| mordred | jeblair: notice the truncation of the characters after the | | 00:00 |
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| mordred | and how weird my input line looks | 00:00 |
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| clarkb | rebuilding nodepool test image now that the puppet fix is in | 00:02 |
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| fungi | mordred: still skimming but i (an old school xterm user) do something like xterm*vt100*faceName:vl gothic:bold:pixelsize=15 | 00:02 |
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| mordred | jeblair: in normal terminal it's fine - look ... http://imgur.com/srdf1fo | 00:03 |
| mordred | fungi: I have found setting the font | 00:03 |
| mordred | fungi: I'm now on to "it renderes funny" | 00:03 |
| fungi | ahh | 00:03 |
| jeblair | mordred: what version of urvt are you running? | 00:04 |
| mordred | fungi: it felt good to type "xrdb merge ~/.Xresources" - which I had not run in years | 00:04 |
| SamYaple | mordred: i did not see delegate_to! that explains it | 00:04 |
| SamYaple | mordred: i normally use local_action: instead since delegate_to uses ssh | 00:04 |
| SamYaple | local_action uses the local connection type | 00:04 |
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| mgagne | anything weird going on with zuul/nodepool? | 00:05 |
| jeblair | mordred: i'm 9.19-1 | 00:05 |
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| mordred | jeblair: 9.20-1+b1 | 00:05 |
| jeblair | mordred: but i'm not using weechat, nor do i have an xft font i like, so maybe clarkb would be more useful for comparison | 00:05 |
| mordred | SamYaple: nod | 00:05 |
| clarkb | mgagne: not that I hvae noticed, what are you seeing? | 00:05 |
| mgagne | clarkb funny lines: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status | 00:05 |
| fungi | at least for xterm, i've actually found that vl gothic is highly readable for me (it's hard to find dyslexia-friendly fonts that work well in a terminal) and has good japanese glyph coverage too | 00:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: I just checked and ya its still not happy (urxvt on trusty) | 00:06 |
| SamYaple | mordred: and fyi, not that im recommending it, but if you want tasks to run on the ansible host and then on the destination host in the _same_ _task_ you can build an action_plugin | 00:06 |
| mordred | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/483947 | 00:06 |
| clarkb | mgagne: using droid sans mono | 00:06 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's my .Xresources file | 00:06 |
| clarkb | er mordred ^ | 00:06 |
| jroll | mordred: I have success with urxvt + weechat but unsure what's different | 00:06 |
| jeblair | mgagne: i agree there are some flat lines about. | 00:06 |
| mgagne | jeblair is it dead yet? :D | 00:06 |
| clarkb | oh looking at graphs (I was ust looking at the log file and my experience trying to build an image in hpcloud | 00:07 |
| mordred | jroll: you using xft fonts? | 00:07 |
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| jroll | mordred: URxvt.font: xft:Source Code Pro | 00:07 |
| jeblair | jroll: did you see the gertty excitement above? we have clickable links in urxvt now with http://paste.openstack.org/show/483944/ and https://review.openstack.org/267831 | 00:07 |
| mordred | jroll: and it doesn't look weird? | 00:07 |
| jroll | jeblair: indeed :D | 00:07 |
| jroll | mordred: nope | 00:07 |
| mordred | hrm | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: [WIP] Use common logging for nodepool applications https://review.openstack.org/267865 | 00:08 |
| jroll | mordred: I have URxvt*letterSpace: -1 with a comment "fix font space" | 00:08 |
| jroll | seems relevant | 00:08 |
| jroll | but not sure | 00:08 |
| mordred | ooh | 00:08 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: three is a lot of Instance clarkb-test (ec46829f-f53a-4481-b3f1-eb0ffe3ae303) in hpcloud-b5 has no nodepool metadata | 00:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think that's normal | 00:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ah ok | 00:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: delete your instance and it will go away :) | 00:08 |
| mordred | jroll: you fixed it!!! | 00:08 |
| clarkb | I do see that we have nodes building and nodes used | 00:08 |
| mordred | clarkb: ^^ | 00:08 |
| jroll | O_O | 00:08 |
| jroll | \o/ | 00:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya but there are others I just used mine as an example | 00:08 |
| clarkb | mordred: jroll wat | 00:09 |
| clarkb | thats wow | 00:09 |
| jroll | right? | 00:09 |
| mordred | clarkb: URxvt*letterSpace: -1 | 00:09 |
| jroll | I spent hours on "make font rendering not suck" but I honestly have no recollection of exactly what was involved | 00:09 |
| jeblair | negative letterspacing! | 00:09 |
| clarkb | so I think we are properly building and using nodes | 00:09 |
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| clarkb | allocation just happened so that is running | 00:10 |
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| clarkb | maybe its just the graphite things? | 00:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix regex used for neutron non-doc jobs https://review.openstack.org/267867 | 00:10 |
| clarkb | could be we got a package update that broke it | 00:10 |
| mgagne | clarkb and stats are missing for the past ~2h: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/nodepool-internap | 00:10 |
| clarkb | no most recent release was from october | 00:11 |
| jeblair | clarkb: zuul and logstash have graphs | 00:11 |
| clarkb | mgagne: ya thats about when I rstarted the daemon | 00:11 |
| jeblair | clarkb, greghaynes: (for later -- it looks like we're making a gearman connection for nodepool list which i think should be unecessary -- maybe we can do that only for the commands that need it?) | 00:11 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: do you know off the top of your head if we touched anything related to stats? | 00:12 |
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| clarkb | I don't recall but am about ot start filterint thorugh git log -p | 00:13 |
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| jeblair | i'm tcpdumping and i don't see any traffic to graphite.o.o | 00:13 |
| jroll | mordred: now you owe me a tip, how do I reload .xresources without reloading x? | 00:13 |
| jeblair | from nodepool | 00:13 |
| clarkb | looks like statsd stuff was moved for image building | 00:13 |
| clarkb | I wonder if we are now importing it too early or something | 00:13 |
| jeblair | jroll: xrdb -merge .xresources | 00:14 |
| clarkb | (statsd is bad and does import time magic) | 00:14 |
| fungi | jeblair: xrdb -load or -merge | 00:14 |
| jroll | aha, ty | 00:14 |
| mordred | jroll: ^^ | 00:14 |
| fungi | er, yeah jroll | 00:14 |
| mordred | jroll: I think I still owe you a tip | 00:14 |
| jeblair | i don't know who owes whom now | 00:14 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: kind of, I tried not to change it but some stats code was moved | 00:14 |
| jroll | heh | 00:14 |
| mordred | jeblair: DUDE | 00:15 |
| mordred | this is the best thin gever | 00:15 |
| * jroll puts a bunch of beers on the table and calls it good | 00:15 | |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Report actual error in error message https://review.openstack.org/267869 | 00:15 |
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| clarkb | so thats my current theory at least that statsd import moved and is too early for import time things to work propoerly | 00:16 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: hrm. That's :( | 00:17 |
| anteaya | gus: ha ha ha, you don't want much do you | 00:17 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: greghaynes noticed there was not logging for nodepool-builders -d, working on a patch | 00:17 |
| greghaynes | Iirc what it does at import time is just DNS lookup | 00:17 |
| gus | anteaya: :P | 00:17 |
| greghaynes | pabelanger: ah, ty | 00:17 |
| anteaya | gus: it strikes me as funny | 00:17 |
| clarkb | ya I think thats it patch soon | 00:18 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: oh, I wonder if it is not thread safe in some way | 00:18 |
| clarkb | no I think its thread safe the issue is that the global it uses to connect to isn't set when we import | 00:18 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: you will like the fix | 00:18 |
| greghaynes | Uh oh | 00:19 |
| * mordred looks forward to the fix | 00:19 | |
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| gus | I was peripherally involved in a project a _long_ time ago, and one of the more active devs was incredibly strict on error messages. I wish everyone learnt the same rules ("If it is an error, it must say 'error', it must include what you were trying to do, it must include what you were trying to do it to, it must include what went wrong") | 00:19 |
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| jeblair | greghaynes, clarkb: it's supposed to log whether it's reporting to statsd or not, but there is no such log line in production | 00:19 |
| gus | (and if you're taking some mitigating steps, you should say what they are, eg "trying again", "continuing without ...", etc) | 00:20 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: I wonder if that is related to what pabelanger mentioned about logging not working in the builders | 00:20 |
| jroll | jeblair: not to interrupt but gertty: error: unrecognized arguments: --open | 00:20 |
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| jeblair | jroll: you'll need to check out https://review.openstack.org/267831 | 00:21 |
| fungi | jroll: are you running with that proposed patch | 00:21 |
| fungi | ? | 00:21 |
| jroll | aha | 00:21 |
| fungi | yeah, that one | 00:21 |
| jeblair | or cherry-pick | 00:21 |
| jroll | saw the paste, missed the patch, thanks | 00:21 |
| jeblair | jroll: (careful with checkout -- it's at the tip of a series with a db migration) | 00:21 |
| jroll | heh, thanks for heads up | 00:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Import nodepool.builder late for statsd https://review.openstack.org/267873 | 00:21 |
| fungi | i backed up my db before doing it, but it migrated fine for me | 00:21 |
| jeblair | though it's looking stable enough at this point | 00:21 |
| clarkb | jeblair: greghaynes ^ I think that is what we need | 00:22 |
| clarkb | note that nodepool.nodepool import happens late | 00:22 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ugh. I will definitely try and find another way | 00:22 |
| mordred | gus: ++ | 00:22 |
| pabelanger | greghaynes: I am testing 267865 atm | 00:22 |
| greghaynes | Late imports are literally the worst thing ever | 00:23 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: yes | 00:23 |
| pabelanger | logging, is logging | 00:23 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: jeblair your eyes are requested on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262631/ | 00:23 |
| mordred | jeblair: the fun part is- because of how gertty stacks review opens | 00:23 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: ill fix the nodeool thing now | 00:24 |
| mordred | jeblair: I keep a natural history of any link I clicked open | 00:24 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: so, any idea what specifically causes that? | 00:24 |
| jeblair | mordred: stacks are the best | 00:24 |
| mordred | jeblair: also - C-del is brilliant | 00:24 |
| jeblair | mordred: i just typed it myself! | 00:24 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ya Ithink if we git blame the other late import we will get all the details | 00:24 |
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| pabelanger | Ooh, nodepool-builder worked! | 00:24 |
| pabelanger | on a remote machine to boot | 00:24 |
| pabelanger | niiice | 00:24 |
| anteaya | gus: sounds like debugging in that environment was very friendly | 00:25 |
| greghaynes | pabelanger: :) | 00:25 |
| fungi | nibalizer: seems fine to me | 00:25 |
| clarkb | aha! | 00:25 |
| pabelanger | greghaynes: great work | 00:25 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: its because of daemonization | 00:25 |
| mordred | jeblair: I have now moved my IRC window into a new uxrvt window - and the other terminal that I had with an IRC tab and a vpn tab now has a gertty tab and a vpn tab | 00:25 |
| gus | anteaya: yes indeed, particularly operationally. | 00:25 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: the fds are all closed | 00:25 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: we aren't demonizing here | 00:25 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: so if we can get the fds from the statsd module we can pass them to daemonize and avoid that I think | 00:25 |
| fungi | nibalizer: though i missed we were running out of space on that server | 00:25 |
| anteaya | gus: ah sounds nice | 00:25 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: git show a641ac52a9c610d01a2231f32bdf33ff4bd9e32c | 00:25 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I suspect you are on the right track though | 00:25 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: I do think it is related to import then thread | 00:26 |
| mordred | "Note: Using ~/.Xdefaults is deprecated, so this article will only refer to resources loaded with xrdb" | 00:26 |
| mordred | what? | 00:26 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: yup thats exactly what it is | 00:26 |
| nibalizer | fungi: part of the issue is the huge reports on a couple nodes | 00:26 |
| mordred | why would .Xdefaults be DEPRECATED????? | 00:26 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: it opens the socket at import time, then we daemonize and close the fd | 00:26 |
| mordred | what is wrong with people? | 00:26 |
| nibalizer | I pushed up fixes for some of the more terrible ones | 00:26 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: so we might be able to re-init it after import? | 00:26 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: if we want to not close the fd we can pss it to daemonize as a leave me alone arg assuming we can get the fd | 00:26 |
| anteaya | mordred: feel like helping gus get an actual error message? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267869/1 | 00:26 |
| fungi | mordred: .Xresources is the new thing | 00:26 |
| nibalizer | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:diskspace | 00:27 |
| mordred | fungi: they've both been around for like 20 years | 00:27 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: or, honestly, writing a statsd module which doesn't do this would take about 10min | 00:27 |
| greghaynes | It is just simple udp | 00:27 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I have a ... weird feature request/suggestion for gertty now | 00:27 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: meh late import works now | 00:27 |
| jeblair | greghaynes, clarkb: double check that the existing statsd module dosn't already do this | 00:27 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: late imports are a big tech debt though | 00:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: an optional depend on pynotify or whatever does libnotify things - and when you get a --open - emit a notify message saying "opening $URL" ... largely because there is no UI feedback when I click a link to let me konw it worked | 00:28 |
| jeblair | greghaynes, clarkb: i believe it can be used in an approach with an explicit object construction rather than the implicit one. | 00:28 |
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| greghaynes | Ya, if we can just re-init it that'd be awesome | 00:28 |
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| jeblair | mordred: maybe we could have gertty throw something in the status bar? | 00:29 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i imagine it's mostly when it's syncing a change that's an issue...? | 00:29 |
| fungi | mordred: .Xresources needs xrdb to parse, which deals with multiple displays sanely. you _can_ parse .Xdefaults with xrdb as a workaround, though it was historically assumed that .Xdefaults was read directly by the xserver... i'm looking for a good description of the current situation now | 00:29 |
| jroll | woohoo, the system works | 00:29 |
| jroll | jeblair: yeah, sync lag feels weird | 00:29 |
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| jroll | it's fine if the change is synced | 00:30 |
| jeblair | mordred, jroll: probably if the sync counter wasn't off-by-one that would be better too :) | 00:30 |
| fungi | er, .Xdefaults read when client programs start under the xserver, i should have said | 00:30 |
| jeblair | (it doesn't count the currently running sync task; programming is hard) | 00:31 |
| clarkb | so we could wrap it up in nodepool/stats | 00:31 |
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| clarkb | but https://github.com/jsocol/pystatsd/blob/v3.2.1/statsd/defaults/env.py is what we import so we could also just copy pasta that I think | 00:31 |
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| anteaya | gus: was that project open source? | 00:31 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, greghaynes: see gear for statsd usage without statsd.env | 00:32 |
| greghaynes | Awesome | 00:32 |
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| fungi | mordred: http://superuser.com/questions/243914/xresources-or-xdefaults has a pretty sane explanation of what's what | 00:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Retain only 5 days of puppet reports on puppetmaster https://review.openstack.org/262631 | 00:33 |
| anteaya | anyone want to increase internap servers from 24 to 36? mgagne is +1 now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266468/ | 00:34 |
| mgagne | anteaya and I added a new compute node to capacity 15 seconds ago | 00:34 |
| jeblair | mgagne, anteaya: can we wait until we have stats again? | 00:34 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: are you going to write fix for doing it like gear? | 00:35 |
| mgagne | jeblair no rush, heading out of office now to ski and I'm off tomorrow too | 00:35 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ya, I can later | 00:35 |
| greghaynes | Can't code ATM | 00:35 |
| mgagne | jeblair should still be safe to increase quota though | 00:35 |
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| anteaya | mgagne: awesome | 00:36 |
| anteaya | jeblair: of course, sorry I wasn't paying attention | 00:36 |
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| gus | anteaya: FreeSWAN, in its early days (1999ish). I can't find one of the email threads where it was succinctly described, but see discussions like https://progressive-comp.com/?l=linux-ipsec&m=93827430006759&w=4 | 00:37 |
| jeblair | anteaya: np -- i mean, we *can* do it now, just might be nicer when we're looking at data later | 00:38 |
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| fungi | yeah, would be nice to have stats being trended again so we can see a before and after of the quota bump | 00:39 |
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| adam_g | greghaynes, any chance theres a DIB release in the pipeline to include https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267271/ ? | 00:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Nodepool image build workers https://review.openstack.org/240093 | 00:41 |
| mordred | fungi: ah - thanks | 00:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Wallace proposed openstack-infra/shade: Save the adminPass if returned on server create https://review.openstack.org/266532 | 00:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: remove nova-commit-message job https://review.openstack.org/259569 | 00:42 |
| anteaya | gus: interesting | 00:43 |
| ianw | clarkb / pabelanger: I've got https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229232/ out there for updating statsd to 3.0 in zuul, removing the global state thing. i can do a similar thing for nodepool | 00:43 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I'm fine leaving it up to you to approve when you like | 00:43 |
| clarkb | ianw: that would be helpful | 00:44 |
| ianw | i'm pretty sure i updated nodepool to 3.0, and IIRC the reason i left it alone was just to avoid too much churn for little reason | 00:44 |
| anteaya | and yes optimal merging is when we can watch progress | 00:44 |
| anteaya | gus: I'll try to remember the name | 00:45 |
| anteaya | Hugh Redelmeier if I ever get to view or run his code | 00:45 |
| kashyap | review.openstack.org is down -- did I miss a memo (haven't read the mailing list, just opened computer after 10 hrs of afk) | 00:46 |
| kashyap | No, actually it's not - please ignore me. | 00:46 |
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| reed | aptira's RSS feed is borked and monopolizing planet, yet again | 00:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments https://review.openstack.org/267764 | 00:52 |
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| clarkb | jjb update on jenkins01 is still going | 00:53 |
| jeblair | reed: want to yank them from the file? i'll instapprove | 00:53 |
| reed | jeblair, I'd rather avoid such drastic measure myself since I | 00:54 |
| reed | I'm a candidate too | 00:54 |
| reed | but it's a bit annoying to realize that their feed has been broken for as long as I can remember | 00:54 |
| jeblair | reed: is it borked or did they just post a bunch of things? | 00:54 |
| reed | usually I don't notice but now they've had 5 posts on top for a while | 00:55 |
| jeblair | oh! | 00:55 |
| clarkb | finally have an snapshot image build running on hpcloud now | 00:55 |
| jeblair | reed: they posted in the future | 00:55 |
| reed | on | 00:55 |
| reed | oh | 00:55 |
| jeblair | reed: their dates are jan 16 | 00:55 |
| reed | I didn't realize that | 00:55 |
| jeblair | reed: which, to be fair, they do live in the future. | 00:55 |
| reed | it's not the 16th in Australia? | 00:55 |
| clarkb | Its not even jan 16 on that side of the planet | 00:55 |
| reed | ah | 00:55 |
| clarkb | its the 15th | 00:55 |
| jeblair | yeah, not that much in the future though | 00:55 |
| clarkb | around noon | 00:56 |
| clarkb | (for east coast) | 00:56 |
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| clarkb | maybe they have an off by 12 hours problem and treat local time as utc? | 00:56 |
| anteaya | that's a new one | 00:56 |
| jeblair | this probably calls for a 'hey, can you look into your timezone' message rather than a yank | 00:56 |
| reed | yeah | 00:57 |
| anteaya | I support that as a start | 00:57 |
| reed | OpenStack Election 2016: Reason 5 to vote for Kavit – Beer | 00:57 |
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| reed | tacky | 00:57 |
| anteaya | that is one of their posts? | 00:57 |
| reed | yep | 00:57 |
| anteaya | yeah the whole vote for me bit is disappointing | 00:57 |
| anteaya | I saw a post to operators with a vote for me | 00:57 |
| anteaya | so sad | 00:58 |
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| jeblair | i wish i could vote for more than one candidate :( | 00:58 |
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| anteaya | me too | 00:58 |
| anteaya | so sad that still isn't fixed | 00:58 |
| tonyb | Do we have any way of measuring the performance of nodes we're allocated? I *feel* like I'm seeing more timeoute failures these days | 00:58 |
| reed | you can't? | 00:58 |
| jeblair | reed: not if you want any of your candidates to win | 00:58 |
| reed | don't you get 8 votes to spread around? | 00:58 |
| reed | ah, yeah | 00:58 |
| jeblair | because most of the voters are giving "their" candidate all 8 of their votes | 00:59 |
| jeblair | it's the worst system ever | 00:59 |
| anteaya | agreed | 00:59 |
| mordred | yup | 00:59 |
| anteaya | tonyb: well you can stare at this a bit: http://grafana.openstack.org/ | 00:59 |
| mordred | it is, in fact, designed to incentivize not spreading your votes | 00:59 |
| reed | that... you know, I dug out the reports from the election committee from those times but ... I didn't find a clear announcement that no other system but cumulative is allowed | 00:59 |
| clarkb | wasnt it semi dictated by existing corporate bylaws in delaware? | 00:59 |
| anteaya | tonyb: it is pretty but I don't know if it gets you want you want | 01:00 |
| mordred | clarkb: no | 01:00 |
| mordred | clarkb: it's dictated currently by risk aversion | 01:00 |
| clarkb | mordred: ah | 01:00 |
| reed | clarkb, exactly, there was no result published by the board after setting up the committee | 01:00 |
| anteaya | tonyb: I'm guessing you know about the openstack-health dashboard, yeah? | 01:00 |
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| reed | at least I didn't find the results of that conversation | 01:00 |
| anteaya | tonyb: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 01:00 |
| mordred | there is no legal precedent already set in delaware for an org of our stature to use a different method | 01:00 |
| tonyb | anteaya: yeah I don't think this will bee visibe there | 01:00 |
| mordred | and this is a potential risk vector that various people feels outweighs the benefit | 01:00 |
| clarkb | mordred: gotcha, nothing says we couldn't CIVS, there just isn't precedent to ride on | 01:01 |
| jeblair | i would give all 8 of my votes to a candidate that ran on a platform of doing something about that :) | 01:01 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's right | 01:01 |
| tonyb | anteaya: I'll look at http://grafana.openstack.org | 01:01 |
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| anteaya | tonyb: oh good, may you have so much fun there that you forget why you went there :) | 01:01 |
| jeblair | mordred: 'of our stature' ? | 01:01 |
| mordred | clarkb: and last time we tried, we basically could not get enough board members excited enough about the topic to overcome the inertia of risk aversion | 01:01 |
| clarkb | we could set it up like jury summons | 01:01 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes - there are some non-delaware non-profits who have used condorcet | 01:01 |
| tonyb | anteaya: that would ba a good outcome | 01:01 |
| clarkb | for the lols | 01:02 |
| anteaya | tonyb: agreed | 01:02 |
| mordred | but none of them are large-enough to be attack vectors | 01:02 |
| jeblair | mordred: i thought there were delaware ones. | 01:02 |
| anteaya | clarkb: that's a thought | 01:02 |
| mordred | for people trying to achieve political goals by challenging the legal legitimacy of the board elections | 01:02 |
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| clarkb | huh in oregon you can be excused from jury duty if you are 70 or older | 01:07 |
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| clarkb | puppet succeeded on the image build I am running | 01:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for neutronclient deprecation bug 1533638 https://review.openstack.org/267880 | 01:08 |
| openstack | bug 1533638 in neutron "test_bash_completion fails due to deprecation warning generated by neutronclient" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533638 - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 01:08 |
| clarkb | mriedem: that sounds like a fun bug | 01:08 |
| mriedem | clarkb: already fixed | 01:08 |
| mriedem | just categorizing it | 01:08 |
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| lifeless | mriedem: so I'm curious | 01:10 |
| lifeless | mriedem: would a faster thing have been to lower upper-constraints again, unblocking the gate,then fix the neutron tests? | 01:10 |
| lifeless | mriedem: or no diff ? | 01:10 |
| mriedem | lifeless: i wasn't actually involved in this fix | 01:10 |
| lifeless | k | 01:10 |
| mriedem | it's the thing that carl_baldwin was raising in the -dev list | 01:11 |
| lifeless | yah | 01:11 |
| mriedem | i think they just realized that neutron shouldn't unit test neutronclient | 01:11 |
| mriedem | and this exposed it | 01:11 |
| lifeless | I didn't want to side-track that conversation | 01:11 |
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| greghaynes | adam_g: ya, once I get home I'll release | 01:12 |
| greghaynes | adam_g: 30ish min | 01:12 |
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| fungi | i gave all 8 of my votes to a candidate who i think is most likely to do something about the risk aversion to sane elections problem | 01:14 |
| anteaya | excellent choice | 01:14 |
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| anteaya | let's hope said candidate should they serve, grasps that mandate and makes progress | 01:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for neutronclient deprecation bug 1533638 https://review.openstack.org/267880 | 01:19 |
| openstack | bug 1533638 in neutron "test_bash_completion fails due to deprecation warning generated by neutronclient" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533638 - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 01:19 |
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| anteaya | ianw: how are you feeling about this patch, should it still stay alive? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179329/ | 01:24 |
| anteaya | ianw: if yes, can you leave a comment on it to help us understand its value? | 01:24 |
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| anteaya | ianw: its dependencies have merged | 01:25 |
| ianw | anteaya: i guess you can abandon it, i will get back to it one day. i have other changes out there for testing that actually force neutron on for centos | 01:26 |
| sdake | jeblair ping | 01:27 |
| anteaya | Did you want to leave a note for the abandon or just abandon? | 01:27 |
| sdake | re redirecting #kolla to #openstack-kolla | 01:27 |
| sdake | SamYaple indicated you took ownership of the openstack-kolla channel | 01:27 |
| sdake | SamYaple is going to take on the responsibility of getting us a redirect setup to openstack-kolla | 01:28 |
| sdake | jeblair can you work with him on that ? | 01:28 |
| anteaya | ianw: great thank you | 01:29 |
| SamYaple | jeblair: if I remember correctly the person that does the redirect must be the original founder of the channel (#kolla) and also a founder of the channel to rediect to (#openstack-kolla). That means youll need to add rhallisey as founder to #openstack-kolla | 01:29 |
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| sdake | jeblair fwiw you have kolla community permission to do what is needed to make this change :) | 01:31 |
| sdake | jeblair SamYaple will handle the project config setup | 01:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Import nodepool.builder late for statsd https://review.openstack.org/267873 | 01:31 |
| jeblair | SamYaple, sdake: i'm a bit past eod today, can we work on it tomorrow? also, as long as openstackinfra has access (which i think it does), other infra folks may be able to help too (i think pleia2 has recently done some forwards?) | 01:31 |
| sdake | jeblair all we need i think from you is the addition of rhallisey | 01:31 |
| sdake | jeblair no rush at all | 01:31 |
| jeblair | sdake: cool, thx | 01:31 |
| SamYaple | jeblair: da, no rush take care | 01:32 |
| sdake | jeblair i just wantedt o make it clear the work is authorized from my end | 01:32 |
| sdake | tia | 01:32 |
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| jeblair | sdake: got it | 01:33 |
| anteaya | so this patch asserts that an updated project description in project-config/gerrit/projects.yaml needs a manual update from the infra team to change the project description on github: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267549/3 | 01:34 |
| anteaya | is that accurate? | 01:34 |
| sdake | jeblair its a good thing you were on the ball with openstack-kolla | 01:35 |
| sdake | someone is camping the channel atm :) | 01:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Don't use global statsd https://review.openstack.org/267885 | 01:37 |
| ianw | greghaynes / clarkb : ^ removal of the statsd global | 01:37 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Fix off-by-one in sync counter https://review.openstack.org/267886 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Display a message when interactively syncing https://review.openstack.org/267887 | 01:39 |
| jeblair | mordred, jroll: let me know if those 2 changes help with the feedback around remote open ^ | 01:40 |
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| jroll | jeblair: yes, very much. thanks! | 01:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add OSprofiler to PROJECTs https://review.openstack.org/267889 | 01:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Prepare neutron-lib for pypi releases https://review.openstack.org/267156 | 01:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/gertty: Add vi mode navigation https://review.openstack.org/267890 | 01:49 |
| jroll | that one is for dougwig :D | 01:50 |
| dougwig | jroll: ) | 01:50 |
| dougwig | :) | 01:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting dj1.9 test to django-openstack-auth https://review.openstack.org/266878 | 01:51 |
| StevenK | lifeless: They're both pushed up, blocked on dstufft reviewing the packaging changes | 01:52 |
| lifeless | StevenK: k, I'll prod him some | 01:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs-on-rtfd hook for solar project https://review.openstack.org/267558 | 01:53 |
| anteaya | sdake: you want to have a pass at this latest patchset? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266674/ | 01:55 |
| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: can you comment on this patch to skip a sahara test? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267561/2 | 01:57 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: it feels a bit odd to me | 01:57 |
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| sdake | anteaya sorry had a mini emergency | 02:03 |
| sdake | you want me to review that yo umean? | 02:03 |
| anteaya | sdake: no worries | 02:03 |
| anteaya | sdake: yes please, you had some concerns during the review process | 02:03 |
| anteaya | sdake: I'd like to give you a chance to see the current patchset | 02:04 |
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| pleia2 | SamYaple: past EOD for me too, but we have documented the rename procedure once you have the access you need (or you can ask one of us to do it) http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html#renaming-an-irc-channel | 02:10 |
| greghaynes | adam_g: tag pushed | 02:10 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: ok, so builders are good aside from the logging, gearman for listing, and statsd issues? | 02:13 |
| greghaynes | (back at computer now) | 02:13 |
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| greghaynes | If that's it I can review patches | 02:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments https://review.openstack.org/267764 | 02:17 |
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| SamYaple | pleia2: good to know | 02:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | IWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/requirements: Bump ryu to 3.29.1 https://review.openstack.org/264026 | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Always sync a specfically queried change https://review.openstack.org/267898 | 02:31 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Always sync a specfically queried change https://review.openstack.org/267898 | 02:31 |
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| sdake | anteaya sorry conclusion of hte mini-emergency | 02:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add ansible as a dependency https://review.openstack.org/266065 | 02:32 |
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| sdake | reviewing now | 02:32 |
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| sdake | anteaya concerns addressed thanks :) | 02:33 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes fron what I see so far ya | 02:34 |
| clarkb | minimal issues | 02:34 |
| jeblair | clarkb, greghaynes: the workaround merged should we restart now? | 02:35 |
| clarkb | sure though I have sleeping kid in lap | 02:35 |
| clarkb | so not super useful | 02:35 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i have confidence i can revert quickly, i'll do it :) | 02:36 |
| clarkb | kk | 02:36 |
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| jeblair | tcpdump shows statsd traffic | 02:37 |
| jeblair | (after restart) | 02:37 |
| clarkb | can you check shade version too? | 02:37 |
| clarkb | I think 1.4.0 has rax image upload fix | 02:37 |
| jeblair | shade==1.4.0 | 02:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh what was prob? | 02:37 |
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| clarkb | token would expire and never refresh for swiftclient | 02:38 |
| jeblair | ah | 02:38 |
| clarkb | so first upload after restart was fine but those after failed | 02:38 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, greghaynes: things lgtm | 02:40 |
| clarkb | since rax is the only one that uses swift for images it was the only one affected | 02:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair awesome | 02:41 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: awesome! | 02:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul: Add ansible as a dependency https://review.openstack.org/266065 | 02:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Document urxvt clickable links https://review.openstack.org/267901 | 02:49 |
| jeblair | for reals now | 02:49 |
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| * dims peeks to see if anything interesting is happening :) | 02:50 | |
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| anteaya | sdake: thank you | 02:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.i18n to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/257679 | 03:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: add py27 py34 docs check for kolla project https://review.openstack.org/266674 | 03:08 |
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| sdake | is 3.70 a square foot good price ot install tile? | 03:10 |
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| clarkb | no idea, but having installed tile before I recommend paying someone else to do it | 03:12 |
| jeblair | sdake: that sounds too good actually | 03:13 |
| sdake | well the tile is 4$ a square foot, this guy quoated me 3800 for 1041 sq ft | 03:13 |
| jeblair | though i like installing tile, so that's usually a diy for me | 03:13 |
| sdake | so 8k total | 03:14 |
| sdake | he is in good standing at the tile company | 03:14 |
| sdake | and hte tile company is highly rated by the bbb | 03:15 |
| sdake | and comes recommended from several friends | 03:15 |
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| sdake | just so hard to tell if getting ripped offor not | 03:15 |
| jeblair | no idea how accurate this is -- http://www.homewyse.com/services/cost_to_install_tile_floor.html | 03:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair I am bad at setting up the pipeline of making sure everuthing is ready for the next step | 03:15 |
| clarkb | and it always takes forever | 03:16 |
| sdake | although he has to work only on bare concrete, no demo work required | 03:16 |
| sdake | so maybe thats why teh deal is so good | 03:16 |
| anteaya | sdake: have you seen his work anywhere else? | 03:16 |
| sdake | nope | 03:17 |
| sdake | but to get on this list of contractors at arizona tile is no mean feat | 03:17 |
| sdake | as in, its hard to get on the list | 03:17 |
| sdake | they only have 12 contractors on the list | 03:17 |
| sdake | and arizona tile said they have extremely rigorous standards for their listed contractors | 03:18 |
| sdake | whatever that means :) | 03:18 |
| anteaya | my cat has walked across my keyboard and now not all my keys work as I expect :( | 03:18 |
| anteaya | I'd ask to speak to former customer | 03:18 |
| anteaya | one that had bare concrete as a base | 03:18 |
| sdake | tile is pretty easy to isntall | 03:19 |
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| anteaya | I disagree | 03:19 |
| anteaya | tile in a very smooth surface with straight edges is easy to install | 03:19 |
| sdake | hard to install? :) | 03:19 |
| anteaya | tricky | 03:19 |
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| sdake | yup that is what he is working with, square rooms | 03:20 |
| anteaya | flat open surface is fine | 03:20 |
| jeblair | the best thing about diying is it really helps you appreciate the skills of good craftspeople :) | 03:20 |
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| clarkb | jeblair ++ | 03:20 |
| sdake | jeblair i do, thtas why I am paying a contractor :) | 03:20 |
| anteaya | finishing is tricky | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Connection names for legacy configs https://review.openstack.org/267907 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Fix documentation example https://review.openstack.org/267908 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add vim swap files to .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/267909 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add exception handler to updateBuildDescriptions https://review.openstack.org/267910 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Use git.openstack.org everywhere https://review.openstack.org/267911 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Bump pbr minimum version, to avoid testrepository requirement https://review.openstack.org/267912 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Bump APScheduler to >=3.0 https://review.openstack.org/267913 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Deprecated tox -downloadcache option removed https://review.openstack.org/267914 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Remove webob requirements cap https://review.openstack.org/267915 | 03:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Fix regression in change tracking https://review.openstack.org/267916 | 03:21 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: thank you | 03:21 |
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| jhesketh | oh that's just bringing the changes from master into v3 | 03:21 |
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| jhesketh | jeblair: is there a better way of keeping v3 in sync with master that doesn't require effectively cherry-picking? | 03:22 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: we can do merge commits | 03:22 |
| jhesketh | if we merge master into zuulv3 we have to force a push directly as gerrit will otherwise do a rebase no? | 03:23 |
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| jhesketh | or can we just skip that part of git review | 03:23 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: there's enough churn that some of them will require resolution | 03:23 |
| jhesketh | yes, there were 3 conflicts there | 03:23 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: i belive git review will do the correct thing (nothing) if you push a merge commit, nothing special needed | 03:23 |
| jhesketh | hmm it was trying to do a rebase | 03:24 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: try this next time: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#merge-master-into-feature-branch | 03:24 |
| jeblair | now i'm going to go read about refrigerators | 03:26 |
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| jhesketh | jeblair: I think the -R might have just been the part I was missing (to stop git-review from rebasing) | 03:27 |
| jhesketh | I'll play with that thanks :-) | 03:27 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: ah, looks like i was wrong about that part, sorry :( | 03:27 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: I like my new refrigerator | 03:29 |
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| anteaya | it actually stops running occasionally | 03:29 |
| jhesketh | jeblair: hmm, it still wants to push each commit as its own change (even without a rebase) | 03:30 |
| anteaya | an improvement over the prior one | 03:30 |
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| jhesketh | jeblair: so unless I'm missing something, we can either review each change again where it's identical to the master and then the merge commit fixes the conflicts, or we can rebase/cherry-pick (like my earlier uploads) where a change that conflicts is fixed as we go | 03:31 |
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| craige | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/doc-publishing.html is actually an interesting spec jhesketh. I will consider volunteering, later :-D | 06:12 |
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| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, hi | 08:29 |
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| changzhi | hi all, could someone take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267296/? i create a new project named stetho. stetho is a network inspection tool for openstack ;-) | 08:41 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: reading backscroll: I review for voting in check and gate as well as default - but if there's a convincing argument for check only in the *commit message* I will +2, voting only in check is the exception and needs quite a convincing argument. | 09:01 |
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| AJaeger | tdurakov_: hi | 09:26 |
| tdurakov_ | left comment for you, have you seen it? | 09:27 |
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| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, ^ | 09:28 |
| AJaeger | tdurakov_: on which change? | 09:29 |
| AJaeger | better let me double check... | 09:29 |
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| AJaeger | 669? | 09:29 |
| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, yes | 09:29 |
| AJaeger | tdurakov_: if there's more than one regex, the order is important - and with your chnage as is, you need to change the order. | 09:30 |
| AJaeger | Still, I don't think this is the right approach doing it. Please discuss also with sdague who has both infra and nova knowledge. Duplicating all these skip-ifs does not scale. So, let's get it right once... | 09:31 |
| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, could you clarify, not sure I understand what order do you mean | 09:32 |
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| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, to highlight the problem: now I'm working on hook for this job, and to trigger this one to be started I have to make change in nova/compute/api.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252283/83 | 09:34 |
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| AJaeger | tdurakov_: the order of the skip-if sections in the file is important. | 09:37 |
| AJaeger | Have a look at gate-project-config-layout output and see what kind of conditions are applied to it, right now your change is doing nothing at all. | 09:37 |
| AJaeger | tdurakov_: I understand the problem but I'm not convinced yet that duplicating the skip-if is the proper solution. This does not scale at all. | 09:38 |
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| AJaeger | So, let's ask sdague to check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267669/ and 252283 and comment on it | 09:39 |
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| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, ok, any ideas how to make things clearer, or wait for Sean first? | 09:40 |
| AJaeger | tdurakov_: wait for sdague first | 09:40 |
| tdurakov_ | AJaeger, acked | 09:40 |
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| sileht | AJaeger, Can you take a looks to, plz ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267983/ | 10:21 |
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| sileht | AJaeger, sorry wrong chan and wrong person | 10:23 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: sorry for -W on stetho, I just did a google search and wanted to bring that up... | 11:13 |
| yolanda | no probs | 11:14 |
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| dims | sdague : the main churn in gate is neutron related? | 11:24 |
| dims | sdague : good morning | 11:25 |
| sdague | dims: don't know, and I'm kind of buried in this unwind of nova test code right now, so I'm probably not going to look very soon | 11:25 |
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| dims | sdague : ack. yesterday afternoon we were 5 hours deep, now it's 14. will see if i spot anything. thanks! | 11:26 |
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| dtantsur | hi folks! could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264168/ ? this gate update for ironic-inspector has been around for a week already. Thanks! | 11:39 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261982 needs neutron infra liason, doesn't it? | 12:02 |
| yolanda | oh, missed that one... i put comments in a pair but didn't notice it, sorry | 12:02 |
| yolanda | i just -1 | 12:02 |
| AJaeger | no worries... | 12:03 |
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| yolanda | i'm still falling in the networking ones, they also are related with neutron... | 12:03 |
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| zeih | AJaeger: are you around? | 12:15 |
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| AJaeger | zeih: a few more minutes - so, please be quick... | 12:15 |
| zeih | okay | 12:15 |
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| zeih | regarding https://review.openstack.org/268063 | 12:15 |
| zeih | this is my first commit to infra | 12:16 |
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| AJaeger | welcome, zeih ! | 12:16 |
| AJaeger | so, it passes and looks fine - you will now have a couple of jobs for your repo that you haven't used before. | 12:16 |
| AJaeger | will all those work directly? | 12:17 |
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| zeih | I think so.. how can I test this before it is merged | 12:17 |
| zeih | ? | 12:17 |
| zeih | to be sure | 12:17 |
| AJaeger | "tox -e venv python setup.py build_sphinx" for the new docs job | 12:18 |
| AJaeger | tox -e py27 for python | 12:18 |
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| AJaeger | and for check-requirements, see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/requirements/#update-requirements | 12:18 |
| AJaeger | You want to check that all requirements ouy have are in global requirements file and in the right version... | 12:19 |
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| zeih | okay I will do so | 12:19 |
| zeih | thx | 12:19 |
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| AJaeger | bitte | 12:21 |
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| changzhi | AJaeger: ping | 12:31 |
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| changzhi_ | AJaeger: in this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267296/ does the name "steth" suitable? | 12:34 |
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| AJaeger | zeih: There's no py26 test anymore | 13:11 |
| AJaeger | zeih_: regarding: nonvoting, see http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#adding-a-new-job | 13:11 |
| zeih_ | py27 | 13:11 |
| zeih_ | sry typo | 13:12 |
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| zeih_ | i just checked tox -e py27 | 13:12 |
| zeih_ | its fine | 13:12 |
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| zeih_ | but doc jobs are not necessary in this case but included in python-jobs | 13:14 |
| zeih_ | AJaeger: can I exclude doc jobs? | 13:15 |
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| AJaeger | zeih_: don't use the template "python-jobs" but add the jobs you want to run individually... | 13:16 |
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| AJaeger | So, just add gate-REPO-python27 to it if that's all you want... | 13:16 |
| AJaeger | similar to how you have the pep8 added | 13:17 |
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| zeih_ | sounds great. thats what I want | 13:17 |
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| zeih_ | AJaeger: thx | 13:18 |
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| fungi | jhesketh: following your feature branch merge commit saga from your morningtime, just to confirm... you're following steps at least similar to http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#merge-master-into-feature-branch yeah? i'll give it a try too just to see | 14:21 |
| fungi | also, did you follow through on git-review's threat to push multiple changes? it's blind to the fact that gerrit will just ignore any if the git sha still matches what was in master so those don't _actually_ get uploaded in the end | 14:23 |
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| fungi | i suppose a future welcome change to gerrit would be to have it iterate through the commits it thinks are going to be pushed and see whether gerrit already has corresponding changes with those commit shas (merged or otherwise), and then indicate those aren't going to get uploaded | 14:27 |
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| fungi | if it also displayed the gerrit "branch" associated with found commits' changes (and maybe even whether those are the latest patchsets of those changes), that might also be useful info | 14:28 |
| fungi | er, future welcome change to git-review i meant | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Sikachev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sahara-ci to sahara-scenario for verifying https://review.openstack.org/268165 | 14:42 |
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| esikachev | AJaeger: hi! | 14:44 |
| esikachev | can you merge https://review.openstack.org/268165? | 14:45 |
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| AJaeger | esikachev: let's first finish the check queue ;) | 14:48 |
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| mordred | morning fungi ! | 14:50 |
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| esikachev | AJaeger: done) | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Rudimentary Templates for Tasks https://review.openstack.org/264255 | 14:51 |
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| mordred | fungi: the top 6 changes that gerrit returns in this https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:puppet-apply are all ready to go - and I can't get any further on puppet-apply without some review friends | 14:51 |
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| changzhi_ | AJaeger: hi | 14:53 |
| fungi | mordred: aha! my gertty doesn't have ansible-puppet yet. adding | 14:53 |
| mordred | fungi: yay! | 14:54 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267296/ what about the project naming "steth" instead of "stetho" ? | 14:55 |
| fungi | huh, no i was subscribed to it... why is it not showing those changes when i query, i wonder | 14:56 |
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| fungi | oh! ansible-puppet != puppet-ansible | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch ironic-lib and python-ironicclient gates to IPA https://review.openstack.org/268176 | 14:58 |
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| fungi | that's better ;) | 14:58 |
| clarkb | one is for ansible to run puppet the other for puppet to run ansible | 14:58 |
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| mordred | yup | 14:59 |
| mordred | not confusing at all | 14:59 |
| fungi | an ouroboros of projects | 14:59 |
| odyssey4me | coolsvap|away AJaeger any chance for a vote on https://review.openstack.org/263799 ? | 15:01 |
| odyssey4me | oh, I see that russellb does all the voting on that repo :) | 15:02 |
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| russellb | all the *rubber stamping* that is | 15:03 |
| odyssey4me | haha | 15:03 |
| russellb | odyssey4me: done | 15:03 |
| odyssey4me | thanks russellb | 15:03 |
| russellb | np, thanks for the patch | 15:03 |
| russellb | maybe someday i'll get motivated to make it consume projects.yaml insteadc | 15:03 |
| russellb | but that sounds like work | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add additional repositories to OpenStack-Ansible https://review.openstack.org/263799 | 15:04 |
| odyssey4me | heh, yeah - that does sound the right approach... but there are beers to consume, and other more interesting things to do :p | 15:04 |
| russellb | exactly | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks for reading backscroll, can you help me get a sense of what you consider a convincing argument? | 15:08 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: clarkb, jeblair: Ya, landing 229232 will help with packaging efforts. | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/requirements: Bump paramiko from 1.13.0 to 1.16.0 https://review.openstack.org/268197 | 15:26 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb mordred this patch asserts a manual update to the github project description is required once this patch merges, this is new for me, is this accurate? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267549/ | 15:27 |
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| fungi | anteaya: i think clarkb suggested that addition (i vaguely recall seeing him have a discussion about something like that in here a few days ago)? if so, that may mean he was planning to do that part | 15:28 |
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| clarkb | yes, jeepyb stopped updating github descriptions to cut back on api use | 15:29 |
| anteaya | ah thank you | 15:29 |
| clarkb | since we were going well over the 5k requests per hour (I think that id the limit) | 15:29 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I leave that patch to you then to approave when you like | 15:29 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: I have to go back through commits for that. First the author needs to understand fully the risks that not adding to the gate means. and then explain why it's not good. | 15:29 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: one change that I didn't +2;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222573/ | 15:29 |
| anteaya | ah, okay yeah makes sense, thanks, I'll comment on the patch so I remember | 15:29 |
| * fungi wishes we could just stop updating github... that would _really_ cut back on api use | 15:30 | |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: I just tell all people that a change to gerrit/projects.yaml does not update github ;) | 15:30 |
| anteaya | fungi: I support that direction | 15:31 |
| clarkb | I figure updating projects.yaml is good because then if we have jeepyb do the updates again everything is happy. also tells us what they eant the string to be | 15:31 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: I didn't found quickly another example. For me a voting job only in the check queue is really an exception where I wait that many weight in... | 15:32 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: thank you, any feedback on the current check/gate situation with neutron and dougwig's explaination | 15:32 |
| anteaya | clarkb: oh I agree, we have to have a history of the change in git | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add sahara-ci to sahara-scenario for verifying https://review.openstack.org/268165 | 15:33 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: yeah that makes sense, I just didn't realize you were making exceptions there | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | and neutron does tend to wildly diverge dispite the very commited efforts of their driver team | 15:33 |
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| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239863/ is a neutron change | 15:33 |
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| esikachev | AJaeger: and this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268145/ . pls review) | 15:34 |
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| AJaeger | that one was changed since lbaas is not stable enough and let to too many gate resets AFAIR | 15:34 |
| dougwig | AJaeger, anteaya: that is correct. the change to octavia pulled in nova, which compounds many projects together. | 15:35 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267296/ the name of project be "steth", is this ok? instead of "stetho" | 15:35 |
| AJaeger | changzhi_: google for it ;) | 15:36 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: ok | 15:36 |
| * AJaeger googled and it looked fine to me | 15:36 | |
| AJaeger | changzhi_: still very similar to Facebook's stetho that does a similar thing for Android Apps than what your repo will do for Networking... | 15:37 |
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| AJaeger | changzhi_: your call - I want you to make an educated decision on the name, so that we don't need to rename it in a month... | 15:38 |
| anteaya | AJaeger dougwig well you have given me enough evidence that if I bother holding this belief i will just get stomped by the crowd but I don't feel I can get behind it | 15:38 |
| anteaya | thanks for the chat | 15:38 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: "steth" means "state of ethernet" | 15:39 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: I think we have the same belief - just for you it's black and white and for me there's a small grey area in it. I'm reviewing for voting jobs belong to check and gate. | 15:40 |
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| AJaeger | and exceptions are really excpetions that need broader review and good arguments | 15:41 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: we provide an inspection tool for networking and stetho by facebook is a debug bridge for android. it seems to me quite different | 15:41 |
| rbradfor | annegentle, AJaeger suggested I speak to you about the 403 Forbidden problem I'm having on docs.o.o | 15:41 |
| AJaeger | changzhi_: debug and inspection are related for me.... | 15:42 |
| AJaeger | changzhi_: I won't block on steth ;) | 15:42 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: thx | 15:43 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I'm having difficulty seeing the different between a good argument and a popularity contest | 15:44 |
| annegentle | rbradfor: AJaeger: I investigated on FTP side, but there's no settings there that would prevent download. So I expect it's Cloud Sites that's doing that. Ask clarkb or fungi to call Rackspace to find out the difference and if there's anything we can do. | 15:44 |
| anteaya | popularity contests don't convince me | 15:44 |
| annegentle | I don't have the security clearance on the account to call and ask myself. | 15:44 |
| annegentle | rbradfor: hope that gives you next steps | 15:44 |
| fungi | rbradfor: what was the url? | 15:45 |
| rbradfor | annegentle, thanks. | 15:45 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: not popularity contest - but a broader consensus by the team that they are aware of the risks and want to have it this way, instead of a single opinion | 15:45 |
| rbradfor | fungi, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.log/usage.html click on first examples link | 15:45 |
| AJaeger | fungi: the python file gives a 404 forbidden | 15:45 |
| anteaya | jd__: you and gordc seem to be in disagreement on 259328 and 244881, it would be great from my end if the two of you can decide if you can reach agreement and move forward on those or reach agreement and abandon those patches | 15:45 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I checked the file, permissions on file and directory look fine | 15:46 |
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| AJaeger | And locally building the doc, I can access it - just docs.o.o give a 404 | 15:46 |
| fungi | rbradfor: AJaeger: annegentle: i have a feeling this will be the case for any .py file you put there | 15:46 |
| AJaeger | fungi: my fear as well. | 15:46 |
| annegentle | yeah | 15:46 |
| jd__ | anteaya: I'll convince gordc :) | 15:46 |
| AJaeger | rbradfor: what about renaming the python files? Name them x.py.txt ? | 15:47 |
| fungi | their webserver config very well may assume .py files are intended to be handled by an interpreter backend as a sort of cgi | 15:47 |
| anteaya | jd__: go you | 15:47 |
| rbradfor | fungi, I guess gates are different, http://docs-draft.openstack.org/77/264977/3/gate/gate-oslo.log-docs/660678b//doc/build/html/usage.html works. | 15:47 |
| AJaeger | rbradfor: yes, totally different webserver! | 15:48 |
| fungi | it's certainly not going to serve it as text/plain without some extra configuration or magic file type detectio | 15:48 |
| rbradfor | fungi, that explanation makes sense | 15:48 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: awareness and acceptance of risk is useful, I agree | 15:48 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I see it in the nova patch you didn't +2 from matt | 15:48 |
| fungi | rbradfor: yeah, we very well may have something set up on the docs-drafts site that's loading apache mod_mime_magic or similar | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : rather than renaming those files, how about if we just product HTML pages with the source embedded and then link to the cgit version if someone wants to download it? | 15:48 |
| rbradfor | dhellmann, thats a good idea, I'd rather not rename files, because then you cannot run the python directly from the repo | 15:49 |
| fungi | in fact, the content is already embedded | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : right | 15:49 |
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| dhellmann | fungi : some is, not all, last I looked | 15:49 |
| fungi | so this is just a "we've included a downloadable copy of this file for you to test" sort of thing i guess | 15:49 |
| rbradfor | fungi, subsets are embedded and they work, but the linked to examples are what is not working | 15:49 |
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| AJaeger | rbradfor: let's make it simple and not include the downloadable copy... | 15:50 |
| fungi | oh, so those are just snippets from larger sources, got it | 15:50 |
| rbradfor | fungi, so I could stub a html page and fully embed the example | 15:50 |
| rbradfor | AJaeger, well, the downloadable copy is a lot larger then embedded, and I want a developer to actually read the page, not gloss over it. | 15:51 |
| krotscheck | Anyone interested in helping with the wheel mirorr reviews? THey're finally ready (I think) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:wheel_mirror+status:open | 15:51 |
| mordred | krotscheck: neat! | 15:51 |
| fungi | but general rule of thumb is that if you want something to display as text/plain on a generically configured webserver, it needs to have a .txt extension. if you want it to be rendered as html, it needs a .html extension... if you serve a file with a .py extension the default assumption of many webservers is that you want to run that somehow | 15:51 |
| krotscheck | mordred: baby steps | 15:51 |
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| AJaeger | rbradfor: I just downloaded both files and the only difference is the license header, isn't it? | 15:51 |
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| rbradfor | fungi, AJaeger annegentle thanks for the feedback, I think dhellmann has given me the right solution to both keep .py files in the repo, and display html with applicable extensions. | 15:52 |
| rbradfor | AJaeger, it's more then that. there are full examples with no embedding also. | 15:53 |
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| AJaeger | rbradfor: found them ;) | 15:53 |
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| rbradfor | AJaeger, and this is a first pass of more examples, so this first pass is a great find to identify this rendering and look for a creative solution. | 15:54 |
| AJaeger | understood | 15:55 |
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| anteaya | eharney: so this patch can't merge the way it is because the first depends on change id is used by two patches, a master and a backport: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Iaacf10141559a2c88b5873722d1e237dc9223f27,n,z | 15:56 |
| mordred | krotscheck: on the rebuild_wheel_afs_index.sh script ... | 15:56 |
| krotscheck | Yes? | 15:56 |
| mordred | krotscheck: as an fyi, you could do the find as 'find $1 -type d -mindepth 2 -maxdepth 3' | 15:56 |
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| AJaeger | I get 502 proxy errors from gerrit ;( | 15:57 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: they make me sad too | 15:57 |
| mordred | which will only give you dirs and also put requirements on depth of the things | 15:57 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Lemme go test that :) | 15:57 |
| mordred | krotscheck: what you have is fine, so I don't want to review it down - just thought I'd share in case that's useful | 15:57 |
| * krotscheck likes that idea | 15:57 | |
| AJaeger | anteaya: Iaacf10141559a2c88b5873722d1e237dc9223f27 is both merged, so there shouldn't be a problem | 15:57 |
| mordred | krotscheck: (I might be doing the math on mindepth and maxdepth wrong - so testing is important :) ) | 15:57 |
| jesusaurus | AJaeger: I just got a 502 too, but it loaded after I refreshed | 15:58 |
| * AJaeger need 4 reloads ;( | 15:58 | |
| jesusaurus | :( | 15:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Rudimentary Templates for Tasks https://review.openstack.org/264255 | 16:01 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I didn't think zuul cared whether the two dependencies were merged, I thought zuul disliked if there were two of them and it was expected to make a choice | 16:02 |
| anteaya | hence zuul not making a choice and not merging the patch to test ti | 16:02 |
| anteaya | it | 16:02 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: zuul will wait for *all* dependencies | 16:03 |
| anteaya | for context the reason I was pointing out what i saw to eharney was due to the fact that is the blocking patch on a long series that ends in a project-config patch that has been ready to merge for some time | 16:04 |
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| AJaeger | If all are merged, everything is fine. | 16:04 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: there's no difference for zuul with: | 16:04 |
| anteaya | right, but in the case of one change id used for two patches, it is my understanding zuul doens't handle that situation and stops its work on that patch | 16:04 |
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| AJaeger | Two Depends-On: lines depending on two different changes or one depends-on depending on 100s of changes ;) | 16:04 |
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| AJaeger | only with circular dependencies it stops | 16:05 |
| AJaeger | And this is not circular | 16:05 |
| AJaeger | this is what I wrote in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#limitations-and-caveats | 16:06 |
| AJaeger | "If you backport a change to another branch, the gerrit change ID stays the same. If you add a Depends-On using the Gerrit change ID of the patch that subsequently was backported, the patch with the Depends-On is now also dependent on the backported change. This might be desirable for some changes and a surprise for others." | 16:06 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: So yes, it works. It doesn't remove the need for the regex though (because as-yet-unknown random additional folder noise), so ultimately it's only a minor optimization. | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Revert "Fix discoverd bug when dmidecode reports GB" https://review.openstack.org/268212 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel mirror to mirrors https://review.openstack.org/253521 | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added extra-index-url to pip optional settings https://review.openstack.org/267751 | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel_mirror_slaves that use pypi-mirror https://review.openstack.org/165240 | 16:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project steth https://review.openstack.org/267296 | 16:10 |
| mordred | krotscheck: ah - yes - good point on the random noise | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhi Chang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project steth https://review.openstack.org/267296 | 16:12 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: so - still first coffee- walk me through something real quick ... | 16:15 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: waiting for your review ;-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267296/ | 16:15 |
| mordred | krotscheck: the first patch creates the wheel mirror dir, the cron job and the vhost to serve the wheel mirror - but it also looks like it removes the vhost serving the 'web' content | 16:16 |
| AJaeger | changzhi_: later, busy with other things now.... | 16:16 |
| mordred | krotscheck: what's the expected process for rolling these out (sorry if this has been covered before already) | 16:16 |
| AJaeger | changzhi_: there're more folks that can review and will do it | 16:16 |
| changzhi_ | AJaeger: thx ;-) | 16:16 |
| mordred | krotscheck: OH - wait | 16:17 |
| mordred | krotscheck: I think I see it now | 16:17 |
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| mordred | it's seving out web as a docroot and has an additional path /wheel that gets the rewrites -so we should expect this to continue serving the existing content | 16:17 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: yep, that's it. | 16:27 |
| krotscheck | Sorry, afk for an hour or so. | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: sorry I had to address something at home | 16:30 |
| AJaeger | no worries, anteaya. Hope my explanation is fine | 16:30 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: have you any objection to me asking jeblair what zuul's behaviour is when it encounters two patches using the same change id? | 16:31 |
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| anteaya | as what I know or believe is based on what I have heard jeblair say | 16:31 |
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| anteaya | and I recall reviewing your edit to the documentation, I am grateful you wrote it | 16:32 |
| fungi | anteaya: i assume you mean what happens when zuul sees a depends-on declared to a change-id which is shared by two patches (in different projects or on different branches) | 16:32 |
| nibalizer | mordred: I responded on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243399/ | 16:32 |
| anteaya | fungi: yes | 16:32 |
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| nibalizer | yolanda: might even still be around | 16:32 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: not at all, please double check. If the documentation is wrong or unclear, let's enhance it | 16:32 |
| fungi | anteaya: happy to let jeblair confirm, but zuul will wait for both of those changes to merge before it will consider the depending change mergeable | 16:33 |
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| fungi | you may be confusing this with what happens when one of those two changes gets abandoned and the other merges (then zuul will not consider the depending change mergeable) | 16:33 |
| * AJaeger needs to shovel some snow now... | 16:33 | |
| mordred | nibalizer: so, your thought was that we would totally move management of those files to ansible-puppet and stop managing them in puppet-puppet altogether? | 16:33 |
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| nibalizer | ya | 16:34 |
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| anteaya | fungi: no that is my misunderstanding then, as I had thought I had heard that if zuul encounters a depends-on with a change id shared by two patches that it won't decide but will stop processing | 16:34 |
| mordred | nibalizer: ok. I can be more on board with that since it actually does make the lines a little clearer | 16:34 |
| dougwig | lifeless: have you seen this error before? vanilla ubuntu 14.04, following directions for adding to g-r: | 16:34 |
| dougwig | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aiYBemgu/ | 16:35 |
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| fungi | anteaya: zuul will stop processing if it encounters a circular dependency in a series, since it has no reasonable way to determine into which order they should be serialized | 16:35 |
| mordred | nibalizer: biggest problem I can see is that it does kinda remove the possibility of people running infra puppet without managing it with ansile | 16:35 |
| mordred | ansible | 16:35 |
| fungi | whereby i mean a cross-repo-dependency series (obviously you won't have a circular dependency with strict in-project git relationships) | 16:36 |
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| anteaya | I was following this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223195/ | 16:36 |
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| nibalizer | well remember that the integration point is puppet-openstackci not system-config | 16:36 |
| anteaya | right, yes I knew it would stop on a circular dependency | 16:36 |
| mordred | nibalizer: and puppet-openstackci I'm assuming does not manage your puppet config for you already, yeah? | 16:37 |
| nibalizer | someone would always have to manage a puppet installation | 16:37 |
| mordred | kk | 16:37 |
| mordred | ok - I'm on board - you've made a good argument | 16:37 |
| nibalizer | woo | 16:37 |
| anteaya | the top depends-on on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221487/ | 16:37 |
| mordred | I think I'd like fungi to also be on board | 16:37 |
| nibalizer | yes | 16:37 |
| mordred | since it is a little bit of a structural shift in somehting | 16:37 |
| mordred | fungi: when you have a moment of brain-space | 16:37 |
| fungi | mordred: yep, just about caught up to where i can go through those | 16:37 |
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| mordred | fungi: oh - well, this is different from the thing I asked you to review earlier - but awesome | 16:38 |
| fungi | oh, more closely inspecting scrollback then | 16:38 |
| mordred | fungi: the new thing to consider is that nibalizer has a proposal, (that I didn't like but now like) | 16:38 |
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| mordred | which is that we break out our circular dependency structure a bit - where right now we have puppet manage puppet but also have ansible run puppet | 16:39 |
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| mordred | and instead have ansible manage puppet - including manaing the puppet config files | 16:39 |
| mordred | that way it can manage the puppet config files _before_ each time it runs puppet | 16:39 |
| mordred | which is nice from a sequencing perspective - and also from a bootstrapping perspective | 16:39 |
| nibalizer | my point being that puppet managing itself has 1) a bootstrapping problem and b) can wedge itself and not be able to recover | 16:39 |
| reed | i forgot infra uses ansible to manage puppet :) | 16:39 |
| fungi | mordred: nibalizer: i think that's actually a much saner approach, yes. then we know whether the chicken or the egg came first | 16:39 |
| reed | the egg came first | 16:40 |
| reed | if you believe in evolution, at least :) | 16:40 |
| mordred | fungi: it should also make ansible-launch-node fairly sane, since we'll alreayd have a "manage puppet on this server" ansible role - so the ansible launch node can be "dude, make me aserver, then make sure puppet is cool, then run puppet" | 16:40 |
| * reed apologizes, needs more coffee | 16:40 | |
| mordred | fungi: cool | 16:40 |
| mordred | nibalizer: you can make the follow up patch that ports the rest of puppet-puppet? | 16:41 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: it also makes that role nice and self-contained for other folks who might want to use the same reporter structure and stuff | 16:42 |
| fungi | basically we hollow out the puppet-puppet repo entirely and retire it, or it still has some stub usage? | 16:42 |
| mordred | I think we ultimately retire it | 16:42 |
| fungi | wfm | 16:42 |
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| nibalizer | did we even move to puppet-puppet? | 16:45 |
| nibalizer | or does it just contain copies of code that lives in system-config right now | 16:45 |
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| clarkb | I dont think we use it | 16:46 |
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| mordred | oh - well in that case | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/requirements: Add neutron-lib to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/268229 | 16:48 |
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| jeblair | mordred, fungi, clarkb, jroll: my regex was funky yesterday, this one is better: URxvt.matcher.pattern.1: https:\/\/review.openstack.org/(\\#\/c\/)?(\\d+)[\w]* | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Document urxvt clickable links https://review.openstack.org/267901 | 16:56 |
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| clarkb | snapshot builds seem ok, checking on dib builds now | 16:57 |
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| clarkb | DibFailedError: DIB failed creating /opt/nodepool_dib/176174 | 16:59 |
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| jroll | jeblair: ty | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | | 176174 | devstack-centos7-dib | /opt/nodepool_dib/devstack-centos7-dib-1452867324 | 1452867324 | building | 00:02:44:12 | | 16:59 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ^ we don't appear to be recording errors in the db properly | 17:00 |
| clarkb | now to figure out why dib failed | 17:00 |
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| clarkb | failed downloading that fedora20 image, so either we hvae old dib or the prune fix didn't help | 17:01 |
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| fungi | needs moar prunes | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | diskimage-builder==1.7.1 is what pip freeze says we have and that is latest version | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | now to find that prune if it is logged | 17:03 |
| pleia2 | good morning | 17:03 |
| clarkb | ya prune happened | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | http://nodepool.openstack.org/dib.devstack-centos7-dib.log is the logfile fwiw | 17:04 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: morning | 17:04 |
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| pleia2 | more dib :\ | 17:06 |
| clarkb | git remote prune origin is what d-g does | 17:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental neutron jobs for the new pecan based api server https://review.openstack.org/268234 | 17:07 |
| clarkb | which git fetch --prune seems to be a rough equvalent for but for whatever you are fetching against | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/hacking: Do not call "rm -rf" on arbitrary user input https://review.openstack.org/267104 | 17:07 |
| clarkb | I guess its time to consider that that image may be in a live devstack branch | 17:08 |
| * clarkb looks | 17:08 | |
| jeblair | Shrews: let me know if the explanation on https://review.openstack.org/259671 convinces you as much as it does me. :) | 17:08 |
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| clarkb | hrm not git branch -a in the cache repo says icehouse and juno are still there | 17:09 |
| clarkb | I am many many commits ahead of origin/master though | 17:09 |
| clarkb | I think the problem is we aren't remote updating | 17:09 |
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| mordred | jeblair: yes - your new regex is superior | 17:10 |
| clarkb | so I think what we need in source repositories is a git remote update --prune, then we can git fetch which won't need the --prune | 17:11 |
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| fungi | clarkb: that sounds right. should remove the dead remotes and associated local tracking branches that way | 17:12 |
| Shrews | jeblair: it's fine. i'm not familiar enough with your code yet to pass judgement either way | 17:12 |
| fungi | clarkb: easy enough to test by just making a file copy of the crufty repo | 17:12 |
| jeblair | Shrews: whew | 17:12 |
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| Shrews | jeblair: i've seen a lot worse in schemas :) | 17:13 |
| jeblair | Shrews: that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me! | 17:13 |
| Shrews | lol | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add script to make ansible groups from patterns https://review.openstack.org/265647 | 17:14 |
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| AJaeger | pleia2, clarkb: Here's a translation script simplification, could either of you review that, please? Also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268067/ would be nice. | 17:15 |
| timrc | pa-pa-pattern power | 17:15 |
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| timrc | I've been watching too much Team Umizoomi. | 17:16 |
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| pleia2 | AJaeger: lgtm | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Display a message when interactively syncing https://review.openstack.org/267887 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Fix off-by-one in sync counter https://review.openstack.org/267886 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add option to disable mouse support https://review.openstack.org/267835 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Document urxvt clickable links https://review.openstack.org/267901 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Always sync a specfically queried change https://review.openstack.org/267898 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments https://review.openstack.org/267764 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add vi mode navigation https://review.openstack.org/267890 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add support for external commands https://review.openstack.org/267831 | 17:17 |
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| AJaeger | pleia2: thansk. I forgot add a link to the simplicifcation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268046/ | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add notes to see reference-gertty.yaml for more info https://review.openstack.org/260715 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: remove python 2.6 trove classifier https://review.openstack.org/260783 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add project topics https://review.openstack.org/259671 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add process mark to project list https://review.openstack.org/259701 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Cache counts of project changes https://review.openstack.org/260085 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add a vi keymap https://review.openstack.org/267175 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Allow gertty to run in Py3K environments https://review.openstack.org/267764 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add support for external commands https://review.openstack.org/267831 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add option to disable mouse support https://review.openstack.org/267835 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Fix off-by-one in sync counter https://review.openstack.org/267886 | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Display a message when interactively syncing https://review.openstack.org/267887 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Add vi mode navigation https://review.openstack.org/267890 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Always sync a specfically queried change https://review.openstack.org/267898 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Document urxvt clickable links https://review.openstack.org/267901 | 17:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add job to test neutron against neutron-lib master https://review.openstack.org/268240 | 17:20 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think gerrit just merged a stack of changes >4 deep with merge commits! | 17:21 |
| mordred | woot! | 17:21 |
| jeblair | the first two changes merged were not stacked, but the rest were | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2 https://review.openstack.org/237156 | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: nods, thanks, looking | 17:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: so the problem with doing this is I am now feeling the itch to rewrite half of this git caching stuff :) | 17:23 |
| clarkb | fungi: it turns out that `git remote update` is magical and hanldes a lot of the stuff in here | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/hacking: Remove oslo-incubator section in HACKING.rst https://review.openstack.org/267928 | 17:24 |
| fungi | jeblair: so maybe newer jgit no longer has that bug? | 17:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental neutron jobs for the new pecan based api server https://review.openstack.org/268234 | 17:25 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, instead of fetch --all or whatever we were doing before? | 17:25 |
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| clarkb | fungi: it does this funky fetch only the thing we need to fetch stuff | 17:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: which seems like premature optimization to me especially since it leads to inconsistent caches | 17:26 |
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| zaro | morning | 17:26 |
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| fungi | ahh yeah | 17:27 |
| fungi | i may be responsible for some of that since i was trying to work around the dib default behaviors of fetching as little as possible to add ways for us to configure it to get everything instead of almost nothing | 17:28 |
| fungi | while reusing as much of the existing framework they have in there as possible so as to increase my chances of getting the dib reviewers to agree | 17:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Actually prune stale branches in src-repos https://review.openstack.org/268241 | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ya I am worried htat htey won't like this patch. That said I think we have proven the do as little as possible method isn't reliable if you need correct git trees | 17:29 |
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| clarkb | I will need to go back to morninging but next I hope to take a look at hwy the dib build errors didn't update the db and result in those builds being removed | 17:31 |
| anteaya | morning zaro | 17:31 |
| jeblair | clarkb: would you like me to start on that or do you want all the fun? | 17:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: oh if you hav etime now itwould be great if you could look | 17:33 |
| jeblair | will do | 17:33 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: re: errors not getting recorded - is there an error in the builder logs? | 17:42 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I wonder if we just aren't properly handling the gearman job error | 17:42 |
| greghaynes | fungi: clarkb I dont know if any of us are super fond of the current code, just the interface | 17:43 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: there is an exception recoreded in te logs (pasted earlier) | 17:43 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: clarkb re: git cloning | 17:43 |
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| zxiiro | waynr: zaro: Do you guys know if we just forget to workflow or is it not workflowed on purpose? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255280/ | 17:43 |
| jeblair | greghaynes, clarkb: yeah, looking at the code, i believe the builder sent a work fail, but i do not beleive on the client side we have a handleWorkFail method | 17:43 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: I think https://review.openstack.org/268241 is easy fix for cloning | 17:43 |
| greghaynes | ah, easy enough | 17:44 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: it might make source-repository a little slower but we get correctness as a result | 17:45 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: commented | 17:45 |
| zaro | zxiiro: i wasn't aware of a seperate links check job and i don't see a link check job on that change. | 17:45 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: thats fine, we have offline mode if you want speed | 17:45 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: oh ya I need to do that wrapper | 17:46 |
| zxiiro | zaro: yeah I don't see one either. I guess I'll leave it for electrofelix. | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental neutron jobs for the new pecan based api server https://review.openstack.org/268234 | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Actually prune stale branches in src-repos https://review.openstack.org/268241 | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Revert "Add CI coverage of deleting the deployed overcloud" https://review.openstack.org/268253 | 17:49 |
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| jesusaurus | clarkb: greghaynes: when you get a chance can you review https://review.openstack.org/259200 ? (the graceful shutdown we talked about a while back) | 17:50 |
| greghaynes | jesusaurus: ah, ya | 17:50 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: no comment -2? :P | 17:50 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: hahahaa | 17:50 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: derp | 17:50 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I am not used to this new dropdown and I haven't had coffee | 17:51 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: +2'd | 17:51 |
| jesusaurus | lol | 17:51 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: I figured you were trying gertty or something | 17:52 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: +10000 (re MTUs) | 17:52 |
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| fungi | gertty is arranged, unsurprisingly, a lot more like the "old review screen" | 17:52 |
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| fungi | so even though i wasn't using the webui much before the upgrade, the old change screen felt a lot less foreign to me than the new one | 17:53 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: :) :) :) | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow multiple credentials-binding entries https://review.openstack.org/260886 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding setup of credentialsId in stashNotifier https://review.openstack.org/260606 | 17:55 |
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| sc68cal | clarkb: I think I missed an opportunity to make a metal gear solid reference | 17:55 |
| sc68cal | Solid Neutron - the phantom MTU pain | 17:55 |
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| clarkb | wow | 17:56 |
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| clarkb | sc68cal: I haven't looked at our docs yet but I bet another missing piece of the puzzle is dropping icmp on the floor so fragmentation is extra terrible | 17:57 |
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| clarkb | so huge +1 to just setting an mtu that works best we can | 17:57 |
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| sc68cal | clarkb: yeah. I mean maybe in the future investigate path mtu discovery | 17:57 |
| sc68cal | via icmp | 17:58 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: Were you messing with the code to properly handle gearman errors? I can hack it out later today after I go to this house inspection... | 17:58 |
| fungi | sc68cal: pmtud ftw! | 17:59 |
| anteaya | clarkb sc68cal might I ask to which patch you are referring? | 17:59 |
| fungi | anteaya: dev ml post | 17:59 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084241.html | 17:59 |
| clarkb | anteaya: its a ml post, sc68cal is trying to get support from neutron to make things better (I already sort of said we should do that in another thread so won't pile on the new thread) | 18:00 |
| anteaya | ah sorry, remembered that might be it | 18:00 |
| fungi | and yeah, pmtud is going to just plan not work if we're blocking icmp for no good reason | 18:00 |
| clarkb | but wanted to express my support regardless | 18:00 |
| fungi | er, just plain | 18:00 |
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| anteaya | I unsubscribed from all the things since I had to do an emergency domain name transfer and anticipate my email will be not fully functional for a bit | 18:00 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: oh pile on the new thread | 18:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I missed your decleration of support in the other thread you refer to | 18:01 |
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| anteaya | and yes clear MTU would be wonderful | 18:02 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083794.html | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: thank you, sorry for missing it the first time | 18:03 |
| electrofelix | zxiiro: just needs the CRD https://review.openstack.org/255277 to be approved | 18:04 |
| zxiiro | electrofelix: ah ok | 18:05 |
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| electrofelix | AJaeger yolanda: is another reviewer needed for https://review.openstack.org/255277? | 18:05 |
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| jeblair | fungi, clarkb, mordred, reed: i'm going to email aptira and ask them to please fix their blog timezone thingy. | 18:05 |
| reed | thanks jeblair... they LOL at me when I notified them on twitter, not sure what to make of it | 18:06 |
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| fungi | jeblair: thanks--and then if it continues to be an issue we can consider more drastic solutions at that time | 18:06 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sounds good | 18:06 |
| reed | now that India has voted and Kavit is on the board, that request won't be weird | 18:06 |
| fungi | like, for example, if they lol at you too | 18:07 |
| sc68cal | reed: heh I saw that | 18:07 |
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| sc68cal | clarkb: the reason I didn't post it to the mutlinode grenade thread is because I think it's a big enough problem that it warranted a new thread. I guess I could have done a "was:" to keep it linked, oops | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add integration jobs for Bandit https://review.openstack.org/267066 | 18:09 |
| fungi | sc68cal: and also because it's a problem of much broader scope than grenade multinode jobs | 18:10 |
| sc68cal | fungi: agreed | 18:10 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: nah it really is its own thing so no problem | 18:10 |
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| fungi | if getting better upgrade testing for neutron is a good incentive to fix neutron's mtu insanity then great, but it's far from the only reason to do so | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack-infra/groups: Changes link: api.o.o -> developer.o.o https://review.openstack.org/268269 | 18:11 |
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| sc68cal | fungi: true. it's just .... sort of interesting how things jump in priority when it impacts a CI job ;) | 18:12 |
| anteaya | reed: I would consider the request valid regardless of the composition of the board of directors | 18:12 |
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| fungi | sc68cal: perhaps it's easier for many to let machines tell them what's important | 18:12 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: no I'm glad you created a new thread | 18:12 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: clearly we need more tests that better approximate real world scenarios >_> | 18:13 |
| fungi | i think i've seen this movie ;) | 18:13 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: I haven't been able to wade through the multinode thread in some time | 18:13 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: exactly :) | 18:13 |
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| sc68cal | fungi: guess I'll need to put that "enable neutron to launch nuclear missiles" on the back burner | 18:13 |
| clarkb | this reminds me I really need to finish up the ELK stuff so I can get to the vagrant devstack stuff to repreoduce multinode locally | 18:13 |
| fungi | why yes, i _would_ like to play a game! | 18:14 |
| clarkb | so that we can make it voting | 18:14 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: after enable neutron to play chess, perhaps? | 18:14 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: indeed :) | 18:14 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I'm in favour of ELK work | 18:14 |
| anteaya | clarkb: if I can help I will | 18:14 |
| anteaya | clarkb: if my greatest support is my absence, consider it done | 18:14 |
| clarkb | anteaya: ya if we can get reviews I may actually be able to deploy the logstash 2.0 upgrade everywhere this weekend while watching sportsball | 18:14 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: i haven't started on it; all yours if you want | 18:14 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: ok | 18:15 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: jeblair reviewed | 18:15 |
| clarkb | oh sweet, then I guess I will make that my plan | 18:15 |
| anteaya | clarkb: isn't there a football thing? or has that passed? | 18:15 |
| * anteaya is so out of touch on the sportsbacll | 18:15 | |
| clarkb | ya playoffs | 18:15 |
| anteaya | yay playoffs | 18:16 |
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| clarkb | but the whole buying a house thing is far less busy on weekends so I have time for things like redeploy logstash 2.0 | 18:16 |
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| anteaya | yeah, I figured you were in heavy buying a house mode | 18:17 |
| anteaya | how goes that bit of business? | 18:17 |
| anteaya | found one you like? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | its going well so far. Yup have an accepted offer too. Inspections and all that happen monday | 18:17 |
| anteaya | yay! | 18:17 |
| anteaya | congratulations | 18:17 |
| anteaya | when is the closing date? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | mid february | 18:17 |
| anteaya | congratulations | 18:17 |
| anteaya | I hope everything goes well | 18:18 |
| clarkb | me too, but trying to not get too attached in case they don't | 18:18 |
| anteaya | understood | 18:18 |
| anteaya | yeah it is a difficult place to be, so wise to wait until the outcome is decided | 18:18 |
| anteaya | so yeah, one more system-config core review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247714/ would put you in a great place for the sportsball between commercials work | 18:20 |
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| jlvillal | On https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251995/ there was +2 patch and +1s on patch set 8. But then there was a patchset 9 & 10. And 10 differs slightly from 8. But it still shows the +2 and +1s. So I'm wondering if Gerrit is confused or I am confused. | 18:22 |
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| jlvillal | Could it be a rebase and Gerrit says that is okay? | 18:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | AJaeger: I reworked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267066/7 to not need anything in bandit as a dependency (modeling it off of bashate and bifrost a bit) | 18:22 |
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| clarkb | jlvillal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251995/8..10/ironic/tests/unit/api/v1/test_nodes.py thats the delta between 8 and 10, if those lines are not part of the change itself but picked up via a rebase somewhere else in the file then gerrit will still treat that as a trivial rebase | 18:23 |
| clarkb | jlvillal: it checks the interdiff between the diffs | 18:23 |
| jlvillal | clarkb: Okay. And so 'trivial rebase' will maintain the votes? | 18:23 |
| clarkb | jlvillal: yes | 18:24 |
| jlvillal | clarkb: Thanks | 18:24 |
| clarkb | jlvillal: well for code review not for verified or workflow | 18:24 |
| fungi | actually, unless they've changed the mechanism, it doesn't really do an interdiff. it compares the resut of git patch-id | 18:24 |
| fungi | er, result of | 18:24 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh is that how it is actually implemented? | 18:24 |
| jlvillal | clarkb: fungi Thanks | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Avoid git clone in integration test https://review.openstack.org/268275 | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use zuul-cloner for hacking integration test https://review.openstack.org/268276 | 18:25 |
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| fungi | clarkb: used to be anyway, and since git was originally developed for c source code management, you get that fun behavior where whitespace changes don't alter the patch-id result | 18:25 |
| ari | zxiiro# ping | 18:25 |
| AJaeger | clarkb, fungi: Could you review my usage of zuul-cloner in 268275 and 268276, please? | 18:25 |
| AJaeger | sigmavirus24: I rewrote hacking now - see aboe ^ | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | it's not raining, so I'm going to grab some fresh air, bbs | 18:26 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: good idea, enjoy some air | 18:27 |
| anteaya | I'm going to have some lunch I think | 18:27 |
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| sigmavirus24 | AJaeger: so my concern with changing the local jobs is people not being able to run something locally on their dev box that is remotely akin to what's happening in the gate (without having to do a lot of it manually) | 18:27 |
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| AJaeger | sigmavirus24: did you see how I changed hacking? you can run test.sh LOCAL_DIR and it tests LOCAL_DIR | 18:29 |
| AJaeger | LOCAL_DIR is read-only in this case | 18:29 |
| fungi | crinkle: trying out your first suggestion on 267778 in a dev env, i'm getting "Duplicate declaration: Class[Apt] is already declared; cannot redeclare..." | 18:29 |
| AJaeger | sigmavirus24: you could do the same, add your script from project-config to your repo and pass the git repo to it | 18:30 |
| fungi | crinkle: any easy way around setting that without running afoul of other classes where we might be using the apt module? | 18:30 |
| crinkle | fungi: are you modifying the 'include apt' in the template class? or declaring a new one in the server class? | 18:30 |
| fungi | crinkle: oh, we may need to refactor a bit then. i need to apply this at the openstack_project::server level since openstack_project::template also gets used by things like openstack_project::single_use_slave that we don't want to change behavior on | 18:31 |
| crinkle | oh.. | 18:32 |
| fungi | i guess i could just add a variable and plumb that through with a non-default value from the server class | 18:32 |
| fungi | i'll give that a shot | 18:32 |
| crinkle | sounds good | 18:32 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: are you still online today? i wonder if we can get solution that works for both regions for 231757 - I don't see how to do it in bifrost but maybe you can show me | 18:34 |
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| AJaeger | sigmavirus24: do you think my approach for hacking is fine and will work in your case as well? | 18:35 |
| clarkb | sigmavirus24: AJaeger an alternative would be to continue doing keystone and nova for example but in the jenkins job have zuul cloner set them up and the script not update them at all | 18:35 |
| clarkb | sigmavirus24: AJaeger then have the script clone them only if they are not already present | 18:35 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ah patch-id is just the hash of the diff with whitespace and line numbers ignored. So would be roughyl equivalent to interdiff if you did a non whitespace dependent diff | 18:38 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, that works as well - but isn't my new setup good enough in hacking? I would remove the old handling completely in a second step... | 18:38 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I think it will function, just wondering if we can address sigmavirus24's concerns | 18:39 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yep | 18:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: and there is no flag in C git to add whitespace to the hash | 18:40 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: I think if he models it like my patch, it should work just fine. Add a script to bandit - similar to my new hacking script - and have people checkout e.g. nova and call the script with test-sh path-to-nova | 18:40 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: so, moving the tox invocations back from his project-config change back to bandit - like in hacking | 18:41 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: what I'm saying is: sigmavirus24's concern is not a problem with my hacking change. sigmavirus24, do you agree? | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack/requirements: Blacklist DIB 1.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/268285 | 18:44 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I think it would be fine, the only thing would be telling devs that they have to clone nova first | 18:44 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep. when i was maintaining our fork of the gerrit hook script for that (pre plugins) i added a pass with whitespace replaced by a translation map to non-whitespace | 18:45 |
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| adam_g | greghaynes, markmcclain, https://review.openstack.org/268285 ... or maybe that should wait till 1.7.2 is out with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268212/ ? | 18:46 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: that script is not really documented if my grep is fine. I can change the script as well to optionally clone if you think that's better. Wanted to keep the script simple... | 18:49 |
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| clarkb | ya that auto clone was just a suggestion for making jenkins and local match more closely since jenkins will run zuul cloner to lcone | 18:50 |
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| zxiiro | ari: hi | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack-infra/groups: Fixed some footer link & added news link https://review.openstack.org/268269 | 18:50 |
| markmcclain | adam_g: we still have to blacklist 1.7.0 so I think it makes sense to merge this and when 1.7.2 is ready we can add that version too | 18:50 |
| zxiiro | ari: just about to grab a really late lunch, anything i can do for you before I go? | 18:51 |
| ari | zxiiro# I responded to your review there is new older plugin that doesn't support the current setup so there shouldn't be an issue | 18:51 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: you have a point - it would test a local tree in a completely different state... | 18:51 |
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| zxiiro | ari: ok LGTM then | 18:52 |
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| krotscheck | Anyone else interested in helping me do Wheel Mirror things? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:wheel_mirror+status:open | 18:52 |
| ari | zxiiro# I just need a +2 thanks! | 18:52 |
| * krotscheck has already suckered mordred into reviewing some of those ;) | 18:52 | |
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| zxiiro | ari: done | 18:53 |
| anteaya | ari: you might be interested to know that using a hash mark (#) with someone's username isn't required in irc | 18:53 |
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| sigmavirus24 | AJaeger: yeah, after toying with your new hacking script, I'm fine with that /cc clarkb | 18:54 |
| * sigmavirus24 is going to approve the hacking change and update bandit | 18:54 | |
| sigmavirus24 | thank you both | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Updated to support changes to openshift pipeline plugin https://review.openstack.org/263354 | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers https://review.openstack.org/267778 | 18:56 |
| clarkb | ok github descriptions for the watcher projects are updated and I approved the gerrit projects.yaml change | 18:56 |
| clarkb | anteaya: ^ | 18:56 |
| fungi | crinkle: nibalizer: jeblair: mordred: clarkb: that's tested in a puppet dev env now and should work | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use common logging for nodepool applications https://review.openstack.org/267865 | 18:57 |
| pabelanger | greghaynes: clarkb: would be interested in comments,^ we do something similar with zuul for logging | 18:57 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: ugh | 18:58 |
| anteaya | clarkb: wonderful thanks for letting me know | 18:58 |
| nibalizer | I want template and server to be the same, and ideally one would go away | 18:58 |
| nibalizer | putting code there undoes the work we did to centralize | 18:59 |
| fungi | nibalizer: this is an effort not to touch the job workers, and they instantiate the template class | 18:59 |
| fungi | nibalizer: should the file resource just move into that conditional in the template class? | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Avoid git clone in integration test https://review.openstack.org/268275 | 19:00 |
| fungi | basically trying to have puppet manage the apt sources on our long-lived servers but not our job workers | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use zuul-cloner for hacking integration test https://review.openstack.org/268276 | 19:01 |
| fungi | nibalizer: where else would you foresee that split happening if not between the server and template classes? | 19:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dong Ma proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add doxygen builder support https://review.openstack.org/131330 | 19:01 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: with conditional logic in the template class | 19:01 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, sigmavirus24: Both changes updated, does this look fine to you now? | 19:01 |
| fungi | nibalizer: or flip the default to true and override it to false in our worker classes that instantiate template? | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | AJaeger: going to play with it some more but have to jump into a meeting for ~45m | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | so I'll be back later to toy around | 19:02 |
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| AJaeger | sigmavirus24: you're core on hacking? Great ;) | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Update Watcher projects descriptions https://review.openstack.org/267549 | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | sigmavirus24: sure, thanks | 19:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers https://review.openstack.org/267778 | 19:03 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: so that ^ ? | 19:03 |
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| fungi | oh, whoops, i nested wrong, just a sec | 19:04 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: ya like that | 19:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers https://review.openstack.org/267778 | 19:05 |
| fungi | okay, fixed | 19:05 |
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| fungi | oh, and the params class inclusion there is also redundant in template. i'll clean that up | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers https://review.openstack.org/267778 | 19:06 |
| fungi | crinkle: nibalizer: jeblair: mordred: clarkb: that's ready now i think ^ | 19:06 |
| nibalizer | fungi: why go through paraams at all? | 19:06 |
| nibalizer | you could just write that source line in template | 19:06 |
| fungi | fair enough. i'll clean that up too | 19:07 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: as written you will deploy the custom infra sources.list onto the slaves, which I think is what you were trying to avoid | 19:08 |
| fungi | nibalizer: thanks, i'll add a check for the purge var around that too | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Puppet the Ubuntu sources.list files on servers https://review.openstack.org/267778 | 19:09 |
| fungi | okay, those two edits added | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new ironic-staging-drivers project https://review.openstack.org/268294 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow stable-maint-core members to manage devstack stable branches https://review.openstack.org/268295 | 19:10 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: woot | 19:10 |
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| fungi | now maybe this terribleness can be behind us for good | 19:10 |
| krotscheck | fungi: So, the wheel mirror patches are ready - the only noted comment I have is that it might make sense not to land the project-config jobs until the system-config jobs are landed _and_ we have the wheel mirrors provisioned. | 19:10 |
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| krotscheck | Should I WIP that patch chain? | 19:11 |
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| krotscheck | Oh, I can't. | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Avoid git clone in integration test https://review.openstack.org/268275 | 19:12 |
| fungi | krotscheck: makes sense. i mean having those jobs fail/break won't actually cause issues for anything else, but there's no point in trying to run them at all until the systems to run them are there | 19:12 |
| krotscheck | only greghaynes can WIP taht :) | 19:12 |
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| anteaya | krotscheck: if you don't want project-config changes to land now, yes please -1 them with an explanation | 19:12 |
| jeblair | fungi, mordred, reed: https://github.com/rubys/venus/pull/35 | 19:12 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: greghaynes will have to wip it... wip it good. | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | fungi, mordred, reed: planet-venus has an option to help us out, but it's broken because of a simple python error :( | 19:13 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: you can leave a comment with a -1 while you wait for him so it doesn't get missed | 19:13 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: that is an option | 19:13 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: but....but.... DEVO reference! | 19:13 |
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| krotscheck | 'cause when a problem comes along, you must WIP it! | 19:14 |
| anteaya | sorry nova uses that all the time, I guess I filter it out now | 19:14 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: nice reference | 19:14 |
| krotscheck | Is there an infra root available next week that can help get the wheel mirror slaves into place? I'm usually available before noon PST | 19:15 |
| jeblair | fungi, mordred, reed: (and i mean really broken -- it makes all the posts disappear) | 19:15 |
| reed | ehheeh | 19:15 |
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| reed | jeblair, let's just kick aptira off the planet until they fix their stream :) easier, since really, who cares about Kavit's drinking habits? | 19:16 |
| anteaya | I'm not interested in anyone's drinking habits on the openstack planet | 19:17 |
| jeblair | reed: well, i'm seeing if there's a way we can protect against this in the future... | 19:17 |
| jeblair | in case someone else accidentally messes up their publishing dates | 19:17 |
| mriedem | so i've always wondered, if hp public cloud is no more and we don't have test resources from them, what are the hpcloud nodes in nodepool? | 19:18 |
| anteaya | mriedem: it goes offline end of jan | 19:18 |
| mriedem | and how many nodes go away? | 19:19 |
| anteaya | mriedem: we still have actual hpcloud nodes at present | 19:19 |
| mriedem | like 600? | 19:19 |
| anteaya | something like that | 19:19 |
| mriedem | ha | 19:19 |
| anteaya | now we also have 3 new providers that are ramping up | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | we're all going to die! | 19:19 |
| anteaya | no | 19:19 |
| reed | jeblair, that's fair ... in the future, I promise myself not to be so cautious | 19:19 |
| anteaya | I'm not | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | well i know about ovh and bluebox | 19:19 |
| anteaya | mriedem: and internap | 19:19 |
| jeblair | we're up ~200 from where we were a couple months ago | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | yeah i noticed nodepool was higher on the zuul status page | 19:20 |
| reed | jeblair, frankly if I realized that their server was "mis-configured" I would have done something earlier | 19:20 |
| reed | I didn't realize that until yesterday afternoon | 19:20 |
| anteaya | mriedem: this is the file that says how many nodes we have with different providers: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/nodepool.yaml | 19:20 |
| reed | i thought they were just being prolific | 19:20 |
| mriedem | anteaya: yeah, i've written a yaml parser to get the summary from there before | 19:20 |
| jeblair | and in reality we only get about 500 from hpcloud due to raisons... so if it turned off today, we're down 300 | 19:21 |
| jeblair | from where we were when this started | 19:21 |
| anteaya | jeblair: is statd happy again, are you ready to merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266468/ | 19:21 |
| jeblair | hopefully we'll get more from internap soon, and then infra cloud, and hopefully some others we have in the pipeline, so after a while, we may be well above where we were | 19:21 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: https://aptira.com/we-want-you-to-vote-for-kavit/#comment-168 | 19:22 |
| anteaya | mriedem: so yes you are welcome to panic if you like, sometimes panicing can be fun | 19:22 |
| fungi | yeah, the raxtel osic is setting up one for us soon, in theory | 19:22 |
| * mriedem runs around like a chicken with it's head cut off | 19:22 | |
| anteaya | mriedem: but we are working on maintaining quota via other sources | 19:22 |
| anteaya | mriedem: nicely done | 19:22 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: i don't see a comment if that was supposed to link to one | 19:22 |
| jeblair | anteaya: +3 | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | try again: https://aptira.com/we-want-you-to-vote-for-kavit/ | 19:23 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thank you | 19:23 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: wow, glad I missed that on the first go around, how tasteless | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | comments are moderated ;( | 19:23 |
| * fungi just looks at the reassuring cover of "the guide" at times like these | 19:23 | |
| AJaeger | "I see now six campaign posts for Kavit on planet.openstack.org. Compare that with how other candidates run their election. A single announcement is fine – but really six? This is over the top and might influence voters in whom not to vote." | 19:23 |
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| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 19:24 |
| jeblair | fungi, reed, mordred: what we can easily do right now is set future_date scrub to ignore_date, which will at least not always have them on the top | 19:24 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: I support that direction | 19:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new ironic-staging-drivers project https://review.openstack.org/268294 | 19:24 |
| jeblair | venus will use the fetch date instead | 19:24 |
| reed | agreed | 19:24 |
| fungi | so basically we'd allow people to "post-date" their posts | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | Election results are in, congrats mordred | 19:25 |
| fungi | respecting the date it claims to have been posted, just don't serve it if in the future | 19:25 |
| fungi | until the future is now | 19:25 |
| nibalizer | I love the name 'raxtel' | 19:26 |
| fungi | nibalizer: it's like a tabloid romance | 19:26 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:26 |
| jeblair | remote: https://review.openstack.org/268299 Ignore future dates | 19:27 |
| jeblair | reed, mordred, fungi: ^ | 19:27 |
| jeblair | gah 1 sec | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: I noticed to late that comments are moderated ;( | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | updated | 19:27 |
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| fungi | ahh, i see so overriding the claimed date instead. that wfm too | 19:28 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah. i'd prefer ignore_entry (after all, if they say this is published 2 days in the future, we should honor that!) but until that bug is fixed we can't use it | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Increase internap max servers from 24 to 36 https://review.openstack.org/266468 | 19:29 |
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| ari | anteaya# I just did a tab it does it automatically | 19:32 |
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| anteaya | really, how interesting, might I ask what client you are using? | 19:33 |
| anteaya | oh it might be in your settings on your client, odd that that would be the default though | 19:34 |
| ari | anteaya# yes it is in my client but does it bother you for some reason? | 19:35 |
| anteaya | oh no, no bother | 19:36 |
| AJaeger | ari: it confuses ;) | 19:36 |
| anteaya | it just isn't necessary in irc and I didn't know if you knew that | 19:36 |
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| anteaya | some people think that the @symbol is useful in irc and it isn't | 19:37 |
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| anteaya | the @symbol is useful in twitter | 19:37 |
| ari | anteaya I am not using that symbol | 19:38 |
| ari | AJaeger how is it confusing | 19:38 |
| thingee | anteaya: I also blame slack for this | 19:38 |
| lifeless | dougwig: means something failed, and the failure exception was https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aiYBemgu/ | 19:38 |
| anteaya | ari: I used that as an example | 19:38 |
| lifeless | bah | 19:38 |
| lifeless | dougwig: means something failed, and the failure exception was the no such file exception | 19:38 |
| anteaya | thingee: ah is this a slackism? | 19:38 |
| reed | isn't the @ in IRC the shortcut for chanop? | 19:38 |
| lifeless | dougwig: likely missing pip or virtualenv or something? | 19:38 |
| anteaya | thingee: I don't know slack | 19:38 |
| jroll | some clients have a config option for what character to use after a nick, like "foo:" or "foo," | 19:39 |
| AJaeger | ari: If I see a # behind my name,I wonder what's that - compare how others address people | 19:39 |
| lifeless | reed: it is | 19:39 |
| jroll | this seems misconfigured, but I think it's okay | 19:39 |
| thingee | anteaya: yeah if you use their clients, it'll begin auto complete for people in the channel | 19:39 |
| jroll | we're smart people, we can figure it out | 19:39 |
| anteaya | reed: I was talking about symbols for converstation, not commands | 19:39 |
| jroll | slack does not use "foo#", it uses "@foo" | 19:39 |
| anteaya | reed: but thanks for pointing that out | 19:39 |
| AJaeger | pleia2: I'll keep an eye as usual on the translation jobs in the next days - thanks for reviewing 268046 | 19:39 |
| anteaya | jroll: right that's what I was wondering, if it was a config option | 19:40 |
| dougwig | lifeless: yep, it was virtualenv. should that be added to requirements for the module? | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: perfect, thanks :) | 19:40 |
| jroll | anteaya: right, it likely is | 19:40 |
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| anteaya | jroll: yeah sounds like it | 19:40 |
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| anteaya | ari: anyway I was just sharing a piece of information designed to may your irc user experience more pleasant, but you can disregard as you see fit | 19:41 |
| ari | AJaeger# we use this at Redhat and is the default for the HexChat client so don't see an issue | 19:42 |
| ari | anteaya# thanks I already knew that | 19:42 |
| anteaya | oh okay | 19:42 |
| reed | things like @nickname are definitely a twitter thing, I don't remember those appearing before the twitter early days | 19:42 |
| reed | just like the #TOPIC | 19:42 |
| jeblair | i'd really appreciate it if we could avoid randomly putting characters after people's names in here | 19:43 |
| reed | and both came from a limitation in early twitter | 19:43 |
| ari | anteaya: see I changed it | 19:43 |
| jeblair | or before them for that matter | 19:43 |
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| reed | jeblair, like the comma my IRC client puts after your nick? | 19:43 |
| ari | AJaeger: maybe you like this better? | 19:43 |
| anteaya | ari: thanks I appreciate it | 19:43 |
| jeblair | it's not necessary, and it will likely increase confusion for newcomers who may not understand that it is not mechanically necessary | 19:43 |
| lifeless | dougwig: its in test-requirements | 19:43 |
| reed | i think I can change that | 19:44 |
| lifeless | dougwig: but perhaps yes | 19:44 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thank you, that was my point, but more clearly stated | 19:44 |
| jeblair | reed: both comma and colon have similar and well established useful meanings in english writing | 19:44 |
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| reed | ahhh, ok, I think I understand now what the issue is | 19:45 |
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| fungi | actually appropriate punctuation vs. random symbol with unrelated meanings | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | thanks, ari | 19:45 |
| ari | AJaeger: np | 19:45 |
| * fungi assumes fungi# is likely a placeholder for how much he weighs in an imperial measurement system | 19:46 | |
| fungi | or possibly a slightly higher musical note than fungi | 19:46 |
| reed | speaking of IRC, a colleague just mentioned this to me: https://firrre.com/zncstrap/ | 19:46 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:46 |
| anteaya | fungi sharp | 19:46 |
| reed | haven't tried it yet | 19:46 |
| jeblair | well that reads better than fungi octothorpe | 19:46 |
| Clint | fungi♯ | 19:46 |
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| fungi | touché | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: remove use of virtualenv from release scripts https://review.openstack.org/268308 | 19:47 |
| fungi | Clint: you and your fancy slightly more correct codepoints for musical symbology | 19:47 |
| anteaya | reed: is it open source? I can't find their licensing | 19:48 |
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| reed | anteaya, I have no clue... the page looks shiny :) | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove update_po from translation proposal script https://review.openstack.org/268046 | 19:48 |
| anteaya | reed: agreed they have a shiny page | 19:48 |
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| reed | anteaya, and since so many people want shiny I thought ... well, znc + shiny must be good :) | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Exclude _i18n from import rules https://review.openstack.org/268310 | 19:49 |
| anteaya | you have to have a github account to use it | 19:49 |
| anteaya | well they want shiny then they fall over at reading teh build logs | 19:49 |
| reed | https://github.com/ProjectFirrre/zncstrap/ | 19:49 |
| reed | no license, in pure github tradition | 19:49 |
| anteaya | and just use recheck, because logs are hard | 19:49 |
| AJaeger | infra musicians♯, have a great weekend! | 19:50 |
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| reed | you too AJaeger | 19:50 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks you too | 19:50 |
| fungi | reed: anteaya: what's funny (or not!) is that they actually have licensing information in the various javascript, stylesheet and font files in their webskins, but no license for the software itself | 19:51 |
| fungi | i can't even assume i'm licensed to look at this source code, so i'm going to delete it now and pretend i never did | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | arguably better than conflicting licenses? | 19:52 |
| reed | https://github.com/ProjectFirrre/zncstrap/issues/22 | 19:52 |
| sc68cal | heh. I just looked. It's basically the same setup I run. ZNC with pushbullet via znc-push | 19:52 |
| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 19:52 |
| fungi | reed: good call | 19:52 |
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| anteaya | reed: that link doesn't resolve for me | 19:54 |
| anteaya | anyhow think I'll get a walk in | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new ironic-staging-drivers project https://review.openstack.org/268294 | 19:55 |
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| dougwig | lifeless: i'll spin a patch, along with some readme tweaks found from a minimal ubuntu | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: enjoy | 19:55 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: thanks | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds openstack-doc-tools as a group for fairy-slipper https://review.openstack.org/268313 | 19:58 |
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| lifeless | dougwig: sweet | 20:01 |
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| flwang | AJaeger: ping | 20:04 |
| flwang | we're running into a problem for zaqar kilo patches, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201214/ | 20:04 |
| flwang | because in kilo, we don't have the local devstack folder, so the hook doesn't work | 20:05 |
| flwang | so my question is what's the best practice for this kind of issue? porting the devstack folder to kilo? or check the release in infra code to handle different scenarios? Thanks a lot | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Abel Lopez proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add pkg-map for redhat https://review.openstack.org/268318 | 20:07 |
| clarkb | flwang: I think different projects/teams have used either approach | 20:08 |
| clarkb | flwang: if you find value in running those tests on kilo I would probably go with backporting the devstack stuff | 20:08 |
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| pleia2 | flwang: if not valuable, you could adjust the test to not run on the kilo branch | 20:09 |
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| pleia2 | (I'd say that's the more common approach) | 20:09 |
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| flwang | clarkb: yep, i'm thinking the same thing, since it would be easier. i'm just not sure if that's the best practice since the porting is not related to any function | 20:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove the job filter from the subunit client filters https://review.openstack.org/268319 | 20:10 |
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| flwang | pleia2: it's the functional test | 20:10 |
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| flwang | clarkb: are you aware any other project ported the devstack back to previous release? | 20:12 |
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| clarkb | flwang: not off the top of my head | 20:12 |
| flwang | i prefer that way but want to make sure i'm not the only guy to do that ;) | 20:12 |
| fungi | it's relatively unusual to add more testing to already released stable branches | 20:14 |
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| * pleia2 nods | 20:14 | |
| clarkb | right one issue is if you have to make lots of changes to get tests working | 20:14 |
| fungi | most projects add new testing on their master branch where they're doing active development, and then carry the new tests/jobs over to corresponding stable branches for subsequent releases | 20:15 |
| clarkb | its typically better to move forward rather than lift up the past in that case | 20:15 |
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| fungi | but generally tests or new jobs don't get added to existing stable branches unless they're expressly to regression-proof a bug which was fixed on that branch | 20:16 |
| flwang | those two mongo/redis functional job were running, IIRC | 20:16 |
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| flwang | so could we skip the two jobs for kilo? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | http://logs.openstack.org/41/268241/2/check/gate-dib-dsvm-functests-devstack-centos7/a250e34/console.html#_2016-01-15_18_16_58_368 is what my dib change failed on so I think it is working fine | 20:17 |
| clarkb | jenkins -1 not related and I will recheck | 20:17 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ok finally in a spot where I can code/review properly if I can help o nthe gearman error thing | 20:22 |
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| clarkb | infra-root it just occured to me that I could manually prune the devstack repo if we want builds to start working before a dib release happens | 20:26 |
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| clarkb | thoughts on doing that? | 20:26 |
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| clarkb | would be good to confirm that new dib fixes it, but would also be nice to not be behind on image builds | 20:26 |
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| flwang | clarkb: could i get a sample code how to skip the test for kilo release? thanks | 20:28 |
| clarkb | flwang: look in openstack-infra/project-config/zuul/layout.yaml and search for branch: there are plenty of examples | 20:28 |
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| clarkb | flwang: you basically list the job name and specify a negative lookahead regex to exclude the branch you want to exclude | 20:28 |
| flwang | cool, thanks a lot | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Avoid git clone in integration test https://review.openstack.org/268275 | 20:29 |
| pleia2 | heh | 20:29 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: greghaynes said he was going to tackle it so i've stepped back | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Avoid git clone in integration test https://review.openstack.org/268275 | 20:33 |
| clarkb | oh gotcha | 20:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Rajini Ram proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Updated gearman default port information https://review.openstack.org/267733 | 20:34 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i'm not opposed to manually pruning that repo as a short-term fix, as long as we go back behind after the next dib release lands and make sure it's magically cleaned up all the others too | 20:36 |
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| sigmavirus24 | looks like #openstack-security broke http://codesearch.openstack.org/ | 20:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: kk I will likely go ahead and do that then and see if I can get the process to work properly when builds succeed | 20:41 |
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| clarkb | oh hrm | 20:44 |
| clarkb | so I had misread what a prune does when done earlier | 20:44 |
| clarkb | it deletes the remotes/origin/stable/juno for example | 20:44 |
| clarkb | but the stable/juno tracking branch sticks around | 20:44 |
| clarkb | and that ultimately I think is the problem so maybe my dib fix is not complete | 20:44 |
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| clarkb | so back to reading man pages | 20:46 |
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| clarkb | doesn't look like there is alread a porcelain command for this | 20:47 |
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| fungi | sigmavirus24: broke how? | 20:49 |
| clarkb | need to do something like for branch in git branch --list: if branch not in git branch --remotes then delete branch | 20:49 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: update to the chair and the start date https://review.openstack.org/268326 | 20:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | fungi: it's better now but it was 503'ing for a while | 20:49 |
| fungi | the deployment is still a little broken in that i think it gets restarted frequently by puppet or something | 20:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add DB API method to get tests from a list of failed runs https://review.openstack.org/268328 | 20:50 |
| fungi | so you didn't break it, it just does that with some annoying frequency | 20:50 |
| fungi | hopefully we'll have it fixed soon, but i don't recall who was looking into it | 20:51 |
| fungi | taron: ^ were you exploring that situation at all? | 20:51 |
| clarkb | anytime we add a new repo the service is restarted | 20:51 |
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| fungi | ahh, that's what it was | 20:51 |
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| fungi | seems like it 503's more frequently than that too though | 20:51 |
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| clarkb | can git branches have whitespace in their names? | 20:58 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: no | 21:02 |
| fungi | fatal: 'foo bar' is not a valid branch name. | 21:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | AJaeger: I've basically stolen your patch for 267066 | 21:02 |
| fungi | so sayeth git branch -m "foo bar" anyway | 21:02 |
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| * sigmavirus24 wonders if branches can have %'s in them because then you can do `git branch -m "foo%20bar"` and see how well gitweb/github display that | 21:03 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/requirements: Tweak requirements and directions for constraints scripts https://review.openstack.org/268332 | 21:03 |
| pleia2 | http://www.spinics.net/lists/git/msg133704.html is useful | 21:03 |
| clarkb | google to the rescue git for-each-ref --format='%(refname:short)' refs/heads/ | 21:04 |
| pleia2 | (I believe "SP" is space) | 21:04 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: thanks | 21:06 |
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| anteaya | my understanding of the current hound situation is that auggy had a patch up and that she was going to allow taron to take it over to follow it up | 21:08 |
| anteaya | something about having the config update without having to have a service restart | 21:09 |
| anteaya | that is the last I heard on the topic | 21:09 |
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| taron | fungi: yep, I'm working on updating auggy's patch | 21:13 |
| pleia2 | great | 21:14 |
| anteaya | taron: wonderful | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Actually prune stale branches in src-repos https://review.openstack.org/268241 | 21:31 |
| clarkb | there has to be better way to do ^ | 21:32 |
| clarkb | but I was wasting too much time trying to think of it so went with the naive brute force approach | 21:32 |
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| clarkb | a git branch -D --prune --I-really-mean-it --please would be nice | 21:40 |
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| clarkb | unknown ref would be nice | 21:41 |
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| clarkb | did we get the internap max-server bump in? | 22:25 |
| clarkb | I think we weren't going to do those on fridays due to mgagne time off? just want to make sure we don't forget | 22:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Use httpd::mod instead of httpd_mod https://review.openstack.org/217334 | 22:26 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yes | 22:26 |
| anteaya | oh I didn't know he was away every friday | 22:26 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: I guess worst case we revert so not a huge deal | 22:26 |
| anteaya | jeblair approved it because stasd was back now | 22:26 |
| anteaya | yup | 22:27 |
| clarkb | ya | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dimitry Ushakov proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Update README and move ~/workspace-cache after project setup https://review.openstack.org/258148 | 22:27 |
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| clarkb | (I wouldn't worry too much) | 22:27 |
| clarkb | they have been rock solid and our load falls off right around now anyways | 22:27 |
| anteaya | internap looks happy to me right now | 22:27 |
| anteaya | agreed, they have been very efficient | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add plugin_email_enabled preference by default https://review.openstack.org/241665 | 22:28 |
| clarkb | I am just trying to go through my list of things before the weekend. | 22:28 |
| clarkb | it hsa been productive all things considered | 22:28 |
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| anteaya | yup, makes sense | 22:28 |
| anteaya | yay productive | 22:28 |
| Keedya_ | Hello there | 22:29 |
| clarkb | hello | 22:29 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: did we get anyhwere deciding if we should use ephemeral disk in bluebox? | 22:30 |
| Keedya_ | I am trying to add a nodejs project to openstack. Is there a good example to follow? | 22:30 |
| clarkb | Keedya_: I am not aware of any nodejs projects on our gerrit. Some projects run js on the client side and use node for testing and packaging but thats it I think | 22:30 |
| clarkb | examples for that are storyboard and horizon | 22:31 |
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| Keedya_ | Is the JavaScript.yaml a Jenkins job for node? | 22:31 |
| Keedya_ | Thanks Clarkb | 22:32 |
| clarkb | Keedya_: thats mostly packaging and testing for client side js | 22:32 |
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| harlowja_at_home | have people been getting (seemingly random 503) on review.openstack? | 22:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | AJaeger: any further feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267066/11 ? | 22:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | i just got another one, when using the back button on a review | 22:33 |
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| harlowja_at_home | * https://imgur.com/veCu9lO (screenshot of that) | 22:33 |
| clarkb | harlowja_at_home: it seems related to memory use and GCing | 22:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 22:33 |
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| clarkb | harlowja_at_home: what we need to do is finish tracking it back to that then make a bigger server | 22:34 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kk | 22:34 |
| clarkb | but the threads pile up when memory gets scarce and memory allocation can fail resulting in errors (at least thats my current theory) | 22:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | :( | 22:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | no threads dying or anything? | 22:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | (would think some logs would happen?) | 22:35 |
| clarkb | ya I am trying to find logs for your particular instance | 22:37 |
| clarkb | do you know what change number that is? | 22:37 |
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| harlowja_at_home | clarkb, locating | 22:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | 267131 | 22:38 |
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| clarkb | ya no logged errors for that change | 22:39 |
| clarkb | which I think means the memory issue is still likely at fault | 22:39 |
| clarkb | apache is returning that error because gerrit is too slow? | 22:39 |
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| clarkb | ya | 22:39 |
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| clarkb | zaro: so given the number of threads we run how large do you think our server should be? | 22:40 |
| clarkb | zaro: say if we doubled the cpu and doubled the memory would that be enough you think? | 22:40 |
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| clarkb | 8vpcu 12GB heap to 16vpcu and ~30GB heap | 22:41 |
| clarkb | I would have to double check that that is the next flavor size up | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: puppet-staging is in voxpupuli https://review.openstack.org/264945 | 22:41 |
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| clarkb | if we do a resize then we won't need a ne wIP address but will have to take a downtime while nova resizes for us. Or we can spin up a new host (with a new IP) and siwtch over with minimal downtime | 22:43 |
| clarkb | I am less worried about firewall rules now that https can be used to push code (and git review supports it) | 22:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Wallace proposed openstack-infra/shade: one function for updating users passwords https://review.openstack.org/268361 | 22:50 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: my current (perhaps imperfect) understanding is that it wouldn't make a difference on the cloud side -- so it's up to whatever we want the jobs to see. | 22:54 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: re bluebox | 22:54 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 22:54 |
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| clarkb | I know SamYaple expressed an interest in it because it is easy to repartition to a specific job run needs | 22:55 |
| clarkb | but I don't think ovh or internap give us ephemeral drives so that wouldn't exist consistently | 22:55 |
| jeblair | we could ask if we want to try to make it more standard | 22:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Realize infracloud admins https://review.openstack.org/268363 | 22:55 |
| clarkb | ya can't hurt to see if it is an option across the board | 22:56 |
| clarkb | though it may be easier to get more resources if it isn't a hard requirement | 22:56 |
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| clarkb | that said, SamYaple also said that newer kernels provide a better method for overlaying the filesytems | 22:58 |
| zaro | clarkb: i'm not sure. i think i'll have to look at how much memory is needed for each thread up to make a better determination. maybe get back to you in a few days. | 22:58 |
| clarkb | so it may not be an issue in 6 months | 22:58 |
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| notmorgan | crinkle: so i'm looking at what would be needed to run haproxy and sub-url things a bit more. do we have a doc showing the overall architecture? | 22:58 |
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| crinkle | notmorgan: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/infra-cloud.html | 23:00 |
| notmorgan | crinkle: cool | 23:01 |
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| notmorgan | ahh drbd and 2 nodes. cool | 23:01 |
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| crinkle | notmorgan: at the moment that is more wishful thinking than reality | 23:02 |
| notmorgan | so, if we were to run HAProxy, it would just need to run the HAProxy as the fronting for the services | 23:02 |
| notmorgan | not as the actual LB | 23:02 |
| crinkle | yes | 23:03 |
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| clarkb | right no HA has been implmented yet right? so the actual setup may end up being different? | 23:03 |
| crinkle | right | 23:03 |
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| notmorgan | clarkb: even w/o HA was looking at the general architecture so i'm not thinking about the problem from a way counter to what was decided | 23:03 |
| notmorgan | even if it's pending implementation | 23:03 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 23:03 |
| zaro | clarkb: have you checked the jvm gc to see if it's currently thrashing? | 23:03 |
| notmorgan | because with a L7 router in the front and/or SSL offload there, we could either use HAProxy as the LB or the vip-failover | 23:04 |
| clarkb | zaro: its not thrashing hard but it had a few times today where it did noticeable GCing | 23:04 |
| clarkb | zaro: I can take a screenshot | 23:04 |
| clarkb | zaro: http://i.imgur.com/haElrNQ.png | 23:06 |
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| clarkb | I wonder if we can make those graphs available but not the melody admin tasks | 23:07 |
| clarkb | maybe ttx can read the code and tell us (its written in french) | 23:07 |
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| clarkb | zaro: when it gets really bad and we get consistent complaints the gc graph shows peaks around 10% with consistent GCing | 23:13 |
| clarkb | zaro: so this isn't bad (yet) but isn't great either | 23:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Ask for confirmation when archiving a board's lane https://review.openstack.org/268135 | 23:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Reduce number of live search results to 50 https://review.openstack.org/268104 | 23:14 |
| zaro | clarkb: you think GCing at less than 2% is causing 503 errors? | 23:15 |
| clarkb | zaro: yes, because when it gets higher the 500s hapen more frequently | 23:16 |
| clarkb | zaro: and gerrit itself is fine its just slow, slower than apache is allowing | 23:16 |
| clarkb | so an interim step may be to increase our proxy timeout | 23:16 |
| zaro | i think that would make sense. | 23:17 |
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| zaro | seems like a mismatch in expectations at this point. | 23:18 |
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| notmorgan | clarkb: increase? or decrease? | 23:22 |
| notmorgan | clarkb: cause the proxy timeout is indefinite at the moment, could contribute to connection stacking | 23:23 |
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| notmorgan | clarkb: unless someone tweaked something. | 23:23 |
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| mrodden | haproxy is written in french..? | 23:26 |
| clarkb | mrodden: melody is written in java written in french | 23:26 |
| clarkb | notmorgan: incrase, but as you say thats the risk, I think its less an issue on days like today | 23:26 |
| mrodden | oh... neat | 23:26 |
| clarkb | notmorgan: but major issue on days like when we have to restart | 23:26 |
| clarkb | notmorgan: what appears to happen is we can't GC fast enough and use up 12GB of heap | 23:26 |
| notmorgan | mrodden: hehe | 23:27 |
| clarkb | which then leads to threads all piling up trying to do work waiting on GC | 23:27 |
| notmorgan | clarkb: wait, where are we looking to increase the proxy timeout? | 23:27 |
| notmorgan | by increase we mean make longer? or you mean be more agressive? | 23:27 |
| notmorgan | slash / defined | 23:28 |
| notmorgan | my brain is suddenly not parsing this quite right | 23:28 |
| clarkb | notmorgan: make the timeout longer | 23:28 |
| clarkb | so that on days like today harlowja_at_home doesn't get a 503 | 23:28 |
| notmorgan | in apache? | 23:28 |
| clarkb | yes | 23:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | clarkb, i just refreshed, its def a transient thing (idk how many others though are getting it, i've heard of one other person at least) | 23:29 |
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| notmorgan | hm. ok there are 2 different timeouts | 23:29 |
| notmorgan | actual request timeout and proxy conn timeout | 23:29 |
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| harlowja_at_home | who uses all this java crap, lol | 23:29 |
| notmorgan | the latter is likely to rreally be contributing to connection stacking | 23:29 |
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| notmorgan | since apache is "wait until the response comes" | 23:29 |
| notmorgan | , the first is i think what is causing the actual 503s to the end user. | 23:30 |
| notmorgan | i am inclined to lower the connection timeout, issue 503s more quickly when needed, and then up the response time for the end user to match | 23:30 |
| notmorgan | so we don't stack connections as much, but we give users more leeway before we 503 | 23:30 |
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| mrodden | do you know its Gerrit responding that causes the issue? | 23:31 |
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| mrodden | i.e. not tcp connect | 23:32 |
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| mrodden | or maybe i should say not responding | 23:34 |
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| clarkb | no not sure yet | 23:37 |
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| clarkb | I have only managed to check that gerrit did not report an error with that request | 23:37 |
| mrodden | you said you have a http proxy in front? | 23:37 |
| clarkb | yes | 23:37 |
| clarkb | so it could be either | 23:37 |
| mrodden | if its haproxy you can chekc the http logs | 23:38 |
| mrodden | it has all that info | 23:38 |
| clarkb | it is apache | 23:38 |
| clarkb | and I can check that too just juggling a half dozen things | 23:38 |
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| mrodden | k np | 23:39 |
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| clarkb | it doesn't look like apache recorded why, just the 503 | 23:41 |
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| clarkb | unless maybe the error doesn't associate to the request for some reason | 23:41 |
| notmorgan | clarkb: that might be the case :( | 23:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Conditionally manage puppet config files https://review.openstack.org/243399 | 23:42 |
| notmorgan | mrodden: if it was haproxy it'd be easier to adjust all the things, but haproxy doesn't serve static data very well compared to apache. | 23:42 |
| nibalizer | harlowja_at_home: I get those yes | 23:42 |
| nibalizer | oops was way scrolled back | 23:42 |
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| notmorgan | nibalizer: SCROLL! | 23:43 |
| notmorgan | nibalizer: :) | 23:43 |
| clarkb | [Fri Jan 15 22:31:31.559833 2016] [proxy:error] [pid 17390:tid 140215414896384] AH00940: HTTP: disabled connection for (localhost) is roughly the same time | 23:43 |
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| clarkb | there ar eactually a whole bunch of those | 23:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Wallace proposed openstack-infra/shade: one function for updating users passwords https://review.openstack.org/268361 | 23:45 |
| clarkb | seems like that is apache's response to what it believes is a non responsive backend | 23:47 |
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| harlowja_at_home | btw, other nice to have would be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263678/ (so that the tooz etcd code gets tested) | 23:49 |
| harlowja_at_home | if u folks get some time :) | 23:49 |
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| harlowja_at_home | jd__ said the code is perfect and all should be ok, but this will help ensure that perfectness ;) | 23:49 |
| mrodden | clarkb: i don't typically run apache as a frontend reverse proxy, so i'm not much help there | 23:51 |
| mrodden | in haproxy you get timings for each connection, which really helps shed light on what the slow parts are | 23:51 |
| notmorgan | mrodden: yeah | 23:52 |
| clarkb | mrodden: it looks like I can increase apache logging verbosity for all that info too. Probably something better to do on not late friday afternoon though | 23:52 |
| notmorgan | mrodden: i've done a lot of work with both apache and haproxy | 23:52 |
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| mrodden | yeah, timings would be super helpful. how often does it happen? | 23:52 |
| mrodden | doesn't seem like it would be worth an interruption right now yes | 23:53 |
| clarkb | mrodden: it happens a couple times a day unless the GC time is really bad then its persistent | 23:53 |
| notmorgan | mrodden: i just got a bout of 503s but i wouldn't roll this out unless you're restarting gerrit ayway | 23:53 |
| notmorgan | clarkb: ^cc | 23:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make task project titles link to projects https://review.openstack.org/267633 | 23:59 |
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