Sunday, 2016-05-08

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ffrankwelp, fingers crossed then00:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/30927306:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Change sriov meeting frequency to weekly  https://review.openstack.org/31210707:47
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nbloomHi everyone, I've got some questions about setting up a jenkins job: what does DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST responsible for? and what projects(nova, keystone, heat etc.) are included by default if any during the devstack stacking on a pipline? thanks!08:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Run image-update at 10:34hrs UTC  https://review.openstack.org/31380208:59
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add installguide-cookiecutter repo  https://review.openstack.org/31391710:03
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publish sample config files for glance  https://review.openstack.org/31391910:33
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nbloomHi, can someone help me with setting up a post_test_hook.sh for running tempest tests and getting their results under testr_results.html?12:47
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AJaegernbloom: better ask on #openstack-qa13:16
nbloomAlright, thanks :)13:17
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chdzsphi13:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Document read-write afs volumes  https://review.openstack.org/29901314:11
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo  https://review.openstack.org/31393514:31
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mordred\o/15:18
* mordred helped name a new project15:18
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morganmordred: orly?15:26
morganoh haha higgins!15:27
SpamapSquestion for all ye smart people15:27
SpamapSwhere is the super repo documented?15:27
morganthe.. what repo?15:27
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SpamapSmorgan: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack15:28
morganoh15:29
SpamapSmorgan: we're using it as our source for "most likely to work group of master-close commits" :)15:29
morganI didn't know that repo was a thing until just now.15:30
nibalizerSpamapS: iirc that is a gerrit magic feature15:32
nibalizerhttps://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-submodules.html i believe15:32
mordredSpamapS: yah. I'm not sure it's documented anywhere other than just the gerrit documentation on submodules15:32
mordredyah15:32
mordredthat15:32
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mordredmorgan: the superrepo is awesome15:33
mordredwhen combined with zuul's gating15:33
mordredit is essentially a record of every state that was actually tested together in the gate15:33
SpamapSSo it's magic.. except it's also something that has to be turned on.15:34
persiaIs there an equivalent for the -infra hierarchy?  My attempts at URL rewriting do not show anything.15:34
mordredpersia: no - although many of the infra things are in the openstack/openstack repo15:35
morganmordred: neat15:35
mordredSpamapS: yes15:36
mordredSpamapS: documentation about how it relates to openstack would likely be beneficial15:36
SpamapSRight, basically, the thing you just said.. zuul + gerrit == happy ... in more eloquent prose.15:36
mordredSpamapS: ++15:36
persiaAlso, how/where to add/remove projects from it.15:36
mordredSpamapS: wait - "zuul + gerrit == happy" isn't clear enough?15:37
SpamapSpersia: that's exactly what I was wondering15:37
SpamapSmordred: IT IS TOO CLEAR15:37
SpamapSwe need vagueness15:37
SpamapSso we can make people feel smart15:37
mordredone should merely submit a patch to openstack/openstack that adds a new entry to the .gitmodules file15:37
persiaSpamapS seems to be pushing a change to .gitmodules in the superrepo (this is not documentation)15:38
* SpamapS decides to take a stab at writing it down15:38
mordredkey points are making sure the url for the submodule starts with https://review.openstack.org/ and that it also has a "branch = ." thing15:38
mordredbranch = . is the magic that tells gerrit to auto-track the references on updates to the submodules15:38
mordredso - you can do "git submodule add" to add the submodule properly, then edit .gitmodules15:39
SpamapSmordred: where do the sha's end up btw? I was confused by them not being in .gitmodules15:39
mordredthen commit15:39
openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo  https://review.openstack.org/31393515:40
mordredSpamapS: I do not know15:41
SpamapSI mean, I know they're there15:41
SpamapSsomewhere15:41
mordredyah15:41
mordredI think they're just int he repo15:41
SpamapSah yeah15:42
SpamapS'git submodule' shows 'em15:42
mordredyup15:42
mordredso - git submodule add is probably the best way to add a new thing15:42
SpamapSthey're in the index15:42
mordredfollowed by editing .gitmodules15:42
SpamapSnot sure that's where they live, but they're there15:42
mordredto add branch = .15:42
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo  https://review.openstack.org/31393515:58
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SpamapSpersia: FYI, there's a script in the repo that generates the git modules.16:13
persiaOoh, nifty.16:13
SpamapSYeah, so pretty much everything !stackforge goes in.16:14
SpamapSsans irrelevant things like attic16:14
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persiaSo it is just a matter of running that script every once in a while to pull new things?  Should this be automated, instead of documented?16:28
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persiaOne interesting implication of that script is that there can be no collisions in the openstack, openstack-dev, and openstack-infra namespaces.16:30
clarkbthat was already true for a bunch of reasons16:33
clarkbfor stackforge too16:34
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mordredso - we should actually really only put in things that are official openstack projects16:49
mordredSpamapS: so an update to that script which reads projects.yaml from the governance repo and only adds those things would be, I think, lovely16:50
mordredpersia: there already can't be collisions across those three namespace for other reasons16:50
mordredpersia: but you're right, that is an interesting implication16:50
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persiaWooded mountains are pretty, but frustratingly prone to packet loss.16:57
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persiaAre there also systems that depend in the namespace separation, or it it just for cognitive convenience of humans?16:57
persiaAlso, are there any sources that identify which things depend on the namespace conflation?16:58
persia(Depending on projects.yaml is an excellent way to reduce the dependency on uniqueness in the repos)17:00
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SpamapSpersia: I believe at this point the namespace separation is legacy, it is not something that is desirable to continue. But I could be wrong.17:07
persiaI suspect you are right, but have insufficient knowledge to understand how to remove the distinction.17:08
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mordredyes. that is correct17:22
mordred(legacy)17:22
mordredwe'd like to get rid of openstack-dev17:22
mordredat that point, there will be two sets - infra and not-infra, which I believe we're comfortable with17:22
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persiaWhat value does "-infra" provide?17:25
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mordredat this point, not a _ton_17:28
mordredbut transitioning all of the infra repos would be a very long day and also not worth a ton17:28
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persiaMakes sense.17:29
mordredalso - we have a _lot_ of repos, and people already get confused and think we produce openstack management tools :)17:29
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persiaBut that *is* a side-effect.17:30
pleia2it could also be argued that we are a separate open source project, people use our infra for things well beyond openstack17:30
mordredpleia2: that is an excellent point17:30
persiaThe solution to confusion is probably better viewers into project repo data and metadata than cgit, but that might be a while.17:31
nibalizeralso i would hate for someone getting started with openstack to think nodepool was official and get frustrated17:31
mordredpleia2: we could move all of the infra repos to openstack/infra/* - which gerrit can handle but github can't - and then just stop replicating infra repos to github :)17:31
pleia2mordred: <317:31
mordredpleia2: also yes17:32
persiaThere are lots of other projects in OpenStack repos that are inappropriate for people getting started, or used outside OpenStack: I think the too-much-work-for-too-little-benefit is the most convincing.17:33
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mordredpersia: ++17:37
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openstackgerritAndreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: partitioning-parted: extraced and adapted element  https://review.openstack.org/31393817:59
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fungiless cognitive convenience, more cognitive dissonance. the namespaces are an artifact of the fact that we mirror to github and how gerrit does replication, and also some historical baggage of only putting certain projects in the "openstack" namespace once upon a time19:04
fungii'd love it if we could just drop the namespaces entirely19:05
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fungibut... effort19:05
* fungi gets back to sunday19:06
fungii just cut back a bunch of very large shrubs, and boy are my arms tired19:06
fungii guess the joke doesn't work so well in a landscaping context19:07
fungialso, for those following along, the vos release -force is still going without error (so far). we're nearly to the 20 hour mark now19:08
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fungigranted, we had some 9-10 days of not yet replicated bandersnatch churn on top of the pypi file reorg, so we may not yet be to the point where it died on monday, even though that was only 15 hours in19:10
smcginnis_fungi, Yeah, the joke doesn't quite work in that context. ;)19:10
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mordredfungi: woot!21:41
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wznoinskhi, anyinfra around?22:02
wznoinskI'll leave a note, and ask around again on Monday...22:03
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wznoinskq regarding ciwatch: when looking at the http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=48+hours (time may be adjusted accordingly) and Intel NFV CI* rows, it looks like there are two groups of Intel NFV CI results (each having 2 tests it runs), the Intel NFV CI and Intel NFV CI checks - the latter occurs to appear when there's a "rechecks" word in the CI results in the table in gerrit (i.e.: https://review.openstack.org/#/c22:09
wznoinsk/313192/5), it looks like a bug in the ciwatch to me at first glance...22:09
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mmedvedewznoinsk: thank you. Yes, that looks like a bug22:22
wznoinskmmedvede, I'll let you do the story honors will I?22:23
mmedvedewznoinsk: for some reason we did not add ciwatch to storyboard initially, and did use launchpad instead22:27
mmedvedewznoinsk: I'll create launchpad bug22:28
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wznoinskmmedvede: actually, the logic in ciwatch is working fine, for the rows that don't have a 'check' after Intel NFV CI ciwatch can't find the 'pipeline' info in the comment from our CI - looks like we need to populate pipeline info in all comments so let me check our config first22:35
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add missing branches for Magnum IRC bot  https://review.openstack.org/31394522:37
wznoinskhttps://github.com/openstack-infra/ciwatch/blob/master/ciwatch/events.py#L4822:37
wznoinskmmedvede: config fixed, waiting for graceful zuul restart so it should be fixed then... I'll let you know if not22:38
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mmedvedewznoinsk: awesome. So it looks like it is the same reason gerrit shows it as 'recheck'22:40
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