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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Use file resource to manage build copy https://review.openstack.org/238267 | 00:03 |
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| Shrews | mordred: ^^^ fixed some badness | 00:20 |
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| mordred | Shrews: awesome. I have two little cleanup patches coming | 00:20 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: looks like it's working now: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 00:20 |
| mtreinish | well sort of, its not querying the rest api | 00:21 |
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| mtreinish | so no data is shown | 00:21 |
| Shrews | mordred: gah. i see more | 00:21 |
| mtreinish | timothyb89: ^^^ any ideas | 00:21 |
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| mtreinish | the contents of config.json look right: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/config.json | 00:22 |
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| mordred | Shrews: two little ones | 00:24 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I see JSON.parse errors in the log | 00:24 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: my browser debug log | 00:24 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: oh, I think we might need quotes around http://health.openstack.org | 00:26 |
| mtreinish | for the template | 00:26 |
| mtreinish | one sec I'll push that up | 00:26 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: ^^^ | 00:28 |
| clarkb | ah yup | 00:28 |
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| mtreinish | and another 15min-30min to see if it works :/ | 00:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Setup jobs for oslo.messaging pika driver https://review.openstack.org/238282 | 00:30 |
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| anteaya | this is the patch containing Clint's scripts he wrote for the rename: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228002/ | 00:31 |
| anteaya | it would be wonderful to merge them for archival purposes | 00:31 |
| anteaya | if we could | 00:31 |
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| mordred | anteaya: done | 00:34 |
| anteaya | mordred: thank you | 00:35 |
| anteaya | Clint: yay! | 00:35 |
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| mmmpork | Clint: it was a pleasure to work with you on writing those, glad they got merged :) | 00:39 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: ok, now it works: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 00:52 |
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| yamamoto | can anyone consider merging this? i want to avoid making liberty release of the plugin without ci. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230932/ | 01:03 |
| mordred | ruagair: woot! | 01:03 |
| ruagair | Yeah, turned out to be two setting in the end. | 01:04 |
| ruagair | Still need to do a whole bunch of verification but not being able to login post migration was a small blocker :-D | 01:04 |
| tchaypo | ruagair: can we experience this ourselves? | 01:05 |
| ruagair | oh mordred, the phabricator appreciated the migration script being in SQL :-D | 01:05 |
| mordred | ruagair: :) | 01:05 |
| ruagair | tchaypo: you an try but it's not over SSL at present, so perhaps wailt til after? | 01:05 |
| ruagair | They resolved the blocking two issue for me. | 01:05 |
| mordred | ruagair: oh awesome! | 01:06 |
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| mordred | ruagair: are you logging in behind cauth? or with a generated password still? | 01:06 |
| mordred | ruagair: I'm glad someone apprecaited the pile of SQL :) | 01:06 |
| ruagair | "Doing this purely with sql is one for the books" <- mordred | 01:06 |
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| mordred | ruagair: yay! | 01:07 |
| ruagair | No cauth, yet. Just using the password generated locally. I just wanted to log into the damn thing post migration :-D | 01:07 |
| mordred | ruagair: +100 great plan | 01:07 |
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| ruagair | I'll whack it behind SSL, then let people play with it and cauth going. | 01:08 |
| tchaypo | At least now you know it works | 01:08 |
| ruagair | Phab worked, just not after migration tchaypo :-D | 01:08 |
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| tchaypo | And any issues you see setting up cauth are from the cauth plugin and not just a sign that phab is broken | 01:08 |
| ruagair | Exactly tchaypo | 01:08 |
| ruagair | Is it beer o'clck yet? I'm pumped. :-D | 01:09 |
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| tchaypo | I'm sitting in a GPs waiting room hoping he doesn't tell me I shouldn't fly | 01:10 |
| tchaypo | It's similar to being pumped, but more boring | 01:11 |
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| ruagair | Good luck tchaypo! | 01:32 |
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| mordred | asselin: ^^ ooh! I find such things exciting | 02:30 |
| asselin_ | mordred, thanks! | 02:31 |
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| crinkle | SpamapS: greghaynes: status update - of the six machines reported broken, two have changed ilo passwords to something I don't know, one is still broken, leaving three to play with | 02:54 |
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| crinkle | for those three ironic seems very confused about them, i have notes at the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-cloud-inventory-status | 02:54 |
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| crinkle | so greghaynes if you have the time and inclination you'd be welcome to poke at them tomorrow | 02:54 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: awesome | 02:54 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: I will be on a plane all day tomorrow | 02:54 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: oh right | 02:55 |
| greghaynes | but glad to hear there is some progress | 02:55 |
| crinkle | ish | 02:55 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: I had wifi on my pane | 03:01 |
| mordred | plane | 03:01 |
| greghaynes | mordred: oh? Mine said wifi, I didnt believe that was possible | 03:02 |
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| mordred | yup | 03:02 |
| mordred | it's a new thing | 03:02 |
| greghaynes | wow | 03:02 |
| mordred | it totes works | 03:02 |
| * greghaynes such excite | 03:02 | |
| mordred | like, all of yesterday when I was talking to you and stuff | 03:02 |
| mordred | I was in an airplane flying to tokyo | 03:02 |
| greghaynes | wow | 03:02 |
| crinkle | the future is awesome | 03:02 |
| mordred | it's crazy | 03:03 |
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| ruagair | We only have closed WiFi in ,au. | 03:11 |
| ruagair | ie: you access their services but nothing else. | 03:11 |
| ruagair | (on flights) | 03:11 |
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| clarkb | mordred: some of us are really hoping to catch up on sleep during the plane ride | 03:14 |
| clarkb | "no babies, stuck in a chair for 11 hours?" = sleep | 03:14 |
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| mordred | clarkb: otoh - the JFK-NRT flight left JFK at noon and arrived at 3pm | 04:56 |
| mordred | clarkb: which made being sleepy at the right time ... hard | 04:56 |
| mordred | clarkb: you'll probably be in better shape | 04:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/237894 | 06:19 |
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| SpamapS | crinkle: thanks for the update. | 06:26 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: Hai! | 06:32 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: I've been writing scripts, I have everything up to heat done, and then ran headlong into the 0x8 pt thing in Horizon :-( | 06:33 |
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| AJaeger | ;( | 06:34 |
| AJaeger | I saw the result of your scripts already - thanks! | 06:35 |
| StevenK | And I can't find it, and it's infuriating | 06:35 |
| AJaeger | Let me checkup horizon and beat it into submission ;) | 06:35 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: I've even downloaded the pt translations XML from the Zanata REST API and I can't see 08 in that anywhere | 06:36 |
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| AJaeger | Ooops ;( | 06:37 |
| AJaeger | can you ask Alex from Zanata, please? | 06:38 |
| StevenK | I suspect he has finished for the day, it's 1738 | 06:38 |
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| * AJaeger tries Chromium instead of firefox, let's see whether that helps... | 06:39 | |
| StevenK | I'm not sure why SAX just hates it | 06:40 |
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| StevenK | lxml.etree parses the XML just fine | 06:40 |
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| StevenK | But I'm not sure if the Zanata client does other things after it fetches the translations XML | 06:40 |
| AJaeger | NO, does not work for me either ;( | 06:42 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: I'll see if I can grab aeng tomorrow morning | 06:43 |
| aeng | StevenK, im here now | 06:43 |
| StevenK | aeng: \o/ | 06:43 |
| aeng | lol | 06:44 |
| aeng | about the u08 character? | 06:44 |
| StevenK | aeng: Yup | 06:44 |
| StevenK | [org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; lineNumber: 5; columnNumber: 357; An invalid XML character (Unicode: 0x8) was found in the element content of the document.] | 06:44 |
| aeng | yup | 06:44 |
| aeng | have you seen my last email to andreas? | 06:45 |
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| AJaeger | hi aeng, glad to see you! | 06:45 |
| aeng | basically its because there's some invalid character that got copied into the editor and save.. | 06:45 |
| aeng | hi AJaeger | 06:45 |
| AJaeger | aeng: We cannot find the string ;( | 06:45 |
| AJaeger | I followed your instructions but there's no match ;( | 06:45 |
| StevenK | aeng: With Version: %(version_info) ? AJaeger removed it | 06:45 |
| aeng | StevenK, we found out thats not the issue | 06:46 |
| aeng | it was the hidden "backspace character" | 06:46 |
| aeng | if you see my screenshot in the email.. all the red dot | 06:46 |
| aeng | AJaeger, so you can't see the "red dot"? even after turn on the syntax highlighting editor? | 06:47 |
| AJaeger | aeng: in language "pt" | 06:47 |
| AJaeger | I don't see red dot. | 06:48 |
| AJaeger | Your URL was for "it" | 06:48 |
| AJaeger | aeng: we can screenshare if you want... | 06:48 |
| aeng | ah... AJaeger, I amanged to pull from pt | 06:48 |
| StevenK | For master or stable-liberty | 06:48 |
| StevenK | ? | 06:48 |
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| aeng | stable-liberty | 06:48 |
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| AJaeger | NOw I see the red dots in *it*. Perhaps zanata-cli gives wrong error message? | 06:49 |
| AJaeger | Let me fix Italian | 06:49 |
| StevenK | I still get the SAX exception, but I'm not sure if zanata-cli even writes the .po files if it can't parse the XML. | 06:50 |
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| aeng | StevenK, zanata-cli doesnt write file if there's exception | 06:51 |
| StevenK | I didn't think so | 06:51 |
| aeng | The last I tried, the error is from 'it' | 06:51 |
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| StevenK | >>> from lxml import etree | 06:53 |
| StevenK | >>> p = etree.XMLParser(remove_blank_text=True) | 06:53 |
| StevenK | >>> with open('pt') as f: | 06:53 |
| StevenK | ... xml = etree.parse(f, p) | 06:53 |
| StevenK | Blah | 06:53 |
| StevenK | Mispaste | 06:53 |
| AJaeger | master is fixed! | 06:53 |
| StevenK | Which string is it? | 06:53 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK: 50 ;( | 06:53 |
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| AJaeger | now on to stable/liberty | 06:53 |
| StevenK | lxml.etree.XMLSyntaxError: PCDATA invalid Char value 8, line 2, column 234 | 06:53 |
| StevenK | Ah ha | 06:54 |
| StevenK | Still, you fail, lxml, since there are no lines | 06:54 |
| aeng | lol | 06:54 |
| AJaeger | aeng: zanata-cli does not show me that it's *it* that's broken, it only reports pt written | 06:54 |
| StevenK | I think the exception handler needs to report what locale it was working on when it died horribly, yes | 06:54 |
| aeng | StevenK, yes. And Zanata should detect those character. Carlos alrady file a bug to get this fix | 06:55 |
| StevenK | Yay! | 06:55 |
| aeng | so we can prevent this from happening | 06:55 |
| AJaeger | aeng: glad to hear! | 06:55 |
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| aeng | let me try to do pull now | 06:58 |
| StevenK | stable-liberty is still broken | 06:58 |
| * AJaeger deleted many red dots ;) | 06:58 | |
| aeng | lol | 06:59 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: should be fine now, I'm checking... | 06:59 |
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| StevenK | [INFO] Writing translation file in locale it for document openstack_dashboard/locale/django | 06:59 |
| AJaeger | Yeah! | 07:00 |
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| aeng | im still pulling... slow process | 07:00 |
| aeng | bad connection from home | 07:00 |
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| StevenK | That's what you get for TPG | 07:00 |
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| aeng | LOL... | 07:00 |
| AJaeger | flaper87: care to import glance and glance_store translations again, please? We did a nice cleanup...https://review.openstack.org/238369 https://review.openstack.org/238357 | 07:01 |
| aeng | StevenK, you got it right | 07:01 |
| AJaeger | it's slow for me at work as well... | 07:01 |
| * StevenK is using a cloud VM in some HP DC somewhere | 07:01 | |
| aeng | ALL GOOD!!! | 07:01 |
| aeng | fixed | 07:01 |
| flaper87 | AJaeger: sure thing! | 07:01 |
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| AJaeger | Wohoo \o/ | 07:02 |
| AJaeger | thanks, flaper87 ! | 07:02 |
| StevenK | Yes, the problem really is Horizon. If they had less translations, we could pull quicker | 07:02 |
| aeng | large docs | 07:02 |
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| AJaeger | and many translations - horizon has the most translations | 07:02 |
| flaper87 | AJaeger: done, thanks | 07:02 |
| aeng | alright.. i better get going.. thanks guys | 07:02 |
| StevenK | aeng: Thanks! | 07:02 |
| aeng | anything.. feel free to email me | 07:02 |
| StevenK | aeng: Looking forward to meeting you next week | 07:02 |
| aeng | yup... sure thing StevenK | 07:02 |
| AJaeger | finished for me... | 07:03 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: continue with your nice cleanup, please ;) | 07:03 |
| StevenK | Just finished for me too | 07:03 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: I have to EOD, sorry | 07:03 |
| AJaeger | "90 files changed, 511731 insertions(+), 243437 " | 07:03 |
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| StevenK | Need to go shopping while there is there at least some light outside | 07:04 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: tomorrow is another day - one without problems I hope ;) | 07:04 |
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| StevenK | And I need to work out how I'm going to charge my laptop in Japan | 07:04 |
| AJaeger | Thanks, StevenK ! Happy shopping! | 07:04 |
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| StevenK | Hard to have fun in a supermarket :-P | 07:05 |
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| AJaeger | ;) | 07:06 |
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| yolanda | morning | 07:26 |
| AJaeger | morning, yolanda ! | 07:27 |
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| nibalizer | good morning AJaeger yolanda | 07:43 |
| AJaeger | morning, nibalizer ! | 07:43 |
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| AJaeger | anybody wants to approve this reversal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207201 ? | 07:45 |
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| nibalizer | sure | 07:46 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, nibalizer | 07:47 |
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| crinkle | greghaynes: SpamapS i've gone through the redeploy, updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-cloud-inventory-status , two more tickets filed | 07:56 |
| crinkle | I've asked yolanda to help look into useast nodes if/when she has the time | 07:56 |
| crinkle | I'll probably be taking tomorrow off | 07:56 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: thanks for all the reviews! What do you think about https://review.openstack.org/238196 ? | 08:31 |
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| yolanda | AJaeger, i wanted to look at that with more detail | 08:32 |
| yolanda | it's a more dense review than the others | 08:32 |
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| AJaeger | sure, please do - and if you have suggestions on how to improve it, I can do those | 08:33 |
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| yolanda | AJaeger, sure, i'll take a look, initially looked fine but i need to get to the detail | 08:34 |
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| yolanda | AJaeger, i added some comments. I don't think they are enough for a -1, but just some ideas for improvement | 08:53 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: master is needed for our repos, nodepool generation failed yesterday because of missing master branch - and gerrit has problems as well. | 08:57 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, we don't have master branches downstream and we don't break master :) | 08:57 |
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| yolanda | don't know why , heh | 08:57 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: interesting - not sure what the reasons are, you might want to ask fungi. | 08:57 |
| yolanda | it's an use case from downstream, what we do to fix it, is to update HEAD to point to the new branch instead of master | 08:58 |
| yolanda | but well ok, if we use that check, we will fork it | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove global vars from check_valid_gerrit_projects.py https://review.openstack.org/238407 | 09:00 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: there's the global var change ^ | 09:01 |
| yolanda | you are fast | 09:01 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: if I want to get my changes in ;) | 09:01 |
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| lawranc__ | hello, Ajaeger, when i register #openstack-evoque in chanserv via cmd "/msg chanserv register #channel" but the chanserv raised " -ChanServ-You are not logged in." | 09:04 |
| StevenK | lawranc__: Is your neckname registered with NickServ? | 09:05 |
| StevenK | It isn't, so that's your first step. | 09:05 |
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| lawranc__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238370/ , test for the patch failed , the error msg is "#openstack-evoque is not registered with ChanServ." | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project https://review.openstack.org/235355 | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project https://review.openstack.org/235355 | 09:38 |
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| dtardivel | mordred fungi: hi Monty and Jeremy, I saw that your last commit did not pass gate jobs (docs and py27). We need to push a patchset to fix this issue. We propose to you to push a new commit, from our side, integrating your patchset. Therefore, you will be able to abandon your commit. Is it the best way to resolve this issue, from your point of view ? | 10:08 |
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| dtardivel | mordred fungi: sorry I talking about openstack/watcher project | 10:10 |
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| kozhukalov_ | guys, please add me to the fuel-menu-core shotgun-core and network-checker groups Vladimir Kozhukalov vkozhukalov@mirantis.com, for details see these patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235355/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235177/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235822/ | 10:22 |
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| kozhukalov_ | guys, please add me to the fuel-menu-core shotgun-core and network-checker groups Vladimir Kozhukalov vkozhukalov@mirantis.com, for details see these patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235355/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235177/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235822/ | 12:04 |
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| kozhukalov_ | SergeyLukjanov, could you please add me to fuel-menu-core shotgun-core and network-checker-core groups? | 12:07 |
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| fungi | yolanda: the missing master branch issue, as i understand it, is that manage-projects ends up setting HEAD as a link to a nonexistent ref. then image generation attempts to clone from it for caching and breaks | 12:46 |
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| yolanda | yes, the way we manage is that we update the HEAD of the repo. But this change of Andreas raised my attention, we should fork it , because we have repos without master | 12:46 |
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| fungi | dtardivel: i don't recall submitting a change to the openstack/watcher project | 12:47 |
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| fungi | yolanda: do you have a common HEAD though? in our case we'd have to work around it by detecting the HEAD of the imported repo, and i think would also have to have some mechanism to set that independently on all replicas as well | 12:51 |
| yolanda | fungi yes, we have a common HEAD | 12:51 |
| fungi | or put another way, deleting the master branch from a git repo is counter to the way distributed git development is designed to work | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nir Magnezi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Octavia should gate on neutron-lbaas tempest lbaasv2 jobs https://review.openstack.org/238484 | 12:52 |
| yolanda | fungi yes, it's causing several problems and some workarounds are needed to make that work | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Nir Magnezi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Octavia should gate on neutron-lbaas tempest lbaasv2 jobs https://review.openstack.org/238484 | 12:55 |
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| kozhukalov_ | fungi, yolanda, others, could you please add me to the fuel-menu-core shotgun-core and network-checker-core groups? | 12:56 |
| kozhukalov_ | for details see patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235355/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235177/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235822/ | 12:57 |
| yolanda | yep, i reviewed those | 12:57 |
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| yolanda | just a sec | 12:57 |
| kozhukalov_ | yolanda, thank you very much | 12:58 |
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| yolanda | done | 12:59 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: ^^^ hope I got that right | 13:12 |
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| yolanda | mtreinish, sorry just a nit that i forgot to add to the comment. You need to remove the before => Service | 13:13 |
| yolanda | the wrapper already does it | 13:13 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: ok, one sec I'll respin it right now | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Enable mod_cache to do API server side caching https://review.openstack.org/236173 | 13:14 |
| mtreinish | yolanda: ^^^ | 13:14 |
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| yolanda | looks good | 13:15 |
| yolanda | mtreinish, so did you sort the problem with lost connection? | 13:15 |
| tdurakov | clarkb, fungi hi, are you around? | 13:15 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: yep, or at least I think so. There hasn't been a connection drop since the patch landed | 13:16 |
| yolanda | great | 13:16 |
| mtreinish | yolanda: we also go the frontend part deployed too: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 13:16 |
| mtreinish | so everything seems to be working :) | 13:16 |
| yolanda | that's a cool project | 13:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo config to >= 2.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/238497 | 13:18 |
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| fungi | tdurakov: what's up? | 13:19 |
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| tdurakov | fungi, need some help with logstash.openstack.org | 13:20 |
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| tdurakov | fungi, is it possible to use regex there? | 13:20 |
| fungi | tdurakov: i think you have to use lucene expressions instead | 13:21 |
| sdague | tdurakov: no regex | 13:21 |
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| fungi | tdurakov: also only some fields are indexed for substring matching. i know message is one but not sure which others (if any) | 13:21 |
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| tdurakov | fungi, sdague, i'm about this: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/query-dsl-regexp-query.html | 13:22 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: right, except that's deep elastic search bits | 13:23 |
| sdague | that doesn't mean that surfaces through applications | 13:23 |
| sdague | or even that our elastic search supports it | 13:23 |
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| tiagogomes__ | hi, I am trying to submit a patch through gerrit but I am getting a "ICLA contributor agreement requires current contact information." error. Can anybody help? | 13:23 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: what are you trying to match? it's better to work backwards from there | 13:24 |
| tdurakov | sdague, for example message that ends with 'failed' | 13:24 |
| fungi | tiagogomes__: were you following http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup or some other directions? | 13:24 |
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| tiagogomes__ | fungi I didn't join the OpenStack foundation. Is it required? | 13:25 |
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| fungi | tiagogomes__: yes, that's why the instructions say "required" | 13:25 |
| eantyshev | hello, sdague! Would you mind looking at this simple patch to devstack: https://review.openstack.org/238479 | 13:25 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: what are some example lines you are interested in? | 13:26 |
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| sdague | eantyshev: thanks | 13:27 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, hm, for example this: 2015-10-12 14:19:37.470 | {0} tempest.scenario.test_snapshot_pattern.TestSnapshotPattern.test_snapshot_pattern [272.469093s] ... FAILED | 13:28 |
| krotscheck | Is there documentation anywhere on "Hey here's how you add a devstack job to infra?" | 13:28 |
| tdurakov | sdague, btw, got question about devstack:-p | 13:28 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: if you are doing analysis on the failed runs, that's better done through the subunit2sql data | 13:31 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: I guess I still don't understand what you are trying to do with logstash here | 13:32 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, subunit2sql could? | 13:40 |
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| tiagogomes__ | sdague I registered an account but I still get the same error | 13:40 |
| sdague | tdurakov: it could, but I still don't know what question you are trying to ask | 13:40 |
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| asmodai | Who do I need to poke to be able to get the review site to accept the data I fill in for the ICLA? Complains that it cannot store. :\ | 13:40 |
| tdurakov | sdague, trying to find all failing test in particular job | 13:40 |
| kozhukalov_ | what if I need yet another package to be available on the system where infra runs tests? how is it possible to install this additional package? pip can not install scapy and pypcap without libpcap-dev package. | 13:41 |
| sdague | tdurakov: for a single job, or single change? | 13:42 |
| tiagogomes__ | sdague now it works | 13:42 |
| tdurakov | for single job | 13:42 |
| tdurakov | sdague ^ | 13:42 |
| sdague | tdurakov: ok, I guess I'm surprised you are using logstash for that instead of going to the logs for that job | 13:42 |
| tdurakov | sdague, it's for long period of time:) | 13:43 |
| sdague | oh, for a build_name across many jobs? | 13:43 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: right, so that analysis is probably better done with subunit2sql | 13:44 |
| mtreinish | sdague, tdurakov: you can do that with subunit2sql pretty easily | 13:44 |
| mtreinish | the query is just kinda expensive right now | 13:44 |
| mtreinish | we're hitting performance issues trying to do that exact thing with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226871/ | 13:44 |
| mtreinish | which'll be used by: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232090/ | 13:45 |
| tdurakov | mtreinish, sdague, there is job in nova gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full i need to find out all failing test for this in a week period | 13:45 |
| mtreinish | tdurakov: subunit2sql won't be able to help you with that because we're not collecting data for non-voting jobs (well anything in check, we only collect data on the gate queue right now) | 13:47 |
| fungi | asmodai: were you following http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup or some other directions? | 13:47 |
| sdague | tdurakov: something like this might work | 13:47 |
| sdague | message:"tempest" AND (message:"scenario" OR message:"api") AND message:"... FAILED" AND tags:console | 13:47 |
| tdurakov | sdague, mtreinish, i wrote script for that, but thought there should be simpler way, i suppose:) | 13:48 |
| kozhukalov_ | My question about additional packages ^^^ is not actual any more. I've got an answer. | 13:48 |
| asmodai | fungi: Yep, have account registered, going to review, agreements, select ICLA, fill in details and enter I AGREE, click button, get error that it cannot store | 13:48 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: yeh, we're not there yet. The tooling was brought up to address the repeat bug issue, and it's an imperfect match for that. It's an imperfect match for this as well, but so it is. | 13:49 |
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| fungi | asmodai: so the part about joining the foundation as a foundation member, not a community member, making sure your primary e-mail address on your foundation profile matches your preferred e-mail you've set in gerrit... all that checks out? | 13:49 |
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| asmodai | fungi: Let me double check, should be | 13:50 |
| sdague | tdurakov: also if you click the little (i) inspect button, it will give you a curl request for that query | 13:51 |
| sdague | which means you could probably talk to ES directly with the regex query | 13:51 |
| fungi | asmodai: there's some troubleshooting tips for that at https://ask.openstack.org/question/56720 | 13:51 |
| asmodai | fungi: yep, same email address | 13:52 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, in fact, message: "... FAILED" find smth like this: [req-cd167009-a00c-46b6-bdd5-5a04ceb60088 - - - - -] Authorization failed. Could not find project: swifttenanttest4 (Disable debug mode to suppress these details.) (Disable debug mode to suppress these details.) from 127.0.0.1 | 13:52 |
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| asmodai | fungi: Let me check that URL | 13:52 |
| sdague | yeh, the ... is tokenized out | 13:52 |
| sdague | this is full text search, so punctionation is all dropped | 13:53 |
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| asmodai | fungi: Yeah, I see where the confusion comes from. I submitted doc patches, was asked about the ICLA, but I thought community member would be good enough for that. | 13:54 |
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| asmodai | So I guess I need to become a foundation member then | 13:54 |
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| asmodai | fungi: And that indeed does work. | 13:55 |
| sdague | although something is wrong with logstash when you do: | 13:55 |
| sdague | message:"tempest" AND (message:"scenario" OR message:"api") AND message:"FAILED" AND tags:"console" | 13:55 |
| sdague | because the graph shows 41 hits | 13:56 |
| sdague | but the table doesn't have any data | 13:56 |
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| fungi | asmodai: we've tried to explain it as clearly as possible at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup but if you were following some other instructions which implied that was unnecessary it would help me to know where so i can get them removed | 13:56 |
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| sdague | oh, looks like some logstash bug - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6514884/screenshot_272.png | 13:56 |
| sdague | boo | 13:56 |
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| asmodai | fungi: I think the confusion ensued after I was also pointed to this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo#Set_up_for_contribution | 13:58 |
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| thinrichs | Quick question: how do I create a new gerrit group (congress-stable-maint)? I tried on gerrit and reading through the project creator/driver guides—no luck. | 13:58 |
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| fungi | asmodai: thanks. i'll talk to the docs team about avoiding describing the process. if you have two sets of process documentation, at least one will always be wrong/misleading | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | sdague, so, what should be solution for my problem? custom script? | 14:02 |
| asmodai | fungi: *nod* Cheers :) | 14:02 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: probably | 14:03 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, got question about devstack, why nova-compute runs under root? | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Add 'push' and 'tag' github webhook events. https://review.openstack.org/191207 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Support GitHub PR webhooks https://review.openstack.org/163117 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Add test scenarios for GitHub https://review.openstack.org/223064 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Fix job hierarchy bug. https://review.openstack.org/192457 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Refactor for better connection testing https://review.openstack.org/223063 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Allow using webapp from connections https://review.openstack.org/215642 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Add basic Github Zuul Reporter. https://review.openstack.org/191312 | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Allow list values in template parameters. https://review.openstack.org/191208 | 14:06 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, http://xsnippet.org/361093/ | 14:08 |
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| thinrichs | sdague, fungi: Quick question: how do I create a new gerrit group (congress-stable-maint)?  I tried on gerrit and reading through the project creator/driver guides—no luck. | 14:08 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: nova compute doesn't run under root | 14:09 |
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| sdague | the sg process does to add it to the libvirt process group | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | sdague, but it's under root as i see | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | sg i mean | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup jobs for the project faafo https://review.openstack.org/238017 | 14:11 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: right, because you need to be root to adjust group id | 14:11 |
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| sdague | also, the rootwrap rules for nova-compute are so massively exploitable, it should just be run under root | 14:11 |
| fungi | thinrichs: new groups are created by being referenced in an acl | 14:11 |
| sdague | the fact that we don't is all security theather | 14:11 |
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| thinrichs | fungi: thanks—so I just submit a change with congress-stable-maint in the acl, and then populate the group after the change merges. | 14:12 |
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| ddieterly | mtreinish: if i have a project with a tempest test plugin, what do i need to do as far as install is concerned to get the plugin called during the tempest test run in devstack? | 14:14 |
| fungi | thinrichs: correct. you'll need one of us to add an initial team member | 14:14 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, hm, then got question about root | 14:14 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: you need to install the python package | 14:14 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html#using-plugins | 14:14 |
| ddieterly | just run 'python setup.py install'? | 14:15 |
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| ddieterly | yes, i have read that several times this morning ;-) | 14:15 |
| sdague | tdurakov: you can see by the memory usage in that ps that no python is being run in the root process | 14:15 |
| sdague | it's like 16k | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | sdague, then i got a question about live_migration_uri in multinode job | 14:16 |
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| tdurakov | it use uri like live_migration_uri = qemu+ssh://stack@%s/system, so the user should be stack | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | when i set similar env locally, i can connect to another compute under stack use in virsh, but when i tried to live-migrate instance, i've got permission denied(public key) | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | sdague, ^ | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Hinrichs proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Give congress-stable-maint rights to refs/stable/* https://review.openstack.org/238530 | 14:18 |
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| sdague | tdurakov: you need to populate ssh keys around | 14:19 |
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| thinrichs | fungi: got it. Pushed a change: https://review.openstack.org/238530 | 14:20 |
| AJaeger | fungi, seeing you editing the Docs HowTo - some of this is currently moved now to http://docs.openstack.org/draft/contributor-guide/first-timers-quickstart.html#setting-up-for-contribution . Thanks for the updates! | 14:20 |
| sdague | tdurakov: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/25ba5c9bce825106b25cf4d8a64f76a1e604a92c/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L129-L148 | 14:20 |
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| sdague | does all the bits around this | 14:20 |
| AJaeger | fungi: if you have suggestions for that page, feel free to tell me (or send a change for openstack-manuals yourself) | 14:20 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: yep, i was just stemming the bleeding. we had two walk-ins today who were following docs abbreviated account setup process which wasn't linked to our instructions | 14:21 |
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| ddieterly | mtreinish: the project i want to run the tempest tests on is monasca. i have cloned the repo in devstack and actually installed monasca in a virtual env. now, i want the tempest tests to run agains monasca. how is setup supposed to be done for the tempest tests to find the monasca tempest plugin? | 14:21 |
| fungi | AJaeger: basically anything which describes the account setup process should just be a link to the account setup section of the infra manual | 14:22 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: tempest has to be in that venv too, otherwise it won't see the entry point in monasca api | 14:22 |
| AJaeger | fungi: My idea as well and I pushed hard to avoid duplication in the new Doc Contributor Guide. And that'S why I love a second pair of eyes ;) | 14:22 |
| fungi | it's already a complicated enough process that if anyone else tries to summarize it we'll just confuse more newcomers | 14:23 |
| ddieterly | yes, everything is copied into the virtual env using a source distro and pip install | 14:23 |
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| ddieterly | the monasca devstack plugin does that | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | sdague, hm, is it populate keys for root user? setup_ssh ~root/.ssh | 14:23 |
| fungi | AJaeger: yep, reading it now | 14:23 |
| ddieterly | not sure if that is the 'right' way to do it though | 14:23 |
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| mtreinish | ddieterly: I don't think there is a right way to do it tbh | 14:24 |
| mtreinish | I think most packages install everything into system site-packages | 14:24 |
| mtreinish | and then use the tox job in tempest which creates the venv with system site packages enabled | 14:24 |
| ddieterly | do i need to run python setup.py install on the monasca directory that was cloned? | 14:24 |
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| mtreinish | but, that'll cause issues down the road if they ever run on stable branches | 14:25 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: pip install will work fine | 14:25 |
| fungi | AJaeger: lgtm. steps 1 and 2 there could be combined since 2 is just linking to a subsection of what 1 is linking to, so if they follow the whole section linked by 1 then they'll have done 2 | 14:25 |
| ddieterly | so, how do the tempest tests get discovered? i have cloned into /opt/stack/monasca, but the install in the virtual env is in /opt/monasca | 14:25 |
| fungi | AJaeger: if the second step is to work around the icla subsection of account setup looking optional/unrelated, we should improve the formatting for that section in the infra manual | 14:26 |
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| ddieterly | how does tempest know where to look for the tempest plugin? | 14:26 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I don't know why it was done this way. Shall I patch or do you want? | 14:27 |
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| ddieterly | will the virtualenv be a problem? | 14:27 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: read the docs I linked to. It explains the mechanism | 14:27 |
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| ddieterly | "Tempest will automatically discover any installed plugins when it is run. So by just installing the python packages which contain your plugin you’ll be using them with tempest, nothing else is really required." | 14:27 |
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| ddieterly | my quesition is, what does "just installing the python packages" mean? | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lukas Vacek proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Add optional kerberos support https://review.openstack.org/238535 | 14:28 |
| ddieterly | does that mean system wide? | 14:28 |
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| flyingtt | hi, could anybody review a tinny patch about os-cloud-config project? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214128/ , thanks in advance. | 14:28 |
| ddieterly | i looked at the manila projec | 14:29 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: it looks at the setup tools entrypoints and gets a list of all the entry points under the tempest namespace | 14:30 |
| AJaeger | fungi: in this context, what about approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236796/ for the infra manual? | 14:30 |
| mtreinish | if you run tempest inside a venv that will be only packages in that venv | 14:30 |
| mtreinish | (unless it's a venv with system site packages enabled) | 14:30 |
| fungi | i'll find a moment to submit patches | 14:30 |
| mtreinish | if its not in a venv it'll be system site packages | 14:30 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, fungi | 14:30 |
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| ddieterly | mtreinish: ok, so if i just clone the monasca repo as the devstack install does, and the monasca repo lives in /opt/stack/monasca, and the tempest stuff is all there, then it should just work? | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add emphasis that order is important https://review.openstack.org/236796 | 14:32 |
| dtardivel | fungi: isn't yours ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236618/ (it'sa about stackforge retirement) | 14:34 |
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| mtreinish | ddieterly: probably, but it depends on how you're running tempest. If you use tox -eall-plugin it will. All the other tox entrypoints will install tempest into a venv and it won't work | 14:34 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: and if you call tempest manually outside of tox or a venv it will work | 14:35 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: oh, that. yeah it's just there for convenience or as a reminder to update the .gitreview file. feel free to take it over or replace it with another change | 14:35 |
| fungi | dtardivel: ^ | 14:35 |
| fungi | sorry ddieterly | 14:35 |
| ddieterly | does the devstack plugin do the right thing by default? | 14:35 |
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| ddieterly | i am not running tempest, the devstack plugin is supposed to | 14:36 |
| dtardivel | fungi: ok thx | 14:36 |
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| fungi | dtardivel: looks like watcher is having trouble with the current state of oslo.config | 14:36 |
| dtardivel | funki: yes we have the fix. We will push a new patchset | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2 https://review.openstack.org/237156 | 14:37 |
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| dtardivel | fungi: ^ | 14:37 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/238546 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Lukas Vacek proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Add optional kerberos support https://review.openstack.org/238535 | 14:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled applicable gates, removed non-applicable checks for Fuel repos https://review.openstack.org/236068 | 14:45 |
| AJaeger | fungi: LGTM, +2. Thanks! | 14:45 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, could you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238492 , please? - do we need a change for python3-devel in other repos like system-config as well? | 14:50 |
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| anteaya | just talking with pleia2, she has had a busy week on the personal front | 14:51 |
| anteaya | she won't be able to make it on the monday to the board meeting | 14:51 |
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| anteaya | she says carry on without her and catch her up later | 14:51 |
| fungi | yep, i had a feeling she'd be hard pressed to make it to the normal sessions | 14:51 |
| anteaya | and if folks feel like being kind to her during summit, she probably would appreciate it | 14:51 |
| anteaya | fungi: yeah that might be the case | 14:52 |
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| anteaya | as for me I'm packing and holding the cat extra time and doing all the things as I leave tomorrow | 14:53 |
| anteaya | will check irc from time to time but mostly not here today | 14:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed openstack-infra/shade: handle routers without an external gateway in list_router_interfaces https://review.openstack.org/238552 | 14:56 |
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| dave-mccowan | Hello-- I'm creating the new project Marshal. My commit to project-config has merged. Now I need to be added to my gerrit groups marshal-core and marshal-release. Can someone help me out? | 15:19 |
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| jgriffith | fungi: ping | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | jgriffith: best to just ask | 15:29 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: :) | 15:29 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:29 |
| jgriffith | Looking for pointers on creating a stable branch in an OpenStack repo | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | which repo? | 15:30 |
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| jgriffith | Need to setup: fuel-plugin-solidfire-cinder / 6.1 | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | okay that repo has branch create permissions on it: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack/fuel-plugin-solidfire-cinder.config | 15:31 |
| anteaya | so that is a good place to start | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | jgriffith: looks like it exists: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/fuel-plugin-solidfire-cinder/refs/ | 15:31 |
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| jgriffith | anteaya: hehe... turns out my colleague figured it out while I was typing :) | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | jgriffith: the dual team effort | 15:33 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: fungi thanks all.... I'll go take a nap :) | 15:33 |
| anteaya | jgriffith: ha ha ha | 15:33 |
| anteaya | jgriffith: always nice to chat :) | 15:33 |
| anteaya | jgriffith: see you soon | 15:33 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: indeed! Safe travels, and cya next week! | 15:33 |
| anteaya | thanks you too | 15:33 |
| fungi | jgriffith: sorry, had stepped away for a sec | 15:34 |
| fungi | glad to see i wasn't needed after all! ;) | 15:35 |
| * fungi is at his best when entirely unnecessary | 15:35 | |
| fungi | clearly i should step away from the computer even more often | 15:36 |
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| dave-mccowan | fungi can you help me with a gerrit group? | 15:36 |
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| fungi | dave-mccowan: sure, just a moment | 15:36 |
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| fungi | dave-mccowan: done | 15:37 |
| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 15:37 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya, fungi: look what we got working last night: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 15:38 |
| fungi | mtreinish: wow! more proof that great things happen while i'm away from the computer | 15:38 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: heh, that comment is what reminded me you weren't online when it started working | 15:39 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: woooooo | 15:39 |
| fungi | heh | 15:39 |
| fungi | that's just plain awesomesauce | 15:39 |
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| fungi | what's the sort order on the gauges? | 15:40 |
| mtreinish | failure % | 15:40 |
| fungi | oh, looks like sort by least healthy | 15:40 |
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| fungi | yeah | 15:40 |
| yamamoto | mtreinish: what's the criteria for projects to be shown in it? | 15:40 |
| fungi | the % on the worst offenders looks like most of them have a very small sample size | 15:41 |
| mtreinish | yamamoto: it's every project that has a tempest or grenade gate job | 15:41 |
| anteaya | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/project/openstack-infra%252Fdevstack-gate | 15:41 |
| mtreinish | yamamoto: well really it's projects with data from runs in the subunit2sql db | 15:41 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: yeah the graphing needs work | 15:41 |
| fungi | four of the top five looks like harmonic ratios: 1/2, 1/4, 1/6, 1/10 | 15:42 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: it exists! | 15:42 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: yesterday it was json output | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Give congress-stable-maint rights to refs/stable/* https://review.openstack.org/238530 | 15:42 |
| anteaya | today pictures! \o/ | 15:42 |
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| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 15:42 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, yeah our overall tempest failure rate is actually pretty low in the gate | 15:42 |
| mtreinish | so the high percentages are just those unlucky projects that failed 1 of their 2 runs in the window | 15:43 |
| fungi | so basically most of the top there are skewed toward projects with very few changes approved, one of which failed | 15:43 |
| anteaya | how big is the window? | 15:43 |
| fungi | yeah | 15:43 |
| anteaya | as in what is the timeframe for this? | 15:43 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: the past 20 days | 15:43 |
| anteaya | wow | 15:44 |
| anteaya | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/project/openstack%252Fneutron | 15:44 |
| mtreinish | techincally it's dynamic, but we haven't added the slider yet | 15:44 |
| mtreinish | the js is hardcoded to be - 20 | 15:44 |
| anteaya | cool | 15:44 |
| yamamoto | mtreinish: i'm wondering why networking-ovn is there but networking-odl is not. | 15:44 |
| anteaya | yeah figured that was a yet to be implimented | 15:44 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: so the other thing to consider is these are just tempest failures or success right now | 15:45 |
| mtreinish | if the job fails before tempest runs it doesn't get counted | 15:45 |
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| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n5955 the networking odl layout.yaml | 15:45 |
| mtreinish | it's a limitation with using subunit2sql, we need a subunit stream to put in the db :) | 15:45 |
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| fungi | yamamoto: possible either networking-odl isn't running tempest/grenade jobs in the gate, or hasn't had a change approved in the 20-day window | 15:45 |
| mtreinish | one of the topics for discussion next week | 15:45 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: ah ha | 15:45 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: yes data is necessary to make the graph | 15:46 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya, yamamoto: yeah looking at the layout there isn't a gate tempest job on odl, just check | 15:46 |
| anteaya | zuul/layout.yaml has gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-odl on the networking-odl repo | 15:46 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: ah yes there it is, just in the check queue | 15:47 |
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| yamamoto | mtreinish: same is true for ovn, isn't it? | 15:48 |
| anteaya | now we do expect job run in check to run in teh gate but we can't seem to keep up with patches that diverge from that | 15:48 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: the real advantage of using subunit2sql is we can go into lower levels though like for: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/tests | 15:48 |
| mtreinish | which is needs a lot of work still | 15:48 |
| mtreinish | but makes fans of rainbows happy | 15:48 |
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| anteaya | yamamoto: yes http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n5995 | 15:48 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: woooohooooo, pretty colour palatte choice there | 15:49 |
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| * mtreinish just noticed it's hard to tell that the details text is a link for a dropdown | 15:50 | |
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| anteaya | yes I missed that | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | Test failures for tempest.api.telemetry has a small orange silo | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | ohhhhhh nice drop down | 15:51 |
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| anteaya | perhaps a little js triangle? | 15:51 |
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| mtreinish | yeah I think a triangle will help, I'll put it on the tracking etherpad as a todo | 15:51 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: any suggestions throw up on: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-health-tracking | 15:51 |
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| fungi | yamamoto: the reason gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-ovn is showing up is because it _was_ running in the gate pipeline until https://review.openstack.org/237821 merged yesterday | 15:52 |
| anteaya | okay thank you | 15:52 |
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| yamamoto | fungi: ah, i got it. thank you! | 15:53 |
| fungi | you're welcome | 15:54 |
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| yamamoto | can anyone help reviving midonet jobs? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230932/ | 16:02 |
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| ddieterly | when i do a 'stack.sh' on a vm with devstack installed, does that run the tempest tests along with tempest tests for any projects that have tempest tests plugins? | 16:08 |
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| ddieterly | or is there some special config that needs to be done to get the tests to run with stack.sh? | 16:09 |
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| ddieterly | or is it always a manual process to run the tempest tests in devstack? | 16:09 |
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| ddieterly | alternatively, if i use one of the dsvms that run the tempest tests in a gate job by configuring project-config, will the tempest tests be run automatically and discover the project specific tempest test plugins? | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Keep going on launchpad timeouts https://review.openstack.org/238598 | 16:12 |
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| yamamoto | ddieterly: devstack-gate runs tempest with tox -efull. it doesn't run tests provided by tempest plugins. | 16:12 |
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| ddieterly | how do we get project specific tempest plugins run in a gate job? what is the config magic? | 16:13 |
| ddieterly | i've been trying to use manila as an example | 16:14 |
| yamamoto | ddieterly: here's my attempt for neutron-fwaas https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237376/ | 16:14 |
| yamamoto | ddieterly: and this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237375/ | 16:14 |
| ddieterly | looking now... | 16:15 |
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| ddieterly | so i tlooks like this is important, export DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST=1 | 16:16 |
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| ddieterly | are the hooks documented anywhere? | 16:18 |
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| yamamoto | ddieterly: i don't know. i had to read source code. | 16:19 |
| clarkb | good morning /me catches up on scrollback | 16:20 |
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| clarkb | ddieterly: I don't think so, generally you don't have to use them if you are just enabling a plugin and running tempest | 16:20 |
| clarkb | (that is all doable without overriding hooks) | 16:20 |
| ddieterly | ah, thanks | 16:21 |
| zaro | morning | 16:21 |
| * zaro mostly not working today. | 16:21 | |
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| ddieterly | so, if we have the tempest plugin in our project, and we use the right dsvm that runs tempest test, then our project tempest plugin will be invoked? | 16:21 |
| clarkb | ddieterly: so yes you need to enable tempest with DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST=1 and you have to put the enable_plugin thing in your localrc via the localrc passthrough | 16:21 |
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| clarkb | ddieterly: well devstack does not run tempest | 16:21 |
| clarkb | ddieterly: devstack-gate does | 16:21 |
| clarkb | but yes | 16:22 |
| ddieterly | right, took me a while to realize that | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: handle routers without an external gateway in list_router_interfaces https://review.openstack.org/238552 | 16:22 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: in that case the devstack plugin will have to install the tempest plugin into the tox venv and the default regex will exclude tests from the plugin | 16:22 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: the full regex won't include the plugin tests? | 16:23 |
| mtreinish | no | 16:23 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tox.ini#L61 | 16:23 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: the health graphs are still line graphs that are hard to read :/ if I keep complaining I might end up tripping over more javascript | 16:23 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: hehe, it's on the etherpad list. I guess it has been of interest to anyone yet | 16:24 |
| ddieterly | ok, so bottom line, default devstack with stack.sh does not run tempest tests no matter how it is configured | 16:24 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I see, it excludes slow and includes api, scenario and thirdpary | 16:24 |
| clarkb | ddieterly: correct | 16:25 |
| ddieterly | ok, that took 1.5 days to figure out | 16:25 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: the part which excludes plugins though is ^tempest | 16:25 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: gotcha | 16:25 |
| mtreinish | because they're in a different python package | 16:25 |
| clarkb | right so the path is different | 16:26 |
| ddieterly | so, if we use the right dsvm then it will run tempest tests and invoke our project specific tempest plugin | 16:26 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: mind a review? If you are not too busy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237373/ | 16:27 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: fixes some bouncing tests for grafyaml because of issue in dogpile.cache it seems | 16:28 |
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| pabelanger | timrc_: We might also want to just disable caching support when we do validation by default, I don't see actually need the need for it when testing local yaml files | 16:29 |
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| clarkb | ddieterly: you have to use devstack-gate | 16:36 |
| clarkb | ddieterly: devstack will not run tempest for you | 16:36 |
| ddieterly | clarkb: thanks | 16:36 |
| clarkb | ddieterly: and I was mistaken that the default tempest run would just work | 16:36 |
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| clarkb | ddieterly: so you may need to add a post_test_hook to run your tempest tests | 16:37 |
| ddieterly | clarkb: ok, thanks, no problem ;-) | 16:37 |
| ddieterly | ok, i'll leverage from the manila project | 16:37 |
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| ddieterly | looking at https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/README.rst to see how to test our changes to add a new gate and run the tempest tests | 16:38 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: also those instructions aren't necessarily tested regularly either, so expect that they might be subtly wrong and could need fixing | 16:40 |
| fungi | but if you get stuck we can work through whatever's not quite right and get a fix pushed up for the readme too | 16:40 |
| ddieterly | fungi: ah, thanks for the heads up. i'll updated the doc if i find an issue. | 16:40 |
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| ddieterly | just out of curiosity, is the fact that hp public cloud is going away going to have any significant impact on the nodepool infrastructure? | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Lukas Vacek proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Add optional kerberos support https://review.openstack.org/238535 | 16:46 |
| ddieterly | i.e., will it cause any significant issues? | 16:46 |
| fungi | ddieterly: we're always in the process of adding new providers. right now we're working on integrating resources from ovh and bluebox | 16:47 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: also we're going to chat with someone from hpcloud next week about the transition | 16:48 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: so short answer is no, i don't think there ought to be any noticeable impact | 16:48 |
| ddieterly | ok | 16:50 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: timrc_: 237373 seems to have raised a dbm exception (via dogpile.cache) in its py34 run in the gate just now | 16:59 |
| fungi | nondeterminism at its finest | 16:59 |
| fungi | you might want to take note of the hash seed from that job so you can reproduce locally | 17:00 |
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| ddieterly | fungi: looks like in order to be able to follow the instructions at https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/README.rst one would need an account with a provider? | 17:09 |
| clarkb | like zaro I will mostly not be working today, have a whole list of things to do around home to make sure family is ready for me to afk for a week | 17:10 |
| fungi | ddieterly: well, if you happen to have a local virtual machine which meets the stated requirements you could skip the nova boot parts | 17:10 |
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| ddieterly | ok, that's what i thought. i can use a vm in virtual box, right? | 17:11 |
| fungi | ddieterly: the point though is to start with a fresh, basically unconfigured system which you don't mind getting destroyed by devstack | 17:11 |
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| ddieterly | yea, i have a 'clone-me' ubuntu 14.04 in virtual box ready to go | 17:12 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: ack | 17:12 |
| fungi | ddieterly: yep, should be sufficient as long as it has enough ram and locak disk, though if performance is lower than the nova instances we use upstream you may need to fiddle with the devstack-gate timeout envvar | 17:12 |
| anteaya | and ack to zaro from earlier | 17:12 |
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| ddieterly | fungi: cool | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable voting for fuel-library gates https://review.openstack.org/238628 | 17:12 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: might make sense to just crank up the dg timeout to something like 4 hours just to make sure it doesn't get cut short on you, if you're not sure | 17:13 |
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| ddieterly | ok | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Shtokolov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled applicable gates, removed non-applicable checks for Fuel repos https://review.openstack.org/236068 | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Add some documentation for using os-client-config with nodepool.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237365 | 17:16 |
| zaro | clarkb: wow, how thing have changed... :) | 17:16 |
| clarkb | zaro: haha ya | 17:16 |
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| fungi | well, i'm mostly here if needed, just doing last-minute prep in quick spurts as breaks allow | 17:18 |
| clarkb | zaro: its mostly making sure that larissa has what she needs so that she doesn't need to pack everyone into a car for emergency supplies. That and doctor visit and making sure I have a phone for tokyo | 17:19 |
| anteaya | oh yeah, phone | 17:20 |
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| zaro | clarkb: yeah, same story here just with older kids :) | 17:23 |
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| zaro | ATT phone won't work? what? | 17:23 |
| clarkb | zaro: its tmobile, but my nexus 5 died a couple wekends ago and my nexus 5x should arrive today | 17:23 |
| clarkb | zaro: but I need a new simcard beacuse the size changed | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update pyelasticsearch to 1.4 https://review.openstack.org/238633 | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: you can cut the sim down to size | 17:26 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: someone was telling me you oculd do that between regular size and micro but not micro and nano | 17:26 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: because all 3 dimensions changed | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | I was able to cut my micro down to the nano | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | I bought a little punch for like $5 on amazon | 17:27 |
| clarkb | hrm, or I can just go to tmobile store and they likely do it for free :) | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | heh, that's a fair point | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | I don't think there is a tmobile store anywhere near me | 17:27 |
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| zaro | ohh 5x, that's what i wanted a few months ago. phones are way too phat these day | 17:30 |
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| clarkb | zaro: ya they keep getting bigger and bigger. even the 5x is bigger than the 5 :/ | 17:31 |
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| zaro | i got this Blu vivo air phone and it's been great, just the right size and super slim and super cheap. | 17:32 |
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| clarkb | the international moto x is smaller and would be ideal but you can't get them here | 17:32 |
| anteaya | an air phone? like you pump it up like air shoes? | 17:33 |
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| * anteaya is completely failing to imagine why anyone would want that | 17:33 | |
| clarkb | anteaya: its just a model name looks like | 17:34 |
| clarkb | its a small thin phone | 17:34 |
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| anteaya | ah okay | 17:35 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya, clarkb: Quick question for you: Reviewing zuul/layout.yaml I often find the same pattern of problems, what do you think of a "Best practice" section for jobs? And where should that live? Infra Manual? | 17:36 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: lookin sweet | 17:37 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I think we would want something like that in the infra manual as I don't expect it to be zuul specific but more openstack specific | 17:37 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I think that is a good idea | 17:37 |
| zaro | AJaeger: you should just fix it all with one big change :) | 17:37 |
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| anteaya | zaro: ha ha ha | 17:38 |
| anteaya | zaro: he does | 17:38 |
| AJaeger | zaro: rm zuul/layout.yaml? ;) | 17:38 |
| anteaya | it doesnt' stick | 17:38 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: on further googling the nano is 15% thinner than micro but many sim card trays don't seem to mind | 17:38 |
| anteaya | anyone want the tomato sitting on my kitchen counter? | 17:38 |
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| mwhahaha | AJaeger: replied to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238628/, they voting in that change | 17:39 |
| nibalizer | AJaeger: i love that idea | 17:39 |
| nibalizer | especially as a primer for new project-config reviewers | 17:39 |
| AJaeger | mwhahaha: let me double check the tests... | 17:40 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer: ;) | 17:40 |
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| mwhahaha | AJaeger: what exactly do you look for to determine that? i was looking at the test output and couldn't figure out what correlates to voting | 17:40 |
| AJaeger | mwhahaha: "<Job gate-fuel-library-puppet-unit-4.0-dsvm-centos7> ^(?!stable/(?:5\.0|5\.1|6\.0|6\.1|7\.0)).*$ [nonvoting]" | 17:40 |
| mwhahaha | 4.0 is not included in gate: | 17:41 |
| AJaeger | mwhahaha: you're right... | 17:41 |
| mwhahaha | the name is a mis-nomer | 17:41 |
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| * mwhahaha throws things at the upstream puppet job naming convention | 17:41 | |
| AJaeger | mwhahaha: indeed, you've done a great job ;) | 17:41 |
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| mwhahaha | i'm trying :) | 17:42 |
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| AJaeger | mwhahaha: the order of entries is important and sometimes it surprises you... | 17:42 |
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| clarkb | fungi: also I need to print maps | 17:42 |
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| fungi | yep | 17:42 |
| fungi | also, read the maps | 17:42 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer: anything special I should cover? | 17:42 |
| clarkb | I am told that maps are very important and that no one should get lost because the foundation staff have prepared excellent maps | 17:42 |
| clarkb | that everyone should read | 17:43 |
| clarkb | btw if you are going to the summit and don't have the maps yet you should get some maps | 17:43 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer: I'll add you to the review ;) | 17:43 |
| * AJaeger is just proof-reading an article about OpenStack CI that will appear next month in a German magazine ;) | 17:44 | |
| clarkb | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Mitaka/Travel_Tips#Airport_transit for those wanting links | 17:44 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: neat | 17:44 |
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| * AJaeger hopefully understands now the big picture better ;) | 17:44 | |
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| AJaeger | having to explain it to a broader audience is interesting... | 17:45 |
| nibalizer | AJaeger: its a long shot, but explaining when to add branch-designator and how would be great | 17:46 |
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| nibalizer | also ofc just 'how to make a test nonvoting' 'how to make a specific branch the only thing that tests' | 17:46 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: maybe we should s/branch-designator/job-suffix/g in all those files | 17:47 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer: the later two are on my list - and I wanted to cover -nv as well | 17:47 |
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| clarkb | as job-suffix makes more sense considering how branch-designator has been used | 17:47 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: ++ | 17:48 |
| jesusaurus | ++ for s/branch-designator/job-suffix/g | 17:48 |
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| AJaeger | nibalizer: send a patch, clarkb and myself will +2 directly ;) | 17:48 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I hear maps are a good idea | 17:48 |
| AJaeger | we haven't forced rebases of everything for the last two days, so it's time again ;) | 17:48 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yes, you should print off some maps or otherwise have them handy | 17:48 |
| anteaya | print off the maps okay I can do that | 17:49 |
| krotscheck | QUick sanity check, has anyone started work on the pypi.<region>.openstack.org -> mirror.<region>.openstack.org rename? | 17:49 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: the wiki link has direct urls to the paper printout directions and video tutorial thing too | 17:49 |
| nibalizer | AJaeger: then we all get on planes right? | 17:49 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: exactly | 17:49 |
| nibalizer | immunity | 17:49 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: not that I know of | 17:49 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Coolio. | 17:49 |
| anteaya | clarkb: okey dokey | 17:49 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: though thats a fairly straightforward dns change once we have apache serving things properly | 17:49 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer: go offline ;) | 17:49 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: AJaeger isn't going to be at summit | 17:50 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: but he will be at next summit, he penciled austin in | 17:50 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: are you joining mriedem in disney world? | 17:50 |
| * clarkb is worried this will be his future in a few years | 17:51 | |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: no plans for Disney World yet ;) | 17:51 |
| anteaya | so says mriedem | 17:51 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: It'd be three patches, no? One to update the mirror's pypi hosting directory and make sure the old paths still 302 to the new ones, one to point the various jenkins bits to the new mirror paths, and one to get rid of the 302, no? | 17:51 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: I would just make apache serve the mirrors at any name and update dns | 17:52 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: then in a month or two remove the old dns entry. These are not public mirrors for general consumption so as soon as our jobs are updated we are good | 17:52 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: Well, the reason we're doing this in the first place is to move pypi.openstack.org -> mirror.openstack.org/pypi | 17:53 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: So we can make room for mvn, npm, etc. | 17:53 |
| clarkb | yes | 17:53 |
| clarkb | so two A records one for pypi.openstack.org and one for mirror.openstack.org (or CNAME) | 17:53 |
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| clarkb | update apache, update jobs, delete old DNS records | 17:54 |
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| clarkb | we don't need redirects though could do it that way | 17:54 |
| clarkb | (it just makes the coordination a bit more difficult imo) | 17:54 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: The server will have to point requests against /* -> /pypi/* while the jobs update, no? | 17:54 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: ya but thats easy | 17:54 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: mod_alias? | 17:55 |
| clarkb | I am more concerned about 302ing the fqdn | 17:55 |
| clarkb | since that requires coordination between apache and dns which isn't strictly necessary | 17:55 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: Oh, what I meant to say is 302'ing via mod_rewrite to the new folder. | 17:55 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: ya thats one way of doing that bit | 17:56 |
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| clarkb | I think you can also just alias | 17:57 |
| clarkb | either way will work and since its not a public service we don't have to be too worried about all the things | 17:58 |
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| clarkb | Alias / /srv/mirror/pypi and Alias /pypi /srv/mirror/pypi | 17:58 |
| clarkb | then rm the first alis once jobs are updated | 17:58 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Oh. Nice. | 17:58 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Alright, I'll look into it. | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for governance.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238644 | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for specs.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238645 | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for docs-draft.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238646 | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for trystack.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238647 | 17:59 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: may need to double check overlapping paths like that but I expect it to work | 18:00 |
| clarkb | usually its a longest path wins situation | 18:00 |
| clarkb | s/path/match/ | 18:00 |
| anteaya | clarkb: that is a good video | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | there are ramen recommendations on the wiki \o/ | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | and udon | 18:03 |
| clarkb | ooh udon for breakfast | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | this may become a thing | 18:03 |
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| fungi | i love the specificity of noodle options on that wiki article. someone clearly understands that noodles are serious business | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | the tonkotsu looks good | 18:05 |
| fungi | also, cold soba for breakfast == oishii | 18:05 |
| fungi | and yeah, i have a hard time passing up a good tonkotsu, especially if they add a pile of kamaboko | 18:06 |
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| clarkb | I love the ocmment about how toilets confuse locals too | 18:07 |
| fungi | hee | 18:07 |
| fungi | might be wise to bring or buy pocket packs of toilet tissue (convenience stores will have 'em) | 18:07 |
| clarkb | don't push the SOS button | 18:08 |
| clarkb | hrm I may need to take photos of all this stuff on phone for reference | 18:08 |
| anteaya | o-ri-ma-su | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | handy | 18:09 |
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| fungi | i expect to be saying sumimasen a lot (and also probably wakarimasen) | 18:12 |
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| fungi | that's about all i remember from high school at this point | 18:12 |
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| anteaya | wakarimasen is something I should get painted on a t-shirt | 18:14 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 18:14 |
| greghaynes | fungi: thats probably the most useful thing you can remember ;) | 18:15 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: thinking back to the grades i earned in class, that may be all i ever learned to start with | 18:15 |
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| * fungi was a terrible student | 18:15 | |
| greghaynes | haha | 18:16 |
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| * taron studied japanese in high school for four years, remembers none of it | 18:16 | |
| greghaynes | its ok, I studied Latin in school, it is not entirely useful when traveling. | 18:16 |
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| taron | but I got to visit japan, so there's that | 18:16 |
| anteaya | greghaynes: latin is great for anatomy class | 18:17 |
| fungi | taron: awesome. it's been over two decades since i was in high school japanese, so i'm going to blame old age | 18:17 |
| greghaynes | anteaya: Yep, its great while still in school. | 18:17 |
| anteaya | or if anatomy continues to be useful | 18:17 |
| fungi | i did four years of latin, remember none of that either | 18:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: you remember some | 18:17 |
| taron | hah, same except one year | 18:17 |
| anteaya | you've pulled out the latin before | 18:17 |
| fungi | though i think i got marginally better grades in latin than japanese | 18:17 |
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| greghaynes | all I remember is my dislike of diclensions | 18:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Ensure changelog log output is written if it already exists https://review.openstack.org/231268 | 18:18 |
| anteaya | greghaynes: wakarimasen | 18:18 |
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| greghaynes | Me either, thats the problem :) | 18:18 |
| taron | I hated declension, but I've always loved conjugating verbs | 18:19 |
| taron | then german adjective endings happened | 18:19 |
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| greghaynes | hah, yep, I remember comiserating with German students. | 18:20 |
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| fungi | i did pretty well in german | 18:20 |
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| fungi | though i only took a year, i probably still remember more of it than any other non-computer language | 18:21 |
| fungi | probably because i'm a native english speaker and english is a decidedly germanic language | 18:21 |
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| jesusaurus | greghaynes: you could always travel to the vatican to exercise your latin | 18:23 |
| greghaynes | hah | 18:24 |
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| anteaya | jesusaurus: do they speak latin there in daily discourse? | 18:25 |
| jesusaurus | not really, but it's still the official language of the catholic church, so it's around | 18:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add some Zuul Best Practices https://review.openstack.org/238656 | 18:26 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer, anteaya, clarkb ^ | 18:26 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: nicely done | 18:28 |
| AJaeger | thanks, anteaya | 18:29 |
| anteaya | thanks for writing that up | 18:30 |
| anteaya | jesusaurus: cool | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add some Zuul Best Practices https://review.openstack.org/238656 | 18:32 |
| * AJaeger hopes to point to it during reviews ;) | 18:32 | |
| anteaya | AJaeger: yes, exactly | 18:33 |
| AJaeger | Just updated after proofreading... | 18:33 |
| anteaya | this would be for us :) | 18:33 |
| anteaya | did I miss something? | 18:33 |
| AJaeger | One or two nits only... | 18:33 |
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| anteaya | okay yeah, that sentence is better like that | 18:36 |
| AJaeger | thanks for the reviews, anteaya ! | 18:36 |
| anteaya | of course | 18:37 |
| anteaya | :) | 18:37 |
| anteaya | really wish you were going to be in tokyo | 18:37 |
| AJaeger | yeah, I'm feeling bad now with all of you leaving... | 18:38 |
| SpamapS | fungi: do you know if the Rackspace Trove has some kind of backup option? | 18:39 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: ? | 18:39 |
| SpamapS | mordred: ^? | 18:39 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: it does, but iirc the reason it's not used is it's not multi region | 18:39 |
| mtreinish | or something like that | 18:39 |
| fungi | SpamapS: it does, it's filesystem snapshotting aiui | 18:39 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: austin though right? you are going to be in austin in the spring? | 18:39 |
| fungi | SpamapS: and, yeah as mtreinish points out, it's not cross-region | 18:40 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: it's in my calendar ;) but too early to book ;) | 18:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: SpamapS and it isn't append only | 18:40 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: okay good | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | fungi: so, it took 28h to import that dump file | 18:41 |
| fungi | SpamapS: nice! | 18:41 |
| fungi | that doesn't seem scalable | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | granted, the disks on this server were not exactly _good_ | 18:41 |
| AJaeger | zaro, you reported the gerrit/firefox problem at https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=3582 - do you have a solution - besides using chromium? | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | but even if I quadrupled the disk write speed to 200MB/s ... | 18:41 |
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| SpamapS | there are optimizations too.. | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | we could probably get the dump load time down to 5h or so | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | but if the rackspace backup solution allows more rapid recovery.... | 18:42 |
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| SpamapS | http://docs.rackspace.com/cdb/api/v1.0/cdb-getting-started/content/Backup_Instance_Trove.html <-- super useful... tell me to backup.. tell me how to backup.. offer no information on restoring | 18:42 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: I think he has a patch that replaces the use of % with / in urls for our gerrit instance he is testing | 18:43 |
| fungi | SpamapS: it's write-only backups | 18:43 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: https://developer.rackspace.com/docs/cloud-databases/v1/developer-guide/#restore-backup | 18:43 |
| mtreinish | maybe | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | fungi: brilliant! | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | like S4 | 18:44 |
| fungi | super fast as long as you never, ever need a restore! | 18:44 |
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| greghaynes | Also extremely scalable | 18:44 |
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| fungi | indeed | 18:44 |
| fungi | near infinite compression | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | webscale | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | so, the only way to use those is to create a new instance from them? | 18:44 |
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| AJaeger | ah, thanks anteaya | 18:45 |
| lifeless | can we snapshot the volume instead? | 18:45 |
| fungi | SpamapS: that's all i've found when looking at it in the past | 18:45 |
| fungi | lifeless: we could except we have no control over mounting volumes into a trove instance | 18:45 |
| lifeless | fungi: oh ah well | 18:45 |
| lifeless | fungi: clearly we should switch to cassandra :) | 18:45 |
| SpamapS | fungi: your mysqldump took what, 8h? | 18:46 |
| mtreinish | lifeless: also iirc it doesn't use a cinder volume, just the ephemeral disk | 18:46 |
| * SpamapS researches faster dumpers | 18:46 | |
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| fungi | SpamapS: probably roughly. i didn't time it and fell asleep | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Add some documentation for using os-client-config with nodepool.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237365 | 18:47 |
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| fungi | as soon as i find a way to replace my remaining meat with cybernetics i will probably be able to stop the annoying sleeping habit | 18:48 |
| clarkb | which isn't actually ephemeral at rax | 18:48 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236056/ | 18:49 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: it is for how gerrit formats urls for cgit, not for itself though | 18:49 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I remembered incorrectly | 18:49 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: so, that might not fix all problems - but one good step. Thanks | 18:51 |
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| anteaya | yeah, welcome | 18:52 |
| mtreinish | clarkb, fungi: is there an issue with status.o.o, I'm having trouble connecting to it | 18:52 |
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| mtreinish | I also didn't see it in cacti | 18:52 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: indeed, i seem to be timing out trying to reach it. perhaps rax is doing a cold migration to a patched xen host | 18:53 |
| anteaya | I also can't connect on a refresh | 18:53 |
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| fungi | 100% packet loss for ping and ping6 | 18:54 |
| anteaya | :( | 18:55 |
| SpamapS | hm | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add status.o.o to cacti https://review.openstack.org/238663 | 18:56 |
| clarkb | thats how you know its time to get packing for summit | 18:56 |
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| fungi | trying to get to a virtual console but it just sits there spinning at "loading console" so wondering if the nova host is toes-up | 18:56 |
| mtreinish | fungi: ^^^ that explains the missing from cacti bit | 18:56 |
| fungi | thanks mtreinish | 18:56 |
| fungi | it probably got missed when we split status.o.o off of static.o.o | 18:57 |
| mtreinish | it's easy to forget, I missed it on adding health.o.o too | 18:57 |
| mtreinish | https://review.openstack.org/237823 | 18:58 |
| SpamapS | so, cross-region or not, I think this database has to be backed up | 18:58 |
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| SpamapS | mysqldumping it would be o-k, but seems kind of silly when you have their backup facility right there | 18:58 |
| clarkb | at least historically we haven't treated the test artifacts as requiring infinite lifetime and backups | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Add some documentation for using os-client-config with nodepool.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237365 | 18:59 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: no, I'm thinking DR, thats all. | 18:59 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: yes I know | 18:59 |
| clarkb | I am saying we have never done that | 18:59 |
| clarkb | so not sure why this is different | 18:59 |
| SpamapS | as in, the facility would be entirely unavailable for several days. | 18:59 |
| clarkb | yes | 18:59 |
| SpamapS | Oh ok we don't care. COol. :) | 18:59 |
| clarkb | and new tests would be run and we would move on | 18:59 |
| clarkb | at least ^ seems to have been the historical attitude | 18:59 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: yeah ther never was a guarantee here | 19:00 |
| fungi | hrm, the only ticket for a cold migration mentions ci-backup-rs-ord.openstack.org getting a cold migration in the middle of the night (na) tonight | 19:00 |
| mtreinish | my goal was to have at least 6 months worth of stuff in the db | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | I'm kind of in the "if it's worth keeping in a db, it's worth backing up" | 19:00 |
| fungi | nothing else in that tenant | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | camp | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | but .. meh. | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | that's one thing, 6 months of history would be lost.. no problem? | 19:00 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: I'm still on the fence | 19:00 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: yes, if it is a problem you rebuild from the source | 19:00 |
| anteaya | fungi: hmmm | 19:01 |
| clarkb | (this was ES stance) | 19:01 |
| fungi | nothing looks related on status.rackspace.com either | 19:01 |
| lifeless | if we still have the subunit streams | 19:01 |
| lifeless | we can just reload them | 19:01 |
| clarkb | lifeless: right | 19:01 |
| lifeless | depends if this is an optimisation | 19:01 |
| lifeless | or the primary store | 19:01 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ugh, I don't look forward to writing that scraping script if we ever need it | 19:01 |
| SpamapS | haha | 19:01 |
| lifeless | my plan is to have testr reporting directly to the testrepository API | 19:01 |
| SpamapS | mysqldump has 0 logic, and took 28h to get the data that is in now. | 19:01 |
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| lifeless | so it not clear to me that we would have separate traces | 19:02 |
| lifeless | in future | 19:02 |
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| SpamapS | I'm not sure why there'd be any resistance to just snapping the db once a day and keeping 2 around. It would be a lot simpler than re-importing 6 months of subunit streams. | 19:02 |
| clarkb | sure I don't think there is resistance. I am just taking issue with "We must back this up" | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | no I don't think anyone said must | 19:03 |
| clarkb | which is an assertion wehvae never made with the first derivative job log indexes | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | sorry if I implied that | 19:03 |
| fungi | if i can't get the web console to connect, i'm going to try to reboot status.o.o next | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | It's "zomg this is a lot of data it is hard to move around" | 19:03 |
| anteaya | fungi: seems reasonable | 19:03 |
| clarkb | fungi: have you tried turning it off and on again? | 19:03 |
| fungi | clarkb: indeed | 19:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add health.openstack.org to cacti https://review.openstack.org/237823 | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS: fungi mtreinish how big was the gzipped backup? it took 8 hours though which means we probably don't want the pre migration backup to happen afterall? | 19:05 |
| fungi | nova at least claims that the instance is still active | 19:05 |
| fungi | clarkb: 12gb with xz at default compression | 19:05 |
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| fungi | (i didn't try gzip) | 19:06 |
| mtreinish | fungi, clarkb: my copy says 14gb :) | 19:06 |
| mtreinish | the one I pulled from fungi | 19:06 |
| fungi | mtreinish: oh, yep i was going from memory. i've already deleted the original | 19:06 |
| fungi | trying a nova reboot of status.o.o now | 19:07 |
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| mtreinish | hard or soft? | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | ok so that would fit on disk | 19:08 |
| fungi | hard i think. did it through the dashboard | 19:08 |
| clarkb | just may not be appropriate to run before every migration | 19:08 |
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| mtreinish | heh, soft never works for me anyway | 19:08 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yeah i backed it on on review-dev because i didn't want to possibly overrun the disk on a production system (and didn't know how big it would end up being) | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: and if the migration goes south.. thats a 28h recovery. | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS: ok | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | assuming the trove instance is at least as performant as my mediocre-IO server | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | could be faster if the trove instance is SSD backed | 19:09 |
| clarkb | (I dunno I am not super worried about a service that doesn't even really exist yet... but maybe qa has differnet opinions) | 19:09 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: it was there this morning :) | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | Yeah I think if it's acceptable to be down for a couple of days at a time, then just deal. | 19:10 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: but no one is using it | 19:10 |
| fungi | yeah, nova api reports the instance status as HARD_REBOOT | 19:10 |
| mtreinish | heh, true | 19:10 |
| clarkb | and it isn't linked to or advertised yet. its still very much in the lets do this but not tell everyone stage from what I can tell | 19:10 |
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| mtreinish | still not quite into useful territory yet | 19:10 |
| clarkb | and maybe figureing out recovery of data source in less than 28hours is part of that process | 19:10 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: still.. begs the question.. if the rackspace database backup is relatively instantaneous as a snap of the LVM/FS/etc. .. why not use it? | 19:10 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: because as jeblair points out our only real fail case is when our cloud accounts get deleted | 19:11 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: migration fail | 19:11 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: and when that happens your backups in the same region under the same account are useless | 19:11 |
| fungi | SpamapS: for something like this where we want to make a temporary backup so we can roll back a migration it might make sense | 19:11 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: we have not had one of those yet | 19:11 |
| fungi | but not for long-term archival purposes | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | so I think the worry is premature optimization when we know we need ot solve for X | 19:11 |
| clarkb | we should just solve for X | 19:11 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: we've been very lucky on that front. I've written all the migrations | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | where X is offsite backups | 19:12 |
| mtreinish | it's kind of a miracle I haven't killed everything yet :) | 19:12 |
| clarkb | and X will cover Y | 19:12 |
| mtreinish | well, mordred wrote 1 too I guess | 19:12 |
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| clarkb | if the assertion is we don't really care about the data but do want a backupfor migration derps sure lets do that | 19:13 |
| clarkb | if the assertion is we really care about the data then we need something else | 19:13 |
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| fungi | the status.o.o instance is still sitting there in HARD_REBOOT so i think we're looking at something serious. i'll open a ticket with the fanatics | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | for the really caring about the database, the only options are a) deal with the pain of mysqldumping, b) setup a slave in a second region and snap that one too, c) run a server ourselves. | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | IMO those are all big jobs and not worth the effort. | 19:14 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I'm not making a assertion about either. I added the pre-migration backup because I thought it would be prudent | 19:14 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: ok so you are going with my first assertion of good enough backups for minor screw ups. And major screw up we would deal with by moving forward or reimporting data | 19:14 |
| mtreinish | but it's never worked, so it wasn't a big deal | 19:14 |
| clarkb | for that I can see using the trove backups | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS: fwiw mordred keeps threatening the C option for all our services | 19:16 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: so that we can more easily run slaves and pull backups off them and so on | 19:17 |
| clarkb | (our other DBs aren't huge enough to have major mysqldump problems at least not yet) | 19:17 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I kinda like that idea | 19:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Add some documentation for using os-client-config with nodepool.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237365 | 19:17 |
| fungi | rackspace ticket for status.o.o outage is 151022-dfw-0002976 | 19:18 |
| anteaya | I don't see jroll in the -ironic channel today | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: it's not that hard, but I think it should be avoided unless we get stuck because Trove can't do something for us that is priority 1. | 19:19 |
| fungi | oh, they just opened a ticket for us... | 19:19 |
| fungi | "This message is to inform you that the host your cloud server 'status.openstack.org' resides on alerted our monitoring systems at 19:16 UTC. We are currently investigating the issue and will update you as soon as we have additional information regarding what is causing the alert. Please do not access or modify 'status.openstack.org' during this process. | 19:19 |
| fungi | " | 19:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: whoops :) | 19:19 |
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| fungi | clarkb: similar one for logstash-worker05 | 19:19 |
| mtreinish | fungi: maybe a host died | 19:20 |
| fungi | yeah | 19:20 |
| clarkb | fungi: cool, that shouldn't cause any major problems we have 19 other hosts in that cluster | 19:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Expose extras information in requirements https://review.openstack.org/237544 | 19:26 |
| sdague | well, we've been seeing those ext4 errors on other nodes | 19:28 |
| sdague | I wonder if a set of disks are starting to age | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add flexible HTTPS support for production vhost https://review.openstack.org/238668 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for logs.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238669 | 19:28 |
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| krotscheck | What does the $group variable do in system-config/site.pp? | 19:31 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: explained as hiera lookup related in https://review.openstack.org/164842 | 19:32 |
| fungi | (courtesy of git blame) | 19:33 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Thanks :) | 19:33 |
| fungi | looks like it's to identify grouping-specific hiera files for ansible to use in a masterless setup | 19:33 |
| fungi | nibalizer: will probably correct me | 19:34 |
| clarkb | ya I think it is to avoid writing host specific files when we have clusters of identical nodes | 19:34 |
| clarkb | the default is to use host specific file copy via ansible which means lots of copying for clusters | 19:34 |
| fungi | status.o.o is responding to ping again | 19:34 |
| sdague | fungi: it seems to be on http as well | 19:34 |
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| fungi | up 6 min | 19:35 |
| anteaya | sdague: I see the same | 19:35 |
| fungi | so i guess it booted up okay | 19:35 |
| fungi | logstash-worker05 seems to be up again too | 19:36 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: yep, looks that way | 19:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for trystack.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238647 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add HTTPS for logs.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238669 | 19:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add flexible HTTPS support for production vhost https://review.openstack.org/238668 | 19:43 |
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| thinrichs | Could someone add me to the congress-stable-maint group that was just created? | 19:46 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1145,members | 19:46 |
| thinrichs | username is thinrich (timothy.l.hinrichs@gmail.com) | 19:46 |
| thinrichs | name is Tim Hinrichs | 19:47 |
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| fungi | thinrichs: now i just need your passport number and a valid credit card | 19:51 |
| fungi | thinrichs: kidding of course, added you | 19:51 |
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| thinrichs | fungi: :) | 19:54 |
| thinrichs | fungi: thanks! | 19:54 |
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| fungi | you're welcome | 19:56 |
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| thinrichs | fungi: I don't seem to have +2 rights on stable/liberty branch. Did I goof on the ACLs? | 20:00 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237221/ | 20:00 |
| thinrichs | ACLs: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/congress,access | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add flexible HTTPS support for production vhost https://review.openstack.org/238668 | 20:01 |
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| fungi | thinrichs: browsers tend to aggressively cache gerrit since it's a monolithic javascript app in a single page. try force refreshing when you're in the review view with the radio buttons for votes | 20:02 |
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| fungi | you should see it switch from just cr -1..+1 to -2..+2 options | 20:03 |
| fungi | thinrichs: if that doesn't help, gerrit also has some server-side caching for access lookups, so i may need to flush a cache to see if that's delayed it for you | 20:04 |
| thinrichs | fungi: refresh didn't work, but a different browser did. So it's nothing you need to worry about. Thanks again! | 20:05 |
| fungi | thinrichs: cool. chances are your other browser will sort itself out with a new tab or a restart in that case | 20:05 |
| thinrichs | Got it | 20:06 |
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| fungi | i'm gonna go grab something to eat. if anybody needs anything, i'll check back in an hour or so | 20:13 |
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| anteaya | fungi: ack | 20:17 |
| anteaya | enjoy food | 20:17 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Do you have a pastebin of your manifests/local.pp and/or your Vagrantfile I can use? | 20:18 |
| * krotscheck doesn't want to duplicate work | 20:18 | |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: I don't use either | 20:46 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: I just make a test.pp usually and puppet apply test.pp | 20:46 |
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| clarkb | sometimes you can get away with puppet apply -e 'include thing' | 20:48 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: clarkb oh nice. we lost some machines eh? | 20:51 |
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| mordred | nibalizer, clarkb, fungi: anyting I can help with? | 20:59 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: I actually do want to set up a C outselves - I just havne't gotten to it | 21:01 |
| mordred | SpamapS: (good morning!) | 21:01 |
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| anteaya | mordred: I think rax had an blip and servers appear to be back again | 21:03 |
| anteaya | mordred: I don't know as we have been informed yet what was behind the blip | 21:03 |
| * anteaya didn't see anything mentioned in channel, or if it was she missed it | 21:03 | |
| SpamapS | mordred: ahoy | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled applicable gates, removed non-applicable checks for Fuel repos https://review.openstack.org/236068 | 21:04 |
| SpamapS | mordred: and I wouldn't mind it, but it begs the question... why aren't troves good enough? | 21:04 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: it does beg that question doesn't it? | 21:07 |
| mordred | SpamapS: and I think my answer is that they seem fine for a lot of tihngs -but once we get in to things like "I want to xtrabackup this and then move a copy of that off the cloud for DR purposes" | 21:08 |
| mordred | SpamapS: or "I want to run a replication slave in a different cloud" | 21:08 |
| mordred | things quickly go down hill | 21:08 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: I think those can all be facilitated, and should be. | 21:12 |
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| anteaya | mordred: jeanne says she was in an earthquake already, have you experienced an earthquake? | 21:12 |
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| mordred | anteaya: not to my knowledge | 21:13 |
| anteaya | okay | 21:14 |
| mordred | SpamapS: with troves? | 21:14 |
| clarkb | anteaya: http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/ | 21:15 |
| anteaya | clarkb: cool, that one seems pretty far from tokyo | 21:17 |
| clarkb | and small but shallow | 21:17 |
| clarkb | earthquakes are funny | 21:17 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: yeah, they could upload the xtrabackup to swift, and all of the other bits are config bits that would be easy to expose. | 21:20 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: I believe they do this | 21:22 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: but last I checked the xtrabackup was not accessible by us directly | 21:23 |
| mordred | SpamapS: and my suggestions that it should be were met with shock and dismay | 21:23 |
| lifeless | mordred: do we have dates for the upcoming summits? | 21:24 |
| lifeless | mordred: lynne wants to go see blue man group in june | 21:25 |
| mordred | lifeless: we have austin | 21:25 |
| lifeless | mordred: but I don't want to conflict with the summit.... | 21:25 |
| mordred | lifeless: april 25-29 | 21:25 |
| lifeless | ok cool | 21:25 |
| mordred | lifeless: so you're clear for blue men | 21:25 |
| lifeless | \o/ | 21:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: lifeless the next two are published fwiw at https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/faq/ | 21:26 |
| lifeless | clarkb: thanks | 21:27 |
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| clarkb | er I guess next 3 technically | 21:27 |
| clarkb | for some reason I assume tokyo is/has happened | 21:27 |
| lifeless | lol. the 'may summit' will be in april | 21:27 |
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| mordred | lifeless: it's the "May" summit | 21:28 |
| lifeless | mordred: still confused | 21:28 |
| mordred | lifeless: "May" | 21:28 |
| SpamapS | mordred: oh, so the backup thing they implemented is actually xtrabackup? Thats crazysauce that we can't get to it then. | 21:29 |
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| lifeless | mordred: as in possible? | 21:29 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: I believe it's pluggable baed on deployer choice | 21:29 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I can't rmeember which one HP runs and which one Rackspace runs | 21:29 |
| lifeless | such a big antipattern | 21:29 |
| lifeless | not the pluggability | 21:29 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: If I'm reading those dates right Barcelona goes into the weekend? | 21:31 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: my 2016 calendar confirms | 21:31 |
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| clarkb | something to ask claire about I guess | 21:32 |
| clarkb | also might have to discover how hard it is to fly with two 1.5 year olds | 21:32 |
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| mordred | lifeless: which antipattern? | 21:33 |
| mordred | lifeless: (I likely strongluy agree, just want to make sure I'm strongly agreeing on the appropriate thing right now) | 21:33 |
| lifeless | mordred: deployer choices | 21:33 |
| mordred | yes | 21:33 |
| mordred | ZOMG YES | 21:33 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: you're planning on bringnig the twins to barcelona? | 21:34 |
| mordred | lifeless: but but but SNOWFLAKE! | 21:34 |
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| lifeless | the API should be the API | 21:34 |
| lifeless | the deployment can be full of deployer choices | 21:34 |
| lifeless | but not the API | 21:34 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: we'll see but ya I think at some point we have to get on a plane and fly somewhere. 1.5 might be too young | 21:34 |
| lifeless | and the API needs to be designed to be *useful* | 21:34 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: we drove to a city 5 hours away a couple weekends ago and that was plenty | 21:34 |
| mtreinish | mordred: not just snowflake, shiny snowflake :) | 21:34 |
| clarkb | lifeless: don't read the glance image upload spec then | 21:35 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I got yelled at for basically stating ^ | 21:35 |
| clarkb | because deployers need to differentiate and have hot rod systems or something | 21:35 |
| lifeless | clarkb: the new spec? | 21:35 |
| clarkb | lifeless: ya | 21:35 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I read it, I wasn't thrilled | 21:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'll be in the image upload session | 21:36 |
| mordred | to talk about that | 21:36 |
| clarkb | I said we should be designing for an amazing LCD because I already am stuck with the least common denominator experience in all the clouds | 21:36 |
| mordred | but yes. theAPI need to be the API | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a job around using tripleo with docker https://review.openstack.org/238475 | 21:36 |
| clarkb | there is basically a giant provision in the spec to make a bunch of choices that are user exposed | 21:36 |
| clarkb | so that deployers can differentiate | 21:37 |
| mordred | no | 21:37 |
| mordred | that's terrible | 21:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: you might want to read the spec first if you plan to be in that session | 21:37 |
| clarkb | I can find it if ou need a link | 21:37 |
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| mordred | clarkb: well, I intend on working on use cases | 21:38 |
| clarkb | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232371/ | 21:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: one of the use cases is "there should be no user visible deployment differences" | 21:38 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: reading through that: does: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/scenario/test_minimum_basic.py cover what you're looking for in the tempest test? | 21:42 |
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| mtreinish | it uploads an image to glance from a file, boots it, attaches a volume, and logs into it | 21:43 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: ya I think it does | 21:44 |
| clarkb | (volume not necessary but doesn't hurt) | 21:44 |
| mtreinish | I mean we probably should have a lighter weight test in tempest.api.image that just does the upload and boot (with optional ssh) | 21:45 |
| mtreinish | so defcore can pick it up | 21:45 |
| mtreinish | right now we just upload garbage binary data and call that an image | 21:46 |
| clarkb | one reason to have the test is glance could screw up the writing of the bits for example | 21:46 |
| fungi | i really wish we would stop scheduling summits on top of halloween. it's one of my only major religious holidays (along with april fool's day) | 21:46 |
| lifeless | mtreinish: *nice* | 21:46 |
| clarkb | and make images unbootable | 21:46 |
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| mtreinish | which are the tests that some providers started screaming about when they were added defcore | 21:46 |
| clarkb | fungi: did you fill that in on the diversity survery? | 21:46 |
| mtreinish | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/api/image/v2/test_images.py#n37 | 21:47 |
| clarkb | woo new phone finally arrived I will have phone in tokyo | 21:47 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: nice | 21:47 |
| mtreinish | I'm curious to see the 5x, I've read good things about it | 21:47 |
| ddieterl_ | i'm getting the following error when i try to follow the instructions at https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/README.rst | 21:48 |
| ddieterl_ | bash: /opt/stack/new/devstack-gate/devstack-vm-gate.sh: No such file or directory | 21:48 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i should have | 21:48 |
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| ddieterly | this is on the last step when running './safe-devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh | 21:48 |
| fungi | clarkb: though i didn't get the diversity survey because i checked the "i don't want an extra copy of the weekly newsletter" checkbox on my foundation profile | 21:50 |
| ddieterly | looks like the instructions have us clone devstack-gate, but not in /opt/stack/new/d | 21:50 |
| fungi | clarkb: basically, people who don't want an extra copy of the weekly newsletter are not represented in our community diversity statistics | 21:50 |
| lifeless | there was a diversity survey ? | 21:51 |
| mtreinish | fungi: oh, that would explain why I've never heard of the diversty survey | 21:51 |
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| fungi | lifeless: mtreinish: i guess you don't request an extra copy of the newsletter either! | 21:51 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 21:52 |
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| fungi | apparently that foundation profile checkbox is intended to mean "i don't want unsolicited e-mails of any kind from the openstack foundation" (and isn't used at all for the newsletter either, to make things even more strange) | 21:52 |
| mtreinish | jhesketh: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 21:53 |
| lifeless | mtreinish: ok so now I really do want the non-dvsm jobs in there :) | 21:54 |
| jhesketh | mtreinish: woo :-) | 21:54 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 21:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: one of the questions was does your religion etc affect how you can participate in openstack's community and events | 21:57 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, snap | 21:57 |
| fungi | i would have totally used that to object to summits on halloween and april fool's day | 21:58 |
| fungi | i'm unfortunately not getting home until november 1st this year | 21:58 |
| fungi | i was squarely in paris on halloween last year. might have to do some creative flight booking to get home in time to greet trick-or-treaters next year | 21:59 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I am told halloween in tokyo is good fun though | 22:01 |
| fungi | though my calendar says those barcelona dates next year work out to wednesday through sunday. i agree that's a little weird | 22:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yay new phone | 22:01 |
| clarkb | so maybe you can enjoy it :) | 22:01 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: it does mordreds favorite thing. The restore function shows all my apps then when I try to use them "This app is not yet installed" | 22:01 |
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| anteaya | awesome | 22:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ so it lies to make you think you have a configured device well before its done | 22:01 |
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| anteaya | I love that feature | 22:01 |
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| fungi | i'll be on a plane. for halloween. then spending halloween night in a hotel by the airport and driving home the next day | 22:02 |
| anteaya | :( | 22:02 |
| anteaya | I will be home for hallowe'en night | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | lifeless: heh, we've got to fix the schema before we can really support that :) | 22:02 |
| anteaya | but I get no trick or treaters | 22:02 |
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| * asselin will find out if japanese celebrate halloween | 22:03 | |
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| purp | c | 22:03 |
| anteaya | d | 22:03 |
| clarkb | anteaya: the university down the street does in dorm trick or treating which parents like because its out of the rain nad cold and kids can't run in front of cars. But it means I get almost no trick or treaters at my place | 22:03 |
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| anteaya | asselin: nice | 22:04 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yay for a safe environment for the children | 22:04 |
| anteaya | clarkb: :( if you want to greet some of them yourself | 22:04 |
| anteaya | there are no children around here at my end of the road | 22:05 |
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| mtreinish | heh, remembering my college dorm on halloween I have a hard time imagining that being a safe environment for children | 22:05 |
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| anteaya | just cottagers and old people | 22:05 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: ha ha ha | 22:05 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: psu != gatech | 22:06 |
| anteaya | I spent last hallowe'en in a cathedral | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | fungi: that's a very good point | 22:06 |
| anteaya | on mont st. michel | 22:06 |
| anteaya | most tourists don't want to be in a church on hallowe'en so I learned it is a good time to have it to myself | 22:06 |
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| anteaya | or at least part of it | 22:06 |
| zaro | fungi: is there early registeration at conference? i see one for mon, but isn't there one day before? | 22:07 |
| anteaya | zaro: is it usually the day before the conf starts | 22:07 |
| anteaya | zaro: conf starts tuesday | 22:07 |
| fungi | zaro: yeah, monday _is_ early | 22:07 |
| zaro | oops, i stil thought it was M-F. | 22:08 |
| fungi | zaro: in that case, you can either use monday to heckle the board meeting or explore tokyo | 22:08 |
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| clarkb | fungi: in this case its university of portland | 22:09 |
| clarkb | small private jesuit school | 22:09 |
| fungi | oh | 22:09 |
| fungi | sounds plenty bizarre then | 22:09 |
| clarkb | they are super involved in the neighborhood (its one of the perks of living here I guess) | 22:09 |
| clarkb | they hand out free tickets ot shows ans sporting events and so on | 22:09 |
| fungi | i'm not sure i'd trust my kids around those sort of people (academics (if i had children, that is)) | 22:09 |
| anteaya | I hear the jesuits tend to be the hipsters of the religious orders | 22:10 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: rumor has it the dorms there are not unlike other schools | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: depends on the century | 22:10 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: ha ha ha, point | 22:10 |
| fungi | zing! | 22:11 |
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| anteaya | I read the maps for tokyo and learned that taking the limo bus is cheaper than the train and I don't have to walk 2k to my hotel at the end | 22:11 |
| anteaya | so I am taking the limo bus | 22:12 |
| anteaya | as far as I can tell I don't have to book in advance | 22:12 |
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| fungi | you just need to know what ikimasu yo means | 22:12 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: in the past I've normally done the n'ex to tokyo station and then cab it from there to the hotel | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh | 22:13 |
| Clint | mtreinish: you can take the n'ex to shinagawa just as easily | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | Clint: sure for this trip I'm doing that | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | I was just saying in the past when I was at a hotel not near a station | 22:13 |
| * Clint nods. | 22:13 | |
| clarkb | anteaya: ya the bus benefit is direct to htoel option I take it ou are not staying at the conference hotels? | 22:14 |
| fungi | mtreinish: when are you touching down? | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Use null backend when cache is disabled https://review.openstack.org/238704 | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | fungi: sat at 4:25p | 22:14 |
| anteaya | fungi: I will go | 22:14 |
| fungi | ahh, you're beating me there then | 22:14 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: yes | 22:14 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: an hour after me | 22:15 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: I might meet you in customs depending on how long that takes | 22:15 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: yes n'ex and cab is an option too | 22:15 |
| anteaya | but the limo bus does stop at my hotel | 22:16 |
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| anteaya | the mindlessness of that option appeals | 22:16 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: when do you take off/ | 22:16 |
| anteaya | ? | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | tomorow at 1:15p | 22:17 |
| anteaya | nice | 22:17 |
| anteaya | I have to be up at 4 | 22:17 |
| anteaya | to get picked up at 5 | 22:17 |
| anteaya | I have to hurry and get to sleep | 22:17 |
| clarkb | anteaya: my parents recommended the limo bus until they found out I was staying basically at shinagawa station | 22:17 |
| clarkb | anteaya: so I have heard it is a good option | 22:18 |
| anteaya | clarkb: ah | 22:18 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I appreciate your parents' recommendation | 22:18 |
| fungi | yeah, sleeping on top of a train station has its downsides, but hard to beat ease of access! | 22:18 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:18 |
| anteaya | silver lining | 22:18 |
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| * fungi really needs to go get started packing, and also print claire's maps | 22:19 | |
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| anteaya | print the maps! | 22:19 |
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| anteaya | though I didn't, I downloaded the pdf onto my phone | 22:20 |
| anteaya | and got the video on there too | 22:20 |
| anteaya | I also didn't print my schedule | 22:20 |
| anteaya | as I have no idea what I'm doing yet | 22:20 |
| fungi | i am downloading from youtube onto my netbook, but i like paper maps because the battery never runs out on them | 22:20 |
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| anteaya | very true | 22:20 |
| anteaya | I have two phone charger batteries I travel with | 22:21 |
| anteaya | heavy but worth it | 22:21 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: that's just what the paper companies want you to think | 22:22 |
| * fungi secretly invests in weyerhaeuser and tries to undermine the paperless future | 22:22 | |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: if only eink displays were more prevalent | 22:26 |
| tdurakov | hi folks, who could say what version of qemu is used on gates? | 22:26 |
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| clarkb | tdurakov its the latest version for the distro tested on | 22:26 |
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| tdurakov | clarkb, so, what is the bistro then?:) | 22:27 |
| tdurakov | omg | 22:27 |
| tdurakov | distro* | 22:27 |
| clarkb | it depends. precise, trusty, centos7, and fedora 21/22 are all used | 22:28 |
| clarkb | the name is in the test slaves hostname though | 22:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Create default configuration https://review.openstack.org/238699 | 22:30 |
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| mordred | clarkb: ok. I responded ot the image spec | 22:32 |
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| tdurakov | clarkb, thanks, one more question, is it possible to find it out in this, for example http://logs.openstack.org/92/223392/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/728f493/ | 22:33 |
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| mordred | fungi: claire's maps being printed probably not necessary. google maps works great, and it's easy to find the hotel from the train station | 22:34 |
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| clarkb | tdurakov: yes see http://logs.openstack.org/92/223392/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/728f493/logs/dpkg-l.txt.gz | 22:34 |
| fungi | mordred: google maps apparently sent claire to a dumpster in the next building over | 22:35 |
| mordred | fungi: oh - I see, battery | 22:35 |
| mordred | heh | 22:35 |
| mordred | I did not have that experience | 22:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: fungi has a non smart phone | 22:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: fair | 22:35 |
| fungi | also that | 22:35 |
| mordred | well - just for the record ... | 22:35 |
| * fungi doesn't want the pressure of carrying a phone smarter than he is | 22:35 | |
| mordred | all of the "things are crazy" stories are completely blown out of proportion | 22:35 |
| * fungi doesn't need the competition | 22:35 | |
| mordred | I got cash from the ATM at the airport | 22:35 |
| mordred | the subway is easy | 22:35 |
| mordred | the town is easy to navigate | 22:35 |
| fungi | nyc easy? if so, no sweat | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | mordred: +1, I've never had any trouble | 22:36 |
| mordred | fungi: easier | 22:36 |
| tdurakov | clarkb, ack, thanks | 22:36 |
| mordred | fungi: SUPER pleasant | 22:36 |
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| clarkb | mordred: let me put it this way. My parents love traveling to tokyo | 22:36 |
| fungi | fuhgettaboutit | 22:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah | 22:36 |
| mordred | it's the biggest city in the world - it kind of HAS to work or it would implode | 22:36 |
| roxanaghe_ | hi infra people, anyone can tell me if it's possible to change requirements.txt in a stable branch? basically, can I backport a requirements change? | 22:36 |
| bltavares | l | 22:37 |
| fungi | roxanaghe_: you can, though the stable requirements reviewers are insanely strict | 22:37 |
| mordred | roxanaghe_: yah. it'll have to be for a really good reason like "this old version of the requirement is massively insecure" or something | 22:37 |
| fungi | actually, not even insecure. we don't usually bump minimums just because they have security fixes | 22:38 |
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| lifeless | fungi: we should | 22:38 |
| fungi | we might raise maximums | 22:38 |
| roxanaghe_ | fungi, mordred: in my case it's more like a keystone backport really needs an oslo.config backport. is that strict enough? :) | 22:38 |
| lifeless | fungi: roxanaghe_ put it up | 22:39 |
| lifeless | the place to have the discussion is gerrit | 22:39 |
| fungi | roxanaghe_: chances are the oslo.config support needs to be backported to oslo.config's stable branch and then it gets a stable point release, but yes as lifeless says review is the best place to discuss | 22:39 |
| lifeless | fungi: if its backwards compat | 22:40 |
| roxanaghe_ | ok, cool - will submit a review | 22:40 |
| lifeless | fungi: I'd be entirely happy with bumping minimums in l :) | 22:40 |
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| fungi | yeah, stable/liberty perhaps. kilo or earlier less likely | 22:41 |
| mordred | lifeless, fungi: I think careful min bumping for security reasons is totally something we should tlak about / consider | 22:41 |
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| fungi | bumping our requirements minimums every time some dependency releases a security bug fix implies we're actually tracking security fixes in our dependencies. we don't want to give downstream consumers of our packages that misconception | 22:42 |
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| fungi | it's not something we're likely to be reliable about. and security expectations should either be consistently reliable or nonexistent | 22:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: though one problem with google maps in japan is they won't let you cache the map data locally | 22:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: so we will see how well tmobiles roaming service works | 22:44 |
| clarkb | it has worked really well all over the world so far | 22:44 |
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| mordred | fungi: good point | 22:47 |
| mordred | clarkb: data has been working great for Sandy who is on t-mobile | 22:47 |
| lifeless | fungi: Then we shouldn't bump deps for security reasons ever :) | 22:47 |
| clarkb | mordred: that is good to hear | 22:47 |
| lifeless | fungi: I think its reasonable to set expectations clearly | 22:48 |
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| lifeless | fungi: I don't think that that implies rejecting changes that would address a security bug | 22:49 |
| clarkb | mordred: the best part is new 5X supports wifi calling on tmobile out of the box, and wifi calling is free internationally | 22:49 |
| clarkb | mordred: so I don't even need to hangouts hack around things | 22:49 |
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| mordred | why is avahi-daemon a thing? | 22:57 |
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| mordred | clarkb: nice | 22:57 |
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| mordred | TheJulia: around? | 23:00 |
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| mordred | TheJulia: looking at cutting shade 1.0 since ansible 2.0 is releasing soon - you happy with the ironic API and supporting it in a backwards compat manner until the end of recorded time? | 23:01 |
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| ianw | urgh, resizing my trusty image to have enough room to debug the f22 build issues turned into a kernel oopsing, image-corrupting yak shaving adventure | 23:06 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: I'll text you when I land | 23:38 |
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