06:53
mordred	viglesias: WOOT!	06:59
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viglesias	lol at the 141 builds that just fired off	07:10
viglesias	ahhh lol, so yeah if you set the trigger as comment-added, the fact that the build reports back kick itself	07:13
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mordred	hahaha	07:39
mordred	nice	07:39
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Add kerberos and afs servers to cacti https://review.openstack.org/129977	07:47
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Add a new openstack-specs repo under the control of the TC https://review.openstack.org/125508	08:04
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Add jobs to api-wg repo https://review.openstack.org/130363	08:15
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Update gearman-plugin to version 0.1.1. https://review.openstack.org/130656	08:16
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Login with 'centos' user for node launch https://review.openstack.org/130639	08:56
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Host a devstack.org redirect on static https://review.openstack.org/130001	09:03
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openstackgerrit	Mike Heald proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for scripts in the inject builder https://review.openstack.org/117528	09:48
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Rename config => system-config in devstack-gate https://review.openstack.org/130254	10:07
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openstackgerrit	Tim Kelsey proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Adding basic Python tests to stackforge/bandit https://review.openstack.org/130734	10:44
openstackgerrit	Julie Pichon proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: JSHint job updates https://review.openstack.org/130735	10:44
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Start libification of jjb https://review.openstack.org/107724	10:56
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openstackgerrit	afazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: multi-node dg setup https://review.openstack.org/106043	11:35
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openstackgerrit	yolanda.robla proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add option for is_debian to support it https://review.openstack.org/130768	12:37
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fungi	reminder... afs demo at 16:00 utc today, 'telnet afstest.openstack.org 8888' for the command-line stream and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing for audio narrative	13:17
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rcarrillocruz	whoa	13:20
rcarrillocruz	asterisk based conf?	13:20
rcarrillocruz	that's cool!	13:20
fungi	we're just cool like that	13:20
fungi	it runs in a nova virtual machine instance in a public service provider too... imagine that	13:21
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BobBall	mtreinish: It seems the XenServer CI is frozen atm - can't recreate images (which is needed to fix the tempest-lib issue)... Working on it but wanted to let you know. Hopefully we can fix it before that change gets merged. fingers crossed	13:24
openstackgerrit	Tim Kelsey proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Adding basic Python tests to stackforge/bandit https://review.openstack.org/130734	13:26
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openstackgerrit	Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Merger: ensure_cloned() now looks for '.git' https://review.openstack.org/123437	13:27
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rcarrillocruz	fungi: any chance you could review and approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129876/ if all looks good to you? I rebased and got previous +2 from SergeyLukjanov	13:28
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Expose the vhost_name parameter on openstack_project::nodepool https://review.openstack.org/129876	13:34
fungi	rcarrillocruz: ^	13:35
fungi	i'll check that it's working in a few minutes	13:35
rcarrillocruz	thx :-)	13:35
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rcarrillocruz	i'm bringing up a cloud instance with vagrant to test the two nodepool changes that got merged, the vhost_name exposure in outer class and the the absolute paths for nodepool templates	13:41
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rcarrillocruz	worked for me in VB yesterday	13:41
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fungi	unrelated, but puppet agent when run from the master against nodepool.o.o is complaining about failures for managing pretty much all service resources. when i puppet agent --test locally on the nodepool server though, it works fine	13:50
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fungi	not sure what's up with that	13:50
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rcarrillocruz	you use puppetmaster then? i thought you did git clone + puppet apply in a cron or something	13:53
fungi	the puppetmaster runs a set of ansible playbooks which, among other things, ssh into each server and run puppet agent --test	13:56
fungi	ansible on the puppet master is in turn run from cron	13:56
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mtreinish	BobBall: heh, well the change will hopefully land today. I've been fighting the same kind of issues for the past 2 weeks and I'm anxious to finally have it land :)	14:00
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rcarrillocruz	fungi: vagrant up just finished with puppet apply on latest system-config state and it works fine	14:03
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rcarrillocruz	non-openstack.org vhost is created and /etc/nodepool.yaml contains the same stuff from an arbitrary location	14:04
rcarrillocruz	so looks like the puppet agent from master is indeed unrelated to my change	14:04
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fungi	rcarrillocruz: yeah, i was seeing it before your change, and before the other recent changes to the vhost configuration we merged yesterday for that matter	14:06
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rcarrillocruz	quite happy now, my goal of having a full openstack infra farm at home with vagrant openstack plugin continues. Those two changes allow me to put my own conf in site.pp and puppet does its thing, without further tweaking...	14:10
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fungi	oh, that's nuts... okay so when i 'puppet apply --test' it uses a cached copy of the manifest. if i add --server puppetmaster.openstack.org i can recreate the errors	14:28
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fungi	/etc/puppet/puppet.conf has server=puppetmaster.openstack.org in its [main] section so you'd think it would be obeying that	14:29
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fungi	aha, something is broken with /tmp	14:30
clarkb	puppetboard indicates locks are missing	14:30
fungi	yep	14:31
clarkb	and they go in /tmp	14:31
openstackgerrit	Dmitry Teselkin proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Change sequence on actions in updateConfig https://review.openstack.org/130811	14:31
fungi	31997 inodes in /tmp	14:31
fungi	i think puppet is timing out trying to interact with it	14:32
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fungi	it's full of /tmp/profiledir.<random> subdirectories containing ccache files	14:32
fungi	is this cruft from dib failures?	14:33
fungi	oh, no, these are actually dib elements	14:33
fungi	for centos7 builds	14:33
fungi	anyway, i'll clean it up first and then we can investigate under slightly less broken conditions	14:33
clarkb	sounds good	14:34
clarkb	probably more reason to override tmpdir	14:35
clarkb	yesterdays dib release should have that fix and my multiple image outputs change	14:36
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fungi	129749 would probably be good to approve	14:41
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wenlock	fungi , looks like puppetboard looking better today.... only /etc/nodepool/scripts issue with jenkins_dev.pp	14:44
fungi	wenlock: yeah, i think i've just finished beating nodepool back into shape too	14:45
mrmartin	re	14:45
fungi	confirmed. all better now that /tmp isn't a wreck	14:45
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mrmartin	fungi: could we push this through somehow today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129610/ ? It is required for groups portal update deployment.	14:48
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fungi	SergeyLukjanov: did you mean to +2 https://review.openstack.org/129610 or did you only +1 for a specific reason?	14:49
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clarkb	I am reviewing it really quickly	14:50
mordred	fungi: he +1'd just to thwart you	14:50
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fungi	mordred: yep, i bet that's it. totally his style ;)	14:50
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mordred	:)	14:51
clarkb	looks like the magic is in drushrc	14:51
mrmartin	:)	14:52
fungi	also finishing reviewing 129748 so that we can maybe have it up on ci.o.o before 16:00	14:52
clarkb	approved	14:52
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Fix kprop cron https://review.openstack.org/129749	14:52
mordred	anybody have the link to the paste with the sqlite instructions for updating config to system-config in gertty?	14:52
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fungi	mordred: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-October/002012.html	14:53
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mordred	fungi: thanks	14:53
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: give install_modules options for loading requirements externally https://review.openstack.org/117892	14:56
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clarkb	so many party invites. hard to commit to stuff when location is paris	14:58
fungi	indeed	14:59
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade groups portal instances to use manifest based deployment https://review.openstack.org/129610	15:00
mtreinish	clarkb: heh, yeah	15:00
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fungi	brb... rebooting my shell server for a new kernel	15:07
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SergeyLukjanov	fungi, I've just seen the drupal in patches and so, no +2 on it ;)	15:17
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clarkb	I think fungi must've found a bad kernel	15:18
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clarkb	so ya latest dib release has the two fixes we need	15:19
clarkb	which means I wont be spinning my tires to work on nodepool dib again	15:19
* clarkb spins up a VM to do some testing of TMPDIR thing		15:20
jeblair	morning	15:21
mtreinish	clarkb: he's not running arch is he?	15:21
mtreinish	they pushed out 3.17 which moved ucode into a separate package which needs to be loaded by the bootloader before the kernel	15:21
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mtreinish	and of course it didn't work, which was a nice present for me this morning	15:21
jeblair	i'd be really surprised if he wasn't running debian	15:21
clarkb	ya I think debian	15:22
mtreinish	jeblair: oh, yeah that's probably right	15:22
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clarkb	ianw indicated he would poke at the label thing we ran into. which is probably going to touch similar code to me support multiple output image formats change. and I need to upgrade nodepool.o.o to trusty	15:25
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annegentle	whats the link on launchpad for all the blueprints for a particular release?	15:32
mordred	will anyone be offended if I send an email to the mailing list suggesting we stop the insanity of non-standard port usage?	15:32
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annegentle	mordred: it was suggested as a cross project topic iirc	15:35
mordred	annegentle: registering the ports with IANA was	15:35
annegentle	so is it only https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/juno and repeat for each project? Or is there a rollup?	15:36
mordred	annegentle: that's what made me think that what we should ACTUALLY discuss is not having weird ports	15:36
annegentle	mordred: ah that's it	15:36
mordred	annegentle: and yes, I believe it's per-project in launchpad	15:36
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openstackgerrit	Graham Hayes proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add stackforge/designate-msdnsagent project https://review.openstack.org/130819	15:51
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openstackgerrit	Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add the Neutron DVR job to the tempest experimental queue https://review.openstack.org/130835	15:52
armax	mtreinish, jogo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130835/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130655/	15:53
armax	^	15:53
armax	carl_baldwin: ^	15:53
carl_baldwin	armax: ack	15:54
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clarkb	I am back	15:57
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clarkb	TMPDIR dib building centos7 seems to be mostly working. Slow though as I had to recache everything	15:59
SergeyLukjanov	I'm not sleeping too :)	15:59
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clarkb	will test trusty and precise when centos7 is done	15:59
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SergeyLukjanov	clarkb, doeas afs session will be right now?	16:00
SergeyLukjanov	clarkb, or I'm wrong in tz calc? :)	16:00
jeblair	SergeyLukjanov: you are correct!	16:00
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SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, yay!	16:00
jeblair	still getting set up	16:00
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jeblair	so if folks want to connect to the asterisk server: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing	16:02
jeblair	i'm in conference room 6000	16:02
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SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, any recomendations on clients for mac?	16:03
clarkb	uh	16:04
jeblair	is jitsi java?	16:05
jeblair	maybe it runs on mac?	16:05
SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, yeah, it should, trying	16:05
anteaya	jitsi is java, yes	16:05
jeblair	https://jitsi.org/Main/Download	16:05
jeblair	ya	16:05
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jeblair	okay the demo is up	16:07
jeblair	you can telnet afstest.openstack.org 8888	16:07
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SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, connected	16:07
jeblair	mordred, nibalizer: ping	16:08
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SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, I have jitsi started, but I have a feeling that it's not working ;)	16:10
SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, just call sip:conference@pbx.openstack.org should work ?	16:11
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anteaya	the conference call is being recorded as an experiment	16:11
jeblair	SergeyLukjanov: try sip:6000@pbx.openstack.org	16:11
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Freeze mccabe's version for hacking https://review.openstack.org/130273	16:11
SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, nothing happens after pushing "call" button, heh	16:12
jeblair	i'm going to resstart the terminal broadcast	16:12
anteaya	SergeyLukjanov: are you on the call?	16:13
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SergeyLukjanov	anteaya, nope	16:13
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anteaya	its dimsum_	16:13
SergeyLukjanov	anteaya, I'll try to call-in	16:14
anteaya	kk	16:14
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dimsum_	hehehe, sorry folks	16:14
SergeyLukjanov	anteaya, looks like I'm in :)	16:14
anteaya	yay	16:15
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jeblair	everyone will need to rejoin the telnet broadcast	16:15
anteaya	so dimsum_ SergeyLukjanov please acknowledge you are aware we are recording the audio	16:15
dimsum_	ack	16:16
SergeyLukjanov	anteaya, ack	16:16
anteaya	thank you	16:16
anteaya	I see the root directory	16:17
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openstackgerrit	Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update jenkins string to detect failed jobs https://review.openstack.org/130847	16:22
flashgordon	mtreinish clarkb: make the elastic-recheck bot comment again ^	16:22
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flashgordon	locally tested the patch	16:22
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mtreinish	flashgordon: maybe it's time we finally got around to looking at triggering e-r on something besides gerrit comments	16:24
flashgordon	mtreinish: such as?	16:24
flashgordon	gearman ?	16:24
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mtreinish	yeah gearman, or iirc zmq was brought up at one point too.	16:25
flashgordon	mtreinish: yeah I would be happy to move away from the ssh stream	16:25
flashgordon	but in the mean time	16:25
* dimsum_ just wanted to see how the conf system works. thanks everyone, dropping off		16:26
anteaya	thanks dimsum_	16:26
mtreinish	flashgordon: yeah, I already gave it a +2	16:26
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flashgordon	mtreinish: thanks	16:28
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mordred	jeblair: pong	16:32
jeblair	doing afs demo	16:32
mordred	just joined	16:32
anteaya	mordred: please acknowledge that the audio is being recorded	16:32
mordred	anteaya: acknowledged	16:32
anteaya	thanks	16:32
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nibalizer	jeblair: pong	16:40
mordred	nibalizer: doing the afs walkthrough	16:40
anteaya	nibalizer: we are doing an afs runthrough	16:40
nibalizer	oh sweet	16:40
anteaya	nibalizer: we are recording audio, if you join the call	16:41
nibalizer	telnet afs.o.o:8888 ?	16:41
mordred	nibalizer: yah	16:41
anteaya	https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing	16:41
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nibalizer	what's the host?	16:45
nibalizer	im getting nothing on afs.openstack.org	16:45
mordred	nibalizer: you will	16:45
mordred	give it a minute - you won't see anything until jeblair changes something again	16:46
clarkb	telnet afstest.openstack.org 8888	16:46
mordred	nibalizer: the broadcast is a tail -f - so you don't get old state	16:46
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update jenkins string to detect failed jobs https://review.openstack.org/130847	16:47
nibalizer	[nibz@rita ~]$ telnet afs.openstack.org 8888	16:47
nibalizer	telnet: could not resolve afs.openstack.org/8888: Name or service not known	16:47
nibalizer	is what mean	16:48
jeblair	afstest	16:48
mordred	nibalizer: afstest.openstack.org	16:48
nibalizer	oh its afstest	16:48
nibalizer	ty	16:48
nibalizer	wooot	16:48
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SergeyLukjanov	could some one help me to create user in kerberos? :)	16:49
jeblair	nibalizer: are you ok with the audio being recorded?	16:50
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nibalizer	jeblair: sure	16:52
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nibalizer	im downloading the sip client now, will try to join in once its done	16:52
mordred	nibalizer: you can also dial in with your phone	16:52
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, could you help me create a user for myself in kerberos?	16:53
nibalizer	mordred: my phone is un-battery currently	16:53
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mordred	SergeyLukjanov: yes.	16:53
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: on kdc01.openstack.org as root, you want to run "kadmin.local"	16:54
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, I've been thinking that I could use kadmin.local on kdc.o.o, but I've been wrong ;)	16:54
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, under root user?	16:54
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: are you running it as root?	16:54
mordred	yes	16:54
SergeyLukjanov	bah	16:54
mordred	it's a root command because it's bypassing kerb auth and operating on the database locally - which is normally something you don't want to do :)	16:55
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SergeyLukjanov	mordred, yup, thx	16:58
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, just created user for myself	16:58
nibalizer	im on the phone!	16:58
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mordred	SergeyLukjanov: woot!	16:58
nibalizer	woo	16:58
anteaya	nibalizer: yay	16:58
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: taht means you shoudl be able to kinit from your laptop and it shoudl work	16:59
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, now going to break the af	16:59
SergeyLukjanov	afs*	16:59
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: although I've never used kerberos on a mac	16:59
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: :)	16:59
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, I've found afs client for mac, but I'm running 10.10 and it's not working on it :(	16:59
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, I'm now using the afstest.o.o :)	17:00
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openstackgerrit	Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update stevedore base version to 1.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/130857	17:00
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fungi	ahh, nuch better	17:05
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fungi	much too	17:05
anteaya	welcome back	17:05
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fungi	was (and still is) debian, yes	17:10
fungi	and yeah, turns out update-grub/grub-install did not dtrt when updating grub-pc from 2.00-22 to 2.02~beta2-15	17:10
jeblair	http://docs.openafs.org/UserGuide/HDRWQ59.html	17:10
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SergeyLukjanov	heh, klog result for me (after kinit) klog: unknown RPC error (-1765328160) Can't parse principal <slukjanov>	17:19
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: did you add slukjanov or slukjanov/admin when you kadmin.local'd ?	17:20
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, both of them	17:20
mordred	hrm	17:20
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: ah! you don't have a default realm set	17:21
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: so try "kinit slukjanov@OPENSTACK.ORG"	17:21
mordred	SergeyLukjanov: is this on afstest?	17:21
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, yup	17:22
mordred	HRM	17:22
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, still the same error	17:22
SergeyLukjanov	hrm	17:22
mordred	ok. I don't know why you'd be getting ... oh. hang on	17:22
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mordred	SergeyLukjanov: we may need jeblair for that	17:23
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, :)	17:23
SergeyLukjanov	mordred, okay, thx, I'll return back later I hope ;(	17:25
nibalizer	jeblair: thanks!	17:27
fungi	and with that, i'm going to walk over to early voting at the town hall, and then across the street to the brewpub before returning	17:28
jeblair	no problem!	17:28
fungi	excellent demo, thanks!	17:28
SergeyLukjanov	jeblair, thx!	17:28
clarkb	fungi: you don't have to brewpub before voting?	17:28
anteaya	fungi: happy voting!	17:28
clarkb	that reminds me though I have a ballot too and will be in paris so should get that done	17:28
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anteaya	so I will send the full audio recording and an edited version (I'll cut to where we began shortly before the 'clear' sync) to the location of your choice	17:29
clarkb	mordred: fyi I helped greghaynes release dib yesterday so now we have tmpdir fix and multi outputs (not sure if you saw earlier)	17:29
anteaya	jitsi recorded mp3	17:29
clarkb	mordred: both appaer to work for centos7, trusty and currently checking precise	17:29
anteaya	do share where you want them sent and also if you want a different file type	17:30
clarkb	mordred: this is good news because it basically means we can go back to trying to dib this stuff	17:30
jeblair	anteaya: how do you feel about installing the afs client on your machine? :)	17:30
fungi	clarkb: brewpub it to help me forget the experience ;)	17:30
fungi	er, is	17:30
clarkb	jeblair++	17:30
anteaya	jeblair: comfy	17:30
anteaya	what file type do you want?	17:31
mordred	clarkb: woot!	17:31
clarkb	I am a fan of flac but if source format is mp3 it doesn't really matter	17:31
clarkb	maybe ogg vorbis for openness?	17:32
anteaya	I can get handbrake	17:33
anteaya	and audacity has multiple kinds of formats	17:33
nibalizer	:D did we just start using afs as a dropbox replacement <--- i think we did	17:34
jeblair	it's so much nicer :)	17:35
anteaya	am editing first, then will do the afs client install	17:36
anteaya	going to grab some lunch	17:36
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mordred	nibalizer: it's SO much nicer	17:39
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clarkb	jeblair: mordred fungi SergeyLukjanov so planning this replacement of nodepool.o.o on trusty. Going to use an 8GB node with the 80GB ephemeral disk mounted on /opt. We will want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127476/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130459/ before that so we can set the TMPDIR env var and move the cache dir into /opt	17:43
reed	jeblair, thanks, I learned another interesting trick http://amo-probos.org/post/17	17:43
clarkb	we can optionally set TMPDIR in nodepools init script and just do it globally	17:43
clarkb	but I think once we have those cahnges in we are ready to move to a trusty performance node. Process for doing that is going to be spin up new node, make sure nodepool is running on new node, stop nodepool on old node, manually clean up old nodepool nodes/images	17:44
jeblair	reed: yeah, we just tried that out along with an asterisk conf call; it worked pretty well	17:44
clarkb	any thoughts on how we/I can do that better?	17:44
jeblair	i'm going to see if we can make a recording out of it	17:44
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clarkb	hrm actually that second change may not do everything we want	17:47
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clarkb	I think we should just set that as an env var instead	17:47
clarkb	because that is one less change and doesn't muddy the config with various ways of doing similar things	17:47
* clarkb tests that now		17:47
openstackgerrit	Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack/requirements: New oslo library - oslo.concurrency https://review.openstack.org/130862	17:48
reed	it is pretty damn neat, I have to say :) while we wait for Firefox Hello	17:49
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clarkb	jeblair: mordred fungi SergeyLukjanov so I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127476/ is an important change for continued dibification work	17:55
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jeblair	clarkb: ack, can review in a couple hours	17:56
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mestery	fungi: I'm back with more questions (and time today) around merging master into the feature/lbaasv2 branch.	17:57
clarkb	mestery: fungi just stepped out but if youg go ahead and aks there are many of us here :)	17:57
mestery	clarkb: Thanks!	17:57
mestery	When I get to the "git review -R", I see something like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/124165/	17:57
mestery	Except there are about 100 commits there.	17:57
mestery	I just captured the ones at the top	17:58
mestery	So I'm hesitant to hit "yes"	17:58
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mestery	Does that look ok or did I do something wrong?	17:58
clarkb	mestery: is it properly proposing to feature/lbaasv2?	17:58
mestery	clarkb: I think so, I did this: "git review -R feature/lbaasv2"	17:58
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david-lyle	mestery if you pushing a merge review, yes is correct	17:59
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mestery	The merge commit is at the top.	17:59
mestery	david-lyle: So it won't push all those commits indivirually?	17:59
clarkb	looks like .gitreview is also correct	17:59
david-lyle	but you have to have merge commits enabled	17:59
* mestery clarkb: I'm following instructions from here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Merge_Commits		17:59
david-lyle	mestery not with -R	17:59
mestery	david-lyle: How can I verify if I have merge commits enabled?	17:59
david-lyle	that's how we managed our internal tree before	17:59
david-lyle	in the project settings in gerrit	18:00
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clarkb	ya I think they are enabled because we do that for feature branches	18:01
clarkb	but double check	18:01
mestery	clarkb: Pointers as to where I should be loooking?	18:01
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clarkb	mestery: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/neutron,access we start with neutron's acls	18:01
clarkb	and right at the top we see that neutron-milestone can push merge commits	18:02
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clarkb	so you should be set	18:02
mestery	clarkb: OK, so I can run the command and ignore all those other commits, safely knowing it will only push the merge commit? :)	18:03
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clarkb	mestery: I think so :) I believe that may just be git review being overly cautious	18:04
mestery	clarkb: OK, I'm going to try it and hope I don't flood the system with 100 commits. Wish me luck :P	18:04
clarkb	:)	18:04
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mestery	clarkb: It worked! Thanks for the help! david-lyle, you too, much appreciated!	18:05
david-lyle	mestery: sure, I've been through some very painful merges and seeing that message always scared me :)	18:06
mestery	clarkb: Does this look correct? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130864/	18:06
mestery	david-lyle: Ack :)	18:06
clarkb	mestery: ya. you will only see diffs there if there were merge conflicts	18:06
david-lyle	+1	18:06
jeblair	might want to change the commit message :)	18:07
mestery	clarkb: Cool! OK, now to find a core to merge this for me. Thanks again!	18:07
mestery	jeblair: Yes, let me do that and push a new rev.	18:07
clarkb	mestery: instead of showing you the diff between our proposed commit and the branch gerrit will show you the conflicts on old side and resolution on new side	18:07
clarkb	when it is a merge commit	18:07
mestery	clarkb: ack, cool!	18:07
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clarkb	you knwo we could just propose a change that depended on master to lbaasv2 and abuse that gerrit bug >_>	18:08
clarkb	(don't do that as its considered buggy behavior)	18:08
* jeblair gags clarkb		18:08
mestery	lol	18:08
* anteaya installs afsclient		18:08
jeblair	anteaya: i might have missed installing the 'krb5-user' packagefrom the install instructions	18:09
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anteaya	I am following this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129748/1/doc/source/afs.rst	18:10
anteaya	and yes I don't see that	18:10
anteaya	will install that too after this is finished building	18:10
jeblair	anteaya: you should also install that and -1 the patch :)	18:10
anteaya	kk	18:10
anteaya	:D	18:10
jeblair	anteaya: i think that provides kinit; you might double check that	18:11
anteaya	kk	18:11
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anteaya	default kerberos realm?	18:14
jeblair	anteaya: OPENSTACK.ORG	18:14
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clarkb	OPENSTACK.ORG	18:14
clarkb	jeblair wins	18:14
anteaya	thank you	18:14
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anteaya	I did man kinit before and after installing krb5-user, it comes with krb5-user, was not avaliable before I installed	18:15
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anteaya	added notes to the afs docs patch about needing the kerberos default realm documented	18:16
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* anteaya stirs the soup		18:16
jeblair	cool. you probably won't be using it in the near term, but i think it would be good to install it at the same time	18:16
anteaya	great	18:16
* anteaya tries cd /afs/openstack.org		18:17
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anteaya	http://paste.openstack.org/show/124176/	18:18
anteaya	not yet	18:18
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anteaya	http://paste.openstack.org/show/124177/	18:18
anteaya	so the /afs dir is there	18:18
anteaya	but only has . and .. as content	18:19
anteaya	not sure what to do next	18:19
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* clarkb gives it a go		18:20
anteaya	my next move is eat my soup	18:21
anteaya	back in a few	18:21
anteaya	this is what I did: http://paste.openstack.org/show/124178/	18:22
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jeblair	anteaya: oh i think you may need to run: /etc/init.d/openafs-client start	18:22
jeblair	(should start automatically on next boot, but i don't think it starts automatically right after install)	18:23
mtreinish	oh, wow the afs packages on arch are in the aur, there aren't any in the main repos...	18:23
jeblair	mtreinish: opportunity for you? :)	18:24
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add tests for properties inject https://review.openstack.org/129502	18:24
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clarkb	jeblair: anteaya yup starting the service fixed it for me	18:25
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for "Override Build Parameters" option in EnvInject https://review.openstack.org/129189	18:25
anteaya	ah	18:26
* anteaya starts the service		18:26
clarkb	I don't see mirror/pypi thoug	18:26
anteaya	woot	18:26
clarkb	(I was semi interested in that for "local" mirror purposes	18:26
clarkb	guessing its a perms thing	18:27
jeblair	clarkb: /afs/openstack.org/mirror/pypi/ ?	18:27
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added flexible publish support https://review.openstack.org/127300	18:27
clarkb	jeblair: ya	18:27
anteaya	this is what i see: http://paste.openstack.org/show/124191/	18:27
clarkb	/afs/openstack.org/mirror is emtpy	18:27
morganfainberg	oooh AFS?!	18:28
* morganfainberg is excited to see this stuff.		18:28
jeblair	mtreinish: yep. we have an openstack.org cell. :)	18:28
jeblair	morganfainberg: ^	18:28
jeblair	sorry	18:28
mtreinish	jeblair: heh, well I voted to graduate the aur package to the official repos we'll see if that ever happens...	18:28
morganfainberg	jeblair, wooooooot	18:28
mtreinish	for now I have to build it	18:28
morganfainberg	jeblair, :)	18:28
jeblair	clarkb: fs examine /afs/openstack.org/mirror/ ?	18:29
clarkb	it says mirror.readonly maybe you need to sync RW to RO	18:29
jeblair	anteaya: ^	18:29
anteaya	I see: http://paste.openstack.org/show/124195/ from fs examine	18:29
jeblair	ah yep, that's probably it	18:30
clarkb	building images with cold caches is so slow	18:30
clarkb	but I am doing it in the name of testing DIB_IMAGE_CACHE	18:31
clarkb	and it seems to work so that is good	18:31
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jeblair	anteaya, clarkb: vos release done, should be good	18:33
jeblair	(i think my client was on the read-write path from some earlier mountpoint configurations)	18:33
jeblair	(so i didn't notice the ro volume was out of date)	18:33
clarkb	there it is	18:33
clarkb	thanks	18:33
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anteaya	I can see mirror/pypi and mirror/.pypi	18:34
anteaya	thanks	18:34
anteaya	so what do I have to do to upload?	18:34
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jeblair	anteaya: you should be able to copy it into /afs/openstack.org/user/anteaya	18:36
* anteaya tries this		18:36
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anteaya	http://paste.openstack.org/show/124201/	18:38
clarkb	so I tried ls'ing in mirror/pypi/simple	18:38
clarkb	that was not happy :)	18:38
anteaya	it is a big file	18:38
clarkb	you must build additional pylons (looks like jeblair or mordred need to bump quota on that volume)	18:38
anteaya	and I was going to copy the source as well as mp3 ogg and flacc files of the edited version	18:38
jeblair	anteaya: quota bumped	18:39
* anteaya tries again		18:39
anteaya	cursor hasn't returned yet	18:40
jeblair	anteaya: that probably means it's working :)	18:41
anteaya	I'm taking it that way, yes :D	18:42
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anteaya	takes a while	18:42
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jeblair	yep, seems to be chugging along though	18:43
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anteaya	good, can you see it from your end?	18:48
jeblair	-rw-rw-r-- 1 32766 mordred 37003754 Oct 24 18:39 afs_sip_call_October24_2014.ogg	18:49
jeblair	yep	18:49
jeblair	anteaya: all done on your side?	18:49
anteaya	yes	18:50
anteaya	flacc next?	18:50
jeblair	anteaya: what was the original?	18:50
anteaya	an mp3	18:50
anteaya	I can send the original across next	18:51
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jeblair	anteaya: yeah, just do the mp3, let's not worry about flac right now	18:51
anteaya	kk	18:51
anteaya	copying	18:51
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openstackgerrit	Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Remove unnecessary variable assignment https://review.openstack.org/130873	18:54
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clarkb	ok its noon and my override of DIB_IMAGE_CACHE build just finished and seems happy	19:00
clarkb	I think we have all the features we need in DIB now	19:00
anteaya	yay	19:01
clarkb	progress!	19:01
clarkb	so that definitely puts the focus back on nodepool. I am going to try writing up a test case for the label weirdness we had earlier	19:01
clarkb	and start there with the fix	19:01
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anteaya	done	19:21
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anteaya	jeblair: anything else you want copied?	19:22
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anteaya	clarkb: can you see any files in user/anteaya?	19:22
anteaya	or I guess they need to be released first	19:23
clarkb	yes I see them	19:23
anteaya	oh awesome	19:23
anteaya	if you hear any noises in the edited version that you think I can remove let me know and a close timestamp to where it is	19:24
anteaya	and i can re-edit	19:24
anteaya	clarkb: can you download them or open and listen to them?	19:24
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jeblair	anteaya: nope that should do it. and it's a read/write volume, so no vos release necessary.	19:25
jeblair	i'm going to remove the world-write acl now :)	19:25
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anteaya	ah	19:26
anteaya	so I won't be able to upload anything more without you changing the acl, correct?	19:27
jeblair	anteaya: yep. if we want to do more of this sort of thing, we'll create a principal for you so you can have authenticated write access	19:28
jeblair	but i think it's a bit early for that right now	19:28
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anteaya	fair enough	19:30
anteaya	let's see how this works	19:30
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openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Send environment vars to diskimage-builder per image https://review.openstack.org/127476	19:51
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fungi	awesome. i've voted, done my civic duty at the pub, and caught up on scrollback	19:54
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anteaya	glad you do right by the pub	19:57
anteaya	been walking 20km a day and successfully gave myself an overuse injury!	19:57
anteaya	cutting back to 4 for a bit	19:58
openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	19:58
clarkb	that ^ will be WIPed but is the general idea of the thing that is expected t owork	19:58
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hashar	jeblair: hello! I had a Zuul patch failing on box used for python2.6. I found the root cause was due to the old git version and found an acceptable workaround :-D	20:00
hashar	jeblair: so you can keep python2.6 for zuul!	20:00
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openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	20:08
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openstackgerrit	Michael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support additional events for HipChat plugin https://review.openstack.org/129760	20:10
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openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	20:17
clarkb	(it is failing now which is whta I awnt just not failing in quite the right way)	20:18
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clarkb	gah ok writing this test isn't as simple as I thought. THe fake overrides override enough behavior to have this almost work when it shouldn't	20:25
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clarkb	I may need to look at actually fixing this as part of the make test for case too	20:26
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jeblair	hashar: thanks, though i think we are ready to drop python2.6 in most other projects so we might as well in zuul too	20:27
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openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	20:30
clarkb	I think hat will acutally work	20:30
clarkb	when it should fail	20:30
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clarkb	oh good looks like it failed	20:33
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openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	20:39
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hashar	jeblair: as far as Wikimedia is concerned, you can drop python2.6 :]	20:46
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jeblair	hashar: cool, i expect we will then	20:48
hashar	jeblair: and if you move to python 3.4 we can get rid of select.poll (which does not work on mac os x) in favor of python3.4 selectors https://docs.python.org/3.4/library/selectors.html :D	20:49
jeblair	oh neat	20:49
hashar	found that while I wanted to write a thin wrapper around .select() and .poll()	20:50
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openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	21:06
clarkb	I think that is getting closer to what we want but the error checking needs to be more robust	21:07
hashar	good week-end!	21:09
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openstackgerrit	Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Test label with snapshot and dib images https://review.openstack.org/130878	21:30
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clarkb	in other news we are trying to do an openstack ish happy hour at Pints this afternoon. If you are in the portland area drop by. http://calagator.org/events/1250467213	21:34
anteaya	clarkb: cool	21:36
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anteaya	happy happy hour	21:36
clarkb	I don't see dansmith	21:36
clarkb	was going to ping dan oh well	21:36
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fungi	clarkb: you want to ping superdan	21:37
superdan	clarkb: ah, thanks	21:38
fungi	i figured he'd be either that or damnsith again	21:38
superdan	clarkb: I'm sans vehicular transport today, so I'll have to pass	21:38
clarkb	superdan: but its easily accessible by trimet :P	21:38
superdan	clarkb: but my place is not :)	21:38
clarkb	though you live out in the empty western wastelands	21:38
superdan	clarkb: I moved	21:38
clarkb	oh where are you now?	21:39
superdan	happy valley	21:39
superdan	east side	21:39
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fungi	"dan of the western wastes" has a much more ominous sound to it than "dan of the happy valley"	21:39
clarkb	the empty eastern wastelands	21:39
superdan	fungi: hah	21:39
clarkb	I am over by UP which is surprisingly well served by trimet	21:39
superdan	I dunno what UP is	21:39
clarkb	particularly on friday nights (gotta cater to them college students)	21:39
clarkb	university of portland	21:40
superdan	oh	21:40
anteaya	clarkb: you are over UP?	21:40
superdan	gotcha	21:40
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fungi	(not to be confused with the upper peninsula, nor the union pacific railroad)	21:40
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jeblair	clarkb, zaro: ping	21:41
clarkb	pong	21:42
jeblair	clarkb: is there anything else you can elaborate on about the infra gating session you proposed?	21:42
jeblair	zaro: what do you think we might discuss in a session on upgrading gerrit?	21:43
jeblair	https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-infrastructure-summit-topics	21:43
clarkb	I think you distilled the general topic better than my initial text. To expand a bit there is clear motivation to "just reconfigure the gate". The various parties suggesting this see that as a social change not a technical one. I think it is a very technical change and we need to make sure we do it right	21:44
jeblair	clarkb: i might see it more as a social one than a technical one :)	21:44
clarkb	so criteria on what project interaces would require cogating. how we discover and enforce that over time. how do we add new projects. how do we document it sothat $random developer understands why that thing over there failed this particular change	21:45
clarkb	jeblair: it is a social change too	21:45
clarkb	but a lot of the back and forth that has gone around on this seems to just assume we can change it inzuul and not think about it	21:45
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mtreinish	clarkb: I wasn't aware there was a push to cogate projects individual. I thought the push was more to have more testing in each project	21:46
clarkb	mtreinish: there is mass push to stop cogating the world	21:46
clarkb	mtreinish: and only say gate nova and ironic on each other	21:46
jeblair	clarkb: yeah, i think in the email we came up with from darmstadt we had a fairly good process	21:46
fungi	so basically implications of "technical implications of big tent/layers gating shakeup discussions"	21:46
clarkb	and what we need to figure out is what those partitions are	21:46
jeblair	clarkb: the thing you just said is a radical misunderstanding of how gating works :(	21:46
* fungi has extra implications apparently		21:46
clarkb	jeblair: yes and it is pervasive	21:47
clarkb	jeblair: and people think we are doing it	21:47
jeblair	clarkb: who thinks that and why?	21:47
jeblair	nothing has been approved or decided yet :)	21:47
clarkb	devananda is one	21:47
jeblair	devananda: ping	21:47
clarkb	no but attitudes on ml threads and on irc is we must do this now!	21:47
jeblair	clarkb: i'm not sure i see this quite the same way you do	21:48
devananda	pong	21:48
jeblair	clarkb: i also suspect that very different things are being meant by "cogating"	21:48
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jeblair	i think there are two variable we can change:	21:48
armax	any kind soul out that that can throw us a bone here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130835/ :)	21:48
armax	*there	21:49
devananda	jeblair: in a meeting right now, but tldr http://i.imgur.com/odqbSC0.png -- I think projects should cogate with integration (not functional) tests along those lines	21:49
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clarkb	also zane bitter is another	21:50
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jeblair	there is the set of projects that share a change queue	21:50
armax	fungi: much obliged	21:50
fungi	armax: since it's okay with mtreinish it's okay by me	21:50
jeblair	and there are which projects are exercised in integration tests	21:50
anteaya	fungi beat me to it	21:50
armax	fungi: I’ll bear it mind :)	21:50
jeblair	specifically, i think the thing we can do is to be sensible about which projects we exercise in certain jobs	21:50
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devananda	jeblair: ++	21:51
jeblair	eg, there can be a job that exercises nova and ironic. if we run that job on changes to both ironic and nova, then we co-gate them	21:51
devananda	exactly. but taht job doesn't need to run on a change to glance	21:52
clarkb	jeblair: so going back to the thing I put on the etherpad	21:52
jeblair	yep	21:52
devananda	so it is a "nova-ironic integration test" job	21:52
clarkb	we need to figure out what those jobs need to be and we need to do so in a not ad hoc fashion	21:52
jeblair	if we run it only on one of them, eg, ironic, then it's a one-way gate, and we are accepting the risk that if we break it, we are either missing api/functional testing in one of the projects	21:52
fungi	holy crap x3-class solar flare picked up by orbital sats 5 minutes ago	21:52
clarkb	also I think you will find that many people arguing for this stuff want to ditch the big integration test for that small test	21:52
jeblair	or that we should actually be co-gating them	21:53
clarkb	fungi: didn't we have one like that a couple weeks ago? I seem to remember looking for northern lights	21:53
clarkb	oh and marun	21:53
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jeblair	clarkb: i think we can do that in a lot of places, but i think there is strong support for an integration test that covers the layer 1 projects	21:53
clarkb	jeblair: huh ok	21:54
clarkb	jeblair: my interpretation was that very few people wanted that with the smaller tests	21:54
devananda	jeblair: yep. because those projects don't function in isolation	21:54
clarkb	devananda: ^ iirc you are one of them	21:54
anteaya	what is red hat openstack certifications mean, I wonder: http://www.openstack.org/blog/2014/10/openstack-trainings-and-certifications-available-in-paris/	21:54
devananda	to do a "nova ironic integration test" we need to start keystone, glance, neutron -- but we dont need to RUn those tests	21:55
jeblair	clarkb: as long as they are tightly coupled behind the scenes, so to speak, i think it's necessary. also, many of them can't actually have functional tests without running the others. :)	21:55
anteaya	fungi: how soon until it hits?	21:55
clarkb	devananda: you would still do the layer 1 test	21:55
clarkb	devananda: which runs tests across all of layer 1	21:55
clarkb	devananda: you disagree with doing that	21:55
clarkb	jeblair: says do that	21:55
jeblair	anteaya: couple hours?	21:55
devananda	clarkb: i would call taht a "nova keystone neutron glance integratino test"	21:55
anteaya	jeblair: kk	21:55
devananda	and then I would suspect that each of those four projects would choose to gate on taht test	21:55
clarkb	I proposed topic that says "we need to talk about this because everyone is talking past each other and pretending we can just pull partitions out of a hat"	21:56
fungi	anteaya: well, the x rays hit within minutes, though the resultant proton storms can take days to get here since they travel well below the speed of light	21:56
jeblair	the other aspect of this is to remember that co-gating relationships are transitive, so nova, glance, ironic, etc _will_ share the shame change queue. that doesn't mean that ironic will fail because of a glance change, but it will mean that ironic will potentially be tested behind a glance change	21:58
clarkb	jeblair: yup	21:58
clarkb	but it does mean that glance can reset ironic tests	21:58
jeblair	yep	21:58
devananda	sure	21:59
jeblair	i think that's something to keep in mind with big-tent discussions -- we can't scale out cogating pairs infinitely, but i don't think it's the major pain point	21:59
jeblair	and in fact, most of the rest of what we've been talking about is also designed to reduce the pain of having a shared queue	21:59
anteaya	fungi: mmmm, x-rays	22:00
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Add the Neutron DVR job to the tempest experimental queue https://review.openstack.org/130835	22:00
anteaya	glad my 9th chakra is protecting me	22:00
clarkb	also I think many of those involved in these discussions don't fully grasp some of the design decisions in zuul	22:00
clarkb	and why we might want to stick with that behavior	22:00
jeblair	clarkb: i don't think we're going to end up throwing out the integrated gate. i'm sure we're not all grasping what we're all saying, but i think most of us are pretty close to the same page	22:01
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clarkb	so anyways, the suggested topic was aimed at reducing confusion and thinking about some concrete things we can do for gating from a technical standpoint	22:01
jeblair	clarkb: there is a proposed cross-project functional test session, that looks like it may have enough support to be approved	22:02
anteaya	I think there is enough change in the area to warrent a space to discuss it at the summit	22:02
mtreinish	jeblair, clarkb: I don't understand the rationale for co-gating pairs. If the projects are communicating over stable interfaces there shouldn't be a need.	22:02
clarkb	functional testing to me isn't uper interesting really	22:02
clarkb	I think projects are way over thinking that stuff	22:02
clarkb	you run them like unittests but test functionality in a bubble	22:02
clarkb	very similar to how zuul/nodepool run tests	22:02
clarkb	not sure why that is a cross project concern	22:02
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jeblair	clarkb: read the email we sent out after darmstadt -- you agreed with it then :)	22:03
mtreinish	if there is a bug exposed in a consumed api that breaks someone else they should fix it and add a test in the project that broke	22:03
clarkb	jeblair: ya	22:03
jeblair	http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/041057.html	22:03
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jeblair	clarkb: i think this is needed to help push the idea out to the projects and have them know and agree how to do it similarly	22:03
mtreinish	sean's contract test thing	22:03
clarkb	jeblair: gotcha	22:04
jeblair	mtreinish: yep. i think co-gating is useful for very tightly coupled projects	22:04
jeblair	mtreinish: the more losely coupled (and stronger the api versioning/compatability) the less it's needed	22:04
fungi	yeah, i think the cross-project component is how to get the projects to engineer their functional testing consistently and using similar frameworks/tools, less that the tests themselves are especially cross-project	22:04
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jeblair	fungi: ++	22:04
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mtreinish	fungi: I'm drafting a ML post on how I think tempest-lib could be used to do that	22:05
mtreinish	since flashgordon keeps bugging me about it :)	22:05
flashgordon	mtreinish: consider your self bugged again	22:06
clarkb	mtreinish: so I actually think tmepest lib shouldn't be used at all :P	22:06
fungi	mtreinish: that's basically the example i was thinking of when i said that	22:06
clarkb	mtreinish: but I care less about how the tests run and that they are running	22:06
jeblair	google search:"paris design summit schedule" autocompletes with:"d 1960 collapsed because"	22:06
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clarkb	mtreinish: mostly becase you can do function testing from within the project itself super easily	22:07
anteaya	things get discussed in paris	22:07
fungi	1960 us-soviet summit meeting collapse!	22:07
clarkb	mtreinish: you don't need a separate library designed for black box testing to do internal functional white box testing	22:07
clarkb	but I will be happy with any functional testing so /me gets out of the way	22:07
flashgordon	jeblair: btw have you seen this thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048868.html	22:07
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fungi	clarkb: well, i think white box and black box are separate concerns, and chances are black box is easier to reason about initially	22:08
mtreinish	clarkb: yes I agree with that, the reason I was suggesting using tempest-lib as a start is because there are arguably functional tests in tempest which shouldn't be there	22:08
clarkb	fungi: but we already have that testing today	22:08
flashgordon	clarkb: I think starting with tempestlib is good because we can jump start the functional testing stuff quickly	22:08
clarkb	in tempest	22:08
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mtreinish	so an easy win would be to just copy them out into the projects	22:08
clarkb	its redundant	22:08
clarkb	oh I see so remove redundancy by pushing those tests down into projects	22:09
fungi	clarkb: yep, but then all those tests need to live in the tempest project unless you break it up	22:09
fungi	right, what mtreinish said	22:09
jeblair	flashgordon: no, thanks. wow that's so redundant from the darmstadt meetup and august email.	22:09
flashgordon	jeblair: I was hoping you would bite :/ I'll just include a link to that email	22:09
mtreinish	clarkb: yep, it'll be a good starting point and then whitebox testing can grow once functional jobs are setup	22:09
jeblair	flashgordon: responding now.	22:09
flashgordon	jeblair: thanks :)	22:10
mordred	speaking of whitebox testing - we should start running swift's probe tests at some point	22:11
mordred	since that's what they are	22:11
fungi	yeah, i hadn't gotten to replying on that yet	22:11
fungi	on that thread yet	22:11
flashgordon	jeblair: even ttx chimed on on the thread	22:12
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jeblair	flashgordon: thanks for pointing me at that	22:19
jeblair	also, it would be great if folks used the [infra] tag.	22:19
jeblair	i'm about ready to make a serious proposal to split the lists up.	22:19
fungi	also, andrea was there for the mid-cycle wasn't he?	22:20
jeblair	because -dev is completely useless to me at this point	22:20
anteaya	fungi: which andrea?	22:20
fungi	f	22:20
mtreinish	jeblair: yes he was	22:20
anteaya	the one with red hair	22:20
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* fungi nods		22:20
jeblair	he wasn't the thread originator	22:20
anteaya	op is from neutron I do believe	22:20
jeblair	i just responded to him because he had the most concice thing to respond to	22:21
fungi	right, though he missed an opportunity to explain it in terms of the mid-cycle discussions	22:21
anteaya	jeblair: I look forward to your proposal to split the lists up	22:21
flashgordon	jeblair: I do blacklist filtering to make the list more manageable	22:21
jeblair	i didn't really mean _he_ should read the email when i said "you", i meant _everyone_ :)	22:21
jeblair	flashgordon: how so?	22:21
fungi	indeed	22:21
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack/requirements: New oslo library - oslo.concurrency https://review.openstack.org/130862	22:21
openstackgerrit	A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Update python-ldap version for Keystone https://review.openstack.org/128817	22:21
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flashgordon	jeblair: in gmail to:(openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,) subject:(([Solum] OR [Savanna] OR [Horizon] OR [Heat] OR [Glance] OR [Swift] OR [Murano]))	22:22
flashgordon	Do this: Mark as read	22:22
jeblair	flashgordon: does that mean you miss "[nova][solum]" ?	22:22
flashgordon	jeblair: yes, but I am ok with that	22:22
jeblair	flashgordon: hehe :)	22:23
flashgordon	and they get marked as read so I still have them around	22:23
jeblair	ya	22:23
mtreinish	flashgordon: I do the same kinda thing but with subdirs, and then there is a bucket where things like fuel threads end up and are all marked as read	22:24
mordred	jeblair: I'm close to seriously suggesting that we move to nntp	22:24
mordred	jeblair: not beacuse it will make that better - but maybe it'll exclude more people and there will be less volume overall	22:24
mtreinish	flashgordon: and do the sorting in prioritory order so I'd see something like [qa][solum] because qa gets checked before solum	22:25
mtreinish	mordred: I'd support that :)	22:25
fungi	mordred: you still dream of ending the eternal september	22:25
jeblair	it's totally october now	22:25
fungi	granted, most of the internet has likely finally forgotten usenet exists	22:26
fungi	so yes, maybe it _is_ finally october	22:26
jeblair	would love nntp. but i also think that separate lists can work too. we can make it so that all subscriber to any openstack list are able to post to any other (without subscribing)	22:26
jeblair	so cross-posting would work just fine	22:26
jeblair	i think i did that already for openstack-infra and openstack-dev	22:26
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flashgordon	mtreinish: nice	22:27
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anteaya	we could just upload to the afs cell	22:28
jeblair	okay, so infra sessions: translation tools, infra-manual, afs, gating	22:28
jeblair	sound good?	22:28
fungi	wfm	22:28
fungi	you're just picking the ones i voted for	22:28
mtreinish	jeblair: btw, do you have 1 more session, because there is still 1 qa slot we were holding for the functional test stuff	22:29
jeblair	oh, and afs has an outcome too -- either a decision on how to use it, or a process for deciding that	22:29
fungi	cheater	22:29
mtreinish	but hopefully that'll be a cross project sesion	22:29
mtreinish	so then there's a free slot	22:29
fungi	mtreinish: does qa also only have 4 dedicated slots?	22:29
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mtreinish	we have 7	22:29
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fungi	oh, so we could have a loaner if we wanted	22:30
mtreinish	I forget what the metric is that decides the number of slots, but qa must have more of it	22:30
fungi	gating might also work as a qa topic...	22:30
jeblair	mtreinish: next on our list would be gerrit upgrade or storyboard; it's not clear that either of those _need_ a slot. i'm certain it would be nice to talk about them, but we are not in dire need of it	22:30
jeblair	fungi: yes, especially if it doesn't overlap with infra :)	22:31
fungi	none of the qa slots overlap with infra slots	22:31
mtreinish	jeblair: I checked I think qa and infra are mutually exclusive	22:31
jeblair	cool	22:31
fungi	i already checked (unless ttx moved them around, but i don't think he did)	22:31
fungi	so in theory, if qa or infra wanted to double up one of the paired slots for a more involved discussion topic, that would also be a possibility	22:32
jeblair	fungi: i don't think any on the infra short list need a double slot...	22:32
clarkb	I dont think gerrit upgrade needs session (we should just do it :) )	22:32
fungi	jeblair: yeah, none of them strike me as something we should burn two hours on	22:32
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jeblair	clarkb: yeah, i think if we did that, we'd talk about changes, how we need to test/announce it, scheduling, and whether we switch to CD at the same time. :)	22:33
mtreinish	fungi: there was a brief discussion about making http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/6d91b3205804c930c2a067b23e7aab76#.VErHcH96c-U or http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/9dbde26cced67b54d24176b746d3027e#.VErTOH96c-U double sessions	22:33
mtreinish	but 80min is a lot of time	22:33
clarkb	the short list sounda good to me	22:33
fungi	oh, also the infra session pairs both straddle lunch, so maybe not ideal anyway	22:34
flashgordon	when are you looking to schedule the gate session?	22:34
flashgordon	mtreinish: so I can see what in conflicts with in nova	22:34
fungi	er, actually thirsday isn't even back to back around lunch, there are sessions in between. so nevermind	22:34
flashgordon	sigh grenade and nova upgrades conflict	22:35
mtreinish	fungi: the open slot for qa right now is wed 14:40-15:20	22:35
flashgordon	nova makes life hard	22:35
mtreinish	which I think is right after an infra	22:35
fungi	mtreinish: yep, it is	22:35
flashgordon	yeah I can't make that one	22:36
flashgordon	nova CI status	22:36
jeblair	mtreinish: so if you end up with an empty slot and nothing for it, we can move gating to qa and then do a storyboard session	22:36
anteaya	what is nova CI status about?	22:36
mtreinish	jeblair: sure that works	22:36
jeblair	flashgordon: that sounds like something infra might not want to double book?	22:36
mtreinish	just get mikal to move it :)	22:36
flashgordon	jeblair: possibly	22:37
flashgordon	anteaya: nova 3rd party	22:37
mtreinish	like the nova functional testing session overlaps with qa	22:37
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flashgordon	anteaya: and things like libvirt testing	22:37
fungi	worst case we divide and conquer as usual	22:38
flashgordon	mtreinish: so IMHO the nova schedule is really strong this time (I am biased though) so there will be a conflict no matter what	22:38
anteaya	well sounds kinda like I should be there for that one	22:38
flashgordon	anteaya: couldn't hurt	22:38
clarkb	flashgordon is sounds like there are redundant sessions though	22:38
mordred	flashgordon: are any of the topics the one sdague wanted to do - "Infra tells Nova what's broken" ?	22:38
anteaya	are nova 3rd party folks going to attend the 3rd party discussion on the tuesday?	22:38
clarkb	there is a cross project and nova functional session?	22:38
clarkb	maybe we can squash those?	22:38
flashgordon	mordred: let me check	22:39
anteaya	I don't tend to see much nova representation at the weekly third party meeting	22:39
flashgordon	mordred: sean is doing functional nova testing	22:39
nibalizer	anteaya: so were you able to connect to the afs cell?	22:39
mtreinish	flashgordon: no there won't always be a conflict, like I don't care about a nfv session so that can easily overlap with qa	22:39
flashgordon	anteaya: we don't have a lot of third party CI systems	22:39
anteaya	nibalizer: yes	22:39
mtreinish	but functional testing probably shouldn't	22:39
anteaya	flashgordon: true	22:39
flashgordon	mtreinish: but I should care	22:39
nibalizer	is this the kind of thing i should be setting up?	22:39
anteaya	flashgordon: but you are having a summit discussion about it	22:40
nibalizer	are non-cores allowed kerb princs?	22:40
anteaya	flashgordon: and you should at least be aware of what expectations are from infra	22:40
flashgordon	anteaya: yes	22:40
clarkb	nibalizer right now no. but you can read only	22:40
anteaya	so would it not make sense to attend, or have someone attend?	22:40
nibalizer	clarkb: don't i need a non-admin principal to mount the readonly?	22:40
clarkb	nope	22:41
nibalizer	or can anonymous mount the readonly?	22:41
anteaya	nibalizer: correct	22:41
nibalizer	oh sweet	22:41
flashgordon	anteaya: clarkb I think gate and nova CI are somewhat different	22:41
flashgordon	or can be	22:41
anteaya	I see them as different	22:41
anteaya	and address them as different	22:41
flashgordon	jeblair: agreed	22:41
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clarkb	flashgordon yes. U am thinking functional sessions may be overlapping in scope	22:41
flashgordon	jeblair: ignore that ^	22:41
clarkb	s/U/I/	22:42
flashgordon	clarkb: maybe nova can switch that session with objects status	22:42
flashgordon	mtreinish: want to email mikal you can CC me if you would like	22:42
mtreinish	flashgordon: sure I can	22:43
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anteaya	flashgordon: and nova will be represented at the third party gerrit ci discussion, will it not?	22:43
flashgordon	clarkb: heh the 11AM Wednesday schedule is funny	22:43
anteaya	that is on the tuesday afternoon	22:43
jeblair	krotscheck: if things continue on current course, QA has an empty slot to share with us, so we have room for a storyboard session.	22:43
flashgordon	anteaya: not sure	22:43
anteaya	flashgordon: can you help me be sure?	22:44
krotscheck	jeblair: Alright.	22:44
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anteaya	flashgordon: I have asked and asked for someone from nova to make contact	22:44
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anteaya	no one has	22:44
anteaya	now nova is not problematic	22:44
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krotscheck	jeblair: To be honest, I’m not certain anymore whether I have enough content to fill 40 minutes.	22:44
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anteaya	but I don't want to carry on and then nova be surprised because noone showed up	22:44
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flashgordon	anteaya: mikal can find someone, I can help bother him if you would like	22:45
anteaya	please bother him	22:45
krotscheck	jeblair: But then I’ve been working on my lightning talk, and today has been all about paring things down to the salient points.	22:45
anteaya	with my thanks	22:45
flashgordon	anteaya: can you email him and CC me and I will follow up	22:45
anteaya	sure	22:45
flashgordon	anteaya: as i don't know the full context yet	22:45
krotscheck	Random aside: FFMPEG is WAY easier to use than premiere.	22:46
flashgordon	clarkb: 11AM - ironic functional testing, nova functional testing, tempest scope	22:46
krotscheck	Gif igure.	22:46
flashgordon	mtreinish: ^	22:46
mtreinish	flashgordon: yeah I noticed that	22:46
jeblair	krotscheck: i bet we can find something to bikeshed on. probably the best approach is to plan on 10-20 mins of presentation about storyboard and your pitch for people to help (there may or may not be anyone in the room with that ability), and then 20-30 mins of discussing where we go.	22:46
* fungi will bring a deck of paint samples		22:47
clarkb	flashgordon if intent of cross project functional session is put everyobe on the same page I think at very least it should come well before the other sessions for functional testing	22:47
flashgordon	clarkb: yeah	22:48
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flashgordon	scheduling is hard	22:48
mtreinish	clarkb: the cross project track is tuesday so that'll happen	22:48
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clarkb	oh I read what flashgordon said as it being tuesday for all	22:49
clarkb	but I see anteaya mentiomed tuesday on line below and I got confused	22:49
flashgordon	mtreinish: I was referring to Tempest scope in the brave new world	22:51
flashgordon	which sched.org has on wednesday	22:51
jeblair	clarkb: you wanted me to review a dib related change, but i lost it, sorry. do you happen to still have a link?	22:53
mtreinish	flashgordon: yep, I had noticed. I think if we could reschedule the nova session that'd be best. I can live with the ironic overlap...	22:53
clarkb	I think it may have merged. let me find it	22:53
fungi	clarkb: jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/127476	22:54
fungi	i approved it when i got back from lunch	22:54
clarkb	ty	22:54
fungi	fairly innocuous	22:54
flashgordon	mtreinish: yeah esp because sean is driving the nova one	22:54
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jeblair	ok cool. sorry. i'm just about caught up. to something. i don't know what.	22:56
clarkb	sean is summiting?	22:56
jeblair	yep	22:57
mtreinish	clarkb: he'll be online on Mon.	22:57
clarkb	awesome	22:57
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reed	summiting... new verb?	22:58
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fungi	conjugates like amo	22:59
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* reed tries to catch up with English words :)		22:59
reed	fungi, amo, like fishing hook or "I love" in Italian ? :)	23:00
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jeblair	QA/Infra: Gating relationships -- Discuss evolving needs of project gates. Criteria on what project interfaces need what kind of testing or gating. How to ensure that is kept up to date over time. What can be automated? How to document the result so that developers understand what is being tested, how, and when.	23:00
jeblair	mtreinish, clarkb: ^ my attempt to make a distilled description of the gating session	23:00
jeblair	mtreinish, clarkb: i added it to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-infrastructure-summit-topics	23:00
jeblair	mtreinish: for when you add it to sched	23:01
fungi	reed: latin joke. in rudimentary latin class the first thing we learned about verbs was how to conjugate the ones which ended like amo	23:01
mtreinish	jeblair: ok, thanks	23:01
reed	amo amas amat amamos amatis amant	23:02
jeblair	also, i prefixed all the infra topics in sched with "Infra: ..."	23:02
jeblair	because i think that helps in some sched.org interfaces	23:02
reed	largely made up... I studied latin 5 years and hated every page of it	23:02
fungi	reed: yep, 5 years here too. i've drank away all those brain cells in the ensuing decades	23:02
reed	cheers, to damaged brains	23:03
clarkb	jeblair ++	23:03
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fungi	lgtm	23:03
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jeblair	i'm going to be futzing with the pypi mirror mountpoints in afs	23:11
fungi	jeblair: mordred: any objection to me adding the new zuul mergers and afs/kerberos servers to the ansible hostfile and caching their ssh host keys on the puppetmaster?	23:12
nibalizer	my ls in /aft/openstack.org times out	23:12
* nibalizer blames conference wifi		23:12
jeblair	fungi: please do for the mergers, mordred was banking on the afs/krb servers not being in there while he finalized the modules...	23:12
fungi	jeblair: okay, sounds good	23:12
jeblair	fungi: i think he planned on fixing the hostfile so we went back to automatic inventory when complete	23:13
jeblair	er, fixing the whatever.	23:13
fungi	just making sure they were unreported on puppetboard for raisins	23:13
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mordred	yup. raisins are yummy	23:13
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fungi	i can also work on the zm01-04 replacements if nobody else is... i don't think we need the additional capacity at the moment	23:14
jeblair	fungi: oh, thanks. i am not working on them. it might be best to wait till the merge-chcek queue clears, then once it has done so, you can probably shut them all down and do all 4 at once.	23:17
fungi	yep, that was the plan	23:17
mtreinish	btw, would someone be able to help me and prioritize getting subunit2sql up next week. I'd really like to try and get it running before summit	23:18
jeblair	mtreinish: what state is it in / what do we need to do next?	23:18
mtreinish	jeblair: I've got 2 system-config patches up for the german workers and running migrations on the db	23:19
mtreinish	other than that it'll be about deploying a db instance	23:19
mtreinish	and getting the gearman workers started	23:19
mtreinish	I hope :)	23:20
jeblair	fungi, clarkb, mordred: i changed the mountpoints from this morning so there's only one pypi mountpoint now. i'm counting on the read-only and read-write preference of the cache manager to pick the right one	23:20
jeblair	/afs/openstack.org/mirror/pypi is read-only	23:20
jeblair	/afs/.openstack.org/mirror/pypi is read-write	23:20
mtreinish	I still don't have anything for a frontend/dashboard, but I figured work on getting the data collection first and we can work on that fater	23:21
jeblair	(the .openstack.org mount of root.cell in root.afs is a forced read-write mount, so once you are under there, the read-write path is preferred)	23:21
jeblair	(that way you don't have to double-mount everything)	23:21
fungi	cool beans	23:21
jeblair	mtreinish: i think i can spare some time to help out	23:21
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mtreinish	jeblair: cool, thanks	23:21
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mordred	jeblair: ossum	23:25
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jeblair	SergeyLukjanov, fungi: i see that you both have principals in kerberos	23:26
jeblair	SergeyLukjanov, fungi: but no user entries for those principals in the afs pts database	23:27
fungi	jeblair: i hadn't gotten that far yet	23:27
jeblair	from looking at the eavesdrop log, SergeyLukjanov said he could not 'klog'	23:27
jeblair	SergeyLukjanov: actually the command is 'aklog' (note the 'a')	23:27
fungi	i just added my princs and confirmed i could kinit/klist/kdestroy with either	23:28
jeblair	however, afs still would not have worked because of the missing pts entry for the slukjanov.admin user	23:28
fungi	this morning's unfortunate bootloader setbacks mean i didn't get as much of that tested yet as i'd have liked	23:29
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fungi	but hope to get back to it here in a bit	23:29
jeblair	fungi, SergeyLukjanov: i'll leave it to you to create your pts user entries then; let me know if you have questions or want me to do it	23:29
jeblair	should be covered in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129748/1/doc/source/afs.rst	23:30
fungi	jeblair: appreciated. i definitely intend to get it working myself, so don't expect to need help, but i'll let you know if i get confused	23:30
jeblair	fungi: what do you think about the uid move? do you think that can happen anytime soon?	23:31
jeblair	fungi: if not, i think maybe i should rework my puppet change to be more of a noop so that we can claim future uids in there and match them to afs	23:31
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fungi	jeblair: i can give it a shot here shortly. should be easy enough since as previously discussed we can just ignore file ownership outside of /home and assume everything in someone's homedir is owned by their user:group	23:33
fungi	since we're moving them all into an unclaimed range, ought to be simple	23:33
jeblair	fungi: ok cool, thanks	23:34
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jeblair	i've got bandersnatch running again, trying for a complete run	23:34
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