Wednesday, 2015-10-21

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mtreinishnibalizer: ok, yeah so it's not that00:00
ianwpabelanger: ok, seems fine ... need to add that to the monitoring list00:02
mtreinishnibalizer: I'm at a loss for why the console_script would be created, but not the wsgi_script00:02
nibalizerwith pip 7.1.2  (in a new venv, on my laptop) i can reprroduce the wsgi script not showing up00:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Normalize user information
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-grafyaml: Switch to puppet-git_resource
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nibalizermtreinish: if 'console_script' is supposed to be in the bin directory of the venv, it is not00:04
mtreinishnibalizer: openstack-health-api is the console_script00:05
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mtreinishit's the entrypoint type for pbr00:05
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pabelangerianw: Ya, I think we need somebody to look at zuul.log00:05
mtreinishit's literaly like the same code path for either, with just a different template00:05
mtreinishnibalizer: this is weird, I just did the fresh venv test locally and it didn't work either00:06
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nibalizermtreinish: i have two virtualenvs on my laptop, with pip 7.0.1 I get the openstack-health script, with pip 7.1.2 I do not00:07
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nibalizermtreinish: :shrug: Im no expert00:08
mtreinishnibalizer: both of my venvs were the same version of everything00:08
mtreinishnibalizer: ok I have a workaround install it in editable mode00:08
mtreinishno clue why it works00:09
mtreinishnibalizer: in the venv do pip uninstall openstack-health && pip install -e $path_to_openstack-health_repo00:09
mtreinishI'm gonna push a puppet change to do that00:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Set cache information from clouds.yaml
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nibalizermtreinish: ok00:11
ianwpabelanger / fungi / clarkb : my guess is that nodepool has failed in bringing some f22 nodes online, but i don't think we can see that without logs00:12
nibalizermtreinish: hey! nice job00:13
nibalizerwe should put some kind of a check on the install exec anyways00:13
pabelangerianw: Ya, that is what I think too00:14
mtreinishnibalizer: \o/ awesome00:14
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Make gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-ovn voting"
pabelangerianw: statsd should show something00:14
nibalizerprobably refreshonly => true + subscribe  => Vcsrepo[$source_dir],00:14
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russellbproject-config-core members would be my best friends if that ^^^ could get merged quickly <300:14
pabelangerlooks like next grafana dashboard00:14
anteayapabelanger: I need your advice00:14
pabelangerrussellb: GET IN LINE YOU00:15
anteayapabelanger: I am hoping you can help me here00:15
* russellb offers bribes00:15
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Install openstack-health in editable mode
* aspiers offers a bigger bribe for his review00:15
pabelangeranteaya: woah, that might be scary :)  But I'll do my best00:15
nibalizermtreinish: big hi500:15
anteayapabelanger: I'm tired I've had a long day, as I am sure has everyone else in channel00:15
pabelangeralso converts to puppet-git_resource00:15
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anteayapabelanger: I come back from my walk read some backscroll check my email00:15
mtreinishnibalizer: I owe you an asahi super dry extra cold in tokyo00:15
nibalizermtreinish: ill relieve you of your debt if you do the changes I put on the review00:16
pabelangeranteaya: sure, what can I do00:16
nibalizernto really part of this change00:16
anteayapabelanger: see that you have decided to use curse words to express your frustration earlier, I'm turned off by that, decide to just not do anymore work tonight00:16
nibalizerbut makes me a happy puppeteer00:16
anteayapabelanger: I check my email, find that yet another person can't read instructions00:16
aspiersis frowned upon for OpenStack repos? (as opposed to README.rst which is mentioned in
anteayaand we have to revert their stack forge retirement00:16
mtreinishnibalizer: sure, one sec00:17
anteayaand they decided to email me and monty personally00:17
mordredaspiers: we're generally an RST set of people00:17
mordredaspiers: since the sphinx docs ar erst00:17
anteayaand their email to the infra list appareently didn't take00:17
pabelangeranteaya: what did I say?00:17
anteayapabelanger: it is in the backscroll, I'm not interested in repeating it00:17
anteayait seems I"m the only person who cares00:17
mordredaspiers: there is a pattern several projects have picked up of including their README.rst in their sphinx docs with symlinks as well00:17
anteayaso if I am odd person out that is fine00:17
anteayaI can just log off00:18
anteayaexcpet this poor person who can't read instruction now has a retired repo00:18
anteayathat they want reinstanted00:18
aspiersmordred: thanks, suspected so. I'll convert this project's into README.rst (I guess it makes sense even though the project has no Python / sphinx)00:18
anteayaand I'm the only one I know at present prepared to do anything about it00:18
* anteaya makes a cup of tea00:18
mordredaspiers: it's not a hard/fast rule or anything, there are md files in places00:18
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Install openstack-health in editable mode
mtreinishnibalizer: ^^^00:18
nibalizeranteaya: I can take the baton if you like00:19
nibalizeris this person clueful enough to make it on to irc?00:19
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nibalizermordred: mayhaps we have your vote on
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/requirements: Block requests 2.8.1
anteayanibalizer: they couldn't properly post to the infra mailing list it appears00:22
anteayanibalizer: and handing off work to someone else that I am perfectly cabable of doing is rather besides my point00:22
anteayanibalizer: though I do appreciate the offer00:22
nibalizeranteaya: :)00:22
anteayanibalizer: thank you00:22
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aspiersmordred: the existing README is only 4 lines long so it won't be a hardship to convert it :)00:23
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add to cacti
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pabelangernibalizer: git you help author puppet-git_resource, won't mind a review when you have cycles:
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mordredaspiers: :)00:32
anteayapabelanger: have you any thoughts?00:33
mordrednibalizer: wow00:33
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fungimordred: do you recall whether manage-projects still breaks if there is no master branch when importing a repo? if so, we're going to run into that with 21629200:33
nibalizerpabelanger: reviewed00:34
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mordredfungi: I do not recall - but I do not recall that being _fixed_00:34
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pabelangeranteaya: I am not sure...00:35
pabelangernibalizer: thanks00:35
anteayapabelanger: okay that is fair00:35
anteayapabelanger: can you understand my position?00:35
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mordredfungi: I don't suppose there is a way to brose that repo without cloning it is there?00:36
pabelangeranteaya: You are offended if I understand correct00:37
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fungimordred: likely not, but i can tell you it has only a debian/liberty branch with HEAD pointing at that00:37
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anteayapabelanger: I find that folks dumping their frustration into channel verbally makes it a difficult place to work00:37
mordredfungi: yeah. that's gonna be fun00:37
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pabelangerfair enought00:38
anteayapabelanger: as first I have to energetically step over what someone ahead of me couln't take the time to depost in a garbage bin00:38
anteayabut instead decided to throw on the floor00:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Install openstack-health in editable mode
anteayaand apparently calling people's attention to it is insufficient for folks to not to that00:38
anteayapabelanger: so I am hoping you might have some thoughts to offer me00:38
anteayaas my current approach appears ineffective00:39
mordredanteaya: so, I think something you just said highlights part of the problem00:39
anteayamordred: do tell00:39
mordredanteaya: "folks dumping their frustration into channel verbally makes it a difficult place to work"00:39
mordredthat's a sentence that totally makes sense and is reasonable00:40
anteayamordred: I'm listening00:40
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mordredotoh - it's easy to get into a situation where addressing the dumping itself becomes a form of dumping00:40
mordredwhich is a catch -2200:40
anteayayes that is true00:40
anteayawhich is where i feel I am00:40
anteayasince asking folks to pick up after them selves is not working00:40
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anteayaso do offer my some guidance and suggestions00:41
anteayaI would like to hear thoughts00:41
mordredI'm still working on that part - but I think the above at least helps me frame the rpoblem in my head a little more clearly00:41
anteayafair enough00:41
anteayaif others have thoughts to offer do speak up00:41
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nibalizerI don't think we have a document explaing how we expect people to behave00:42
pabelangeranteaya: sorry, I don't. If I have offended you in some way, I apologies to you. If you believe my comments were frustration in some way, I can confirm they were not.00:42
anteayanibalizer: well we do have the code of conduct00:42
nibalizerI know anteaya has a problem with cursing, but I don't think that's something we have written down00:42
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nibalizerso it falls on anteaya to police it, which is exhausiting to her00:42
nibalizerand I can imagine she feels alone when she brings it up00:42
anteayawell to be honest it is about respect00:42
anteayarather than language00:43
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anteayalike if I go to someone's house I ask do I take my shoes off00:43
anteayahouse rules kind of thing00:43
anteayaand do what the host instructs, shoes on or off00:43
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mordredyes. but we're in a trickeir social environment here - in that we do not have a single host00:44
anteayaand if I'm in a shared space, I like the example of a pow wow00:44
anteayaI go with what the dancers tell me00:44
anteayadance clockwise, dance this dance, not this dance00:44
anteayaand every pow wow is different00:44
anteayaand folks aren't assumed to know the dances or the rules00:45
anteayabut if you dance and some does something you watch what they do00:45
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anteayaand some folks make tell you do this or don't do this00:45
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mordredwe have a collective space, which means simultaneously people need to be mindful of each other, and also tolerant of differences of view00:45
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anteayamy point is about respect00:45
mordredand so far we haven't had a lot of success with direct instructions in the form of "you should behave this way"00:45
anteayano because folks do the opposite00:46
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anteayato prove they can00:46
anteayaactually you are a great example of that mordred00:46
anteayanoone is going to tell you what to do00:46
anteayayou make the point clearly and often00:46
anteayaand honestly if you have to get to the point of telling poeople what to do, in a sense you have already lost00:47
anteayaas the pepole obviously are not clear in what the culture is anyway00:47
mordredyes. that's right. which is why I think you are feeling frustraed on this topic00:47
anteayaif they ask what to do, that is different00:47
anteayabut I can not tolerate verbal expressions of anger dumped into channel00:48
mordredbecause thenn they' are seeking guidance and are receptive to instruction00:48
anteayamordred: exactly00:48
anteayaone of the things I value so highly about this team is that most folks don't expect anyone else to address their frustration00:48
anteayathat was the key thing that attracted me to openstack in general and this team in particular00:49
anteayaeveryone took responsi bli;ty for their own emotional state00:49
anteayait was my version of nirvana00:49
mordredindeed. but things happen, clarkb and I have words from time to time, and if those times are too much for people, they can step away for that period of time00:50
anteayaand i hope I have honoured the team and what has been given my by doing the same00:50
mordredbecause often that's what one or both of us need to accomplish the task00:50
anteayaI haven't seen that your conversations with clarkb have been expecting the other to shore up your emotional state00:50
anteayaunless you have been and I am reading it wrong00:50
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mordredno- they are not. ut I don't think we do a ton of shoring up of emotional state in here00:51
anteayano exactly00:52
anteayawhich is my point00:52
anteayathat was what gave me such a clean feeling when I joined00:52
mordredthing is- occasional use of profanity is not something I would classify as asking someone else to shore up an emotional state00:53
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anteayaI will listen to your argument as I disagree00:53
mordredalthough I recognize that you do see it there00:53
anteayabut you go first00:53
mordredto me, admonishing someone else for their word choices is a very forceful and invasive act00:54
mordredas it is essentially telling someone how to feel, react or behave - which assumes a position of authority from which to do such a thing, and places the recipient in a directly submissive position00:55
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mordredthat is much more of an emotional dynamic in both directions, to me00:56
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anteayaokay that has fair points00:56
anteayais there more to this point?00:56
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anteayaI don't want to interrupt00:56
mordredthat's probably fine for now00:57
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Don't duplicate source_dir option
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add site module to deploy frontend to a dir
anteayamordred: okay good points00:58
anteayaand I would really like to get to a place where I don't feel that I have to draw anyone's attention to their word choices00:58
mordredyah. I hear that00:58
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anteayabut at present I don't know how else to draw folks attention to the fact taht they do make choices00:58
anteayaas a datapoint an exchange i had with lifeless last week00:59
anteayathat is toward the end of the exchange00:59
anteayathe point being lifeless told me he was not aware of making concious choices00:59
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anteayaso until folks are aware they they are making choices01:00
anteayaand choose to make them conciously01:00
jamielennoxlifeless: can you have a look at (bump keystoneauth upper constraint) when you get a sec? just a version bump that's passing jenkins01:00
mordredbut quite honestly, I do not think that's going to happen in an effective way in the next several years - US society at least has been moving rapidly towards greater use of and less import give to the use of of profanity01:00
anteayathen they really can't make different choices, even if they choose to01:00
mordredand non-us society has been where we're at for a while01:00
anteayaI am Canadian01:00
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cody-somervilleI can appreciate how impactful language can be and the emotional baggage or trigger a word can have. Is it possible that a word filter might be helpful? Maybe have it remove curse words or replace them with words that are not so painful to read?01:00
mordredwhich is not to say I thin you viewpoint is invalid01:00
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lifelessanteaya: mordred: I found having my language admonished really quite stressful01:00
anteayaI don't use profanity when I work01:01
lifelessjust a data point01:01
anteayalifeless: thank you for sharing that01:01
anteayalifeless: would you like to know that I found that exchange stressful as well?01:01
anteayalifeless: do you feel any benefit came from our exchange?01:01
anteayacody-somerville: I think that is besides the real point01:02
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anteayacody-somerville: the point is if you have to police you have already lost01:02
anteayaand the value you are trying to preseve had left01:02
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mordredanteaya: I feel like you are trying to preserve a value that never existed in this space01:02
lifelessanteaya: I figured you were affected or you wouldn't have said anything01:03
anteayamordred: oh, I thought it did01:03
mordredanteaya: although I do not want you to feel the negative things you feel01:03
anteayamordred: as it is what made me decide to work with infra and openstack01:03
anteayalifeless: thank you01:03
anteayamordred: I'm in charge of my own feelings01:03
lifelessI think that behaviour that affects people such that they lose interest and capacity to do productive stuff01:03
lifelesshowever that is defined01:03
lifelessis a problem01:03
anteayamordred: to expect otherwise is to be hypocrytical01:03
lifelessI've been reading sarah sharps diversity blog posts with intereset01:04
anteayalifeless: thank you, I agree01:04
mordredlifeless: ++01:04
anteayalifeless: have you01:04
lifelessand I think that wht we're talking about here is within that remit01:04
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lifelessso - if I may interject and suggest - lets not focus on what we *have had* but instead on what we *should have* here01:04
anteayalifeless: that is a fair point of refocusing01:04
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anteayalifeless: let's do that01:04
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lifelessanteaya: I have - I posted a link to them to the hp team mail, I thought01:05
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anteayawell given most folks reading now or in logs don't have access to hp email, can we discuss it here?01:06
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anteayalifeless: if you have time?01:06
lifelessyeah, I'm just digging up the url01:06
anteayathank you01:06
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lifelessand doing the review for jamielennox01:06
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anteayaah yes01:06
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lifelessand various other multiplexing thing01:07
anteayawell you do seem to do that01:07
jamielennoxlifeless: thanks01:07
lifelessthis morning was all in-hp stuff at the local office, plus waiting in a queue for our pet shop's computers to come online to buy a pet feeder01:07
lifelessand stuff - I've gotten nothing that I feel responsible for, done, ye01:07
lifelessanteaya: mordred:
mordredlifeless: I'm sitting on  plane. I feel similar01:07
lifelessif you have read this, great. If you haven't, please do - lets pick up once thats read.01:08
lifelessIts not *perfect*, but its a good starting reference point IMO.01:08
anteayalifeless: what do you think is the salient point or points?01:08
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jrollsorry for PDF link, but this is another great read and somewhat related to this conversation:
anteayajroll: thank you01:10
jrollsome bits about how word choice can affect message/intent/etc01:10
anteayajroll: and thanks for the warning on the pdf link01:11
jrolland generally a fantastic read for anyone working on a team anyway :)01:11
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jrollnp, pdfs make me sad01:11
anteayahere is something I haven't been doing: Focus on interests, not positions01:12
anteayaso my apologies, I will look into focusing on interests01:12
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lifelessanteaya: well for instance "Day-to-day community interactions are generally at DISCON level 1 (Everything is peachy), occasionally dipping down to DISCON level 2 (Non-personal Insults) or DISCON level 3 (swearing)"01:14
mordredI like the description of ... ^^ that01:14
lifelessanteaya: swearing is a salient point :)01:14
mordredbecause the next two bullets01:14
lifelessmordred: the video is quite hilarious01:14
lifeless(and informative)01:14
mordreddescribe what we're trying to (and mostly succeeding at) avoiding01:14
mordredI do not think we have much of a problem here with personal insults or threats - which is GREAT (and not the scase in all places)01:15
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jrolland even further, "When microaggressions are pointed out, community members stop, listen, and apologize" <- which does happen01:15
lifelessjamielennox: reviewed; mordred may be able to do the +2A for you01:16
anteayalifeless: so are you feeling the point is swearing is an important part of a community?01:16
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ianwpabelanger: <- should have done this a while ago, add dib builds to the nodechecker01:16
jamielennoxlifeless: thanks01:16
ianwpabelanger: but yeah, builds are ok, so that's one thing01:16
lifelessanteaya: huh, no01:16
jrollthis channel deals with lots of things that break hard and frustrate people; rough language is going to happen on occassion01:16
anteayalifeless: oh okay, I will read again, I am trying to understand the point01:16
pabelangerianw: cool01:17
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jrollhow many times has pip's dep resolver been insulted here (DISCON 2)01:17
anteayajroll: rough languange when you have to continue working on the problem is really really hard to take01:17
mordredjamielennox: I support 1.2.001:17
lifelessjroll: not enough01:17
jamielennoxmordred: thought you might, thanks01:17
anteayajroll: it is fine to say I am disapointed, or I am frustrated, or this is not working for me01:17
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add documentation for third-party-ci setup
jrollanteaya: I understand that. we have a very diverse community here, some people are swearers and slip up01:17
lifelessjroll: we haven't discussed the norm here though01:18
jrollright right01:18
jrollso what I'm getting to is01:18
anteayajroll: that just requires more energy from everyone else working01:18
lifelessjroll: like - if the norm is established and we have consensus on it, we can gently help folk both on induction, and later, to find other ways to express it01:18
anteayaI'm not saying folks don't have habits01:18
jrollI believe that post is saying that swearing or non-personal insults are not good, but are going to happen.01:18
lifelessI don't feel like we have a norm01:18
anteayaI'm saying the habits have consequences01:18
mordredyah. "occasionally dipping down to"01:19
jrollyep, I agree01:19
lifelessI haven't ever dumped on the channel with profanity, for instance - but I have tripped anteaya's comfort zone with my choice of language (both pop culture quotes)01:19
anteayalifeless: and we discussed them when it happened and I felt our exchanges beneficial01:19
lifelessso we don't even need to look at the stress etc of situations to have language that is impacting some folk01:20
openstackgerritSachi King proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting constraints jobs to cinder
ianwmordred: so fedora22 nodes are coming up as NOT_REGISTERED ... the node build logs look ok, i'm wonder if there's been something going on registering them01:20
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ianwmordred: if you could grep the nodepool logs for anything interesting, that would be great01:20
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mordredNOT_REGISTERED is a jjb thing01:21
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ianwi'm thinking that zuul can find no f22 nodes01:21
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jrollmordred: ianw I was taught that means project-config changes haven't propagated to jenkins workers yet01:21
jrollnot sure how accurate that is01:22
anteayalifeless: we seem to have moved onto other things01:22
anteayathanks all for your time and consideration thinking about these issues01:22
anteayaI understand this isn't necessarily what you want to discuss01:22
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anteayabut I am grateful you are willing to take some time and think about them and discuss them01:23
anteayathank you01:23
mordredianw: nodepool sees a ready fedora-22 node01:23
mordred2015-10-21 01:21:39,326 DEBUG nodepool.NodePool:   Deficit: fedora-22: 0 (start: 0 min-ready: 1 ready: 1 capacity: 439)01:23
lifelessanteaya: mordred: I'm happy to pick this up anytime01:23
anteayalifeless: thank you01:23
jrollanteaya: ditto for me, I think it's important (and interesting)01:24
pabelangerianw: mordred: are we sure was reloaded / parsed?01:24
mordredpabelanger: no, we are not01:24
pabelangerI am leaning towards that01:24
mordredpabelanger: doesn't zuul need a restart for that?01:24
ianwpabelanger: well, it should still be working for devstack, as that was ok before that change01:25
pabelangermordred: I cannot remember01:25
pabelangerianw: right01:25
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ianwi don't know how to link to it, but under experimental shows it NOT_REGISTERED now01:25
ianwi'm struggling to think of what else we changed01:25
jesusaurusmordred: pabelanger: i believe nibalizer and clarkb restarted zuul earlier today to pick up a bug fix, is that the fix?01:26
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pabelangerianw: only thing I can see would be the regex change I did01:26
anteayajroll: thank you01:26
ianwwhich seems fine01:26
ianw>>> re.match('^.*-f(edora-)?2(1|2).*$', 'gate-tempest-dsvm-f22')01:27
ianw<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x7f68a4de53e8>01:27
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anteayafungi: compass-install needs to be revived, wooooo01:27
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nibalizerjesusaurus: we restarted zuul to pick up a statsd fix01:28
nibalizerfrom timrx01:28
jesusaurusnibalizer: ah ok01:28
pabelangerfungi: around for a late review: ?01:28
pabelangermordred: ^ if flying become boring01:29
ianwpabelanger: ahh, as you're all probably yelling at me -> re.match('^.*-f(edora-)?2(1|2).*$', 'fedora-22') does *not* match01:29
pabelangerianw: whaaat01:29
pabelangerianw: checking01:29
jesusaurusianw: ah, that leading - is making it not match01:30
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: novaclient 2.32.0 does not work against rackspace
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pabelangerianw: Oh, doh. I was testing the full gate name. Not just the OS part01:33
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pabelangerianw: wait, then how did it work before?01:34
pabelanger /me confused now01:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-grafyaml: Switch to puppet-git_resource
fungianteaya: i'm lacking context on compass-install01:35
fungiwhat was the relevance of the comment? was there a particular review?01:36
ianwpabelanger: so i think the change from this morning is just wrong.  and we might have got confused because there was a period where maybe zuul was restarting and didn't have f22 nodes?01:36
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mordredfungi: compass-install was apparently retired by mistake01:37
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fungii missed that in all the scrollback01:37
mordredI mean01:37
mordredit was their mistake, not ours - but that is not terribly important01:38
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add site module to deploy frontend to a dir
pabelangerianw: sorry, which change?01:38
fungimordred: yep, they're not the first we will have unretired this week, and probably not the last either01:38
mtreinishnibalizer: ^^^ sorry had to rebase that again01:38
mordredfungi: it sort of makes me wish we'd moved the to-be-retired repos too and then just retired them in openstack/ so that unretires weren't a name change01:39
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Match on dsvm-fedora-22 and dsvm-f21 nodes"
ianwpabelanger: ^ that one01:40
mordredfungi: but then if we were going to do that, then moving stackforge-attic and opentsack-attic too and retiring with retire commits would also make sensen - and now that's just a ton of more owkr01:40
nibalizermtreinish: sorry I'll have to swing by tomorrow01:40
mordredowkr, btw, is how work is spelled in an airplane01:40
nibalizerdon't have the computer that logs into gerrit right now01:40
mtreinishmordred, fungi: super naive question, but could you do a new repo import to openstack from stackforge. Kinda like how people preseed a new repo from github?01:41
mtreinishnibalizer: no worries, thanks01:41
mordredmtreinish: you could - but what gets missed when doing that is review history01:41
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mordredmtreinish: when we rename, all the reviews, open and closed, come along01:41
anteayafungi nibalizer
pabelangerianw: so, I am not sure how we are going to match on: gate-infra-puppet-apply-dsvm-fedora-2201:41
pabelangerianw: unless I am missing something01:42
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mtreinishmordred: ah, ok. Makes sense01:42
anteayafungi: yeah sorry, the original email was sent to mordred and me as well as supposed to be sent to -infra ml, but it never made it to the -infra ml01:42
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anteayafungi: mordred being on a plane and engaged with other things, I didn't have any expectation he would act on it01:43
mordredanteaya: there are no snakes, however01:43
fungiahh, okay01:43
lifelessmordred: on the plane?01:43
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anteayamordred: fortunate01:43
Shrewsmordred: sure, steal my jokes01:43
anteayamordred: I did see a snake today01:43
mordredShrews: it's all I do01:44
lifelessNakato: I've lost track, where are we at getting neutron -constraints jobs voting - is there anything I can do to help?01:44
anteayamordred: I saw two partridges01:44
anteayamordred: and while I was watching them I nearly missed the snake right in front of me01:44
mordredanteaya: oh my!01:44
fungianteaya: well, anyway, i expect we can just proceed as we did with network-bigswitch (project-config change to restore the acl and jobs, compass-install change to revert HEAD)01:44
anteayamordred: it was a beautiful garter snake01:44
anteayafungi: yeah that is what I suggested they submit for patches in my email reply01:45
fungianteaya: and then we can add an entry for it to the upcoming rename planning01:45
Nakatolifeless: Well, it's alll there in non-voting form, so we probably just need to have a chat see when they are ready for that.  Then I can go set it up in project config.01:45
anteayafungi: or should we do those patches?01:45
anteayafungi: yup01:45
fungianteaya: if they can take a stab at the patches, that would be best (mainly because we're already all pretty busy, i'm sure)01:45
lifelessNakato: I wonder if we can pull out the zuul history since they all went in and see if we have any false failures?01:45
anteayafungi: yeah that is what I figured, even a half hearted attempted is worth it01:46
fungianteaya: but if they have trouble figuring out how to splice in the old acl and zuul configuration from the git history, i'm happy to help01:46
anteayafungi: okey dokey01:46
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anteayalet's see what they come back with01:46
mordredlifeless: sounds like a job for eleasticsearch01:46
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fungithough for tonight i think i'm done01:46
lifelessNakato: I believe tchaypo1 may also have a script01:46
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lifelessmordred: ^01:47
anteayafungi: yup, me too I think01:47
anteayafungi: happy evening01:47
fungiyou too anteaya01:47
mordredanteaya: ah! I have gotten your email01:47
mordredI now agree that you said those things01:47
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anteayafungi: thanks01:48
anteayamordred: the compass- email?01:48
tchaypoScript for?01:48
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PietDoes anyone know how to update the descriptions for the sessions at the Tokyo summit?  I would like to add a little more detail to
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mordredanteaya: yes01:48
tchaypoLifeless: prepare repos?01:49
anteayamordred: wonderful, now you are all up to date01:49
anteayamordred: good night01:49
anteayaPiet: I do not01:49
mordredanteaya: sleep well!01:49
anteayamordred: thank you safe travels01:49
lifelesstchaypo: determine success/failure rate of a given job01:49
mordredPiet: I have heard tell that they are sparse on purpose01:49
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mordredPiet: but might be more wordy here:
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mordredPiet: but I really don't know01:51
PietIsn't that weird?01:51
lifelessPiet: what session in particular do you want to enhance?01:51
mordredPiet: there is a constant balancing act in trying to keep spectators out of design summit sessions01:52
mordredPiet: which has worked better and worse at various times01:52
lifelessPiet: so yes, both of those are work sessions01:53
lifelessPiet: which are deliberately vague to avoid having 400 people come in to participate01:53
PietYep.  I'm actually getting ready to send an email to some folks that I would like at the sessions01:53
PietMakes sense01:53
lifelessPiet: they could be a little more specific; I believe the sched API key is owned by a little web ui, and folk doing scheduling have access to that01:54
lifelessbut since i wasn't cursed with that this cycle, I don't know for sure01:54
pabelangermordred: ianw: So, a thought. Can you kill the current fedora-22 node that is launched my nodepool? In an effort to cause the node to re-register with zuul01:54
PietShameless plug01:54
pabelangermordred: ianw I think that is the issue01:54
PietUser Research Needs for the OpenStack community01:55
PietUX Design Needs for the OpenStack community
PietBTW - I'd like to chat with some of you about getting an open source survey tool installed on a server01:57
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mordredooh. we like installing open source tools01:58
lifelessPiet: speaking of surveys01:58
lifelessPiet: you said uhm, melinda? was interesting in running the survey - would she be using the foundation survey builder, or some other thing? Do I need to care about that, or can I just frame the questions, lead that discussion on the list, and then its all taken care of for me?01:59
PietI may ask for an open source BPM as well, but need to research01:59
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Update .gitignore to vim temporary files
PietWhich project team?02:00
mordredPiet: "Beats Per Minute?02:00
PietBusiness Process Builder02:00
mordredoh my02:00
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PietI'm still trying to understand how to formalize the approval process for UX designs for non-devs02:01
PietOhhhhhhh, Robert!02:01
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PietMelissa Meingast expressed interest in working on the survey.  She just finished some work for the Neutron team to understand barriers to migration from Nova Networks to Neutron02:02
PietShe's very strong at survey analysis and actually like doing developer stuff02:03
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fungiPiet: the interface for updating those is but if you're not set up as the lead for a design summit track you won't probably see anything there02:05
fungiPiet: you might try to reach out to thingee since he's overseeing finalization of the design summit schedule details this time02:06
Pietfungi Thanks!  I'll reach out02:07
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Pietthingee Are you there?02:07
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fungiPiet: you can e-mail him at too. i think he's in mainland china this week so may not be awake yet02:08
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health frontend to status.o.o
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add documentation about openstack-health deployment
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add to cacti
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Update .gitignore to vim temporary files
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pabelangerfungi: can ianw and I request the fedora-22 node in nodepool be manually deleted, to launch a new one. Trying to troubleshoot something02:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Support private address override in inventory
nibalizerpabelanger: what are you trying to test? and how?02:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: bump keystoneauth upper constraint to 1.2.0
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Updated from global requirements
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ianwnibalizer: oh, you're root now too right?02:29
ianwtrying to get fedora 22 back up and running, at least in its limited form02:30
nibalizerya, though my root keys or on a machine I'm ont on right now02:30
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ianwah well02:31
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump openstackclient version in upper-constraints
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pabelangernibalizer: there is a race condition I think that has happened for a single node. punting a rebuild of fedora-22 in nodepool should fix the NOT_REGISTERED issue02:41
pabelanger_should_ because I am guessing, since I cannot see zuul log02:42
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pabelangerI had this issue before with my local setup02:42
pabelangerand the only thing I can think of right now02:42
pabelangerokay, calling it tonight. Up late02:43
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce ITDB Service for OpenStack
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openstackgerritDaniel Díaz proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for matrices' subset in multijobs.
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Use OCC to create clouds in inventory
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Add symlink on local git directory
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-puppet: Populate master and agent configurations on demand
mrc3oh, sorry about that. meant to ask about the tests on 23708203:34
mrc3patchset 2 includes changes on the fixtures, but i'm unsure about the <configs/> (or any other tag)'s placement relative to the other xml tags03:38
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zxiiromrc3: sorry, I'm not following your question what's this <configs/> thing?03:44
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zxiiromrc3: jjb will generate the tags in the order you list them when you code it03:45
mrc3zxiiro, it's a broad question on xml fixtures. does it matter where one tag is position with regards to any other tag? test wise03:45
zxiiromrc3: the order doesn't really matter too much as long as the configuration sections are correc03:45
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zxiiromrc3: the only thing that matters is that your example xml must match the output of what's generated by your code03:46
mrc3zxiiro, excellent! i get it now03:46
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mrc3how much ram do i need in order to run the tests? 16 g does not seem to be enough04:33
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mrc316 g sure was enough -- had a problem with setuptools04:48
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml
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AJaegeryolanda, ianw: I would appreciate a review of some cleanups, please:
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stackforge IRC notification
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Stackforge retirement: Job cleanup
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yolandahi AJaeger sure, looking at that in a while06:36
AJaegeryolanda: thanks, yolanda !06:36
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tchaypoNakato: so, earlier today, lifeless said that he thinks I have a script. Apparently my respones to that didn’t get sent06:48
Nakatotchaypo: Nope, didn't see it06:49
tchaypoNakato: but I’m not clear on what you’re trying to do. I *think* I know which script he’s thinking of06:49
tchaypoDoes it involve pulling various in-flight changes from gerrit down into your local repo, possibly needing to merge together several in-flight changes in the same repo06:49
Nakatotchaypo: Scrape all the jobs since constraints thing went in, find jobs where job passed but job-constraints didn't pass, if there are any06:50
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tchaypoI don’t have a thing to do the scraping, but once you have a list of review numbers, I do have a thing that would let you pull down the code in the review, which would then let you run the tests locally06:51
NakatoCool, flick me a link somewhere and I'll work on making something work.06:52
tchaypoIf tests require devstack, I think my thing outputs a file that has the env vars you need to set to make devstack read the locally-cached repo rather than gerrit06:52
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Nakatotchaypo: I'm thinking what I probably want to do is get a list of hashes since since change went in, then go scrape logs for console.log  and do some comparisons there.  if py34 pass and py34-constraints fail, write to log for looking into, or such.06:56
NakatoStevenK: ^  Does your translation tool do something like that?06:56
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tchaypoif you give it a review number, it’ll find the latest thingy for that review06:57
tchaypobut thingy != hash06:57
NakatoReview numbers shouldn't be too hard.  I'm thinkign the gerrit API can do that.  Just SSH session creation is painfully slow.06:58
lifelesstchaypo: no, I was thinking of the CI dashboardy thing06:58
lifelesstchaypo: which I thought you'd picked up and poked at06:58
lifelesstchaypo: since 'jobs which fail' is a ci dashboardy problem06:58
tchaypooh right.06:59
lifelesstchaypo: re-running the jobs doesn't gain us anything here AFAIK06:59
tchaypothat other thing!06:59
tchaypothe thing that does those reports?06:59
lifelesstchaypo: we're trying to answer the question 'is it safe to make the neutron -constraints jobs voting06:59
lifelesstchaypo: mordred suggested logstash06:59
tchaypologstash seems sensible, if you can craft an appropriate query07:00
lifelessanother somewhat crude way07:01
lifelessgit log in neutron07:01
lifelesspull out the change ids07:01
lifelessgerritlib to read out the most recent openstackci comment from those changes, which will be the one that landed in master (but verify that in case of backports)07:01
lifelessand see if -constraints was reported as success07:01
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tchaypo is the code to make
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shardyMorning all - looking for additional reviews/approval of (project-config change for TripleO), if anyone has time to take a look that would be much appreciated, thanks! :)07:04
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Nakatolifeless: Wouldn't -constraints be broken if anything that broke it landed?07:05
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lifelessNakato: not if its flaky07:12
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lifelessNakato: it might fail spuriously one time in 20 for instance, because of $unknown07:12
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker docs and rtfd jobs
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tchaypoNakato: fwiw, is an ansible role which sets up that script07:22
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tchaypoI use it with a Vagrantfile:07:23
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tchaypothat calls vagrant-ansible, passing a playbook which just points to that role07:23
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openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test networking-bgpvpn master vs. stable/liberty
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jed56AJaeger : Hi07:36
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jed56Can somebody tell me what I need to do to finish to create watcher-specs ? please07:39
jed56this the link of my review :
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AJaegerjed56: have patience, please
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AJaegerjed56: any change needs two core reviewers, and eventually the second review will happen...07:43
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jed56AJaeger :  thank you very much for your answer. I just wanted to be sure that I have not missed something07:45
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AJaegerjed56: Nothing for you to do - unless comments get asked during reviews - for now07:45
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openstackgerritAnton Haldin proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Fix relative path creation
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openstackgerritSebastian Schuberth proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: cmd: Add a fallback for jenkins_jobs.ini to the user's home directory
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Explain official projects
AJaegeraspiers: would the change above helped you? ^08:11
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Explain official projects
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SamYapledoes a full OpenStack functional test occur when the proposal bot submits a "Updated from generate-constraints" patch?08:17
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Explain official projects
mordredSamYaple: we are a giant cannon of running tests :)08:18
SamYapleok so shouldnt be needed?08:19
SamYaplein which case we should even be able to remove the block on 2.8.1?08:19
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AJaegermordred, are you fully awake? I would appreciate a review of some cleanups, please:
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AJaegerSamYaple: the constraints infrastructure is not fully implemetned, the upper-constraints-file is ignored for most tests08:20
mordredSamYaple: yes - what AJaeger said - it's used for devstack tests - but not unittests08:21
mordredAJaeger: I just got off a 14 hour flight so my judgement  may be impaired08:21
SamYapleso >=2.8.0 pulls in urllib3==1.12 and that is broken just not being caught08:21
AJaegermordred: then better get some rest ;)08:21
SamYapleodyssey4me: devstack deploys but no full unit tests so the problem can still exist08:22
SamYapleodyssey4me: regardless of uppet-constraints.txt08:23
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odyssey4meSamYaple it sounds like you're jumping the gun08:23
odyssey4meif the upper constraints file is ignored by most tests, that means that most tests are running with requests 2.8.108:24
SamYaplei agree, which pulls in urllib 1.208:24
SamYapleso if thats not breaking we can remove 2.8.0 block then08:24
SamYaplethe issue is it _is_ breaking08:24
SamYapleas in i see it08:24
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use local puppet module in DIB
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Define local gerrit replication and cronjob only once
mordredAJaeger: look great08:25
mordredAJaeger: +3 to both08:25
AJaegerthanks, mordred !08:25
odyssey4meSamYaple no, 2.8.0 was blocked for a different reason08:26
odyssey4meok, so is it breaking for the gate?08:26
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SamYapleit does not appear to be08:27
SamYaplebut this issue was never caught by the gates before08:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Move local replication directory and repack to module
odyssey4melogstash query?08:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add site module to deploy frontend to a dir
openstackgerritDimitri Mazmanov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Kingbird to the project list
odyssey4meSamYaple is was caught be grenade, as per the bug registered08:28
SamYaplemordred: i am suppose to talk with you about setting up repo mirrors for infra08:29
SamYapleclarkb said you did some work on that already08:29
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SamYapleodyssey4me: ok let me hammer on it some more and find the breakdown. im confused as to why urllib == 1.12 works now with no change to glanceclient08:30
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Start using local replication features from gerrit module
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Stackforge retirement: Job cleanup
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stackforge IRC notification
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Properly setup of jenkins keys
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tlbrfungi: hi, could you please help with merging
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use local puppet module in DIB
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fsantorohi all.. is it possible that zuul post comments to gerrit even if no corresponding job was triggered? In particular a comment like Build successful with no links to results08:44
fsantorofor instance this patch cisco and 6wind CI
openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename project networking-bagpipe(-l2)
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openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds the 1st initial package for upstream infra packaging
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Use OCC to create clouds in inventory
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: novaclient 2.32.0 does not work against rackspace
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tlbrguys, please review
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move networking-bigswitch from stackforge to openstack
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yolandatlbr, done09:13
tlbryolanda, thank you :)09:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Adds the 1st initial package for upstream infra packaging
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use local puppet module in DIB
openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Juju Charms for OpenStack
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davidshaajo: ping09:46
ajohi davidsha , pong, sorry, I Think I left our conversation in the middle last day09:46
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ajocould you ask in #openstack-neutron09:46
ajosince it's more specific than infra?09:47
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davidsha_ajo: sorry got disconnected!09:48
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davidsha_ajo: no problem, I made a rfe bug report for what I was talking about and hopefully it's a bit easier to understand.09:49
ajodavidsha_,oh, let me check09:50
ajois it qos tagged?09:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1508384 in neutron "QoS proxy functions" [Undecided,New]09:50
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davidsha_There goes my last login...09:50
ajodavidsha_: ack, reading09:52
ajoah, davidsha_ , yes, this is something we've been thinking about,09:52
ajodavidsha_, we started like this to have a consistent REST api design09:53
ajodavidsha_: the issue, in the client, is how to make the arguments and help dependent on the rule type09:53
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ajootherwise we ended up with a big crunch of optional arguments when you did neutron qos-rule-update --help09:53
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davidsha_ajo: thats what I was thinking as well, would it be possible to make specifying a rule mandatory for that?09:54
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davidsha_with generic help text about needing a specified rule for more detailed information.09:55
ajoyou can make the rule mandatory, but, I don't know how to make the rule-specific arguments plugged per-rule type09:56
ajoif you discover how to make that, that'd be great09:56
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davidsha_I'll look into it and let you know what I come up with, would it be possible to put it on the agenda for the QoS meeting this evening?09:59
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davidsha_I won't be at the summit so the opinions I get from the meeting would be good to work off till everyone is back.10:00
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Juju Charms for OpenStack
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Explain official projects
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: use cp always instead of mv / cp logic
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Install IPA in a virtual enviroment
aspiersinfra-root: if it's considered bad netiquette to chase for reviews then please accept my apologies and ignore; if not, a second +2 for this one-line change would be awesome, since people already discovered the new IRC channel and it would be nice for eavesdrop to have a fairly complete set of logs for the new channel :)
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project
openstackgerritDave McCowan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Project Marshal
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openstackgerritDimitri Mazmanov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Kingbird to the project list
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Congress tempest plugin
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add `npm shrinkwrap` to `npm run` macro.
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Deletegate gerrit project ownership
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: open stable/liberty for trove
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kozhukalov_SergeyLukjanov, others, could you please take a look at these?
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kozhukalov_thanks in advance11:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Create openstack/puppet-openstack-release-tools
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements for Kolla
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable stable branches for tripleo repositories
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-ciwatch module to openstack-infra
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove redundant sections of tripleo job names
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove unused gerrit ACLs
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet jobs to fuel-library
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Oslo to adopt dukhlov's devstack pika plugin
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odyssey4meit looks like the theme for<project> has a broken link structure for the 'project source' link on the left - it has an extra '/p' in the URL - does anyone know where this theme comes from?12:05
odyssey4meor perhaps we're meant to move on over to the new theme?12:05
openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project
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openstackgerritJan Klare proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add new periodic job for chef integration testing
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup jobs for the project faafo
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup jobs for the project gerrit-dash-creator
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openstackgerritAndrey Nikitin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new two new fuel-plugin repositories
openstackgerritAndrey Nikitin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added two new fuel-plugin repositories
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openstackgerritSebastian Schuberth proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: cmd: Add a fallback for jenkins_jobs.ini to the user's home directory
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: rally: ceilometer-alarm is deprecated
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: heat: remove legacy functional jobs
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: heat: ceilometer-alarm is deprecated
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add heatclient support
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Abstract out the name of the name key
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flyingtthi, could any core reviewer take a review on this patch:
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openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add doc8 job to run doc8 testing
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AJaegerinfra-root, since there was some discussion about official projects and I see non-official projects that like to  publish to docs.o.o, I wrote up the following patch and like your review so that we can reference this:
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openstackgerritMateusz Matuszkowiak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new Openstack repository for Fuel Netwok-Node plugin integration
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Add freezegun to global requirements
openstackgerritAlexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
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openstackgerritAndrey Nikitin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: xAdded two new fuel-plugin repositories
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openstackgerritAndrey Nikitin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added two new fuel-plugin repositories
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fungiodyssey4me: i believe dhellmann put together a fix for that, though it may not be merged/released yet13:29
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odyssey4mefungi yeah, just found the ML thread and the fix which merged yesterday13:29
odyssey4meit doesn't render locally properly though13:30
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fungiodyssey4me: the fix involves adding the correct source code url to your doc/source/conf.py13:30
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fungiit makes it configurable, it doesn't really improve the already incorrect fallback guess13:31
odyssey4mefungi so with I end up getting the right result in a gate check, but a local build results in a link like this:
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fungiinteresting. like it's not finding that in your or something13:33
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odyssey4meoddly, for samueldmq gave him on a local build13:34
fungiodyssey4me: are you sure the right version of oslosphinx is getting used?13:34
odyssey4methe '.git' is extra13:34
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odyssey4meah, now that could be a thing13:34
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fungiright, both of those incorrectly mangled urls are possibilities i pointed out in the review for the oslosphinx fix as ways the fallback could be improved (with some added complication), but in the end it was decided not to improve the fallback at all and just let projects properly define their urls in configuration13:35
odyssey4mefungi :) you were right, of course13:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Removing cellspacing from the tripleo ci report
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use the new shortened tripleo ci job names
odyssey4mefungi ah, oslosphinx has ot yet tagged a new revision13:40
fungiright, i would be surprised if it had. that thread and change were from just a few days ago13:41
odyssey4meok, then I'm happy - the change will take effect when there's a new tag13:42
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openstackgerritAlexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
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dhellmannfungi, odyssey4me: that fix for oslosphinx hasn't been release yet, afaict13:54
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dtantsurhi folks, can we have an ironic-lib version bump please? it delays migrating ironic to ironic-lib
odyssey4medhellmann yep :) we can wait13:54
odyssey4medhellmann it would be nicer if it did a better guess though :)13:55
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dhellmannodyssey4me: dims probably won't release it until after the summit at this point, and yeah, I should have just cut the guess out entirely or made it much smarter, but ENOTIME13:56
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dimsodyssey4me: is it a rush order? :)13:57
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odyssey4medims I don't think so - all websites in have broken source links13:57
odyssey4meso I'd rather someone find time to fix the guess13:58
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odyssey4mefor now, it's no change from the current state unless someone has gone an updated their docs/conf.py13:58
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dimsodyssey4me: ok13:59
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dimsodyssey4me: next set of releases would be the week after next13:59
dimson mon13:59
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce ITDB Service for OpenStack
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SamYapleodyssey4me: thanks i figured out where the breakdown was happening to introduce the issue again. master looks a-ok. appreciate the help!14:04
openstackgerritAlexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
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anteayadtantsur: to whom are you addressing your request?14:05
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anteayadtantsur: I don't know who releases ironic-lib14:05
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anteayadtantsur: I'm guessing someone in the ironic project would either handle that or know who does14:06
dtantsuranteaya, this is a requirements patch, not release request14:06
dtantsurbumping g-r, sorry for confusion14:06
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anteayadtantsur: oh sorry, I mis-understood your request14:06
anteayadtantsur: ah okay thanks14:06
openstackgerritXinyuan Huang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Updata jenkins, zuul, and irc settings for project nova-solver-scheduler
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add documentation about openstack-health deployment
openstackgerritAlexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
odyssey4meSamYaple oh? where was it?14:08
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SamYapleodyssey4me: distro packages mixed with wheels, as always :)14:09
mtreinishfungi, yolanda: if you get a sec, the new server is returning 500s on every request. From it looks like it lost db connectivity which we probably don't handle well/at all in the api code14:09
mtreinishI was wondering if there were any more details in the logs14:09
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odyssey4meSamYaple ah, yeah - that one is rather a pain14:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add heatclient support
fungimtreinish: i'll check in a bit14:10
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yolandamtreinish, i can take a quick look14:11
mtreinishfungi, yolanda: thanks14:11
fungithanks yolanda!14:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Abstract out the name of the name key
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mtreinishyolanda: while your looking, it also looks like puppet isn't running:
mtreinishwe might want to turn that back on so new commits will be picked up14:12
yolandai see errors like14:12
yolanda[Wed Oct 21 00:29:16.737117 2015] [:error] [pid 13958:tid 140543488378624] /opt/openstack-health/.venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pymysql/ Warning: Incorrect datetime value: '2015-10-01T00:25:59.616Z' for column 'run_at' at row 114:12
yolandabut nothing now, last one is that at time14:12
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mtreinishyolanda: hmm, ok. thats normally not a fatal error it just doesnt date filter properly (there was a recent fix for that pushed though)14:13
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yolandafungi, aren't our manifests spinning up puppet agent automatically? i had to start it manually14:13
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fungiyolanda: i expect nibalizer didn't think to `sudo ssh` from the puppetmaster and accept the host key14:14
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yolandai ran puppet agent --test and applied fine, but the agent was not started14:16
mtreinishyolanda: heh, re-running puppet which restarted apache fixed the issue: and
mtreinishwell at least until the next db timeout :(14:17
yolandamtreinish, yes, it could have solved temporarily, but i guess it will come back14:17
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mtreinishI'll work on a fix for that, and a patch to add more debug info on 500 responses was merged so it should be there when it happens again14:17
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openstackgerritAlexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove os-loganalyze from PROJECTS
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add a db api method to get a list of test_runs by test.test_id
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pabelangermorning. Looking to get some help from an infra-root on grafana.o.o and a puppet issue.  Trying to understand my grafyaml is not working as expected14:47
pabelangeras this all works locally :(14:47
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add heat support
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mtreinishyolanda: I think should do the trick14:53
fungipabelanger: what specifically do you need checked? puppet doesn't seem to be erroring that i can tell14:55
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pabelangerfungi: for some reason, puppet is not refreshing the exec to invoke the update for dashboards14:56
pabelangerso, either puppet, or grafana-dashboards14:56
pabelangerfungi: can you run rafana-dashboard --config-file /etc/grafyaml/grafyaml.conf validate /etc/grafyaml/config14:56
fungipabelanger: as root or as a specific user?14:56
pabelangerfungi: root should be fine14:57
pabelangersince that is what puppet will do14:57
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yolandamtreinish, looking14:57
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fungipabelanger: yeah, time for you to hate python packaging a little more
anteayafungi: thanks for adding the pointer to the work session :)14:58
fungianteaya: for better or worse, it's my job now14:58
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pabelangerfungi: Hmm. Okay. Let me see if I can reproduce it locally14:58
pabelangerfungi: thanks14:58
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yolandamtreinish, do you want to be on a config file as well?14:59
fungipabelanger: i suspect it's not installed sanely14:59
fungipabelanger: might be missing egg-info or something14:59
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pabelangerfungi: pip install /opt/grafyaml is the command setup to install from local filesystem15:00
mtreinishyolanda: well I set some defaults there which would be what I'd try in a config file15:00
fungipabelanger: well, yes unless what's installed is broken and pip doesn't realize you want it reinstalled15:00
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mtreinishyolanda: if they don't work I figured we can tune them with follow up puppet changes15:00
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yolandaok so at the moment you just leave on code?15:01
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mtreinishyeah, that's what I was thinking15:02
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anteayafungi: :) you are wearing the mantle well15:03
anteaya6wind has found a place in my heart!15:03
anteayayay folks who take responsiblity for their actions15:03
fungipabelanger: but yeah, if i uninstall and then install grafyaml again, --version still gives me that same exception15:03
pabelangerfungi: okay, let me test locally15:03
pabelangerfungi: thanks15:04
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yolandamtreinish, i have +1 rights there only, let me check15:04
yolandawe need correct group added15:04
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yolandaah, no, sorry, is not pupept15:04
fungipabelanger: it's also possible there's some leftover cruft pip didn't remove from an earlier broken install or something... i'll see if i can clean up more thoroughly and retry15:04
yolandais openstack health, is ok to have +115:04
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mtreinishyolanda: yeah, it's a seperate project so a +1 is fine :)15:05
anteayamtreinish: do you have a thing yet?15:06
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pabelangerfungi: okay, I might have reproduced it15:07
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mtreinishanteaya: the rest api is running now15:07
mtreinishanteaya: for example something like:
pabelangerfungi: well, it was broken15:07
mtreinishwhich isn't the pretty pictures15:08
mtreinishbut getting there15:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Use DIB_EPEL_MIRROR when finding the epel-release package
pabelangerfungi: but I deleted /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/*, reinstalled install_puppet and then grafyaml. and works15:08
anteayamtreinish: I think that link gets me .json output15:08
pabelangerso something causing the issue15:08
mtreinishanteaya: yep15:08
anteayaokey dokey, works as expected then15:08
anteayawell done15:08
mtreinishanteaya: the frontend side is up for review:
anteayaah ha15:09
mtreinishthat will take that json blob and make a graph or 2 from it15:09
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anteayamtreinish: question about a sentence in the commit message15:10
anteayait'll cd the js15:10
anteayachange directory the javascript?15:10
mtreinishcontinuously deploy15:10
mtreinishshould have done that in caps15:11
anteayathat wouldn't have helped me15:11
anteayaI'm terrible at acronyms15:11
anteayaand we want tabs in the .html file?15:11
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pabelangerfungi: okay. I know the issue15:11
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pabelangerfungi: a fresh install using pip install /opt/grafyaml works15:12
mtreinishanteaya: they were there, I just copy and pasted15:12
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fungipabelanger: cool--because i can't find whatever cruft is being left behind by pip uninstall15:12
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anteayamtreinish: okay15:12
pabelangerfungi: is the git repo /opt/grafyaml updates to a new release, then you run pip install /opt/grafyaml again15:12
pabelangerit breaks15:12
pabelangerfungi: but, I don't know why15:12
anteayamtreinish: actually that file needs cleaning up, there is some whitespace near the top that can go15:12
fungipabelanger: you might want to pick mordred's brain on that, though he's probably not very around at the momenty15:13
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pabelangerfungi: yup, also noticed the version numbers between --version and pip install are different.15:14
pabelangerSuccessfully installed grafyaml-0.0.2.dev1015:14
pabelanger$ grafana-dashboard --version15:14
anteayamtreinish: and you did use caps for CD15:15
fungipabelanger: well, i've also confirmed that `grafana-dashboard --version` works when my working directory is /opt/grafyaml but breaks otherwise15:15
pabelangerfungi: ya, I noticed that too15:15
mtreinishanteaya: oh, ok. I couldn't remember15:15
fungipabelanger: did the oslo.config teardown merge? i still see vestiges of it in setup.cfg15:16
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tcammannhello is this the right approach to get doc8 testing in?15:16
pabelangerfungi: it should have, left ofver crud?15:17
fungii don't think it matters15:17
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fungipabelanger: you could probably also stand to add [wheel] universal=115:17
pabelangerfungi: okay, will look into that too15:17
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fungipabelanger: the only other thing i'm not sure might be contributing is the package name being not the same as the packages list15:18
fungii don't know to what extent that works or doesn't with pbr15:19
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pabelangerfungi: let me double check with JJB15:20
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fungipabelanger: good point, that's a mismatch too so in theory it does work15:20
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pabelangerfungi: Ya, I think you are on to something... I might have some incorrect code15:21
pabelangertesting now15:21
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fungiVersionInfo('grafana-dashboards') looks maybe wrong?15:22
fungitry a s/-/_/ there perhaps15:22
pabelangerfungi: Ya, that is what I am testing15:23
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pabelangerI think it needs to be grafyaml15:23
fungioh, yep15:23
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fungii just compared to jjb15:23
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fungiVersionInfo('jenkins-job-builder') is what it's doing rather than VersionInfo('jenkins_jobs')15:23
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pabelangerfungi: Yup, that looks to be the issue15:25
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: VersionInfo for pbr needs to be package name
pabelangerfungi: ^15:28
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pabelangerfungi: the odd thing, is puppet doesn't report the issue. I would have expected puppetdb to report a failure15:29
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fungipabelanger: i think the install was succeeding. the exec might be reported as a failure but i'd need to look for exactly when it attempted to fire it15:30
pabelangerfungi: I thought it was the Vcsrepo issue for notify, so I ported to puppet-git_resources last night.  Will have to keep an eye on it I guess15:30
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fungipuppet-git_resources is the new hip thing anyway, so just as well15:32
pabelangermuch cool15:32
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Clean up tabs and whitespace in status/index.html
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anteayamtreinish: ^^15:34
anteayamtreinish: tell me if that works for you15:34
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Enable SNI on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
fungiclarkb: ^ needed a minor syntax error correction15:36
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openstackgerritAndrey Nikitin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added two new fuel-plugin repositories
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derekhThe puppet modules for single_use_slave is starting snmpd here
derekhDoes anybody know if this is used/needed ?15:39
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AJaegerThere's a change to introduce globally a doc8 target, remembering previous discussion we should use pep8 for all style checks instead of separating out doc8. Is that correct? See
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API
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sdagueclarkb: this seems to be correct and working now -
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anteayaAJaeger: magnum appears to want to do something15:46
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anteayaAJaeger: and yes I do recall we trimmed syntax checking but don't have a link to the actual discussion15:46
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anteayaAJaeger: if you are remembering we decided pep8 I have nothing to offer as a contradiction15:47
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mtreinishfungi: do you know if we have an example somewhere of enabling mod_cache on apache?15:47
anteayaAJaeger: I wonder what magnum wants that they feel they need this15:47
AJaegeranteaya: I think we had it here ages ago and it was pep8 but I'd like to reconfirm this.15:47
anteayaAJaeger: yup15:47
AJaegeranteaya: feel free to ask...15:47 the review15:47
anteayatrue, I can do that15:47
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fungimtreinish: according to you may want to look in puppet-cgit or puppet-zuul15:48
jrollsdague: you may find this interesting
jrolllooks like maybe another FS error15:48
mtreinishfungi: ooh, fancy. didn't realize that was a thing15:49
fungiderekh: i don't expect having a running snmpd is needed by any tests. that's probably just bleed-over from setup for our long-lived slaves and general purpose servers15:49
fungimtreinish: it's not a thing (yet), just a poc. it's becoming a thing via
anteayamtreinish: thank you15:50
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API
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derekhfungi: ok, thanks, I might take a look at turning it off from the single use slaves, I'm being asked questions about why is the port open in instances on the rh1 cloud15:53
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AJaegeranteaya: found it - over a year ago:
anteayaAJaeger: you detective you15:54
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AJaegeranteaya: found in my local IRC client archive ;) Thanks to grep15:55
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tcammannI don't mind putting doc8 under pep8, didn't realise that was the "correct" way15:55
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anteayaAJaeger: grep is such a good friend15:56
AJaegeranteaya, fungi, clarkb: One more review request for your stack: A change for infra manual to speak about official projects and what it entitiles:
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anteayatcammann: ah it is you15:56
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2
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tcammannas mentioned in the archive, it is poorly named if that's what pep8 is for15:56
AJaegertcammann: yes, please do that.15:56
anteayatcammann: ah okay, I was just wondering if magnum was doing something specific that needed discussion15:56
tcammannjust want doc8 being run somewhere :)15:57
anteayatcammann: fair enough15:57
AJaegertcammann: running doc8 is something I really appreciate ;)15:57
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tcammannanteaya, AJaeger: thanks for looking into it15:58
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2
AJaegertcammann: you're welcome!15:58
anteayatcammann: thank you15:58
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nibalizer'morning folks15:59
anteayamorning nibalizer15:59
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anteayafsantoro: hello16:01
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anteayafsantoro: nice to meet you16:01
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anteayafsantoro: thank you for being such a responsible third party ci operator16:01
anteayafsantoro: it is a pleasure to make your aquaintence16:01
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fsantorohello everybody16:03
anteayafsantoro: hello and welcome16:03
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anteayayou were telling me something about your process16:04
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fsantoroit was probably my fault but in the zuul documentation i was not able to find any information on how to avoid publishing comments with no logs16:05
anteayathanks for looking at the zuul documentation16:05
fsantoroanyway I backported the patch on top of my zuul 2.1.016:05
anteayayay \o/16:05
anteayahow did that go16:05
anteayafsantoro: and it probably isnt' your fault at all16:06
anteayazuul was built for openstack-infra's needs in mind16:06
anteayaand we don't need to do all the things that third party ci operators do16:06
anteayafsantoro: here is our zuul status page:
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anteayafsantoro: so we are very glad when we meet a third party ci operator who can share their experience with us so we know what you are seeing16:07
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anteayaand we are very appreciate of folks who offer patches so we can fix bugs and make the tooling better16:08
anteayasome of our third party ci operators have been the first alert on some of our tooling bugs16:08
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anteayaand have been the ones to patch them16:08
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fsantoroI understand.. anyway now I am able to publish comments just when filtered files are concerned by patches16:09
anteayafsantoro: marvelous, thank you so much16:09
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anteayafsantoro: would you be willing to post the steps you took to success in the thread to the mailing list?16:09
anteayathen folks who are having the same issue can know there is a solution and how to get that for themselves?16:09
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fsantoroOk sure16:11
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anteayathank you16:12
anteayafsantoro: there are some other great operators I encourage you to meet16:12
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anteayafsantoro: we have third party meetings to discuss issues and compare fixes and patches16:13
anteayafsantoro: many of them are cancelled next week due to summit16:13
anteayafsantoro: but will be held after summit16:13
anteayafsantoro: will you be at summit?16:13
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fungiyep, the reason that wasn't previously implemented in zuul is that for our (upstream) use case we don't expect to avoid running jobs entirely on some changes--we attempt to run at least one job for any change proposed16:14
fungithough that improvement, submitted by another third-party ci operator, was most welcome16:15
anteayaI have to step away from my keyboard for a bit, so nice to meet you fsantoro, and welcome16:15
fsantoroOk I see16:15
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fsantorothank you both anteaya and fungi for your help16:16
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fungiyou're welcome!16:16
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fungigrr... graphite.o.o seems to have bombed again. fixing16:17
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fungi[Wed Oct 21 02:54:58 2015] Out of memory: Kill process 15520 ( score 752 or sacrifice child16:18
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Use the new --conf option to pass in values
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clarkbsdague: where do we look in the grenade logs to confirm that the cached get-pip and cirros image files were used?16:20
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clarkbsdague: the change itself looks good now16:20
pabelangerfungi: I was just about to say that16:20
pabelangerfungi: surprised we don't have anything to restart the process if OOM kills it16:21
fungii cleanly restarted apache2, statsd and carbon-cache on the server16:21
fungijust starting that process again doesn't seem to solve the issue. i think the oom killer may be guessing poorly on what to kill there16:21
pabelangerfungi: Ah16:22
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fungii mean, it solves it for a little while, but i think the leak may be in another service16:22
clarkbsdague: doesn't look like it curled or wgetted16:22
clarkbfungi: we do run those services from HEAD iirc16:22
fungipabelanger: so it'll just start killing carbon-cache more and more frequently until there's no longer enough memory to run it at all, and then it will start killing apache processes instead16:22
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API
fungii've noticed if i restart apache2 and statsd services as well, we seem to go a lot longer between carbon-cache oom events16:23
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ddieterl_general question: is there a way to test changes to project-config repos before changes are submitted for review?16:25
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ddieterl_i need to add tempest tests to a gate and i want to make sure they work before the changes to the gate process are merged16:26
clarkbddieterl_: it depends on the type of project-config change but usually yes16:26
clarkbddieterl_: to test that jenkins job changes work you should run the jenkins job locally16:27
clarkbdevstack-gate has a README will of directions on how to do that for devstack+tempest things16:27
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ddieterlyis devstack-gate a repo or a dir in a repo?16:28
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fungialso, following the devstack-gate readme to run one of those yourself gets you a new appreciation for the fact that zuul and nodepool are firing hundreds of them in parallel most of the time16:30
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ddieterlyfungi: thanks16:30
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clarkbnibalizer: for the elasticsearch upgrade I think I actually awnt to try having ansible do the whole thing16:32
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clarkbnibalizer: so I will write up playbook(s) to do it and go from there16:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/grafyaml: VersionInfo for pbr needs to be package name
clarkb(it occured to me that we have to update 26 hosts and this is why we have an ansible)16:32
greghaynesclarkb: found in image build logs from yesterday - is that just periodic git mirror derping?16:33
greghayneshuh. or do they not have a master branch16:34
greghaynesthey do not16:34
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clarkbgreghaynes: did it break our build?16:35
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clarkbin other news stop trying to kill the master branch16:36
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greghaynesclarkb: yea, our source-repositories generation thing needs to specify not master for that branch16:36
greghaynesor that project needs a master branch16:36
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API
greghaynesor we should not cache that project16:36
clarkbfungi: opinions on giving that project a master branch?16:36
clarkbnot having a master branch breaks gerrit replication16:36
clarkbso its not really an optional thing imo16:36
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greghaynesActually, I think either we should give them master of just stop caching them - its useless caching them unless we pull down the branch they are going to use16:36
fungiahh, yep, so i did confirm that manage-projects did not break on import of repos with no master branch now (it used to) but didn't think to check whether our image builds would rely on there being a master branch16:37
clarkbgah HEAD is even master in gerrit16:37
clarkbso its just broken16:37
AJaegerwhat deb-openstack-pkg-tools does not have a master branch? ARgh ;(16:37
AJaegerNever expected something like that - I reviewed the repo but did not check *that* ;(16:37
clarkbbut its the replication of HEAD that breaks when you delete master16:37
clarkbbecause git push won't update HEAD16:37
fungiAJaeger: yep, i was asking mordred about that one in here yesterday. i guess i should have left a warning on the review16:37
clarkbso in this case HEAD is just broken, but would be broken even if it was attempted to be fixed16:38
AJaegerfungi: blocking the change would have been great...16:38
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fungiAJaeger: well, we didn't have any policy saying it's required, so no idea if we just expected that to be common sense or what16:39
clarkbI am happy to just give them a master branch to fix HEAD >_>16:39
clarkbfungi: its a gerrit requirement due to replication16:39
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fungigreat point16:39
clarkbif you change HEAD in gerrit none of your replicas will get HEAD updated16:39
clarkband since git/gerrit default HEAD to master you are sort of stuck to that16:40
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Fix listPlugins method
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greghaynes\O/ it wasnt the dib release that broke dib image builds16:40
fungii think debianistas are allergic to having "master" branches in their git repos because they want to avoid having any branch names that might conflict with upstream branch names16:40
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clarkbfungi: well they should not use git then?16:41
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clarkbits basically a git requirement16:41
fungithough particularly in the case of this repo it's unfounded since this is a repo for a tool, not packaging metadata16:41
clarkbnow if git could update HEAD between bare repos...16:42
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Install IPA in a virtual enviroment
fungiand yeah, there are ways to make a sane git-based packaging workflow even if you have some branches named the same thing as your upstreams16:42
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fungibut not all distro package maintainers are git durus either16:43
clarkbso what do we think? forced master to fix HEAD, or just send email and blacklist that project in image builds, or?16:44
fungicreate an empty master branch16:44
clarkbfungi: based on the 0 commit?16:44
clarkbhrm will that even work?16:44
clarkbwe shall find out16:44
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greghaynesfungi: Any idea when that project add commit went in? I'm curious if there are potentially other projects that might also be missing master which we wont find until tomorrows image build16:45
fungiand make our git import validator job check for missing master branch in the future16:45
fungigreghaynes: in the last 12 hours or so16:45
clarkbwe have a git import validator job?16:45
greghaynesah, ok16:45
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fungiclarkb: yeah, there's a job that checks the git url can be cloned16:45
clarkb0000000 is an invalid version16:45
clarkbso says gerrit at least16:45
fungigit checkout --orphan master16:46
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mtreinishnibalizer: when you get a chance can you enable puppet on health.o.o? we've got a couple commits coming in soon that'll be good to get on the server16:46
fungiand then clear out all files in the work tree16:46
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clarkbor just base it on the existing branch16:47
fungi--orphan requires git 1.7.216:47
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clarkband the project can change that with a code review if they choose16:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Update gerrit javamelody plugin builds
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add heat support
funginibalizer: you were the one who launched health.o.o yesterday, right? just wanted to call your attention to the ssh host key step documented at
fungiahh, yep that's what mtreinish was just pinging you about too16:51
mtreinishfungi: heh, I wasn't gonna let him off the hook that easily :)16:52
mtreinishyolanda: if you get another sec it looks like the db connection dropped again on health.o.o, the patch to log the tracebacks should be in place now16:54
mtreinishjust want to confirm the issue is what I think it is16:54
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clarkbmtreinish: if we didnt apply our non default mysql config to the trove db then it has a 1 minute connectio ntimeout (or somehting small like that)16:55
clarkbmtreinish: you can either fix this by reconnecting aggressively or we can update the config and reboot the server16:55
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mtreinishclarkb: yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what's going on16:55
mtreinishclarkb: I have a patch up to try and do the reconnection stuff:
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clarkbmtreinish: assuming a reboot won't be the end of the world we can update the config fairly easily as well16:56
nibalizerclarkb: cool16:56
nibalizerfungi: ah, i thought id done that16:57
nibalizeroh well16:57
mtreinishclarkb: I don't think a reboot would be the end of the world16:57
fungimtreinish: supposedly sqlalchemy will call mysql ping with reconnect enabled in the background. i haven't looked closely at your project to see if you're using it though16:57
mtreinishclarkb: the last network outage caught some issues with reconnection on the gearman worker16:58
fungibasically it's supposed to catch a disconnected socket, reconnect and retry any query16:58
mtreinishbut those should be fixed now16:58
mtreinishfungi: it should, but if I read the docs correctly it doesn't do that by default16:58
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fungioh, grumble16:58
fungii must have misread the sqla docs in that case16:59
mtreinishI could have been reading the wrong section (or misread something)16:59
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fungii trust your reading of it better than mine. i'm notoriously terrible at databasing16:59
mtreinishfungi: heh, I am too17:00
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fungiclarkb: AJaeger: i misremembered. seems like project-config:tools/ just validates the allowed url schemes but doesn't actually clone. i guess that's a potential improvement which would open the door to things like checking for a master branch17:00
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Fix listPlugins method
mtreinishfungi: the thing is it drops the connection now and doesn't reconnect17:00
mtreinishfungi: and our usage is pretty much the default:
fungimtreinish: yep, i was probably mistaken about reconnect being enabled by default in sqla17:01
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SpamapSolaph: hey, so as we were discussing elsewhere.. I think your talents would be useful helping with infra-cloud17:02
SpamapScrinkle: ^^17:02
SpamapSgreghaynes: ^17:02
asselinyolanda, I'm tying to make the system-config changes to move nodepool out. however I'm running into an issue wrt nodepool.logging.conf.
SpamapSolaph: I believe right now what is needed is to build an image that configures veths and vlans statically-ish, and then tell bifrost to put the box's IP on the appropriate statically configured veth17:03
SpamapSgreghaynes: ^ ?17:03
SpamapScrinkle: ^ ?17:03
SpamapSpabelanger: also, how's your schedule for today? Could we maybe sync up on a voice call in about an hour?17:04
greghaynesSpamapS: Yep, accurate summary17:04
SpamapSolaph: you too?17:04
SpamapSall of you17:04
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SpamapSgreghaynes: I feel like we need to parallelize and get some progress17:04
olaphworks for me17:04
SpamapSespecially since I'm giving a vbrownbag talk about infra-cloud next week ;)17:04
greghaynessure, I am mostly getting ready to fly out to tokyo tomorrow today, but I could chat for a bit17:04
greghaynesYea, for me I just havent had any time to work in infra-cloud the past weekish17:05
greghaynesand probably wont until post-summit17:05
SpamapSYeah I'm doing similar stuff greg.. dotting I's and crossing T's and making sure I have a backup CC with a chip17:05
fungiolaph: speaking of next week, do we get to see you in tokyo?17:05
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Enable mod_cache to do API server side caching
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olaphfungi: indeed!17:06
fungiolaph: perfect!17:06
AJaegerfungi, let me see what I can do...17:07
SpamapStimrc: good article. That doesn't change that everybody requires them. :-/17:07
timrcwaynr: Are you going to the summit next week?  I'd love to talk github integration with zuul.17:07
SpamapStimrc: bring on the bitcoin, I say.17:07
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Allow getPlugins to accept a format
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Install IPA in a virtual enviroment
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Allow getPlugins to accept a format
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greghaynesFWIW I used a non-chip card for ATM withdrawls in tokyo less than a year ago and it worked just fine17:10
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SpamapSgreghaynes: ATM's are less stringent than CC's17:10
greghaynesYea, I really had no luck getting people to accept CC's ;)17:10
yolandaasselin, what's the issue?17:11
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Allow passing in nodepool logging template.
ddieterlyis there any documentation on how to integrate tempest tests in devstack for a gate?17:11
asselinyolanda, ^^ but I wonder if it should be part of project-config17:11
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yolandaasselin, i see it uses image_log_document_root parameter, how do you plan to replace it on project-config?17:13
asselinyolanda, well it could be hard-coded there17:14
asselinyolanda, I don't want to open up a can of worms though :)17:14
yolandaasselin, and how that will apply to third party ci, that uses different settings?17:14
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fungiddieterly: you mean like plug extra tests into tempest?17:15
asselinyolanda, 3rd party ci uses the defaults afaik17:15
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yolandaasselin, but what about the downstream users?17:15
fungiddieterly: the #openstack-qa channel is likely to net you better answers on tempest pluggability, if so17:15
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clarkbgreghaynes: with ansible var_prompt that runs before any tasks or is it in order as written?17:18
pabelangerfungi: looks like grafyaml updated on grafana.o.o, do you mind confirming --version works?17:18
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ddieterlyfungi: no, i mean create a gate with tempest tests for monasca17:21
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pabelangerfungi: however, still on Exec registered on puppetdb for install or update command17:21
fungiddieterly: that sounds like the same thing to me (run tempest with your own set of tests)17:21
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ddieterlyfungi: ok, so then #openstack-qa is the place to ask?17:22
mtreinishfungi: it sounds to me more like a jjb question17:23
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Remove unused oslo_config settings
pabelangerSpamapS: sure. I have some spare time in about hour17:23
SpamapSgreghaynes: could you do a 30m call at 11:30? (you and I have a different call at 12:00)17:24
SpamapScrinkle: and are you around today?17:24
greghaynesSpamapS: Sure17:25
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Pass package name to VersionInfo (part 2)
greghaynesclarkb: uhhh, no idea17:25
fungipabelanger: ^17:25
greghaynesclarkb: My guess would be before, otherwise it isnt really useful17:26
fungiddieterly: mtreinish: i don't know off the top of my head how other projects call their own tempest tests in job definitions, but looking at the current corpus of jobs will likely yield multiple examples17:26
pabelangerfungi: GAhh.17:27
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mtreinishfungi: you just install your tempest plugin as part of devstack and call tox -eall-plugin -- regex_for_tests17:27
mtreinishfungi, ddieterly: manila is probably a good example to look at17:27
fungipabelanger: that said, it's likely saned to refactor out the other call to VersionInfo and just grab the one being set there in the init17:28
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fungier, saner17:28
ddieterlymtreinish: yea, i've been looking at manila17:28
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pabelangerfungi: indeed. That is just ugly now :)17:29
pabelangerfungi: not sure why I did that17:29
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warpcPlease review: and
ddieterlyi guess the hard part seems to be setting up a way to iterate and test that the gate and the tempest tests are working17:29
fungipabelanger: seems redundant to call it in when it's already carted around in grafana_dashboards itself17:29
pabelangerfungi: yup17:29
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pabelangerfungi: Ah, I know why. It was done by cookiecutter... and never noticed it until now17:30
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pabelangerfungi: will refactor shortly17:30
crinkleSpamapS: yes i am around17:30
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fungipabelanger: in that case, a patch to fix the cookiecutter repo(s) would be a great addition so nobody else suffers the same redundancy in the future17:30
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pabelangerfungi: Right. I'll check it out and see how to better deal with it17:31
openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
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ddieterlymtreinish: is all the tempest machinary installed in devstack by default?17:31
mtreinishddieterly: yes17:31
SpamapSpabelanger: have you used the infra SIP interface before?17:31
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SpamapSwe had a successful chat on that a few months ago :)17:32
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pabelangerSpamapS: yup, help set it up :)17:32
fungiddieterly: one solution is to start with a job which basically runs no (or a limited set of very simple/dummy) tempest tests and then you can propose additional tests to your project and make sure that job still succeeds before they're merged17:32
SpamapSpabelanger: awesome17:32
SpamapSolaph: how about you? got SIP?17:32
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ddieterlyfungi: ok, but i still need to submit changes to the project-config repo, right?17:33
ddieterlyso, i need to get project-config changed to run the tempest tests, then start adding tempest tests to my actual project17:34
fungiddieterly: yep, so that's where copying the job definition for manila mtreinish recommended would probably do what you want17:34
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Enable mod_cache to do API server side caching
olaphSpamapS: I do not, but can still call in, right?17:35
fungiSpamapS: olaph: crinkle: considered ? you can use phone or sip17:35
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fungii just tested it with an arbitrary conference id and it's up and running fine17:35
ddieterlyfungi: ok, so is there any documentation on how to create jobs and job templates in project-config?17:35
SpamapSolaph: yeah, POTS works well17:36
SpamapSfungi: thats what we'll use17:36
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker docs and rtfd jobs
SpamapSOk, so, we'll do a chat at that time to catch up and re-sync infra-cloud, as much to help me have the most current details and also so we can maybe be ready to make some side-by-side progress if we have 5 minutes together in Tokyo: crinkle greghaynes olaph pabelanger -- 18:30 UTC in Conference #700017:37
SpamapSanyone else is welcome to join if they'd like to, it will be < 30m long.17:38
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Reduce time to reindex Gerrit data
fungii'll try to remember to dial in, just because i don't know as much about it as i should17:38
SpamapSfungi: indeed, joinusjoinusjoinus17:38
ddieterlyfungi: thanks17:38
fungii'll stay quiet, i promise ;)17:39
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move nodepool.yaml from system-config to project-config
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zarofungi, clarkb: gerrit reindex benchmark
fungipabelanger: that second patch was actually the problem, and explains why it raised an exception any time you tried to run it even without calling --version17:40
fungiit was happening on module import17:41
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Migrate to puppet-openstackci openstackci::nodepool
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clarkbnibalizer: jesusaurus comments on 238185 appreciated17:41
fungizaro: that's awesome. a reindex normally takes us ~10-15 minutes on review.o.o, so i bet it'll be way fast now by comparison17:42
clarkbnibalizer: jesusaurus but I think that covers the entir eprocess in an completely ontested but at least complete manner17:42
fungizaro: can you propose a similar update to the rename process documented in the gerrit.rst file in system-config?17:42
zarowill do17:43
crinkleSpamapS: okay, I'll be there17:43
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fungizaro: i'm excited. this could cut the outage for our rename maintenances in half, easily17:43
nibalizerwould people be infuriated by a bot that looked for [0-9]{6} then put the link to the review?17:43
funginibalizer: it already exists and we asked its operator to unjoin the channel17:44
pabelangerSpamapS: sounds good17:44
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add echo test to asterisk
nibalizerfungi: ah okay17:44
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pabelangerrussellb: ASTERISK HACKS! ^17:45
* russellb reviews17:45
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funginibalizer: though if it matched on something like 'review [0-9]\+[^0-9]?$' and also echoed the commit subject line and owner name that might be useful. i don't know17:46
openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project
russellbpabelanger: +117:46
funginibalizer: more along the lines of how the bug feature in meetbot is working17:46
pabelangerrussellb: wee17:46
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pabelangerSpamapS: if you are up for an asterisk review ^17:47
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openstackgerritmostwanted proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: [BUGFIX] Add missing "strExclusionSet" element when using "exclusionValues"
openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project
clarkbnibalizer: fungi I personally take the view that having noisy bots is ok becuas eevery irc client has ignore options17:49
clarkbnibalizer: fungi but I know that many users find that extra requirement on their part to do irc too much overhead or may not realize it is an option17:49
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update command for a Gerrit reindex
zarofungi: ^17:50
fungithanks zaro17:50
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nibalizerclarkb: ya and we're trying to get more people in irc, not less17:51
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project
nibalizerI think i might have a solution for my needs though. I bookmarked and so pasting in the number is fast17:52
nibalizeri'll try this for a while and see17:52
funginibalizer: you can just make that
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project
fungigerrit groks fine17:52
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create network-checker project
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reedImportError: No module named oslo_utils (full trace << brand new machine, I've just installed shade17:55
pabelangertimrc: do you mind reviewing too? This fixes a race in our unit tests with the cache17:55
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pabelangertimrc: will also review your comments17:56
reedbad pip package for shade or cinder client?17:56
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timrcpabelanger: Sure.17:57
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clarkbreed: my guess would be keystoneclient17:57
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clarkbreed: if it imports oslo_utils it should depend on it, but maybe the install failed?17:57
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reedclarkb, there were no errors on `pip install shade` so I don't know17:58
clarkbreed: does pip list should an oslo_utils package?17:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Pass package name to VersionInfo (part 2)
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reedclarkb, no oslo anything17:59
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sdagueclarkb: yeh,  is one of them18:01
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clarkbreed: rae you sure something like the lxml build didn't fail?18:02
clarkbreed: I am instlaling locally and its doing that and I know I trip over it all the time18:02
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reedclarkb, i have the recording of the install session :)18:02
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clarkbreed: I do get oslo.utils installed18:02
clarkbwhen I intsall to a clean virtuaelnv18:02
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reedclarkb, something else may have happened then... let me start a new vm and try again18:03
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects
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AJaegerfungi, check
pabelangerfungi: do you mind checking grafana.o.o yet again? :)18:04
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2
reedclarkb, << before this was recorded, I had a failed install but I uninstalled shade, fixed the missing dependency (python-dev package) and installed shade again18:08
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timrcpabelanger: I look at the embedded md5 hash review later today.18:08
pabelangertimrc: sure18:08
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pabelangertimrc: I think the unit tests is the first one, then datasource. I need to finish tests for that18:10
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reedclarkb, and you're right... that damn lxml thing failed18:11
clarkbpabelanger: the scales on that look wrong18:11
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clarkbpabelanger: we peak at 31 test nodes?18:11
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects
timrcpabelanger: Embedding the md5sum in a hidden row title is pretty clever.  I'll give you that :)18:12
pabelangerclarkb: Yes, it is just dummy data ATM18:12
pabelangerclarkb: need to add datasource18:13
timrcThe things we do for yaml :)18:13
AJaegerfungi, clarkb, the missing master will be found by my new check, see the paste  above18:13
clarkbpabelanger: oh gotha18:13
fungipabelanger: i assume from your exasperated sigh that you don't need me to check grafana.o.o?18:13
pabelangerclarkb: we can do it manually if you like, otherwise have an patchset for yaml shortly18:13
clarkbAJaeger: cool I will hav eto review18:13
pabelangerfungi: indeed. However, I still don't know why puppetdb doesn't list the Exec for it18:13
AJaegerclarkb: run it locally with current state to see it fail18:14
fungipabelanger: not sure either. there's an option to make the exec stdout appear in the log though18:14
pabelangerfungi: Ya, I should research it more18:14
pabelangerfungi: other wise, we don't see failures for some reason18:15
fungiAJaeger: neat! and i think as long as we're merging the cleanup patches regularly there won't be that many so it's not necessry to filter down to just remotes added in that particular change18:16
AJaegerfungi: exactly18:16
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sdaguefungi: how do you feel about this - - a simpler way to handle the cache file population in d-g that we're less likely to accidentally break18:17
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects
* AJaeger added fungi's comment to the review message and removed a debug line18:18
fungisdague: looks like a great idea18:19
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clarkbAJaeger: what was the reason for excluding track upstreams? just because we don't delete the upstream key from the yaml file onthose?18:20
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fungiseems like a fine optimization to me, and they're a corner case anyway18:21
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clarkbAJaeger: my only suggestion would be to consider using a tmpdir fixture to clone into so that the cleanup is handled automagically18:22
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clarkbthat way if clone raises we don't end up with half cloned repo18:22
AJaegerclarkb: yes, agree with fungi - don't want to checkout gerrit each time.18:22
AJaegerclarkb: will do..18:22
reedclarkb, if pip install shade fails because it's missing the libxml stuff... why does it say 'already installed' when I try to install after putting the libxml stuff?18:22
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Use ironic-agent for source-repositories
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clarkbreed: because pip doesn't know that the previous install failed18:23
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reedlooks incredibly delicate18:24
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clarkbreed: try pip install --force-reinstall18:24
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reedthanks clarkb18:25
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nibalizerclarkb: the ansible playbooks looks reasonable to me18:26
nibalizerI'm not sure how we test it18:26
clarkbnibalizer: in production18:26
clarkbnibalizer: actually I think we might break that playbook into many playbooks and run each step at a time to get comfortable with it18:27
clarkbnibalizer: we can basically test everything but the ES upgrade itself safely18:27
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clarkbnibalizer: but the ES upgrade requires us to go all in due to how ES upgrades work so hard to get around that18:27
nibalizerya a playbook just to turn off elasticsearch globally18:27
nibalizerwould be useful18:27
clarkbnibalizer: ya18:28
clarkbI think its easier t oreview in a single document beause the process flows18:28
clarkbso started there (was easier to write too)18:28
nibalizeri like the vars_prompt pause hack too18:28
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nibalizerpabelanger: did your grafyaml stuff get fixed up?18:30
pabelangernibalizer: I did, some puppet quarks however18:30
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects
AJaegerclarkb: hope it's fine now ^18:36
AJaegerclarkb: note that the test is expected to fail - since we have the broken repo in it. Should be fine after removing it ;)18:37
clarkbAJaeger: failing upfront is good shows that it works :)18:37
AJaegerclarkb: indeed, it shows that it catches the error it should catch18:38
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clarkbAJaeger: oh I was suggesting that you use the python-fixtures manager that already does the tmpdir stuff18:38
clarkbAJaeger: not sure if that simplifies the code much18:38
AJaegerclarkb: let me learn about that one...18:39
clarkbAJaeger: we use it in testing a lot but its a generally useful pattern for tempdir use18:39
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AJaegerclarkb: do you have a nice example?18:41
clarkbAJaeger: I think the pypi page has an example let me look18:42
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clarkbAJaeger: you would do with fixtures.TempDir() as tmpdir: repo.clone(upstream, os.path.join(tmpdir.path, 'repo'))18:44
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mordred\o/ jetlag!18:44
clarkbAJaeger: then when you exit that context tmpdir is cleaned up for you18:44
clarkbAJaeger: its just a little les scode but introduces a dependency, up to you if you want to change the code18:45
jesusaurusclarkb: looks like you forgot the elasticsearch node runnnig on logstash.o.o in 23818518:45
clarkbjesusaurus: there isn't one18:45
mordredreed: we're also working on getting the need for libxml removed from shade's deps18:45
AJaegerclarkb: let's leave it as is for now18:46
clarkbjesusaurus: we proxy to the cluster and don't run a client process there18:46
clarkbAJaeger: ok18:46
reedmordred, nobody likes xml anyway :)18:46
nibalizerzaro: comment on 23818418:46
mordredreed: nope :)18:46
AJaegerthanks, clarkb for the explanation18:46
jesusaurusclarkb: oh, huh, I guess I was confused by the discover_node getting passed around18:47
clarkbjesusaurus: we use that to know where to proxy to18:47
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mordredreed: is the current thing that pulls it in18:48
mordredreed: I landed a patch to remove it from ironicclient, but ironicclient has not yet made a new release18:48
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clarkbjesusaurus: however, we should consider running one there so that it can load balance across all of the cluster memers. Right now elasticsearch02 gets all the search queries18:49
reedmordred, ACK18:49
anteayamordred: drinks which are supposed to address jetlag have a lot of pycnogenol in them:
anteayamordred: and happy jetlag to you18:49
anteayaSpamapS: did you happen to record the asterisk call about infra-cloud?18:50
anteayafsantoro: wonderful write up, thank you!18:51
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jesusaurusclarkb: yeah, I'm doing that in my deployment, but it looks like its managed by the top-level module and not puppet-logstash or puppet-kibana18:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Project Marshal
clarkbmtreinish: nibalizer: did we manage to determine why health.o.o was not working?18:57
nibalizerclarkb: I didn't contrirbute anything18:57
nibalizerbut health.o.o/tests does return18:57
nibalizerso it seems to be working now18:57
mgagneSo I installed zuul and I'm trying to setup the web interface. status.json looks to not work, the call never return, even with 'curl http://localhost:8001/status.json'. Is there a way for me to debug further? there is nothing in logs/debug18:57
* clarkb looks18:57
clarkbnibalizer: neat.18:57
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nibalizermtreinish: said that / getting an error is expect18:57
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clarkbmtreinish: is the next step to host the js out of the root location so we can render things?18:57
clarkbmgagne: is zuul listening at that location?18:58
mgagneclarkb: listening to
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clarkbmgagne: and what version of zuul? HEAD?18:59
mordredanteaya: thanks!18:59
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mgagneclarkb: zuul==2.1.1.dev6418:59
mgagneclarkb: so yea, from master18:59
clarkbok that looks like head and we are running head19:00
greghaynesfungi: hey, so on that call there was definitely some audio chop - I think that was coming from the pbx server? Normally not a big deal but I worry we might try and use it at the summit...19:00
mgagneclarkb: great news I guess :D19:00
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mtreinishclarkb: yep:
fungigreghaynes: agreed, it seemed like it was sip users cutting out19:00
mtreinishclarkb: as for the not working, pretty sure it's just db connection cutting out19:01
greghaynesAh, yep, Did I not have that issue at all?19:01
greghaynesI was dialed in using POTS19:01
mtreinishI've got a patch in progress to recycle the conncetions19:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Test networking-bgpvpn master vs. stable/liberty
mgagneclarkb: do I need a complete layout.yaml or is a basic one enough?19:01
fungigreghaynes: it was mainly SpamapS who seemed to cut out, but then again he likes to talk more than the rest of us ;_19:01
anteayais the call finished?19:01
anteayaI just dialed in, and hear nothing19:01
clarkbmgagne: I think you will need a functional one19:01
fungigreghaynes: i was pots as well (well, cell phone)19:01
clarkbmgagne: I am reading the code and its just a basic wsgi server19:02
fungianteaya: yeah, it was 18:30-19:0019:02
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anteayaany recording?19:02
mgagneclarkb: ok, bad layout.yaml. I copied the sample and it works now19:02
anteayaI was offline and just came back and read backscroll19:02
clarkbmgagne: ok19:02
mgagneclarkb: too bad there is no logs about bad layout...19:02
SpamapSfungi: I'll use pabelanger's echo service next time :)19:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker docs and rtfd jobs
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fungianteaya: i think we're still looking for someone to add a recording option for our asterisk19:03
clarkbmgagne: there shouldbe when it first starts and loads the layout19:03
fungianteaya: though i think it would be a great idea19:03
anteayafungi: okay, last time I used sip the sip client had that option19:03
pabelangerSpamapS: Ha ha, that's why I added it. I didn't know if my mic and speakers were going to work19:03
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mgagneclarkb: no much on that side, no ERROR or WARN19:03
clarkbmgagne: but I am not sure what you mean aobut bad layout, the yaml could be invalid, orthe data structure could not match up19:03
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anteayafungi: I recorded it and then uploaded to afs19:03
anteayawhen we had that running19:03
SpamapSpabelanger: I use the skype one on every new device I get19:03
fungianteaya: oh, good point. we could get someone to be designated as the recorder for a call in the future19:03
clarkbmgagne: there is a layoutvalidator to catch many of these issues and it does run at load iirc19:04
pabelangerWe could default the recording on, and just publish by default some place19:04
clarkbmgagne: yup validator.validate(data)19:04
pabelangerto avoid toggling the recording19:04
fungipabelanger: is that already a feature?19:04
anteayapabelanger: well I did ask everyone in the room before I recorded19:04
clarkbmgagne: so more info on what was wrong with the layout file would probably help19:04
fungiand i just don't know about it i guess?19:04
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mgagneclarkb: zuul.Scheduler: Performing reconfiguration and no more details after that. With a "valid" layout, I get the actual config output to logs. So my guess is it's jamming somewhere19:04
pabelangerfungi: yes, easy to do19:04
anteayaas different countries have different privacy rules19:04
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pabelangerjust dialplan update19:04
mgagneclarkb: yea, I'll have to dig more on that19:04
openstackgerritRyan Hallisey proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add Docker job to tripleo CI
pabelangerwe can plan a join message about it being recorded19:05
anteayapabelanger: could we add a sentence to the voice you get when you dial in asking for a conference number to tell people they will be recorded?19:05
anteayapabelanger: ah okay great, yeah19:05
pabelangeror, have dedicated rooms that record and unrecord19:05
anteayano I think the message would address consent19:05
anteayawhich is my concern19:06
pabelanger7050-7099 record by default or something19:06
reedmordred, wow! new shade gives me a public IPv4 on dreamcompute magically, no questions asked ... magic19:06
anteayapabelanger: well that could work, and the message too?19:06
fungireed: shade is dark magic19:06
reedmordred, this means that the documentation we just wrote is already old :)19:06
pabelangeranteaya: yes, recording can be added19:06
pabelangernot to hard to do19:06
fungireed: hopefully it means you can just delete part of the documentation?19:06
reedpretty good stuff, good job19:06
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reedfungi, I wish it was that simple ...19:07
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fungioh, too bad19:07
reedfungi, I realized that the openstack faafo doc doesn't scale as the original writes wished19:07
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reedI'll have to talk to Tom about it in Tokyo19:07
mgagneclarkb: what's funny is that pid file was not created when I used my "invalid" layout19:08
anteayapabelanger: where would the recordings be accessible for download?19:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Magnum: run functional test in liberty branch
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reedthe document expects all SDKs to follow the same structure but some SDKs are easier than others and some steps for shade make no sense19:08
anteayapabelanger: does asterisk take care of that too?19:08
clarkbmgagne: so it sounds like ti failed to properly daemonize so it noticed something was wrong19:08
reedI seem to remember that removing pieces from that doc require major rewrite19:08
mgagneclarkb: I forgot to include the projects section. that was my error19:09
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mgagneclarkb: problem is that daemon is "started" and just hanging there19:09
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pabelangeranteaya: no, we'd move them into a folder and server them via HTTP19:09
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pabelangeranteaya: or some other storage location19:09
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mgagneclarkb: anyway, I found my error, I'll just include validation in my recipes19:10
clarkbmgagne: v.Required('projects'): projects requires projects in the schema19:10
clarkbmgagne: ok, I would expect that the validator would log failures somewhere19:10
mgagneclarkb: sure but I don't have much logs about it19:10
anteayapabelanger: okay19:10
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clarkbmgagne: yes I am trying to figure that out19:10
mgagneclarkb: no rush, I found my issue so I can move on. I thought I had something very wrong19:11
clarkbmgagne: if you grep for 'validate' in your logs do you see anything?19:11
anteayais it just me or could this image tolerate a sharper resolution?
mgagneclarkb: empty result19:11
anteayaoh and by the way, yay menus19:11
openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Pass zuul_revision through to zuul_scheduler class
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mordredreed: how about code sample sectoins for shade with just a comment saying "shade does not require this step"19:12
clarkbmgagne: looks like its handled as an internal zuul event, I bet its not properly logging errors from that19:13
clarkbmgagne: probably worth filing a bug19:13
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reedmordred, I guess that's the quickest hack...19:13
reedthe end document may not look as elegant but probably it's as effective19:13
mordredreed: but yeah, I'd love to talk to tom about that too - it also seems that the faafo assumes a particular openstack deployment (like is assumes floating ips)19:13
mgagneclarkb: already logged :O!/story/105747119:14
clarkbmgagne: perfect, thanks19:14
reedmordred, indeed19:14
mordredof course, it's supposed to be simple and not expose all of openstack's warts - but if it assumes floating ips, it means it will not work on 3/4 of the public clouds19:14
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nibalizerwhat is faafo?19:14
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clarkbnibalizer: the first app documentation, not sure what the full acronym is for19:16
anteayawhat is first app?19:16
clarkbmordred: greghaynes: if I wanted to reboot all my hosts in the iddle of a playbook will ansible hate me?19:16
clarkbanteaya: your first app on openstack19:16
clarkbits basically how to opnestack form the user perspective19:16
mordredclarkb: no- there's even a basic ansible function to wait for a port to be active19:16
anteayaoh okay19:16
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add datasource functionality
AJaegeranteaya: an example application that is used for a document, let me give you the URL...19:16
mordredclarkb: so you could issue the reboot as a task, then issue a "wait_for: port=22"19:16
mordredas the next task19:17
clarkbmordred: cool19:17
clarkbnibalizer: jesusaurus I am considering a reboot of the elasticsearch cluster too just for hygeine19:17
AJaegerthat's using libcloud, there're other variants as well...19:17
jesusaurusclarkb: makes sense19:17
anteayaAJaeger: this is the documentation labs repo, right?19:17
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mordredyeah ^^ tha one19:17
AJaegeranteaya: no, completey different19:17
anteayaAJaeger: oh19:18
nibalizerclarkb: i like reboots, reboots make servers happy19:18
mordredthe first-app shade one is the happy19:18
AJaegerfaafo as app is in it's own repo, document is in api-site19:18
reedit's a demo application written by a team of volunteers to demonstrate what you can do with a cloud19:18
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* mordred highly recommends not trying to use libcloud with openstack - it works very poorly in a broad sense19:18
reedAJaeger is right19:18
anteayareed: I thought documentation was doing that19:18
AJaegeranteaya: api-site is part of docs team19:19
reedanteaya, sure, there is a documentation component and then a demo application to play19:19
clarkbmordred: I probably need some additional delay since reboot will return before it reboots?19:19
mordredclarkb: yah19:19
mordredclarkb: might want to see if you can wait for posrt 22 to not work19:19
nibalizerreed:  the stackforge url in that doc is out of date19:19
mordredreed: oh wait - your code has "auto_ip=False" - you're saying that with auto_ip=False shade still found you a public ip?19:20
mordredreed: becauseif that's the case, that's a bug19:20
nibalizeralso boo for curl | bash19:20
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reedmordred, no, I tried Auto_ip=true19:20
mordredShrews: ^^ btw - if you haven't seen the draft of the shade firstapp19:20
anteayareed: okay thanks19:20
clarkbnibalizer: thats how you know its webscale19:20
mordredreed: ok. good. and that worked. yay!19:20
reedoh... wait... I am now remembering the discussion we had with Tom at the time19:21
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AJaegernibalizer: patches against api-site repo are welcome19:21
Shrewsmordred: firstapp?19:21
reedwe probably already discussed this topic with him... and now I am repeating it because it still makes no sense to me :) ahahah19:21
reedShrews, and
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mordrednibalizer: honestly - curl https://site | bash isn't really any worse than pip install foo or gem install foo19:23
AJaegermordred, anteaya: Could you review an infra manual patch to document "official projects" in the creator's guide: , please?19:23
nibalizerAJaeger: on it19:23
AJaegerthanks, nibalizer. Will review tomorrow ;)19:23
Shrewsreed: mordred: woo!19:23
anteayaAJaeger: thanks I tried to look at that this morning and got distracted19:23
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* fungi is always distracted19:23
fungino idea how i get anything done19:23
fungiwait, do i get anything done?19:24
AJaegeranteaya: thanks - I just want to know whether that points in the right direction ;)19:24
reedfungi, random chaos works19:24
fungiso distracted i don't remember what i got done, if anything19:24
AJaegerfungi: you delegate and enable others to work ;)19:24
fungithanks AJaeger. guess it's time to be put out to the manager pasture19:24
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clarkbmordred: so one thing I find really confusing about ansible docs is there is often no indication of where in a playbook I am supposed to use the thing19:25
AJaegerfungi: I wouldn't have done without your side comment ;)19:25
fungi<- idea man19:25
greghaynesclarkb: just wait until you start adding in roles19:25
reedspeaking of ansible, is there an ETA for ansible2?19:25
greghaynesclarkb: its another level of the same issue19:25
clarkbmordred: for example is wait_for_module a task? or does it go at the same level as a task like vars_prompt?19:25
clarkbmordred: I currently have no idea and will probably have to write a test playbook to find out which makes the docs almost useless19:25
clarkbgreghaynes: :(19:25
nibalizerAJaeger: reed
nibalizermordred: fair19:26
mordredclarkb: it's a task19:26
clarkbmordred: thanks19:26
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mordredclarkb: or, it's a module, but you run modules in tasks, so, same thing19:27
clarkbmordred: ok thats not really explained anywhere as far as I can tell19:27
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anteayaAJaeger: it is the best next attempt19:27
mordredclarkb: btw19:27
reednibalizer, did you check if other samples have reference to stackforge?19:28
anteayaAJaeger: because folks have to prove that they adheare to the openstack way before being approved for inclusion in official projects, I think some folks have a hard time understanding that as a requirement19:28
clarkbmordred: well thats just extr aconfusing because that isn't a playbook and instead is a dir of tasks?19:28
clarkbmordred: :)19:28
AJaegernibalizer:  openstack-sdk-dotnet has been retired, it's still at stackforge.19:28
clarkbmordred: its ok puppet has the same language problem19:28
anteayaAJaeger: and docs won't change that if they don't have that paradigm when the arrived at the docs19:28
mordredclarkb: well, that human is a bad human19:28
mordredclarkb: he wrote a role19:28
anteayaAJaeger: but your docs are as clear to me as I think they can be19:29
mordredclarkb: but is still calling it a playbook19:29
nibalizerreed: i ran git-grep..19:29
nibalizerso no I didn't look very hard19:29
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clarkbmordred: but I think I have what I need to make this work. btw did yo usee my upgrade elasticserach playbook? You should once I add in the reboot19:29
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pabelangercrinkle: so, just thinking about the puppet-mysql upgrade. I wonder if we should import the current version of puppetlabs-mysql into infra, do rename to puppet-db (or something), then do a phased migration into that.  Once that is done, rev up mysql, then slowly port back modules to use it.  Otherwise, I am unsure how to migrate all our modules to mysql without causing a massive roll out19:29
pabelangerwill take longer, but likely safer route19:30
mordredclarkb: neaT!!!19:30
mordredclarkb: I'd been thinking that would be an excellent use for a playbook19:30
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AJaegeranteaya: yeah - thanks.19:31
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crinklepabelanger: I think clarkb has thoughts on that, in theory most of what's currently using a local mysql db could be migrated to trove, and we could avoid the rename dance19:31
clarkbmordred: me too since there are ~26 machines that all need coordinated actions to happen19:31
* AJaeger waves good-night....19:31
crinklepabelanger: here's what i've found that touches puppet-mysql in some way
anteayaAJaeger: night19:31
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clarkbhrm actually if I restart the ES service will start back up again19:32
clarkbso need to fix that too19:32
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mordredcrinkle, pabelanger, clarkb: or we could make our own mysql cluster somewhere19:32
crinklepabelanger: also plus could be helpful in migrating19:32
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nibalizerclarkb: pabelanger a lot of those are trove DBs right? so they could bee removed or marked19:33
clarkbyes only a couple are actually using that module19:33
clarkbthe slaves, wiki, and paste iirc19:33
mordredbut in either case, the idea that modules should not set up the database but instead should take the connection info for databases they consume I thnk its right on19:33
mordredand for those, even if we don't trove them19:33
crinklenibalizer: some are using the module but only downstream users would be affected by breaking it19:33
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mordredwe can make the changes in the module _like_ we trove them19:33
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crinklemordred: ++19:34
waynrtimrc: I wish! Couldn't get $dayjob to sponsor the trip...same problem actually with continuing work on github/zuul integration, sadly as far as spare time projects go I have to choose between JJB and Zuul, and my interest/personal investment is in JJB 2.019:34
mordredand add a puppet-mysql resource in the openstack_project module for that server19:34
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nibalizermordred: I don't follow19:34
nibalizerput a comment block like 'trove db goes here?'19:34
clarkbmordred: and in a playbook using a hosts: directive thing is the host parameter to wait_for implied from that?19:35
pabelangerokay, so it sounds like there are some ideas already brewing19:35
crinklenibalizer: just have the config file for the app take connection data, then leave the actual db creation to something else, either openstack_project or trove19:35
nibalizercrinkle: ah cool19:36
nibalizerso 'not my problem' in the module, awesome19:36
nibalizerI also like the load_module_metadata approach19:36
nibalizerthough that response from davidS is not stellar19:36
crinkleyeah :/19:36
nibalizerI'd be okay with a git pin19:36
nibalizeror... I've thought several times this year about just using master on some of the modules19:37
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crinkleand this will be the story of how nibalizer broke -infra19:37
nibalizerbut maybe thats risk without benefit19:37
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add skip-if clauses for vpnaas jobs
mordredclarkb: no19:40
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch
clarkbmordred: well ^ thats broken then19:40
clarkbmordred: that seems like an odd choice19:40
mordredclarkb: hosts: is where you want to run the tasks - host: is an optional argument to wait_for saying to check for a port being working on a host19:41
openstackgerritBrant Knudson proposed openstack/requirements: keystonemiddleware 3.0.0
clarkbmordred: so I probably need to ru nthis task on localhost as well?19:41
clarkband have one of those terrible iterations across the es hosts?19:41
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mordredone sec19:41
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mordredclarkb: no - wait_for will actually execute on the host that you're running it on because it's special - but that's exactly to prevent the problem you're describing19:42
mordredclarkb: the list of tasks is "reboot this elastic search host"19:43
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mordredclarkb: and you want to run those on each elastic search host19:43
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clarkbmordred: yes19:43
mordredone of the tasks is waiting for the host to come back up19:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Enable SNI on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
clarkbmordred: but apparently I have to explicitly write the host value19:43
clarkbmordred: so its not getting that from the play19:43
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mordredoohhhh. blah19:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Switch Fedora 22 nodes to fedora-minimal build
mordredsorry - I'm still jetlagged19:43
mordredyes, you _do_ need to tell ansible to run the wait_for locally19:44
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mordredthat tells it to run that task not on the host it's associated with19:44
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clarkbmordred: so I like examples but those examples only confuse me more19:45
clarkbbecause the data structure is completely different19:45
clarkband makes no sense19:45
mordredclarkb: sure. so - one  sec - lemme past a thine with your patch19:46
clarkbmordred: well I think i have it19:46
pabelangermordred: agreed about breaking out mysql::server from modules and just using a connection string19:46
clarkbso let me push and yo ucan comment on it19:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: use cp always instead of mv / cp logic
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set BRANCH_OVERRIDE to stable/liberty for akanda/astara
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch
clarkbmordred: ^ how is that19:47
adam_gclarkb, that should do it, right?19:48
clarkbadam_g: ya then when you move on you can either switch back to default or add new jobs to test both things19:49
clarkbadam_g: usually though you would just use default and have stable test against stable and master againts master19:49
adam_gclarkb, ya19:49
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pabelangercrinkle: Another option for the mysql issue, maybe do some dynamic --modulepath somehow, allowing both version of mysql to be installed to the localhost, but changing the path info when we call run_puppet.sh19:50
pabelangercrinkle: it doesn't fix the upgrade issue, but blocks infra-cloud for a bit19:50
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crinklepabelanger: earlier iterations of opened us up for that, but clarkb doesn't feel that's the right direction19:51
clarkbpabelanger: crinkle I thought we agreed to move forward with the split module set while we work to converging?19:51
clarkbI am not sure anyone should be blocked on anything19:51
crinkleclarkb: that was not my understanding19:51
clarkbcrinkle: we had that large conversation in irc19:51
crinkleclarkb: i thought you wanted to use the converged module set19:51
pabelangerclarkb: TBH, I don't know the current plan.  I am just offering to do the work :)19:51
clarkband said "do this while we need to but also work on converging because the set is tiny"19:51
pabelangerso what people want, I'll step up and do19:51
clarkbcrinkle: I do19:52
clarkbcrinkle: but I am not saying you have to use the converged set today19:52
crinkleclarkb: okay I misunderstood then19:52
crinkleclarkb: thank you for clarifying19:52
clarkbno problem. my major concern is that once we have an infra cloud + other things using different modules then it becomes hard to make changes to the various bits that are shared19:53
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clarkband since infra cloud is heavily in dev I think we can work convergence at the same time we work on having a cloud19:53
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crinkleclarkb: nibalizer had a patch that updated the puppet-apply job use the split module set, is that something you're okay with?19:53
mordredclarkb: oh - sorry - I was in another window making you a patch :)19:53
mtreinishmordred, fungi, nibalizer, clarkb: if you get a sec can you take a look at: so we start hosting the dashboard js too19:54
clarkbcrinkle: ya I suggested that we update the job to test both sets in the interim19:54
nibalizermtreinish: is that safe to go now?19:54
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adam_gany other project-config ppl able to help get this trivial merged? ill buy you an asahi next week
nibalizerI was about to ping you about it19:54
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mtreinishnibalizer: it should be19:54
* mtreinish crosses his fingers19:54
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clarkbmordred: are you in a place where pushing a new patchset forks or should I do that?19:54
mtreinishnibalizer: all the deps have landed for it at least19:55
nibalizeradam_g: i got you19:55
mordredclarkb: I can push a new patchset19:55
mordredif you wnat19:55
mordredclarkb: but also go ahead19:55
clarkbmordred: no no you made the edits you should get credit :)19:55
mtreinishadam_g: extra cold or regular?19:55
fungiadam_g: asahi is terrible stuff, donchaknow?19:55
adam_gmtreinish, super dry19:55
clarkbmordred: though does checksum need to double up the {{}}s?19:55
clarkbmordred: same thing with inventory_hostname19:56
adam_gfungi, theres really not much to chose from over there.19:56
fungiadam_g: sake19:56
adam_gfungi, beer-wise19:56
mordredclarkb: yes. thank you19:56
adam_gits eigher kirin, asahi, yibesu19:56
fungiadam_g: right, that's because they have sake ;)19:56
mtreinishadam_g: yeah asahi super dry, but they also have it extra cold too19:56
nibalizermtreinish: okay lets see how it goes :)19:56
fungiadam_g: o'19:56
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fungii'll usually do sapporo out of that lot19:56
adam_ghah offer free beer and you get 2x the +W19:57
clarkbmordred: oh also catting the sha1.txt has the filename in it too19:57
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch
clarkbmordred: so that may not work as is19:57
mtreinishnibalizer: cool thanks, I'll keep an eye on it19:57
clarkbmordred: and checksum is new in 2.019:57
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mordredclarkb: ah  let's revert those change then19:58
clarkbmordred: kk, sorry was catching up on reading docs19:58
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mtreinishadam_g: for whatever reason having it served colder makes it better, or at least I thought it was better19:58
crinkleclarkb: my brain saw and didn't make it to sorry about the confusion19:58
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch
crinklenibalizer: did you make progress on or is that something i or pabelanger should work on?20:00
nibalizernope I didn't do that20:01
nibalizeryours land though20:01
adam_gmtreinish,  i seemed to have good luck finding picture-perfect mugs of beer like this last time i was there.20:02
nibalizer is also where that went to20:02
nibalizerso I'm not sure why we don't just use two tests20:02
pabelangercrinkle: nibalizer: Ya, just let me know what you want me to do. Either here or some etherpad. Just getting up to speed on puppet work that needs to be done20:02
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nibalizerthey are separate20:02
anteayaokay so foundation support was quick to reply, has a pdf to download which has better resolution than the png images embedded in the page20:02
robcresswellHello! Should I be asking in this channel about global-reqs patches?20:02
nibalizerseems like it makes sense to do it with two jobs not one job clarkb ?20:02
anteayarobcresswell: hi rob, you can start here, sure20:02
mtreinishadam_g: nice, that's got to take a lot of practice20:03
clarkbnibalizer: no because then it isn't self testing20:03
robcresswellGreat! Just wondering what the rough turnaround time is. This has been sitting since Oct 8th.20:03
fungi#success is now available in addition to
clarkbnibalizer: generlaly if the question is do we need another job to do exactly what this existing job does I will say no :)20:03
robcresswellThought it was about time to start pestering people :)20:03
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anteayarobcresswell: here is your list to pester:,members20:04
fungigrr... statusbot is mia again20:04
anteayarobcresswell: tough week as many folks are enroute to summit20:04
adam_gmtreinish, or one of these :)20:04
anteayafungi: :( and a success story and everything20:04
robcresswellanteaya: Yep, I've chosen a terrible time to ask.20:04
clarkbnibalizer: adding jobs doesn't scale well when it comes to self testing changes and duplicating work20:04
anteayarobcresswell: but that is your list of folks20:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Set BRANCH_OVERRIDE to stable/liberty for akanda/astara
robcresswellanteaya: Thanks20:04
anteayarobcresswell: welcome20:04
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mordredinfra-root: this was just brought to my attention:
mordredI would normally not post such things20:05
mordredin here20:05
mordredit might have an effect on the gate20:05
mtreinishadam_g: heh, yeah I saw one of those at the jal lounge in narita20:06
clarkbmordred: we have until end of january20:06
clarkbmordred: and should probably not expect any of those feature requests to ever happen :/20:06
mordredhopefully ovh and bluebox will be up and running by then20:06
nibalizeroh damn20:06
nibalizerno more hp20:06
nibalizersorry anteaya i forgot myself20:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health frontend to status.o.o
anteayanibalizer: yup20:07
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mtreinishtimothyb89: ^^^ we should keep our eyes on status.o.o for that to be applied20:07
mtreinishI doubt it'll work the first time20:07
mtreinishit never does....20:07
timothyb89mtreinish: oh, cool, awesome! can't wait to see what happens20:07
anteayamordred: that is sad20:07
anteayago go ovh20:08
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fungimordred: yeah, i would expect to see working ovh and bluebox in nodepool well before that, at which point we'd barely notice20:08
fungibut good to keep on the radar as a looming deadline20:08
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fungi#success is now available in addition to
anteayawhat is the current status of the bluebox cloud?20:09
openstackstatusfungi: Added success to Success page20:09
anteayafungi: yay20:09
anteayafungi: going to mention you got statusbot back in channel to post that? :)20:09
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fungianteaya: i was tempted, but no20:09
anteayafungi: ha ha ha20:09
clarkbanteaya: that is a good question for mordred because I hvaen't really heard anything about it yet20:10
mtreinishnibalizer: heh, so my patch to try and fix the health.o.o db connection issue seems to have broken things20:10
mtreinishnibalizer: when you get a sec can you check the logs for the traceback? :)20:10
anteayamordred: timrc what is the current status of the bluebox cloud? can you say?20:10
mordredanteaya: I have the bluebox cloud20:10
mordredanteaya: we have not yet started attaching it in earnest20:11
anteayais earnest in irc?20:11
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anteayacan he share his thoughts?20:11
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* mordred hands anteaya a sad trombone20:13
clarkbmordred: is that because we need togo through similar test steps as jeblair is doing with ovh?20:13
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mordredclarkb: yeah - also, we get to define our own flavors with our bluebox cloud20:14
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mordredalso - I think there is one issue with booting things on it that I can't remember20:15
mordredthat shade solves - that is trickier than the network name workaround for ovh20:15
mordredso probably after summit we'll make another shade push20:15
clarkbmordred: you ar egoing to tell me that your python has to sacrifice a process for every node booted I bet20:16
clarkb# This fork is here purely to sacrifice the child to the bluebox cloud20:16
mordredclarkb: yup20:16
mordredclarkb: that's the relevant comment20:16
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mordredI honestly don't remember what the issue was ...20:17
mtreinishnibalizer: hmm that's odd20:17
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mtreinishnibalizer: I don't know how the sessionmaker object could not get defined20:17
mtreinishnibalizer: was there a stack trace ealier in the log from setup()?20:18
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mtreinishthat's the function that does the engine init20:18
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purpHi, all.20:19
mordredhey purp!20:19
purpSo, what's new?20:19
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mordredpurp: we hear there's a public cloud sunset planned :(20:20
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pabelangerfungi: will that SSL cert also work for the trystack vhost? It appears to be a wildcard?20:20
nibalizermtreinish: is that what you're looking for?20:20
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mtreinishnibalizer: yep, thanks20:21
purpThat's true. And we need to chat about how that works, and what we can do to fill the gap.20:21
mtreinishsigh, so it tries to use the default on the prod server but local testing didn't work20:22
mtreinishI just can't win20:22
mordredpurp: would it be safe to assume that the infra-cloud servers will be going too since they're in the same dc and managed by the same ops team?20:22
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purpmordred fungi (and others): we should likely gather at the Summit and discuss. I'm working on some bright spots in it, and am hoping that some other folks will help.20:22
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mordredpurp: ++20:22
mordredpurp: would love to20:22
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purpmordred: no, not that I'm aware. If that's the case, I'll make sure they find a home somewhere.20:23
mordredcool. thanks!20:23
anteayapurp: are you there monday?20:23
anteayapurp: many of us attend the joint tc/board meeting20:23
purpanteaya: I land Sat mid-late afternoon.20:23
purpanteaya: I'll be at both.20:23
anteayaanyone haev time for a sit down prior to the tc/board meeting?20:23
anteayawould that work?20:23
anteayaI'll work on finding a space if that time is agreeable20:24
Rockygjust chiming in... any interest on getting a nodepool up on the Huawei public cloud?20:24
mordredRockyg: yes!20:24
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mordredRockyg: we're pretty evil to clouds - but you get good data from us20:24
RockygCool.  I'll try to gather the names of the folks to talk to.20:24
purpanteaya: That would be good.20:24
RockygThat will be at the summit.20:24
mordredanteaya: I'm here already20:24
anteayapurp: okay I will see what I can do about arrangements20:25
anteayamordred: awesome can you scope a room?20:25
RockygAlso, I can probably get mordred an account20:25
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anteayamordred: within walking distance of the board meeting?20:25
mordredoh - by here I meant "in tokyo" not "anywhere near the summit"20:25
purpmordred fungi: let's get anteaya the list of folks to be sure are there (and all others welcome, of course)20:25
mordredanteaya: but I'll see what I can find20:25
fungipabelanger: it's not a wildcard, but yes it's for most of the vhost names on static.o.o. i plan to propose the change to add the rest here shortly once i'm done fleshing out summit etherpads20:25
anteayamordred: ah sorry, I jumped to conclusions20:25
anteayamordred: thanks20:26
RockygAlthough I leave tomorrow for Tokyo, the info might not be gotten until mid summit20:26
pabelangerfungi: Ah, nice. Thanks for the info20:26
mordredRockyg: ++ - is there a public signup page? I'd love to get an account for me so I can make sure shade works20:26
anteayapurp: I'll follow up, feel free to ping me if you have thoughts20:26
RockygYah.  I think the Huawei cloud is gonna be a challenge for shade ;-)20:26
RockygBut, lemme do some research....20:27
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fungipurp: thanks for the help, we'll definitely make sure to find time. maybe we can pull you into an infra session or two even?20:27
Rockygmordred, nodepool would help to drive the Huawei service towards interop.  Big plus...20:27
purpfungi: would be delighted. If you've got dates/times/places, shoot them to me and I'll be sure to be there.20:28
anteayapurp: here is the schedule for infra:
mtreinishnibalizer: should fix the issue20:28
mtreinishwell I hope it will20:28
mordredRockyg: it cannot possibly be more of a challenge than the oter 15 clouds we've eaten so far20:29
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clarkbmordred: you say that but before you know it my process sacrificing comment will become reality20:29
nibalizerand its on status20:29
nibalizermtreinish: we forgot to add it to the top header thing20:29
mordredclarkb: ++20:29
timrcSo What does HP's announcement mean for upstream in terms of nodepool?20:30
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anteayatimrc: we are going to have a sit down at summit and figure that out20:30
anteayatimrc: it means something20:30
purpAwesome. Thanks, anteaya.20:30
anteayabut we don't know exactly what yet20:30
anteayapurp: great thank you20:31
mtreinishnibalizer: oops, it should be on the main index page at least20:31
nibalizermtreinish:  it is20:31
nibalizerwe might even hold off adding it to the header until its, you know, working20:31
mtreinishnibalizer: heh, yeah20:31
purptimrc: Looking to work that all the way through at the summit.20:31
timrcpurp, anteaya Cool.20:32
fungipurp: i think at least a few of us are likely to be attending the board and joint board/tc meeting on monday (due to being on one of those bodies or being interested spectators) so it's possible we could work something into the scheduled lunch break that day, especially if you wanted to lurk the board meeting anyway20:34
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mtreinishnibalizer: so I'm getting a 404 on status.o.o/openstack-health20:34
purpfungi: I'm definitely going to be at board and tc/board. Looking forward to that.20:34
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mordredpurp, anteaya, fungi: also, I'm planning on meeting with folks to talk about topics on sunday20:35
mtreinishpuppetboard says it moved the build dir20:35
mordredI don't want to compell other people to do such a thung20:35
mtreinishnibalizer: is there anything in there?20:35
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purpmordred: as long as I'm coherent, I'm in.20:35
anteayamordred: okay well perhaps sunday then and monday as a fall back20:35
mordredbut harlowja, SpamapS and I already have a sunday topic (that purp might also want to lurk on)20:35
anteayaI arrive saturday20:35
anteayamordred: cool20:35
mordredthere's also tuesday keynotes20:35
nibalizermtreinish: me too20:36
fungii do get in on saturday as well (late afternoonish)20:36
nibalizermtreinish: give me a few minutes, I gotta change locations20:36
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clarkbfungi: saturday or sunday?20:36
mtreinishnibalizer: ok, thanks20:36
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clarkbfungi: I thought you were sunday afternoon20:36
purpanteaya: Let's get the list of essential folks and find out landing times. Would hate to miss someone due to scheduling early.20:36
anteayapurp: understood20:36
purpanteaya: Thanks.20:36
mtreinishfungi: I do to sat. at like 4:30 or something20:37
* purp should likely sort out his Summit schedule today ...20:37
anteayaright now I have purp mordred jeblair fungi clarkb me probably pleia220:37
anteayawho am I missing20:37
fungiclarkb: oh, wait, you're right it's sunday :/20:37
clarkbanteaya: I land 5pm sunday20:37
mtreinishfungi: heh, date line fun :)20:37
clarkbfungi: ya that date line is tricky20:37
greghaynesGotta love the date line20:37
fungii keep getting thrown by both the international date line and the one day late summit start this time20:37
crinkleI'm not sure what the topic is but I arrive sunday20:37
anteayalooks like finding 20 minutes during the board meeting day is our best bet20:37
anteayaanyone know when jeblair and pleia2 land?20:38
anteayaI think pleia2 is there already but vacationing20:38
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anteayaI'll start an email thread20:39
anteayaI'm leaning a private email thread for this one20:39
anteayaany objections?20:39
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crinkleI think pleia2 is in the air now20:40
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clarkbanteaya: its public news, its public we need to do omething with it, discussion here has been public, I don't think it needs to be a private thread20:40
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clarkbbut that may hekp keep us on topic?20:40
anteayaclarkb: very good20:40
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anteayawell it isn't a meeting the world is invited to20:40
anteayaso I don't know what the best thing is here20:41
greghaynesWhy not?20:41
clarkbanyways I intend on being around monday and sunday evening so can be flexible20:41
purpanteaya: re: pleia2 she just got onto her flight to Tokyo from Dallas ~5 hrs ago. Should be there Fri.20:41
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add graphite.o.o datasource for grafana.o.o
anteayapurp: awesome thank you20:41
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anteayagreghaynes: why not invite the whole world to discussing how hp's public cloud going away affects infra and how to migtigate?20:42
greghaynesanteaya: Yes20:42
mordredclarkb, anteaya: I agree re: no need for private thread - otoh - I do think the conversatoin _here_ has been productive and businesslike20:42
mordredso - depending on list, that might not happen (snarky list posts, etc)20:42
pabelangerfungi: which infra-roots are not going to the summit, do you happen to know?  EG: who gets to deal with the fires :)20:42
mordredand I don't personally want to be party to that - but maybe infra list won't be that bad20:42
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mordredalso depending on how initial email is phrased20:43
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fungipabelanger: not sure, though also we can just decide there are no fires20:43
clarkbmtreinish: nibalizer so we are hosting the dashboard on status.o.o and need to figure out the 404s there?20:43
mordredpabelanger: I am not aware of any infra-root's not coming20:43
clarkbfungi: except20:43
pabelangerfungi: mordred: ack20:43
clarkbfungi: did we ever finish up etherpad.o.o?20:43
greghaynesclarkb: what about it?20:44
fungiclarkb: i think so...20:44
greghaynesoh, upgrading?20:44
clarkbgreghaynes: websockets, upgrade, bigger host20:44
mtreinishclarkb: yep20:44
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anteayawell to be honest it is looking like the meeting will be held when the opportunity presents itself during the board meeting day20:44
anteayaeither prior to, at lunch or directly after20:44
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pabelangerclarkb: greghaynes: websockets FTW20:44
mtreinishclarkb: the puppet is supposed to build the js and mv it to /srv/static/openstack-health20:44
mtreinishclarkb: puppetboard says the mv worked, but still getting 404s20:44
timrcI'm just hoping someone steps up to fill the void that does active maintenance on their mysql db's.  I think openstack-infra via the foundation should be able to establish some reasonable SLA.  Resources should not be looked at as donations, but business critical.20:44
anteayaand is entirely dependent on what the other folks who need to have a say are doing20:45
clarkbfungi: greghaynes its trusty with 4GB VM20:45
mtreinishclarkb: so I'm guess it built nothing20:45
greghaynesclarkb: fun20:45
clarkbmtreinish: ok20:45
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* greghaynes prepares for more summit etherpad.o.o firefighting20:45
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timrcbest-effort donations*20:45
clarkbgreghaynes: well in theory ops summit broke it just as bad and we are good :)20:45
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clarkbya we doubled the ram according to cacti so all should be good20:46
greghaynesclarkb: hah. I will be plesantly surprised if it doesnt go down in flames for a summit.20:46
anteayamordred: I understand yes, and agree the discussion has been very productive20:46
anteayaI'm going to eat some lunch and compose an email draft in an etherpad20:46
nibalizerim back20:46
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anteayaand will ask for input after it is up20:46
timrcnibalizer: once again, like a renegade master?20:47
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timrcnibalizer: That song might be before your time.20:47
clarkbfungi: so I agree etherpad should be ready20:47
timrcnibalizer: Early 90s. :)20:47
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clarkbmtreinish: there is nothing in the vhost for health20:48
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purptimrc: Agree, and looking to help resolve that as well, believe it or now.20:48
clarkbmtreinish: there is stuff in /srv/static/openstack-health, I think you just need to tell apache its ok to serve it20:49
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clarkbnibalizer: ^20:49
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mtreinishclarkb: oh, I assumed the vhost there hosted everything on /src/static20:49
mtreinishI didn't tell it to do anything but an mv20:49
clarkblooks like there are explicit allows for the subdirs20:49
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clarkbso likely just need to add one20:50
timrcpurp: Good to hear.  But also it's pretty cool how far we've come with some spectacularly bad cloud API performance.20:50
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purptimrc: Nice adverb you've got there. ;D20:51
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mtreinishclarkb: ah, yeah I see it now. I didn;t update the status vhost template, I'll do that right now20:53
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fungitimrc: actually we used to get some spectacularly great performance from hpcloud20:54
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fungibetter than $othercloud (except for the randomly deleting any long-lived servers we'd try to run there)20:56
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nibalizermtreinish: clarkb cool thanks20:56
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health to status.o.o vhost template
mtreinishnibalizer, clarkb: ^^^21:01
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clarkbmtreinish: +221:01
timrcfungi: Past tense is key to this discussion.  I have no clout here but my personal feeling is that the foundation should establish SLAs with its providers so they take the relationship more serious or at least openstack has a way of exerting pressure to get things back in line.21:01
timrcBeyond back channeling things through employees of said providers.21:01
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anteayatimrc: I think this would be a great discussion to have on the friday meetup day21:03
nibalizermtreinish: +2a21:03
fungithere are definite down-sides from tying foundation relationships to infra resources too21:03
jrolltimrc: curious what you're implying here, currently used clouds aren't performing to expectations or?21:03
timrcanteaya: I'm getting in late and leaving early... I don't think I'll be there for the Friday meetup time for infra :/21:04
jrolltimrc: or more along the lines of "let's make sure clouds don't disappear again"? or something else?21:04
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timrcjroll: I'm saying that performance should be consistent.21:04
clarkbmtreinish: is that the last piece assuming it works?21:04
mtreinishclarkb: should be21:04
mtreinishjust landed the patch to try and fix the connection issues21:05
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mtreinishsee if it works in like 5-10 mins :)21:05
jrolltimrc: I mean, do you think there's a public cloud that doesn't want their cloud to perform as well as possible?21:05
mordredjroll: yes21:05
mordredjroll: I think it's a tradeoff21:05
mtreinishclarkb: there is follow up stuff, like server side caching:
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mordredjroll: 'perform well' doesn't necessarily mean "provide excellent CPU performance for guests"21:06
mtreinishand docs:
mtreinishbut those aren't critical21:06
mordredjroll: some people think "provide predictable performance" is fine21:06
jrollmordred: so data plane performance, then21:06
lifelessor consistency :)21:06
mordredcontrol plane performance is a thing all clouds want21:06
mordredbecause control plane performing slowly is a cost21:06
mordred(usually means something is broken)21:06
jrolltimrc mentioned "does active maintenance on their mysql db's." earlier so it wasn't clear to me21:06
mordreddata plane performance is a thing tey want to get value back from customers for21:07
jrollidk what that has to do with data plane performance21:07
purpjroll: that was aimed at me, not you. ;D21:07
jrollpurp: I don't care where it's aimed, just trying to understand :)21:07
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timrcjroll: That was just a dig.  Because we were suffering from unbearably slow API calls due to lack of maintenance on the db's.21:07
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jrolltimrc: right, so I thought the issue was control plane performance, which is why I was confused :)21:08
* jroll understands now21:08
clarkbmtreinish: while I am sorting out what all needs to be done to upgrade elasticserach, do you know if e-r will need changes?21:09
mtreinishclarkb: not off the top of my head. It depends on how much they changed the api21:09
asselinmtreinish, clarkb yes, there are a few changes21:10
mtreinishasselin: you're running it with a new es?21:10
asselinyou probably want to upgrade the version of pyelasticsearch21:10
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asselinmtreinish, yes21:10
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asselinwhich mean you need to specify the url with port 80 if port 9200 is not what you want21:11
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clarkbasselin: I don't undertsand what the port has to do with it21:11
clarkbasselin: we aren't changing any ports21:11
asselinclarkb, right...if you don't specify a port in the url (i.e. using port 80) then the later version of pyelasticsearch will change it to port 9200. Let me find the link...21:12
clarkbasselin: I see its the lib changing. If we switch the lib version do any of the calls have to be updated that you know of?21:13
asselinclarkb, no..just the conf entry21:14
clarkbok so thats not too bad21:14
clarkband we can change that upfront I bet21:14
asselinclarkb, ++21:14
anteayatimrc: oh that is a shame21:14
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mordredtimrc: to be fair to them - the fact that that db requires as much mainta as it does is squarely on the shoulders of openstack and we should be ashamed21:15
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asselinclarkb, mtreinish need to add port 80 here:
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clarkbasselin: want to propose the change?21:17
mtreinishasselin: does that break anything if we do that now?21:17
clarkbmtreinish: I doubt it would since 80 is implicit21:17
asselinI can propose it. shouldn't break anything21:17
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clarkbthen we need a WIP change to bump the pyelasticsearch version21:17
clarkbwhich we can land after the upgrade21:18
mtreinishclarkb: that's what I figured, but you never know :)21:18
anteayapurp mordred fungi clarkb timrc greghaynes (anyone else who contributed to the conversation) here is the etherpad link:
timrcanteaya: Thanks!21:19
mtreinishnibalizer: so I'm guessing I'm doing something stupid in the puppet:
mtreinishit looks like it's running mv everytime even if a new build isn't kicked off21:20
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Set port to 80 in preparation for pyelasticsearch upgrade
asselinmtreinish, clarkb ^^21:21
anteayatimrc: thank you for participating in the conversation21:21
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nibalizermtreinish: i dont see mv-static-files on here ?
mtreinishnibalizer: it's on site.pp21:22
nibalizermtreinish: you need refreshonly => true on that exec21:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health to status.o.o vhost template
mtreinishnibalizer: ok, will do21:23
nibalizerthat will make the exec fire ONLY if it gets a signal through subscirbe or notify21:23
nibalizerother cheap ways to make exec not fire every time include 'onlyif => 'some shell command returns true' and 'creates => 'path tofile getting created'21:24
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Only run mv if we generated a new js build
mtreinishnibalizer: ^^^21:25
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nibalizermtreinish: lgtm21:29
nibalizerclarkb: maybe can poke that along21:29
* clarkb looks21:30
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clarkbnibalizer: can has review on ? more elasticsearch upgrade prep21:37
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nibalizeris recheck bot an irc bot?21:38
clarkbnibalizer: yes it hangs out in the qa channel21:38
clarkbnibalizer: and reports why builds failed21:38
nibalizeroh sweet21:38
mtreinishclarkb: well it's supposed to at least21:38
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Reduce time to reindex Gerrit data
zaronibalizer: ^21:38
nibalizerclarkb: asselin so this is a noop change ya?21:38
mtreinishmost of the time we get logs failed to show up after 15min :)21:39
clarkbmtreinish: well I think it got properly hosed by the failed upgrade situation with pbr21:39
clarkbnibalizer: ya21:39
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clarkbmtreinish: well the issue there is when jobs fail they write 80MB of console log21:39
clarkbmtreinish: :P21:39
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clarkbcinder is particularly bad I think mriedem said that that was being worked though21:39
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mtreinishclarkb: heh, yeah that's fair21:42
mtreinishclarkb: well we've got something now:
mtreinishnot exactly what it should look like, I'm guessing the build scripts are fubar in openstack-health21:43
mtreinishbut at least it's being hosted now21:43
nibalizercrinkle: can you review and make sure I'm not crazy21:43
crinklenibalizer: sure21:43
clarkbmtreinish: its a thing :)21:44
timothyb89mtreinish: odd, we are definitely using only relative paths, wonder why that's getting stripped21:44
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timothyb89mtreinish: 'it' being the /openstack-health/ subdirectory from all the resources21:44
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mtreinishtimothyb89: did I mv the wrong thing21:46
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mtreinishI did mv openstack-health/build /srv/static/21:46
timothyb89mtreinish: I don't think so, all the files are there and accessible directly21:46
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Change key binding for reverse sort to shift-r ('R')
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Separate search and refine search commands
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add a simple kill ring
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add interactive search to diff view
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add navigation to interactive search
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timothyb89mtreinish: its like the browser is just 'forgetting' to handle relative paths correctly21:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Only run mv if we generated a new js build
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update review-dev.o.o to Gerrit ver 2.11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Set port to 80 in preparation for pyelasticsearch upgrade
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nibalizerclarkb: when do you wanna do the ES upgrade?21:50
clarkbnibalizer: week after summit, basically as soon as we are both alive again21:50
clarkbnibalizer: and hopefully everyone else will be too hung over to notice21:50
mtreinishtimothyb89: well if you have any ideas on how to fix push up the o-h patch21:50
mtreinishbecause I'm a bit out of my element for that21:50
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timothyb89mtreinish: I am honestly confused, this config works fine for me using relative paths on a local webserver21:51
anteayazaro: is there any way I can find out how many registered users we have in gerrit right now? Looking to get some stats down about our usage here:
timothyb89mtreinish: ah, we've got a rogue <base>, I'll push up a fix21:52
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix projects list/search/get interface
zaroanteaya: i'm not sure there's a command for that and even if there was you would probably need admin access.  let me take a look21:58
mordredShrews: ^^ there you go - all rebased and stuff21:58
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anteayazaro: thanks, just looking to see if we can get some numbers to back up my assertion we really use gerrit a lot21:59
anteayaclarkb: can you take a minute and look over:
clarkbanteaya: sure22:00
anteayaclarkb: it is my draft email to the infra list about our impromptu meeting22:00
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clarkbanteaya: as far as registered users the uids are sequential because YOLO so you can pretty easily infer that with a binary search on the problem space22:00
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zarook, i suspect that there is no command because there's this plugin that adds it
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zarobut it says gerrit admins only anyways22:01
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zaroclarkb, fungi ^ might be useful22:01
anteayaclarkb: I'm wondering if I have the abiltiy to perform a binary search on the problem space22:01
anteayaclarkb: but I hear you saying i just have to find the id number of the most recent user22:02
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clarkbanteaya: ya so do owner:20000 then when that fails owner:15000 and narrow it down22:02
anteayaclarkb: ah okey dokey I can do that, thanks22:03
clarkbanteaya: I can get an answer by asking the database but I am juggling a few things so would be a little time22:03
anteayazaro: can you add that to an etherpad about gerrit, maybe the development one?22:03
zaroanteaya: or have one of the gerrit admins query the db for you22:03
anteayaclarkb: yup, I can do this myself22:03
anteayaclarkb: thanks22:03
clarkbanteaya: the therpad lgtm, the one thing you may or may not want to add is that the only room in the design summit area that will be open on monday is the one used by the board meeting. One suggestion was that we can use lobby space or a restaurant22:03
anteayazaro: yup, clarkb gave me a suggestion22:03
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anteayaclarkb: sure thank you22:04
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zaroclarkb: nifty trick22:04
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anteayaclarkb: added22:06
anteayaclarkb: was that what you had in mind?22:06
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clarkbanteaya: ya22:08
anteaya18948 as of right now22:09
anteayaclarkb: thank you22:09
anteayathe more recent entries don't have a lot of activity22:09
clarkbanteaya: and some are definitely dupliates22:09
clarkbbut I think you  can safely say we have well over 10k users22:09
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anteayavery safely22:10
anteayaany opinions on
anteayain addition to clarkb's suggested addition?22:11
anteayaand mordred's edit?22:11
anteayaam I good to send that, am I waiting for something?22:11
anteayapurp: says he can live with it22:12
mordredanteaya, clarkb: well,,n,z is a realhuman22:12
mordredso we have at least 17350 users22:12
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mordredanteaya: oh wow, I didn't see you'd gotten 18948!22:13
clarkbI have to say I am excited that usb-C is a thing, but not happy that I have to buy usb-A to usb-C cables to make anything useful22:13
mordredclarkb: ++22:13
timrcanteaya: Looks good to me.22:13
timrcanteaya: My only other comment is that the intent of the meeting " the current plan is to try to find 15 or 20 mintues during lunch break to discuss this and create an agreement about next steps and a follow up plan.22:14
anteayatimrc: thank you22:14
timrcseems to get a bit lost.22:14
purpBetter than “can live with it.” =]22:14
anteayapurp: okay thanks for clarification22:14
anteayatimrc: well I think the folks I am trying to gather will understand it22:15
anteayathis is less a public announcement and more a desire to follow the openstack way in all things22:15
anteayatimrc: I can understand the perspective, but kind of like the work sessions I'm trying to target the intended folks to gather22:16
anteayatimrc: sorry if that seem exclusionary22:16
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timrcanteaya: Not at all, it just going to be sent out to openstack-infra so other eyes will be on it.22:16
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anteayatimrc: yes, and as the first line states it is mostly for archival purposes that we are doing so22:17
asselinhi, nodepool DIB images are failing because this project doesn't have a master branch: openstack/deb-openstack-pkg-tools
clarkbasselin: yes22:17
greghaynesasselin: Yea, we fixed22:17
clarkbgreghaynes: no its not fixed22:17
clarkbat least I hvane't done the dance to force push to them22:17
clarkbwas hoping to come up with a better solution22:17
greghaynesah, I thought we added the branch, nvm22:17
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clarkbI wonder if zigo can just fix it?22:18
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clarkbor at least indicate a prefernce of fix ?22:18
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anteayafungi: any comments on the draft email?22:21
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anteayamordred: 17530 does appear to be a real human22:24
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greghaynesmordred: clarkb fungi random thought re using other clouds to hopefully recoup some of the hpcloud workload - AIUI we are planning to only use image uploads in the other clouds? Maybe we should prioritize getting upload working reliably / switching existing stuff over to images?22:25
greghaynesI havent seen any testing of snapshot stuff in the ovh/bluebox clouds so not sure how much of an option that even is22:26
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clarkbgreghaynes: ya I think we need to revive the bindep work for unitests22:26
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clarkbbut definitel should start there rather than do extra work to move22:26
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asselinclarkb, greghaynes a fix to that issue 'soon' would be helpful. There are some 3rd party folks running into that as they're trying in the new common-ci solution. No image, no ci...22:28
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clarkbasselin: I think anyone is welcome to do the work ...22:30
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asselinclarkb, sure...what needs to be done? add a master branch?22:30
clarkbasselin: oh I crossed the streams was talking about image builds22:31
clarkbasselin: but same situation for deb thing except you may need gerrit admin once you decide what the best fix is22:31
clarkbwe have two options, push up empty master or base master on existing ref22:31
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clarkbasselin: I dislike doing the force push empty branch trick because its kind of a pain, but can do it. It is easier to just point at an existing ref but that may not be appropriate22:34
jesusaurusI think basing it on the initial commit and updating the readme makes sense22:35
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asselinclarkb, I'm still confused why it broke. is this related to stackforge?22:35
clarkbasselin: it broke because they have no master branch22:35
clarkbasselin: but HEAD points to master22:35
greghaynesasselin: our tooling tells dib to check out a master branch of all the repos22:35
clarkbits a git thing and a gerrit thing. Basically master is required22:35
clarkbgreghaynes: and even if it did the correct thing of checkout remote HEAD it would break22:36
asselingreghaynes, ok thanks...that explains the missing piece22:36
jesusaurusah, so we could also update HEAD on the server side, but that is a more complicated change22:36
greghaynesclarkb: hah, yea22:36
asselinso nodepool dib doesn't necessarily need this repo...just for the cache22:36
clarkbjesusaurus: ya I -2 that because then I have to update all the mirrors manually22:36
clarkbincluding github22:36
greghaynesasselin: yep22:37
clarkbso my stance is "master is required"22:37
jesusaurusthat's fair22:37
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asselingo to *22:37
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anteayanote, purp added the date of the sunset to the etherpad22:39
anteayawhich I am fine with, any objections?22:39
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clarkbnone from me22:39
fungianteaya: sorry, disappeared to make dinner. e-mail lgtm. i talked to claire and she says there's really not much available on monday aside from the room they're opening for the board meeting but we can crash one of the restaurants or something22:39
anteayafungi: ah figured someting like that22:40
anteayafungi: awesome thank you22:40
anteayaany objections to me sending the email?22:40
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clarkbnibalizer: timothyb89 mtreinish for can we just switch to a recursive file resource?22:40
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clarkbnibalizer: timothyb89 mtreinish I think that will be easier to manage puppet wise and the mv didn't fire after updating the build so what we currently have doesn't work and I don't know why22:41
fungianteaya: fire away22:41
anteayafungi: okey dokey22:41
anteayathanks all who helped in the conversation22:41
fungithanks for summarizing anteaya!22:42
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Use the new --conf option to pass in values
clarkbmtreinish: nibalizer timothyb89 I am writing that change now so we can argue in gerrit22:43
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nibalizerclarkb: ok22:43
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warpcHi! Please review: and
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anteayaand those mentioned in the email should have recieved an individual copy by bcc22:47
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clarkbwarpc: where are we using gevent?22:48
fungisome project, i forget which, is trying to add unit tests which rely on a python test requirement that builds against libevent22:49
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Use file resource to manage build copy
clarkbnibalizer: mtreinish timothyb89 ^ something like that should do it I think22:50
clarkbfungi: fun22:50
clarkbthe only thing more confusing than eventlet is writing code to use eventlet, gevent, twisted, and taskflow all at the same time >_>22:50
fungiclarkb: shhh! (someone will read that and take it as a personal challenge)22:51
nibalizerhm im noticing that the last sentence of needs an update22:51
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warpcclar: thank you for answer. At now moment i need this change to run test for it:
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funginibalizer: then perhaps you would approve
clarkbfungi: I approved the system-config change, but thought you may want to weigh in on the bindep change? my preference there would be for whatever project needs this to ship a bindep file instead22:52
clarkbfungi: rather than baking it into the fallback22:52
fungiclarkb: i would like that too, but i've not had free time to drive the bindep-based jobs the rest of the way to production so was hesitant to suggest that22:52
clarkbfungi: well its unused now22:53
clarkbso the system-config change will get them going and they can future proof in repo22:53
fungiand want to make sure that the bindep fallback list accurately reflects what we're installing on the bare-.* workers22:53
clarkbfungi: ah22:53
nibalizerfungi: my pleasure :)22:53
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fungiyeah, but another project can come along and start depending on it in the meantime and we won't know22:54
clarkbgood point22:54
fungiand for any projects complaining that the bindep fallback takes too long to install, the answer is simple (once we're using it)22:54
fungithough really, with locally cached packages, the experimental nova unit test job with the bindep fallback on ubuntu-trusty was within noise variance of the runtime for the normal unit test job22:55
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove unused elastic-recheck files
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Support egg Gevent (
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Support egg Gevent (
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Update PTL contact info for new service providers
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nibalizerclarkb: do we need force => true there?23:11
nibalizerI can never remember23:11
clarkbnibalizer: uh maybe23:11
nibalizerdoesn't hurt23:11
* clarkb reads docs23:11
nibalizerthat does hurt23:11
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clarkbya we need it to remove subdirs if they change in the source23:12
clarkbI will add23:12
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Use file resource to manage build copy
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nibalizerclarkb: +223:13
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Shrewsmordred: still in merge conflict23:32
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mtreinishclarkb: being a puppet noob, does that re-copy every time we run the build?23:38
mtreinishor is it like a symlink23:38
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mtreinishclarkb: I guess it can't hurt right now because it doesn't look like it's running the mv anymore:
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mtreinishclarkb: on good side of things, it looks like my fix for connection pooling works. The api server still has a db connection23:43
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mordredShrews: GAH23:45
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix projects list/search/get interface
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mordredShrews: ^^23:45
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mtreinishmordred: if you get a sec:
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mordredmtreinish: done!23:58
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mtreinishmordred: thanks, hopefully that'll fix things23:58
clarkbmtreinish: it md5sums and copies on a diff23:58
mtreinishclarkb: ok cool23:58
clarkbmtreinish: it is how we manage all the jenkins job builder yaml files23:59
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