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| anteaya | following the map stuff I came across a castle in victoria that folks might like: http://www.royalroads.ca/about/explore-hatley-park-castle | 00:12 |
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| anteaya | apparently it was purchased so the royal family had an out during the war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatley_Park_National_Historic_Site#Planned_royal_residence | 00:12 |
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| anteaya | map/flag | 00:12 |
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| jyuso1 | Hi,Is there any core member here?:) | 02:29 |
| jhesketh | jyuso1: I'll be around in an hour if you want to leave a query here? (also means others can help) | 02:31 |
| jyuso1 | jhesketh: hi,May I ask a question about CI?:) | 02:31 |
| jhesketh | Of course, but I'm out at the moment so may not be able to reply til later. But if you just ask away somebody else may be able to help in the mean time | 02:32 |
| jyuso1 | jhesketh: It's the Spring Festival in China these days.We have two CI on-line.During the vacation,we want to keep Intel SR-IOV CI and Intel PCI CI running without maintain.If there occur some problems on our CI,I'll fix it after the vacation is over,is that OK? | 02:33 |
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| jhesketh | jyuso1: if you think it's going to break or do bad votes you should probably take it offline and do the catch up testing after | 02:35 |
| jhesketh | Ideally though it doesn't break that often in which case you could leave it running for a few days unattended. | 02:36 |
| jhesketh | If it does break you can expect it to have voting turned off as per the policy | 02:36 |
| jyuso1 | jhesketh: Some of the error stuck our CI running are caused by merge of Tempest.so i can't sure it will happen or not. | 02:36 |
| jyuso1 | jhesketh: OK,thanks for your advice.we don't have voting rights yet:) | 02:37 |
| jhesketh | Possibly better to be cautious then. Since you don't have voting having your system catch up on tests after may be better | 02:38 |
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| jhesketh | Depends if you think something you want to catch will come through as well | 02:39 |
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| jyuso1 | jhesketh: did you mean may be i could add some warning info in fail comment of our CI? | 02:42 |
| jhesketh | jyuso1: possibly, the issue is more with spamming messages, can't hurt though | 02:43 |
| jhesketh | I was referring to it depending on the type of things you're testing | 02:44 |
| jhesketh | Ie what you're trying to catch | 02:44 |
| jyuso1 | jhesketh: OK,thanks for your advice.really appreciate:) | 02:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: zuul-swift-log index use icons for mimetype https://review.openstack.org/156117 | 04:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable non-voting keystoneclient tests https://review.openstack.org/156123 | 04:40 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh I think trap - ERR and trap ERR are equivalent but unable to double check now. thank you for reviewing | 04:58 |
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| jhesketh | clarkb: no worries, as I said I'm not familiar with trap so that was just my reading of the man | 05:03 |
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| jhesketh | clarkb: when you're around let me know if you have time to look at swift uploading speeds | 05:16 |
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| Abhi_1892 | can anyone help me setting up a logserver for my ci?? | 07:17 |
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| yolanda | AJaeger, thx for reviews, i'm currently fighting jjb.. i think i have it now | 10:13 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: I noticed ;) Let's wait for the build results... | 10:13 |
| yolanda | just did the tests locally now | 10:13 |
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| yolanda | thx for your reviews, so quick, many thx. Do you have any idea about zuul-cloner and my questions about that, btw? | 10:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Spec for nodepool image update retries https://review.openstack.org/155305 | 10:20 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: sorry, can't help with zuul-cloner yet | 10:20 |
| yolanda | thx anyway... i hope tests passed, i tested jjb locally and it liked the changed now :) | 10:21 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: I reviewed and commented, tests should pass ;) | 10:27 |
| yolanda | good policy :) | 10:28 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, if we want to add these as non-voting, this should be in check? | 10:28 |
| AJaeger | yes, only in check | 10:30 |
| AJaeger | you can also add them initially to the experimental queue | 10:30 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, ok, let me raise that into this afternoon SB meeting | 10:31 |
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| spredzy | If in a project, I created the first patchset (patchset 1), but someone else commited on top (patchset 2), is there anyway with git to pull patchset 2 within my working directory that doesn't involve passing the <id> of the review in the command line? | 10:52 |
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| sdague | SergeyLukjanov / jhesketh - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155994/ | 11:35 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, it's lgtm | 12:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Bump cookiecutter's hacking to 0.10 https://review.openstack.org/155843 | 12:49 |
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| tchorizo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149629/ had workflow+1 on Feb 12; it doesn’t seem to be in merge conflict; but it hasn’t yet merged | 12:56 |
| tchorizo | I’m happy to just poke it with another +A if that helps, but I thought this might be interesting to troubleshoot first | 12:56 |
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| StevenK | tchorizo: Looks like the dependant didn't merge until 2 days later. Perhaps recheck it first? | 12:58 |
| tchorizo | oh. | 12:58 |
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| tchorizo | my understanding is that it’s going to have to go through the check queue and then it will hit the gate queue if the check queue passes | 12:59 |
| tchorizo | give our failure rate lately I’d rather not give it two passes through the check queue | 13:00 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, once you're really awake (had your coffee ;-) and have a few minutes, please ping me... | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/requirements: Add docutils to g-r https://review.openstack.org/156218 | 13:49 |
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| mordred | spredzy: no, there is no way to do that - all of the possibe mechanisms you can use to pull that changeset all involve the review id in some form | 13:55 |
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| spredzy | mordred, thanks for the answer. This is what I feared. | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run translation jobs only if translation files change https://review.openstack.org/156222 | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Change os-ansible-deployment checks to use scripts https://review.openstack.org/156229 | 14:25 |
| fungi | spredzy: depends on the details of your "no id on the command line" constraint. for example a very small script could extract the change-id header from the commit message and query gerrit to obtain the latest patchset | 14:25 |
| fungi | spredzy: that would avoid _you_ needing to pass any sort of id on the command line because the script would be doing it instead | 14:26 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: i am actually consuming my coffee if you want to begin describing what's gone off the rails | 14:27 |
| mordred | fungi: good point | 14:27 |
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| fungi | could even be added as a command-line option in git-review (e.g. `git review --refresh` or similar to update to the latest patchset of the current change in gerrit) | 14:28 |
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| fungi | or mayve overload the download options like -d and -x to try that mechanism if you don't specify a change number | 14:29 |
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| spredzy | fungi, in fact this might be just the solution | 14:30 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, thanks! Good morning! | 14:32 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, one curiosity: In project-config/gerritbot/channels.yaml, we can specify as event "x-vrif-minus-2". | 14:32 |
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| AJaeger | Do these events really happen? I don't remember seeing them on IRC at all - or is that just my selective reading? | 14:33 |
| fungi | AJaeger: that's a broken feature | 14:33 |
| AJaeger | fungi: So, I'll continue ignoring it ;) | 14:34 |
| AJaeger | thanks | 14:34 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i think it's that the event emitted in the event stream doesn't match what the bot is watching for | 14:34 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: pretty sure it needs to be looking at all comment events and parsing them to see if they start with a -2 code review vote | 14:34 |
| AJaeger | Is that anything we should care about? Or just continue to ignore... | 14:35 |
| AJaeger | fungi: a real problem: horizon-upstream-translation-update runs out of space | 14:35 |
| fungi | AJaeger: it's _possible_ someone has reported a bug and/or submitted a patch to fix that | 14:35 |
| AJaeger | See https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/horizon-upstream-translation-update/1399/console | 14:35 |
| mordred | STAB STAB STAB | 14:35 |
| mordred | How should the names of properties with protections on them be communicated to a user? | 14:35 |
| mordred | The consensus is that this should be done independently of glance. It's up to the cloud provider to communicate this information to users via documentation or other appropriate means. | 14:35 |
| mordred | like, we actually actively agree that we should make things suck for our users | 14:35 |
| fungi | mordred: we should force them to all standardize on notifying users via singing telegram | 14:36 |
| AJaeger | mordred: oops ;( | 14:36 |
| anteaya | just singing though | 14:36 |
| mordred | you know how you discover that there is a property that can't be set? you try, and if you get a 403 with a bunch of HTML in it as the message, then it was protected | 14:36 |
| anteaya | no balloons, no animals | 14:36 |
| fungi | anteaya: though clown-o-gram might be an acceptable alternative. i like clowns | 14:36 |
| * anteaya can accept clown-o-grams as an alternative | 14:37 | |
| fungi | AJaeger: is that failure reproducible or was this an isolated incident? | 14:38 |
| AJaeger | fungi: seems reprodecuable | 14:38 |
| fungi | AJaeger: maybe we've accumulated a lot of cruft on the proposal worker. i'll jump on there and poke around | 14:38 |
| AJaeger | fungi, https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/horizon-upstream-translation-update/ | 14:38 |
| fungi | /dev/xvda1 20G 19G 243M 99% / | 14:39 |
| fungi | yeah, pretty full! | 14:39 |
| AJaeger | yep | 14:39 |
| fungi | 11g in /home/jenkins, so there's another 8g hiding somewhere on the fs | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: oslo.messaging: don't execute functional tests for stable branches https://review.openstack.org/156172 | 14:42 |
| fungi | temporarily freed about 2gb by running `apt-get clean` to drop the package cache from /var | 14:43 |
| fungi | now that the worker isn't running any new jobs, i've temporarily offlined it so i can clean out all the 11gb of accumulated workspaces in ~jenkins/workspace | 14:44 |
| odyssey4me | hi everyone - I'm getting a -1 on the config layout check here, but the log doesn't produce anything that makes any sense - can someone take a look please? https://review.openstack.org/156229 | 14:44 |
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| mordred | fungi: that seems like a lot of accumulated workspaces | 14:46 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: looks like a yaml parsing error on projects.yaml | 14:46 |
| fungi | mordred: AJaeger: yep, worker back online now with 13gb free space. biggest offenders were propose-requirements-updates (2.1gb), openstack-manuals-manuals-upstream-translation-u | 14:47 |
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| AJaeger | thanks ,fungi! | 14:47 |
| fungi | openstack-manuals-manuals-upstream-translation-update (2gb), nova-upstream-translation-update (0.7gb), propose-openstack-manuals-updates (0.7gb), openstack-manuals-manuals-propose-translation-up | 14:48 |
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| fungi | date (0.5gb) | 14:48 |
| * fungi curses stray carriage returns | 14:48 | |
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| AJaeger | odyssey4me: parser error in ".test/new/config/projects.yaml", line 3884, column 7 | 14:49 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: let me add a review comment for you on the line... | 14:49 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i just did | 14:50 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: need to wrap that in ' now that it starts with { | 14:50 |
| sdague | AJaeger: question... why are thinks like checkniceness, checksyntax, checkdeletions all their own tox jobs? | 14:51 |
| AJaeger | fungi: thanks for beating me! | 14:51 |
| odyssey4me | ah, thanks fungi AJaeger | 14:51 |
| sdague | vs. being project level options for tox -e docs | 14:51 |
| fungi | sdague: i know initially it was because different ones were voting vs nonvoting for different repos | 14:51 |
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| AJaeger | that was inititally, indeed | 14:51 |
| fungi | sdague: definitely worth revisiting whether they can be collapsed now | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Change os-ansible-deployment checks to use scripts https://review.openstack.org/156229 | 14:52 |
| AJaeger | sdague: I tried to merge them together but was shutdown: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113133/ | 14:52 |
| sdague | yeh, it seems like a ton of extra nodes being used for this | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Shaker project into Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/156159 | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Adjust gating jobs for ec2-api project https://review.openstack.org/154640 | 14:52 |
| sdague | so I think we should let projects config that in their tox.ini, because zuul level changes here seem like a really big hammer | 14:53 |
| sdague | and it consumes a lot of nodes | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | sdague: I missed oslotest in the juno cap change: https://review.openstack.org/156239 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Implement Streaming API websocket handler https://review.openstack.org/143304 | 14:56 |
| AJaeger | sdague: I agree. It was a convenince question, see the thread starting at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2014-August/004996.html | 14:56 |
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| AJaeger | sdague: so, do you agree with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156222/ as one step in that direction? | 14:58 |
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| sdague | AJaeger: sure | 14:59 |
| sdague | but the reset of the docs jobs seem like they should really be behind tox -e docs | 14:59 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: was that spec simply abandoned because nobody was reviewing it? i can understand the docs team not caring either way making a docs spec around reorganizing those jobs not get much attention, but maybe that's not the only group that has a vested interest in seeing them consolidated | 15:01 |
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| AJaeger | fungi: I abandoned it after the push-back I got on the mailing list, e.g. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2014-August/005007.html | 15:02 |
| fungi | aha | 15:02 |
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| fungi | that makes slightly more sense. i was missing context in the review comments | 15:03 |
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| AJaeger | at that point I got no push back from the infra team to reduce the number of jobs. If we have a node problem, I can reopen and ask to be "nice citiziens" ;) | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | I'm not sold on the either or argument | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | either good user experience or works for infra | 15:04 |
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| sdague | AJaeger: I put something on the list about it | 15:06 |
| anteaya | sdague: I emailed you a link to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155947/ which is the first draft of the nova-net to neutron migration documentation | 15:06 |
| sdague | anteaya: ok, I will have a look later | 15:06 |
| anteaya | but I emailed on the weekend so you might not have dug deep enough to see it yet | 15:06 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:06 |
| mordred | anteaya: I'm also not convinced on an either/or argument - and in fact I want to make sure that "works for infra" isn't a continual drum that's beat, even accidentally | 15:07 |
| anteaya | mordred: go you | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | MORITA Kazutaka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add test job for sheepdog devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/154605 | 15:07 |
| anteaya | just as a note, folks are becoming less aware what we do | 15:07 |
| mordred | infra exists largely to support the needs of the project- infra saying "no" should be relegated to cases where it actually is important for a reason that infra say no | 15:07 |
| mordred | yah | 15:07 |
| AJaeger | sdague: thanks, will read asap | 15:07 |
| anteaya | more hesitant to ask questions of us | 15:08 |
| anteaya | and spend more time re writing tools we have because they don't ask if we have them | 15:08 |
| mordred | this happens more or less over time- it swings back and forth | 15:08 |
| sdague | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156214/ - that should address the requirements merge thundering herds issue | 15:08 |
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| mordred | it's one of the reasons I think we have to be vigilent to not become BOFHs | 15:08 |
| AJaeger | sdague, fungi: could you review https://review.openstack.org/155217 for consistency, please? I'd like use to use one style here... | 15:09 |
| anteaya | well it is definitely swinging to "infra is really busy, so I'll just write this tool myself, I don't want to bug them" | 15:09 |
| anteaya | mordred: I don't know that acronym | 15:09 |
| AJaeger | sdague: I liked your approach. | 15:09 |
| mordred | AJaeger: "Bastard Operator From Hell" - slang for sysadmins who respond to everything with "no" | 15:09 |
| sdague | AJaeger: so I think git:// should be the prefered approach here | 15:09 |
| mordred | gah | 15:10 |
| mordred | anteaya: ^^ (not AJaeger) | 15:10 |
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| AJaeger | sdague, fungi, all: requirements jobs are currently failing, due to nova-docker and octavia, see https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/propose-requirements-updates/426/consoleFull | 15:10 |
| anteaya | funny I feel I have already become that, I'm looking for things to say yes to | 15:10 |
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| mordred | anteaya: it's an easy trap to fall in to | 15:10 |
| anteaya | said yes to many things at the mid-cycles so that was nice for me | 15:10 |
| AJaeger | mordred: ;) | 15:10 |
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| mordred | anteaya: part of the key is language and tone - when someone asks for someone, even if you have to say no, figuring out how to say "yes, and" instead or to make an alternate positive suggestion | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Refactor Tasks to work as a Subcontroller https://review.openstack.org/150052 | 15:11 |
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| mordred | is more work, but leaves people more with the impression that we are here to help, rather than to put them into boxes | 15:11 |
| anteaya | true | 15:12 |
| mordred | because the thing many people do not realize that many of the boxes, rules and procedures we have are actually in service of enabling large amounts of people to do things | 15:12 |
| anteaya | the ratio of energy spent to energy returned needs to come back into balance for me to have access to that again | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | I used to be able to do that | 15:12 |
| anteaya | then the ratio changed dramatically | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | helping people that disappear and never help others is in the energy not returned category | 15:13 |
| AJaeger | sdague, fungi: I'm fine on 155217 with either /opt/git or git:// - but let's be consistent here. and gnocchi is currently different from the rest. | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kulanov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create Influxdb-Grafana Fuel plugin project in Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/156245 | 15:14 |
| fungi | AJaeger: per my comment on the review, i'd rather not do either of those | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Implement Streaming API websocket handler https://review.openstack.org/143304 | 15:15 |
| AJaeger | fungi: dummy parameter ;) | 15:15 |
| sdague | fungi: why? | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add rally-ci group with label-Verified permission https://review.openstack.org/154532 | 15:17 |
| fungi | sdague: do you mean why make it obvious that this field doesn't influence the operation of the job? | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Setup project to run jobs on jenkins-dev.o.o https://review.openstack.org/153739 | 15:17 |
| sdague | so the reason that I want it to be the workable version, is that it means the localrc created is valid | 15:18 |
| sdague | because people often take those localrc files locally to reproduce | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Various fixes from real-world image uploading https://review.openstack.org/156247 | 15:18 |
| sdague | so creating a known invalid one throws another road block in place for people | 15:18 |
| sdague | that's not required | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Implement Streaming API websocket handler https://review.openstack.org/143304 | 15:19 |
| fungi | sdague: producing a reusable localrc as a side effect of running the job was not a use case i considered, but that makes some sense. i'm just concerned about people cargo-culting these job definitions not knowing that the parameter doesn't influence the operation of the job itself (and our reviewers forgetting that over time as well) | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Setup a project to test zuul-dev.o.o periodic pipeline https://review.openstack.org/154667 | 15:22 |
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| AJaeger | all the other fuel plugins have a create line in refs/heads/* like this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156245/1/gerrit/acls/stackforge/fuel-plugin-influxdb-grafana.config Is that create line really needed? | 15:23 |
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| nfedotov | Hello All. sdake and I are setting up Kolla check gate. And I have a question. | 15:25 |
| AJaeger | fungi, sdague: having a comment in each config file that explains that the last argument is unused is bad as well IMO | 15:25 |
| sdake_ | nfedotov which question? | 15:25 |
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| sdague | AJaeger: it won't be in the localrc | 15:26 |
| AJaeger | sdague: your comment regarding docs jobs came from trove - that explains a lot. I'm answering... | 15:27 |
| AJaeger | we could keep trove and openstack-manuals different if needed | 15:28 |
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| sdague | AJaeger: yeh, the docs jobs I care about are the ones landing on projects, though realistically it seems like manuals would also benefit from single venv | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Timothy R. Chavez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Print instance UUID to log https://review.openstack.org/156252 | 15:29 |
| nfedotov | we need to create patchset to openstack-infra/project-config repository. The patchset should have a jenkins job config and also there should be a change to zuul layout.ayml file. The question is: Will the patchset be tested in some gate? | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add message about preloading subunit streams https://review.openstack.org/155816 | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/requirements: Update gabbi to 0.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/156253 | 15:29 |
| timrc | ^^ More of an RFC than anything. | 15:30 |
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| AJaeger | sdague: trove is the only project using the openstack-manuals setup -the only one using XML files... | 15:30 |
| sdague | AJaeger: ok, but that's not going to be true in the future, right? | 15:31 |
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| AJaeger | sdague: There're no plans that I'm aware of to add further XML docu to any project. | 15:31 |
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| AJaeger | Doc team is moving away from XML partially and the ABI projects that annegentle moved to the projects, she converted to RST first. | 15:32 |
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| sdake_ | nfedotov in the past when I went through that, the changes to project-config don't check the affected repoistory (for example kolla wouldn't be rechecked/gated) | 15:32 |
| sdake_ | sdague can you confirm ? | 15:32 |
| fungi | mordred: msabramo's post to distutils-sig might be something you want to follow-up to (and that thread in general, but that post in particular): https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2015-February/025787.html | 15:32 |
| AJaeger | sdague: so, I don't see it. | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove sentence fragment https://review.openstack.org/155027 | 15:32 |
| sdague | AJaeger: ok | 15:33 |
| AJaeger | sdague, fungi: Regarding git:// - should we leave the status quo or do you want me to change something for consistency? I understand your views and just prefer consistency | 15:33 |
| mordred | fungi: no, I don't think I do want to | 15:33 |
| AJaeger | I'll be back later... | 15:34 |
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| fungi | fair enough. in general i think no matter how we try to solve the python packaging landscape (short of replacing it), there are bound to be compromises | 15:34 |
| mordred | fungi: that he does not understand that there needs to be SOME mechanism for achieving the results of the repeatability case means it's unlikely we'll have a useful conversation | 15:34 |
| mordred | fungi: totally | 15:34 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: i appreciate sdague's use case, but think that it's going to be no more than best effort since it's a code path we don't exercise and therefore have to way to mechanically enforce | 15:35 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i won't -1 it, whatever you settle on for that | 15:36 |
| mordred | fungi: I also don't seem to be subscribed to distutils-sig. oops :) | 15:36 |
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| yolanda | here, let me present you to Jovanka | 15:36 |
| yolanda | she is gulic on the irc | 15:36 |
| fungi | welcome gulic! | 15:37 |
| yolanda | and she is participating in the HP Women Scholarship | 15:37 |
| gulic | hi | 15:37 |
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| fungi | gulic: this is exciting. do you have anything in particular you're interested in working on? | 15:38 |
| gulic | fungi, I'll be working on storyboard. we should make more concrete plans during next week | 15:39 |
| fungi | gulic: well, let us know if you need anything--we're here to help! | 15:40 |
| gulic | fungi, thanks a lot :) | 15:41 |
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| clarkb | nfedotov the changes for jenkins jobs and zuul layout have their own tests. Not quite sure of that is what you are asking | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add xstatic-magic-search project https://review.openstack.org/154990 | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: prepare_node.sh line lengths are too long https://review.openstack.org/155417 | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use remote git path in DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG https://review.openstack.org/155217 | 15:57 |
| AJaeger | fungi, sdague: I updated the patch ^ | 15:57 |
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| AJaeger | fungi: I agree with the best effort but like to give it a try... | 15:58 |
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| clarkb | sdague fwiw you can build d-g images with dib really easily now. on my list of todos to document that and how to use them | 15:59 |
| fungi | also it's getting close to time to start thinking about a possible publication toolchain for those | 16:00 |
| krotscheck | StoryBoard Meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:00 |
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| sdake_ | nfedotov I have confirmed that the changes to project-config repo do not gate the changes for the project - so just make the job non-voting | 16:01 |
| clarkb | fungi yup that too. I really like swift for it if rax forces us to swift anyways | 16:02 |
| fungi | yeah, me too | 16:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/requirements: Remove failing projects https://review.openstack.org/156260 | 16:02 |
| fungi | maybe we can just make them publically accessible if they're not already, and simply maintain a published index so people can find them easily | 16:03 |
| fungi | that could be really simple if so | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Make aiopcpu jobs run tempest-full https://review.openstack.org/140445 | 16:04 |
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| clarkb | jogo I tried experimental jobs on the aiopcpu trap change again with success | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: We have a stable/juno branch ready https://review.openstack.org/156262 | 16:08 |
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| clarkb | jogo so dunno how to better catch the failure but I guess we just keep trying | 16:10 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: publication toolchain for waht? I'm confused by scrollback | 16:13 |
| fungi | nibalizer: for publishing the dib diskimages we create for our job workers | 16:13 |
| nibalizer | ah yes ++ | 16:14 |
| fungi | nibalizer: so other people can reuse them without having to run stuff to create their own worker base images, unless they need to make alterations | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Switch on python34 job for oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/155455 | 16:15 |
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| sdague | clarkb: sure, but I know of a lot of folks that use the localrc that we run as a starting point for their development. So it would be nice to have them as close to working as possible | 16:19 |
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| devvesa | Hello, I do have a question about how Jenkins jobs run | 16:22 |
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| devvesa | I've updated the requirements file of my project to install the source version of neutron master | 16:23 |
| devvesa | and pushed a review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155870/ | 16:23 |
| devvesa | It seems that there is a job that checks if the format of the configuration file is correct... and it does not like mine | 16:23 |
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| devvesa | Is there a workaround to avoid this check? | 16:24 |
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| lucasagomes | hi I see that "check-tempest-dsvm-ironic-parallel-nv" is now voting, it has been failing for a long time | 16:25 |
| lucasagomes | it should be non-voting | 16:25 |
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| AJaeger | devvesa: which of the 5 checks do you mean? | 16:25 |
| lucasagomes | until fixed | 16:25 |
| AJaeger | -nv jobs should be non-voting... | 16:26 |
| devvesa | AJaeger: the gate-networking-midonet-requirements one | 16:26 |
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| AJaeger | devvesa: Ah. You can in theory disable any job or make it non-voting - just a change to project-config/zuul/layout.yaml | 16:27 |
| fungi | devvesa: it looks like the problem is that it can't install the readline module. can you point to the failure you're describing? | 16:27 |
| clarkb | fungi because no ncurses | 16:27 |
| AJaeger | In this case, it's better to understand the failure first and fix it... | 16:27 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep | 16:27 |
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| fungi | lucasagomes: voting on which project? | 16:27 |
| lucasagomes | fungi, ironic | 16:28 |
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| lucasagomes | I'm trying to figure out where it lives in project-config | 16:28 |
| fungi | lucasagomes: checking now to see when/why the ironic devs switched it to voting | 16:28 |
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| lucasagomes | fungi, cool, yeah I'm trying to check too... (idk exactly where it lives tho) | 16:28 |
| jroll | fungi: lucasagomes: I don't see anything in project-config that would make it vote :| | 16:28 |
| lucasagomes | yeah, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156244/ << it's voting here | 16:29 |
| devvesa | Now I see I added to many jobs :) | 16:29 |
| devvesa | AJaeger: I can not see any non-voting example | 16:29 |
| clarkb | devvesa we dont see a requirements job as you describe | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | mordred: would you like an oslo summit session to discuss plans for pbr? | 16:30 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: "Toggle CI" | 16:30 |
| * dhellmann is trying to estimate how many rooms we will need | 16:30 | |
| AJaeger | clarkb: and then you see it | 16:30 |
| devvesa | clarkb: i think it was my fault adding it in the zuul layout: https://github.com/stackforge/networking-odl/blob/master/requirements.txt | 16:30 |
| devvesa | sorry, wrong URL | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add static network config element for Rackspace https://review.openstack.org/154132 | 16:30 |
| devvesa | clarkb: this one https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L5220 | 16:30 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: I don't think so - current plans for pbr are "change as little as humanly possible" | 16:31 |
| clarkb | devvesa but it didnt run against the linked change | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | devvesa: remove the "check-requirements" line from your job | 16:31 |
| devvesa | AJaeger: Ok. I'll do | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | mordred: there is a quite large backlog of unreleased changes right now. Maybe we can sync up about that after the oslo meeting | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/70/155870/3/check/gate-networking-midonet-requirements/c41f82d/console.html ? | 16:31 |
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| AJaeger | devvesa: wait a moment and let us check first... | 16:32 |
| devvesa | clarkb: is this one, right: http://logs.openstack.org/70/155870/3/check/gate-networking-midonet-requirements/c41f82d/ ? | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | I see thanks | 16:32 |
| mordred | dhellmann: yah - AIUI we're blocking on a patch to the semver stuff - but let's sync up for sure | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | mordred: that's what I figured, but I wasn't sure if anyone was actually working on it | 16:32 |
| fungi | lucasagomes: jroll: i'm wondering if we recently approved a change which is overriding the voting:false setting for the ^.*-nv$ job name pattern | 16:32 |
| devvesa | AJaeger, clarkb: many thanks | 16:33 |
| fungi | lucasagomes: jroll: can you narrow down approximately when this started? | 16:33 |
| jroll | fungi: agree, I don't see anything else | 16:33 |
| * jroll looks | 16:33 | |
| lucasagomes | looking too | 16:33 |
| lucasagomes | I noticed it now this afternoon | 16:33 |
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| jroll | fungi: first I see is 6:48 am pacific https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156192/ | 16:34 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: fungi: tripleo job is now also voting... I support this theory of breaking -nv | 16:34 |
| jroll | and/or all jobs are voting now | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove jobs for networking-midonet patches https://review.openstack.org/156268 | 16:35 |
| jeblair | fungi: perhaps skip-if? | 16:35 |
| fungi | jeblair: or maybe https://review.openstack.org/155930 | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove jobs for networking-midonet patches https://review.openstack.org/156268 | 16:36 |
| fungi | ahh, yep, that's using skip-if | 16:36 |
| fungi | and matching on ^.*(devstack|tempest|grenade)-dsvm.*$ | 16:36 |
| jeblair | wow | 16:36 |
| jeblair | so | 16:36 |
| jeblair | i thought we were going to wait on that | 16:36 |
| AJaeger | ooops ;( | 16:37 |
| jeblair | like... | 16:37 |
| jeblair | i mean, has that even been announced yet? | 16:37 |
| fungi | revert on the way | 16:37 |
| jeblair | fungi: thanks | 16:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/requirements: Add ironic-discoverd to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/156270 | 16:37 |
| jroll | thanks fungi :) | 16:37 |
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| lucasagomes | fungi, thanks man | 16:38 |
| fungi | jeblair: should i revert https://review.openstack.org/152298 too? | 16:38 |
| fungi | looks like it's also matching on ^.*(tempest|grenade|rally)-dsvm-neutron.*$ | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update docs for puppet 3 https://review.openstack.org/156272 | 16:38 |
| jeblair | fungi: let me look | 16:38 |
| AJaeger | devvesa: I +2ed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156268/ . Anybody else around to review and unblock devvesa? | 16:38 |
| fungi | slightly more restrictive | 16:38 |
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| fungi | but not much | 16:38 |
| jeblair | so here's the process we agreed to last week: we let the neutron job work for a while and look for any unexpected issues. then marun sends an announcement to the ml about it, and then we accept new uses of skip-if | 16:39 |
| fungi | okay, so overriding dsvm-neutron is okay for now, but not just all dsvm jovbs | 16:39 |
| jeblair | and my plan was that when the announcement goes out, we also write up how the project-config-core group shoudl be reviewing those changes | 16:40 |
| jeblair | because they are, as we have seen, very dangerous | 16:40 |
| jeblair | fungi: still looking to answer your question | 16:41 |
| jeblair | fungi: i do not think the neutron change needs to be reverted | 16:41 |
| jeblair | fungi: (i checked the output of the layout job, and the '-nv' jobs say non-voting in that one. they do not say that in the nova change) | 16:42 |
| fungi | yep, but there may just not be any dsvm-neutron-.*-nv jobs | 16:42 |
| jeblair | jhesketh, SergeyLukjanov, pleia2, mordred, fungi, clarkb, AJaeger, anteaya, sdague: i'm sorry folks jumped the gun on this, but here's how we should handle this going forward: | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Add conditional skips for nova jobs" https://review.openstack.org/156274 | 16:43 |
| jeblair | jhesketh, SergeyLukjanov, pleia2, mordred, fungi, clarkb, AJaeger, anteaya, sdague: please do not approve any zuul layout.yaml changes that use skip-ip. we're still testing it with neutron and looking for unexpected problemsn | 16:43 |
| fungi | jeblair: ^ | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: giving a +2 is fine? Or should we refrain from reviewing positively for now? | 16:44 |
| jeblair | jhesketh, SergeyLukjanov, pleia2, mordred, fungi, clarkb, AJaeger, anteaya, sdague: when we're happy with it, we'll send an announcement to the mailing list about it, and we will also write up some text about how to review them, because they can be complicated | 16:44 |
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| fungi | sounds good | 16:44 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: i think the main thing is not to approve them; however you want to do that | 16:44 |
| mordred | ++ | 16:45 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: I can review without approving ;) | 16:45 |
| jd__ | I got no reply, so – if there's anything else I can use to publish doc rather for a still-stackforge project (gnocchi) rather than RTFD, since RTFD cannot build the doc for that project? | 16:45 |
| devvesa | AJaeger: many thanks! | 16:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, ack | 16:45 |
| fungi | jd__: you could run your own webserver? | 16:45 |
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| fungi | jd__: or find something similar to rtfd but less broken? | 16:46 |
| jd__ | fungi: I don't think I want to do that? | 16:46 |
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| jd__ | moving to openstack/ is going to be simpler I guess | 16:46 |
| jd__ | :D | 16:46 |
| fungi | jd__: it's not a problem we've solved, and not something i'm aware of anyone else having solved | 16:46 |
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| mordred | jd__: :) | 16:46 |
| jeblair | jd__: "big tent" | 16:46 |
| mordred | "big tent" solves all problems | 16:46 |
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| jd__ | yeah I just wanted to not wait for "big tent" but well | 16:46 |
| mordred | jd__: just keep saying big tent more, it'll make you feel better | 16:47 |
| jd__ | "no more coffee!?" "big tent!" "yeah!" | 16:47 |
| jd__ | :-) | 16:47 |
| fungi | a big tent full of coffee | 16:47 |
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| mordred | mmm | 16:47 |
| mordred | tent of coffee | 16:47 |
| AJaeger | yum | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Add conditional skips for nova jobs" https://review.openstack.org/156274 | 17:00 |
| jeblair | it's a public holiday in the us, so i'm going to go do some holidaying... | 17:00 |
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| fungi | i was trying, though failing fairly miserably | 17:01 |
| clarkb | I am making real breakfast :) | 17:02 |
| clarkb | then visiting tax person | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack-infra/project-config: VPNaaS: make functional test voting https://review.openstack.org/156281 | 17:02 |
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| mordred | jeblair: you know presidents day it's a REAL holiday, right? | 17:06 |
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| mordred | it's just one of the excuses for the post office fokls to take even more time off | 17:06 |
| jeblair | mordred: any day where admission to national parks is free is a real holiday for me | 17:07 |
| clarkb | ++ | 17:07 |
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| clarkb | jeblair are you getting summer weather too? | 17:08 |
| mordred | jeblair: good point | 17:08 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yes; it was 70 in berkeley yesterday, and almost 80 in san juan bautista (where i was yesterday) | 17:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i plan on going to see what the weather is like in the mountains in a couple of hours :) | 17:09 |
| fungi | it's our week to get awful weather here | 17:10 |
| clarkb | ya we hit 67F yesterday | 17:10 |
| clarkb | in february | 17:10 |
| jeblair | clarkb: actually, i just realized i lied. this is not summer weather. this is actually _warmer_ than summer weather. it's like summer, but without fog. | 17:11 |
| mordred | :) | 17:12 |
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| clarkb | fungi :( | 17:14 |
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| fungi | it's coming right for us... http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=akq&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no | 17:14 |
| mrmartin | .php? awesome /irony off | 17:16 |
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| mordred | mrmartin: I hear people use that for things :) | 17:17 |
| mrmartin | hehe :D | 17:17 |
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| mrmartin | than switching to python | 17:18 |
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| ilyashakhat | SergeyLukjanov: are you around? | 17:22 |
| yolanda | hi mordred, you told me that there was a pending path for nodepool? i can have some time this week | 17:22 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: i tend to use government agencies as examples of how _not_ to develop software ;) | 17:25 |
| fungi | (note that the irony of nova coming out of nasa is not lost on me either) | 17:25 |
| mrmartin | fungi: same story here, from that amount of money I can build a spacecraft with ion-guns | 17:26 |
| mrmartin | full open-source :) | 17:26 |
| mrmartin | except the ion-guns | 17:27 |
| fungi | you won't open-source your ion guns? for shame... | 17:27 |
| mrmartin | just the 1.0 when the 2.0 came out | 17:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Separate out py3 requirements and remove email https://review.openstack.org/155078 | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use correct regex for EC2 tempest gating https://review.openstack.org/156293 | 17:36 |
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| jogo | clarkb: sounds good, I guess the good news is this isn't happening too much | 17:38 |
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| notmyname | is there anyway to create a gerrit dashboard link so that you can see the patches that I have starred? | 17:39 |
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| fungi | jogo: heads up, in case you missed it, we ended up needing to revert your nova skip-if patch (see scrollback for details) | 17:39 |
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| jogo | fungi: whoa didn't think it was going to merge so quickly | 17:43 |
| * jogo reads scrollback | 17:43 | |
| jogo | fungi: ohh non-voting to voting, that is really bad ... | 17:44 |
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| fungi | jogo: yeah, it's a pilot trial with the neutron jobs, and we weren't planning to even announce availability until it had an opportunity to smoke out potential shortcomings | 17:45 |
| jogo | fungi: yeah well sounds like we found an issue. | 17:45 |
| fungi | indeed | 17:45 |
| jogo | marun told me that, so I figured my patch was going to get a -2, hold off for now | 17:45 |
| jogo | fungi: I just want nova to be second in line to get a working version of skip-if. No rush as long as we are second ;) | 17:46 |
| fungi | yeah, we didn't do a great job of communicating that within our core review team, sorry | 17:46 |
| fungi | obviously not your fault there | 17:46 |
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| notmyname | is there any reason for a project that's in the openstack ecosystem but written in not-python to use stackforge? does that make sense? | 17:56 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: we have many not python projects in gerrit, I think the bigger questions are do the developers of this project want to use gerrit for code review and have gated CI testing | 17:57 |
| notmyname | clarkb: but if it's not python, does the CI system even work? | 17:57 |
| clarkb | notmyname: absolutely | 17:58 |
| notmyname | ah? cool | 17:58 |
| clarkb | notmyname: we CI puppet, chef, jenkins plugins, and so on | 17:58 |
| notmyname | clarkb: also, are there any license restrictions on stackforge. what about GPL projects? | 17:58 |
| notmyname | clarkb: in this case, it's C++, I think | 17:58 |
| clarkb | notmyname: it would need to be open source, I don't have any issues with GPL being in stackforge | 17:59 |
| notmyname | I've been talking to a company who is going to open source something that is related to swift. they're looking for the best way to do that. it's C++ and probably will be GPL. they've asked me about the best places to publish the project, so I'm looking for info | 18:00 |
| AJaeger | notmyname: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 18:00 |
| notmyname | AJaeger: thanks | 18:00 |
| clarkb | notmyname: from our perspective I really do think the biggest questions are "does the workflow work for them" since it is different than say github which some people always seem to expect whenever you say "git" | 18:00 |
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| notmyname | ok | 18:00 |
| AJaeger | notmyname: stackforge sounds fine - it's more the workflow (processes) than the language it's written in. | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: the CI machines are throwaway single use nodes and you can have root, so there is a lot of possibility there and I don't see it as a major issue | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | cool | 18:01 |
| notmyname | thanks | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | did you see my earlier question? | 18:01 |
| notmyname | is there a way for me to give you a link to gerrit so that you can see the patches that I've starred? | 18:02 |
| notmyname | or more generally, a set of patches that I've chosen and somehow tagged (stars or otherwise) | 18:02 |
| notmyname | (for arbitrary values of "me" and "you") | 18:02 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: what OS are the CI machines? | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: search for starredby:notmyname | 18:04 |
| notmyname | clarkb: nice!! | 18:04 |
| clarkb | notmyname: we have ubuntu precise, trusty, centos6, centos7 and fedora 21 | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: the older OSes go away as we stop needing them for stable openstack testing. So precise and cnetos6 will go away when juno is no longer supported | 18:05 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: got it. thanks. the list is good enough for now. what about suse? | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: no suse | 18:05 |
| clarkb | I don't think anyone has really asked for that ever | 18:06 |
| notmyname | it's a german company I'm talking to, so of course suse :-) | 18:06 |
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| clarkb | fwiw folks like ianw do a lot of work to make platforms they are interested in work (centos7 and f21 for example) | 18:06 |
| notmyname | and centos, so that's ok | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaime Flynn proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: updated conditional_publisher to support plugin changes https://review.openstack.org/155514 | 18:06 |
| clarkb | ok time to run or I will be late to tax person | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Various fixes from real-world image uploading https://review.openstack.org/156247 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Don't try to add an IP if there is one https://review.openstack.org/156088 | 18:08 |
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| reed | hi mrmartin, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151912/ seems to have received two +2 but no +w yet... do you know why? | 18:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Various fixes from real-world image uploading https://review.openstack.org/156247 | 18:10 |
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| fungi | just a heads up, i realized after pleia2 brought it to my attention last week that after the acl changes merged to replace the openstack-ci-admins and openstack-ci-core groups with infra-core, i never went back and updated instances of group inclusion in gerrit. there were 22. i've done that now and emptied/hidden the old groups | 18:11 |
| mordred | clarkb, notmyname: also, I believe AJaeger has some involvement with suse ... :) | 18:11 |
| mrmartin | reed hi, I don't know | 18:13 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: I have yes - let me read back... | 18:13 |
| fungi | reed: mrmartin: lgtm so approved. no idea why jhesketh opted to only +2 it | 18:13 |
| reed | thanks fungi | 18:13 |
| fungi | would need to ask him to find out | 18:13 |
| mrmartin | was too early / late | 18:13 |
| fungi | perhaps so | 18:14 |
| mordred | fungi: woot (on groups) | 18:14 |
| AJaeger | notmyname: right now no SUSE but there's interest by SUSE to have such images. So far not high enough on the prio list... | 18:14 |
| AJaeger | notmyname: If you need a SUSE contact, I'm available ;) | 18:14 |
| AJaeger | If there's a strong interest for SUSE images, I would appreciate it;) | 18:15 |
| notmyname | AJaeger: cool, thanks | 18:16 |
| AJaeger | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156315/ is the trove change. Now what's the best way to have gate-trove-docs call this? | 18:16 |
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| AJaeger | mmh, 156315 will not work as is - since clicking on gate-trove-docs will go to docs-draft and we have two publishers... | 18:23 |
| mordred | AJaeger: btw - I'm very close to having a good general mechanism for us making our own base images - so it should be "easy" to get opensuse images at that point if we desire | 18:23 |
| AJaeger | mordred: great! I've seen some of your work but haven't dug deep enough into it | 18:24 |
| mordred | it has not been good enough to warrant digging in to yet :) | 18:24 |
| fungi | especially since our centos tooling around that is probably mostly going to work as-is on suse | 18:24 |
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| fungi | i think. unless suse has gone in really different directions since the last time i looked at it | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add puppet askbot and puppet solr modules https://review.openstack.org/151912 | 18:25 |
| mordred | fungi: I'm CERTAIN it will work as-is in its current state, since it does not work right now | 18:26 |
| mordred | fungi: but yet :) | 18:26 |
| * mordred stabs systemd | 18:26 | |
| * mordred owes ianw a link to some patches so he can help figure that bitout | 18:26 | |
| clarkb | jogo: still no luck on the ssh errors. oh well will continue to tr to catch it | 18:27 |
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| jogo | clarkb: ack | 18:28 |
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| marun | sdague: ping re: neutron functional job's dependency on devstack | 18:28 |
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| vkmc | hi all! | 18:32 |
| vkmc | if someone has a moment later, the founder of channel #openstack-gsoc wants to delegate the channel to infra's domain | 18:32 |
| vkmc | dunno which are the steps we have to follow to do that, would appreciate some guidance | 18:33 |
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| fungi | vkmc: http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html#access | 18:35 |
| vkmc | fungi, thanks! | 18:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: WIP: Not even close to finished - use shade https://review.openstack.org/156322 | 18:36 |
| pc_m | Hi folks. We have some questions on how to handle functional testing for VPN and StrongSwan driver, can anyone advise? | 18:37 |
| fungi | vkmc: and then propose a change to add it in the list at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/accessbot/channels.yaml#n53 | 18:37 |
| vkmc | fungi, will do | 18:37 |
| clarkb | pc_m best to just ask then people can chime in as able | 18:38 |
| pc_m | clarkb: OK... | 18:39 |
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| pc_m | For functional testing of the Strong Swan driver, it requires that both StrongSwan is installed and that AppArmor is disabled (it interferes with charon and stroke processes for StronSwan). | 18:40 |
| fungi | i think we disable apparmor on ubuntu anyway, don't we? | 18:40 |
| * fungi checks | 18:41 | |
| pc_m | How could we accomplish that? And how could we do that for the case of testing both OpenSwan and StrongSwan | 18:41 |
| pc_m | fungi: Well, I think Zhang was trying StrongSwan and apparmor was interfering and he had to manually disable it. | 18:41 |
| clarkb | pc_m your tests can install what they need and disable apparmor if necessary | 18:42 |
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| pc_m | clarkb: So, do that during test setup? | 18:42 |
| clarkb | ya | 18:42 |
| pc_m | as in setUP() method? | 18:42 |
| clarkb | oh no | 18:42 |
| clarkb | do it as the pre test hook or similar before your tests run | 18:43 |
| fungi | hrm, nope, we install and enable apparmor, at least on the devstack-trusty ready node i checked | 18:43 |
| pc_m | clarkb: Guess I'm not sure where that can be done. Any pointers... | 18:43 |
| fungi | so yes it would have to be stopped before running the job | 18:44 |
| fungi | or rather near the beginning of the job | 18:44 |
| ashepelev | Hello! I used to be the founder of #openstack-gsoc so I want someone else would have the op rights to modify it. vkmc told me to ask here about it. | 18:45 |
| pc_m | fungi: Any pointers as to how we do that? | 18:45 |
| fungi | ashepelev: the command you need to run is documented at http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html#access and then someone needs to propose a change to add it in the list at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/accessbot/channels.yaml#n53 | 18:45 |
| ashepelev | fungi: did it | 18:46 |
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| fungi | pc_m: git clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/project-config.git and then git grep pre_test_hook for examples | 18:46 |
| fungi | ashepelev: looks good to me. do you need someone to propose the change i mentioned to gerrit or were you going to take care of that too? | 18:48 |
| fungi | ashepelev: or was vkmc going to do that? | 18:48 |
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| pc_m | fungi: thanks. I have that project, but haven't done too much there (other than setting up the dsvm-functional tests for vpn repo). Will look at the pre-test-hook. | 18:49 |
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| pc_m | fungi: I'm not sure how we'll handle the case where we want to run both OpenSwan and StrongSwan functional testing. | 18:50 |
| ashepelev | fungi: I'll try to do it | 18:50 |
| fungi | ashepelev: vkmc: i can if you need, just let me know | 18:50 |
| fungi | pc_m: probably two separate jobs, i'd imagine | 18:50 |
| reed | ashepelev, the #openstack-gsoc channel seems to be +m and +i and you seem to have operator status there, can you fix it? | 18:51 |
| ashepelev | reed: working on it | 18:51 |
| pc_m | fungi: Mostly because it is an either or - cannot have both installed at oncec. | 18:51 |
| pc_m | once | 18:51 |
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| reed | fungi, what needs to be done to put #openstack-gsoc under infra control? | 18:51 |
| fungi | pc_m: right, you can always have two functional test jobs, one for each | 18:51 |
| pc_m | fungi: So make a dsvm-functional and a dsvm-functional-ss | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new trove xmldocs job https://review.openstack.org/156328 | 18:51 |
| AJaeger | sdague: please review the change above and the trove change, this should be a good step forward. | 18:52 |
| fungi | reed: ashepelev already delegated founder access to our accessbot, so just a one-line addition to accessbot/channels.yaml in project-config | 18:52 |
| pc_m | fungi: Is there a way to tell the functional test job to only run on a subset of files as well (e.g. run the strongswan test modules for the one functional test)? | 18:53 |
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| ashepelev | fungi: I think you could do it better, as I have no rights | 18:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-gsoc to accessbot https://review.openstack.org/156331 | 18:54 |
| fungi | ashepelev: ^ done | 18:54 |
| reed | cool | 18:54 |
| reed | Cannot join #openstack-gsoc (Channel is invite only). | 18:55 |
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| fungi | reed: i believe a few minutes after 156331 merges it should fix that, or at least put us in a position to be able to easily do so as ourselves | 18:56 |
| AJaeger | invite only? not that discussion again... | 18:56 |
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| pc_m | fungi: I could see where we'd want to run some functional tests all the time, and then other tests (e.g. the StrongSwan specific tests) only for the other functional job. Is there a way to specify different files for different jobs? Or some other way to do that? | 18:58 |
| pc_m | (e.g. have test run on sub-directory)? | 18:58 |
| reed | AJaeger, :) and the first one is not over yet :) | 18:58 |
| fungi | pc_m: there will be soon. marun wrote a filename pattern matching filter to skip jobs if they only touch specific subsets of the filesystem tree too, though that's currently still in an experimental trial and not yet ready for general use | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set docimpact for heat https://review.openstack.org/156330 | 19:00 |
| fungi | pc_m: oh, though today you can already set certain jobs to only run when specific files are modified | 19:00 |
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| AJaeger | reed: Yeah, looked like you still have a few things to do - thanks! | 19:01 |
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| fungi | pc_m: for example http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n715 | 19:01 |
| AJaeger | pc_m: see my patch https://review.openstack.org/156328 for an example | 19:01 |
| mrmartin | er, fungi, can I get a review on this too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152508/ ? | 19:02 |
| pc_m | fungi: Should we create a tests/functional/{common,strongswan,opensswan} and run tests on the sub-dir? | 19:02 |
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| mrmartin | and this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152504/ | 19:02 |
| fungi | pc_m: the jobs whose names match the ^gate-.*-requirements$ pattern only get run if the files modified in a change include matches against ^tools/.*-requires$ or ^.*requirements.txt$ or ^.*requirements-py[2,3].txt$ | 19:02 |
| fungi | pc_m: without getting more involved in the design of your driver and tests it's hard for me to say for sure, but that would certainly be one way to separate different tests | 19:03 |
| ashepelev | reed: ready | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new trove xmldocs job https://review.openstack.org/156328 | 19:04 |
| reed | thanks ashepelev | 19:04 |
| pc_m | fungi: So, could create one for '*strongswan*' or some such pattern | 19:04 |
| pc_m | AJaeger: thanks | 19:05 |
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| ashepelev | reed: no :) | 19:05 |
| ashepelev | np | 19:05 |
| fungi | pc_m: sure, that seems sane as long as all the files you care about testing changes to will have that somewhere in their pathname | 19:06 |
| pc_m | fungi: OK, so we can make a new functional test that has pre_test_hook setting up things, and then ensure that all strongswan files have the name in the .py file | 19:07 |
| fungi | or in one of their parent directories for that matter | 19:07 |
| pc_m | fungi: Is there a way to do negation? IOW, not test the strongswan files on a regular test run. | 19:07 |
| pc_m | fungi: Yeah, subdir with strongswan sounds better and just put the files in there. | 19:08 |
| fungi | pc_m: that would have more to do with how those other jobs are configured, as to making sure they they only run tests relevant to things which need to be tested | 19:08 |
| fungi | pc_m: for example, making sure tempest tests which would exercise that feature are skipped/removed or whatever | 19:09 |
| pc_m | fungi: I guess what I'm saying is that we have dsvm-functional right now, that tests everything in tests/functional/. | 19:09 |
| pc_m | So, don't want to run strongswan files on a normal run. | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Imran Hayder Malik proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add details to credentials param in scm docs https://review.openstack.org/156141 | 19:10 |
| fungi | pc_m: ahh, you may want to coordinate with marun on any design changes to the neutron functional job | 19:10 |
| fungi | pc_m: i assumed you were talking about functional jobs for something in another repo outside of the openstack/neutron repository, sorry | 19:11 |
| pc_m | fungi: Sure, though it'll be a neutron-vpnaas functional job :) | 19:11 |
| pc_m | yes I am | 19:11 |
| pc_m | For the neutron-vpnaas repo, we have dsvm-functional job for functional tests. | 19:11 |
| fungi | pc_m: oh, in that case sure redesign the neutron-vpnaas functional job for whatever silos you want and then have different scripts corresponding to the different things you want tested by different jobs or something | 19:12 |
| pc_m | Need to be able to only run tests for strongswan, when we have installed strongswan and disabled apparmor | 19:12 |
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| pc_m | fungi: So maybe use different directories to separate? | 19:12 |
| marun | pc_m: I'd recommend that you isolate tests with separate tox jobs | 19:13 |
| fungi | pc_m: that really has a lot more to do with the internals of however your functional tests are scripted, but that would be one possible option | 19:13 |
| marun | pc_m: putting in separate root paths is probably the way to go | 19:13 |
| pc_m | marun: Yeah. | 19:13 |
| marun | pc_m: so vpnaas is intending to support 2 paths? | 19:14 |
| marun | pc_m: any particular reason? | 19:14 |
| pc_m | marun: fungi: So create different root dirs, and then for the strongswan functional tests have a pre_test_hook. | 19:14 |
| pc_m | marun: 2 paths? | 19:14 |
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| marun | pc_m: having one opensource option that is well-supported would seem to be preferable to having more than one | 19:15 |
| marun | pc_m: neutron doesn't pretend to support more than the ovs path well upstream | 19:15 |
| pc_m | marun: If you can look up in the chat for the discussion. | 19:15 |
| marun | pc_m: the rest is up to vendorts | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove queries for resolved bugs https://review.openstack.org/155604 | 19:15 |
| pc_m | marun: Here's the issue... | 19:15 |
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| pc_m | marun: We have a reference implementation of VPNaaS with OpenSwan. | 19:15 |
| pc_m | marun: There is a BP to implement a new reference implementation of VPNaaS using StrongSwan. | 19:16 |
| pc_m | marun: For some point in time, we'll need to support both, though they cannot reside at the same time on a system | 19:16 |
| marun | pc_m: so it's a replacement strategy, not indefinite support of the old one. | 19:16 |
| marun | fair enough | 19:16 |
| pc_m | (only one can be install). | 19:16 |
| fungi | pc_m: so long term you would plan to probably migrate to strongswan and deprecate openswan i guess? | 19:16 |
| pc_m | installed | 19:16 |
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| pc_m | fungi: Yes. My understanding is that OpenSwan will not be installed in Ubuntu 14.10. | 19:17 |
| fungi | ahh | 19:17 |
| fungi | makes sense | 19:17 |
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| pc_m | So we have to migrate. I'm just struggling with how we'll do functional testing. | 19:17 |
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| pc_m | Zhang Hu has made a simple functional test for StrongSwan. There is nothing for OpenSwan at this time, | 19:18 |
| marun | pc_m: is there any reason there isn't common testing? | 19:18 |
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| pc_m | though there is work on creating a scenario test for OpenSwan (and could be used for Strongswan) | 19:18 |
| marun | pc_m: I would imagine that the high-level validation would be largely similar | 19:19 |
| pc_m | marun: OpenSwan and StrongSwan cannot be installed on a system at the same time. | 19:19 |
| marun | pc_m: that's not what i mean | 19:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Don't try to add an IP if there is one https://review.openstack.org/156088 | 19:19 |
| pc_m | marun: please elaborate | 19:19 |
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| marun | pc_m: can_create_vpn() should be a common test that varies only in the driver being used | 19:19 |
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| marun | pc_m: low-level validation, of course, won't be shared | 19:19 |
| marun | pc_m: I guess I'm talking about scenario testing though, you're talking at the driver level? | 19:20 |
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| marun | pc_m: as per your conversation with fungi, separating the driver-level testing so that it can run in separate tox jobs is the first step | 19:20 |
| pc_m | marun: The scenario test that is being developed is all high level calls, and yes can be common. This functional test is one of the device_driver. | 19:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make image processing work for v2 https://review.openstack.org/156247 | 19:21 |
| marun | pc_m: they you'll need separate functional jobs that perform the appropriate setup and trigger the right tox job | 19:21 |
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| pc_m | marun: right, fungi mentioned pre_test_hook | 19:21 |
| marun | fungi: I'm not sure it's pre-test-hook, tbh | 19:21 |
| marun | oops, meant that for pc_m | 19:21 |
| marun | pc_m: wouldn't it be a devstack-level configuration? | 19:22 |
| pc_m | marun: Well two things need to happen for StrongSwan test. | 19:22 |
| pc_m | local.conf needs to specify IPSEC_PACKAGE=strongswan | 19:22 |
| fungi | marun: pc_m: well, if the plan is to actually stand up a devstack that has a working strongswan or openswan or whatever service, yes | 19:23 |
| pc_m | And Apparmor needs to be disabled (or at least not enforce on charon and stroke processes). | 19:23 |
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| fungi | marun: pc_m: a devstack-gate pre_test_hook was proposed when the initial question was "how can i make sure apparmor is disabled before running devstack" | 19:23 |
| pc_m | marun: So to summarize... | 19:24 |
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| marun | fungi: the neutron* functional jobs already provide a gate hook, though. Is there a reason that operation couldn't be done there? | 19:24 |
| pc_m | marun: Need functional test of strongswan, separate from openswan (may create this as well, if it makes sense). | 19:24 |
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| pc_m | marun: Need to install strongswan and disable apparmor for the test. | 19:25 |
| pc_m | marun: Somehow, don't want the strongswan tests to run, if just running common/openswan tests | 19:25 |
| pc_m | marun: It sounds like we should have two jobs, each in a different area, with one testing common stuff, and one testing strongswan. | 19:26 |
| pc_m | marun: Would that be a reasonable approach? | 19:26 |
| fungi | pc_m: if it's more of a question of enabling/disabling relevant tests, then they should probably be opportunistic (like how nova unit tests only do mysql migration tests if there's a working mysql found) | 19:27 |
| marun | pc_m: that sounds reasonable. | 19:27 |
| marun | pc_m: so long as the two implementations cannot be installed simultaneously, separate jobs makes the most sense given our current infrastructure | 19:28 |
| fungi | pc_m: and if you work with the devstack devs to make sure that devstack can set up a working openswan or strongswan (including disabling apparmor if necessary) then it's probably something you can adjust from one or two environment variable exports at the job definition level (to enable vpnaas and set the backend implementation you intend to use) | 19:28 |
| marun | fungi: it has to be configgurable though... the opportunistic tests have a huge hole in that they can be skipped unintentionally if the configuration doesn't match their expectations | 19:28 |
| fungi | marun: agreed | 19:29 |
| marun | fungi: we've taken care in the neutron suite to set a flag that fails the jobs if config doesn't match expectations | 19:29 |
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| fungi | it's definitely easy to let bugs slip through that way | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Yichen Wang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add the docs-on-rtfd job to stackforge/vmtp https://review.openstack.org/156341 | 19:30 |
| marun | fungi: I should clarify, that's for non-db testing. We need to update oslo.db's test helpers to allow the desired behavior. | 19:30 |
| fungi | fun | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Don't try to add an IP if there is one https://review.openstack.org/156088 | 19:30 |
| marun | for some very small value of fun, yes :) | 19:31 |
| fungi | heh | 19:31 |
| marun | fungi: I have a question about d-g, would you have a moment? | 19:31 |
| fungi | for sarcastic values of fun | 19:31 |
| marun | sadistic values of fun? | 19:31 |
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| fungi | even better | 19:31 |
| marun | heh | 19:32 |
| mordred | pedantic versions of sadistic | 19:32 |
| fungi | marun: i can make a moment, though may or may not have good answers. let's see | 19:32 |
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| marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155957/ | 19:32 |
| marun | fungi: I've reduced the execution time of the neutron functional job from 20m to 10m | 19:32 |
| pc_m | marun: So, I should move forward with trying to do two jobs and different dirs? | 19:32 |
| marun | now 4-5m of the total seems to be about setup_workspace, the majority of which is syncing repos that the job doesn't use afaik | 19:32 |
| fungi | marun: that certainly qualifies as a significant savings | 19:33 |
| marun | I was hoping to be able to cut it down further (more time for tests!), but the reviews thus far suggest that limiting the repos that get updated to devstack and neutron might be problematic. | 19:33 |
| marun | fungi: I can't really see where the repos would be used given that we no longer use devstack to install anything more than rabbit and mysql. | 19:34 |
| marun | fungi: Am I missing something? | 19:34 |
| marun | pc_m: yes | 19:34 |
| fungi | marun: sdague's point is valid. i think that if we go this path we'd need to have some additional safeguards to identify places where we make overreaching assumptions (i wonder if we could trap access to repo cache paths we don't update?) | 19:35 |
| marun | fungi: What do you think about my adding a new job that only runs the setup (gate_hook) of the neutron functional job? | 19:36 |
| fungi | yeah, that seems like it might work--i'm still pondering | 19:36 |
| marun | fungi: ok | 19:36 |
| fungi | i have lazy holiday brain going on so will take me a few minutes | 19:36 |
| marun | fungi: No rush, really. I'm happy to let you ruminate as long as you need. | 19:37 |
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| pc_m | marun: ok. I can start to modify how that works. | 19:37 |
| fungi | also trying to think if there's another way we might be able to deal with the projects list variable in general | 19:37 |
| jogo | marun: did you see the nova skip-if patch had to be reverted | 19:37 |
| marun | jogo: I did not. What went wrong? | 19:38 |
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| marun | fungi: I was wondering if we couldn't separate the definition into 'mandatory' and 'optional' | 19:38 |
| pc_m | marun: We have the current job non-voting, was going to make voting, but sounds like I should modify the path first? | 19:38 |
| marun | fungi: where optional was related to the testing being done and mandatory was related to the infrastructure needed to run it | 19:38 |
| jogo | marun: https://review.openstack.org/156274 | 19:38 |
| marun | pc_m: I'd recommend that, yeah. | 19:39 |
| marun | jogo: ah | 19:39 |
| marun | jogo: When I was working on the feature I noticed that meta jobs are risky. | 19:39 |
| marun | jogo: their attributes are copied without any explicit consideration as to precedence | 19:40 |
| fungi | marun: i wonder if it should be more closely aligned to test-matrix.py, maybe some way to ask devstack "for this list of services what repos are you going to require" | 19:40 |
| marun | fungi: The neutron functional job bypasses that altogether, though. | 19:41 |
| marun | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tools/configure_for_func_testing.sh | 19:42 |
| jogo | marun: yeah any ideas on how to resolve this for nova? | 19:42 |
| fungi | marun: so doesn't even pass in neutron as an enabled devstack service i guess? | 19:42 |
| jogo | marun: I haven't dug in yet | 19:42 |
| marun | fungi: we no longer invoke devstack at all | 19:42 |
| marun | fungi: it's all bash function calls and we set the variables like ENABLED_SERVICES locally | 19:43 |
| marun | fungi: so, e.g. rabbit gets installed like this: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tools/configure_for_func_testing.sh#L96 | 19:43 |
| fungi | marun: got it. so you're really just reusing some of the functions defined in devstack i guess | 19:43 |
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| marun | fungi: correct. | 19:43 |
| fungi | and some of its data | 19:43 |
| marun | fungi: we really only need it to install os packages and the distro-specific fixup around them | 19:44 |
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| marun | fungi: I do have some concerns about how I'm approaching this, tbh. Using a tox env to run the tests means that always targeting packaged releases. I'm not sure of the implications, i.e if we should be installing from repos into the venv in some instances. | 19:47 |
| marun | fungi: Is there even infrastructure to support that? | 19:47 |
| fungi | marun: that being the case, i think as long as we make this so that it only copies projects listed in $PROJECTS into /opt/stack/new so that it will break if it tries to use a project which didn't get updated, 155957 is likely fairly safe | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Yichen Wang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add the docs-on-rtfd job to stackforge/vmtp https://review.openstack.org/156341 | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Switch from mysql-python to PyMySQL https://review.openstack.org/152339 | 19:49 |
| fungi | marun: at this point most of our client libraries are tested against release versions of their dependencies to make sure they work with the actually released versions of things. we've scaled back from coinstalling multiple projects from git in the same job, though sdague can probably tell you more of the specifics | 19:49 |
| marun | fungi: ok, I'll take a look as to where that is done. | 19:49 |
| marun | fungi: ok, I'll follow up with him. | 19:49 |
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| marun | fungi: aren't the projects already present in /opt/stack/new on the node image though? | 19:50 |
| marun | fungi: I thought setup_project was just making sure each project was fresh since the last snapshot | 19:51 |
| fungi | marun: hrm, checking. i thought they were only in /opt/git | 19:51 |
| fungi | marun: and then devstack-gate uses rsync to copy specific ones into /opt/stack/new | 19:51 |
| fungi | double-checking my recollection now | 19:51 |
| marun | fungi: oh, I think you're right | 19:51 |
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| fungi | marun: yeah, see function setup_workspace in functions.sh | 19:52 |
| marun | fungi: ok | 19:52 |
| fungi | marun: looks like it already does what we want there | 19:52 |
| fungi | for PROJECT in $PROJECTS | 19:52 |
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| fungi | marun: so i think what sdague and and ianw are concerned about in their comments is pretty easily tested | 19:53 |
| marun | fungi: what would you suggest? Would it be enough to add that setup-only job? | 19:54 |
| fungi | that is, if the $PROJECTS list is too small, the job will fail rather than using outdated git clones | 19:54 |
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| marun | fungi: ah, ok. Because the repos won't be in /opt/stack/new as expected. | 19:55 |
| fungi | marun: well, the risk here i think is that if you update an existing voting job with a DEVSTACK_GATE_PROJECTS_OVERRIDE and don't add the bare minimum required projects, the job will start failing | 19:55 |
| fungi | so depends on how much you want to mitigate that | 19:55 |
| fungi | i'd be fine with "oops, please revert that job configuration change" | 19:56 |
| marun | fungi: I think I'd be ok with that, too. | 19:56 |
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| marun | fungi: I would like to see the ability to trigger a given job on-demand for the project-config repo to be able to avoid committing invalid changes. | 19:56 |
| marun | fungi: I remember hearing from clarkb that being able to trigger things dynamically was not desirable if it would increase the size of the comment grammar though. :/ | 19:57 |
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| fungi | i think we'd like for there to be a way to conveniently test-drive job changes, but we don't have one right now and it would likely be nontrivial to implement | 19:59 |
| fungi | at least to implement in an automated/introspective fashion | 19:59 |
| marun | fungi: fair enough. I'll keep it in the back of my mind, though, in case I end up learning enough to tackle it. | 19:59 |
| clarkb | the trouble is jenkins | 19:59 |
| clarkb | kill jenkins and this gets better | 19:59 |
| fungi | right, i agree | 20:00 |
| marun | doesn't killing jenkins mean we have to go our own way wrt reporting for periodic jobs? | 20:00 |
| fungi | marun: nah, zuul already does the periodic job scheduling and reporting | 20:01 |
| clarkb | no zuul already handles that for us | 20:01 |
| fungi | marun: admittedly right now it's just via e-mail, so there is room for possible improvement on that front | 20:01 |
| marun | fungi: I guess what I mean is reporting over time. | 20:02 |
| fungi | i think the proposed solution involved someone writing a database reporter for zuul | 20:02 |
| marun | fungi: periodic jobs might be low-volume enough that we need a month of data to see a trend | 20:02 |
| marun | fungi: that's kind of what I meant - we'd have to duplicate behavior that the jenkins community already has | 20:02 |
| fungi | we _do_ have general job completion stats for them in graphite though | 20:02 |
| marun | fungi: I'm not saying it's not worth it, just that going our own way does have costs. | 20:02 |
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| fungi | marun: well, right now the jenkins webui isn't really useful for looking at those trends either so i hope nobody's trying to use it for that | 20:03 |
| * marun shakes fist at jenkins for not doing what we need | 20:03 | |
| marun | fungi: Likely not, given that periodic jobs aren't on many folks radar. | 20:03 |
| marun | (yet) | 20:03 |
| fungi | the jobs get run workers assigned to arbitrary jenkins masters, of which there are 7 currently handling general jobs | 20:04 |
| fungi | so any trending of those "in jenkins" is currently disjoint across those discrete masters | 20:04 |
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| marun | fungi: ah, fair enough. | 20:04 |
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| fungi | zuul is the only component which has a view across the jenkins masters of what's going on, so trending would need to filter through there regardless (whether built into zuul or listening to gearman like logstash does) | 20:05 |
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| marun | fungi: Do you know if there is an issue tracking the need for db reporting in storyboard? | 20:07 |
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| fungi | marun: maybe but if so it would probably be tied to an infra spec | 20:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Switch from mysql-python to PyMySQL https://review.openstack.org/152339 | 20:09 |
| marun | fungi: spec in storyboard? | 20:10 |
| marun | fungi: oh, you mean spec repo | 20:10 |
| marun | fungi: sorry | 20:10 |
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| fungi | marun: yeah, i looked at the currently approved specs as well as the proposed specs and don't see one which looks relevant yet, so probably nobody's fleshed out the idea | 20:11 |
| fungi | looking through the zuul stories now to see if there are any related on the wishlist | 20:13 |
| marun | fungi: probably not a priority for this cycle, tbh. But I think we'll need it when we start to ease away from co-gating and think about relying on period post-merge stability jobs. | 20:13 |
| marun | period -> periodic | 20:13 |
| fungi | marun: agreed. i believe the general idea was to have a dashboard for them, but to do that we'd need something (zuul) reporting more salient details into a repository (probably a trove database) that could be queried by that dashboard | 20:14 |
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| marun | fungi: that sounds like a considerable amount of work. Definitely not something to approach before we need it. | 20:16 |
| fungi | not seeing any obvious candidates at https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/679 either. i vaguely recall it got noodled on in paris during the friday working session | 20:16 |
| fungi | it probably wouldn't be crazy amounts of work, but would likely be at least a few weeks of someone's time | 20:17 |
| rhe00_ | nodepool question: is it possible to configure nodepool not to look for a floating ip pool? I don't have the pool option specified in my yaml file but nodepool still fails to launch nodes because it can't find a floating ip pool. | 20:17 |
| fungi | rhe00_: interesting. we use it with providers (rackspace) who don't have floating ips at all | 20:17 |
| rhe00_ | it is looking for a floating ip pool called 'pool' | 20:19 |
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| rhe00_ | I am using two flat neutron external networks for external and data networks, so I don't need floating ips | 20:21 |
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| fungi | rhe00_: interesting. i know we use neutron with floating ips in hpcloud and no neutron with no floating ips in rackspace, so it's possible there's something about the way the neutron support is implemented that it assumes floating ips? | 20:22 |
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| mordred | I believe it may be in the detection code | 20:23 |
| mordred | that detects which thing it should do | 20:23 |
| mordred | we do not have access to any clouds that are structured like you describe | 20:23 |
| mordred | iirc, the logic aroudn that (I can look in just a sec) will incorrectly detect the situation | 20:23 |
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| mordred | this, btw, is completely ridiculous | 20:24 |
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| mordred | and openstack has made this WAY too hard | 20:24 |
| fungi | i still say openstack has given deployers too much flexibility | 20:24 |
| mordred | well, that without any sort of centrally discoverable capabilities mechanism | 20:25 |
| mordred | rhe00_: in any case - I'm hacking on some code in that area that's still a few weeks out but which should make it easier to sort out what's going on for you and fix it | 20:25 |
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| rhe00_ | this is for my ci so I need to figure out a workaround of some sort | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add test job for sheepdog devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/154605 | 20:28 |
| fungi | rhe00_: do you control the nova configuration in that cloud? maybe adding a very small (1 address?) fip pool could work around it | 20:28 |
| ilyashakhat | fungi: hi! i've recently published project 'shaker' on stackforge, could you please add me into shaker-core and shaker-release groups? | 20:29 |
| fungi | ilyashakhat: sure, doing it now | 20:29 |
| ilyashakhat | thanks! | 20:29 |
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| mordred | rhe00_: ip = server.get('public_v4') | 20:30 |
| mordred | if not ip and self.manager.hasExtension('os-floating-ips'): | 20:30 |
| mordred | ip = self.manager.addPublicIP(server_id, | 20:30 |
| mordred | pool=self.provider.pool) | 20:30 |
| mordred | that's the relevant code | 20:30 |
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| fungi | ilyashakhat: done | 20:30 |
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| mordred | rhe00_: it's trying to add a floating-ip because it could not find a public_v4 address | 20:30 |
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| rhe00_ | fungi: I have full control over the steup, so I can hack away. :) | 20:31 |
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| mordred | rhe00_: yay! | 20:31 |
| mordred | rhe00_: so - I'd honestly look to see why you're not getting a public_v4 address back in your nova server dict | 20:31 |
| fungi | rhe00_: well, what mordred's pointing to may imply that you just need to label the interfaces appropriately | 20:32 |
| rhe00_ | yeah, that's what I will look at next. | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Reorder py27 test to happen after py3 tests https://review.openstack.org/155161 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-gsoc to accessbot https://review.openstack.org/156331 | 20:40 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Use python3 compatible httpclient https://review.openstack.org/155139 | 20:41 |
| mordred | fungi: least favorite message from openstack cloud "No valid host was found. Exceeded max scheduling attempts 3 for instance 7af4974d-82e9-4c0b-8bc0-68efbc0f9b34" | 20:41 |
| mordred | fungi: what, pray-tell, am I supposed to do about that? | 20:42 |
| mordred | I'm not 100% sure if that's because the cloud is overloaded, or there is something wrong with the image I uploaded | 20:42 |
| mordred | :( | 20:42 |
| fungi | mordred: go out drinking, try again later | 20:42 |
| fungi | mordred: we get that from hpcloud semi-regularly | 20:42 |
| mordred | fungi: awesome | 20:42 |
| fungi | it seems to mean "i think your quota says you should be able to have this, but we've oversubscribed and can't actually give you what you want right now" | 20:43 |
| greghaynes | mordred: clearly the fix is to increast max scheduler attempts, because WCPGW | 20:43 |
| * mordred stabs greghaynes | 20:43 | |
| greghaynes | (we might have actually worked around some nova scheduler + heat bugs that way) | 20:44 |
| * mordred hands greghaynes a bandaid | 20:44 | |
| mordred | greghaynes: but you had control over your cloud ... | 20:44 |
| greghaynes | ah, right. that | 20:44 |
| fungi | control is merely an illusion | 20:44 |
| mordred | I'm coming more and more to the belief that at no point was openstack designed for people to use who do not also have control over the cloud's operation | 20:44 |
| mordred | and that the idea of public clouds is nonsense | 20:44 |
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| * fungi is presently learning way more than he ever wanted to know about postgresql | 20:45 | |
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| fungi | which is surprisingly little | 20:45 |
| mordred | fungi: why, might I ask, are you doing such a silly thing? | 20:45 |
| greghaynes | Way to point out the elephant in the room | 20:45 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I like pointing at elephants | 20:46 |
| fungi | mordred: so that nodepool/dib doesn't doing that same silly thing | 20:46 |
| mordred | fungi: oh - the - you know - that thing | 20:46 |
| mordred | awesome | 20:46 |
| mordred | enjoy | 20:46 |
| * fungi types some more random words that almost sentence | 20:46 | |
| * dstufft like PostgreSQL | 20:46 | |
| fungi | dstufft: i should have made it clearer that my spite extends to databases in general. i'm an equal opportunity complainer | 20:47 |
| dstufft | fabo: ;) | 20:47 |
| dstufft | er | 20:47 |
| dstufft | fungi: | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable non-voting keystoneclient functional tests https://review.openstack.org/156123 | 21:51 |
| sdague | jeblair: ok, gotcha. Didn't realize it wasn't ready for prime time yet | 21:54 |
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| gordc | mriedem: cool if i close this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1420433 | 21:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1420433 in Ceilometer "gate-ceilometer-python34 fails with "NameError: name 'execfile' is not defined" in happybase setup (stable/juno only)" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make image processing work for v2 https://review.openstack.org/156247 | 21:56 |
| mriedem | gordc: it would be if i didn't just close it :) | 21:56 |
| mriedem | gordc: thanks for reminding | 21:57 |
| gordc | mriedem: :) | 21:57 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 22:08 |
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| stevebaker | hey, can someone point me at the repos for diskimage-builder building test node images? | 22:15 |
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| fungi | stevebaker: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/elements | 22:18 |
| stevebaker | fungi: thanks | 22:18 |
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| sdague | fungi or clarkb - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155994/ viewing the keystone logs requires that patch | 22:19 |
| fungi | stevebaker: at least that's the data which tells dib how we want it set up. the lists of elements to call as entry points are specified at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb#n956 | 22:19 |
| clarkb | stevbaker there is a build image script in the tools/ dir of that repo too | 22:20 |
| clarkb | that should if run without any other args give you a working trusty image | 22:20 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, +1 on that fix for keystone logs | 22:20 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague, it's easy to fix log format in devstack, but either side the fix is sane | 22:20 |
| clarkb | heh microseconds are accurate? | 22:21 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, within the scope of a single CPU context iirc | 22:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: let the date field include µS https://review.openstack.org/155994 | 22:21 |
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| fungi | and now it's live | 22:22 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg ya but by the time you render the string seems like it would be wrong | 22:22 |
| fungi | well, will be once puppet rolls it out anyway | 22:22 |
| stevebaker | fungi, clarkb: So I'm going to have another crack at getting heat functional testing using a custom image which has the latest checkout of the agents (os-collect-config, etc) | 22:22 |
| fungi | stevebaker: any reason why that needs to be a custom image? | 22:23 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, we use µs in keystone as a way to help uniquely identify stuff, i think the µs in logs were a result of that at one point / or it might have also been the only subsecond option in apache when i looked initially | 22:23 |
| fungi | stevebaker: can't you just have the job do that part? | 22:23 |
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| fungi | stevebaker: or are you talking about having the job build the image? i'm probably confused as to which image we're talking about in this metametacontext | 22:24 |
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| stevebaker | this time I'm going to propose that a generic base image be built which is set up for pip+gcc. The image build is manual, not in a job. | 22:25 |
| stevebaker | fungi: this is the image that heat tests use when tests boot VMs. We have agent code which really needs testing too | 22:26 |
| fungi | stevebaker: okay so not the worker image from which the worker instance is booted, but rather an image used by heat to boot some nested virtual machine therein | 22:26 |
| stevebaker | fungi: correct | 22:26 |
| stevebaker | but its infra-building-images, so I was going to copy the pattern of nodepool/elements | 22:27 |
| stevebaker | in a test there is boot config which pip installs the required agent code. devstack is already set up to build a pip mirror of agent projects so the vm pip can be pointed at that | 22:28 |
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| fungi | yep, this is replacing that terribly huge fedora image devstack has us downloading, hopefully? | 22:30 |
| stevebaker | fungi: yes, with a terribly huge custom fedora image cached on an infra server somewhere, ideally only loaded for heat function test job | 22:31 |
| clarkb | there isnt a pip mirror set up by devstack | 22:31 |
| fungi | stevebaker: clarkb is right. devstack gets fed a tree of cached git repos, and has access to pip mirrors in each of the regions where we run | 22:32 |
| stevebaker | it does for the agent projects I'm talking about, from previous heat testing efforts https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/dib#L53 | 22:33 |
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| fungi | oh! i never knew that was in there | 22:34 |
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| clarkb | not sure what problem that solves though | 22:35 |
| stevebaker | yeah, I use it for building images locally | 22:35 |
| stevebaker | clarkb: it allows CI on agent projects by running heat functional/integration tests | 22:35 |
| boris-42 | fungi: hi there | 22:35 |
| clarkb | stevebaker I am not making that leap | 22:35 |
| boris-42 | fungi: recently we add new rally-ci group: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154532/ | 22:36 |
| boris-42 | fungi: could you please add me to it?) | 22:36 |
| clarkb | stevebaker do ci based on git so everything is up to date and tested properly | 22:36 |
| clarkb | a local pip mirror like that on an image will just be stale | 22:36 |
| fungi | boris-42: the way those ci-groups usually work for other projects is that the group contains the accounts of the external ci systems, but is set owned by a ptl group for the project which contains the ptl and possibly their delegates if any | 22:37 |
| clarkb | stevebaker how is the mirror used for CI? | 22:37 |
| stevebaker | clarkb: the local pip mirror is serving pip packages which were build from devstack git checkouts https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/heat#L300 | 22:38 |
| boris-42 | fungi: so but I am PTL of Rally=) | 22:38 |
| boris-42 | fungi: and at this point nobody is in that group=) | 22:38 |
| fungi | boris-42: do you want it owned by a new rally-ptl group i add you to, or do you want it owned by rally-core? | 22:38 |
| fungi | boris-42: unfortunately the way gerrit works, only groups can own groups, accounts can not own groups | 22:38 |
| boris-42 | fungi: rally-ptl seems better if it is not hard | 22:38 |
| fungi | not hard at all, adding it now | 22:38 |
| boris-42 | fungi: thank you | 22:39 |
| stevebaker | clarkb: and when the test vm boots it is told to pip install the agents, configured to use the devstack pip mirror (as well as default ones) | 22:39 |
| fungi | boris-42: all done. you should have control over the rally-ci group now | 22:40 |
| clarkb | stevebaker I see so the agents arent baked into the image | 22:40 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: hm I see here rally-ptl https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/group-memberships | 22:40 |
| stevebaker | clarkb: its a fairly generic base image which has the prerequisites for pip building (pip, gcc *-devel) | 22:40 |
| boris-42 | fungi: but not rally-ci | 22:40 |
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| clarkb | stevebaker gotcha | 22:41 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: or I should add rally-ci to rally-ptl?) | 22:41 |
| stevebaker | clarkb: hence the manual, infrequent image building | 22:42 |
| boris-42 | fungi: uh no seems something strange=) | 22:42 |
| clarkb | boris-42 its an ownership setting not membersip | 22:43 |
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| boris-42 | clarkb: so the thing that I was trying to do is to get ability to add to rally-ci members | 22:47 |
| boris-42 | clarkb: so our ci system will get voting stuff | 22:47 |
| fungi | boris-42: you, as a member of the rally-ptl group, should have the ability to add and remove members from the rally-ci group | 22:47 |
| fungi | boris-42: because the rally-ci group is set as owned by the rally-ptl group | 22:47 |
| boris-42 | fungi: but I don't see it on the list (i see only rally-ptl and rally-core) | 22:47 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: is it ok? | 22:48 |
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| fungi | boris-42: if you go to https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/ and put "rally" in the filter box, you don't see rally-ci? | 22:49 |
| boris-42 | fungi: ah I see | 22:49 |
| boris-42 | fungi: I was looking for it on wrong place | 22:49 |
| boris-42 | fungi: thank you for help | 22:50 |
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| fungi | boris-42: you're welcome! | 22:51 |
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| notmyname | mordred: I found it! | 23:01 |
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| mordred | notmyname: woot! | 23:01 |
| mordred | notmyname: I forget what you were looking for ... | 23:01 |
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| notmyname | IBM is hiring someone with 5+ years running swift at scale | 23:01 |
| notmyname | http://searchamericanjobs.com/display-job/29898533/SoftLayer-OpenStack-Swift-Lead-Architect.html | 23:01 |
| mordred | notmyname: so they want to hire ... you? | 23:02 |
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| mordred | notmyname: that's brilliant | 23:02 |
| notmyname | mordred: actually I think that would be about 4 ops guys at RAX. who could only have about 4.5 years experience with swift in prod at this point | 23:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [rally] Only PTL should be able to push tags https://review.openstack.org/156409 | 23:03 |
| notmyname | mordred: first actual think I've seen online that has a 5+ year openstack requirement | 23:03 |
| notmyname | *thing | 23:03 |
| mordred | notmyname: I thnk that means we've succeeded | 23:03 |
| notmyname | requirement/preferred. whatever | 23:03 |
| notmyname | mordred: no kidding :-) | 23:03 |
| mordred | notmyname: "mission accomplished!" | 23:03 |
| notmyname | mordred: maybe I should do the DHH thing and submit something with "all of them" under "years of experience with swift" | 23:04 |
| mordred | heh | 23:04 |
| notmyname | anyway. I fugured you'd get a kick out of that :-) | 23:05 |
| mordred | notmyname: yah. it's taking all of my willpower to not tweet that right now | 23:05 |
| notmyname | I should probably stop talking then. I'd only encourage you ;-) | 23:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Return extra information for debugging on failures https://review.openstack.org/156411 | 23:08 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151384/ It works nice! | 23:09 |
| boris-42 | fungi: thank you one more time=) | 23:09 |
| mordred | fungi: well, I now have two playbooks, one creates and uploads an image to rax, one to hp | 23:09 |
| mordred | fungi: they are MOSTLY the same | 23:09 |
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| mordred | fungi: with the exception of the "please translate this image to vhd format" for rax | 23:09 |
| mordred | which I'm hoping I can figure out with greghaynes how to get into dib itself | 23:09 |
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| clarkb | mordred where are we on ansible puppet race fix? | 23:10 |
| fungi | mordred: can't you just tell him to fix it and take the evening off? | 23:11 |
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| clarkb | fungi it is an evening off ;) | 23:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: next on my list - I needed to clear the above stuff off my plate so I could get some stuff merged upstream before delaying too much longer | 23:11 |
| fungi | indeed ;) | 23:12 |
| mordred | clarkb: too many spinning plates, none were getting finished | 23:12 |
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| clarkb | fungi burgers and beers for our presidents or something like that | 23:14 |
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| fungi | show me a president who didn't like burgers and beer and i'll show you a president who wasn't a _true_ patriot | 23:15 |
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| mordred | fungi: millard fillmore? | 23:16 |
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| tchaypo | adam_g: so to answer my first question - http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-stable-maint | 23:21 |
| mordred | tchaypo: was your first question "what's another mailing list I could subscribe to?"? | 23:22 |
| adam_g | tchaypo, that used to be a low traffic list for the team to use but has since turned into a place for the bot to post failures of daily periodic jobs | 23:22 |
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| tchaypo | mordred: yes | 23:24 |
| tchaypo | adam_g: and I see that conversation instead happens on the main list with [stable] as the tag | 23:25 |
| tchaypo | so I’ll filter for both of those | 23:25 |
| adam_g | tchaypo, yup | 23:25 |
| adam_g | tchaypo, theres also #openstack-stable, which is also lightly used. #openstack-qa is a better place to stay up to date on whats going on wrt gate issues | 23:25 |
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| tchaypo | Thanks. I might take this conversation to -stable then? | 23:27 |
| adam_g | tchaypo, okay. | 23:27 |
| adam_g | :) | 23:27 |
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| gmann | sdague: ping | 23:35 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: ack | 23:37 |
| anteaya | pleia2: congratulations! http://www.redhat.com/en/about/women-in-open-source | 23:37 |
| anteaya | \o/ | 23:37 |
| gmann | sdague: need help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151564/ | 23:37 |
| jesusaurus | pleia2: oh, awesome! congrats! | 23:39 |
| fungi | someone in that list has more years of experience than the other four | 23:40 |
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| dmsimard | lol :/ The URL for one of our sessions is "/test" https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/test | 23:43 |
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| fungi | dmsimard: the complaints desk is thataway -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+filebug ;) | 23:53 |
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| fungi | but i agree, that's pretty amusing | 23:54 |
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| tchaypo | jogo: I think I heard you say something about one of the difficulties with stable-maint being a lack of tooling | 23:57 |
| tchaypo | jogo: can you expand on what you think is needed? | 23:57 |
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