Friday, 2014-11-14

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fungianteaya: if you use exeunt then does that make you plural?00:09
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fungi(third-person plural present active indicative of exeō)00:12
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Split Token DB API into separate file  https://review.openstack.org/13440800:26
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: User token API  https://review.openstack.org/13440900:26
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ruhenow when openstack-ci moved from LP to StoryBoard, where should I file a ticket to populate new ACL group with initial member?01:05
ruhei don't see any suitable project :)01:05
fungiruhe: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133864/2/doc/source/stackforge.rst01:08
fungiruhe: though i can tale care of it now... which one?01:08
fungis/tale/take/01:08
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ruhefungi: hi! it should be this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133545/1/gerrit/acls/stackforge/yaql.config but i don't see it on groups list01:09
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ruheseems like acl config wasn't applied to gerrit?01:10
fungiruhe: looks that way. i'm checking logs now to see why01:11
ruhethank you01:11
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fungiruhe: no details as to why it broke, but rerunning the project management script seems to have applied the acl on the second pass01:13
fungiruhe: Ruslan Kamaldinov as the initial group member?01:13
ruheyes, that's me :) i'll add other developers and then remove myself from the group01:14
fungiruhe: i was pretty sure that was you. i've added you to the core and release groups for it now01:14
ruhethank you very much!01:14
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fungiyou're welcome01:15
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pleia2ok, off to catch my flight for real vacation now, see everyone next friday :)01:24
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable dib service for heat-dsvm-functional  https://review.openstack.org/13442201:34
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stevebakeram I right in thinking that the default ENABLED_SERVICES will be added to ^?01:35
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openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create congressmiddleware repo  https://review.openstack.org/13356702:44
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openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: remove duplicated acls file between congress and congressclient  https://review.openstack.org/13443002:46
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack-infra/puppet-httpd  https://review.openstack.org/12949603:09
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JayFIs all you have to do to make a job start "voting" in check pipeline is to change the branch designator from '-nv' to ''?03:37
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openstackgerritJay Faulkner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make agent_ssh check job voting for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/13443603:48
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openstackgerritJay Faulkner proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow IPA to be cloned and built  https://review.openstack.org/13443804:05
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Dynamically refresh events on task changes  https://review.openstack.org/12654206:50
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openstackgerritLukas Bednar proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: publishers: groovy-postbuild changes between 1.x & 2.x  https://review.openstack.org/13427607:18
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix python-saharaclient publish job  https://review.openstack.org/13392607:37
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AJaegerSergeyLukjanov: please review https://review.openstack.org/133926 again and consider removing your -208:02
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BharatKHello, I installed OpenStack using devstack08:07
BharatKWith default cinder backend08:07
BharatKwhich is LVM08:07
BharatKWhile running tempest test cases it is giving many errors like "Volume failed to bild and is in ERROR status"08:08
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SergeyLukjanovAJaeger, thanks for updating patch and sorry for the big latency from my side - I'm on vacation this and next week09:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add a project for OpenStack Security Advisories  https://review.openstack.org/13320209:11
ekarlsowhy is jenkins -1 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134389/ ?09:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Genericize static site publishing  https://review.openstack.org/13323709:16
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anteayafungi: well mordred sdague and I were exeunting together (or so I thought) so it was meant as a group exeunt yes09:34
anteayafungi: hope the meds worked, sorry to trigger the flashback09:35
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clarkbekarlso no oslo.log10:09
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clarkbekarlso likely bacause  it  doesnt exists or only exists as a prerelease10:09
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a project for OpenStack meetings descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/13448910:10
AJaegerSergeyLukjanov: enjoy your vacation!10:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Publish OSSA documents  https://review.openstack.org/13330110:24
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sdaguemorning folks11:00
reedttx, see my message to the dev list today, let me know if you think redirecting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:Programs is a bad idea11:02
reedhi sdague... already up?11:03
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ttxreed: not convinced that is an improvement to be honest. Now I need 3 clicks before I can get to the main page of a given program... and I need to parse a few confusing category pages to get there11:07
reedttx, why?11:08
ttxFor example I want to get to the main Nova page11:08
ttxBefore I would just click on nova11:08
ttxNow I click on Compute11:08
ttxand get to a list of categories and page11:08
reedoh, I see what you mean11:08
ttxwhere it's not clear at all where I should click on11:09
ttxso it feels like we are hiding the key page under layers of lists11:09
reedgot it, that's a different discussion than the one I had in mind11:09
reedso to isolate the issue, look at the Category:Teams page then11:10
ttxyep, looks better11:10
reedwhat I have in mind is a better way to keep summary pages more up to date11:10
reedok, I thought so...11:11
ttxNote that the canonical list of official programs should soon appear on governance.o.o, and would probably benefit from not being duplicated anymore11:11
openstackgerritRicardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Expose jenkins_ssh_public_key parameter in openstack_project::jenkins  https://review.openstack.org/13186111:11
ttxmaybe everything should appear udner Teams as far as wthe wiki is concerned11:11
reedso the issue you have with the Programs is the taxonomy11:11
reedthe taxonomy itself is a tree with the Program name first and then the branches, like the project nova and its team11:12
reedmaybe not needed to go that deep though ...11:12
reedI leave the programs bit outside since we're moving out of the wiki anyway11:12
reedso much happier that we're ditching it and put relevant content somewhere more ... .... more11:13
ttxI'll answer to your email after lunch11:13
reedjust more :)11:13
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reedttx, take your time... oh, lunch time11:13
ttxI think we should use the Teams taxonomy everywhere11:13
ttxas far as the wiki is concerned11:13
ttxand redirect people to the canonical list of programs if that's what they are after11:13
ttxrather than maintain them separately11:14
ttxbbl11:14
reedfor the logs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:Home shows the taxonomy tree as is now11:15
reed(including something that looks like a bug in mediawiki, where the translations of category pages are created as categories themselves... silly)11:16
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sdagueoh... rax mirrors, why do you need to be broken so often11:17
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/requirements: Require dnspython>=1.12.0  https://review.openstack.org/12635611:38
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/requirements: Add Werkzeug>=0.7 to global-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/13451512:30
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Promote check-grenade-dsvm-neutron to voting job  https://review.openstack.org/13453213:32
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/requirements: Add Werkzeug>=0.7 to global-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/13451513:37
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add test for globbed parameters feature  https://review.openstack.org/13188213:44
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pelixzaro: ^^^ I've made a few adjustments, let me know what you think13:47
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check requirements correctly  https://review.openstack.org/13424713:50
ttxreed: replied13:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix python-saharaclient publish job  https://review.openstack.org/13392613:59
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a project for OpenStack meetings descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/13448914:04
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openstackgerritThomas Järvstrand proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add logstash builder  https://review.openstack.org/13453714:06
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Include python-file using the real path  https://review.openstack.org/13455014:41
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reedttx, thanks. I agree with you, the taxonomy needs to be adapted to the new pages (infra manual and governance, among others)14:48
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openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Add standard puppet module files and .gitreview  https://review.openstack.org/13177114:51
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ddieterlyanyone here who can help me with pyodbc in the requirements.txt?15:16
ddieterlyi've tried stuff like --extra-index-url http://code.google.com/p/pyodbc/downloads/list --allow-external pyodbc15:16
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openstackgerritThomas Järvstrand proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add logstash builder  https://review.openstack.org/13456015:17
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BobBallI've forgotten - what do you use to store secrets?15:22
fungiddieterly: just a sec... testing a solution for you15:22
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fungiBobBall: who is "you" in this sense?15:22
BobBallthe offical CI15:22
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BobBallThat's the jiggerypoker! thanks.15:23
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fungiddieterly: 'pip install --allow-external pyodbc --allow-unverified pyodbc pyodbc' is how it would work from the command line with recent-ish versions of pip (tested myself with 1.5.4)15:24
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ddieterlyfungi: thanks, i'll give it a try15:25
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fungiddieterly: i seem to recall seeing a recipe for how you might encode that in a requirements.txt and am hunting for a reference now15:25
fungiddieterly: assuming that's what you actually need15:25
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ddieterlyyea, that's what i need15:26
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dtantsurHi folks! Is this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Deployed_to_a_repository related by default to stackforge project? I pushed a tag to ironic-discoverd, it got propagated to github mirror, but nothing else for now after 15 minutes15:30
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fungidtantsur: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ironic-discoverd shows that openstackci is not a package index maintainer so you'll need to fix that. also http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n4437 is missing any post pipeline jobs (tarball, upload, et cetera) which would do the work. you may want to add relevant project templates to the layout entry for your15:36
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dtantsurfungi, thanks! Is this written somewhere?15:37
fungiddieterly: passing this to pip install as a requirements file seems to have installed all three listed packages, including the pyodbc problem child http://paste.openstack.org/show/13317915:37
boris-42fungi: hi15:38
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boris-42fungi: could you please take a look patch that adds rally job to designate. It already has +1 from PTL and +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134392/15:38
boris-42fungi: thanks15:38
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fungidtantsur: no, at least it's not detailed at http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html#add-jenkins-jobs-to-stackforge-projects (possibly because it's nuanced enough that we're trying to avoid projects adding it even when they don't need it and then getting themselves in trouble)15:40
ddieterlyfungi: thanks, i'll try it15:40
dtantsurfungi, well, I'm not really against doing it manually, just wanted to clarify :) thank you15:40
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fungidtantsur: there are plenty of examples of projects in the layout.yaml there which are doing tagged release workflow15:41
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sdaguefungi: where is the log directory on the server generated?15:46
sdagueduring the devstack-gate run15:46
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fungisdague: inside the cleanup function i think, checking now15:46
sdaguebasically the target dir that it will upload to. I'd like to print out a fully qualified log url in the output stream so that it's easier to direct link when jobs are still in progress15:46
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fungisdague: oh! on the logs site you mean, not on the worker15:47
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sdaguefungi: yeh15:47
fungisdague: zuul passes that into the worker as a jenkins parameter and it's then available within the job as an envvar15:47
sdagueso it's a magic zuul var that we could see in d-g?15:47
fungisdague: yep15:48
fungiLOG_PATH i think. checking15:48
fungisdague: yep, that's it. for example see https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-cinder-python27/6798/parameters/15:50
fungisdague: the SWIFT_logs_URL envvar is also in there (odd capitalization though)15:51
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fungiddieterly: just keep in mind that we're never going to allow off-pypi requirements like that in the official openstack requirements list, but if you're doing this for an unofficial project and don't expect to have global requirements enforcement on it then should be fine15:54
ddieterlyfungi: pyodbc is now downloading, but it is not building correctly15:54
ddieterlyhttp://logs.openstack.org/49/134349/8/check/gate-monasca-api-pep8/a7ce49b/console.html15:54
ddieterlyfungi: this is a stackforge project, but we want it to be in openstack eventually15:55
fungiddieterly: yeah, you need the unixodbc development headers installed. it's the unixODBC-dev package on ubuntu (not sure on centos but probably has a similar name)15:55
ddieterlyhow do i get those installed?15:56
fungiddieterly: if pyodbc is something your project is set on using long-term, then you probably want to start a dialogue now with the pyodbc authors about getting them to publish their tarballs/wheels on pypi.python.org rather than as links15:56
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ddieterlyi see15:57
fungiddieterly: you can add a builder macro to a custom job definition which installs that package on the worker before sudo permissions are revoked, as one option15:57
fungiddieterly: you'd have to stop using the standard job templates for that, but it's doable15:58
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: print out log url at the end of jobs  https://review.openstack.org/13458215:58
sdaguefungi: thanks much15:58
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fungiddieterly: we can start a discussion about preinstalling those headers packages on all job workers, but it's likely a dead end for unofficial projects15:59
ddieterlyyeah15:59
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fungiddieterly: are there pure-python alternatives?16:00
ddieterlyi'm wondering about that16:00
fungiddieterly: sometimes that's the easiest way out16:00
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ddieterlylet me check that16:00
ddieterlyi know lots of projects use sqlalchemy16:00
ddieterlylet me see if that is an easy fix16:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add non voting rally performance job to designate project  https://review.openstack.org/13439216:01
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fungiddieterly: right, if your use case is one met by an existing openstack requirement, then ideally you should prefer that for consistency purposes16:01
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ddieterlyyea, i'm researching it now16:01
fungihaving half a dozen packages in the requirements list all of which do nearly the same thing is not a great outcome16:02
ddieterlyi'll have to migrate all sql to sqlalchemy, but that might be doable16:02
ddieterlymakes sense in the long run16:02
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ddieterlyfungi: is influxdb supported?16:05
fungiddieterly: supported by what?16:05
ddieterlywe also use influxdb and i'm wondering if we are going to have a similar problem16:05
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ddieterlyis it in pypi and the openstack build scripts can use it?16:06
fungiddieterly: looks like it's published on pypi directly. i can just pip install it in a clean virtualenv with no special options or odd system requirements16:07
fungishould be fine16:07
ddieterlyok, so that's what we want, right?16:07
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fungiddieterly: yeah, though i definitely didn't go through the rigorous global requirements review checklist for it though so no guarantees it has a suitable license, support model, et cetera16:08
ddieterlyfungi: k, thanks16:08
rossella_shello infra! I have a question. I am using oslo.db.sqlalchemy.test_base.MySQLOpportunisticTestCase and PostgreSQLOpportunisticTestCase to run some tests on the db for Neutron. My understanding is that on the VM that runs the test the db user openstack_citest is set up. I don't understand why in my tests I get the following error “ERROR [oslo.db.sqlalchemy.provision] mysql://openstack_citest:openstack_citest@localhost/ does not match dat16:08
rossella_sabase admin credentials or database does not exist.”. Any suggestion? The patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124136 . Thanks!!16:08
fungiddieterly: for reference, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Requirements#Review_Criteria16:09
ddieterlycool, thanks16:09
sdagueddieterly: a more official version is in the README of global-requirements repo16:10
fungirossella_s: we use this manifest to prime the mysql configuration on our job workers: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/slave_db.pp16:11
fungisdague: ddieterly: d'oh! right, sorry, forgot... http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/README.rst16:12
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sdaguehonestly, we should delete that wiki page, it's duplicative, and not linked from anywhere16:12
fungisdague: totally agree16:13
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sdaguereed: do we have a {{deprecated}} tag for pages in the wiki?16:13
fungisdague: or hollow it out and put in a link to that readme16:13
reedsdague, there is a 'obsolete' namespace where pages go to die16:13
sdaguereed: right, I don't want that16:13
reedsdague, what's the need exactly?16:13
sdaguelet me find an example16:13
rossella_sfungi: thanks! I can see in the manifest that the user is created and configured. Any idea why I get that error?16:14
sdaguereed: so, what I'd like is a standard set of templates to mark pages as deprecated. wikipedia uses them for pages like this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wappinger,_New_York16:14
reedsdague, checking16:15
sdaguethat box at the top is provided by {{coi|date=September 2014}}16:15
fungii think we have a deprecated admonition/template but don't recall the details now16:15
reedsdague, yes, we have something like that16:15
sdaguereed: ok, what is it?16:15
reedlet me got get it16:15
fungirossella_s: i'm looking at the patch now to see if i can figure it out16:16
reedusability of mediawiki is basically... less than ideal16:16
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rossella_sfungi: so kind of you! thanks a lot and sorry for bothering :)16:16
sdaguereed: agreed, honestly I'd rather have a full fledged cms16:16
reedsdague, something like this, right? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Template:ImplementedFeature16:16
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reedhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Template:OldDesignPage16:17
sdaguereed: yep, exactly16:17
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reedsdague, I hear you... in fact, we're moving out of the wiki for a lot of stuff16:18
sdagueI want one for Out of Date16:18
reedsdague, which page? maybe I can create a template16:18
sdagueor something, so that people know that page is kind of historical, there might be some information they can pull out of it, but that they shouldn't trust it16:18
sdaguehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Requirements16:18
reedhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Obsolete:API16:19
fungirossella_s: fair warning, i'm a bit out of my depth there so you may want one of the oslo.db devs to give it a going over as well16:19
reedsdague, why not move the page to Obsolete namespace ?16:19
sdaguebecause of any off site links to the page16:20
rossella_sfungi: thanks a lot! I will ask in the oslo.db channel16:20
sdaguedeprecated with a comment at least lets them, and google, get to the real info16:20
sdagueif we move the url, we loose that16:20
fungisdague: moves in mediawiki give you the option to leave a redirect behind16:20
reedsdague, you can keep a redirect when you move the page...16:20
fungion by default in fact16:20
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sdaguefungi: sure... but, that just means we redirect to bad info16:21
reedsdague, but I see your point: you still need to put some text in the page to signal the warning16:21
sdagueand what I actually want is 'yes, you bookmarked this page, the content actually isn't useful any more, but here is a pointer to something better'16:21
reedso, to make it short... we need a template for a simple 'old' page16:21
sdaguereed: yep16:21
reedsdague, should be easy to do... let me try16:22
fungisdague: yep. in this case i think it's likely better to just empty out that particular page and leave a comment stating that the requirements workflow and review process are documented in the readme, and add a link to it16:22
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fungihelps with discoverability, while avoiding duplication/divergence of info16:22
sdagueI found in maintaining a sizeable wiki that if you advertised that kind of thing you actually have a nice 2 phase pruning process where people realize a page is terrible, and can mark it as such, even if they don't know what to do with the content16:23
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sdaguewe had some Needs Improvement kinds of tags as well, which was helpful in basically being a low hanging fruit tag for wiki content updates16:23
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fungiyep, admonitions are great for that, and for helping newbies figure out where they can help improve the articles too16:24
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reedsdague, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Template:DeprecatedPage16:25
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sdaguereed: looks great16:27
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reedsdague, do you want me to add it to Requirements?16:29
sdaguereed: sure16:30
sdaguethanks16:30
reeddone16:31
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reedI'm afraid to learn too much about mediawiki: it's some sort of useless knowledge without the cool factor, even16:32
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reedi'm finishing the weekly newsletter, pumping up the music :)16:33
fungiit's a dark art16:33
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openstackgerritLucas Dutra Nunes proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: builders: add Hudson cmakebuilder plugin support  https://review.openstack.org/13419916:35
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clarkbamsterdam is pretty awesome16:53
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zarosmoke a joint while you were there?16:55
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clarkbno but food beer and canals are good16:56
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zarodidn't think you would, but just had to ask anyway :)17:00
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vipulcan anyone help me figure out why the requirements check is failing on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134389/617:17
vipulthe requirement it seems to be complaining about has actually been removed from requirements.txt17:17
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Working Directory Management  https://review.openstack.org/13064917:23
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fungivipul: looks like a bug in project-requirements-change.py17:25
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vipulfungi: anyway to get that forced through?17:25
fungivipul: it's trying to parse a version spec out of the removed line and raising an exception when it can't17:26
vipuljust out of curiousity .. why check removed lines?17:26
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Working Directory Management  https://review.openstack.org/13064917:27
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fungivipul: you can get it forced through by either removing the check-requirements template entry from http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n4110 or fixing http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/scripts/project-requirements-change.py17:28
fungi(though the latter will take up to a day to make it into new nodepool images, so you may want to do both and then revert the first once the second is working)17:29
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fungii'm looking at the script now to see what terrible, terrible assumptions it's making17:30
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vipulfungi: ok cool - i will make the change to our zuul pipeline.17:32
vipuli'll look at fixing the project-requirements-change.py but may need context on why it's evne looking at removed lines17:32
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fungivipul: i think we should probably just add an additional condition around line 54 where it's already exempting tarball links, but yeah i'm trying to think through why it's doing that on the removed lines too17:32
sdagueclarkb: if you keep popping on irc I'm going to ask you to review things :)17:33
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clarkbsdague I am just checking things randomly from airbnb living room17:36
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clarkbwe are on a canal with boats and children playing field hockey in street17:36
clarkbtl;dr its awesome17:36
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krotscheckAre there any outstanding issues with the infra migration? I think we’ve got everything moved over.17:37
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krotscheckOther than running the scripts one or two more times to catch stragglers...17:37
krotscheck…and getting all the docs approved...17:37
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fungikrotscheck: i think that's all17:37
krotscheckYay17:38
fungikrotscheck: and getting e-mail support working in sb asap17:38
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krotscheckYep17:38
krotscheckWas just working on that.17:38
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krotscheckPeople are arguing with me though, so that’s getting drawn out.17:38
fungikrotscheck: and disabling bugs in lp for those projects (excepting openstack-ci which is going to be interesting to reconcile if elastic-recheck continues to use that for a while)17:39
krotscheckfungi: I’m not super worried about that anymore, courtesy of the most recent import script changes.17:39
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fungikrotscheck: true, we can just continue to import openstack-ci into system-config periodically i guess17:40
krotscheckfungi: It sounds like we have a brilliant case for building the syncrhonization component of storyboard’s federation :D17:40
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krotscheckHere’s your project, here’s your upstream, go stay in sync for a while :D17:41
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* krotscheck feels that would be a good use case for git issues as well.17:41
reedthis question is puzzling me https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/53230/how-to-change-the-email-account-for-httpsreviewopenstackorg/17:42
openstackgerritVipul Sabhaya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove requirements check from Cue pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/13460817:43
vipulfungi ^17:43
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krotscheckzaro: I’m confused by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133242/ - didn’t we just add something like that in a differernt patch?17:43
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fungireed: i'm struggling with the phrasing in that question... can't quite figure out what problem is being described17:45
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reedfungi, me too. I suspect he created two accounts and wants to merge them17:45
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clarkbfungi krotscheck so is infra on storyboard now?17:46
fungivipul: so, the script generates a diff between branch tip and the proposed change in an attempt to only flag issues with the lines that are changing, but it attempts to parse them with a common function. we may need to tweak it to not parse the branch tip with pkg_config, just use it for diff context17:46
krotscheckclarkb: All the data has been migrated, we’ve got patches in to update the documentation everywhere, and the wiki’s been updated.17:47
fungivipul: i'm playing with one possible solution there now17:47
clarkbwoot nice work17:47
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krotscheckclarkb: The only outstanding item would be to replace the project page on launchpad with a link.17:47
vipulfungi: so this could only occur if we sidestepped the requirements check and got an invalid requirement into tip17:47
zarokrotscheck: yes, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131870/17:47
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zarokrotscheck: nikita didn't like that.  i thought it was too intrusive so put it in a seperate file.17:47
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fungivipul: right (or you added the requirements check job after your branch tip was in that state)17:48
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krotscheckzaro: Weird. I actually preferred your previous approach, because I like things that are generic and help everyone.17:49
krotscheckI get what he’s saying about /usr/bin/pyton, but just because setup.cfg generates the commands for you doesn’t mean that you can’t use __main__17:50
krotscheckAlso, I’m glad pycharm handles all that for me.17:50
fungi(non-free software alert!)17:51
krotscheckYep17:51
krotscheckfungi: Well, it’s free if you’re only working on open source.17:51
fungithough i guess there is also an apl2 community edition17:51
zarokrotscheck: yeah, to work on elcipse itdoesn't need /usr/bin/python, only the __main__ part but since he -2 i thought he would be ok with the 2nd approach.17:52
vipulpycharm rocks!17:52
krotscheckIs there an offical term for “Free for open source” licenses?17:52
fungikrotscheck: english has too many unrelated definitions of the word "free" unfortunately17:52
* clarkb writes java with vim and likes it >_>17:52
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krotscheckclarkb: Yes, and we also know that you’re a homebrewing portland hipster ;)17:53
* krotscheck says that with love17:53
clarkboh god that is happening isnt it17:53
krotscheck….yyyyyeap17:53
jesusaurusclarkb: do you at least use supertab when writing java in vim?17:53
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clarkbI dont know what super tab is so no17:54
clarkbI did do nerdtree once upon a time17:54
krotscheckI mean, comeon. You just referenced a tool that is both retro, community-unique, and not main stream :)17:54
nibalizeris that like nerdtree?17:54
jesusaurustab completion in insert mode17:54
krotscheckIt’s like you were into vim before it gets cool.17:54
clarkbjesusaurus: ^N17:55
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krotscheckzaro: I think NikitaKonovalov’s -2 is a bit strong, since the bindings he’s referring to don’t allow you to attach a debugger.17:55
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krotscheck(I think)17:56
jesusaurusclarkb: that works17:56
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tchorizosupertab is awesome18:10
tchorizobut18:10
tchorizoI accidentally started using emacs for python coding18:11
tchorizoand then realised that all the plugins I’d been using to make vim an ide are clones of features that emacs does better18:11
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tchorizokrotscheck: “free for open source” sounds to me a lot like MS giving windows/MS dev tools free to schools and unis - so that the grads come out only knowing windows, so that employers have to use windows and MS tools if they want to be able to hire anyone18:12
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fungiindeed. if you want an ide, i think emacs is a lot closer out of the box. i don't really want an ide, and get by with vim syntax highlighting. vim plug-ins seem like overkill, and if i really needed them i think i would just bite the bullet and emacs my workflow18:12
tchorizoor like cigarette companies trying to market to young people, to get maximum value out of them over their lifetime18:12
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fungitchorizo: i love that second analogy btw18:13
clarkbI would emacs if evil worked better18:13
zaropelix: thanks for you help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131882/18:13
fungifree as in "free samples"18:13
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zaropelix: i have more questions than answers :(18:13
tchorizothat said, if I was making a commercial project, I’d almost certainly try to wangle a “free for open source dev” licence18:13
tchorizopartly because I identify as part of the open source community and I’d love to offer them something18:14
krotschecktchorizo: I feel that this isn’t quite the same case -> MS is pushing a language and set of frameworks that only runs on $$ servers, and their IDE is basically the only game in town. It’s very similar to Adobe’s attempt to push Flex. In contrast, things like Pycharm have plenty of competition, and the language is not really controlled by the company.18:14
tchorizobut also because I think it’s good marketing18:14
tchorizokrotscheck: all good points18:14
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tchorizoalso I’d balance mentioning MS with mentioning that this is why particular unix variants got popular - because they had free-for-educational-use licences18:15
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tchorizoand then linux got popular partially for the same reason - very lower barrier to entry -> more people know how to use it -> more people use it18:15
krotscheckSo in their case they make money becuse their feature set is _just plain better_ for a demographic on engineers who like their tools to have bubbly mac buttons18:15
tchorizoapple have a long history of getting apples into schools too :)18:15
krotscheckNot because they’re trying to bait-and-switch engineers.18:16
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fungii have a hard time imagining what i'd do if i sold software, since i can't realistically imagine myself selling software. for enough of my formative years i knew software as something you got by sending a couple bucks to an address in the back of a newsprint flier and they mailed you cassettes or floppies (or that i uploaded enough to a bbs to get sufficient download credit for)18:16
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pelixzaro: no idea how it worked with the space?18:17
tchorizoI met someone a few years ago who told me she used to maintain a library of functions for COBOL or FORTRAN or one of those languages18:17
krotscheckHonestly, I feel that the free-for-open-source license is an understanding from the builder that if they don’t offer that, we’d figure a way around their DRM anyway.18:17
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tchorizowhich didn’t impress me much till she explained that “library” meant people would mail her a tape and a request for a function, she’d copy it from her library and mail the tape back18:17
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fungitchorizo: actually linux's more featureful initial competitor was free for academic use, you simply couldn't legally redistribute it except in print form18:18
tchorizofungi: minix?18:18
* fungi nods18:18
tchorizoI was at an LCA a few years ago where Tannenbaum gave a keynote18:18
tchorizowith Linus sitting in the front row18:18
tchorizoit was great :)_18:19
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fungithe minix license technically didn't allow you to redistribute digital copies. i have not so fond memories of having to retype it from the booklet18:19
tchorizoso getting back to the original question… I don’t know of a name for the free-for-open-source model18:19
clarkbtchorizo casual nick friday has me all confused18:19
fungithough awesome nick18:20
clarkbfungi they distributed it like pgp?18:20
fungiclarkb: sort of, yeah18:21
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fungithough the design goal was as a teaching fixture more than something you'd use outside a classroom setting (after all, there were real unix kernels for that)18:22
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zaropelix: dunno, you better at python than me :)18:23
clarkband its a micro kernel that has hurds problems right?18:24
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add test for globbed parameters feature  https://review.openstack.org/13188218:26
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pelixzaro: massaging my ego again? :p18:27
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Ensure sideways ironic grenade job is voting  https://review.openstack.org/13461818:27
pelixzaro: Looks like mocks doesn't have a way to enforce that only those calls were made except by performing an additional assertion on the number of calls made.18:27
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fungiclarkb: itym "hurd's solutions!"18:32
fungibut generally yes18:32
fungisimilar (if far more basic) design18:32
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update ironic pxe job names to reflect voting status  https://review.openstack.org/13462018:35
zaropelix: no way, just acknoledging my limitations :)18:35
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fungithough hurd extends the mach microkernel instead18:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove requirements check from Cue pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/13460818:40
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fungivipul: ^ in about 5 minutes that should be live and then you can recheck your change18:41
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JayFWould love some eyes on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134438/ -- we're very close to getting the agent jobs working everywhere, trying to get past this last thing ... and I'm pretty sure there's a better way to fix this than I've proposed18:44
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adam_gJayF, i *think  you need to just add your repos to PROJECTS here https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh18:46
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fungiJayF: it's not clear to me why build_ipa_coreos_ramdisk is calling git_clone at all18:46
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JayFadam_g: would that automatically check out the agent version we're testing against? if so, that's probably exactly what we want18:47
fungiJayF: unless as adam_g suggests, the repo isn't already used by devstack and therefore provided by d-g18:47
JayFfungi: afaik, IPA isn't automatically cloned in devstack anywhere today18:47
JayFfungi: the jobs for Ironic use the binary IPA built every commit (and now pass)18:48
JayFfungi: this is trying to build a branch of IPA and run tempest against an agent built from it18:48
fungiJayF: but yeah, the hope is that d-g provides a set of git repositories already so that we can make sure devstack doesn't need to try to clone them itself18:48
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fungiJayF: that helps prevent leaks around our git repo caching18:48
adam_gJayF, i believe so, yes18:48
JayFfungi: so add the repo to that list; remove the git_clone and instead source it to the right place18:48
JayFgot it, patch set incoming in 20m18:49
fungiJayF: right18:49
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fungiJayF: basically, we already provide cached copies of all our repos on nodepool images, and devstack-gate uses those (so that it can minimize the network traffic for updating them to branch tips)18:50
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adam_gwouldn't removing the git_clone prevent it from running outside of the gate, where the git checkout is required?18:50
fungiJayF: so if devstack tries to directly clone something, we lose the benefit of having cached it18:50
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fungiadam_g: JayF: it probably also needs to be in the list of projects devstack thinks it should provide. it already has the smarts to not clone those when present in its warmed cache18:51
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openstackgerritJay Faulkner proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow IPA to be cloned and built  https://review.openstack.org/13443818:54
JayFfungi: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/stackrc#L420 this is the piece you were talking about for devstack? Looks to be already there?18:57
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fungiJayF: okay, yeah, probably all set then18:57
JayFfungi: the other piece I think I need is to remove the git_clone18:57
JayFfungi: but where can I expect that source to be in order to perform the build/18:57
fungiJayF: there's a flat directory tree of all projects in /opt/stack/new18:58
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JayFaha beautiful, it looks like everything is already hooked up except removing the git clone18:59
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JayFjroll got this very, very close :)18:59
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JayFfungi: or should I keep the git_clone? It's just smart enough in the gate to not let me reclone it?19:00
fungiJayF: yeah if you look at any random setup workspace log you'll see it cds to /opt/stack/new and then git clone's all of those projects under there19:01
fungiJayF: and devstack already will clone the list of projects in stackrc if you're not running with cloning disallowed19:01
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JayFfungi: I guess I am confused because I see a git_clone call inside install_ironic() function in devstack19:01
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JayFbut yet obviously something about that works?19:02
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JayFhttps://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ironic#L14419:02
fungiJayF: oh, maybe. best to check with devstack core reviewers on that bit... it's likely that git_clone() only trips the alarm if the cache is missing for it19:03
JayFaha19:03
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JayFif ! -d $git_dest;19:03
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JayFis above the check19:03
fungithere you go19:03
JayFso as long as it's already been cloned, it's okay19:03
JayFcool19:03
JayFUnderstanding++19:03
fungiuse the source, luke19:04
JayFand it means my patch as-is is perfect19:04
JayFI'm always suspicious when it seems like my change is too small, haha19:04
JayFthanks very much fungi19:04
funginp19:04
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fungiahh, right, the project-requirements-change.py bug19:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Emit deprecation warning on old format use with gerrit trigger  https://review.openstack.org/13258519:14
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mordredzaro, krotscheck: I kinda like the -2'd patch better19:24
mordredbecause, you know, if __name__ == '__main__': is a common thing and stuff19:24
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fungivipul: so... i have a fix but you're not going to like it. mainly because even if we plaster over the exception reading the branch tip requirements, it still explodes on the proposed change because you have other requirements which aren't parseable either19:26
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fungisdague: i tested 125095 while working on the bug vipul pointed out, and found a bug19:34
fungisdague: see inline comment19:34
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ekarlso./cue/cmd/manage.py:39:1: H405  multi line docstring summary not separated with an empty line19:55
ekarlsohow does one fix that ?19:55
ekarlsohttp://pastie.org/971972619:55
fungiekarlso: by adding an empty line between the summary line and the body of the docstring19:55
ekarlsothere isn't any summary line :P19:56
fungiekarlso: precisely. if your docstring is so long that it wraps onto additional lines, then it should have a summary line19:56
fungiekarlso: so either add a summary line and a blank line before the body, or shorten the docstring enough that it fits on one line19:57
fungiekarlso: or tweak tox.ini to ignore H405 and stop worrying19:57
fungiall of those are valid solutions depending on your situation19:58
flashgordonclarkb: what is happening with multi node devstack?20:00
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make existing requirements parsing more forgiving  https://review.openstack.org/13463720:02
fungiflashgordon: i think multi-node devstack is drinking its way through amsterdam at the moment, and will resume next week20:02
fungiflashgordon: as of last week, in between sessions, clarkb had tempest passing for a multi-node deployment with a second nova compute subnode i think20:03
flashgordonfungi: ohhh right I forgot hehe20:04
clarkbafazekas updated the base d-g change it passes with new nodepool stuff20:04
clarkbfungi sdague ^ if that can be reviewed and merged it would be a major step20:04
* fungi nods (and finds)20:04
flashgordonclarkb: o/ nice, I want to test live migration -- the multi node job is running in experimental?20:04
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clarkbyes experimental and you should base on afazekas or my change20:05
fungisdague: when you get back to poking at 125095 be aware it probably merge-conflicts with independent fixes 134247 and 134637 (should we rebase them on it?)20:07
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flashgordonclarkb: I want to run more then just smoke can I do that in d-g?20:12
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fungiflashgordon: tweak a d-g change to export whatever envvars would make tempest run the things you want20:13
fungiexport TEMPEST_FULL=1 or whatever20:14
fungiflashgordon: just remember the flow of settings is jenkins->devstack-gate->(devstack,grenade,tempest) so any envvar set in a jenkins job could be overridden in a test change to d-g20:16
flashgordonfungi: thanks20:16
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: testing aiopcpu with tempest full  https://review.openstack.org/13463920:16
flashgordonfungi: nice easy hack ^20:16
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* fungi needs to take a break to write up an expense report for last week, or else wait three more weeks to get reimbursed... bbiaw20:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Check requirements correctly  https://review.openstack.org/13424720:20
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make existing requirements parsing more forgiving  https://review.openstack.org/13463720:38
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for tempest negative test bug 1392860  https://review.openstack.org/13464420:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1392860 in tempest "test_get_console_output_negative fails with: AssertionError: Expected client error, got 200:{"output": ""}" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139286020:44
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openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add plugins_info to module registry object.  https://review.openstack.org/13292720:50
openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Reorganize tests/cmd  https://review.openstack.org/13405520:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for tempest negative test bug 1392860  https://review.openstack.org/13464420:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1392860 in tempest "test_get_console_output_negative fails with: AssertionError: Expected client error, got 200:{"output": ""}" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139286020:53
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bhunter71A question. My zuul-server is spitting out "No JSON object could be decoded" every 5 seconds or so from gerrit.gerritWatcher (see: http://paste.openstack.org/show/133299/).   Any idea where I've done wrong?20:59
fungibhunter71: sounds like it's having trouble reading the gerrit event stream... did you connect it to something which isn't a gerrit event stream?21:00
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sdagueclarkb / fungi ok I'm roughly done for the week, given early mornings and con crud. I'll look again on Monday.21:11
fungisdague: cool. get well21:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Switched documentation to point to storyboard.  https://review.openstack.org/13386221:12
flashgordonhmm http://logs.openstack.org/39/134639/1/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu/58d4f4a/console.html#_2014-11-14_20_23_03_09521:12
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: print out log url at the end of jobs  https://review.openstack.org/13458221:13
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fungisdague: on 134582, we already have a link-logs builder macro which displays the log url near the start of the console log. did you want it in both places, or relocated to the end before the publishers run?21:23
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fungisdague: the benefit of making it a jjb macro is that we can attach it to any job, so it doesn't have to be reinvented for non-devstack-gate jobs21:24
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asselinfungi, I did try to relocate that to the end in my setup, but it doesn't run for failed jobs.21:32
asselinfungi, jenkins skips to the publishers21:33
fungiasselin: right, that's why i was asking (and why we put it at the beginning as well)21:33
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krotscheckmordred: Yep, me too.21:36
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openstackgerritBradley Klein proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move puppet-monasca to Stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/13465821:58
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flashgordonfungi: the link used to be at the bottom, but that made it hard to find in jenkins console log22:34
openstackgerritBrian Saville proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add MongoDB plugin support  https://review.openstack.org/13130122:37
sdaguefungi: I actually do want it at the end, because the partial console only shows that part when you first go there22:37
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flashgordonsdague: we might as well show it at both the top and bottom22:40
flashgordonfungi: have you seen this failure for aiopcpu before: http://logs.openstack.org/39/134639/1/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu/58d4f4a/console.html#_2014-11-14_20_23_03_09522:41
flashgordonwow running tempest full and neutron-aiopcpu has only 181 failures22:41
flashgordonlooks like resize related22:42
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JayFwould love an additional review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134438/ -- going to ensure the failures are what e-r thinks they are and recheck22:43
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flashgordonjust noticed devstack.org goes to docs.o.o now, nice!22:46
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fungiflashgordon: yeah, no idea... maybe iptables rules getting in the way?22:52
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flashgordonfungi: the neutron version of the job worked, so I am not blocked in testing live migration but yeah22:52
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fungiflashgordon: seems like there were things clarkb had to do with nova security groups but i don't recall the details22:56
flashgordonfungi: I wouldn't be surprised22:56
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flashgordonfungi: related question. nova uses ssh for moving instances between servers when there is no shared storage22:56
flashgordonwhich means the two nodes need to have eachothers keys in known hosts22:57
flashgordonany preferred way to do that? ssh-keyscan $IP >>  ~/.ssh/known_hosts22:57
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fungiflashgordon: or into /etc/ssh/known_hosts22:58
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support excludes when recursively processing paths  https://review.openstack.org/6889523:19
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: testing aiopcpu with tempest full  https://review.openstack.org/13463923:24
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Setup ssh_knwn_host files for aiopcpu  https://review.openstack.org/13467023:24
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flashgordonfungi: thanks, ^ should do it hopefully23:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add test for globbed parameters feature  https://review.openstack.org/13188223:46
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Setup ssh_known_host files for aiopcpu  https://review.openstack.org/13467023:51
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: testing aiopcpu with tempest full  https://review.openstack.org/13463923:51
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