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| gongysh_ | hello | 11:38 |
| gongysh_ | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/running-your-own.html | 11:38 |
| gongysh_ | it says the doc is out of date, do team plan to update it? | 11:39 |
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| fungi | gongysh: i think the plan is to replace it with instructions for http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/ | 12:54 |
| fungi | at least for the common use case of running your own ci system based on our tools | 12:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use SNI/SAN on static.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/232748 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split the nova server active check out https://review.openstack.org/233393 | 13:01 |
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| mordred | fungi: I think !== should totally be a thing | 13:08 |
| mordred | fungi: and it should mean something weird | 13:08 |
| fungi | so did my brain when i got close to being asleep, apparently | 13:08 |
| fungi | if that change works out, it's a pattern i'd like to retrofit into our existing https-supporting puppet modules as well | 13:09 |
| fungi | because we have extremely spotty and inconsistent certificate handling and fallback behavior in various modules | 13:09 |
| mordred | fungi: yes | 13:10 |
| mordred | fungi: I would love it if there was a good way that would not confuse us to encode the ssl cert handling into a reusable chunk instead of a pattern | 13:11 |
| mordred | fungi: but my brain gets a sad every time I try to ponder it | 13:11 |
| fungi | that too. perhaps it can be extracted into a separate class? | 13:11 |
| mordred | maybe? | 13:11 |
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| fungi | or module? | 13:11 |
| fungi | rather than copying the class hither and yon | 13:12 |
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| fungi | i think i generalized the important parts this time | 13:12 |
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| mordred | yah | 13:13 |
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| fungi | so, yes, if this works then i'll consult with people who have greater mastery of puppet-fu on the possibility of making it a simple module | 13:13 |
| mordred | also- I wonder if we can get it to produce a chunk of apache config that we can include in a vhost file | 13:13 |
| fungi | mmm... interesting idea! | 13:14 |
| fungi | i think, maybe? | 13:14 |
| mordred | because I also do not like the copy-pasta in the vhost files | 13:14 |
| fungi | if we're forking the httpd module off into left field then we could add it there, or see what the puppetlabs apache module supports and maybe submit patches to extend that | 13:15 |
| mordred | no | 13:15 |
| mordred | nod | 13:15 |
| mordred | not no | 13:15 |
| mordred | nod is what I meant | 13:15 |
| mordred | fungi: oh - I was also going to ask- why do we bother serving jenkins0X on ssl with snakeoil certs? why not just serve over plain http? | 13:16 |
| clarkb | auth secrets | 13:16 |
| clarkb | also I dont recommend being awake this early on a sunday morning | 13:17 |
| fungi | except that i think nodepool doesn't validate the certificate anyway? | 13:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure - but we could serve both 80 and 443 without a redirect and put http links in zuul status | 13:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: no. it's silly for you to be awake | 13:17 |
| fungi | so it's sort of not securing whatever we think is being secured if nodepool doesn't check to see that it's the correct cert anyway | 13:18 |
| mordred | fungi: I think it's the "don't transmit auth secrets in cleartext" rather than "validate that jenkins is jenkins | 13:18 |
| clarkb | fungi no because python "insecure platform warning" | 13:18 |
| clarkb | fungi it is encrypting it though | 13:18 |
| fungi | well, if we don't validate jenkins is jenkins, then it's about as easy to mitm as it is to get your hands on a copy of the cleartext communication | 13:18 |
| mordred | I'm mainly asking because everytime I click on a link in zuul status and then have to click through a security exception - I feel like we're teaching our users to blindly accept security violations | 13:19 |
| clarkb | mordred or store the certs after examination? | 13:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: the jenkins servers get new certs when we rebuild them | 13:19 |
| mordred | because snakeoil | 13:19 |
| clarkb | we couls publish fingerprints | 13:19 |
| clarkb | or use real https or use http | 13:19 |
| fungi | but yeah, there's not strictly any need to https the console log stream | 13:19 |
| mordred | right | 13:20 |
| mordred | that's what I'm saying - we should just http the console log stream | 13:20 |
| mordred | it's not an auth'd connection | 13:20 |
| fungi | or punt to jenkinsless zuul v3 | 13:20 |
| mordred | well, yeah | 13:20 |
| mordred | I mean, I'm very excited about jenkinsless zuul v3 | 13:20 |
| clarkb | fungi and fwiw we dont validate any certs because "insecure platform warning" | 13:21 |
| fungi | clarkb: i know why we don't (though technically we could puppet the list of certs somewhere and match on them) | 13:22 |
| mordred | why is it that we don't just pip install requests[security] to make that warning go away? | 13:22 |
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| mordred | or whatever it is that we're suppoesd to install? | 13:22 |
| fungi | simply agreeing that the current https on the jenkins masters is more of a false sense of security | 13:22 |
| clarkb | mordred well then nodepool woild stop working :) | 13:22 |
| fungi | heh | 13:23 |
| mordred | :) | 13:23 |
| mordred | clarkb wins the early sunday | 13:23 |
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| clarkb | mordred but the real reason is it requires a bunch of C header deps which we didnt want to require everywhere since new python is sound | 13:23 |
| clarkb | libffi-dev and libssl-dev and a couple others iirc | 13:24 |
| clarkb | we could figure a way to whl that for sanity maybe | 13:25 |
| mordred | oh - yeah. right | 13:28 |
| clarkb | fungi probably makes sense to get the certs distributed if we want to install requests[security] or use something newer than trusty | 13:28 |
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| clarkb | fungi or punt to zuulv3 for that I guess | 13:31 |
| nibalizer | ya punt to zuulv3 is something i can get behind | 13:31 |
| nibalizer | if only to push zuulv3 harder | 13:31 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: do you expect the scope resolution in the erb template in 232748 to work given that those are just variables set over the course of evaluating the class file and not actually class parameters? | 13:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add create/delete for keystone roles https://review.openstack.org/231800 | 13:38 |
| nibalizer | im about to get on a plane... | 13:38 |
| fungi | enjoy hurtling through the air at hundreds of miles an hour | 13:38 |
| fungi | may you stop safely at the end | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Align users with list/search/get interface https://review.openstack.org/232079 | 13:38 |
| nibalizer | ive never seen that scope function? before though | 13:40 |
| fungi | that's supposed to be the replacement for the scope lookup function which has been deprecated | 13:40 |
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| nibalizer | neat | 13:46 |
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| nibalizer | when did that get introduced? or did we write it? | 13:46 |
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| nibalizer | i havent really evaluated the change but if variables are in scope i expect scope() to be able to find them | 13:47 |
| nibalizer | in a few hours ill land and go through the mass of puppet changes ive been ignoring during puppetconf | 13:48 |
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| fungi | i think that scope[] associative structure is new in puppet 3 but not sure. i just know that the old scope.lookup() was deprecated and that's what the puppet docs say is supposed to replace it | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Add get/list/search methods for identity roles https://review.openstack.org/231618 | 14:02 |
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