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| yolanda | morning | 07:19 |
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| vhejral | hello, I would like to ask you about jenkins configuration specific issue - I would like to configure jenkins job to be retriggered on specific words for recheck; currently I use "Triggger on - Comments added contains regexp" but I am unable to specify there start of the line (^ is not working), my string is "^blabla recheck" , tried quotes, single quotes, without quotes, no success, only pure "blabla recheck" works, any hi | 07:53 |
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| jordanP | vhejral, we have (?i)^(Patch Set [0-9]+:)?( [\w\\+-]*)*(\n\n)?\s*recheck(( (?:bug|lp)[\s#:]*(\d+))|( scality))\s*$ here | 08:07 |
| jordanP | it works | 08:08 |
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| vhejral | jordanP, thanks :) | 08:10 |
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| vhejral | jordanP: I reduced it into "(?i)^(bla recheck)$" without quotes, and it work for me only without ^sign, but thanks | 08:29 |
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| jordanP | vhejral, okay, good to know :) | 08:30 |
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| vhejral | jordanP: my gerrit trigger plugin version is 2.12.0, jenkins 1.619; maybe an upgrade will help to recognize ^sign as comment start | 08:33 |
| jordanP | vhejral, I remembered I had to use a snapshot-version/unreleased version of gerrit trigger | 08:34 |
| jordanP | ah no, sorry it was the jcloud plugin, nervermind | 08:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: (Re)add midonet tempest jobs https://review.openstack.org/230932 | 10:19 |
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| dguitarbite | hello, can I get some reviews on this PR? https://review.openstack.org/218345 | 10:24 |
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| dguitarbite | also https://review.openstack.org/218346 | 10:24 |
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| wznoinsk | mordred: good to hear it's doable, I'll get my head around the topic and we'll be able to help when you have it on the table, currently I feel bad 'rippin' (updating --mirror) all 800+ repos 1by1 during update | 10:28 |
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| romcheg | Hi guys | 12:52 |
| romcheg | A tag was pushed to gerrit but release jobs don't seem to have worked well https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=stackforge/python-fuelclient.git;a=tag;h=refs/tags/7.0 | 12:52 |
| romcheg | This is the tag | 12:52 |
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| romcheg | But the version of the package on PyPi is still the old one https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-fuelclient | 12:53 |
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| fungi | romcheg: i replied to a thread on the -infra ml last week with somewhat of a checklist for seeing what might be missing from the release toolchain for a given repo http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-September/003246.html | 12:56 |
| fungi | see if one of those is the issue. if not, i can take a look in a bit | 12:56 |
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| romcheg | fungi: /me looking | 12:56 |
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| romcheg | fungi: looks like I've found the issue | 12:57 |
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| anteaya | fungi: how are you doing today? | 12:58 |
| anteaya | fungi: are you in a boat? | 12:58 |
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| romcheg | fungi: Thanks! | 13:00 |
| fungi | romcheg: looks like it's item #3 on that checklist. you tagged 7.0 not 7.0.0 | 13:00 |
| romcheg | Yes, I've added an extra 0 and now it works. | 13:00 |
| fungi | so pbr created a wheel and sdist with 7.0.0 in the filename and then the upload script couldn't find it because it didn't match the tag | 13:00 |
| fungi | anteaya: nope, we didn't end up with any flooding. most of the damage has been from 10m waves breaking on the other side of the island. the road has washed away in a few places | 13:01 |
| romcheg | that explains | 13:01 |
| anteaya | fungi: yay no flooding! | 13:01 |
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| anteaya | and if a bit of road repair is in order that is very mild indeed | 13:02 |
| anteaya | glad to hear you are okay | 13:02 |
| fungi | after the flood watch expires tonight i get to carry stuff back down to the ground floor | 13:02 |
| fungi | thanks! | 13:02 |
| anteaya | wooo, more carrying stuff | 13:02 |
| anteaya | dry stuff though to dry locations | 13:02 |
| anteaya | yay | 13:02 |
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| fungi | part of me wishes we'd gotten some flooding just so that all this schlepping junk up and down the stairs would have been worth it | 13:03 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 13:03 |
| anteaya | still that part of you down and have it review mould growth | 13:03 |
| anteaya | s/still/sit | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-bgpvpn: add devstack job https://review.openstack.org/230358 | 13:06 |
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| zigo | Is there something wrong with review.openstack.org? It takes forever for my browser to load a code review... :( | 13:11 |
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| sdague | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230956/ is mostly a comment change after doing some post mortem on things yesterday | 13:12 |
| sdague | sorry, on friday, so that we know the right way to do this next time (which we did this time, but by accident) | 13:12 |
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| zigo | working now ... | 13:14 |
| sdague | zigo: gerrit leaks memory over time | 13:14 |
| zigo | Ah, thanks. | 13:15 |
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| anteaya | one down, contractor will replace stones they took from me that they didn't use at my neighbours and won't be invoicing her for the ones they did use in her job | 13:26 |
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| bltavares | good morning folks. I'm very happy to see me first contributions merged! Thank you all (: | 13:29 |
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| anteaya | just looked at cacti for review.o.o and while load is increasing it is consistent with other mondays | 13:30 |
| anteaya | bltavares: congratulations | 13:31 |
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| pabelanger | morning! planning on adding tox -egrafyaml (non-voting) to project-config this morning! Validation is finally working :) | 13:36 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: congratulations, has that job spend any time in experimental? | 13:38 |
| anteaya | fungi: you -2'd a magnetodb change I was wondering why you didn't abandon the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204478/ | 13:38 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: Ya, I plan to add it there to start | 13:38 |
| * anteaya is thinking she will abandon the patch | 13:39 | |
| anteaya | pabelanger: awesome, thank you | 13:39 |
| pabelanger | once our first dashboard has merged and job is show to be stabled I'll move it to voting | 13:39 |
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| anteaya | yeah that is fine | 13:39 |
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| anteaya | just finding that since we are asking (well at least _I_ am asking) other projects to evaluate the jogs on project config changes, that giving them a fighting chance to understand failure logs when they do happen is more likely to result in the behaviour I request | 13:40 |
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| anteaya | s/jogs/logs | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental grafyaml (non-voting) gate job https://review.openstack.org/230997 | 13:41 |
| anteaya | and having a job warm up in experimental helps this | 13:41 |
| anteaya | thank you | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafana dashboard for status.o.o/zuul https://review.openstack.org/224834 | 13:42 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: what do you mean when you say "Because we are planning on including grafyaml dashboards in | 13:42 |
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| pabelanger | np | 13:42 |
| anteaya | project-config | 13:42 |
| anteaya | in the commit message? | 13:42 |
| anteaya | who is we? | 13:42 |
| pabelanger | I tend to refer to -infra as we | 13:42 |
| pabelanger | over using me | 13:42 |
| anteaya | oh I must have missed this | 13:43 |
| anteaya | was this in a meeting or is there a spec? | 13:43 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: follow up patchset is the grafyaml bits | 13:43 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: well, we have the grafana dashboard spec that has been approved. | 13:43 |
| anteaya | oh you are adding a new view to status.o.o | 13:44 |
| pabelanger | no formal spec for grafyaml, I guess it was always implied. However, if people would like a spec, I can bring it up in tomorrows meetings and see what people thing | 13:44 |
| anteaya | okay I think I understand now | 13:44 |
| sdague | fungi: any chance we can get a gerrit restart? | 13:44 |
| anteaya | sdague: what are you seeing? | 13:44 |
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| sdague | terrible lag | 13:44 |
| anteaya | sdague: I jsut checked cacti and the graphs look like monday to me | 13:44 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: no I don't think we need a spec to add a new view to status | 13:45 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I just wasn't clear that was where the view was going | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Gordon proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Telco Working Group no longer alternates https://review.openstack.org/230999 | 13:47 |
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| sdague | anteaya: so I feel like http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=27&rra_id=all the monthly graph | 13:47 |
| sdague | shows that we go into this unresponsive state when gerrit plateaus at 16G memory | 13:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Builds and publishes Compute API Guide https://review.openstack.org/231000 | 13:48 |
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| anteaya | sdague: I'm willing to entertain that as an argument | 13:49 |
| anteaya | I would have to leave that to others with server access to respond | 13:49 |
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| fungi | sdague: ahh, yep, i'll restart it | 13:49 |
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| sdague | I think clarkb had another metric that exposed when gerrit was churning a bunch internally | 13:49 |
| sdague | but I don't know how / where to find that | 13:49 |
| fungi | there's a (somewhat insecure) java melody interface exposed to gerrit admins | 13:50 |
| fungi | which i'm looking at now | 13:50 |
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| fungi | the memory graphs for the system are expected to be a bit misleading since the jvm has its own memory management | 13:50 |
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| sdague | fungi: is there a way to feed it to cacti as a more secure model? | 13:51 |
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| fungi | that's a good question--i'm not sure the extent of the interfaces exposed by the melody plugin for gerrit. if it can act as a backend for a dynamic snmp oid them maybe | 13:51 |
| fungi | yeah, like we've seen in the past, the gerrit jvm is starting to spend more time in garbage collection (which may indicate some other performance hit slowing down garbage collection, not sure) | 13:52 |
| fungi | it's restarting now | 13:53 |
| Clint | i'm sure it'll be magically fixed by upgrading gerrit | 13:53 |
| anteaya | I'm not | 13:53 |
| ttx | hmm, Gerrit 503 | 13:53 |
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| fungi | #status notice Gerrit is being restarted to temporarily address performance problems | 13:53 |
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| ttx | ack | 13:54 |
| fungi | gah, we've lost statusbot | 13:54 |
| sdague | doh | 13:54 |
| ttx | haha | 13:54 |
| anteaya | great | 13:54 |
| anteaya | perhaps it left in the freenode cleanup? | 13:54 |
| fungi | that's always how i find out statusbot is mia | 13:54 |
| ttx | we need statusbot inception | 13:54 |
| Clint | monitor it with java melody | 13:54 |
| fungi | 2015-10-03 02:05:14 <-- openstackstatus (~openstack@eavesdrop.openstack.org) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 13:54 |
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| fungi | okay, that brought it back | 13:57 |
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| fungi | though at this point anyone who might have noticed errors hitting gerrit are almost certain to have noticed it's up again | 13:58 |
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| anteaya | fungi: well the statusbot does report to the wikipage and it might be useful as a log to see how often we restart | 13:59 |
| sdague | fungi: oh, nice, super speedy now | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Increate timeout for dogtag related barbican functional tests https://review.openstack.org/231004 | 13:59 |
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| anteaya | fungi: or is that caught in the server logs? | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Gordon proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Telco Working Group no longer alternates https://review.openstack.org/230999 | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Increase timeout for dogtag related barbican functional tests https://review.openstack.org/231004 | 14:01 |
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| AJaeger | project-config cores, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218345/ , please? I gave my +2 already - and the governance change is approved as well (just not merged, it depends on this one) | 14:02 |
| fungi | #status info Gerrit was restarted to temporarily address performance problems | 14:02 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: unknown command | 14:02 |
| fungi | #status note Gerrit was restarted to temporarily address performance problems | 14:02 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: unknown command | 14:02 |
| fungi | grr | 14:02 |
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| * fungi rtfms | 14:02 | |
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| fungi | #status log Gerrit was restarted to temporarily address performance problems | 14:03 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished logging | 14:03 |
| fungi | that's the one i wanted ;) | 14:03 |
| anteaya | :) | 14:03 |
| anteaya | third time lucky | 14:03 |
| anteaya | fungi: if you could add pabelanger's project-config job addition to your review queue, I'd appreciate it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230997/ | 14:04 |
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| fungi | can do | 14:05 |
| AJaeger | fungi, #status log does not send anything to other channels - is that intented? | 14:05 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: correct, it just logs it to the wiki page | 14:05 |
| AJaeger | fungi: Ah, ok. Didn't know about that keyword ;) | 14:06 |
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| fungi | i had noted that people were likely to have already figured out gerrit was back up and anteaya correctly pointed out that logging the action to the wiki page was still useful | 14:06 |
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| fungi | so i just did that rather than spam every channel | 14:06 |
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| * anteaya is grateful | 14:07 | |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I'm confused, what picks up the zuul-status.yaml file and publishes it to status.o.o? | 14:07 |
| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224834/6 | 14:07 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: that code does not exist yet. This week, I'll be adding puppet-grafyaml onto our grafana.o.o system to handle just that. | 14:09 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: can we note that in the commit message, please? | 14:09 |
| anteaya | right now it reads that it should be published, so I went looking | 14:10 |
| anteaya | or I read it as it should be published | 14:10 |
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| mordred | jeblair, clarkb: I've got one more patch coming that should get api call counts back down to reasonable. | 14:11 |
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| anteaya | mordred: morning | 14:12 |
| mordred | morning! | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/requirements: Adds pika RabbitMQ client library https://review.openstack.org/231013 | 14:13 |
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| pabelanger | anteaya: sure | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental grafyaml (non-voting) gate job https://review.openstack.org/230997 | 14:15 |
| jeblair | mordred: good morning; apparently i have so much backscroll to read i need to use eavesdrop. | 14:15 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: thanks | 14:16 |
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| mordred | jeblair: wow, that'll be fun | 14:18 |
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| mordred | jeblair: tl;dr - I think the current shade patches that are up are solid, but I still have one more to post to finish dealing with API counts | 14:18 |
| anteaya | morning jeblair | 14:19 |
| mordred | jeblair, Shrews: I'm working on splitting get_hostvars_from_server into two - half that should run every time create/get/list server happens, and half that is really only run by things like ansible inventory | 14:20 |
| mordred | specifically, for ansible inventory, we do introspection of flavors and images at the shade level to provide human readable names in the server dict ... this is not necessary to do every time | 14:20 |
| mordred | otoh - determining the network to use _is_ somehting that's important to do every time, and is hard - and we have code now to make sure it's always well cached at the shade level | 14:21 |
| jeblair | mordred: ah, that explains all of those calls | 14:21 |
| Shrews | mordred: working on reviewing those this morning | 14:21 |
| mordred | Shrews: sweet - thanks! | 14:22 |
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| mordred | jeblair, Shrews: I changed the nodepool depends-on to the tip of that stack, so the latest run of nodepool is using them | 14:22 |
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| jeblair | k, i think i'm caught up on scrollback; breakfast then i can review | 14:24 |
| Shrews | mordred: it's not nodepool that concerns me. it's how they work with umpteen different clouds | 14:24 |
| mordred | yah | 14:24 |
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| mordred | Shrews: totally | 14:24 |
| Shrews | the networking one scares me | 14:24 |
| mordred | Shrews: it's next on my todo list to get us a server dict for each cloud for a set of unit tests | 14:25 |
| mordred | Shrews: yes. it needs moar tested | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split get_hostvars_from_server into two https://review.openstack.org/231029 | 14:49 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i've looked at the shade code, what else needs doing? | 15:02 |
| jeblair | mordred: hrm, do we need shade to cache? | 15:03 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i just noticed you turned on caching in 226751 -- are we sure we want to turn on caching vs factoring out inefficiencies so we don't need to? | 15:04 |
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| jeblair | mordred: (since nodepool is in the unusual position of already internally caching everything that needs to be) | 15:05 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I don't think so ... I tried turning it on for the nodepool test, but I think once the network patch and the one I just did go in, nodepool caches appropriately already | 15:05 |
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| mordred | so we can treat that as a follow on | 15:05 |
| jeblair | mordred: ok cool -- what about getimage / listimage? | 15:06 |
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| jeblair | mordred: (yeah, and potentially eventually drop more of nodepools caching when we do that; happy for that to be a future thing) | 15:06 |
| mordred | also should be fine with the hostvars split | 15:06 |
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| mordred | one sec ... on phone ... back on laptop in 5 | 15:06 |
| jeblair | mordred: aren't we still issuing listimages when we poll for the status of a snapshot image? | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | dstufft: are you available to join us for the third party meeting in #openstack-meeting? | 15:13 |
| dstufft | what is a third party meeting | 15:13 |
| dstufft | but sure | 15:13 |
| dstufft | is it now? | 15:13 |
| anteaya | dstufft: some operators are seeing pypi timeout issues and are wondering if it is a pypi load issue | 15:13 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:13 |
| anteaya | the meeting for folks who operate third party ci systems | 15:13 |
| anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 15:14 |
| mrmartin | fungi, clarkb: if you have a 5 minutes, can I get an approve / review on those patches: https://review.openstack.org/226213 and https://review.openstack.org/226269 Both required to bring back ask-staging.o.o alive due a config brake change in upstream askbot code. | 15:15 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: 231048 is awesome. hopefully crinkle, nibalizer and our other puppet community people have some idea about how to get those pull requests mentioned in the commit message reviewed | 15:34 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: I hope so :) | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Avoid transcending /proc with find https://review.openstack.org/230448 | 15:54 |
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| ttx | fungi: got one case where the "tests all pass" triggered a regression, fyi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230334/ | 16:01 |
| ttx | As long as it's only irc-meetings we should be fine | 16:01 |
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| mordred | jeblair: so - we may need to do something with get/list - in the general case where we're uploading images I don't thnk it matters because we don't do it enough to be an API storm. | 16:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: HOWEVER - we do a getImage for each of the servers we launch | 16:02 |
| mordred | to get the ID | 16:02 |
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| mordred | and that seems like we might want to cache nodepool side for now until we can get shade caching done - or do a get passthrough method in shade | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Update required ironicclient version https://review.openstack.org/231070 | 16:03 |
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| mordred | jeblair: but I thinkn I'd like to make sure the current things do what we expect and then treat image get/list as the last thing on the plate | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Revert "Add Watcher Team meeting" https://review.openstack.org/231055 | 16:03 |
| fungi | ttx: yep, the jobs which used the specific builder macro which jjb broke were in most cases nonstandard sorts of jobs, so the sorts of regressions we're likely to see from it are hopefully corner cases | 16:04 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: so when you have an mtr to share wtih dstufft, to share away | 16:04 |
| ttx | fungi: yes, just mentioning it for history reasons :) | 16:05 |
| dstufft | mmedvede: also the source address for the machine | 16:05 |
| anteaya | s/to/do | 16:05 |
| fungi | ttx: thanks for the heads up | 16:05 |
| anteaya | dstufft: thanks for your help in the meeting | 16:05 |
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| dstufft | anteaya: np | 16:06 |
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| jeblair | mordred: where does the getimage happen? | 16:10 |
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| jeblair | mordred: isn't nodepool passing image_id to shade? | 16:11 |
| jeblair | mordred: (for the create server call you mentioned) | 16:11 |
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| mordred | jeblair: it is - but nodepool has to look up the image id to pass | 16:12 |
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| mordred | jeblair: becuase we configure images by name in nodepool | 16:12 |
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| mordred | jeblair: which means potentialy a getImage (or listImages) call per server launch - most of which are not needed. shade caching would take care of that, but we can also do app caching I'd imagine | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | mrmartin: fungi we'll look today | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | :) | 16:14 |
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| mordred | jeblair: oh! we already have app caching for create server image lookups | 16:15 |
| mordred | jeblair: in findImage | 16:15 |
| mordred | jeblair: so the patch did not remove that | 16:15 |
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| mordred | jeblair: which means the "let's not look up images for every server interaction" patch (and upcomign second one) should take care of the get/list issue | 16:15 |
| jeblair | mordred: also, i'm sticking with we should be passing the image id -- we have it in the local nodepool database :) | 16:15 |
| mordred | jeblair: if image_name: | 16:16 |
| mordred | image_id = self.findImage(image_name)['id'] | 16:16 |
| mrmartin | nibalizer: thnx. | 16:16 |
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| jeblair | mordred: yeah, that should only happen when we're creating a template vm (to create a snapshot image) | 16:16 |
| mordred | jeblair: nod | 16:16 |
| mordred | jeblair: k. that's fine then | 16:16 |
| jeblair | mordred: i'm okay with that doing a lookup, that only happens once a day | 16:16 |
| mordred | yup | 16:16 |
| mordred | not a problem at all | 16:16 |
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| jeblair | mordred: yeah, there are 3 calls to createServer, and only one of them passes image_naem, and that's in updateImage | 16:17 |
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| jeblair | so we're good there | 16:18 |
| jeblair | mordred: what's the "let's not look up images for every server interaction" patch ? | 16:18 |
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| mordred | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231029/ lays the groundwork | 16:18 |
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| mordred | jeblair: still need a patch to consume that | 16:18 |
| jeblair | mordred: ah, that one, gotcha | 16:19 |
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| jeblair | mordred: are you writing that or shall i? | 16:19 |
| mordred | jeblair: it's either a patch to make shade do that on every create/get/list server and remove the nodepool get_openstack_vars call - or a patch to replace get_openstack_vars with the new function | 16:19 |
| mordred | jeblair: do you have an opinion of which one of those we should do now? I kinda think the second version so it's just an update to the nodepool patch to use a different function call | 16:20 |
| mordred | which is the smallest change from what's there and tested now | 16:20 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i think the end-state should be that nodepool doesn't call anything special, but we also talked about that possibly not being a Bunch, etc., so may be a bigger api change. i'm okay with the second as a stepping stone, and we can make the step after more carefully. | 16:21 |
| jeblair | mordred: "the second" == change the func name | 16:21 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 16:22 |
| mordred | jeblair: that's what I was thinking | 16:22 |
| mordred | jeblair: maybe you make that change? I'm heading to dinner in about 30 minutes | 16:22 |
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| mmedvede | dstufft: not sure how much I can share. I can see some loss from two sessions with mtr https://paste.lugons.org/show/Xz9qHs5EoP8JVPTBjDOU/ | 16:23 |
| mordred | jeblair: and while you're at it - remove the cache thing I added to the nodepool devstack plugin - I think it's premature to do that just yet- again, it's a thing I want to do, but I'd like to do it carefully not rushed | 16:23 |
| jeblair | mordred: roger, bon appetit. | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/requirements: Use oslosphinx for doc build https://review.openstack.org/230944 | 16:24 |
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| greghaynes | didnt totally follow - but I really hope we dont have to rework stuff in nodepool and how it deals with images | 16:24 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: nope, no changes needed there | 16:24 |
| greghaynes | because that will make a ton of work for the gearman builders patch stack | 16:24 |
| greghaynes | sweet | 16:24 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I think after the last patch in the current stack lands, we need to cut a new shade and then make the nodepool patch depend on that shade version | 16:25 |
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| mordred | jeblair: also, I think Shrews is reviewing that stack currently | 16:25 |
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| pleia2 | good morning | 16:27 |
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| dstufft | mmedvede: can you mtr to 199.27.76.129 | 16:27 |
| dstufft | talking to Fastly again | 16:27 |
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| jeblair | mordred: nodepool doesn't call get_hostvars_from_server, it calls get_openstack_vars which calls that .... | 16:28 |
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| mordred | jeblair: yah. sorry, that's what I meant | 16:28 |
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| jeblair | mordred: do we want to have nodepool call shade.meta.get_hostvars_from_server, or make a new OpenStackCloud API method? | 16:29 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I'd be fine, since this is a stepping stone, with just having nodepool call meta.expand_server_vars(self._client, server) | 16:29 |
| mordred | jeblair: let's not make a new API method - I don't think it'll be useful once we have expant_server_vars plumbed through to all the server calls | 16:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: i'm assuming get_openstack_vars has an API contract that ansible uses, so we don't want to change that. | 16:29 |
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| mordred | jeblair: that's right | 16:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: okay, slightly deep reach into shade it is. | 16:29 |
| mordred | yah | 16:30 |
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| Shrews | mordred: is gate-dsvm-nodepool-src-shade the new nodepool-shade integration test? | 16:30 |
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| mordred | Shrews: yes. that runs nodepool with shade from master (or from proposed zuul changes) | 16:31 |
| Shrews | mordred: and even though it's non-voting, should we care that it failed on 231029? | 16:31 |
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| mordred | Shrews: maybe - it looks like something got stuck in a loop | 16:32 |
| mordred | which is weird, since there are NO logic changes in that | 16:32 |
| Shrews | i'll hold off on that change then | 16:32 |
| Shrews | and step out for lunch | 16:32 |
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| mmedvede | dstufft: http://paste.openstack.org/show/475352/, no loss | 16:33 |
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| jeblair | 2015-10-05 15:49:17.853 | WARNING: devstack run took > 20 minutes, this is a very slow node. | 16:33 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ah. | 16:34 |
| mordred | jeblair: maybe a receck is in order on that one then | 16:34 |
| jeblair | Shrews, mordred: yeah, i think a recheck would be good there, just for safety | 16:34 |
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| dstufft | mmedvede: thanks, apssed along to #fastly | 16:35 |
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| mmedvede | dstufft: thank you | 16:35 |
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| bltavares | Clint: hey, we noticed that you are fixing puppet-httpd on a patch and we saw some comments regarding tests. Would you like us to help with that? | 16:36 |
| Clint | bltavares: sure, if you want to | 16:36 |
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| bltavares | Clint: I think it would help if we get this changes in as well, so there is no much test rewriting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228604/ | 16:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental grafyaml gate job https://review.openstack.org/230997 | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Resolve subscriptions faster- do one GET per list https://review.openstack.org/223562 | 16:39 |
| mmedvede | asselin: to confirm, for your CI, you are using your own pypi mirror | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Align pyngus with oslo.messaging stable https://review.openstack.org/222679 | 16:40 |
| asselin | mmedvede, yes | 16:40 |
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| Clint | bltavares: i think jhesketh might like it better now | 16:40 |
| fungi | mmedvede: also bandersnatch makes it pretty easy as long as you have a server with ~200gb space to store a fully pypi mirror. we even have a puppet module to set it up | 16:42 |
| anteaya | morning pleia2 | 16:42 |
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| bltavares | Clint: cool. We'll create another patch on top of yours adding tests to proxy then, similar to the other (: | 16:42 |
| Clint | bltavares: cool | 16:42 |
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| mmedvede | fungi: actually was looking at bandersnatch and how it is used withing system-config | 16:43 |
| mmedvede | looks minimal | 16:44 |
| mmedvede | fungi: would go ahead and setup our local mirror. no better time than now with the timeouts today | 16:44 |
| AJaeger | anteaya, pleia2: Could either of you +2 this new project creation for the docs team, please? https://review.openstack.org/218345 | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: having a look now | 16:45 |
| AJaeger | thanks, pleia2 ! | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: and thanks for pushing to document the translations closure-for-release procedure and including me on the emails even though I'm not directly working on that bit | 16:46 |
| AJaeger | pleia2: Unfortunately it seems that we're often miscommunicating - that's why I'm so insisting on writing it up... | 16:46 |
| fungi | mmedvede: just expect it to take a _while_ to initially bootstrap the mirror (and you'll most likely want to disable the cron job temporarily and run it without a timeout wrapper for the day or so it takes to build) | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: https://github.com/dguitarbite/openstack-labs has a tag, do they want that? | 16:47 |
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| AJaeger | pleia2: Let me WIP the patch and you give a +2? Then I'll ask dguitarbite for it... | 16:47 |
| AJaeger | dguitarbite: are you around? | 16:48 |
| alivigni | zxiiro# Can you please review this change? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229100/ | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: will do | 16:48 |
| mmedvede | fungi: good to know, thank you. So I assume bandersnatch is not a caching mirror, which would have been nice | 16:48 |
| alivigni | zaro# you as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229100/ | 16:48 |
| AJaeger | That way I don't need to bother you for the review ;) | 16:48 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:48 | |
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| dstufft | mmedvede: devpi is a caching mirror | 16:49 |
| dstufft | it'll cache on demand | 16:50 |
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| dstufft | devpi does a lot omre than bandersnatch though, more moving parts and such | 16:50 |
| zxiiro | alivigni: Hey, sorry I'm on holidays and am away from my computer at the moment. Hopefully the other reviewers can take care of you. | 16:50 |
| dstufft | bandersnatch is dead simple cron job that spits out a directory full of files, host those files with your favorite web server | 16:51 |
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| alivigni | zxiiro# ah ok anyone else I can ping and get this committed if it passes their requirements? | 16:51 |
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| alivigni | Can I get a review please from someone? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229100/ | 16:51 |
| dstufft | at some point I should probably figure out a decent way to make a rsync capable mirroring for PyPI | 16:51 |
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| zxiiro | alivigni: seems like you got most of the core-reviewers already CC'd on your Gerrit | 16:52 |
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| alivigni | what is Darragh's handle on here so I can have him review it again | 16:52 |
| zxiiro | alivigni: he's pelix | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add delete command to CLI https://review.openstack.org/225228 | 16:52 |
| alivigni | thanks | 16:52 |
| jeblair | mordred: in https://review.openstack.org/185972 you removed one of the main features of nodepool's fakes -- running nodepoold in the foreground with a fake provider :( | 16:53 |
| mmedvede | dstufft: when I said "caching mirror", I meant that it only pulls a copy when someone requests it, so it would not make a complete mirror initially | 16:53 |
| anteaya | zxiiro: alivigni has a changeset on review.o.o | 16:53 |
| dstufft | mmedvede: yes, devpi does that | 16:53 |
| alivigni | pelix# can you review this change again please? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229100/ | 16:53 |
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| anteaya | zxiiro: there are other folks in channel running their own gerrit instance | 16:53 |
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| anteaya | zxiiro: I dont' think alivigni is one of them | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Optimize network finding https://review.openstack.org/230762 | 16:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: see comment about https://review.openstack.org/185972 | 16:53 |
| mordred | jeblair: I did not intend to do that | 16:53 |
| jeblair | mordred: yeah, i know, and i think i can add it back | 16:53 |
| dstufft | mmedvede: but like I said, devpi is a lot more complicated than bandersnatch, it's got a web app and a bunch of stuff and it has a lot more features than just a JIT cache | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add delete command to CLI https://review.openstack.org/225228 | 16:54 |
| pelix | alivigni: will do | 16:54 |
| zxiiro | anteaya: oh ok | 16:54 |
| alivigni | pelix# thanks very much! | 16:54 |
| mordred | jeblair: *phew* | 16:54 |
| dstufft | trade off between full cache and simpler deployment and JIT cache and more complex | 16:54 |
| anteaya | zxiiro: word choice makes a huge difference in this channel, thank you | 16:54 |
| zxiiro | anteaya: sorry about that | 16:54 |
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| anteaya | zxiiro: no no problem, thanks for understanding | 16:54 |
| jeblair | mordred: note that the .meta. change to nodepool is not simple, mostly because of non-trivial changes to nodepool's fakes. it would be simpler to add a new shade api method. not sure which is the best way to go yet. | 16:55 |
| anteaya | we have openstack developers, folks running their own infrastructure indpendent of openstack, folks running their own infrastructure that ties into openstack | 16:55 |
| anteaya | lots of different people | 16:55 |
| anteaya | hard to keep track of them all | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add delete command to CLI https://review.openstack.org/225228 | 16:56 |
| zxiiro | anteaya: I think alivigni is just trying to get some core JJB reviewers to review his patch. I'm unfortunately away from my PC and am on Holidays so was trying to let him know that I'm not ignoring him. Just not able to review at the current moment. | 16:57 |
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| mordred | jeblair: AH - well, totally happy to accept a new shade api call if we need one (we could also _ lead it so that it's there for us and for fakes but clear that it'll go away in a bit) | 16:57 |
| mordred | ok - /me has to afk | 16:57 |
| pelix | alivigni: I think you mis-understood what I meant by having just the defaults tested, I meant that it should be the minimum yaml without any settings to ensure that the defaults are set correct in the output without the user needing to set them, and then a more complete example | 16:57 |
| alivigni | zxiiro# thanks sorry to bother you on it I just wanted it to get more people look at it and hopefully get it submitted soon | 16:57 |
| zxiiro | alivigni: no worries it's entirely not your fault. You're being perfectly reasonable :) | 16:58 |
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| alivigni | pelix# I have one example with adding custom fields and one 002 that uses the defaults and just auth-token replaced | 16:59 |
| fungi | jeblair: oops, i totally missed that 185972 ceased allowing nodepoold to run with a fake provider | 16:59 |
| zxiiro | While I can do a bit of review on my phone, I'd rather not. Gerrit's interface isn't exactly wonderful on mobile :) | 16:59 |
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| alivigni | zxiiro# no worries I understand completely | 16:59 |
| pelix | alivigni: take a look at http://docs-draft.openstack.org/00/229100/8/check/gate-jenkins-job-builder-docs/797c50b//doc/build/html/scm.html#scm.openshift-img-streams | 16:59 |
| pelix | probably the default example just needs to be: | 17:00 |
| pelix | scm: | 17:00 |
| pelix | - openshift-img-streams: | 17:00 |
| alivigni | I tried that and it fails | 17:00 |
| pelix | in what way? | 17:00 |
| anteaya | zxiiro: yup I understand, kind of you to do so | 17:00 |
| pelix | oh, maybe strip the ':' from the end | 17:01 |
| alivigni | ok | 17:01 |
| pelix | but if it breaks the code it means the documented defaults/options don't work, if breaks use of the plugin, it means that one of optional is not | 17:01 |
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| mmedvede | dstufft: I would go with simpler, as long as I can get my hands on all the space | 17:01 |
| alivigni | pelix# ok let me try your theory | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Use the ipaddress library for ip calculations https://review.openstack.org/230763 | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Break out cmd testcases into seperate files https://review.openstack.org/231095 | 17:04 |
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| alivigni | pelix# I guess it is a required field just can be empty | 17:04 |
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| alivigni | pelix# I will verify with the plugin creator if it is required or optional | 17:09 |
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| alivigni | pelix# it is optional but I get the error AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get' | 17:13 |
| alivigni | should I be testing for auth-token? | 17:13 |
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| waynr | fungi: ping on the JJB 2.0 API spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182542 | 17:15 |
| fungi | waynr: yep, i'm back to reviewing those specs now before i approve them | 17:15 |
| anteaya | just getting around to reading the tc candidate statements, I had missed that jog0 is running | 17:15 |
| zaro | morning | 17:16 |
| anteaya | morning zaro | 17:16 |
| bltavares | morning zaro (: | 17:16 |
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| waynr | fungi: cool, just making sure it's on the radar ;) | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack-ansible-security repository https://review.openstack.org/229318 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Add standard code coverage configuration file https://review.openstack.org/231100 | 17:20 |
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| alivigni | pelix# So it is optional but I am not understanding it seems it needs at least auth-token there and there is no way to remove it even in the copyartifact examples it has optional values | 17:22 |
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| pelix | alivigni: I think that I think that shows we're not always testing the minimal defaults | 17:23 |
| alivigni | pelix# ok so how do I check if auth-token is not present I get the Nonetype error | 17:24 |
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| pelix | there aren't that many plugins that have all optional values, so can either check if data is None and return early after creating the initial tag, or if auth-token is actually required minimal example would include that with it specified as required | 17:25 |
| pelix | the find-bugs reporter might help here | 17:25 |
| alivigni | pelix# ok thanks I will check it | 17:26 |
| pelix | alivigni: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/00/229100/8/check/gate-jenkins-job-builder-docs/797c50b//doc/build/html/reporters.html#reporters.findbugs shows a very minimal example that should align with yours | 17:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Lee proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix default expansion in macros https://review.openstack.org/230613 | 17:27 |
| pelix | oddly enough, that seems to have no problem, so I wonder if you hit a formatting error in your example? | 17:27 |
| alivigni | pelix# so just to make sure the yaml would just be the heading for the builder and the rest gets filled in with defaults and since auth-token is optional it is just empty | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: enable integrations jobs for puppet-swift https://review.openstack.org/229432 | 17:27 |
| clee | pelix: I know that you said that applyDefaults was probably not the right place for this and that a refactor would be ideal, but I made the parameter-default-expansion code generic enough to handle all macros (publishers, triggers, builders, parameters, etc) | 17:28 |
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| clee | pelix: if you get a chance to take a look and provide some more feedback, I'd really appreciate it | 17:28 |
| pelix | clee: that's great, I saw it and meant to comment on it. see if waynr, zxiiro, and zaro might have some thoughts on it. | 17:29 |
| clee | pelix: also, fwiw, I think this has revealed an issue with one of the test documents | 17:29 |
| waynr | clee: I should comment in-line on that | 17:29 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: have you run into glean doing this http://paste.openstack.org/show/475358/ (using 209784) | 17:29 |
| waynr | clee: would you consider helping out with JJB 2.0 and implementing your change as part of the proposed macro refactor? | 17:30 |
| clee | .test/new/config/macros.yaml contains a line that has 'awk {print $NF}' | 17:30 |
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| clee | waynr: I'd be open to that, for sure | 17:30 |
| clee | (I believe the 'awk {print $NF}' should actually be 'awk {{print $NF}}' | 17:30 |
| clee | ) | 17:30 |
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| waynr | cool, i'll be happy to help answer questions about the code organization and what we have discussed up to this point the refactor should look like | 17:31 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: oo, so it looks like youre using the glean vlan patch? | 17:31 |
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| greghaynes | crinkle: I havent actually used that yet, so no I havent experienced it | 17:31 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: but, happy to help debug | 17:31 |
| waynr | I think the one proposal that has been put on the table is to set up a new entrypoint for macros | 17:31 |
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| pelix | clee: even if we need to move it around and/or create a dedicated method to keep the API clear I think it's a good improvement and definitely reduces the amount of text needed | 17:32 |
| clee | pelix: I hoped so! | 17:32 |
| clee | (for us at DreamHost, I think it'll end up helping us shave a few hundred lines of parameter-passing in our YAML files) | 17:32 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: they do want to keep that tag, can un-WIP and +A now | 17:32 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: yeah trying to use the vlan patch, seems like there's maybe a logic error in the write_debian_interfaces loop | 17:33 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: what does the config drive network json blob look like? | 17:33 |
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| crinkle | greghaynes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/475359/ | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Use metaprogramming to add additional url tests https://review.openstack.org/231109 | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Test config-validate command https://review.openstack.org/229650 | 17:35 |
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| AJaeger | pleia2: thanks, will do | 17:37 |
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| greghaynes | crinkle: theres a few annoying things I see there | 17:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Use 'https://' instead of 'git://' https://review.openstack.org/229703 | 17:39 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: not sure why the tests dont resemble that though... | 17:40 |
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| clee | huh. I'm getting this when I try to 'git review' on project-config: | 17:41 |
| clee | error: error: invalid protocol: wanted 'old new ref' | 17:41 |
| clee | oh. maybe because I did clone --depth=1... | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Lee proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Escape curly braces for awk arguments https://review.openstack.org/231112 | 17:41 |
| clee | there we go | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project training-labs https://review.openstack.org/218345 | 17:42 |
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| alivigni | pelix# I am closer so I can test to see if data is None but even with "" for auth-token in the code it only puts a trailing </authToken> any ideas | 17:46 |
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| crinkle | greghaynes: that might have been an old copy, rerunning | 17:48 |
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| anteaya | clee: what workflow are you following? | 17:49 |
| anteaya | clee: this is our infra manual with our supported workflow: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#starting-a-change | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: pyinotify does not work on windows or osx https://review.openstack.org/231118 | 17:50 |
| catherineD | fungi: Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ .. Is there a sample puppet that sets up access to trove? It would be nice if we can model after an existing patch .. | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Use metaprogramming to add additional url tests https://review.openstack.org/231109 | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Restore ability to run nodepoold with fakes https://review.openstack.org/231120 | 17:53 |
| fungi | catherineD: our puppet modules for etherpad_lite, grafana, groups, lodgeit, gerrit, storyboard and zanata are examples | 17:53 |
| catherineD | fungi: thank you! | 17:53 |
| fungi | catherineD: basically we just need to be able to feed in the database hostname from hiera, in addition to the password | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Use metaprogramming to add additional url tests https://review.openstack.org/231109 | 17:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, greghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/231120 gets us the ability to run nodepoold again, without breaking the tests. i think we can probably make inprovements, but at least now we can actually run nodepool without a cloud again. | 17:54 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, greghaynes: it's built on _top_ of the shade change because otherwise, omg, but i'm going to use it to further develop the shade change, so expect some upside-down changes there. | 17:54 |
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| fungi | krtaylor: mmedvede: on https://review.openstack.org/194437 it would have been nice to also discuss how and whether ci-watch.openstack.org can coexist with stackalytics.openstack.org/report/driverlog (currently http://stackalytics.com/report/driverlog since we haven't finished moving the service yet) | 17:59 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: so a lot of the if name == 'fake-*': do stuff else: do other stuff I removed when writing the testing becuase it was preventing us from hitting broken code in our tests | 17:59 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: If we want that as a user feature I think thats fine, but I think we shouldnt try and test that way | 18:00 |
| fungi | (er, ci-dashboard.openstack.org i meant) | 18:00 |
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| clee | anteaya: sorry, I wasn't following a particular workflow for this change. I cloned the repo with a copy/paste of a line from the jjb tools/run-compare-xml.sh, made my change, committed it, and tried to do 'git review' | 18:02 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: looks like the branching there is super small so not an issue for me now, but there were (and still are I think) some pretty large branches we cant easily cover in tests due to that pattern | 18:02 |
| clee | anteaya: I can redo this change on a topic branch if necessary. it's only a one-line fix. | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | oh I was wondering where you got --depth=1 from is all | 18:03 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: the network_info.json actually looks like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/475360/ | 18:03 |
| clee | anteaya: yeah, I probably should have removed that when I did the copy/paste of the 'git clone' line :) | 18:04 |
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| anteaya | clee: just suggesting that in cases where folks hit problems with their workflow using gerrit we do have a suggested workflow which we support | 18:04 |
| * clee nods | 18:04 | |
| anteaya | clee: well not if you ran it | 18:04 |
| anteaya | I'm trying to help you not shoot yourself in the foot | 18:04 |
| anteaya | happens a lot | 18:05 |
| clee | much appreciated :) | 18:05 |
| anteaya | hence the idea of a supporte workflow | 18:05 |
| anteaya | sure | 18:05 |
| clee | anteaya: any comments on the change, btw? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231112/ | 18:05 |
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| greghaynes | crinkle: thats not using the bifrost vlan stuff | 18:06 |
| anteaya | clee: curly braces in macros are interesting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212246/ | 18:06 |
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| greghaynes | crinkle: was debugging your previous deal and ran into a glean bug I got nerdsniped by ;) | 18:06 |
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| anteaya | that patch has some interesting commentary and history on curly braces in one specific macro | 18:06 |
| clee | lol | 18:06 |
| anteaya | have you an recent log of a puppet-lint job? | 18:07 |
| clee | no, I don't | 18:07 |
| clee | tox -e puppet-lint? | 18:07 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: yeah, i also want to minimize the branching, but i also think it's super important to be able to run nodepool for real with out a cloud; it makes large changes MUCH easier to test and speeds up iteration time (something our recent changes have been suffering from). i suspect we'll be able to make it even cleaner with osc and shade eventually. | 18:07 |
| anteaya | shall we start by looking at the log and see if the macro is brokent | 18:08 |
| anteaya | broken | 18:08 |
| anteaya | clee: well in theory that would work | 18:08 |
| anteaya | I'm more inclined to find a log to link to then we can both look at the same thing | 18:08 |
| anteaya | rather than hope we are | 18:08 |
| clee | I don't have a link handy yet... jenkins hasn't commented on the change yet | 18:09 |
| * clee reloads | 18:09 | |
| greghaynes | jeblair: Yea, so for that I'd think we should do both - leave the branching but maybe dont use that mechanism in our tests? (It just occured to me that the reason for it is for users so spitballing ideas) | 18:09 |
| clee | oh hey, there we go | 18:09 |
| anteaya | clee: which job? | 18:09 |
| clee | http://logs.openstack.org/12/231112/1/check/project-config-compare-xml/10f1990/console.html | 18:10 |
| clee | okay, it looks like this change isn't correct. | 18:10 |
| anteaya | wonderful | 18:10 |
| mmedvede | fungi: I was not aware that stackalytics had a driver report. In any case though, there is an overlap between tools, and the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194437/ was not intended to define exactly what ci-dashboard.o.o would cover, but rather that we would deploy CI Watch, as it suites some of needs of third-party CI operators not covered elsewhere | 18:10 |
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| jeblair | greghaynes: that's sort-of what's going on in that change -- i left the setUpFakes in place because the closure it creates for the client is important for parallel testing. only problem with that is that we end up testing less code that way. | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Fredrik Medley proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Improve job dependencies using graph instead of tree https://review.openstack.org/231124 | 18:11 |
| anteaya | clee: I have no experience evaluating a compare-xml job log, what should I be looking for | 18:11 |
| clee | this behavior of "you need to escape curly braces sometimes, but not always, depending on where the builder is included" is ... not great, IMHO | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Host an initial CI monitoring dashboard service https://review.openstack.org/194437 | 18:12 |
| anteaya | clee: yeah, fair commentary | 18:12 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: but at any rate, the reason that i had to modify the shade 'integration' tests is because they _don't_ set up fakes, so they run the real code, so we want to make sure not to end up with fakes there | 18:12 |
| clee | anteaya: ctrl+f for 'awk' and look at the results in the output. the XML output should show: | 18:12 |
| clee | MODULE=$(awk '/^name/ {print $NF}' Modulefile |tr -d \"\') | 18:12 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: oh! youre remaning *to* real- to avoid the fake- bits | 18:12 |
| anteaya | clee: I confirm: http://logs.openstack.org/12/231112/1/check/project-config-compare-xml/10f1990/console.html#_2015-10-05_17_58_48_726 | 18:13 |
| * clee nods | 18:13 | |
| anteaya | clee: what should I take that to mean? | 18:13 |
| asselin | fungi, mmedvede krtaylor "A 'CI tested’ column will show a check mark meaning that CI is present." https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DriverLog#How_To:_Add_a_new_driver_to_DriverLog | 18:13 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: yea. We should be able to rename the existing fixtures to not use fake- also then | 18:13 |
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| clee | anteaya: my opinion? that we should change jjb to always require escaping curly braces. :) | 18:13 |
| clee | (not require it conditionally on whether or not the included macro takes parameters or not) | 18:14 |
| anteaya | clee: sorry what does that line in the compare xml job log mean? | 18:14 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: yep | 18:14 |
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| clee | anteaya: it means that the XML before my change was different than after my change, and the XML after my change is incorrect | 18:15 |
| anteaya | clee: thank you | 18:15 |
| anteaya | clee: that is what I suspected and wanted to confirm | 18:15 |
| * clee nods | 18:15 | |
| anteaya | clee: thank you for your patience with me | 18:16 |
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| clee | anteaya: no problem! | 18:16 |
| anteaya | so the idea with these changes is that they not change the xml if the macro is working | 18:16 |
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| clee | exactly | 18:16 |
| anteaya | is that a correct statemtn | 18:16 |
| anteaya | yay | 18:16 |
| anteaya | agreement | 18:16 |
| clee | the problem is, I have another change that automatically expands parameter values in all macros, and that turns every builder into a parameterized builder | 18:16 |
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| anteaya | now let's jump to your statement above | 18:17 |
| anteaya | oh my | 18:17 |
| anteaya | that will break some things | 18:17 |
| clee | yep. | 18:17 |
| clee | and this particular awk line is one of the things that breaks :) | 18:17 |
| clee | which is why I was trying to escape it... | 18:17 |
| anteaya | I see | 18:17 |
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| anteaya | well the jjb release team is zaro and the infra team | 18:17 |
| anteaya | let's get some leader's guidance here | 18:18 |
| clee | zaro: any thoughts? :) | 18:18 |
| anteaya | since I think the scope is larger than the patch | 18:18 |
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| clee | indeed | 18:18 |
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| clee | if this kind of change is something that has to hold off until jjb 2.0, that's fine with me | 18:18 |
| clee | but I think it would be good to simplify | 18:18 |
| anteaya | it might be considered a breaking change? | 18:18 |
| fungi | mmedvede: asselin: cool. mostly just wondering if ci-dashboard potentially makes driverlog obsolete later | 18:18 |
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| clee | it would definitely be a breaking change | 18:18 |
| anteaya | because well it does break us | 18:18 |
| clee | (which I did not realize when I started) | 18:19 |
| anteaya | well sounds like breaking changes are aimed at 2.0 | 18:19 |
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| anteaya | and fair enough | 18:19 |
| clee | indeed. | 18:19 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: oh i see what happened | 18:19 |
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| anteaya | fungi: I think yes | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add some verbose message for validate / update commands https://review.openstack.org/231126 | 18:19 |
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| anteaya | but I also think it has taken so long to get to where we are with the proposed tool | 18:20 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: orly | 18:20 |
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| anteaya | that I would like to get the proposed tool up and then address overlaps afterward | 18:20 |
| AJaeger | clee: your patch https://review.openstack.org/231112 is not needed. Please review the XML output and if you don't understand it, ask | 18:20 |
| anteaya | else we risk falling down before the tool is stood up | 18:20 |
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| anteaya | based on experience to date in this area | 18:20 |
| clee | AJaeger: we've been discussing it here already | 18:20 |
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| clee | AJaeger: I'm aware that it doesn't work at the moment | 18:20 |
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| clee | AJaeger: but I'm abandoning that change | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | clee: ah, I see. | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | clee: But splitting the change up will not work either. You need to add the variables *and* change the macro in the same change. | 18:21 |
| * anteaya goes to have tea with her family | 18:21 | |
| AJaeger | enjoy, anteaya ! | 18:21 |
| mmedvede | fungi: we should link to driverlog. One difference i see is that CI Watch would show status of CI's that report, and not of those who are specifically registered. | 18:21 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | clee: right now if your change goes in, none of the puppet jobs will work ;( | 18:21 |
| clee | AJaeger: definitely understood | 18:21 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: no I don't think we should link to driverlog | 18:22 |
| asselin | mmedvede, me neither | 18:22 |
| anteaya | if ci operators can hardcode their name in the json file to get a green check mark that is defeating the purpose of our efforts | 18:22 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: ok. As I said, I was not aware it existed :) | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add some verbose message for validate / update commands https://review.openstack.org/231126 | 18:22 |
| clee | AJaeger: I'm going to be proposing that for jjb 2.0, we treat all builders as parameterized and get rid of this conditional "you need to escape curly braces sometimes" behavior, because it's confusing and inconsistent | 18:22 |
| AJaeger | clee: I agree with your previous comment: we should always quote and not depending on whether there's a variable or not. | 18:23 |
| AJaeger | clee: yep | 18:23 |
| anteaya | it has been hard enough to get here, I think we should stay focused and worry about cruft after this tool is stood up | 18:23 |
| asselin | anteaya, well they also need to be reporting, but would have to look deeper to see if all failing is sufficient for a green box | 18:23 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: yup, that is fine, I wouldn't even go so far as to call it a tool | 18:23 |
| anteaya | it is a view | 18:23 |
| anteaya | asselin: fair enough | 18:23 |
| * anteaya really goes to have a cup of tea with her parents now | 18:24 | |
| asselin | anteaya, agree...it's a view | 18:24 |
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| fungi | well, it seems to differentiate between a driver with no ci listed, a driver with a ci listed which isn't reporting, a driver with a ci listed which has failed the most recent job it ran, and a driver with a ci listed which has passed the most recent job it ran (and also has a more detailed breakdown for master vs individual stable branches) | 18:26 |
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| clee | well, the compare-xml test is really damn good :) | 18:27 |
| AJaeger | clee: yep ;) | 18:27 |
| clee | AJaeger: if it weren't for that, I don't think I would have realized how much of a breaking change my other proposed change actually is. | 18:28 |
| AJaeger | clee: when reviewing your change I expected it to be wrong but waited for compare-xml to report on it ;) | 18:28 |
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| clee | AJaeger: well, you should see my other change... | 18:28 |
| clee | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230613/ | 18:28 |
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| clee | AJaeger: this basically forces all macros to become parameterized, because it includes them before deep_format gets called | 18:28 |
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| clee | AJaeger: so, when it failed compare-xml because of the awk line, I thought "Oh, duh, this needs to be escaped" | 18:29 |
| AJaeger | something for JJB 2.0 I guess... | 18:29 |
| clee | and now I have a much better understanding :) | 18:30 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 18:31 |
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| clee | waynr: so, where is the jjb 2.0 development happening? | 18:31 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: mordred I am seeing the shade integration test for nodepool fail on master for me locally - is this a known thing? | 18:37 |
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| jeblair | greghaynes: not that i'm aware of | 18:37 |
| alivigni | If I do something like XML.SubElement(osb, 'authToken').text = str('') I get </authToken> any idea how to get <authToken></authToken> | 18:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/requirements: Adds os-win in global-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/230394 | 18:40 |
| dramalho | whois jhesketh | 18:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/requirements: Removes posix-ipc from global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/217824 | 18:42 |
| waynr | clee: check out Implementation > Work Items > Development Process section in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182542/12/specs/jenkins-job-builder_2.0.0-api-changes.rst,cm | 18:42 |
| waynr | we will work on a feature branch called "2.0.x" | 18:43 |
| waynr | I'm not quite sure how branching works in gerrit | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Revise rules on upper bounds. https://review.openstack.org/222349 | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafana dashboard for status.o.o/zuul https://review.openstack.org/224834 | 18:46 |
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| fungi | waynr: basically i can create a feature/2.0 branch in gerrit from whatever initial commit you want (current tip of master?) and periodically propose merges from master into that feature branch if you need. later we can potentially create a stable/1.3 (or whatever) branch from the tip of master and then merge feature/2.0 into master and delete the feature branch at that point | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Jenkins Job Builder 2.0.0 API Changes/Rewrite https://review.openstack.org/182542 | 18:50 |
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| clarkb | sorry been out today at doctors office (takes so much time) will be around after lunch | 18:51 |
| fungi | waynr: that is, assuming there is some desire to continue maintaining/fixing bugs to jjb 1.x for a while after 2.0.0 releases | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: no worries, nothing is sinking :) | 18:51 |
| Shrews | greghaynes: what's failing? | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental grafyaml gate job https://review.openstack.org/230997 | 18:54 |
| waynr | fungi: cool, that sounds totally reasonable | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Prevent overwriting of user modified blacklist.conf https://review.openstack.org/220883 | 18:57 |
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| yolanda | clarkb, jeblair, mind reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189762/ - nodepool secure.conf ? Ramy has amended the latest things | 19:01 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: on 224834 you've got a workaround with a branch tarball in test-requirements.txt, which is a bit of a liability for amy of the tox envs in that repo because they will always try to retrieve and install it even when not running the corresponding experimental job. why shouldn't i just tag a 0.0.1 now and we can install from our pypi mirror instead? | 19:20 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: Ya, I wanted to get delete functionality into grafyaml first, then tag 0.0.1 release. But that is the only thing stopping me today | 19:32 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: however, I don't have a major reason to detail the tagging. | 19:32 |
| fungi | pabelanger: well, that could always be 0.0.2 or 0.1.0 ;) | 19:32 |
| pabelanger | fungi: maybe later tonight or tomorrow | 19:32 |
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| fungi | okay, well let's do that then, and make the test-requirements.txt addition just the package name instead | 19:33 |
| fungi | so that we don't need to update it later | 19:33 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: no problem | 19:35 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: should we setup the openstack/releases process for grafyaml? | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | since we haven't tagged anything yet | 19:39 |
| fungi | pabelanger: oh, yep, that's needed too. better sooner than later | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | fungi: okay, I'll make sure things are setup properly with ACLs | 19:39 |
| fungi | pabelanger: oh, wait, i may have misread... we need to set up our infra release tooling if it's not already | 19:40 |
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| pabelanger | Ah | 19:40 |
| pabelanger | okay, I thought we had something tagged already | 19:40 |
| fungi | as in pypi upload job, make sure the package name is registered on pypi.python.org, et cetera | 19:40 |
| pabelanger | right | 19:41 |
| fungi | but infra projects don't need to involve the openstack/releases (coordinated release management) process | 19:41 |
| pabelanger | okay | 19:41 |
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| fungi | looks like the zuul config is already set to run the right jobs | 19:42 |
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| fungi | and there's a registration in pypi.p.o with openstackci as an index owner | 19:42 |
| fungi | and branch tarballs seem to be working, so should be all set | 19:43 |
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| fungi | the grafyaml-release group has permission to push tags too, so i don't see anything else we need to be able to do an initial release | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Let magnum jobs to use ceilometer devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/231150 | 19:45 |
| pabelanger | fungi: okay, your call. The validate command has been merged, along with update command. So, it is working today. Should be enough for 0.0.1 release | 19:45 |
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| dstufft | clarkb: I'm writing a makefile, this is terrible | 19:49 |
| clarkb | haha | 19:49 |
| fungi | dstufft: terribly exhilarating? | 19:49 |
| dstufft | I can't figure out how to do a conditional :(( | 19:50 |
| dstufft | is this not shell | 19:50 |
| clarkb | not shell | 19:50 |
| fungi | dstufft: https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Conditional-Example.html#Conditional-Example | 19:50 |
| dstufft | er, inside of a for loop thing I mean | 19:50 |
| fungi | heh | 19:50 |
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| dstufft | https://bpaste.net/show/75f6b1e2a788 | 19:51 |
| dstufft | if [] doesn't work apparently | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Builds and publishes Compute API Guide https://review.openstack.org/231000 | 19:52 |
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| fungi | dstufft: oh, you're trying to do a make conditional inside a shell fragment for loop? | 19:54 |
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| dstufft | fungi: idk, maybe? I'm just trying to make it so the echo only runs if the grep doesn't return a zero exit code | 19:55 |
| dstufft | I have no idea what I'm doing | 19:55 |
| fungi | dstufft: i think you want the recursion section of the manual https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Recursion.html#Recursion | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | ok I am actually mostly here now. Lunch has been consumed. I am going to take a look at jenkins masters and maybe get the restart jenkins stuff merged | 19:56 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/grafyaml now has 0.0.1 | 19:57 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: since it looks like you have it tested against python 3 as well, you might want to consider adding [wheel] universal=1 in the setup.cfg | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | all masters have healthy thread counts | 20:01 |
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| fungi | we need one of those worker safety record signs for the break room with something like "_3_ days since last jenkins restart" | 20:03 |
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| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222394/ has the +2's it needs to merge so I am going to go ahead and approve that. Will babysit | 20:03 |
| fungi | thanks! | 20:04 |
| clarkb | but with that in place I can do some manual ansible runs | 20:04 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: you were also going to work on dropping oslo.config and oslo.log from the grafyaml requirements, right? | 20:05 |
| * fungi vaguely recalls something about that | 20:05 | |
| greghaynes | Shrews: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12691195/ | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | dstufft: also often you don't want explicit iteration instead you use glob rules | 20:07 |
| pabelanger | fungi: Ya, on the list of things to do. | 20:07 |
| clarkb | dstufft: so youtell make do X for everthing that matches *.py or whatever | 20:07 |
| fungi | pabelanger: cool, thanks | 20:07 |
| Shrews | greghaynes: i love that error message | 20:08 |
| Shrews | greghaynes: takes *at least* 3 args, 12 are given | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | Shrews: it is second only to "Error in cloud" | 20:08 |
| clarkb | Shrews: at least 3 but only 12 provided | 20:08 |
| clarkb | Do you even count? | 20:08 |
| Shrews | clarkb: right? | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | Shrews: Basically what is going on though is endpoint is a required arg | 20:08 |
| fungi | hah | 20:08 |
| pabelanger | fungi: experimental grafyaml job worked as expected | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | Shrews: and its not being passed in | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | Shrews: (positional vs kwarg) | 20:08 |
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| greghaynes | also, error messages are hard | 20:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add utility script for safe master shutdown https://review.openstack.org/222394 | 20:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafana dashboard for status.o.o/zuul https://review.openstack.org/224834 | 20:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fredrik Medley proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Improve job dependencies using graph instead of tree https://review.openstack.org/231124 | 20:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fredrik Medley proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Improve job dependencies using graph instead of tree https://review.openstack.org/231124 | 20:18 |
| clarkb | looks like current 226751 test results show 155 shade tasks ran | 20:21 |
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| dstufft | clarkb: oh | 20:21 |
| clarkb | thats a good improvment from 262 but I think its still ~twice as many as what the old code did? | 20:21 |
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| fungi | jeblair: interesting... change 231124 seems to be addressing a 2.5 year old wishlist bug for zuul | 20:22 |
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| clarkb | mordred: jeblair is there a tl;dr on the current shade work? | 20:23 |
| clarkb | er shade + nodepool | 20:23 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm working on it; we're waiting on me | 20:23 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm implementing a think to reduce the api calls | 20:24 |
| fungi | clarkb: also https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nodepool-shade | 20:24 |
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| clarkb | looks like the safe_jenkins_shutdown script installed fine but the pip package resource for python-jenkins didn't upgrade to latest version probably beacuse it just says "present" | 20:26 |
| clarkb | will have to fix that | 20:26 |
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| fungi | clarkb: may want to consider a fix similar to https://review.openstack.org/231048 | 20:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/231029 failed the -src test twice, possibly due to slow nodes both times. that smells funny. | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Break out cmd testcases into seperate files https://review.openstack.org/231095 | 20:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i haven't looked into that yet, do you want to? | 20:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair I can | 20:29 |
| fungi | 21.5 minutes for that job to ansible | 20:29 |
| fungi | er, i mean to do workspace setup | 20:29 |
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| fungi | looks like most of it was spent running this find on /opt http://logs.openstack.org/29/231029/1/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool-src-shade/78c98ee/logs/devstack-gate-setup-workspace-new.txt.gz#_2015-10-05_18_48_01_324 | 20:30 |
| fungi | smells like i/o starvation? | 20:31 |
| jeblair | so just persistent bad luck? | 20:31 |
| fungi | since it's copying there | 20:31 |
| fungi | yeah, not sure. comparing to the earlier run now | 20:31 |
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| fungi | er, well it's a mv so actually copy and delete between filesystems | 20:31 |
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| fungi | yeah, took 12 minutes the first run http://logs.openstack.org/29/231029/1/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool-src-shade/a8f5810/logs/devstack-gate-setup-workspace-new.txt.gz#_2015-10-05_15_10_43_475 | 20:32 |
| fungi | that seems way too long top copy git repos, unless we started caching something huge today? | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafana dashboard for status.o.o/zuul https://review.openstack.org/224834 | 20:34 |
| fungi | both times it was in hpcloud | 20:34 |
| Shrews | jeblair: mordred: https://review.openstack.org/231029 failed the nodepool-shade test again. I'm inclined to think something is amiss | 20:34 |
| clarkb | fungi ephemeral drive slowness could explain it | 20:34 |
| jeblair | Shrews: yeah, clarkb just started looking into that | 20:35 |
| clarkb | in theory those are local to the VM so IO noise? | 20:35 |
| Shrews | oh, oops | 20:35 |
| fungi | i expect we should be seeing this in other jobs too? | 20:35 |
| clarkb | well mostly fungi :) | 20:35 |
| fungi | devstack-gate across the board | 20:35 |
| clarkb | fungi yes I would expct that | 20:35 |
| clarkb | however the dib build which uses /opt as well doesnt seem too slow | 20:35 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: do you recall the name of the open source video conf tool you mentioned to me at the puppet sprint? | 20:36 |
| clarkb | though total IO there is probably far less couple hundred meg vs a few gig | 20:36 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: freeswitch | 20:36 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: thank you | 20:36 |
| clarkb | fungi we should look at dstat | 20:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Dreyer proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: setup.cfg: py26 is no longer supported https://review.openstack.org/231169 | 20:37 |
| fungi | was just pulling it up | 20:37 |
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| fungi | of course dstat doesn't start until well after the git repo move to /mnt | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add a private method for nodepool server vars https://review.openstack.org/231170 | 20:40 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 20:40 |
| fungi | on the second run around 19:32:00 iowait gets up over 40% | 20:40 |
| jeblair | clarkb, Shrews: https://review.openstack.org/231170 implements the thing mordred was suggesting earlier to reduce our api calls | 20:41 |
| fungi | spikes to 60 at 19:34:15 | 20:41 |
| clarkb | fungi: is that the one that took less time? | 20:41 |
| fungi | took longer | 20:42 |
| clarkb | the first one spikes above 60 | 20:42 |
| clarkb | neither seem super healthy | 20:42 |
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| fungi | highest on the second run is 68% at 19:41:10 | 20:42 |
| clarkb | jeblair: looks like you updated the depends on so we should see soonish | 20:43 |
| jeblair | we have 5.2G in opt | 20:43 |
| jeblair | on a recently spun up hpcloud-b5 node | 20:44 |
| fungi | 5-minute system load was 8.0 when iowait% got the worst | 20:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Ari proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in builders and scm https://review.openstack.org/229100 | 20:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: we don't have dstat from the /opt copy because that happens before devstack but the IO intensive process of booting VMs and setting up images do seem to be affected by high IO wait | 20:46 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, i figured the same | 20:46 |
| fungi | should probably compare this against a known good run | 20:46 |
| jeblair | oh my | 20:46 |
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| jeblair | i'm actually on a node running gate-dsvm-nodepool-src-shade :) | 20:47 |
| fungi | wow--what luck! | 20:47 |
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| clarkb | http://logs.openstack.org/59/231059/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/f03e418/logs/devstack-gate-setup-workspace-new.txt.gz#_2015-10-05_19_54_53_251 that one only took 3 minutes | 20:47 |
| clarkb | hpcloud-b4 | 20:47 |
| clarkb | (it failed so I was checking to see if maybe it had the same signs | 20:47 |
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| jeblair | 2015-10-05 20:43:03.869 | + sudo find /opt/ -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -exec mv '{}' /mnt/ ';' | 20:49 |
| jeblair | 2015-10-05 20:44:53.478 | + sudo umount /mnt | 20:49 |
| jeblair | that's on 5242011 | 20:50 |
| fungi | so that's what a healthy run should look like ;) | 20:50 |
| clarkb | ya that looks similar to the log I pasted above too | 20:50 |
| clarkb | ~2-3 minutes | 20:50 |
| fungi | 110 seconds seems reasonable | 20:50 |
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| jeblair | so i guess we just had a run of really bad luck | 20:50 |
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| fungi | or there's some really spooky interaction with that particular change | 20:51 |
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| jeblair | fungi: as long as it happens at a distance | 20:52 |
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| fungi | maybe its particles got entangled | 20:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: thinking about what the shade api should be there. If shade returns an object (that may be dict like) then it can have an explicit method to populate the additional data on demand | 20:54 |
| clarkb | but I may be thinking too nodepool centric there, it makes nodepools use case easy but everyone elses potentially harder | 20:55 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: there's that -- then mordred was suggesting just running that method internally in shade all the time, and then my idea is: | 20:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: agent: ensure vmlinuz file does not exist before hard-linking into it https://review.openstack.org/229326 | 20:56 |
| jeblair | clarkb: those are things that are being calculated based on known and returned data, maybe have the returned object have some helper methods like "get_the_public_ip_i_should_use()" or something | 20:56 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya could just make a bunch of properties that are smart | 20:57 |
| jeblair | yep | 20:57 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that will then cache the data after first retrieval and make it properly on demand lazyness | 20:57 |
| Shrews | hrm, we've worked pretty hard to make all returned data be just dicts. the Bunch thing is only a workaround for backward compatibility. | 20:58 |
| jeblair | clarkb: either way, your and my ideas require an api change (to return something other than a Bunch()), mordred's does not, but i'm not sure how i feel putting our own attributes into the same namespace as the stuff we return from openstack | 20:58 |
| jeblair | Shrews: yeah, indeed -- the docs say "the Bunch objects might just become dicts" | 20:58 |
| Shrews | yup | 20:58 |
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| jeblair | but i feel like we're at a place where shade is returning something that is not useful to clients (eg nodepool) without additional work | 20:59 |
| jeblair | i mean the pattern of use in nodepool is "get a server Bunch from shade, then call another function in shade to make it useful" | 20:59 |
| jeblair | and ansible is similar, with get_openstack_vars | 20:59 |
| clarkb | but also when it does that there is a relatively high cost involved | 21:00 |
| clarkb | I haven't looked closer but 262 apicalls to boot 3 nodes and make 2 images seems excessive even for "normal" consumer of shade | 21:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: in ansible's case, yes. for the more limited set in nodepool, pretty much no cost. however, smart accessors could solve that for both. | 21:00 |
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| jeblair | at any rate, as someone who still thinks object oriented programming is cool, my preference would be for shade to return a Server object, which is something it defines entirely, and it would allow access to the raw info returned from openstack but also have smart convenience methods/accessors for some of the stuff we're doing in the variable expansion functions we're doing in the meta module | 21:03 |
| jeblair | that sentence was clearly too long for my mental buffer, but you get the idea :) | 21:05 |
| Shrews | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/175064 | 21:05 |
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| jeblair | oh hey | 21:05 |
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| Shrews | so, yeah, that idea has been discussed | 21:06 |
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| Shrews | jeblair: i share your OOP love | 21:06 |
| Shrews | uh, that sounds weird. i'd like to go back.... | 21:07 |
| jeblair | Shrews, clarkb: all of that thinking is why i decided to proceed with leaking the internal method to nodepool right now -- that way we're not cementing the api any more than necessary until we know where we're going | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Ensure latest version of python-jenkins https://review.openstack.org/231192 | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ^ I think that is what I need for python-jenkins | 21:12 |
| fungi | clarkb: ahh, yep i assumed it was cd from git for some reason | 21:13 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: 226751 fails pep8 but seems to run otherwise so we should get good data from the integration tests | 21:16 |
| dmsimard | Is there an IRC channel for asking jjb questions ? Or do people generally come here to ask stuff ? | 21:17 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: usually just here | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Add standard code coverage configuration file https://review.openstack.org/231100 | 21:18 |
| anteaya | jjb is the hot topic | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Bump shade requirement to >=0.12.0 https://review.openstack.org/231195 | 21:19 |
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| greghaynes | Shrews: ^ | 21:19 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: not sure if we care about actually debugging ^, I didnt really dig beyong knowing its bork | 21:20 |
| dmsimard | Ah dang, I just noticed jjb-addons (https://github.com/jimbydamonk/jenkins-job-builder-addons) is not actually out of openstack-infra | 21:21 |
| dmsimard | I'll go back to lurking | 21:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ack; fixed, but i'll wait a few mins to let the dsvm job finish | 21:21 |
| jeblair | before pushing | 21:21 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: fwiw JJB accepts patches :) | 21:21 |
| clarkb | not sure wh another add ons repo would be necesary but entrpoints make it easy and I Think that was an expected use case so neat | 21:22 |
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| clarkb | hrm I just noticed we upload the qcow2 for nodepool to the log server | 21:24 |
| clarkb | thats not a great thing to happen | 21:24 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: Was mostly about try to manage views from jjb (http://jenkins-job-builder-addons.readthedocs.org/en/latest/usage.html#module-jenkins_jobs_addons.views) | 21:24 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: I want to say that feature was pushed up and merged? | 21:24 |
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| clarkb | I would check if latest JJB does it | 21:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb: qcow! ha! | 21:25 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: Don't see it in docs, should I be looking at some other place than http://docs.openstack.org/infra/jenkins-job-builder/# ? | 21:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: it is because we copy all of /etc/nodepool | 21:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I will work on fixing that | 21:25 |
| jeblair | k | 21:26 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: down to 90 tasks ran | 21:26 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we probably want the elemnts, scripts, and everything else to help debug changes to those items? or do we just want the yaml config file? | 21:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair: trying to decide how much of this should be cleaned up | 21:28 |
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| dmsimard | clarkb: looks like it's this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206178/ | 21:29 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: you know, if we convert the config into some static files in the nodepool repo, we could probably omit the directory entirely (as it's just duplicative of what's in the repo) | 21:30 |
| fungi | dmsimard: it looks like the author of that change would appreciate assistance finishing it | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: that should work as long as we are ok with the devstack password not being dynamic | 21:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: eg we can hard code it for the gate and be happy with that | 21:32 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, i thought we'd use clouds.yaml? | 21:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we don't beacuse it doesn't work | 21:32 |
| clarkb | devstack writes on but it is not useable, I think because devstack writes it after starting nodepoll | 21:33 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: i think the remaining difference in api calls are related network stuff -- NetworkList:7 NeutronFloatingIPCreate:2 NeutronFloatingIPList:9 NeutronFloatingIPUpdate:3 PortList:3 | 21:34 |
| jeblair | mordred: ^ | 21:34 |
| jeblair | er, skip the NeutronFloatingIPCreate; that's obviously minimal now :) | 21:34 |
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| jeblair | i guess NetworkList and NeutronFloatingIPList are the main concerns there | 21:35 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I am going to try using /opt/nodepool for the images | 21:36 |
| clarkb | thats a quick fix then we can work through using cloud config and making the config itself static | 21:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: k | 21:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Move image location out of config location https://review.openstack.org/231200 | 21:44 |
| clarkb | hrm I need a better varname actually because thats a global to devstack namespace | 21:44 |
| * clarkb fixes | 21:44 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Move image location out of config location https://review.openstack.org/231200 | 21:45 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ^ I think that is the quick and easy fix for now | 21:45 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: lgtm | 21:47 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: hah | 21:48 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: that poor log server | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman https://review.openstack.org/195175 | 21:50 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, Shrews, mordred: i thought i read something about wanting to remove the path that tries to re-use a floating ip, but i can't find a change regarding that.... | 21:57 |
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| jeblair | does that ring a bell for anyone? | 21:57 |
| clarkb | not for me | 21:58 |
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| jeblair | weird. anyway, it looks like maybe the current path is to try to re-use an unallocated floating ip before creating a new one... | 22:01 |
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| jeblair | i think that's bad for a couple of reasons... | 22:01 |
| clarkb | jeblair: there has been talk of reusing floating IPs but I didn't realize that was implemented anywhere. Do you mean in shade? | 22:02 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yes | 22:02 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: gotcha | 22:02 |
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| clarkb | and yes what you describe sounds racy | 22:02 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i believe the shade implementation will have the same problems that a naive implementation in nodepool will have | 22:02 |
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| jeblair | but also, it takes more api calls | 22:02 |
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| jeblair | but even more also, i don't think that should be the default behavior in shade -- floating ips are annoying for most of our uses, but the one thing they are useful for is for moving service addresses around. the idea of just pulling an ip from a pool is incompatible with that use. | 22:03 |
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| jeblair | that behavior _certainly_ needs to be configurable, otherwise, no one would be able to use shade with an application that uses service ips | 22:04 |
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| jeblair | i guess whether it's default is arguable :) | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 22:10 |
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| dstufft | clarkb: there, I finally made it work https://github.com/python/psf-packages/blob/master/Makefile | 22:15 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: we ended up using ekiga, which is open source, it was packaged so pretty easy to set up | 22:15 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: aha! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NodePoolAPICounts | 22:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: bottom of that etherpad :) | 22:21 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the notes? | 22:21 |
| clarkb | that certainly matches up with what you were talking about earlier | 22:21 |
| clarkb | dstufft: neat | 22:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah | 22:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm looking into that now | 22:22 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: what doth that do? | 22:26 |
| dstufft | lifeless: builds a bunch of .debs and then uploads them to packagecloud.io | 22:27 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, mordred: 226751 has apparently lost the ability for nodepool to specify a floating ip pool argument; it's a nodepool config parameter that i don't think is passed to shade | 22:29 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that will be a problem for the tripleo cloud | 22:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 22:35 |
| clarkb | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/setuptools.egg-info' | 22:40 |
| clarkb | hrm | 22:40 |
| lifeless | dstufft: whats packagecloud.io? | 22:40 |
| lifeless | clarkb: pypy? | 22:40 |
| lifeless | clarkb: or precise? | 22:40 |
| clarkb | lifeless: precise | 22:41 |
| clarkb | lifeless: but with newer pip | 22:41 |
| lifeless | clarkb: uninstall python-distribute | 22:41 |
| clarkb | lifeless: danke | 22:41 |
| lifeless | clarkb: then install current setuptools | 22:41 |
| dstufft | lifeless: it's a thing that maks it easy to have deb (or rpm or gem) repos | 22:41 |
| clarkb | lifeless: setuptools is 12.0.5 and python-distribute is not installed according to aptitude | 22:42 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/shade: Optionally disable fip reuse https://review.openstack.org/231216 | 22:42 |
| lifeless | clarkb: huh | 22:42 |
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| dstufft | lifeless: I just generate a .deb and then do package_cloud push psf/infra/ubuntu/trusty $FILENAME | 22:42 |
| lifeless | clarkb: gnar, its something in that space though | 22:42 |
| jeblair | clarkb, mordred, Shrews: so with https://review.openstack.org/231216 i'm now looking for what happens on delete, and i'm not at all sure that shade deletes floating ips when you tell it to delete a server... | 22:42 |
| clarkb | lifeless: ok that gives me somewhere to start | 22:42 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, mordred, Shrews: it kind of looks like it was designed around the pool/reuse idea | 22:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image delete using gearman https://review.openstack.org/198114 | 22:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Fixing code-blocks in README.rst https://review.openstack.org/225616 | 22:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 23:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb, mordred: ^ avoid fip reuse and delete fips | 23:01 |
| clarkb | only 01 is affected by the python jenkins version thing | 23:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 23:03 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ^ that extends the devstack test a little bit to exercise node deletion | 23:03 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: (some of that should be exercised by the image build, but i think some failures in deleting the template vm may not fail the test, this should) | 23:05 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: ^ | 23:05 |
| clarkb | kk | 23:05 |
| clarkb | do we want to assert the state of the last lsit? | 23:06 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: nodepool will be rebuilding nodes, so probably not... | 23:12 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, we're not set -e there... so we need to check $? from the delete calls | 23:12 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: we can grep that 1 and 2 don't exist | 23:13 |
| clarkb | jeblair: though that gets a little tricky with teh uuids | 23:13 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: hey, lets sync up tomorrow morning about moving things forward a bit with infra-cloud | 23:15 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: crinkle ^ | 23:16 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: I've been helping crinkle through getting up to speed on the baremetal deploy bits, I think she is just chugging along getting that set up | 23:16 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I had to remove python-setuptools and python-pip | 23:16 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: crinkle yeah lets do another "get a terrible cloud up" push but this time actually get a terrible cloud up | 23:16 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: but doing that let it use the newer versions of things and installed properly | 23:17 |
| crinkle | SpamapS: there is a terrible minicloud up | 23:17 |
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| crinkle | need to make it slightly bigger | 23:17 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: clarkb About that - I mentioned to crinkle today if we wanted to just do that the path of least resistence is the static networking config in images | 23:17 |
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| greghaynes | er, SpamapS crinkle | 23:17 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: crinkle so, it depends on how terrible we want | 23:18 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: SpamapS i was gonna move forward with that but got distrated by pxe | 23:18 |
| greghaynes | always | 23:18 |
| greghaynes | yay real hardware | 23:18 |
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| SpamapS | crinkle: hm. That's good news! I've been.. distracted.. ;) | 23:18 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: are we still not quite able to handle vlan25? | 23:19 |
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| crinkle | not automatically | 23:19 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: crinkle Yes, the vlan stuff is still not done. It actually got more complicated too when crinkle did the actual cloud- we now need to do the whole make a veth pair and add to our bridge ontop of the previous plan | 23:20 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/shade: Optionally disable fip reuse https://review.openstack.org/231216 | 23:21 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yeah I saw that.. the mini software switch thing basically | 23:21 |
| greghaynes | yerp | 23:21 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: we could just make everything use the untagged vlan, and route everything through a single soft router that we hand-build. | 23:22 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: at least that would be sane to debug. | 23:22 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 23:22 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: haha. that actually isnt a bad idea | 23:22 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: SpamapS aiui that only scales to about 100 VMs at least the way hpcloud has implemented it | 23:23 |
| SpamapS | I'm really kidding. It would be silly. | 23:24 |
| greghaynes | what? it is already silly? | 23:24 |
| greghaynes | that actually isnt a bad idea | 23:24 |
| greghaynes | depending on how terrible | 23:24 |
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| greghaynes | er, how terrible of a cloud we want | 23:24 |
| SpamapS | We have a non-trivial amount of internet traffic. | 23:24 |
| SpamapS | If we were 99% internal chatter, it's fine | 23:25 |
| SpamapS | but our vms primarily shove logs and things back out the internet | 23:25 |
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| clarkb | the current soft switch should do much better | 23:25 |
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| SpamapS | yeah, it's just soul crushing to try and automate all of this. | 23:26 |
| clarkb | (because it shards the laod) | 23:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Move image location out of config location https://review.openstack.org/231200 | 23:26 |
| SpamapS | but who needs a soul right? | 23:26 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: you just write an init script | 23:26 |
| clarkb | should take all of 5 minutes | 23:26 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: ok ok, so one level less terrible idea was just do the static networking config and have hosts dhcp with static lease table on bm host | 23:26 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: I believe that's done | 23:26 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: it's the "ok we think it works.. lets wait 40 minutes and see" | 23:26 |
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| clarkb | why do you have to wait 40 mintes? | 23:27 |
| clarkb | and how would using a soft router or other automation change that? | 23:27 |
| greghaynes | so stepping back - this would be at a layer we dont have a cloud yet | 23:27 |
| anteaya | I have found that this work brings to my awareness the importance of protecting my soul | 23:27 |
| SpamapS | 12 minutes to boot.. another 5 to send images, run puppet, install software, configure crap.. | 23:27 |
| greghaynes | (the bm host) | 23:27 |
| anteaya | chocolate helps | 23:27 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: but the init script runs at boot | 23:27 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: so 12 minutes not 40 | 23:27 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: you're right, I"m dumb, I'll go away | 23:28 |
| * SpamapS is tired of working on this clearly | 23:28 | |
| anteaya | try chocolate | 23:28 |
| anteaya | it protects your soul | 23:28 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: But, before you armchair engineer this, consider that perhaps I've been using this hardware in this insane network for the last 3 years and I'm familiar with it and all of its insanity and how long it takes to actually get anything done with it. | 23:30 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: sure, it was just my understanding that the work was done and it works | 23:30 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: so I am really confused why we would redo it all again | 23:30 |
| SpamapS | Something works, yes. Automating it and iterating on it is _ridiculously_ painful. | 23:30 |
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| clarkb | for the automation side what part of an init script doesn't work? | 23:30 |
| SpamapS | never mind | 23:31 |
| clarkb | I am genuinely tring to understand | 23:31 |
| clarkb | iterating is painful, but I think thats a general problem to the environment and not related to this? | 23:31 |
| SpamapS | I'm not the person to ask. crinkle and greghaynes have done all of the interesting work. | 23:31 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: So the state of things is that we have our derpy tagged vs untagged interface issue, we dont have the software written to automatically get l3 how we want on the hosts | 23:31 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: if we forget neutron and ironic and all that, how are the hosts expected to get l3 setup? | 23:33 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: is it dhcp? | 23:33 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: the end goal was via config-drive | 23:33 |
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| clarkb | oh right using the stuff rax did | 23:33 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: yes | 23:33 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: but, that requires glean, bifrost, and then our init script on top to all DTRT | 23:34 |
| greghaynes | which they all do not | 23:34 |
| clarkb | so, couldn't you have glean set up the networking just like that vanilla like. Then run another init script that sets up the soft switch? | 23:34 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: they all do not what? | 23:34 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: yea, so glean patch doesnt seem to work, bifrost cant gen a config drive in that format, and the init script doesnt exist | 23:34 |
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| clarkb | I see | 23:34 |
| clarkb | then how did the one host that does work get working? | 23:35 |
| clarkb | (if glean and bifrost can't even boot it properly) | 23:35 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: the handy sysadmin | 23:35 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: I'm guessing that because bifrost lacks a nova it dones't know the specail config drive sauce yet? | 23:36 |
| asselin | clarkb, jeblair anything else you'd like to see done for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189762/? | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Augustina Ragwitz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add script to facilitate project renaming in {projects,channels,layout}.yaml https://review.openstack.org/228002 | 23:36 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: more or less. Basically this format is new so really everything speaking it is broken | 23:37 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: so what if we use the old format and just layer a smarter init script over the top to grok vlans | 23:37 |
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| clarkb | since its deployment specific it doesn't need to handle all the cases it can just do one | 23:37 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: yea, so the other though was - static network config baked into images that does dhcp, on the baremetal host we gen a static lease table, then were all done | 23:38 |
| greghaynes | which seems even easier | 23:38 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: except ou can't do dhcp over the vlan interface? | 23:38 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: why not? | 23:38 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: iirc that was the original issue | 23:38 |
| clarkb | it would go out untagged and not get where it needed to go | 23:39 |
| greghaynes | We *should* be able to, I dont remember that being an issue | 23:39 |
| greghaynes | what | 23:39 |
| clarkb | because you wouldn't know to tag before dhcp happened or something | 23:39 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: huh, it would do that if you try to send it out the wong interface, but from linux theres no reason you cant make that work | 23:39 |
| greghaynes | and I dont think theres any firewalling that would prevent it | 23:40 |
| clarkb | its not linux that is the problem its the dhcpd not getting the packets | 23:40 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: oh! so I got a fix for that | 23:40 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: and I actually wrote it too | 23:40 |
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| clarkb | ah ok | 23:40 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: SpamapS crinkle ^ On the baremetal host we have to run two dnsmasq's, and tell them each what interface to use | 23:41 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yeah that is where we had left off the last time I was helping.. I recall you had manually spawned a second one | 23:41 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: crinkle yep, theres a config fragment /etc/dnsmasq-eth2.25.cfg IIRC that is the config I was using for the second dnsmasq | 23:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think I have everything ready to do a manual run of the ansible jenkins restarter playbook tomorrow. So hopeflly that happens but maybe its better to wait for after relase depending on how conservative we want to be | 23:44 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: would that static config describe the soft switch setup too? | 23:46 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: it would need to | 23:46 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I havent ever defined veth stuff in eni though, so unsure how that works | 23:46 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: well a separate init script could still handle it but they basically become equivalent if you need to muck with /etc/networking anyeways | 23:46 |
| clarkb | (you would do like nova net :) ) | 23:47 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: do you think there is value in setting up a separate fip pool in the devstack plugin to force nodepool to use it? | 23:49 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think we can delete the one that is created by default and redefine it with a different name | 23:49 |
| clarkb | jeblair: possible make a new one in the same ip range but I bet neutron explodes on that input | 23:49 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: hrm. this feels like a good unit test, tbh. | 23:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ya I guess I was more thinking to make sure shade allowed us to do that and the unittests mock all of shade out | 23:54 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: true. it's not our primary config though, so i think it should be an additional test, which is why i was thinking unit | 23:56 |
| clarkb | good point | 23:57 |
| lifeless | clarkb: \o/ | 23:57 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I have no idea why /usr/local things didn't win that fight but hey it works now :) | 23:58 |
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