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| tristanC | #success Mitaka: 6 new TC members have been elected | 00:05 |
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| openstackstatus | tristanC: Added success to Success page | 00:05 |
| asselin | tristanC, when will the results be posted? | 00:06 |
| mtreinish | asselin: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_4ef58718618691a0 | 00:07 |
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| asselin | mtreinish, thanks | 00:09 |
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| mtreinish | is that the first time there's been a tie (granted not for a slot) but I don't think I've seen a tie before | 00:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thingee: thats cool. hopefully it works in mitaka. | 00:14 |
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| mordred | thingee: I support you re-adding it in mitaka | 00:58 |
| asselin | migrating to common-ci nodepool will be a challenge. 2 patches ^^ and another 3 will be needed.... | 00:59 |
| mordred | tristanC: nicely done with the success usage | 00:59 |
| mordred | asselin: challegnes are good | 00:59 |
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| asselin | mordred, thanks. have a nice weekend | 01:01 |
| asselin | and wish a happy thanksgiving to my canadian friends | 01:01 |
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| lawrancejing | hello could someone help add me to group :https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1119,members | 07:57 |
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| AJaeger | morning yolanda, could you review and approve https://review.openstack.org/232950 , please? Thanks! | 09:04 |
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| yolanda | hi AJaeger, checking | 09:11 |
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| yolanda | done | 09:12 |
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| yolanda | i need to look at all the jobs , macros, etc... to be more familiar with those | 09:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Rework api-site publishing https://review.openstack.org/232950 | 09:18 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: if you have questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer. Thanks! | 09:18 |
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| yolanda | AJaeger, it's mostly becoming familiar with all the jobs involved on the projects... about syntax i know it quite good from downstream, but i need to know a bit more about each project and the kind of jobs they run | 09:21 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: yeah, some of these setups are quite involved - including manuals ;) | 09:23 |
| AJaeger | time to continue cooking | 09:23 |
| AJaeger | yolanda, have a great weekend... | 09:23 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, same to you, enjoy | 09:23 |
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| lawrancejing | hello yolanda, could you help add me to group :https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1119,members | 09:29 |
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| yolanda | done | 09:32 |
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| lawrancejing | thanks | 09:35 |
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| yolanda | np | 09:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Copy grenade saved files into the log directory https://review.openstack.org/233369 | 13:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Use keystone v3 service type argument https://review.openstack.org/232530 | 13:28 |
| mordred | Shrews: ^^ | 13:28 |
| mordred | Shrews: turns out that the keystone people lied to us and you CAN'T just call create with the appropriate endpoint in it in v2 | 13:29 |
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| mordred | Shrews: because publicurl is always required | 13:29 |
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| mordred | Shrews: so I added an exception and changed it to use the single-call interface if it's v2 | 13:29 |
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| mordred | Sam-I-Am: do you know if there is good support for running devstack in provider-network mode yet? | 13:32 |
| fungi | clarkb: notmyname: i can turn the ancient oss-docs vm back on for a bit. i turned it off to see exactly who would complain (we had okayed taking down those redirects with the docs team a couple years ago but had never gotten around to it). the expectation was that after years of being a permanent redirect, deep links would have been corrected and bookmarks updated | 13:33 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: like, if I wanted to run devsack and get a shared provider network that used dhcp and not floating-ips - how hard is that? | 13:33 |
| mordred | fungi: I tink it's a fair expectation - however, I will say that in the case of swift, since they've been pretty stable for 5 years, one could imagine external links to swift.o.o that might actually still be valid deep links (I can only imagine this to be true for swift) | 13:34 |
| mordred | I'm not saying that we should add a swift.o.o redirect on any of our current servers - just that I could imagine that case as being a real thing | 13:35 |
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| fungi | mordred: yeah, if it's still heavily used, i can add it to static.o.o fairly easily (just copy what we have for devstack.org and trystack.org basically) | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Copy grenade saved files into the log directory https://review.openstack.org/233369 | 13:38 |
| fungi | however, that's mostly just kicking the can further down the road | 13:38 |
| mordred | indeed | 13:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mordred: don't see why it wouldn't work, but it prorably requires some cruft in post-config | 13:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | bleh @ pre-coffee typing | 13:48 |
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| mordred | Sam-I-Am: I'm guessing we might have to set up a bridge or something outside of devstack before hand to simulate the pre-existing provider net too, yeah? | 13:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | you probably need to hand it an ethernet interface | 13:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | using ovs, it would be a bridge | 13:53 |
| mordred | well, I'm thinking about the gate | 13:53 |
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| mordred | (it's also possible I'm saying the wrong words :) ) | 13:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh. yeah... that's a bit hacky because you cant attach a bridge to a bridge. you'd probably create a host bridge with a veth pair, then tell devstack about the veth pair. | 13:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | on the host bridge you'd fudge an IP, then use nat to make external connectivity work (if you're testing that) | 13:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, tempest from the host should be able to reach your instance with or without nat | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Use keystone v3 service type argument https://review.openstack.org/232530 | 13:55 |
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| clarkb | you can attach a brodge to a bridge | 14:05 |
| * clarkb dispells this myth again | 14:05 | |
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| clarkb | at least it seems to work fine with nova net and br100 attaching to bf_flat | 14:07 |
| clarkb | *br_flat | 14:07 |
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| mordred | clarkb: so really I'd just want to tell neutron that the provider network interfaces is br100? | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: i think nova-net is a bit different than neutron | 14:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | last i checked, if you try to use a bridge in interface mappings, it'll break. | 14:15 |
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| mordred | so - here's the thing | 14:15 |
| mordred | currently, devstack sets up a network called "public" | 14:16 |
| mordred | this network is from where it gives 'public' ips in a devstack run | 14:16 |
| mordred | so something is doing the work to create a fake network that looks like a public network, yeah? | 14:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | is this with ovs? | 14:16 |
| mordred | what I want is a devstack config that I can run in the gate that allows me to boot vms directly on that network rather than having to use floating ips to get an ip on that network | 14:17 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: this is with whatever devstack does when it's run - the default devstack config with neutron gives you a floating-ip setup | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, thats ovs | 14:17 |
| mordred | k | 14:17 |
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| * mordred is caring about user interface to cloud right now, not operator implementation of interface | 14:17 | |
| mordred | so I'd like to be able to test the pattern where "nova boot" automatically gets me a directly dhcp'd IP on the public network and where floating ips are not necessary | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | with ovs, you use a bridge mapping and ovs handles the magic for vm plumbing. for example, br-ex. you create that using ovs and put an IP on it, tell neutron about br-ex, and life is good. | 14:19 |
| mordred | I _think_ based on this that potentially all I need to do is update the network to set shared=True and then delete the private network and it should just work, yeah? | 14:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you want real connectivity, you use ovs to plug an interface like eth1 into br-ex. neutron doesn't need to know about it. | 14:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mordred: is this 1 node? | 14:19 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: yes. I'm basically talking about devstack-gate nodes at the moment | 14:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | sticking with ovs, you should be able to create the external network with --shared and don't explicitly disable dhcp... then boot your VM on it | 14:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | if its the only network, you wont even need a net id | 14:20 |
| mordred | awesome | 14:20 |
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| mordred | I'm going to try this | 14:20 |
| mordred | and if it works, I will add a shade job that starts by doing that | 14:21 |
| * mordred thinks this should be the default devstack config, btw | 14:21 | |
| Sam-I-Am | it can do both, actually | 14:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is what the new install guide does | 14:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | option 1 = provider network only (what you're talking about) | 14:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | option 2 = provider network + private network | 14:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | in both cases, we boot a VM on the external network | 14:22 |
| mordred | yah. I _also_ want to test option 2 | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | option 2 just tosses a vm on a private net too | 14:22 |
| mordred | but I need to add some plumbing in shade to make the UI suck less | 14:22 |
| mordred | because nics=[{net-id: uuid}] | 14:22 |
| mordred | is a terrible way to say "please boot this one on the public net kthxbai" | 14:22 |
| mordred | :) | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is all with linux bridge, not ovs. i would recommend that we get devstack doing this with linuxbridge too | 14:22 |
| mordred | totally agree | 14:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | the 'get me a network' spec needs some implementation | 14:23 |
| mordred | I would argue that the thing you get when you run devstack with no additional options should be linux bridge and a single shared public network | 14:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | makes sense. nice and simple. | 14:23 |
| mordred | and then you can always neutron net-create a private net if you want one | 14:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | in which case you'll still need the config for l3 and the l3 agent running, but thats not a bad thing. | 14:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/neutron.html | 14:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats all the magic for linuxbridge w/ two options | 14:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus stuff in the 'launch an instance' section | 14:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | (network creation) | 14:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | convert that to devstack + host magic for linuxbridge | 14:25 |
| mordred | ++ | 14:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've found you can always add things to neutron, but not necessarily subtract them | 14:26 |
| mordred | s/neutron/openstack/ | 14:26 |
| mordred | subtracting things is bad | 14:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | ha, yeah | 14:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | aight, i need to find caffeine before things get silly | 14:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | was out flying late last night and didnt get much sleep | 14:27 |
| clarkb | mordred it will work multinode too with the overlay | 14:28 |
| clarkb | but shade doesnt really care about that | 14:28 |
| mordred | nope | 14:28 |
| mordred | shade does not care about the deployment model | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Boot a vm on a shared public network by default https://review.openstack.org/233377 | 14:28 |
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| mordred | clarkb, Sam-I-Am: ^^ this is sort of what I'm thinking as an addition to shade to handle this nicely | 14:29 |
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| mordred | http://paste.openstack.org/show/475967 <-- this is what needs to happen to delete the private network in devstack | 15:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mordred: cool | 15:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mmm precious coffee | 15:28 |
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| mordred | mmmm | 15:30 |
| mordred | coofffffeeeeeeeee | 15:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | required for appropriate firing of neurons | 15:31 |
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| notmyname | fungi: thanks. I would appreciate having it back on again | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: sup dood | 16:15 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: ties have occured in the past: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_5ef3f04b3c641f3b | 18:15 |
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| waynr | is it possible to search for patches in review using the Change-Id? | 20:34 |
| waynr | i should probably just rtfm | 20:34 |
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| waynr | Unsupported Query: Change-Id | 20:37 |
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| mordred | waynr: I mean, you can just put the change-id into the search box and it'll find it | 20:38 |
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| waynr | okay, that works. i should jut randomly paste things into the search field more often and hope they are in scope | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split the nova server active check out https://review.openstack.org/233393 | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add a test for direct attached IPs https://review.openstack.org/233394 | 20:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Accept and emit union of keystone v2/v3 service https://review.openstack.org/233098 | 20:45 |
| mordred | waynr: yes! that's the right way to do thing s:) | 20:45 |
| waynr | :) | 20:46 |
| greghaynes | It is a google product after all | 20:46 |
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| waynr | gerrit is a google product? | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Use keystone v3 service type argument https://review.openstack.org/232530 | 21:05 |
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| mordred | waynr: yup. it's used for Android, amongst other things | 21:11 |
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| docaedo | reading the scrollback, I fully agree default devstack should be single node using provider network. That would give people who don't understand the nuances of neutron a system that "just works" so they can get their feet wet :) | 21:18 |
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| docaedo | er, not single node, single nic (but I suppose also single node) | 21:22 |
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| waynr | hmm is google an openstack company? | 21:23 |
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| mordred | I mean - they're involved somewhat at this point | 21:31 |
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| mordred | but there was no involvement between google and openstack when we moved to using gerrit | 21:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Accept and emit union of keystone v2/v3 service https://review.openstack.org/233098 | 23:59 |
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