Thursday, 2016-01-14

mordredfungi: wai00:00
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anteayadougwig: I look forward to a more through discussion when you are full keyboard00:00
fungimordred: is that because you got lost trying to find it and nobody there could help because you didn't know how it was pronunciated?00:00
dougwiganteaya: let's talk tomorrow morning?00:00
fungipronuncimified00:00
anteayadougwig: let's try that yes00:01
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mordredfungi: yup00:01
mordredfungi: that is exactly why00:02
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Improve Range header support  https://review.openstack.org/26723700:03
odyssey4mewhoops - proxy error for gerrit - invaid response00:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Prune old branches when updating cache  https://review.openstack.org/26608600:03
fungimordred: openstack historians tell me pronuncimation of bexar was a terrible plague on the community, so i guess you weren't along in that affliction00:03
fungier, alone00:03
odyssey4melol, I didn't know there was someone in here by that name :p00:03
mordredfungi: it's the openstack shibboleth00:03
fungiindeed!00:04
mordredfungi: if you can pronounce bexar, you're one of us00:04
fungiSamYaple: just to be safe, i added yours to the start of the new batch, so if you get an extra copy at any of your addresses that's why00:04
fungiat least this script is reasonably easy to resume wherever it dies00:05
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fungijeblair: er, i meant 263971 not 26716100:06
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Temporarily make lbaasv2-minimal job non-voting, due to breakage  https://review.openstack.org/26722300:07
anteayadougwig is on a phone in a car so I updated this patch for him as a favour to unbreak lbaas00:07
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anteayaI don't feel right voting on it as it was my patch if anyone has any sympathy for dougwig and his mission00:07
mordredI have no sympathy00:08
anteayathanks, I knew I could count on you00:08
mordredanteaya: so - minimal is bad?00:08
anteayaapparently it is breaking things at the moment00:09
mordredneat00:09
anteayaI'm told this patch is a temporary measure00:09
mordredbest way to solve broken tests - disable them ;)00:09
anteayayeah sigh I know00:09
* mordred is just being me00:09
anteayanot my favourite00:09
mordredpatch looks fine00:09
anteayathanks00:09
openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/requirements: Add oslo.privsep to global-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/26618900:09
anteayahey give me a hard time all you want, I just filter it down to neutron00:09
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anteayahey I'm one of us, my summit registration email arrived00:12
anteayathis is my favourite part of registering: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3jivcmfexctqeh/DiscountCodeImageAustin.jpg?dl=000:13
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nibalizernow the question00:18
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nibalizeris it twitter handle with or without @00:18
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add Date and Message-ID to summit invites  https://review.openstack.org/26724400:20
fungi^ new for 2016!00:20
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jeblairfungi: to be fair, they always had message-ids when i sent them because i sent them through exim :)00:22
jeblairalso, i think, dates00:22
fungiyeah, to get them to come from my silly openstack.org address and have working spf matches i have to send through their mta00:23
fungile sigh00:23
jeblairfungi: isn't there a ?all ?00:23
fungiyeah, but anymore crazy sites like to treat ?all as closer to -all00:24
anteayanibalizer: when I enter a twitter handle I did so sans @00:24
jeblairfungi: change it to +all00:24
anteayanibalizer: I didn't bother with a twitter handle this time00:24
fungiand i;m doing what i can to get as many of these as possible delivered00:24
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jeblairfungi: anyway, i mean, we have a more or less infinite amount of openstack.org addresses that fall into the ?all category.00:25
fungii could set exim up as an authenticated forwarder to get the "best" of both worlds i guess00:25
nibalizeranteaya: do you have a twitter?00:26
fungibut yeah, when these don't get to people i end up getting even more e-mails than usual from people wanting to know where their invite is00:26
jeblairprobably many thousands of lists.o.o addresses which work...00:26
fungithose are inevitable anyway, but the fewer the better00:26
anteayanibalizer: I do, I haven't felt like using it in about 2 years00:28
anteayaseems all it is useful for these days is to hurt other people00:28
anteayaI have no interest00:28
fungii've seen twitter before00:28
fungii wasn't terribly impressed00:29
greghaynesInfra-ites - going to do a dib release to get a dib fix out (pruning old branches in dib cache). doing it now even though it is EOD so images will be built with new release00:29
greghaynesjust a PSA00:29
fungigreghaynes: thank you for your service to the public00:30
greghaynesO700:30
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anteayafungi: it used to be sort of okay00:30
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anteayanow it is paint companies and dog food companies00:30
openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/log_processor: Add support for per-file gear precedence  https://review.openstack.org/25319700:30
openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/log_processor: Let the workers shut down gracefully  https://review.openstack.org/25920000:30
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gtmanfredis it possible to retrigger the testing suite on something in gerrit?00:36
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nibalizeryes you can leave a comment 'recheck' on the patch00:37
gtmanfredcool, thanks00:38
jlvillalSo who is responsible for this image?  https://www.openstack.org/themes/openstack/static/images/tokyo/about-stats-legend.svg00:38
jlvillalI think it should be EUROPE and not EURPOE :)00:38
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gtmanfredahh, the lost continent of EURPOE00:39
jlvillal:D00:40
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fungijlvillal: apparently a regression or incomplete fix for bug 150395200:43
openstackbug 1503952 in openstack-org ""About the summit" page reports visitor numbers from EURPOE" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150395200:43
jlvillalfungi: Ah, thanks.00:43
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb: Only expire open reviews  https://review.openstack.org/26725000:51
fungidougwig: i missed something apparently. where was dib coming into play with the neutron job failure?00:53
fungijust making sure nothing related to greghaynes new dib release00:53
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dougwigfungi: Octavia uses it to build its service Vm images.  Haven't had time to debug why the build broke, but it's in dib for us.00:54
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fungidougwig: ahh, and timing-wise it looks like that started at least slightly before the dib release would have been tagged anyway00:55
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craigeIs it possible to add another reviewer in gertty?00:56
* craige has not been able to find a method thus far.00:56
fungicraige: probably not an existing feature since it's a somewhat silly part of the gerrit webui00:57
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fungimost of us ignore when people arbitrarily add us as reviewers on a change because we really have no other option volume-wise00:57
craigeThat makes sense, thanks fungi00:57
craigeI'm adding a reviewer in this case as only they can answer te question someone has asked.00:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Allow worker to make use of subunit2sql targets  https://review.openstack.org/24439901:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Install os-performance-tools  https://review.openstack.org/24491601:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Temporarily make lbaasv2-minimal job non-voting, due to breakage  https://review.openstack.org/26722301:02
fungiusually best to try and hunt them down in irc or something since it's likely they won't notice just being added as a reviewer01:02
nibalizeryep01:04
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jesusauruscan I get some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/259200 ? (it teaches the log_processor workers to gracefully shutdown)01:07
nibalizeri get a 503 from gerrit?01:09
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nibalizerand now it works...01:11
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greghaynesdougwig: got a link to the failure?01:27
greghaynesdougwig: It is EODish for me but I can try and have a look01:27
dougwiggreghaynes: on my phone, but one sec01:28
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dougwiggreghaynes: http://logs.openstack.org/84/256184/5/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-minimal/deb7457/01:29
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dougwigCheck devstacklog.txt01:29
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greghaynesdougwig: oh, hrm. Do you know how long that has been failing?01:33
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jeblaircraige: yeah, no existing feature (hasn't been on my list for reason fungi mentioned) but would accept patch if offered01:35
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anteayajesusaurus: have you tested out 259200 anywhere or can you?01:37
dougwiggreghaynes: started this afternoon.01:37
greghaynesdougwig: ok, so I suspect http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/diskimage-builder/commit/?id=176ae7bff61818079cb21ce9c999978ac7fcea2601:37
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greghaynesdougwig: I wonder if we broke some of the pkg-map logic with that01:38
anteayafungi: I will point out I find it odd the merge comment is not the last automated comment on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267223/01:39
gtmanfredis there something going on with the functional tests for shade right now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266532/5 they are failing, but the only thing I changed between 4 and 5 is adding a unittest, which are all passing...01:40
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dougwiggreghaynes: will peek in a few hours.  On my phone at dinner.  :)01:41
dougwiggreghaynes: thanks for looking into it.01:41
anteayaI have to change computers to do something will be back in a bit (please pray for me that this works this time and doesn't take long)01:41
greghaynesdougwig: ya, basically the package-map is not returning any packages for grub-pc, which is really odd because our CI tests that01:42
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greghaynesdougwig: oh man, ya, it is totally broke01:43
jesusaurusanteaya: i have done some very minimal testing locally, is there another test case you would like me to add?01:45
Shrewsgtmanfred: looks like something has broken the gate. will look at it in the morning.01:46
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craigeThanks jeblair. Was initially just making sure I wasn't missing something obvious :-)01:49
gtmanfredShrews: cool, thanks01:49
greghaynesdougwig: It isnt anything specific to you all, FYI.01:49
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dougwiggreghaynes: phew, sort of. Anything I can do to help fix?01:50
greghaynesdougwig: Not that I know of, just trying to bisect it now01:50
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openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed openstack/requirements: Add "positional" package to g-r  https://review.openstack.org/26727001:59
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fill out bootloader pkg-map  https://review.openstack.org/26727102:02
greghaynesdougwig: ^02:02
greghaynesSpamapS: ianw ^ dib is pretty totally broken until ^ merges02:02
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add py27 py34 docs check for kolla project  https://review.openstack.org/26667402:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Handle markers to support sdist on pip < 6  https://review.openstack.org/25328902:29
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anteayajesusaurus: none that I can think of I was just curious02:47
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anteayadougwig greghaynes so we have concluded that the fault is not with the lbaas test that was made non-voting, after all?02:48
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anteayain other news, Remove required access permission to list account emails https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/73639/ was merged upstream02:51
anteayafungi zaro ^^02:51
anteayayay!02:51
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greghaynesanteaya: yep, it is a dib fail02:58
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fill out bootloader pkg-map  https://review.openstack.org/26727103:19
ianwgreghaynes: ^ just fixed up the json, still parsing it a bit03:19
greghaynesTy03:20
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ianwi mean parsing the change ,not the json :)03:21
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anteayagreghaynes: okay thanks03:45
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nibalizeromfra cloud is out of mysql connections again :(03:48
anteaya:(03:49
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nibalizerthe interesting thing is that we have Max_used_connections     | 15203:53
anteayainteresting03:53
nibalizerand max_connections = 1024 in the config file03:53
anteayahmmmm03:53
nibalizerso its like mysql did not pick up the configuration changes we made03:53
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anteayahow is mysql supposed to pick up those configuration changes?03:54
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nibalizerprobably a restart03:56
* nibalizer -> dinner03:56
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anteayaenjoy dinner03:58
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fill out bootloader pkg-map  https://review.openstack.org/26727104:32
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dougwigi like the new zuul ui.04:35
openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729604:36
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openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed openstack/requirements: Add "positional" package to g-r  https://review.openstack.org/26727004:40
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jheskethlifeless: ping05:03
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729605:23
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Print unparsable file in pkg-map  https://review.openstack.org/26730505:24
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greghaynesianw: protip - dib supports python tests in elements05:33
greghaynesianw: see the svc-map element05:34
greghaynesianw: it can make debugging python like that a TON easier05:34
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lifelessjhesketh: gnip05:45
jheskethlifeless: got a moment to discuss pyconau2016?05:45
lifelessjhesketh: in about 2005:45
jheskethlifeless: sure, no hurry. Ping me when is good05:46
lifelessroger wilco05:46
eliqiaohello, I get gate failed always (jenkins checks passed, but gate checks failed), can anyone here help to take a look ? patch link is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262942/05:47
openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729605:50
openstackgerritdharmendra kushwaha proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Pass environment variables of proxy to tox  https://review.openstack.org/26731005:50
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729605:57
clarkbeliqiao: you need to figure out why http://logs.openstack.org/42/262942/4/gate/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api/336762a/console.html#_2016-01-12_17_36_50_790 happens06:00
eliqiaoclarkb: okay, let me check06:00
openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729606:02
eliqiaoclarkb: but I don't understand why Jenkins check passed see http://logs.openstack.org/42/262942/4/check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api/8f50e00/console.html#_2016-01-12_15_49_44_27906:02
openstackgerritfumihiko kakuma proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use constraints based job to the gate of ofagent  https://review.openstack.org/26198206:02
nibalizercrinkle: i'd like to restart mysql to pick up the connection # config change06:02
clarkbeliqiao: I dont either, this is a question for magnum not infra06:02
clarkbeliqiao: the test is failing because magnum returns the wrong return code06:02
eliqiaoclarkb: okay, some magic(hack) in code. I don't like that.06:03
greghaynesnibalizer: 'set global max_connections = N'06:03
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greghaynesnibalizer: what is the max connections btw?06:04
eliqiaoclarkb: yes, I get why 'gate/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api' failed, but not 'check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api'. I will look into magnum's code.06:04
eliqiaoit's rat.06:04
nibalizergreghaynes: its set to 1024 in the config file but mysql reports it as 15206:04
greghaynesnibalizer: ah, so it was set super low06:04
nibalizerya06:04
nibalizerwas the default06:04
greghaynesnibalizer: Anyhow, you can do that set command in mysql without a restart06:04
eliqiaoclarkb: Thanks for looking into this.06:04
nibalizergreghaynes: ok i will do this thing06:05
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openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/requirements: Add oslo.privsep to global-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/26618906:06
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openstackgerritfumihiko kakuma proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run the ofagent ci job in the periodic-qa queue  https://review.openstack.org/26732306:10
crinklenibalizer: yeah i think we found out last week that the mysql puppet module doesn't restart the server by default on config changes06:11
eliqiaohi clarkb, I get, the reason is not from that skipped case. Failure is due to timeout06:11
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump versions for each keystone library  https://review.openstack.org/26662906:12
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clarkbah its taking over two hours06:15
clarkbyou can look at the dstat logs to see what performance was like06:15
clarkbservice logs can also point out lost time if something was slow06:17
eliqiaoclarkb: compared with the 'check' pipe line, figure out that the 'gate' pipe line is using a bad performance 'virtual machine', so 2 hour for gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api is not enough.06:18
eliqiaoif you compare gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-k8s of 'check' and 'gate' pipe line. They are '1h 10m 14s' and '1h 39m 57s'06:19
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eliqiaoso for gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api ('check' pipe line is 1h 21m 27s), it failed as time out.06:20
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clarkbgate and check use the same mix of VMs06:20
clarkbso its probably not a gate vs check thing06:20
clarkbthere is no screen dstat on that job but there is the dstat csv06:21
eliqiaoclarkb: how about make gate check time out logger than 2 hour (for testing)06:22
clarkbI would look to seeif swapping is happening, if iowait is high, or cpu is being hit harder06:22
clarkbeliqiao: we prefer to keep gate time to about an hour06:22
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729606:24
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ianwgreghaynes: cool, well i think that pkg-map could do with some help, i might take a look06:26
ianwby help, i mean some improvements to give better output06:27
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project: openstack/python-stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729606:46
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nibalizer max_connections          | 102406:56
nibalizerthanks greghaynes crinkle06:56
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lifelessjhesketh: pong06:59
jheskethlifeless: pm?06:59
lifeless200007:00
lifelessso yes07:00
lifeless:)07:00
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/26569707:05
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729607:46
ttxfungi: including extra-atcs in projects.yaml doesn't sound completely crazy to me07:47
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/requirements: Add missing license information  https://review.openstack.org/26475407:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: [rally] Skip long-running jobs when it possible  https://review.openstack.org/26587608:49
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openstackgerritHideki Saito proposed openstack-infra/shade: Support neutron subnets without gateway IPs  https://review.openstack.org/26740508:50
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openstackgerritHideki Saito proposed openstack-infra/shade: Support neutron subnets without gateway IPs  https://review.openstack.org/26740509:01
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openstackgerritHideki Saito proposed openstack-infra/shade: Support neutron subnets without gateway IPs  https://review.openstack.org/26740509:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting Django 1.9 test to Horizon  https://review.openstack.org/26704309:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: set keystone's legacy_drivers job to voting  https://review.openstack.org/26658209:07
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openstackgerritHideki Saito proposed openstack-infra/shade: Support neutron subnets without gateway IPs  https://review.openstack.org/26740509:18
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project stetho  https://review.openstack.org/26729609:23
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Add bifrost manifest  https://review.openstack.org/23175709:37
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set Ceilometer backend to Gnocchi in integration test  https://review.openstack.org/26332509:40
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Add global vars for bifrost in useast  https://review.openstack.org/26743809:53
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create puppet-ec2api repository  https://review.openstack.org/25185710:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Support project templates  https://review.openstack.org/26064910:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Refactor pipeline loading  https://review.openstack.org/26066210:28
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andreafhi - I'm looking for a second reviewer on this small puppet patch for log processor: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266982/10:31
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andreafsecond core reviewer I mean10:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Alter config format to lists of dictionaries  https://review.openstack.org/26072710:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Remove boilerplate zuul.conf from test fixtures  https://review.openstack.org/26074910:32
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openstackgerritJedrzej Nowak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project solar-resources  https://review.openstack.org/26745310:41
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acabotI'm looking for a way to update the description on github for a project hosted on the openstack/11:07
acabotis there a doc somewhere ?11:08
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openstackgerritsonu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add bandit gate and job for designate  https://review.openstack.org/26667111:10
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/26569711:10
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openstackgerritSlava Tabolin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add project networking-mirantis-dvs  https://review.openstack.org/26633111:12
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openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting dj1.9 test to django-openstack-auth  https://review.openstack.org/26687811:38
openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm check and gate to freeze* repos  https://review.openstack.org/26748511:38
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Notifications: Don't change the resource_id on POST unnecessarily  https://review.openstack.org/26748611:39
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openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm check and gate to freeze* repos  https://review.openstack.org/26748511:39
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openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm check and gate to freeze* repos  https://review.openstack.org/26748511:44
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openstackgerritDaniel Izquierdo proposed openstack-infra/activity-board: OpenStack community activity report Q4, 2015  https://review.openstack.org/26749812:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/activity-board: OpenStack community activity report Q4, 2015  https://review.openstack.org/26749812:12
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openstackgerritHarshada Mangesh Kakad proposed openstack/requirements: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess  https://review.openstack.org/26750912:28
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openstackgerritJedrzej Nowak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project solar-resources  https://review.openstack.org/26745312:32
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/project-config: remove nova-commit-message job  https://review.openstack.org/25956912:57
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openstackgerritZara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Add email templates for comments  https://review.openstack.org/26753413:01
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betherlyhi all! is anyone around to help with the cookiecutter part of setting up a new project?13:03
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clarkbusually best to just ask the question and if people are able they can help13:06
clarkbacabot: I believe that updating the github description js manual now becaise we had to put our github api calls on a diet13:07
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acabotclarkb: thx so do I need to send an email to the mailing list with the updated description ?13:08
clarkbno, I would update the old location and note that whoever approves it should also update github, let me find the file path13:08
betherlyso i have brought down the repository locally and then ran the pip install cookiecutter but never got as far as it prompting me for different settings. am i missing a step? error: could not create '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/chardet': Permission denied13:09
clarkbacabot: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/projects.yaml push a change to update there and note that github will need manual update13:09
acabotclarkb : thx a lot13:10
clarkbbetherly: sounds like it is attempting to install globally but you dont have root permissions13:10
clarkbbetherly: you should likely install to a virtualenv to avoid thia13:10
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betherlyclarkb: as im working on a front end UI i was just going to do it direct on my mac rather than a virtual box but if i understand correctly i will need to set the repo up in a virtual box to run the cookiecutter?13:13
betherlyor is it worth me running it globally with sudo without it screwing up other things locally?13:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-log_processor: Allow for python-daemon already defined  https://review.openstack.org/26698213:14
clarkbnot virtualbox, virtualenv it is a way to install python packages to a non root location without root privileges13:14
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betherlyclarkb: sorry, still getting used to python things :)13:15
openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm check and gate to freeze* repos  https://review.openstack.org/26748513:16
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openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm check and gate to freeze* repos  https://review.openstack.org/26748513:17
openstackgerritAntoine Cabot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Watcher projects descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/26754913:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Fix Project Group Edit  https://review.openstack.org/26593513:18
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openstackgerritAntoine Cabot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Watcher projects descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/26754913:19
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openstackgerritAntoine Cabot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Watcher projects descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/26754913:20
yfriedShrews: ping re shade13:20
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openstackgerritLukasz Oles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs-on-rtfd hook for solar project  https://review.openstack.org/26755813:28
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openstackgerritVitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Skip tempest tests to unlock saharaclient gate  https://review.openstack.org/26756113:30
openstackgerritVitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Skip one test to unlock saharaclient gate  https://review.openstack.org/26756113:31
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tdurakovclarkb, hi, are you around?13:47
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Shrewsyfried: morning13:55
yfriedShrews: hi, I'm looking into ansible os_network module that uses shade and I see shade doesn't allow provider network details13:56
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Shrewsyfried: please define "provider network details"13:57
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yfriedShrews: provider_network_type=vlan/vxlan/flat provider_physical_network=physnet67 etc...13:59
Shrewsyfried: how are those specified in the neutron api?14:00
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yfriedShrews: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#createProviderNetwork14:03
Shrewsyfried: fyi, entirely possible we are missing options. we develop based off what is documented (http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html#createNetwork). if those docs are (or were) out of date or incomplete, then so is our api14:03
Shrewsyfried: ah, an extension. yeah, we haven't bothered with that14:04
yfriedShrews: it's pretty important14:04
mordredShrews: I believe it's a 'standard' extension14:04
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Shrewsyfried: well, contributions are happily accepted  :)14:04
mordredShrews: as opposed to a real extension14:04
mordredbecause of the plugin obsession14:04
yfriedShrews: adding **kwargs to the function would solve it on shade's end and move the issue to ansible.14:05
mordredyeah - it seems like creating and updating a network can take an almost endless set of attributes14:06
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mordredI'm not sure the 'best' way to expose that on the ansible side14:06
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mordredbut I think 'router:external' is a similar attribute, yeah?14:06
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* mordred loves reading neutron docs14:08
Shrewswe map router:external to just 'external' for simplicity. **kwargs is probably a fine way for handling the others14:08
mordredSamYaple: when you awaken ... the docs for router:external say:14:08
mordredrouter:external (Optional)plainxsd:bool14:08
mordredIndicates whether this network is externally accessible.14:08
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mordredwhich we've learned from previous conversation is actually _not_ what router:external means14:08
mordredbut now I feel less silly for having thought that since it's in the docs :)14:09
mordredShrews: how should we handle those kwargs ansible-side - properties dict?14:09
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mordredShrews: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html#createNetwork seem to be the non-extension attributes14:10
mordredShrews: and we have all of them14:10
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yfriedmordred: Shrews: I wonder if this discussion should be here on in #ansible-devel14:11
Shrewsmordred: yeah, i developed off the non-extension docs14:11
Shrewsmordred: i'm not sure the best way to handle it in the module. maybe just a new 'provider' dict?14:12
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mordredShrews: maybe? although then we'd need to do this for all the other extensions too14:14
mordred(I say that - this seems to be the only extension to the network object)14:14
mordredhrm. also - availability_zones is weird - it shows up in the provider_network extension docs, but it's not related to that extension I don't htink14:16
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Shrewswell, there seems to be 'provider', 'multi-provider', and 'vlan' extensions14:17
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yfriedShrews: so, is it an issue of simple **kwargs, or are you looking for something more complicated?14:22
Shrewsyfried: so, there is an acknowledged gap there. i think we need some time to consider this. we don't have any people asking for this urgently14:22
yfriedShrews: my problem is that old quantum_network modules are buggy, and the new os_network doesn't suit my needs14:24
yfriedShrews: I can't fix the old modules bc they are deprecated and the new modules bc they use shade14:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Identity API v3 only non-voting job in Tempest  https://review.openstack.org/26717114:44
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openstackgerritManuel Desbonnet proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Do not run skip-if on merge commits  https://review.openstack.org/26761914:49
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Log 'Received unrecognized event type' as warning  https://review.openstack.org/26699814:53
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savihouhowdy, any one struggled with apscheduler 3.0 and nodepool ?14:57
mordredyfried: yeah, I tink we want to fix this - but would like to consider for a bit (hopefully with slightly more coffee) the ui design around how we handle these sometimes-existing extension driven attributes. in other places in shade we work to hide cloud implementation details and provide a consistent user experience14:58
mordredyfried: I can think of a few different ways we could approach this here - mainly just want to mull for a little bit14:58
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pabelangerjeblair: interesting comments about zuul ansible and Apache 2.0 and GPL2.0.  Need to see what that means to packaging, if anything14:59
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mordredpabelanger: the approach to consuming ansible from zuul v3 may be changing, which may change that15:02
pabelangermordred: Oh?15:02
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mordredpabelanger: turns out using the python API isn't really a thing that will work for us, so it's most likely going to be spawning a subprocess15:03
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pabelangermordred: Ah, okay. I can see that15:03
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fungiwhich also neatly solves the potential license incompatibilities15:04
openstackgerritZara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make task project titles link to projects  https://review.openstack.org/26763315:04
pabelangeryup15:04
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: [WIP] Uncap sqlalchemy  https://review.openstack.org/26763615:06
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Prepare neutron-lib for pypi releases  https://review.openstack.org/26715615:11
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AJaegerdougwig: you did not fix the build failure, see my inline comment ^15:12
dougwigAJaeger: just saw that.  tweaking now.15:12
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dougwigAJaeger: ty15:12
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annegentleAJaeger: fungi:, have a minute to talk about http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/doc-publishing.html?15:15
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AJaegerannegentle: I'm on my way out right now...15:16
annegentleAJaeger: ok no worries just wanted to talk more about it, jhesketh said he didn't think it completely relied on the logs in swift being done.15:16
annegentleso poking into it again15:17
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AJaegerannegentle: Discuss without me - I'll read backscroll later, I have little input in this15:18
annegentleAJaeger: ok15:18
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SamYaplefungi: thanks i got it15:18
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rajinirasselin: Which openstack project should I submit doc update patchset to? May be you mentioned, but I15:19
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annegentlerajinir: I can help, what's the page you want to update15:19
asselinrajinir, doc update for what?15:19
rajinirasselin: The thirparty CI issues15:19
SamYaplemordred: yea that should really be like router:overlay True/False or something. im not sure how to solve that because the _majority_ of what i use the "external" router for is not publically accessible15:19
asselinrajinir, which thirdparty ci issues?15:20
SamYaplei suppose it works if you view "externally" as external to the openstack environment _not_ in the public ip range15:20
rajinirasselin; Some issues I encountered. More like tips to debug15:20
asselinrajinir, perhaps an example issue would help15:20
mordredSamYaple: but it's still not true15:20
rajinirAsselin: There might be one update to this doc. The port number of hte gearman https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/master/contrib15:20
mordredSamYaple: becuase I _do_ think of "public/external" as external to the cloud in question15:21
mordredSamYaple: but that's still not what router:external means15:21
rajinirasselin: The 8080 didn't work for the Gearman, 4730 is the right port number15:21
mordredSamYaple: router:external apparently means "you can attach a router to this network to get floating ips" - and it also implies that the network will then become visible to other tenants15:21
mordredSamYaple: which is not what that documentation line communicates at all15:21
mordredSamYaple: it just so happens that in _most_ public clouds "you can attach a router to this network to get floating ips" _also_ means "this network is a public network"15:22
asselinrajinir, where does 8080 come from? is that the default?15:22
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mordredSamYaple: (internap is the exception to this rule, btw)15:22
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mordredSamYaple: or, rather, internap has public networks that are not marked router:external because they are per-tenant public subnets, so setting router:external breaks things15:22
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asselinrajinir, but to answer your question, you should update it in that repo. See here for details: https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.rst15:23
rajinirasselin: Not sure where it comes from, but Click "Test Connection" returns sucess, only that the jobs were not being triggered until I changed the port to 473015:23
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asselinrajinir, yeah, I agree confirming the port to 4730 would be helpful15:24
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rajinirasselin: thanks, will submit a patchet15:25
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asselinrajinir, if you don't mind, please update this file instead: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/doc/source/third_party_ci.rst15:26
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rajinirasselin: ok sure. thanks15:27
SamYaplemordred: fair enough. but i thought of "external" as networks that are not in Openstack control. but again, thats not entirely correct.15:27
asselinrajinir, that readme.md is going away. New docs are now available here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/openstackci/15:27
SamYaplemordred: dont worry there is this new shade projects thats going to fix all that. just sit back and wait!15:27
rajinirasselin: got it15:27
openstackgerritManuel Desbonnet proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Do not run skip-if on merge commits  https://review.openstack.org/26761915:28
asselinanyone care to +A this simple link update to system-config? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265481/15:28
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asselinrajinir, your review to here would be appreciated: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265483/115:29
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mordredSamYaple: :)15:29
mordredSamYaple: interesting - I hadn't thought of that meaning of external15:29
mordredSamYaple: perhaps "handles:northbound" is a flag we should add15:29
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mordredor, just, "northbound"15:30
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SamYaplei vote "superman". as in up-up-and-away15:30
SamYapleso we can make up new meanings depending on who we are talking to15:30
SamYapleits perfect!15:30
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rajinirasselin: done15:31
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fungiannegentle: AJaeger: yeah, we decided at the last summit that the parts of the swift log serving that needed to be figured out were well behind us and so we should be able to push forward with the docs publication tooling, providing there are volunteers to work on implementation15:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Notifications: Don't change the resource_id on POST unnecessarily  https://review.openstack.org/26748615:33
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clarkbtdurakov: I am now15:34
SamYaplemordred: yea sitting on it i like "northbound". Anything that conveys "leaving openstack managed network" works for me. then the narative becomes "floating ips come from externally managed networks"15:34
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Add more detail to event messages  https://review.openstack.org/26765115:35
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tdurakovclarkb, filed bug for the case we were talking about yesterday: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/1386215:35
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mordredSamYaple: yah. the things I generall want to discover about a cloud are "which network leaves the cloud" and "can I attach vms to it or do I need to attach a router and get a floating ip"15:36
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annegentlefungi: excellent, I think jhesketh is interesting but will have to check his actual availability15:37
pabelangermordred: odyssey4me: yolanda: new version of ansible-lint was release to fix 2.0 breakage. Let the unpinning begin15:37
annegentlefungi: If he can't do it I'll keep checking around15:37
yolandapabelanger, that was fast15:37
yolandais that ok to revert my change?15:37
pabelangeryolanda: there was an open review, just needed minor clean up. I pinged maintainer, and he was happy to merge and release15:37
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yolandanice15:38
yolandalet me propose the change15:38
odyssey4mepabelanger ah, very nice - well done!15:38
mordredpabelanger: WOOT!15:38
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pabelangerom nom nom15:39
asselinmordred, +A please 1 line change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265481/15:40
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Temporarily pin to ansible==1.9.4"  https://review.openstack.org/26765215:40
yolandapabelanger, proposed ^15:40
mordredasselin: done15:40
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Create bridge if it doesn't exist  https://review.openstack.org/26765315:41
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clarkbtdurakov: thanks15:41
asselinthis patch can also use some reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252768/15:41
pabelangeryolanda: Ya, we should really get rid of that JJB macro too.   I only think 1 project uses it now15:42
fungiannegentle: yep, might also see if AJaeger is interested in helping with the implementation, though i know he's already quite busy too15:42
yolandapabelanger, the revert removes the macro as well15:42
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annegentlefungi: good thinking. I'd like to find someone in the next month or so before release urgency comes down15:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Add email templates for comments  https://review.openstack.org/26753415:44
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annegentlefungi: ok, I've sent a note to jhesketh also15:44
annegentlethanks!15:45
pabelangeryolanda: Sorry, was refering to gate-*-ansible-lint.  We've migrated things into a pep8 job IIRC15:45
pabelangeryolanda: ACtually, we me double check that15:45
yolandapabelanger, i noticed the lint error, because i was using that on ansible-puppet, it failed for me15:45
pabelangerYa, we have gate-*-tox-ansible-lint jobs now15:45
pabelangereither way, I can dig deeper15:45
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add py27 py34 docs check for kolla project  https://review.openstack.org/26667415:46
anteayadougwig: hey there, what kind of timing do you have for our meta-neutron gate jobs talk? I have to run an errand in about 90 minutes and since i have to walk 10k to do it I will be several hours15:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Update third party docs link to published docs.  https://review.openstack.org/26548115:47
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yolandafungi, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267652 as well, so we revert ansible-lint pin?15:49
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fungiyolanda: wow, such a quick resolution!15:50
yolandaas easy as to click a button :)15:51
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fungiyolanda: well, i meant quick on the part of the ansible-lint devs15:52
fungifixed by the next day15:52
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yolandaah that comment makes more sense :)15:53
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add neutron-ml2-generic-switch project  https://review.openstack.org/26766415:58
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jeblairpabelanger, mordred, fungi: i agree the licensing situation is probably a little more clear with the subprocess model -- particularly if the ansible folks have said that they feel that the gpl stops at their program boundary.  however, even if we did directly import ansible, i don't think it should have made too much trouble for distro packaging -- i think the combined work would have been considered to be distributed under the terms of the16:01
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jeblairpabelanger, mordred, fungi: i will note it's still in requirements, so if you do a 'py2exe' or something, you'll get a binary with ansible in it, so it's still worth being cognizant of that.16:01
mordredjeblair: yah. agree (although you cut off at "under the terms of the")16:01
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jeblairoh, irssi doesn't split? hrm.16:02
jeblair gpl.  it's really only a problem if you're doing proprietary stuff.16:02
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jeblairof course, there's a perl script for that.16:02
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nibalizerjeblair: yep16:03
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Define criteria for skipping multinode-live-migration  https://review.openstack.org/26766916:04
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mroddenansible's python api leaves a lot to be desired regardless.16:05
fungijeblair: yeah, i wouldn't have been sweating it16:06
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fungibut we probably would have needed to clarify with ansible people just to be on the safe side16:06
clarkbjeblair weechat just does it >_>16:06
tdurakovfolks, could you please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267669/ got concerns whether it will work or not16:06
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yolandagreghaynes, around?16:07
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jeblairclarkb: yeah, but it doesn't do otr :(16:08
clarkbI thought the irssi otr plugin worked in irssi16:09
clarkbbut maybe that stopped being true16:09
Clintthe irssi otr plugin does work in irssi16:09
Clintfsvo work16:09
jeblairit stopped working in weechat a few years ago though16:09
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jeblairoh it's even already installed in /usr/share/irssi/scripts/splitlong.pl16:10
fungijust need to add it to your loadlist16:10
fungii guess16:10
fungibeen a while since i was an irssi user so i'm beginning to forget how its plugin configuration worked16:11
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Add missing entry for localhost  https://review.openstack.org/26767216:11
betherlynow that i have installed cookiecutter locally in a virtualenv im getting the following error when trying to do a git review16:11
betherly ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master (no common ancestry)16:11
betherlyerror: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://bethelwell@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/ironic-ui.git'16:11
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betherlycookiecutter created a new folder within my git setup and .git files within it16:12
mordredclarkb, jeblair: https://github.com/mmb/weechat-otr ?16:13
jeblairmordred: otr me and we'll see :)16:13
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clarkbbetherly it is saying the code currently in gerrit and ehat you have locally dont have common parents so it rejects16:15
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clarkbbetherly: you can copy the content of the cookiecutter output into the existing repo and commit and push from there16:15
clarkbthis is likely an issue with us helpfully creating a .gitreview for you and cookiecutter makign a new repo from.scratch16:16
betherlyminus the .git files? can i use the existing .gitreview stuff already set up in the parent folder?16:16
jeblairscript loaded -- it automatically adds ellipses16:16
jeblairsort of like this example: i agree the licensing situation is probably a little more clear with the subprocess model -- particularly if the ansible folks have said that they feel that the gpl  stops at their program boundary.  however, even if we did directly import ansible, i don't think it should have made too much trouble for distro packaging -- i think the combined work would have  ben considhered to be distributed under the terms ...16:16
jeblair... of the gpl.  it's really only a problem if you're doing proprietary stuff.16:16
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clarkbbetherly: ya dont delete the existing .git or .gitreview16:17
dougwiganteaya: coordinating with HenryG here at the lbaas meetup right now.  after your errand would work well, if that works for you?16:17
openstackgerritMichael Jeanson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add matrixOptions to throttle properties module  https://review.openstack.org/24169916:17
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betherlyclarkb: cool yep :) just wanted to be sure. thanks so much for all your help with this16:19
yolandanibalizer, crinkle, how did you generate the certs for infra-cloud in west? are they self-signed ones?16:20
anteayadougwig: okay it will be firmly in the not morning territory then16:20
anteayadougwig: I will ping16:20
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nibalizeryolanda: yes16:21
yolandaok i'm doing the same for east now16:21
nibalizerwe could/should move to a real CA16:21
jeblairmordred: i am OTRing with you!16:21
nibalizerbut haven't done that16:21
nibalizerinfra-root how /do/ we get proper ssl certs?16:22
jeblairnibalizer: how many do we need?16:22
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jeblairlike just one for keystone, or one each for keystone and horizon, or....?16:23
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nibalizerjeblair: i'm not really sure, I think we need one per service16:24
mordredjeblair: we need one each for keystone and horizon and whatnot16:24
yolandajeblair i see: keystone, glance, neutron, nova16:24
yolandaper two regions16:24
nibalizerI'm more asking if we made an https://someapp.o.o how would I get the cert16:24
mordredjeblair: at least until we deploy notmorgan's haproxy sub-url magic16:24
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yolandawe haven't configured horizon for the infra-cloud16:25
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Prepare neutron-lib for pypi releases  https://review.openstack.org/26715616:26
notmorganmordred: we could deploy that with current master and a couple days to finish the l7 routing config16:26
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jeblairnibalizer: these days we're deferring to fungi for administrative ease :)16:26
jeblairnibalizer: though when i was doing them i just got them from namecheap and expensed them16:27
notmorganWhether that is nginx or haproxy or something else (the other lua stuff is something else)16:27
nibalizerjeblair: heh fair enough16:27
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mordrednotmorgan: yah - well, we're currently not running master yet - so it might be a bit16:27
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jeblairmordred: so without notmorgan's stuff, we need a lot of certs?  i was going to say that sounds like a missed opportunity, but it sounds like notmorgan is correcting that :)16:28
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notmorganYeah. Because of nova fixes needed.16:28
jeblairmordred, nibalizer: we're the only customer, maybe we should run our own ca for this?16:28
notmorganjeblair: exactly ;) trying tomake it much better! ;)16:28
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nibalizerjeblair: right now we just have a self-signed cert and I copy the ca file around16:28
nibalizerso we're kindof already there16:28
jeblairnibalizer: ya, so we could copy that to nodepool.o.o16:29
nibalizeropenstack commands and os-c-c take a 'cafile' path16:29
jeblairand (mumble mumble install ca mumble...)16:29
nibalizerthis is why I haven't worried about this yet16:29
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yolandawe can go with self-signed for the moment16:30
funginibalizer: currently i buy them from namecheap.com and then expense it to the foundation, though i've been planning to look into switching to startssl.com instead since they have a more attractive billing model with a lot more flexibility16:30
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: refactor script for commenting on launchpad bugs prior to move to project-config  https://review.openstack.org/26716216:30
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: default to sending mail directly via lists.openstack.org  https://review.openstack.org/26716616:31
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: pick a different previous version if the current version exists  https://review.openstack.org/26768416:31
funginibalizer: if there's some urgency i can up the priority of my startssl.com research. this is also desired for being able to more easily host a trystack.org redirect on static.o.o without having to go back to multiple certs there or buy an all new multi-domain one16:32
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fungisince with startssl.com i supposedly just pay a periodic fee and generate as many certs as i need16:32
rbradforanteaya, any advice on proceeding with this docs forbidden problem I mentioned yesterday. do I raise that in storyboard?16:32
jeblairclarkb, fungi: mordred and i have verified https://github.com/mmb/weechat-otr works!16:32
anteayarbradfor: well I think you got some suggestions from AJaeger did you not?16:32
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mordredclarkb: yes. it was _very_ easy to set up, btw16:33
anteayato be honest I have never seen that problem before and don't know how to track where it is coming from16:33
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pabelangerfungi: clarkb: jeblair: yolanda: any outrage with this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267636/16:33
* rbradfor checking, I must have missed that.16:33
pabelangerbascially need to uncap for packaging reasons16:33
mordredturns out you can install weechat scripts from the weechat script repo by doing /script install otr.py16:33
clarkbmordred jeblair awesome16:33
jeblairpabelanger: nope16:33
jeblairoh wait16:33
anteayarbradfor: he mentioned your name in irc when he responded to you16:33
jeblairthat's sqlalchemy16:33
mordredand then in a query window just do /otr start16:33
jeblairpabelanger: we can _raise_ the cap16:34
mordred(oh, I did have to pip install python-potr on the machine first)16:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Temporarily pin to ansible==1.9.4"  https://review.openstack.org/26765216:34
jeblairpabelanger: but sqlalchemy regularly releases incompatible things16:34
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mordredjeblair: well, do they anymore now that they're 1.0 ?16:34
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jeblairmordred: i don't know, i've had everything capped.16:34
pabelangerjeblair: okay, I can add an upper cap if needed16:34
nibalizerfungi: no urgency16:35
pabelangeror check global requirements16:35
yolandafungi, at least for east, there is no urgency on having real certs. We can go with self-signed until we are in production16:35
rbradforanteaya, checking the irc logs now, I didn't find it in my playback.16:35
jeblairyolanda, fungi: i think i was suggesting that we keep using self-signed even when we are in production16:35
funginibalizer: yolanda: a list of what certs you're going to need would still be helpful to have before it becomes urgent, so if you get time16:35
fungijeblair: i'm also fine with self-signed for that, sure. we have other ways of making that cert verifiable among the people who need to verify it16:36
yolandajeblair, as you said, we will be the only consumers, that will be fine16:36
jeblairyolanda, fungi, nibalizer: and stick with self-signed until we can run master with l7 haproxy ssl termination16:36
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jeblairthen maybe we can just buy 1 cert :)16:36
rbradforanteaya, found it, not sure why my client missed that.16:36
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fungijeblair: also a reasonable plan, sure16:37
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anteayahttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2016-01-13.log.html#t2016-01-13T19:18:5116:37
anteayaand http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2016-01-13.log.html#t2016-01-13T19:29:3616:37
rbradforAJaeger, re docs.o.o forbidden, yes it builds correctly locally, as well as in gate -- http://docs-draft.openstack.org/77/264977/3/gate/gate-oslo.log-docs/660678b//doc/build/html/usage.html16:37
anteayarbradfor: yeah I use the logs to search stuff older than a few hours16:38
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/requirements: Bump version of debtcollector to 1.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/26769316:38
notmorganmordred: actually, i think we can do sub-url today even w/o nova fixes, just would need to use the legacy connections to glance [direct to the ports] so it would need to be a self-managed CA or non-SSL'd16:38
crinklefungi: nibalizer yolanda right now the puppet module is set up to use a different cert/key pair for each service, but i've cheated and copied the same pair for each service16:38
notmorgancc jeblair ^, fungi , nibalizer16:39
yolandacrinkle, yep, was going to do the same16:39
crinklewe could also talk about setting up an haproxy or something to terminate ssl at a different layer16:39
mordredcrinkle: you should get notmorgan to tell you about his sub-url work16:39
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notmorgancrinkle: that would be my choice over nginx. but i coiuld help roll up w/ either. it needs L7 routing, but that is all relatively doable.16:40
rajinirThe log urls for the Thirdparty CI builds, is there any requirement for it? Can it be https?16:41
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jeblairfungi: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-midonet/commit/setup.cfg?h=2015.1.2&id=c1d899a402ee19ac58ad28f1f88f4953612d323d16:41
jeblairfungi: i'm looking for that change in gerrit and i don't see it.16:41
anteayarajinir: there is no requirement for log urls16:42
jeblairfungi: did they tag a commit that doesn't exist in the repo?16:42
anteayarajinir: the requirement is the logs be browsable and available for 1 month16:42
clarkbrajinir: anteaya I would recommend that you use dns and not an ip address when writing urls in gerrit comments16:43
clarkbthough I dont think we have said this is required16:43
anteayait is suggested yes16:43
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fungijeblair: it claims they tagged https://review.openstack.org/25630716:43
notmorgancrinkle: the only hard part is that the links from the services don't 100% match the URLs.16:43
anteayaclarkb: sorry was that the nature of the question and I missed it?16:43
notmorganmordred: also OTR works with weechat? neat16:43
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clarkbanteaya no, but seems like a common thing third party ci log hosting trips over16:43
anteayarajinir: yes as clarkb says please use dns not an ip address in log urls but it isn't a requirement16:44
clarkbthrn they change IPs and wonder why everything is broken16:44
anteayait does happen, yes16:44
crinklenotmorgan: have some documentation i can look at?16:44
rajiniranteaya: we do plan use dns and not an ip16:44
fungijeblair: commit e89b81a06ad5fc47bd82b9274132a2dc7b937c88 is that change's patchset which is the tagged object for 2015.1.2 afaict16:44
anteayabut I decided it wasn't going to be something worth turning their account off for, so it isn't a requirement16:44
mordrednotmorgan: yup. on the box "pip install python-potr" - in weechat private message buffer "/otr start"16:44
mordrednotmorgan: gah16:44
mordrednotmorgan: yup. on the box "pip install python-potr" - in weechat "/script install otr.py" then in private message buffer "/otr start"16:45
anteayarajinir: glad to hear it, you are making your life easier16:45
rajiniranteaya: tjust that someone internal is proposing https vs http. And wanted to check with you16:45
fungijeblair: if you're looking into the job failure e-mail mestery sent, see my reply on the ml (they're using the version from setup.cfg instead of the tag)16:45
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Raise SQLAlchemy upper cap to match global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26763616:45
pabelangerjeblair: ^ updates to the global requirements cap16:45
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anteayarajinir: well I don't know what it gets you but there is nothing in requirements about https vs http16:45
mordredrajinir: https is great - as long as it's a real cert and not something that's going to give users security warnings :)16:45
anteayamordred: good point16:45
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notmorgancrinkle: going to show you the haproxy config i have running now and a dump of the catalog. it's pretty straightforward. keystone needs one config element set, and everyone needs to auth/use the haproxy to talk to keystone, but otherwise it's normal config [where you'd normally config the host/port aka glance from nova, you do that still]16:46
rajinirmordred: anteya: Thank you16:46
anteayarajinir: welcome16:46
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anteayarajinir: yeah, don't create an issue for yourself16:46
notmorgancrinkle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/483904/ horizon can live outside if you want.16:46
anteayayou will have enough trouble keeping up with what it there in the simplist version16:46
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notmorgancrinkle: that config also is setup where no one can directly access the services from the outside, only via HAproxy, so i don't TLS internally16:47
notmorgancrinkle: ignore that i have no dns, i was lazy when hand-configuring :P16:47
notmorgancrinkle: and i would need to 2x check on novnc/spice16:48
openstackgerritMichael Jeanson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add scrip-type to env-script wrapper  https://review.openstack.org/26769816:48
notmorgancrinkle: to make sure it works 100% due to websocket through haproxy, but that one is easy-ish to work around16:48
mordredcrinkle: are we even running a horizon?16:49
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notmorgancrinkle: and in the keystone conf you need in [DEFAULT] to set public_endpoint and private_endpoint to be the HAProxy address.16:50
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notmorgancrinkle: and here is my catralog: http://paste.openstack.org/show/483905/16:51
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notmorgancrinkle: 172.29.236.4 is just an internal HAProxy interface, which could be the same as the public for these purposes [internal]16:51
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crinklemordred: no16:52
mordrednotmorgan: it is a lovely catalog you have made16:52
mordredone of my favorite parts is that it does not have any non-standard ports in it16:53
mordredjeblair: ^^ if you haven't seen notmorgan's catalog yet16:53
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crinklethat is very nice16:53
notmorganand i do have this all working in a POC.16:54
clarkbno IANA reserved ports that conflict with linux port mappings?16:54
mordredclarkb: right?16:54
notmorganclarkb: you still have that internally... but that is obscured from the end user16:54
mordredclarkb: it's almost like exactly how it should have been designed 6 years ago16:54
notmorganlong term that will go away too16:54
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Add more detail to event messages  https://review.openstack.org/26765116:54
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clarkbnotmorgan: oh we really need to fix that fwiw16:55
mordredalso - once project_id is out of urls thanks to sdague's work -that will be a super sexy catalog16:55
clarkbit means service keystone start can fail16:55
clarkband your users will be mad16:55
notmorganclarkb: i run keystone on port 80/443 only16:55
notmorganthat is easy16:55
notmorganand that already works16:55
clarkbah ok16:56
notmorganin fact, devstack will [soonish] probably head that way. we already have that as a thing.16:56
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mordred8 of 18 clouds in os-client-config are running keystone on non-standard ports. the other 10 are running on 44316:57
mordredso it seems we've tipped the scales already16:57
rm_workAnyone able to look at / +A this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267271/16:57
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notmorganso, if we want sub-url today, i can help roll that up.16:57
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notmorganthe only question is do we need TLS on the services internally or not.16:58
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mordredI don't think so16:58
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notmorganit does require a node to act as the HAProxy/gateway node16:59
clarkbprobably not though iy is hosted ona potentially hostile network?16:59
mordredwell, that can be on the AIO controller node anyway16:59
jeblairfungi: yeah, i was just curious why their setup.cfg had a version.  it doesn't in master, which is great, but that branch is still not making sense to me.16:59
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mordredand we can do iptables rules to allow intra-cloud traffic and whatnot16:59
notmorganmordred: nod.16:59
clarkbnone of us have switch/router access aiui (granted thats true for most of our cloud stuff too)17:00
mesteryThanks for the reply on my issues tagging networking-midonet fungi, much appreciated.17:00
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fungijeblair: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-midonet/log/?h=stable/kilo shows the 2015.1.2 tag's commit is the tip of the stable/kilo branch and also corresponds to that change ref in gerrit17:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Improve usability of the "Edit project" form  https://review.openstack.org/26376217:01
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fungijeblair: so i don't understand what's not making sense17:02
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gtmanfredShrews: cool, looks like it all passed :)17:02
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fungii don't see where you were getting c1d899a402ee19ac58ad28f1f88f4953612d323d from17:02
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jeblairfungi: the cgit log here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-midonet/log/setup.cfg?h=2015.1.217:03
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openstackgerritMichael Jeanson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add script-type to env-script wrapper  https://review.openstack.org/26769817:03
rm_workthis DIB issue is blocking the lbaas gate entirely, and we are currently in our midcycle, so this is really frustrating... so, nagging a bit more than normal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267271/17:04
crinklenotmorgan: mordred clarkb right now the servers talk to each other over the public internet, so i imagine that would have to change if we terminate ssl at the haproxy node?17:04
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mordredcrinkle: nah - just use iptables to secure their connections17:04
mordredoh - I guess we might want to tls anyway to prevent sniffing17:05
mordrednotmorgan: ^^17:05
notmorganok thats fine17:05
notmorganwe can use a private CA for that.17:05
jeblairmaybe we keep using17:05
jeblairyeah that17:05
fungijeblair: oh, i think that was the last commit which modified that file, which could have been prior to when the repo was imported17:06
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vikramHi there17:06
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vikramfacing some issue with Gerrit..17:06
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vikramreview link "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249488/" not getting merged evenif the workflow is approved17:07
vikramcan someone please help?17:07
vikramfungi: ping17:08
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fungijeblair: hrm, though there are prior changes on that branch which correspond to changes on the correct project17:08
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fungiyeah, that's odd17:08
clarkbvikram: the parent has to merge first17:08
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vikramclarkb: ohh.. i didn't noticed that17:09
vikramthanks17:09
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notmorganmordred, crinkle, though it would be easier if we didn't need to TLS the services themselves for intra-service communication17:09
notmorganthat doesn't go through HAProxy17:09
notmorgana chunk of the traffic will go through HAProxy17:10
fungijeblair: one possibility is that repo was wiped and reimported at one point and that commit was added in between... i agree the change-id in it seems unknown to gerrit and it's also missing the git notes gerrit would have added17:10
robcresswellHello. Would one of the cores mind bumping this again? It was approved once, but had a merge conflict with my other patch in the same file. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266878/17:10
jeblairfungi: oh hrm.17:11
crinklenotmorgan: we can change things to use the 10-net network if we need to17:11
notmorgancrinkle: that would be ideal since it dreastically simplifies the deployment17:11
jeblairwait what why?17:12
notmorgancrinkle: but, it's not the end of the world to just kep using a private CA for it.17:12
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notmorganjeblair: mostly so you don't need to TLS [which python does a bad job of in general] the independant services. or you should offload SSL to nginx / apache in front of the services17:13
notmorganjeblair: and it limits path of <user> -> service to through HAProxy/the LB that does SSL offload. also less certs to manage17:14
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jrollin case it hasn't been pointed out here yet, patch your ssh http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=2016011414273317:14
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jeblairnotmorgan: okay, i just don't want to assume a private network is necessary if it isn't really -- on-host ssl termination with a competent web server is fine... but i'm going to go read about ssh now17:16
jeblairjroll: thanks  infra-root: ^17:16
notmorganjeblair: it's not a huge added level of complexity to just keep doing as you would today.17:16
notmorganjeblair: yeah also reading ssh now17:17
clarkbwe dont need to patch if we drop a one line config change17:17
zaromorning17:17
clarkbbut patching is even better17:17
jrollpatch your ssh [config] :P17:17
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel mirror to mirrors  https://review.openstack.org/25352117:18
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel_mirror_slaves that use pypi-mirror  https://review.openstack.org/16524017:18
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clarkblooks like ubunutu recently dropped new paclages17:18
clarkbnow to check centos717:18
fungiyep. we should just all upgrade our ssh clients (and do the same on our servers)17:18
crinklejeblair: notmorgan currently rabbitmq /does/ use the private network, this can also be changed17:18
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Work around task deletion making it impossible to get subscribers  https://review.openstack.org/26771717:19
jeblairinfra-root: to the incident room?17:19
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fungithe puppetmaster is our biggest risk, but even there we're talking about needing to either have it connecting to a compromised server we don't know about or not really trusting the people we have granted root access on the servers (e.g. the dev servers where people may not already have root access to the puppetmaster)17:19
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nibalizercan just drop the fix line in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ya?17:20
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notmorgannibalizer: yes.17:21
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fungior upgrade your client17:24
notmorganupgrade is better17:24
notmorganbut if an upgrade isn't there...17:24
greghaynesSpamapS: can we get +A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267271/17:25
rm_work^^ YES please T_T17:25
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SpamapSgreghaynes: how did none of the CI catch that?17:27
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greghaynesSpamapS: we don't have CI that makes an image with a bootloader17:27
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SpamapSgreghaynes: oh that seems odd, since we should totally have CI that does devstack, makes an image, and boots it.17:28
SpamapSor tripleo-ci should be doing that.17:28
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/requirements: Update to os-brick 0.8.0  https://review.openstack.org/26772517:28
greghaynesI have a patch I need to get merged which boots an image17:28
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SpamapSbut ... then we'd have to either boot a real OS, or have a cirros image... and that would prove nothing. ;)17:29
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greghaynesMy patch pings the host17:29
SpamapScool17:29
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notmorgancrinkle: let me know where/if i should dig in a bit further for suburl things.17:29
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crinklenotmorgan: you will have to dig into some puppet :) you can check topic:infra-cloud to see what's currently set up17:32
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mordredinfra-root: for post-incident - a reminder that next time we talk about using our own dib base images - one of the benefits is turning off nova-agent which is what rax uses to overwrite files in our guests - and also we should maybe just look in to turning it off anyway17:32
clarkbmordred raximage uploads still fail :(17:33
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clarkbat least for nodepoolwe need a newer shade at the very least then its debug the next probl17:33
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notmorgancrinkle: looking :)17:35
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jeblairmordred: yeah, i don't think rax overwrites sources.list but some of our hosts came with it prepoulated incorrectly17:35
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Stop clients from using Roaming  https://review.openstack.org/26773017:36
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Stop clients from using Roaming  https://review.openstack.org/26773017:37
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openstackgerritIsaac Beckman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: DIB project-config hint on using DIB_NO_TMPFS  https://review.openstack.org/26773217:38
openstackgerritRajini Ram proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Updated gearman port information  https://review.openstack.org/26773317:38
jaypipesjeblair, clarkb, fungi, sdague: ever seen this when trying to use gertty on an environment that only contains Python 3.4 (no Python 2.7)? http://paste.openstack.org/show/48391017:39
jaypipes(this is latest master checkout of gertty from source, BTW)17:40
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fungijaypipes: i don't think i've ever used an environment which lacks python 2.x but has 3.x installed17:40
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fungiso, no, haven't seen that myself17:40
openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make neutron-vpnaas constraints jobs voting  https://review.openstack.org/26773417:42
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pabelangerDoes any nodepool-core and/or zuul-core mind approving the following patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:fedora-packaging+status:open17:45
pabelangerthey are related to requirements caps17:45
SamYaplefungi: thats teh default for ubuntu-core and debian i think, python3 but no python217:45
SamYaplefungi: but alot of packages still pull in python2 as a dep, so its rare17:45
fungiSamYaple: huh? i run debian sid and still have python 217:46
fungiSamYaple: neither python 2 nor python 3 are part of a minimal debian system anyway17:46
SamYaplefungi: how did you install it? if you do a debootstrap (which produces a functional system) you will not have it17:46
notmorgancrinkle: ok this will take a little more time for me to wrap my head around ;)17:46
fungiso it depends on how you define "default" i guess17:46
notmorgancrinkle: but slowly getting it17:46
sigmavirus24I'm working with a new contributor who has signed the ICLA but can't push a review because their contact info hasn't been stored. In trying to add it they are getting an exception ("Server Error - Cannot store contact information")17:47
fungiSamYaple: though i also interpreted it as "i'm using python 3.x because my platform does not offer packages for python 2.x"17:47
SamYapleno see, i was under the impression that python3 _was_ part of a minimal install nowadays for debian fungi. but your point is taken. i think we are both on the same page17:47
sigmavirus24Any ideas why this would be happening?17:47
SamYaplei am probably wrong about it anyway17:47
fungisigmavirus24: did they follow http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup or go cowboy?17:47
sigmavirus24fungi: possibly cowboy, let me see if I can help them figure it out17:48
SamYaplesigmavirus24: when i helped set it up for someone recently i do remember that happening, but it was because they hadnt signed one of the agreements17:48
fungisigmavirus24: https://ask.openstack.org/question/56720 has some troubleshooting tips for people who failed to find and follow the documentation17:48
sigmavirus24Thanks SamYaple & fungi this will help17:48
sigmavirus24SamYaple: they signed the ICLA i think17:49
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sigmavirus24(is verified in their list)17:49
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krotschecknibalizer: I'm thinking of abandoning 267107 and just adding a blank option to infra's invocation of that module. Do you have any disagreement with that?17:56
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Stop clients from using Roaming  https://review.openstack.org/26773017:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Show Project Groups on search page  https://review.openstack.org/26702717:58
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added extra-index-url to pip optional settings  https://review.openstack.org/26775118:04
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openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed openstack/requirements: Add "positional" package to g-r  https://review.openstack.org/26727018:06
notmorgandhellmann: fixed ^18:06
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add wheel mirror to configure_mirror.sh  https://review.openstack.org/26711718:06
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create jobs for a wheel mirror  https://review.openstack.org/16492718:06
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cbader_2I have a question, I just finished reinstalling my CI to common-ci and used my old ci. After installation and building my nodepools I don't see my providers in jenkins. I don't see any error any clue on where to look18:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Fill out bootloader pkg-map  https://review.openstack.org/26727118:10
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greghaynesdougwig: ^18:11
greghaynesdougwig: do you want to w-1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267223/ then ?18:11
cbader_2In nodepool list I see my providers and status is ready. but no providers in jenkins:8080 show up.18:11
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dougwiggreghaynes: that was a client bug.  we had two gate breaking bugs yesterday.  :)18:12
dougwiggreghaynes: and awesome.  :)18:12
dougwiggreghaynes: thank you18:12
greghaynesdougwig: np18:12
clarkbgreghaynes: you gonna make a release with that fix18:13
clarkb?18:13
greghaynesclarkb: yep18:13
clarkbwoot18:13
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Perform a booting test for our images  https://review.openstack.org/20463918:14
greghaynesclarkb: once I use ^ to test that it works everywhere18:14
clarkbkk18:15
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add BHS1 to the clouds.yaml on puppetmaster  https://review.openstack.org/26775818:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Add more detail to event messages  https://review.openstack.org/26765118:16
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AJaegerwow, 244 jobs in check queue, 99 in post and only 60 in gate18:20
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sc68calAJaeger: is that good? bad? indifferent?18:23
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dimsAJaeger : ya, lots of rechecks i think once the gate stabilized overnight18:28
dimssc68cal : top of gate id 5 hours, not too bad. check job number is quite high18:28
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments  https://review.openstack.org/26776418:30
jaypipesfungi, jeblair, clarkb, sdague: gertty py34 goodness ^18:30
AJaegersc68cal: busy times ;)18:30
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jeblairjaypipes: cool!18:31
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jaypipesjeblair: my lappy only has py34 and now I'm happily gertty'ing on both my desktop and my lappy -- using rsync to keep my "local" DB and git repos in sync. w00t.18:32
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jeblairjaypipes: nice!18:32
dimsjaypipes : aha, so i can expect a quick review on my py34/nova review :)18:32
clarkbbtw my jenkins01 jjb update failed yesterday with a 502 proxy error so I am rerunning it again now18:32
jaypipesdims: link?18:32
fungiis gertty tolerant of the database changing under neath it while running?18:32
fungiunderneath18:32
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jaypipesfungi: heh, not that brave yet :) I stop gertty on both machines before running my rsync :)18:33
dimsjaypipes : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262083/ (needs jenkins to finish, i update it everyday)18:33
fungiahh, yeah i wondered what the logistics were there18:33
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jaypipesfungi: with the amount of travelling I do, was getting sick of the need to essentially sync a crapload of gertty DB and git fu every time I readied for a trip...18:34
jaypipesfungi: this way is much much faster18:34
fungijaypipes: makes sense. i may do the same18:34
jaypipeshmm, found another py3k quirk... pushing another rev.18:35
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jeblairfungi, jaypipes: i think if the rsync locked the database you might be able to do it while running, but i don't know enough about sqlite locks to say -- without that, almost certainly a bad idea to overwrite it while gertty is accesing it.18:35
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments  https://review.openstack.org/26776418:37
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jaypipesjeblair: yeah, agreed. like I said, I wasn't that brave ;)18:37
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jeblairjaypipes: i've cherry-picked your change and will run it locally in 2.7 for a bit18:38
jaypipesjeblair: coolio.18:38
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jaypipesjeblair: I just pushed a second rev on that patch, just FYI18:38
jaypipesjeblair: grr, one sec, turns out there's no quote_plus in six.moves.urllib. one minute, pushing a fix.18:39
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jaypipesoh I see, it's all in six.moves.urlllib.parse18:39
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openstackgerritDaniel Wallace proposed openstack-infra/shade: Save the adminPass if returned on server create  https://review.openstack.org/26653218:41
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments  https://review.openstack.org/26776418:41
jaypipesjeblair: k, ready for you to test ^^18:41
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/requirements: Bump version of debtcollector to 1.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/26769318:44
amrithgreetings folks, I'm having some trouble +2'ing changes on trove stable/maint. It looks like I should be able to do that (I'm part of the right groups etc.,) but only see +1, -1 and 0. Someone around to help figure this mystery out?18:44
clarkbamrith: are you logged in with the user that shows up in https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/543,members ? if so, was your addition to that group recent? gerrit does cache group membership so there may be a delay reflecting your new powers18:45
amrithclarkb, not recent. at least 6 months18:45
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AJaegeramrith: which patch?18:46
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mordredjaypipes: what are you running that has no python2?18:46
amrithAJaeger, a couple in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/trove+branch:stable/liberty18:47
amriththe four that have passed Jenkins18:47
amrithI've +1'ed them18:47
amrithbut can't +2 them18:47
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/262291/18:47
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/262289/18:47
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clarkbamrith: you appear to have upwards of 4 gerrit accounts18:48
amrithfor example18:48
clarkbso thats likely the issue, the one in the group is not the one you are using to vote18:48
amrithone account18:48
AJaegeramrith: those show that you +1 them as "amrith" but 543 shows "Amrith K..."18:48
amrithmultiple email address18:48
AJaegerSo, two different acconts!18:48
jaypipesmordred: ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop. it has py27 somewhere, but (perhaps the way I run gertty via virtualenv --no-site-packages) I don't link to the py27 python binaries.18:48
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mordredjaypipes: neat18:48
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AJaegeramrith: if it would be one account, the display name would be the same which it is not18:49
jaypipesmordred: meh, it's a good way of isolating py3k issues at least ;)18:49
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amrithlet me get you account ids18:49
mordredjaypipes: right?18:50
clarkbI believe ubuntu made the switch to python3 as default python in 14.0418:50
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clarkbpython2 is still available, it just isn't part of a "vanilla" install18:50
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amrithclarkb, where do you see these accounts?18:51
clarkbamrith: just searching for owner:amrith gerrit does a drop down of auto completes18:52
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clarkbnibalizer: where does file_line in puppet come from? is that stdlib?18:52
amrithOK, so I have no idea how this system works if two of the accounts ahve the same email address ;)18:52
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amrithafter all, that's the login id18:52
clarkbit isn't the login id actually18:52
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clarkbthe openid is the id18:53
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clarkbso you auth to launchpad however you do that, then launchpad tells gerrit here is id $string with email foo and name bar18:53
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amrithand the username I see is amrith (amrith@tesora.com)18:54
pleia2sorry for missing the fun (dr appointment this morning)18:54
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amrithI have no idea what owner:"Amrith Kumar <amrith@tesora.com>" is18:55
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clarkbamrith: its an account18:55
nibalizerclarkb: yes18:55
clarkbamrith: and that account is the one in the stable maint group18:55
mordredpleia2: that'll learn about bout doktors18:55
amrithclarkb, an account on what system?18:55
mordredyah18:55
mordredsigh18:55
clarkbamrith: gerrit18:56
amrithopenid?18:56
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mordredpleia2: I was trying to say:18:56
mordredpleia2: that'll learn ya bout doktors18:56
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amrithok, let me see if I can figure out what openid it is related to.18:56
mordredpleia2: but apparently my fingers decided to type bout twice18:56
amrithgiven that I have only one account on ubuntuone, I'm not sure what that is.18:56
pleia2mordred: hehe18:57
clarkbamrith: looking in the databse there are two distinct openids18:58
AJaegerannegentle: rbradfor has a problem wiht olso.utils, he gets a forbidden when downloading a py file from docs.openstack.org.18:58
amrithclarkb, are they both from ubuntuone?18:58
AJaegerannegentle: the file exists on docs.o.o. Do you know whether we have any special setup that forbids the download?18:58
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clarkbamrith: yes (well launchpad urls but I think they are equivalent now)18:59
clarkbwe don't allow any other openid providers18:59
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* AJaeger just got a 503 service unavailable from gerrit - twice ;(19:02
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notmorganAJaeger: =/19:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable docs publish for openstack/pymod2pkg  https://review.openstack.org/26478119:03
AJaegerreload worked...19:03
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers  https://review.openstack.org/26777819:03
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annegentleAJaeger: thinking19:05
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annegentleAJaeger: only pdf for googlebot https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/www/static/robots.txt19:08
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clarkbfungi: so amrith has two openids, we have determined which of the two is the "invalid" one19:09
clarkbaccount id 1039619:09
annegentleAJaeger: any permissions on those files pre-set?19:09
AJaegerannegentle: permissions are the normal ones, everything looks fine to me.19:09
clarkbfungi: is it sufficient to set-account --inactive on that account?19:10
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AJaegerannegentle: page is http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.log/usage.html - click on "Source: examples/python_logging.py"19:10
AJaegerannegentle: is this a global setup/restriction for the Docs server?19:10
fungiclarkb: as an additional precaution, i usually use an update query to switch the account_id on the wrong openid row to the account which is going to remain active, so that if he accidentally authenticates with that again in the future we don't wind up with yet another duplicate account19:11
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clarkbfungi: well if you hit the url for that openid it can't find the account19:11
fungithough i guess if it just gets left on the inactive account it should in theory simply reject the login attempt19:11
clarkbhttps://login.launchpad.net/+id/Bf63M3T to see for yourself, so I don't expect that to happen19:11
fungiyeah, then just --inactive and move on19:12
clarkbkk19:12
amriththanks fungi clarkb19:12
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openstackgerritDaniel Wallace proposed openstack-infra/shade: Save the adminPass if returned on server create  https://review.openstack.org/26653219:12
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pleia2I have an hpe mentorship program student working with me on the translations check site, think it makes sense to use the devstack configuration we use in devstack-gate to deploy our longer-lived instance?19:15
pleia2if not, she may just be able to use it as a reference as we create a specific config for i19:16
pleia2it19:16
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clarkbpleia2: devstack gate can write out a "reproduce me" script that we could host on that host for local reproduction which may be helpful19:16
clarkbbut other than that  I don't know that there is a real reason to use it19:17
* pleia2 nods19:17
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pleia2ok, I'll have her look at it to get a feel for devstack configuration, but we'll create a different project for this to store the translation-site specific config19:17
clarkbthe other potentially useful things d-g does is make swap and take advantage of git repos that are already on host19:17
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers  https://review.openstack.org/26777819:18
pleia2I don't think the git repos are needed, since all we're adding to devstack once it's running is the translations we pull down from zanata19:18
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers  https://review.openstack.org/26777819:19
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add integration jobs for Bandit  https://review.openstack.org/26706619:20
rbradforAJaeger, any merit in checking rules having a .py extension?19:21
openstackgerritamrith proposed openstack/requirements: Update global-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/26653519:21
amrithclarkb: I've passed the information along to SlickNik to update the group.19:22
clarkbamrith: ok, the other account is inactive now so shouldn't cause trouble19:22
AJaegerrbradfor: I did already what I can. annegentle will check now. Please ask her again tomorrow or on Monday...19:23
amriththanks clarkb19:23
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rbradforAJaeger, thanks.19:23
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adreznecIs there anyone that can help me figure out an issue I've hit with the publish-to-pypi job? I pushed a 1.0.0 (release) tag to a project, but it looks like it ended up going through the pre-release pipeline instead, as it's only published a wheel and not also the source tarball to pypi. Not quite sure how to debug...19:25
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clarkbadreznec: need details like what project and which tag19:26
mriedemclarkb: looks like e-s is down19:27
adreznecclarkb: The project is nova-powervm, and the tag is 1.0.019:27
mriedemhttp://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html19:27
mriedemDelay in Elastic Search: Indexing behind by 16 hours19:27
openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Adjust assignees for translations check site  https://review.openstack.org/26778519:27
clarkbmriedem: "error" : "MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]"19:29
clarkbI am going to guess that networking work wasn't so unimpactful19:30
clarkbmriedem: I will have to kick the cluster19:30
mriedemok19:30
fungiadreznec: it looks like pypi had issues accepting the upload http://logs.openstack.org/45/459814df5722a1d5cd30a923c19ccb0f543836c8/release/nova-powervm-pypi-both-upload/06bc14b/console.html#_2016-01-11_22_46_33_87419:30
clarkbmriedem: also on the timestamp front I think part of hte issue is that we log with microsecond precision timestamps now19:30
clarkbmriedem: which means we have far more unique entries to index19:30
clarkbmriedem: we should go back to millisecond particularly since python at microsecond precision probably isn't very accurate19:31
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fungiadreznec: i can requeue that tag into zuul, just a sec19:32
mriedemclarkb: this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256584/19:32
mriedemL26819:32
adreznecclarkb: fungi: great, thanks for taking a look19:32
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/256584/6/oslo_log/formatters.py19:32
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sdagueclarkb: we override log format in devstack, it's still miliseconds19:34
clarkbsdague: I am pretty sure I have seen microseconds19:34
EmilienMhello infra, I've noticed I can't read puppet logs in my browser because I miss the txt in the filename (we always had it before) -- I don't see any change in jenkins/scripts/copy_puppet_logs.sh that would do that. Any idea? Look http://goo.gl/vARwvd for example19:35
sdagueclarkb: k. I just looked at recent runs and spot checking some logs they were all msec19:35
sdaguehttp://logs.openstack.org/78/245678/33/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/6937d9e/logs/screen-c-api.txt.gz19:35
sdaguefor instance19:35
clarkbmaybe its just when devstack isn't used19:35
sdaguecould be19:35
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clarkbI think it is a silly default for python19:35
sdaguebut that's pretty minority19:35
sdagueI thought the python default was msec, but with a comma19:36
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clarkbmsec is fine19:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Split changelog on nulls instead of (  https://review.openstack.org/26374819:37
clarkbmight also be a branch thing (I do know I had to update the log parsing format to handle the extra 3 digits)19:37
sdagueit might be apache services19:37
clarkbmriedem: cluster is recovering now19:37
clarkbah yup http://logs.openstack.org/86/260586/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/bd98704/logs/apache/keystone.txt.gz19:38
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clarkbso anyways those all end up logging a bunch of extra unique timestamps19:38
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clarkbits possible I can truncate them on the logstash side, but ideally we wouldn't be logging that way anyways when there is little benefit to it19:38
sdaguewe could probably fix it in devstack19:39
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Create ansible job launch server  https://review.openstack.org/26112519:39
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add ansible as a dependency  https://review.openstack.org/26606519:39
clarkbbut why do it at all?19:39
mriedemcompliance!19:40
clarkbif openstack's default is broken, maybe we should fix that19:40
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mriedemthere wasn't much of a reason given in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256584/ besides compliance19:40
sdagueclarkb: apache isn't configured via oslo.log19:40
sdaguethose timestamps are apache conf19:40
clarkboh I thought oslo.log was writing them out19:41
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/ea7fd5515344c18a5cec308fada67b6f3f6ab482/files/apache-keystone.template#L2219:41
clarkband just bypassing apache's logging19:41
sdaguenot in apache >= 2.419:41
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jeblairPlease view the HTML part of this message to see your vote receipt.19:42
jeblairi guess that means i voted19:42
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sdagueanyway, if you want to tweak that to make logstash happier, I'd be fine with that change. usec are not useful for gate debug19:42
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jeblairif you're not going to include a text/plain part, then just don't.  if they hadn't, then i would have seen the html part rendered.19:43
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fungiadreznec: looks like the second upload attempt failed, because even though pypi claimed there was a server error during the wheel upload it actually got there, so the rerun is now failing to reupload that. i'll manually upload the tarball to pypi19:45
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adreznecfungi: Ok, thanks for that. Was this just a one-off error, or is there any config I need to correct to get things working for future tags/uploads?19:46
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clarkbsdague: i don't know that they are useful for python debug at all19:46
clarkbsdague: you can't really trust that foo at .000001 happened before bar at .000002 can you?19:47
fungiadreznec: no, for some reason the proxy for pypi.python.org acts up during uploads and i think the sysadmins for it haven't been able to solve that yet19:47
fungiso this happens from time to time19:47
cbader_2So help please I have new installation of CommonCi I can't see any slaves in Jenkins I do see my nodepool instances in nodepool list. Any clue on where to look?19:47
sdagueclarkb: on a single system? dunno.19:47
adreznecfungi: All right, good to know.19:47
sdagueI wouldn't trust it across a cluster for sure19:47
clarkbsdague: ya, it might be trustworthy within a process, but definitely not across processes in python aiui19:48
clarkbbut for within a process the logger should already serialize order for you19:48
clarkbso its not useful there either19:48
sdagueclarkb: anyway, like I said, if it makes logstash happier push the adjustment patch to apache configs19:48
clarkbok19:49
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fungiadreznec: it's showing as the latest version at https://pypi.python.org/pypi/nova-powervm now19:50
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adreznecfungi: Excellent, I'll get it verified and tested.19:51
nibalizerI'm having trouble cloning the openstack/openstack repo http://paste.openstack.org/show/483916/19:51
clarkbnibalizer: that repo was renamed and openstack/openstack was never updated19:52
clarkbnibalizer: remove the --recursive19:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Create ansible job launch server  https://review.openstack.org/26112519:52
nibalizerwell without --recursive it isn't openstack/openstack19:52
clarkbyes it is19:52
clarkbyou just don't get all the underlyings cloned too19:52
nibalizermy point is that without 'git submodule sync' its just a directory full of directories19:52
clarkbyes but 1) you can fix it if you start there and 2) I think the useful info is in those directories19:53
clarkbits an accounting mechansim not a checkout all of openstack mechansim19:53
nibalizerdo I juts make a change to openstack/openstack to fix the naming?19:53
clarkb(though the issue should be fixed regardless)19:53
clarkbnibalizer: yes should be like any other project on gerrit19:53
nibalizerya I was just confused as to why the clone was failing19:53
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AJaegerI'd like some review help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267029/ - bandit is adding integration jobs similar to what hacking has done. Shouldn't this use zuul-cloner today?19:58
clarkbAJaeger: zuul-cloner would be ideal19:58
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AJaegerclarkb: so, jenkins/jobs/hacking.yaml should use that as well...19:59
clarkbya it would allow the projects to use depends on for example19:59
AJaegerclarkb: can you comment,please?19:59
clarkbsure19:59
AJaegerthanks19:59
mriedemeasy peasy d-g change that just needs another +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244831/20:01
mriedembeen around a few months20:01
Ryan_Lanewith bandit, is it possible to return more than one issue per check?20:02
Ryan_LaneI'm capturing calls, but I want to check every argument in a call20:02
clarkbmriedem: looking20:03
gtmanfredShrews: i added in the admin_pass to rebuild_server, and unittests for waits on rebuild and create, now they are faililng for heat_args and glance_args tests :/20:03
clarkbmriedem: want to write a followup to remove the failed sideways neutron stuff?20:03
mriedemwant to?20:04
mriedemi could i guess, just not right now20:04
clarkbI think the job that did sideways neutron was removed too20:04
clarkbsince neutron ended up not making an upgrade from nova net20:04
mriedemmissed it by thaaaat much20:05
mriedemclarkb: but yeah i can clean that up also, i don't see the ref to sideways-neutron in project-config at least20:06
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Shrewsmordred: did you release occ today?20:08
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clarkbmriedem: how much? || or |                                          | ?20:08
mordredShrews: I submitted a change to release it yesterday - perhaps it released today?20:09
mriedemthe latter20:09
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mriedemclarkb: ok, i found the commit that removed sideways-neutron from project-config e46f7b2cde3051d565bf00349dad344cd9398b7820:09
mriedemthanks git log --grep20:09
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mriedemso i can clean that up in a following change20:09
clarkbmriedem: git log -p is good too20:09
Shrewsmordred: ah. gtmanfred, recent occ release broke our tests. i'll fix them20:09
mordredShrews: yes. it released. did I breka something?20:09
mordredyay!20:09
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clarkbgreghaynes: we should probably recheck nodepool20:09
Shrewsmordred: yeah, version arg change bit us20:09
mordredShrews: oh - because we're unittesting things that occ does20:09
greghaynesclarkb: ya probably20:10
Shrewsmordred: yeah. perhaps we should not do that. this is the 2nd time that's hit us20:10
clarkbocc needs a "only release when someone can fix it immediately" policy20:10
greghaynesclarkb: another break?20:10
gtmanfredShrews: cool, thanks20:10
clarkbgreghaynes: well shade is broken not sure about nodepool20:10
greghaynesah, fun20:10
Shrewsclarkb: occ needs MOAR ACTIVE REVIEWERS  :)20:10
clarkbShrews: I mean releasing two days before christmas isn't going to be helped by more reviewers :)20:10
mordredclarkb: well, this didn't break anything in the real world20:11
Shrewsnah, just shade unit test20:11
mordredclarkb: it broke a place where in our unittest mocks we're reaching past the occ interface to check something20:11
clarkbmordred: ok so nodepool should be fine?20:11
mordredclarkb: yes20:11
greghaynesmordred: oh, in shade? is that the test which checks that clients are actually initialized?20:11
greghaynesbecause, that is a good test20:12
mordredclarkb: occ started calling python-*client constructors using kwargs instead of args and kwargs - which changes the argument lists passed to the constructors20:12
mordredgreghaynes: yes. it is that test20:12
mordredgreghaynes: well, it checks that based on various shade things, the constructors are invoked with correct arguments20:12
mordredhowever, it's subject to impl details in occ20:12
greghaynesya20:12
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mordredlike when we add a new default thing (last time it broke) or passing version as a kwarg instead of an arg (this time)20:13
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mordredgreghaynes: I tihnk we might should instead make sure in unittests that we're caling occ with the right things20:13
mordredsince we already have unittets in occ that check to make sure that occ invokes constructors properly20:13
greghaynesmordred: ya, that is fair, as long as there is also some kind of functional testing20:14
greghayneswhich I think there is now?20:14
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove checks for sideways-neutron job  https://review.openstack.org/26779920:17
mriedemclarkb: ^20:17
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Shrewsmordred: i'm going to change the tests to mock get_legacy_client() and validate that call20:19
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mordredShrews: ++20:20
mordredclarkb, nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265652 and the one before it could use a little love - and both should be safe to land20:21
mordredalso: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265647/ should get us back to copying the right group hiera files20:22
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clarkbmordred: does that need a recheck for the ansible lint job?20:23
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mordredclarkb: I have submitted one20:23
clarkbthere it is20:23
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clarkbis there any way in new gerrit ui to see related patches as more explicit parent child ?20:28
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SamYapleclarkb: +1 for that. would also like an answer20:29
clarkbzaro: ^20:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/26569720:29
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clarkbI mean some changes have multiple children20:29
clarkbmerge commits have multiple parents20:29
clarkbnone of that seems to be well disclosed in current ui20:29
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix unit tests that validate client call arguments  https://review.openstack.org/26780320:31
mordredclarkb: I especially like when clicking on a related change takes to to the out-of-date changeset because the whole stack hasn't been 100% rebased, so the list changes20:31
Shrewsmordred: ^^20:31
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mordredShrews: lgtm20:32
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mordredclarkb: yay, all the ansible-puppet changes passed lint now20:32
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clarkbmordred: ok, that stack is what got me mad about related changes20:32
clarkbmordred: because the list changed on me several time sand I couldn't tell if it was linear or a tree20:32
clarkbI should just start gertty20:33
mordredyeah20:33
mordredI think the last 3 changes need rebased, but that's why I was hoping the first two could just land20:33
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clarkbmordred: right but according to the related changes view those are the last 2 not first 220:34
clarkbthe one you linked is at the top of the list which is last20:34
clarkb(I think)20:34
mordredhand on i - this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251580/20:34
clarkbreally if there was just a subway graph next to it it would be 100x better20:34
Shrewsclarkb: that view is very unintuitive. thus my new found love for gertty20:34
mordredis the first one, right?20:34
clarkbmordred: yes I think so20:35
clarkbbut you linked 26564720:35
clarkbwhich is the last one20:35
mordredI think it's suppoesd to be like the output of git log --oneline20:35
mordredso the top of the list is the latest20:35
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Set filesystem_store_datadir explicitly in glance  https://review.openstack.org/26780520:35
clarkbmordred: yup, but without the graph to show what is going on20:36
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mordredyah20:36
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SamYaplei must admit i have gertty open just for this purpose of showing parent/child relationship20:37
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Collapse redundant hieradata tasks  https://review.openstack.org/26565220:38
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mordredWOW20:39
mordredthe stack looks totally different in gerrit than it does locally20:39
mordredand I can't get it to look the same for some reason20:39
clarkbmordred: :(20:39
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SamYaplesomething something eating own dogfood20:40
clarkbI know that a lot of people said they liked related changes before the upgrade and it completely changed how they gerrit20:41
clarkbbut I cannot seem to get it to work for me and it is currently my least favorite "feature" of the new version20:41
clarkb(gertty is now syncing)20:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Stop clients from using Roaming  https://review.openstack.org/26773020:42
openstackgerritRajini Ram proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Updated gearman port information  https://review.openstack.org/26773320:42
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SamYapleoverall i actually like the new version alot, with the exception of the related changes view20:42
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Collapse redundant hieradata tasks  https://review.openstack.org/26565220:42
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Add puppet module sync to the role  https://review.openstack.org/25158020:42
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Update to use blocks from ansible 2.0  https://review.openstack.org/26636120:42
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Clean up codestyle in conditionals  https://review.openstack.org/26636920:42
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Perform filepath checking in python  https://review.openstack.org/26643920:42
clarkbthe diff view is pretty bad too20:42
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clarkbas is the make a comment overlay thing20:43
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clarkband the patchset oriented ui instead of change oriented ui20:43
clarkbI trip over that several times a week seems like20:43
clarkbnone of it is intuitive20:43
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openstackgerritSamuel BARTEL proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add project poppy-ui  https://review.openstack.org/26780620:43
SamYapleyea i like the diff, but i wish it diffed the patchset changes rather than changes external to the patchset (in the case of a rebase)20:44
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SamYaplethat gets more evident when a patch hasnt had a rebase in a while20:44
mordredclarkb: I have updated the to make sure it matched what I have locally - and it should be cleaner to read now20:44
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Shrewsif i could funnel review.o.o URL clicks to gertty somehow, that'd be the best thing ever20:46
clarkbShrews: ++20:46
mordred++20:46
mordredI think that's the real reason I haven't fully migrated to gertty yet20:47
mordredthe links in the IRC20:47
clarkbfor me its that and phone gerrit20:47
mordredmmm. phone gerrit20:47
clarkbbut phone gerrit is basically unuseable now20:47
clarkbso giving up on that20:47
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mordredclarkb: you could write a private gerrit bot that only talks to you in a /query window that you can tell to leave comments on changes for you from phone irc ...20:48
mordredyou could call it gerirc20:48
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mordredclarkb: and maybe scroll through patches using ed command syntax20:49
openstackgerritRajini Ram proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Updated gearman port information  https://review.openstack.org/26773320:49
clarkb:gt20:49
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clarkber maybe thats vim command mode20:49
clarkbeventually its all mucle memory20:50
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mordredzomg. what about a multi-user ed-based gerrit bot that will remember a working change id for each person and will respond publically in channel for requests to print various lines20:51
mordredbut keeping a different line index per user20:51
jeblairShrews, mordred: gertty parses gerrit urls in its search box, so i copy/paste them from irc to there...20:51
mordredwe could totally make the world's most cryptically unusable irc channel ever20:51
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clarkbjeblair: I do the right click and open in browe rthing20:51
clarkbbut knowing that the url just works isn't that much more effort so can start doing that20:51
mordredyah - that's how I interact with urls20:51
jeblairShrews, mordred: however, it would be ideal if you could click them (in terminal or even in browser) and have that open in gertty20:51
jeblairShrews, mordred, clarkb: so maybe we can do a think like browsers do for a remote open20:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add BHS1 to the clouds.yaml on puppetmaster  https://review.openstack.org/26775820:52
jeblairi'm not sure the best way to implement that -- unix domain socket at ~/.gertty.sock or something?20:53
mordredjeblair: protobufs and gearman ... somehow20:53
Shrewsas long as we make it webscale, i don't care about the implementation details20:55
openstackgerritRajini Ram proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Updated gearman default port information  https://review.openstack.org/26773320:55
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mgagnelets use mongoDB /s20:56
clarkbwe can use a redis message queue20:56
funginowai, berkeley db20:56
clarkbmgagne: ohai, how are we on bumping max-server?20:56
clarkbgreghaynes: any chance you are able to be around for nodepool image builders in like half an hour to an hour?20:57
greghaynesclarkb: I have to Dr at 3PST20:57
clarkbhrm ok20:57
clarkbmaybe I should just yolo and do it20:57
clarkbhow is everyones yolo quota this afternoon?20:57
mgagneclarkb I was looking for more capacity but couldn't find any readily available. But I think we can safely bumped it now anyway20:57
jeblairclarkb: i'm relatively available for yoloing that.20:58
greghaynesI'll be around until then and can irc some from the Dr maybe20:58
fungiyeah, can scramble as needed20:58
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fungigo for it20:58
clarkbok why don't I go ahead and approve some changes now then20:58
mgagneclarkb thanks for follow up, commented on review20:58
clarkband they will merge in a bit then restart nodepool20:58
clarkbmgagne: thank you20:58
fungiwe need it done and off our priority list to free up bandwidth for other priorities ;)20:58
clarkbthen I will swing around and look at mordreds stuff20:58
greghaynesYa, I certainly won't object to someone else babysitting it ;)20:59
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clarkbjeblair: fungi 232800 and its parent are victims of the network public name change rebase21:00
clarkbjeblair: fungi I am fine with them but a second set of eyes really quick would be nice21:00
jeblairclarkb: on it21:00
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krotscheckOk, I am 95% confident that the wheel mirror patches are all ready to go for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:wheel_mirror+status:open21:01
mgagnewhat was the rational when 2nd column in gerrit was made 100% width when 3rd is not there? I find it hard to see content in the middle of my screen and the options/buttons 10 feet away to the right of my screen :-/21:02
krotscheckLanding 165240 will require an infra-core to assist in provisioning the necessary machines.21:02
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jeblairmgagne: i think that was for the ci table21:04
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clarkbjeblair: let me know what you end up voting on those two changes with and I can approve the whole stack if you +221:05
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jeblairclarkb: +2 on both21:06
clarkbsweet21:06
mgagnejeblair right. I think we can optimize it so there is a max-width for that specific table21:07
mgagnejeblair ci table will still be able to go full width if needed21:07
samueldmqis stackalytics.openstack.org down ?21:07
sc68calsamueldmq: stackalytics.com21:08
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samueldmqsc68cal: you saying we have removed our stackalytics.openstack.org ?21:09
pabelangersc68cal: stackalytics.o.o is a thing21:09
pabelangerno21:09
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pabelangerchecking21:09
samueldmqsc68cal: yes, what pabelanger sai ^21:09
samueldmqsaid*21:09
pabelangerapache2 is pinned at 100cpu again21:09
jeblairpabelanger: i think that means it's doing its bulk processing?21:10
samueldmq:(21:10
clarkbok stack is approved21:10
pabelangerjeblair: not sure, checking cacti now to see for how long21:10
clarkbmgagne: its probably a gwt thing21:11
pabelangerlooks like for a few hours21:11
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Upgrade from kilo to liberty  https://review.openstack.org/26781721:11
pabelanger[Thu Jan 14 09:37:03.296287 2016] [core:notice] [pid 18103:tid 140321138259840] AH00052: child pid 17694 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)21:12
pabelangersee a lot of that in apache error log21:12
gtmanfredmordred: have you ever thought moving each different type of thing from shade into a different class, and then making them all parents of the OpenStackCloud class, basically metaclasses that should never be used21:14
gtmanfredbut that you can then make it easier to know where something is changed, and have a file that isn't almost 4k lines long?21:15
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clarkbyou'd have to be careful with method resolution if you do that21:15
gtmanfredonly if you use super i think21:16
gtmanfredyou would never call the sub classes, only the OpenStackCloud class21:16
gtmanfreds/sub/parent21:16
clarkbright so OpenStackCloud.do_something()21:16
clarkbthat still runs through method resolution21:16
gtmanfredeverything would still reference self, which on that object, would be able to see all the other ones21:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman  https://review.openstack.org/19517521:16
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gtmanfredyour only other thing would be to make sure you don't have duplicate methods in the extra classes?21:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman  https://review.openstack.org/19772221:17
cody-somervillejeblair: So looking at http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=392&rra_id=all it doesn't appear memory usage is climbing like it was after what I assume was a restart at the start of January. Is that unexpected?21:17
clarkbgtmanfred: and if you do have duplicates tha tthey resolve in the correct order21:17
fungiit looks like the west coast of the usa has food coma so we're finally gaining ground on the check pipeline21:17
gtmanfredok, but if you say you can't have duplicates?21:17
clarkbgtmanfred: that is hard to enforce21:17
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clarkbanyways I agree massive 4k line file is not great21:18
pabelangersamueldmq: jeblair: going to restart system, and configure apache2 to coredump to temp21:18
pabelangerthen we can get a backtrace and see what is happening21:18
clarkbbut massive mixin container class is pretty terrible in my experience too21:18
gtmanfredi guess it is easier now, that pep8 will let you know if you are overwritting already defined functions21:18
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jeblaircody-somerville: i agree.  ^ jhesketh fyi.21:18
jeblaircody-somerville: we may have restarted with I2a967f0347352a7674deb550e34fb94d1d903e89; perhaps that had an impact.21:19
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gtmanfredanyway, was just a thought, I am about to start adding a bunch of keystone stuff to shade so that I can get rid of directly calling keystoneclient in salts keystone module21:20
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Shrewsgtmanfred: allow me to point you to http://docs.openstack.org/infra/shade/future.html21:21
gtmanfredkk21:22
gtmanfrednixw21:22
gtmanfred... if i could type21:22
gtmanfrednice!21:22
Shrewsgtmanfred: you should have seen the code before. one large __init__.py file21:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Add dib deletion test  https://review.openstack.org/21527521:22
gtmanfredheh21:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image delete using gearman  https://review.openstack.org/19811421:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Move nodepool config loading into module  https://review.openstack.org/23159221:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Make secure.conf optional  https://review.openstack.org/23280021:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple nodepool db and config from builders  https://review.openstack.org/22239821:24
clarkbhere we go21:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders distinguish between failure and exception  https://review.openstack.org/24213121:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple builders from nodepool instance  https://review.openstack.org/23213521:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders can be run on their own  https://review.openstack.org/23225121:25
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annegentleha probably a silly time to ask a Gerrit question? :)21:25
clarkbannegentle: no21:25
annegentleWhere do I see my vote on a particular review?21:25
annegentleclarkb: thank heavens :)21:26
clarkbannegentle: its in the middle area of the page21:26
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clarkbannegentle: just under the Abandon button21:26
annegentleclarkb: aH! So If my name isn't under there somewhere, I must have voted zero.21:26
clarkbannegentle: ya if you have not voted or voted 0 I believe you don't show up21:26
openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack-infra/system-config: gerrit: Restore reasonable max-width to change info table  https://review.openstack.org/26782321:26
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annegentleclarkb: yeah, that was it, I had commented but left a 0 reply. Thanks!21:27
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack/os-testr: Enable testr run passthrough arguments  https://review.openstack.org/26782421:29
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Move docs.openstack.org/releases to releases.openstack.org  https://review.openstack.org/26650621:33
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fungipabelanger: was that sudo failure on stackalytics.o.o (trying to cat syslog as the stackalytics user) you?21:34
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fungilooks like you logged in at around that time, so i'm assuming it was21:35
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pabelangerfungi: yes, trying to debug apache failure21:36
fungipabelanger: cool, thanks! just making sure21:37
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fungineed help?21:37
pabelangerfungi: apache is coredumping, so need to save them to disk for gdb21:37
pabelangerso, need to get a patch up for puppet-stackaltyics to enable that21:37
gtmanfredoh neat, operator_cloud is a thing21:38
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fungipabelanger: wow, that's wacky. what sort of framework does stackalytics use that it has tendrils deep enough into apache to crash it?21:39
fungipabelanger: looks like the whole server got rebooted about 20 minutes ago21:40
pabelangerfungi: we proxy from apache to uwsgi21:40
pabelangerfungi: ya, I did that to start import process again21:40
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pabelangersomething goes wacky and apache is pinned to 100%CPU21:41
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pabelangerbut errors.log for apache also should a bunch of coredumps21:41
funginibalizer: (/Stage[main]/Openstack_project::Template/File_line[ensure NoRoaming for ssh clients]/ensure) change from absent to present failed: 6 lines match pattern 'Host *' in file '/etc/ssh/ssh_config'.  One or no line must match the pattern.21:42
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fungipabelanger: wow, back at least as far as november 6? looks like this has been around as long as we've been deploying it21:45
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mordredgtmanfred: yah- as an end-user of openstack who almost never has admin acccounts, I get frustrated that tools usually mix operator functions in with non-operator functions21:47
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gtmanfredyeah, i like it21:47
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clarkbok nodepool install is updated, ready to restart the daemon??21:48
jheskethMorning21:48
gtmanfredi was just looking through, and couldn't find any of the things i wanted, finally did a git grep, and low and behold, there everything is21:48
jheskethOh I'm just in time for the party21:48
jeblairjhesketh: morning; i updated my v3 changes with a short race bugfix and reapproved them21:48
jeblairjhesketh: and see info from cody-somerville above21:48
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jeblairjhesketh: (the race is annotated in gerrit comments if you are curious)21:49
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pabelangerfungi: Ya, we had the problem from the beginning, but hasn't happened until today21:49
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pabelangerfungi: I wonder if we need max-requests or something to help cycle processes21:50
pabelangerbut either way, I think we need a coredump to see what is happening21:50
jheskethjeblair: thanks, will look21:50
fungipabelanger: what do you mean it hasn't happened until today? i see tons of lines like "[core:notice] [pid 5273:tid 140158240216960] AH00052: child pid 17753 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)" in the apache error logs as far back as we've kept them21:51
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments  https://review.openstack.org/26776421:51
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add support for external commands  https://review.openstack.org/26783121:51
pabelangerfungi: sorry, I meant the 100% cpu issue21:51
pabelangerfungi: I think they are 2 different issue21:51
pabelangerbut not sure21:51
jeblairclarkb, mordred, fungi: https://review.openstack.org/267831  adds support for "gertty --open <URL>" which will instruct a running gertty to immediately open that change21:52
clarkbjeblair: neat21:52
clarkbI am going to restart nodepoold now since no one protested21:52
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jeblairclarkb: ++21:52
fungijeblair: ooh!21:52
fungiclarkb: sounds good21:52
jeblairclarkb, mordred, fungi: i'm not really sure how to make my terminal do clicky things with urls, so if anyone has any good ideas, let me know.  but that's at least half of the equation :)21:53
clarkbok its running again now21:53
clarkbits not using a separate builder proces, it is using the built in builder (which can be turned off when we distribute the builders)21:53
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clarkbjeblair: I believe xresources can be used to do it atleast for urxvt21:54
clarkbthere is some magic related to that to hvae it open urls in your browser21:54
clarkbnot sure if that is common with xterm and children though21:54
fungijeblair: i don't really do clicky things in my terminal except to sometimes copy/paste to things with poorer keyboard control... i've actually been looking for a mechanism to turn off the pointer integration in gertty since i often forget to hold the shift key before trying to highlight or paste with a pointer21:54
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clarkbjeblair: https://lukas.zapletalovi.com/2013/07/hidden-gems-of-xterm.html21:55
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jeblairclarkb: i thought the last patch in the series made it a separate process21:56
clarkbjeblair: it allows it to run separately21:56
clarkbbut you have to explicitly tell it to do that21:56
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clarkbso if this works we get the puppet in to run a separate builder, then restart nodepool without the inbuild builder21:57
clarkbthen from there we puppet builer host(s)21:57
jeblairclarkb: just having the builder run in a separate proc locally will be nice21:57
clarkbyup21:57
clarkb(that avoids cpu contention problems021:57
clarkbbut that requires atomic puppet/nodepool updates, doing the rolling forward to separate proc is easier21:58
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clarkbhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/240093/ is the next step fwiw21:59
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clarkbnibalizer: ^ any chnce you want to address the -1 from jenkins on that?22:01
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Bump APScheduler to >=3.0  https://review.openstack.org/26201722:01
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add support for external commands  https://review.openstack.org/26783122:02
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add option to disable mouse support  https://review.openstack.org/26783522:02
jeblairfungi: ^ :)22:02
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fungijeblair: my hero!22:02
greghaynesclarkb: no explosions?22:02
pabelangerclarkb: mind reviewing ^ to bump apscheduler to 3.0?22:02
pabelangerwhen time permits22:02
clarkbgreghaynes: not yet, was going to let it settle tthen trigger a build22:02
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greghaynesawesome22:02
pabelangergreghaynes: clarkb going to test new builders now too22:03
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craigeo/22:06
clarkbhow do you go to the next match in gerrit diff view22:07
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clarkbpabelanger: I am trying to figure out how job.remove() works22:09
clarkbpabelanger: Cron() is a class that has no body22:09
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tdurakov_AJaeger, hi, are you around?22:09
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timburkehi! any chance someone could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233245/? i've had it out there for a few months now... it has the nice benefit of removing the swiftclient version cap from os-loganalyze22:09
cody-somervilleWhats the policy for project names that conflict with other non-openstack projects? I noticed the nomad project (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260993/) was created recently. It caught my attention because I wondered if it might have been Hashicorp's nomad project ("A Distributed, Highly Available, Datacenter-Aware Scheduler") but it is actually unrelated and is a "general purpose management framework for distributed acce22:10
cody-somervilleleration resources".22:10
pabelangerclarkb: http://apscheduler.readthedocs.org/en/latest/modules/job.html#apscheduler.job.Job.remove22:10
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pabelangerclarkb: I can update it back to the original way if you like22:11
clarkbpabelanger: right but where is Job made a thing22:11
clarkbpabelanger: I am not sure this is an isuee with your change, it just makes the code hard to read22:11
fungijeblair: tested 267835 and it works great. thanks again22:11
jeblaircody-somerville: i think the policy is we're not the name police, but it probably would have been helpful and welcome for someone to point that out on the project-config change before it merged (if, indeed, no one did)22:12
jeblairfungi: did i trick you into checking out the whole branch with project-topic support too? ;)22:12
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fungijeblair: no, i cherry-picked that one onto master tip22:12
fungibut i'm happy to!22:12
jeblairdrat! heh :)22:13
fungicody-somerville: the furthest we go is to maintain a document that says this http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#choosing-a-good-name-for-your-project22:13
clarkboh no wonder I am confused job is actually set later22:13
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fungijeblair: i'm running that whole stack now. trying things out and will follow up in review if i spot any trouble22:16
fungi--open works as advertised22:17
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clarkbjust started a snapshot build22:18
clarkbwill do dib after22:18
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fungigertty vi keymap support is nice! i should consider what else could go in there besides :q now22:19
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clarkbpabelanger: just one small thing22:20
ianwgreghaynes: too much scrollback ... where we at with dib?  anything i can do to help?22:21
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pabelangerclarkb: sure22:23
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clarkbhrm this image build keeps failing on booting the node to make an image in. Server status error22:27
clarkbI do not think that is a problem with the patch22:27
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fungijeblair: the project topic implementation is nifty, though Tm could stand to open a selection list of existing project topics22:28
clarkbthere it goes, so once tis is done it will be the real test of updating a dib image22:29
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jeblairfungi: tell me about it22:29
jeblairfungi: i renamed my puppet topic to 'p' while i was adding them all.  but then i added mark support so i could batch add them, so at least there's that now.22:30
fungiheh22:30
fungibut works great as designed22:30
pabelangerclarkb: just to confirm, you are saying you are fine with import apscheduler ?22:31
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anteayadougwig: back22:31
clarkbpabelanger: or even import long.path.thing as apscheduler22:31
clarkbpabelanger: but something to indicate it comes from elsewhere other than the import since that seems to be the style of import22:32
pabelangerclarkb: sure22:32
pabelangerthanks22:32
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dougwiganteaya: welcome back. :)22:32
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dougwiganteaya: is now good?22:34
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anteayanow is good22:34
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anteayadougwig: okay so, looking here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n662622:35
anteayanot looking at the template jobs22:36
anteayaI see 11 jobs in check and 2 in gate22:36
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anteayanow I haven't checked to see if all 11 check jobs are non-voting22:36
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anteayabut the idea is that any job in check that is voting is also in gate and voting22:36
anteayahelp me clear up this 11:2 mystery22:36
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clarkbbtw jenkins01 is still updating ...22:37
lifelessStevenK: how are your setuptools and pip patches going?22:38
lifelessNakato: any other things needing reviews?22:38
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Bump APScheduler to >=3.0  https://review.openstack.org/26201722:38
dougwiganteaya: i believe there are three that are voting in check and not in gate: dvr, functional, and lbaas.  lbaas is temporary while dib was being fixed i'll propose that back to voting and gate when I see some lbaas jobs pass and the gate clears a bit.22:38
dougwiganteaya: that leaves two.  DVR and functional.22:39
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add a script to list change owner statistics  https://review.openstack.org/26397122:39
dougwiganteaya: they're flaky, but mostly working, and it was perceived that the value of having them vote in check and not being flaky in the integrated gate was worth it.22:39
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dougwiganteaya: that's my understanding, anyway.22:39
Nakatolifeless: Nope22:39
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NakatoStevenK has taken today off.22:40
fungiokay, now 263971 not only outputs rich yaml but also generates the csv format the invite2summit tool wants and the plain text list of addresses civs wants22:40
Nakatolifeless: ^22:40
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: neutron: set network_device_mtu to br-ex MTU value  https://review.openstack.org/26784722:40
lifelessNakato: ack thanks22:40
anteayadougwig: who was in one that decision, when was it made, who is working on making the jobs stable and what is the action when they are, also what is the action if they don't become stable at a certain point?22:40
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dougwiganteaya: it was discussed in those two reviews, at least. i have vague memories of it also being discussed in channel, but it's in writing in the reviews. carl/ryan/swami are on the DVR job, and assaf is on the functional job. i think they were going to be gating if they started having a track record of stability. and if the features are never stable, i'd22:43
dougwigexpect them to be killed. not that i expect the stakeholders involved to go that route.22:43
dougwiganteaya: we also have this meta-problem of the neutron job being about 12% stable all by itself.  so we can only afford a job or two at that failure rate, which means consolidate some jobs, or get that stability rate down, so all the tests are more stable. the entire team is working on that one.22:44
nibalizerclarkb: im pretty busy this afternoon but I'll get to it tomorrow22:44
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anteayadougwig: okay thank you22:45
* anteaya thinks22:45
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anteayamy concern is that there is lots of work and no results22:46
anteayaor not results that satisfy the criteria of stable22:46
Swamidougwig: sounds right to me. We also discussed that if the multinode job is stable we might give up the single node job for DVR and make the multinode job voting at the gate.22:46
dougwiganteaya: can you be more specific?  the dvr test was 30% a month or so ago, and is much better now.22:46
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anteayadougwig: well that is the thing, I don't have time to track it, so is there someone who is tracking it with an end date in mind?22:47
anteayabecause me asking and you or someone else assuring me it is being worked on (and I do believe you, by the way) could go on for months22:48
anteayawhen are we done?22:48
anteayabasically we are outside infra testing policy22:48
anteayathat makes me uncomfortable22:48
anteayaand I don't have a date when neutron will be within testing policy again (or for the first time)22:49
anteayayou are asking me to say uncomfortable and I'm asking for how long22:49
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Match only the uncommented Host *  https://review.openstack.org/26785422:50
anteayas/say/stay22:51
nibalizerclarkb: that ^^ works on paste and git0222:51
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dougwiganteaya: the end date is a great question, and we don't have one written down at present, and perhaps we should. our efforts to decouple and such are directly aimed at being able to make many of our tests smaller in scope, the fullstack tests are directly aimed at being able to test more configurations with a single job. one thing to consider, is the rule22:53
dougwigabout a 1:1 match of check and gate queues always appropriate? we have a patch from experimental -> check/non-voting -> check+gate/voting, but there is quite a bit of social value to just check+voting, from what we've seen.22:53
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anteayainfra policy is check and gate for voting jobs22:54
dougwig /patch/path/22:54
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anteayaif you would like infra to make exceptions to that policy then I think the best place is to bring it up at an infra meeting so folks have a chance to weigh in22:55
anteayaand if we make and exception it is archived22:55
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anteayaproject-config is a big repo, reviewers can't just make up their own rules22:55
dougwiganteaya: that makes sense. i'm actually wondering if it's worth going further and documenting when that is a good alternative, and not just an exception (i.e. a policy change.)22:55
anteayadougwig: that's fine22:56
anteayawhen what is a good alternative?22:56
fungifwiw there are lots of jobs that run in check and not gate. sdague went on a spree a while back and removed non-integration things from the gate on a lot of qa stuff i think?22:56
anteayaor really?22:56
dougwiganteaya: when voting in check and not running in gate is a good alternative.22:56
anteayaperhaps I am behind the times and am wasting my time on a policy that only exists in my mind22:57
anteayawell it seems sdague already did it, so perhaps it might be worth your time to work with him22:57
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anteayaand write something up so I can use it as reference when I review22:57
anteayasince I am still working on the voting in check and gate rules22:58
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: neutron: set network_device_mtu to br-ex MTU value  https://review.openstack.org/26784722:58
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dougwiganteaya: do you happen to know if that's written anywhere currently, so we can submit a patch?22:58
anteayawell fungi saying so in channel is the first I've heard of it22:59
dougwiganteaya: i meant the policy that you're referring to.22:59
anteayaso his statement from backscroll is the only thing I could offer at this point as reference22:59
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fungianteaya: have a look at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n9606 for example and note that only like 3 of those are non-voting22:59
anteayajust that that is how I have always reviewed project config and thought others were as well22:59
anteayaand it had been stated as what is voting in check is voting in gate many times23:00
anteayabut no I don't have a link to any document that says that23:00
anteayafungi: no I believe you23:00
fungiso something like 8 jobs run voting in check on tempest but not in gate23:00
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fungithere are likely other similarly glaring examples23:00
fungii'm not making a statement in support of that, it's probably worth taking the group temperature on at some point, just pointing out it's a behavior which exists23:01
anteayafungi: am I just making this up23:01
anteayado you ever recall anyone saying that we had voting in check and gate as an expectation?23:02
anteayaor am I just off in my own corner here23:02
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fungianteaya: i think it was an expectation we had at one point, though i don't know that it was ever a hard and fast policy23:04
anteayaoh?23:04
anteayait felt so to me23:04
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anteayaso perhaps I misunderstood23:04
anteayado we have a policy or can projects just do as they like?23:04
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fungithe counterargument was that some jobs provide good feedback in check but when you already have to wait many hours at peak times for a change to make it through the gate pipeline, cutting down the flakier jobs reduces the chances of it bouncing out because of an unrelated job failure and having to go all the way back around again23:05
anteayayes, that is dougwig's argument23:05
anteayawhich is a fine argument23:05
fungii think it was sdague's reasoning for e.g. tempest's jobs being that way too23:06
anteayabut I want to feel I am being consisent across projects23:06
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anteayathat's fine23:06
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anteayabut if I am expected to review differently then I am, I'd like to know that expectation23:06
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anteayaif I'm in the wrong here do say so23:08
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anteayaI can adjust my expectations of myself accordingly23:08
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fungiuh... i don't know that there's a right or a wrong, just opinions23:09
anteayaokay that is fair23:09
dougwigi will similarly adjust my reviews either way, but i do see value in voting only in check, personally.23:09
dougwigjust let me know.23:10
anteayabut I do think consistentcy is important23:10
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fungii don't have a strong opinion on it myself, but if we arrive at some consensus as a group we can maybe write something down about it i guess23:10
anteayadougwig: well I guess if I'm the only one who cares do as you please23:10
anteayaI had thought we had consensus23:10
anteayaI thought we had agreed to voting in check and gate23:11
anteayabut anyway, I'll make dinner now23:11
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anteayadougwig: sorry to have wasted your time23:11
fungiperhaps look back at the changes in the project-config history which imbalanced some of the more severe cases of this and see what discussions were had in the changes at that time23:11
anteayaI don't recall there ever was any23:11
anteayaI just recall hearing in channel many times voting in check and gate23:12
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fungiwell, if it were a hard and fast rule i expect we'd just have a job that confirmed the layout file parsed to have all voting check jobs also be in the gate pipeline and vice-versa. no point in wasting reviewer effort on something which can be validated mechanically23:15
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anteayasorry my cat decided to tap dance on my keyboard so I had to delete for a minute before I could reply23:18
anteayaso are you saying that we never had a policy because we never had a job?23:19
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anteayaI know I get out of touch some times but I didn't realize I was so very far out of touch23:19
funginah, just saying that we have few hard-and-fast policies. mostly it's up to reviewers making reasonable judgements. otherwise we wouldn't need reviewers we could just use machines23:20
anteayaright23:20
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anteayaand I had thought that the group had formed an agreement around voting in check and gate23:20
anteayaand had been operating on the premise23:21
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anteayaI'm fine if I'm wrong, I would just like to know what the real agreement is23:21
anteayasince obviously I don't know what it is23:22
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fungiat one point i would have agreed, but it seems that went out the door a while back so i don't really know at this point either. just that we have some fairly significant precedent in the configuration currently and for a while now23:25
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anteayaokay that's fair23:28
anteayahow do we characterize it?23:28
anteayaand I don't think it is fair to others trying to enforce the agreed upon rules if those who heretofore had agreed just change that agreement when it suits them23:29
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anteayaas that does affect everyone, so at the very least it would be nice to know23:29
anteayaif consulting is off the table23:29
mordredI just came back to channel and saw "heretofore"23:35
mordredwhich makes me think I've missed something good23:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Fix unit tests that validate client call arguments  https://review.openstack.org/26780323:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Match only the uncommented Host *  https://review.openstack.org/26785423:37
jeblairomg omg omg23:40
jeblairthose are clickable links now in my irc client and they open up in gertty23:40
jeblairthis is way cooler than i thought it would be23:40
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mordredjeblair: \o/23:40
jesusaurusjeblair: ooh, how did you do that?23:40
anteayamordred: no nothing good, just me working heretofore in where I can23:41
mordredSamYaple: a) thank you for the great reviews on ansible-puppet23:41
anteayajeblair: nice work23:41
mordredSamYaple: b) on your comment about destination and host - the tasks in the containing role that call it delegate_to: localhost23:41
mordredSamYaple: so, it's a little weird in that it's not a _general_ purpose module - it expects to only ever be run on the source host via a delegate_to - but since it's encapsulated in a role that seems safe enough?23:42
jeblairjesusaurus, mordred, clarkb, fungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/483944/23:42
mordredSamYaple: (the other option is a rather insane amount of weird yaml and jinja :) )23:42
mordredjeblair: NICE23:43
jesusaurusjeblair: awesome23:43
clarkbjeblair: nice!23:43
clarkbI might have to go back to urxvt just for this23:43
mordredjeblair: you have inspired me to switch to urxvt for my weechat window23:44
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jeblairyeah, the multiple pattern matches are pretty sweet23:44
mordredexcept now I have to remember how to change font size with xresources23:44
SpamapSohhellsyeah23:44
mordredSpamapS: right???23:44
jeblairand that bit about C-Delete -- that means "open the most recent matching url"23:44
SpamapSexcept.. I use terminator for weechatting right now23:44
jeblairso when i type C-Delete it opens up that paste right now23:45
mordredZOMG23:45
mordredthat's EVVEN BETTER23:45
jeblairi know!23:45
clarkbjeblair: were you a urxvt user prior to this?23:45
mordredjeblair: so - do you know the xresources syntax for doing system ttf fonts?23:45
jeblairclarkb: yes23:45
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clarkbI had the whole daemon client setup working for a long time then got mad at how poorly fonts rendered23:46
clarkbbut this would be worth funny fonts23:46
jeblairclarkb: i like bitmap fonts23:46
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade infra-cloud to liberty  https://review.openstack.org/26786323:46
jeblairclarkb: (they scale down much better than anti-aliased fonts)23:47
clarkbjeblair: ya in this case I believe there was a bug in ubuntu somewhere that affected how they were rendering. Everything was double wide23:48
clarkband instead of patching it lcaolly I just went back to an xterm derivative23:48
jeblairmordred: on my laptop i have: URxvt*font: 7x1423:49
jeblairmordred: which is me picking the smallest bitmap font i can read on the hi-res display on the x25023:49
jeblairmordred: i also have !URxvt*font: xft:Monospace:pixelsize=1023:49
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jeblairmordred: which is commented out.  i don't know if it works.23:50
mordredjeblair: yes23:50
jeblairmordred: but maybe that's a clue about how to hand it over to xft23:50
mordredjeblair: I have just tested with the font I use23:50
mordredjeblair: and it works23:50
mordredwhich is exciting23:50
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mordredwoot23:51
mordredI am now ircing from urxvt23:52
mordredI agree with clarkb - the font rendering is not as good as I'd want23:52
mordred:)23:52
jeblairmordred: what font are you using?23:54
mordredjeblair: Hack23:54
jeblair(and yeah, that xft line seemed to do something)23:54
mordredhttp://sourcefoundry.org/hack/23:54
mordredjeblair: I think you can probably land the remote-launch patch :)23:55
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jeblairmordred: i don't have hack installed, but do wonder what's gone wrong since apparently it's just having xft do the rendering...23:57
mordredso - it's mostly rendering fine23:58
mordredexcept for the line on which I'm typing23:58
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jeblairweird23:59
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mordredand the first character of the column where text is in weechat23:59
mordredjeblair: http://imgur.com/iMibygb23:59

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