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ffrank | welp, fingers crossed then | 00:18 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/309273 | 06:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Change sriov meeting frequency to weekly https://review.openstack.org/312107 | 07:47 |
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nbloom | Hi everyone, I've got some questions about setting up a jenkins job: what does DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST responsible for? and what projects(nova, keystone, heat etc.) are included by default if any during the devstack stacking on a pipline? thanks! | 08:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Run image-update at 10:34hrs UTC https://review.openstack.org/313802 | 08:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add installguide-cookiecutter repo https://review.openstack.org/313917 | 10:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publish sample config files for glance https://review.openstack.org/313919 | 10:33 |
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nbloom | Hi, can someone help me with setting up a post_test_hook.sh for running tempest tests and getting their results under testr_results.html? | 12:47 |
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AJaeger | nbloom: better ask on #openstack-qa | 13:16 |
nbloom | Alright, thanks :) | 13:17 |
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chdzsp | hi | 13:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Document read-write afs volumes https://review.openstack.org/299013 | 14:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo https://review.openstack.org/313935 | 14:31 |
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mordred | \o/ | 15:18 |
* mordred helped name a new project | 15:18 | |
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morgan | mordred: orly? | 15:26 |
morgan | oh haha higgins! | 15:27 |
SpamapS | question for all ye smart people | 15:27 |
SpamapS | where is the super repo documented? | 15:27 |
morgan | the.. what repo? | 15:27 |
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SpamapS | morgan: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack | 15:28 |
morgan | oh | 15:29 |
SpamapS | morgan: we're using it as our source for "most likely to work group of master-close commits" :) | 15:29 |
morgan | I didn't know that repo was a thing until just now. | 15:30 |
nibalizer | SpamapS: iirc that is a gerrit magic feature | 15:32 |
nibalizer | https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-submodules.html i believe | 15:32 |
mordred | SpamapS: yah. I'm not sure it's documented anywhere other than just the gerrit documentation on submodules | 15:32 |
mordred | yah | 15:32 |
mordred | that | 15:32 |
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mordred | morgan: the superrepo is awesome | 15:33 |
mordred | when combined with zuul's gating | 15:33 |
mordred | it is essentially a record of every state that was actually tested together in the gate | 15:33 |
SpamapS | So it's magic.. except it's also something that has to be turned on. | 15:34 |
persia | Is there an equivalent for the -infra hierarchy? My attempts at URL rewriting do not show anything. | 15:34 |
mordred | persia: no - although many of the infra things are in the openstack/openstack repo | 15:35 |
morgan | mordred: neat | 15:35 |
mordred | SpamapS: yes | 15:36 |
mordred | SpamapS: documentation about how it relates to openstack would likely be beneficial | 15:36 |
SpamapS | Right, basically, the thing you just said.. zuul + gerrit == happy ... in more eloquent prose. | 15:36 |
mordred | SpamapS: ++ | 15:36 |
persia | Also, how/where to add/remove projects from it. | 15:36 |
mordred | SpamapS: wait - "zuul + gerrit == happy" isn't clear enough? | 15:37 |
SpamapS | persia: that's exactly what I was wondering | 15:37 |
SpamapS | mordred: IT IS TOO CLEAR | 15:37 |
SpamapS | we need vagueness | 15:37 |
SpamapS | so we can make people feel smart | 15:37 |
mordred | one should merely submit a patch to openstack/openstack that adds a new entry to the .gitmodules file | 15:37 |
persia | SpamapS seems to be pushing a change to .gitmodules in the superrepo (this is not documentation) | 15:38 |
* SpamapS decides to take a stab at writing it down | 15:38 | |
mordred | key points are making sure the url for the submodule starts with https://review.openstack.org/ and that it also has a "branch = ." thing | 15:38 |
mordred | branch = . is the magic that tells gerrit to auto-track the references on updates to the submodules | 15:38 |
mordred | so - you can do "git submodule add" to add the submodule properly, then edit .gitmodules | 15:39 |
SpamapS | mordred: where do the sha's end up btw? I was confused by them not being in .gitmodules | 15:39 |
mordred | then commit | 15:39 |
openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo https://review.openstack.org/313935 | 15:40 |
mordred | SpamapS: I do not know | 15:41 |
SpamapS | I mean, I know they're there | 15:41 |
SpamapS | somewhere | 15:41 |
mordred | yah | 15:41 |
mordred | I think they're just int he repo | 15:41 |
SpamapS | ah yeah | 15:42 |
SpamapS | 'git submodule' shows 'em | 15:42 |
mordred | yup | 15:42 |
mordred | so - git submodule add is probably the best way to add a new thing | 15:42 |
SpamapS | they're in the index | 15:42 |
mordred | followed by editing .gitmodules | 15:42 |
SpamapS | not sure that's where they live, but they're there | 15:42 |
mordred | to add branch = . | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo https://review.openstack.org/313935 | 15:58 |
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SpamapS | persia: FYI, there's a script in the repo that generates the git modules. | 16:13 |
persia | Ooh, nifty. | 16:13 |
SpamapS | Yeah, so pretty much everything !stackforge goes in. | 16:14 |
SpamapS | sans irrelevant things like attic | 16:14 |
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persia | So it is just a matter of running that script every once in a while to pull new things? Should this be automated, instead of documented? | 16:28 |
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persia | One interesting implication of that script is that there can be no collisions in the openstack, openstack-dev, and openstack-infra namespaces. | 16:30 |
clarkb | that was already true for a bunch of reasons | 16:33 |
clarkb | for stackforge too | 16:34 |
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mordred | so - we should actually really only put in things that are official openstack projects | 16:49 |
mordred | SpamapS: so an update to that script which reads projects.yaml from the governance repo and only adds those things would be, I think, lovely | 16:50 |
mordred | persia: there already can't be collisions across those three namespace for other reasons | 16:50 |
mordred | persia: but you're right, that is an interesting implication | 16:50 |
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persia | Wooded mountains are pretty, but frustratingly prone to packet loss. | 16:57 |
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persia | Are there also systems that depend in the namespace separation, or it it just for cognitive convenience of humans? | 16:57 |
persia | Also, are there any sources that identify which things depend on the namespace conflation? | 16:58 |
persia | (Depending on projects.yaml is an excellent way to reduce the dependency on uniqueness in the repos) | 17:00 |
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SpamapS | persia: I believe at this point the namespace separation is legacy, it is not something that is desirable to continue. But I could be wrong. | 17:07 |
persia | I suspect you are right, but have insufficient knowledge to understand how to remove the distinction. | 17:08 |
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mordred | yes. that is correct | 17:22 |
mordred | (legacy) | 17:22 |
mordred | we'd like to get rid of openstack-dev | 17:22 |
mordred | at that point, there will be two sets - infra and not-infra, which I believe we're comfortable with | 17:22 |
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persia | What value does "-infra" provide? | 17:25 |
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mordred | at this point, not a _ton_ | 17:28 |
mordred | but transitioning all of the infra repos would be a very long day and also not worth a ton | 17:28 |
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persia | Makes sense. | 17:29 |
mordred | also - we have a _lot_ of repos, and people already get confused and think we produce openstack management tools :) | 17:29 |
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persia | But that *is* a side-effect. | 17:30 |
pleia2 | it could also be argued that we are a separate open source project, people use our infra for things well beyond openstack | 17:30 |
mordred | pleia2: that is an excellent point | 17:30 |
persia | The solution to confusion is probably better viewers into project repo data and metadata than cgit, but that might be a while. | 17:31 |
nibalizer | also i would hate for someone getting started with openstack to think nodepool was official and get frustrated | 17:31 |
mordred | pleia2: we could move all of the infra repos to openstack/infra/* - which gerrit can handle but github can't - and then just stop replicating infra repos to github :) | 17:31 |
pleia2 | mordred: <3 | 17:31 |
mordred | pleia2: also yes | 17:32 |
persia | There are lots of other projects in OpenStack repos that are inappropriate for people getting started, or used outside OpenStack: I think the too-much-work-for-too-little-benefit is the most convincing. | 17:33 |
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mordred | persia: ++ | 17:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: partitioning-parted: extraced and adapted element https://review.openstack.org/313938 | 17:59 |
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fungi | less cognitive convenience, more cognitive dissonance. the namespaces are an artifact of the fact that we mirror to github and how gerrit does replication, and also some historical baggage of only putting certain projects in the "openstack" namespace once upon a time | 19:04 |
fungi | i'd love it if we could just drop the namespaces entirely | 19:05 |
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fungi | but... effort | 19:05 |
* fungi gets back to sunday | 19:06 | |
fungi | i just cut back a bunch of very large shrubs, and boy are my arms tired | 19:06 |
fungi | i guess the joke doesn't work so well in a landscaping context | 19:07 |
fungi | also, for those following along, the vos release -force is still going without error (so far). we're nearly to the 20 hour mark now | 19:08 |
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fungi | granted, we had some 9-10 days of not yet replicated bandersnatch churn on top of the pypi file reorg, so we may not yet be to the point where it died on monday, even though that was only 15 hours in | 19:10 |
smcginnis_ | fungi, Yeah, the joke doesn't quite work in that context. ;) | 19:10 |
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mordred | fungi: woot! | 21:41 |
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wznoinsk | hi, anyinfra around? | 22:02 |
wznoinsk | I'll leave a note, and ask around again on Monday... | 22:03 |
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wznoinsk | q regarding ciwatch: when looking at the http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=48+hours (time may be adjusted accordingly) and Intel NFV CI* rows, it looks like there are two groups of Intel NFV CI results (each having 2 tests it runs), the Intel NFV CI and Intel NFV CI checks - the latter occurs to appear when there's a "rechecks" word in the CI results in the table in gerrit (i.e.: https://review.openstack.org/#/c | 22:09 |
wznoinsk | /313192/5), it looks like a bug in the ciwatch to me at first glance... | 22:09 |
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mmedvede | wznoinsk: thank you. Yes, that looks like a bug | 22:22 |
wznoinsk | mmedvede, I'll let you do the story honors will I? | 22:23 |
mmedvede | wznoinsk: for some reason we did not add ciwatch to storyboard initially, and did use launchpad instead | 22:27 |
mmedvede | wznoinsk: I'll create launchpad bug | 22:28 |
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wznoinsk | mmedvede: actually, the logic in ciwatch is working fine, for the rows that don't have a 'check' after Intel NFV CI ciwatch can't find the 'pipeline' info in the comment from our CI - looks like we need to populate pipeline info in all comments so let me check our config first | 22:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add missing branches for Magnum IRC bot https://review.openstack.org/313945 | 22:37 |
wznoinsk | https://github.com/openstack-infra/ciwatch/blob/master/ciwatch/events.py#L48 | 22:37 |
wznoinsk | mmedvede: config fixed, waiting for graceful zuul restart so it should be fixed then... I'll let you know if not | 22:38 |
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mmedvede | wznoinsk: awesome. So it looks like it is the same reason gerrit shows it as 'recheck' | 22:40 |
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craige | o/ | 23:53 |
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