Monday, 2016-05-09

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ianwhave we changed versions of cgit lately (last week or so?)00:38
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funginot to my knowledge00:47
fungiwhy?00:47
ianwfungi: it's odd -> http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/propose-devstack-plugins-list/e55790c/console.html.gz#_2016-05-04_06_46_51_66000:50
ianwthe 404 seemed to return some body (i *think* last numbers are content length)00:50
ianwthen, due to https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/tools/generate-devstack-plugins-list.py#n4700:51
ianwdevstack thinks that project has a plugin for it00:51
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fungiwish we had a packet capture of that00:55
ianwit seems to happen quite a bit, because there's about 40 projects being erroneously suggested as having plugins -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312335/500:57
ianwok, just managed to get a 404 with some content locally, let me see if i can disect it from tcpdump...00:59
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ianwoh, https01:04
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ianwhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/496434/01:16
ianwso cgit either sends back 0 length 404's , or sometimes a webpage to go along with it01:16
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ianwok, so it appears to be a local issue.  someone wants to run01:49
ianw while [ 1 ]; do curl -i   http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-docs/plain/this/file/does/not/exist; sleep 1; done01:49
ianwand watch the apache logs on that host.  either something screwy with cgit caching or maybe it crashes or something, leading to a mostly 0 response and sometimes a webpage01:50
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Allow using local image for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/19457401:50
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Allow using local image for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/19457401:53
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Allow using local image for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/19457401:55
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run tempest tests with periodic jobs  https://review.openstack.org/29703803:50
openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run tempest tests with periodic jobs  https://review.openstack.org/29703803:50
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove neutron release teams from Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31397604:22
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openstackgerritsandhya proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Procedure to build UEFI based images  https://review.openstack.org/30765504:39
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sub projects to Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31398104:51
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove neutron release teams from Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31397605:18
openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sub projects to Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31398105:18
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sub projects to Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31398105:22
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/requirements: Bump requests-mock to 1.0  https://review.openstack.org/31398405:34
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sub projects to Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31398105:39
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add a best-effort sudo safety check  https://review.openstack.org/30322705:41
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/requirements: Bump stevedore to 1.10  https://review.openstack.org/31398505:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/30927306:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ssh to periodic  https://review.openstack.org/31305106:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental job for Designate's knot2 agent backend  https://review.openstack.org/31353006:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add FIP cleaning script  https://review.openstack.org/30837606:30
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openstackgerritAlexey Weyl proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Change time and irc channel of Vitrage project weekly meeting  https://review.openstack.org/31250906:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Retire operations-guide and ha-guide (2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/31310506:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Adding tempest-horizon repo and job  https://review.openstack.org/31227206:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add post queue jobs to subunit collection  https://review.openstack.org/31114706:40
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add installguide-cookiecutter repo  https://review.openstack.org/31391707:15
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yolandagood morning07:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add missing branches for Magnum IRC bot  https://review.openstack.org/31394508:10
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apuimedoyolanda: good morning08:14
yolandahi08:15
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mescanefyolanda: :-)08:26
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kashyapHi, despite adding the correct bug ID to the commit message, why don't I see the automatic comment: "Fix proposed to nova (stable/liberty)" in the bug? -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314012/08:32
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AJaegerkashyap: we only add this for the very first commit08:37
AJaegerkashyap: but if it's there and the change merges, the bug will be closed.08:37
kashyapAJaeger: I noticed that message for stable/mitaka, hence I was expecting for stable/liberty, too.08:37
kashyapAJaeger: Noted, thanks.08:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Change time and irc channel of Vitrage project weekly meeting  https://review.openstack.org/31250909:01
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apuimedoAJaeger: thanks for the kuryr infra changes reviews :-)09:12
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Cleanup leaked floating ips periodically  https://review.openstack.org/30775509:28
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dtantsurhey infra! as Kilo as EOL, could you please drop stable/1.0 and stable/1.1 branches from ironic-inspector? they roughly correspond to Kilo and come from pre-bigtent times. They are not maintained anyway, the last release from the was made quite some time ago and now new patches are pending09:42
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yolandahi dtantsur ok let me do it09:45
dtantsurthnx09:45
yolandadone09:46
dtantsurlooks good, thanks :)09:47
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AJaegerproject-config cores, could you help getting a new repo for docs team in, please? https://review.openstack.org/31391709:57
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AJaegerdtantsur: is there any cleanup to do for this in project-config? Any jobs to stop or conditions in zuul/layout to change?09:58
AJaegerdtantsur: I see " ^(?!stable/1)" as branch on gate-ironic-inspector-dsvm in zuul/layout.yaml. That is obsolete now, isn't it?09:59
dtantsurAJaeger, correct, thanks for reminding09:59
* dtantsur checks10:00
AJaegerdtantsur: could you send a cleanup change, please? Not sure whether there's more to be removed, I didn't check...10:00
AJaegerThanks!10:00
dtantsursure-sure10:00
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run tempest tests with periodic jobs  https://review.openstack.org/29703810:01
apuimedoDoes anybody know how to change the mailing list server so that it adds Kuryr as a tag users can subscribe to?10:06
openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add bug for TripleO timeouts  https://review.openstack.org/31303810:07
AJaegerapuimedo: ask one of the admins, I think ttx can help you...10:08
apuimedothanks AJaeger :-)10:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add release note doc to dev guide  https://review.openstack.org/31251010:11
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ttxapuimedo: checking10:16
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ttxapuimedo: done10:18
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jianghuawHi, how can I make nodepool to boot servers from provider with floating IP assigned? thanks in advance.10:39
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jordanPhi. Could I have some input on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312172/ (Change urllib3 version to urllib3>=1.15) please ?10:44
apuimedottx: thanks a lot!10:44
apuimedoIt is very, very appreciated10:44
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sshnaidmhi, does anybody know - for what is responsible keyword "job-filter" in jenkins-log-client.yaml in openstack-infra/system-config project? Where is tracked files for logstash are configured.10:50
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rcarrillocruzjianghuaw: you sure can, just make sure the pool matches your cloud floating ip pool name10:53
rcarrillocruzhttp://docs.openstack.org/infra/nodepool/configuration.html10:53
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jianghuawrcarrillocruz: thanks a lot.10:57
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Refresh log files for tripleo project  https://review.openstack.org/31298510:58
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Refresh log files for tripleo project  https://review.openstack.org/31298511:03
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: gnocchi: Add grenade jobs  https://review.openstack.org/30636311:10
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sub projects to Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31398111:31
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove Neutron release team from Dragonflow ACL  https://review.openstack.org/31406211:43
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Retire openstack/designate-msdnsagent repo  https://review.openstack.org/31356511:51
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit for RPM afs mirror  https://review.openstack.org/28952012:12
pabelangerI'd like to spend some time today setting up our AFS directories for the centos mirror. Then land ^ to start the import process12:12
pabelangerstill working on validation, should have some help later today on that12:13
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add sub projects to Kuryr  https://review.openstack.org/31398112:26
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/requirements: Add tripleo-common to global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31407812:31
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Don't enable Q_USE_DEBUG_COMMAND  https://review.openstack.org/31407912:33
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/requirements: Add tripleo-common to global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31407812:39
dimsfungi : pabelanger : clarkb : bandersnatch has not caught up. for example cryptography 1.3.2 is not available (http://logs.openstack.org/45/303345/51/check/gate-nova-pep8/b039890/console.html#_2016-05-09_10_16_52_651)12:40
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dimsfungi : pabelanger : clarkb : another example enum34===1.1.5 (http://logs.openstack.org/66/303766/44/check/gate-cinder-pep8/f9668d5/console.html#_2016-05-09_10_15_23_696)12:41
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pabelangerdims: we haven't run bandersnatch since May02 it looks like12:47
pabelangernow that we have the RW mirrors working, I think we should be safe to let it update again12:47
dimspabelanger : yes, please!12:47
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pabelangerI also know fungi did a vos release --force over the weekend for the RO mirror, I should check on that12:47
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anteayasshnaidm: this is the puppet module where the logstash log filters are set: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-log_processor/tree/12:51
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anteayasshnaidm: system-config consumes that puppet module to configure the log filters for logstash12:51
sshnaidmanteaya, thanks, looking12:51
anteayawelcome12:51
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sshnaidmanteaya, yes, it's for filtering out builds not matching filter: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-log_processor/tree/files/log-gearman-client.py#n74  thanks!12:53
pabelanger#status log released bandersnatch lock on mirror-update.o.o to resume bandersnatch updates12:54
openstackstatuspabelanger: finished logging12:54
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pabelangerdims: running bandersnatch now12:54
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dimspabelanger : do we publish the log for bandersnatch anywhere?12:55
anteayasshnaidm: glad you have what you needed12:55
pabelangerdims: no, we just store them locally on mirror-update.o.o.  However, I am sure we could expose them like we do for nodepool.o.o12:55
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dimspabelanger : would be really useful for those of us managing requirements. there's no hurry as such.12:56
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pabelangerdims: sure, I'll make note to ask in our weekly meeting this week12:57
dimsthank you pabelanger !12:57
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add dhcp-all-interfaces.target for syncing units  https://review.openstack.org/31408612:58
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dhellmanndims , pabelanger : do we need to wait for bandersnatch before tagging releases or is it safe to proceed?13:03
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dimsdhellmann : we can tag releases, we can't merge changes to u-c13:04
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dhellmanndims : ok, I'll start processing our backlog from last week then13:05
pabelangerbandersnatch is still processing the diff from the last week, FYI13:07
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anteayaso I'm glad Zara can access the storyboard server, which I believe was the point of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313510/1 but what part of that patch limits her to _just_ the storyboard server?13:15
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anteayaI'm not of a mind that Zara will go beyond her expected and agreed upon boundaries13:15
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anteayaI'm wondering what part of our tech though is holding up its end of the agreement?13:16
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Zaraanteaya: I sent that patch, after being directed to add credentials there; had assumed there's a list elsewhere that limits me, but I don't know if that's the case.13:20
anteayayeah I don't know if that is the case either13:21
anteayaas far as I know inclusion in that list constitutes the keys to the castle13:21
anteayahence my question13:21
anteayaZara: I'm not quesitoning your actions, you did as instructed, I'm clear on that13:22
anteayaI'm asking from the infra side, what did we do to ensure you have access to just the server you intend13:22
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Zaraanteaya: cool, I thought I should make it clear how much/little I know now in case anyone sees it's my patch and assumes I have the answer. :)13:24
anteayaZara: good strategy13:25
anteayaI always make it clear I don't know anything about anything13:25
anteayahelps me sleep at night13:25
Zara:)13:26
anteaya:)13:26
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use the overcloud full images from the cache  https://review.openstack.org/31239713:29
openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting gate-swift-tox-bandit job  https://review.openstack.org/31410013:30
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update python-keystoneclient constraint to 3.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/31410313:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: fix the way we detect the previous version in release.sh  https://review.openstack.org/31307513:33
openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting gate-swift-tox-bandit job  https://review.openstack.org/31410013:34
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update the review instructions for new lib releases  https://review.openstack.org/31410513:37
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oneswigHi all, Scientific WG here.  We had a question: would StoryBoard be suitable for tracking the activities of a working group?13:47
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Zaraoneswig: Hi! What kinds of activities are you thinking of?13:50
anteayaoneswig: hello stig13:50
fungipabelanger: the vos release is still running, but i thought mordred put in a change last week to switch to serving the read-write mirror.pypi volume instead?13:50
anteayaoneswig: you made it, so happy to see you13:51
anteayafungi: morning13:51
pabelangerfungi: he did, but bandersnatch was still disabled manually.  So we haven't run the update in a few days.  That's what I am working on now13:51
oneswigHi there, so I think the activities are not entirely openstack centric, which is our concern: what assumptions about the nature of the workflow does StoryBoard make?13:51
oneswigzara: things like "write white paper" - no tie-in with OpenStack infra there13:52
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for Manual Build Trigger  https://review.openstack.org/20254313:52
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Consolidate trigger-manual and trigger-parameterized-builds  https://review.openstack.org/31410813:52
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anteayaoneswig: can you link me to an example of a white paper this group might produce?13:53
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anteayaoneswig: mostly this is practice for you sharing links in irc :)13:53
SotKoneswig: StoryBoard assumes that each task can be mapped to an OpenStack project (where a project is not necessarily a git repository)13:54
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oneswiganteaya: research computing equivalent of the Foundation's containers paper: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiWwaKfks3MAhWBahoKHQNZBDoQFggdMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fassets%2Fpdf-downloads%2FContainers-and-OpenStack.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEYlKlvwfpKdSH0OAYbi-A9uvQvdw&sig2=JxRjkRhb77m0J4Bp43Aodg13:54
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anteayaoneswig: wonderful, so first bit for sharing links in irc13:54
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oneswig... not some deep-link into google then?13:55
anteayaoneswig: bit long ones like the one above are best run through a url shortener?13:55
anteayas/bit/big13:55
anteayait is the length of the url13:55
anteayanot all clients make long urls clickable13:55
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oneswigSotK: Ah, that's likely to be a problem if it's something outside of the openstack ecosystem - thanks13:55
Zaraoneswig: StoryBoard itself doesn't assume that OpenStack infra is part of the workflow. The projects currently up on storyboard.openstack.org are infra projects, because infra were the first team to use it13:56
fungii think that url was merely the result of copying from a google search page. the actual for that should be a much shorter one at www.openstack.org i think13:56
Zaraoneswig: and you can link to resources from anywhere. so in this case, if the scientific workgroup is an openstack project, then you'd have your stories under the 'scientific workgroup' project13:56
electrofelixwaynr: hows the rebase of 2.0 going?13:57
anteayafungi: oneswig indeed: https://www.openstack.org/assets/pdf-downloads/Containers-and-OpenStack.pdf13:57
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anteayaZara: oneswig right now the scientific working group does not have a gerrit repo13:57
anteayaZara: oneswig my understanding is the scientific working group is trying to find a venue to communicate with members right now13:58
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for python-keystoneclient to 3.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/31411013:58
Zaraanteaya: whether or not there's a gerrit repo doesn't matter to storyboard itself, though it might be a rule for hosting things on that storyboard instance, I don't know.13:58
oneswigI think there is a wider question of whether arbitrary working groups might throw their tasks into something like StoryBoard13:58
anteayaZara: oneswig it is possible that from that communication artifacts may result which may be houses in a gerrit repo13:58
anteayaoneswig: well right now we are fine discussing the scientific working group case13:59
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fungihoused?13:59
oneswiganteaya: sometimes but not always, I'd say - can't guarantee everything ends in gerrit here13:59
anteayaZara: oh okay good13:59
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anteayafungi: kept, stored, archived13:59
Zaraanteaya: at work we mayyyy have a storyboard instance with tasks like 'find out why the kitchen smells weird'13:59
anteayafungi: housed was what my fingers typed today, I'm open for better words13:59
electrofelixwaynr: few changes for you to review if you've time: https://review.openstack.org/257096, https://review.openstack.org/309733, https://review.openstack.org/309734, https://review.openstack.org/309735, https://review.openstack.org/309555 & https://review.openstack.org/6358013:59
fungianteaya: got it. was just trying to reinterpret "houses" into something which made sense gramatically13:59
anteayaoneswig: right that was the point I was trying to convey14:00
fungithe typo confused me, that's all14:00
* persia interpreted "housed" as "`housed", being short for "warehoused"14:00
anteayaZara: ha ha ha14:00
anteayafungi: oh did I typo? sorry about that14:00
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anteayafungi: yes I did, sorry, meant housed not houses14:01
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fungifor a moment i thought "houses in a go repo" might be some sort of colloquial subdivision of a repo14:01
fungier, git repo14:01
anteayapersia: well I was thinking domestic home but yes, warehoused might work14:01
persiaOh, no, not type, actually, grammar overriding sense for verbed nouns: "houses" being present third person singular of "to house" :)14:01
anteayafungi: neither of us can type today14:01
persias/type/typo/14:01
anteayafungi: let's just not anymore and try again tomorrow14:02
fungitypos all 'round!14:02
oneswigzara: is there any form of sandbox where I could try things out?  What's the effort of setup?14:02
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fungiso anyway, _if_ we stick with storyboard (ttx is writing up a task tracker decision plan to culminate in a technical committee resolution), then we almost certainly need to come up with a solution for tasks tracked by groups which aren't using gerrit for anything14:04
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* ttx is a bit late, as predicted14:04
fungiin fact, if we end up with maniphest, we need to do that as well14:04
anteayattx: I predicted that14:04
anteayadidn't we all predict that?14:05
ttxI may start something today though :)14:05
fungiso i wouldn't see the "we don't have a relevant gerrit repo for our tasks" as a show-stopper14:05
anteayattx: woooo14:05
ttxif the world stops interrupting me14:05
persiaThe binding between repo and project name is just a convention: I believe both tools support not having the relevant git repo.14:05
anteayattx: dreamer14:05
openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project Higgins to openstack repo  https://review.openstack.org/31393514:06
persiaOr rather, don't check to see if the relevant git repo exists.  We'd want to reserve the name, to avoid conflict later.14:06
fungipersia: yep, it's more that we need to avoid creating git repos later which collide with whatever name gets used in the task tracker (unless it's a repo in service of the same project anyway)14:06
fungiright, that14:06
persiaIndeed :)14:06
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Zaraoneswig: we do have a test-instance that's a bit out of date (I think sotk is updating it now), but I also think that your team would be using the same instance as others if we stick with storyboard, so you wouldn't need to set a fresh one up.14:07
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oneswigZara: thanks, Can you describe what I'd needed to get started?  A link would be good if there is one14:08
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dhellmannfungi : could you pastebin the snippet of your git config that sets up the git notes thing (ref? not sure of the name...) so I can experiment with that some? IIRC you said you just added something to your ~/.gitconfig but maybe I misunderstood...14:10
dhellmannmaybe it's the ./.git/config that has to be changed, that seems like it would make more sense14:10
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Zaraoneswig: should have a link to the playground instance shortly... we need a better-maintained one14:11
Zaraon that note, btw, is the storyboard dev instance going to function as a sandbox as well?14:11
AJaegerdhellmann: git config --add remote.origin.fetch refs/notes/review:refs/notes/review14:11
anteayaZara: I would like to see that myself14:11
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AJaegerand then git pull and run "git log --show-notes=review"14:11
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dhellmannAJaeger : cool, thanks. fungi, nevermind ^^14:11
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anteayaZara: hopfully pleia2 is around this week and we can make some progress on storyboard-dev14:11
Zara\o/14:12
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anteayalet's give her a few hours though 7am for her right now14:12
oneswigzara: at this stage, purely getting an idea of what it's about and whether it's a fit14:12
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fungidhellmann: http://paste.openstack.org/show/496465/ is what i do in my ~/.gitconfig14:12
fungithen git remote update in a repo, and then git log and you'll see the notes14:12
dhellmannsweet14:13
fungibut as AJaeger points out, you can also do it with .git/config local to a repo and command-line options14:13
dhellmannfungi : is that equivalent to what AJaeger suggested?14:13
dhellmannsince we're talking automation, I may want to go that route instead of relying on it being present in the config file14:14
fungibasically, but less typing if you always want to see them14:14
dhellmannyeah, for my own repos I'll use your .gitconfig snippet :-)14:14
fungiand yeah, what AJaeger suggests would be better in a job14:14
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dhellmannok, cool, thanks fungi and AJaeger14:14
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AJaegerdhellmann: I do this only on a few repos - compared to fungi14:21
* fungi is nus14:21
fungier, nuts14:21
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fungithe "t" key on this keyboard is dying14:21
anteayafungi: so in backscroll I see Zara has  root access now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313510/114:21
anteayafungi: but I think she is root on all the things14:22
anteayafungi: which I dont' think either she nor we want14:22
dhellmannAJaeger: yeah, I'm going to add some of the review info from releases to the tag message, so your steps work better for scripting. I'll use fungi's method in my ~/.gitconfig for personal checkouts because I'm nus too.14:22
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Jenkins Sounds plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9532914:22
dhellmannnus is the new cool14:22
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AJaegerfungi, the project-config reviewing guidelines change https://review.openstack.org/310929 has now three +2s - do you want to +2A it? Or shall I self +A?14:23
fungianteaya: no, not root on anything (yet), just in the list of users we can explicitly "realize" on specific servers or whatever14:23
anteayafungi: ah thank you14:23
anteayafungi: Zara has yet to be realized14:23
* anteaya wonders where the realized file is14:23
fungianteaya: various places14:23
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fungi`git grep realize` in system-config14:24
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AJaegeranteaya: Zara is real, I've met her in Austin ;)14:24
Zaraoneswig: okay, we're waiting for our interim playground system to update, should be ready soon, so then I can link you.... (hadn't been updated since january!)14:24
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anteayafungi: thanks14:24
anteayaAJaeger: yay, real people!14:24
ZaraI am not a bot, honest14:25
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fungiAJaeger: i haven't finished reading it, but i trust the project-config reviewers know what they're doing, so if at least a couple of them have agreed with the recommendations (via +2), i'm happy to finish reading it after merge and submit changes/additions as needed14:25
AJaegerfungi, it has +2 from yolanda, anteaya, and pabelanger - but seems nobody wanted to +A it yet. So, I was wondering how to move forward.14:25
AJaegerI'm fine with self +A now with a comment that we can always update it...14:26
anteayaI just wanted to give folks time to read it14:26
anteayaI'm fine if you +A AJaeger14:26
AJaegerI don't want to wait another week but can +A tomorrow.14:27
fungittx: can the vmt get some help gaining control of https://launchpad.net/~openstack-vuln-mgmt ? maybe make one of us the team owner, or at least a group administrator on it14:27
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AJaegerLet's do this: project-config cores, please read https://review.openstack.org/310929 - the project-config guidelines. I'll +A tomorrow unless if there're no objections. Note that we can always update the document in the future - still, I'd like everybody to read it so that we have the same understanding of how we review!14:28
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add bug for TripleO timeouts  https://review.openstack.org/31303814:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.versionedobjects to 1.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/31413114:29
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags  https://review.openstack.org/6358014:29
AJaegeranteaya: could you review later a simple new project addition for the docs team, please? https://review.openstack.org/31391814:30
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anteayaAJaeger: sure14:30
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anteayaI'm looking up definitions of quintissential dichotomy14:30
anteayaI think I'll be a minute14:30
AJaeger;)14:30
SotKoneswig: you can play around on http://storyboard.sotk.co.uk/ :)14:31
* SotK finally finished updating it14:31
Zara\o/14:31
Zaraboards and worklists aren't visible until after you log in14:31
AJaegeranteaya, fungi: FYI I'll be on vacation starting this Saturday for two weeks. So, I'm trying to wrap up now any loose ends that I have... I won't have internet on my vacation14:32
Zarathen you can get to them from the dashboard. we're working on making them easier to find.14:32
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oneswigsotk zara: Thanks guys I'll take a look14:32
anteayaAJaeger: I can't imagine your world with loose ends14:32
fungiAJaeger: that sounds like the best possible vacation14:32
AJaeger;)14:32
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SotKoneswig: yw :)14:33
mordredfungi, ttx: I do not see an infra-spec up about storyboard/maniphest - would it be helpful for me to write one?14:34
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mmineshAll, i am new to this and i am trying to perform "git review" from the sandbox to make sure that my device is setup properly but getting error14:35
mmineshatal: ICLA contributor agreement requires current contact information.14:35
mmineshPlease review your contact information:14:35
mminesh  https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact14:35
mmineshfatal: Could not read from remote repository.14:35
mmineshWhen i try to update the contact info at the link provided, i get "Server Error", Any help will be really appreciated14:35
ttxmordred: I'm on it14:35
ttxAt least the first step14:35
anteayamminesh: I answered this question on friday14:35
anteayamminesh: did you see my reply at that time?14:35
mmineshantenna, sorry i may have missed it...14:35
mordredttx: okie. cool!14:36
mmineshanteaya*, i may have missed ur reply14:36
anteayamminesh: okay I'll get you think links again14:36
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anteayamminesh: follow the instructions carefully on this page: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup14:36
AJaegermminesh: if this was on Friday, check the logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2016-05-07.log.html14:37
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anteayamminesh: then read this if you are still having issues: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/3413/icla-contributor-agreement-requires-current-contact-information-error-while-using-git-review/14:37
mmineshanteaya, i have been following this instruction14:37
anteayaon both links?14:38
mmineshah..second link will help14:38
mmineshthanks for your help14:38
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update docs that JJB is not the cause of CSRF issues  https://review.openstack.org/31413514:38
mmineshwill ping you again if i get into another issue14:38
* SotK figures he should mention that notifications probably don't work on http://storyboard.sotk.co.uk/, since its a hastily thrown together test instance rather than something sensibly deployed :)14:38
fungimminesh: in particular, the second link is just reiterating some of the first, but points out things you may have missed in following the instructions. any feedback you can provide on what you missed in setting your account up might help us fine-tune the instructions further14:39
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nikeshmhi14:41
mminesh\fungi, will follow again and see what have i missed14:41
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Raise exception on unrecognized project type  https://review.openstack.org/31413614:42
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nikeshmif i create a dedicated service account for CI with a email address, what type of network traffic we can avoid on this email14:42
AJaegeranteaya: what do you think of my text template for empty jobs with voting jobs at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313981 ? If you have ideas to improve, please tell me...14:42
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nikeshmcan we disable outgoing or incoming or both network traffics on email address used for CI?14:44
anteayaAJaeger: will add to my list14:44
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nikeshmanteaya: hi14:49
anteayanikeshm: what can I do for you?14:49
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nikeshmanteaya: can we disable outgoing or incoming or both network traffics on email address used for CI?14:50
nikeshmwe are working on a cinder driver and my IT team was interested in knowing this14:50
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add extra metadata to the tag messages  https://review.openstack.org/31414114:50
anteayanikeshm: I see that, I'm in the middle of another conversation at the moment14:51
nikeshmok thanks14:51
anteayaothers can answer your question and if they don't then I will do my best when I have time14:51
nikeshmsure14:52
AJaegernikeshm: in case of problems with your CI how does your team want to be contacted - and how does somebody learn about that way?14:52
anteayabut I happen to be working on something else at the moment14:52
anteayathank you14:52
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add extra metadata to the tag messages  https://review.openstack.org/31414114:54
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: automatically submit constraint updates after tagging  https://review.openstack.org/31411114:54
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waynrelectrofelix: it's not, i keep forgetting to do it15:00
waynri'm proud of myself though, i managed to spend most of my time away from the computer for once this past weekend :)15:00
nibalizerlooks like the vos release is still releasing15:01
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funginibalizer: yes, going on 40 hours now15:06
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pabelangeronly another 10hrs :)15:08
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mmineshanteaya, i have followed the instructions and this time instead of using ssh for gerrit, i have set it up for https, yet i am getting same error of need to complete the contact information.15:12
mmineshwhen i try to update the contact information, i get server error15:12
anteayamminesh: what server error?15:13
anteayaplease paste it in a paste service15:13
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mminesh"Code Review - Error"15:14
mmineshServer Error15:14
mmineshCannot store contact information15:14
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anteayamminesh: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/56720/cannot-store-contact-information-when-updating-info-in-openstack-gerrit/15:15
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anteayatry that15:15
pabelangerinfra-root: I'd like to vos create mirror.centos today. Any objections on getting our AFS bit in place for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289520/ ?15:18
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Zaraoneswig: btw, if you see that something is missing on the storyboard instance, please let us know; it's always useful for us to get requirements. :)15:20
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jeblairpabelanger: i'm not quite here yet -- but i anticipate doing some afs work this week that involves dropping the ord mirror -- so i would just suggest that you don't add a RO replica to ord for that (feel free to add the local one on afs01.dfw)15:20
jeblairs/ord mirror/ord fileserver/15:20
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oneswigZara: thanks, will do, but right now it's a very high-level investigation15:21
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove kilo tempest jobs  https://review.openstack.org/31415215:21
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Refresh log files for tripleo project  https://review.openstack.org/31298515:22
pabelangerjeblair: sure, I'll skip the step for adding read-only replicas: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/afs.html#mirrors15:22
jeblairpabelanger: you can add the one on afs01.dfw15:23
jeblairjust skip ord15:23
pabelangerjeblair: okay15:23
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for debtcollector to 1.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416115:26
mmineshanteaya, thanks for your help..that worked.  I was setup as community member and not the foundation member15:26
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for futurist to 0.14.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416215:26
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for mox3 to 0.15.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416315:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.cache to 1.7.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416515:27
anteayamminesh: that would do it15:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.concurrency to 3.8.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416615:27
anteayamminesh: glad you are on your way, welcome15:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.context to 2.3.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416715:28
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mmineshanteaya, looking forward to work with you all....15:28
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.log to 3.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/31416815:28
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anteayamminesh: you are already off to a good start, patience and persistence15:28
anteayamminesh: you have them, they are your best friends15:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make it easier to find 'add task' button  https://review.openstack.org/29422115:28
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.messaging to 5.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417015:29
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anteayaoneswig: has given me my new title for my business card, the harvester of dangling excuses15:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.middleware to 3.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417115:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.policy to 1.7.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417215:30
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fungimminesh: i'm curious if we could word it any more clearly in the account setup instructions, there where it says "Your member level needs to be Foundation Member (not Community Member)."15:31
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.privsep to 1.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417415:31
fungisuggestions are most welcome for clarifying it further15:31
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.reports to 1.8.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417515:32
anteayamaybe a song?15:32
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.rootwrap to 4.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417615:32
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.serialization to 2.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417715:33
mmineshfungi, that would be really helpful as updating the information on the web, just gave us the "Server Error" message.  If this message would have been clear, this would have been easy to resolve the issue.15:33
mmineshAlso, if its possible to provide the message while performing git review, that would also help.15:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.service to 1.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417815:33
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.utils to 3.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/31417915:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.vmware to 2.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/31418015:34
fungimminesh: well, the error you were getting was from the gerrit web ui, not from git review. i wonder how we could do it in git review without being even more confusing (especially since git review doesn't know anything gerrit doesn't know)15:34
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslotest to 2.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/31418115:34
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for stevedore to 1.13.0  https://review.openstack.org/31418215:35
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for taskflow to 1.31.0  https://review.openstack.org/31418315:35
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fungimminesh: i also worry about making git review errors essay-length (really all the potential caveats need a section of documentation to enumerate, which is why we wrote documentation for it)15:35
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for tooz to 1.35.0  https://review.openstack.org/31418415:35
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: [WIP] A common task tracker for OpenStack  https://review.openstack.org/31418515:37
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anteayanikeshm: so I'm not exactly sure what you want to accomplish yet regarding your email15:37
mmineshfungi, but their seems to be check in gerrit where if it gets the check of not being a foundation member, it doesn't allow user to update the contact info.  Hence if that check provide more information, than we should be able to map that check against the error list to provide more information15:37
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anteayanikeshm: in your gerrit ui for your account you can go to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/projects and name projects you want to watch and get additional email alerts on those projects15:38
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fungimminesh: yep, i'm just trying to think through the flow. gerrit tells git-review that you haven't agreed to a cla, or that the cla you've agreed to requires contact information that you haven't submitted, se we can (and should) surface that info15:38
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fungimminesh: gerrit doesn't tell git review that if you were to try to submit contact info you would encounter an api error from the foundation member system15:39
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fungimainly because it doesn't know that until you actually try to submit contact info through the gerrit web ui15:39
ttxfungi, mordred: first draft of draft at https://review.openstack.org/314185 -- with what I could come up with as intro15:39
fungimminesh: unfortunately gerrit also doesn't have any mechanism to interpret errors from the foundation member system, all it know is that the attempt to store your contact information either succeeded or failed, but not why15:40
ttxI think we may want to come up with a list of need-to-have-before-we-migrate. We know security ACL is in there but I'm pretty sure other things need to be listed too15:40
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anteayattx: thank you15:43
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ttxI'll refine tomorrow but feel free to push more patchsets15:43
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dhellmannfungi , AJaeger : I used your tips to add some metadata to release tags in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314141/  and I would appreciate your reviews when you have some time15:44
clarkbare we using the rw pypi volume now?15:45
anteayattx: thank you, looks good to me so far but haven't gotten very far in yet15:45
anteayaclarkb: are you feeling any better today?15:46
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mordredclarkb: yah15:48
clarkbanteaya yes much15:48
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit for CentOS AFS mirror  https://review.openstack.org/28952015:48
anteayaclarkb: oh I'm so glad15:48
clarkbthough as a result I now need to catch up on errands and such. will probably be in and out today15:49
anteayaunderstood15:49
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clarkbmordred ok, we should keep an eye out for more ansible new paramiko fallout15:49
anteayaglad you are feeling better15:49
mordredclarkb: ++15:50
anteayamordred: hello15:50
apuimedofungi: sigmavirus24: thanks a lot for all the help last Friday. I finally got it all to work15:50
mordredheya anteaya15:50
apuimedoand kuryr is containerized as a result!15:50
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apuimedottx: fungi: any idea if it's possible to set up webhooks on an openstack repo for automatic docker hub container generation?15:53
apuimedoso that the project container is generated post-merge when the changes make it to github15:54
pabelangerjeblair: nibalizer: So, I've created principal for centos-mirror using kadmin, and save the password to the local keytab. What's the next step to add it into hiera?15:54
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fungiapuimedo: you can run ci jobs every time a commit merges to a repo in our gerrit15:54
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fungiapuimedo: which could do something like call a particular url i guess, if what you really want is a "web hook" type callback15:55
pabelangerjeblair: nibalizer: the current keytab file appears to be encrypted, and looks like I need the raw key for hiera15:55
jeblairpabelanger: add it to /etc/puppet/hieradata/production/fqdn/mirror-update.openstack.org.yaml15:55
fungiapuimedo: i don't know enough about dockerhub to know what other options you might have there15:56
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apuimedofungi: I can only do it in dockerhub if my user has any read collaborator right on the openstack/kuryr repo15:56
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apuimedobut I assume that since it is all automated, that is probably not an option15:56
jeblairapuimedo, fungi: mordred may know more about dockerhub15:56
mordredwhat did I do?15:56
* mordred reads scrollback15:57
fungiapuimedo: ahh, is that how they ascertain whether you're "authorized" to publish artifacts for a particular project?15:57
mordredapuimedo: yah - what I think we want to actually do is have infra build the container and push that to dockerhub15:57
apuimedofungi: I guess so15:57
mordredrather than have the dockerhub build system build containers for us15:57
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apuimedomordred: well, it would be cheaper for OpenStack to just trigger it15:58
mordredthis should not be terribly hard to do - will just require some work15:58
apuimedomaybe there's some curl it can do15:58
mordredapuimedo: cheaper isn't really the goal here15:58
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mordredwe publish all sorts of artifacts that we build - docker containers are simply one more15:58
fungimordred: slippery slope though... there are projects talking about building 50+ containers of gigabytes each in size on every commit... which i'm not sure we have sufficient bandwidth to support15:58
mordredand not terribly hard to publish15:58
apuimedoit seems not15:59
apuimedoit is not possible15:59
apuimedoit is either have the infra own the dockerhub namespace15:59
mordredfungi: well - so let's split this into multiple concerns:15:59
apuimedoand set up the automated build there15:59
apuimedoor have a jenkins job that builds and pushes the container15:59
mordred"how do we build and publish one more more docker containers to docker hub generally"15:59
mordred"how many of those is reasonable for us to build and publish"15:59
mordredyeah?16:00
nibalizerpabelanger: the hieraedit utility16:00
apuimedomordred: is there anything (except negative reviews) stopping the projects now from setting up such jenkins jobs?16:00
fungifor a project that just wants to produce a smallish container on an infrequent or semi-frequent basis, that seems like something we should be able o accommodate16:00
mordredapuimedo: yah. we need to set up the facility to manage the credentials16:01
mordredapuimedo: and that is a thing that we will need to do in a different location than the build location16:01
apuimedomordred: true... I'm on the moon16:01
apuimedo:P16:01
mordred:)16:01
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mordredfungi: yah. I think adding the facility is a desirable thing16:01
apuimedomordred: it really would be simpler to just have infra own the repositories in dockerhub16:01
apuimedoand set up the automated builds there16:01
mordredthen we can have the discussions of "you want to publish how many things"?16:01
mordredapuimedo: it would not be simpler, actually16:02
mordredapuimedo: it would be MUCH simpler to automate the pushing of built docker images16:02
fungifor projects wanting to shove hundreds of gigabytes or maybe even terabytes of data into dockerhub daily, that seems like it should be a separate conversation i agree16:02
apuimedomordred: why? lack of dockerhub apis for automation of automated builds?16:02
mtreinishAJaeger: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314152/ what exactly do I need to remove? I grepped for the job names in projects.yaml and didn't have any hits16:02
mordredapuimedo: no - the fact that they depend on github webhooks16:02
mordredand we do not use github as a platform16:02
mordrednor are we interseted in becomming reliant on it for any purpose16:03
mordredso for us, it is both easier and more desirable for us to build the images and publish them via docker push16:03
fungiyeah, if we were to stop mirroring to github at some point (there's at least one repo we already don't mirror to github) then your automation would break16:03
mordredalso - it's REALLY not hard to set this up with docker push16:03
mordredit just hasn't been done16:03
apuimedomordred: is this something you could see happening on the short term? (month or so)16:04
mordredI spent a little time on it a while back but quit because I didn't actually have a thing we needed to publish16:04
apuimedo(we'd like to use it for the CI)16:04
fungiand we really have no control over github, or any changes in business model they might at some point decide to make (see our forced transition away from transifex when their business model changed, for example)16:04
mordredapuimedo: potentially - how about I write up a spec for what needs to be done16:04
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mordredand then we can talk about how we get that done, yeah?16:04
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apuimedomordred: if you do. Please add me as a reviewer16:04
apuimedo:-)16:04
mordredwill do!16:04
apuimedothanks16:04
mordredI think most of the things are things you could help with if you had the inclination16:05
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apuimedomordred: and the approval to work on :P16:05
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Reduce the tenants stack create timeout  https://review.openstack.org/31419516:05
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apuimedomordred: thanks a lot for the info! I'll keep manually pushing for now :-)16:06
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apuimedoand I agree, I don't really want github/bitbucket dependencies16:07
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: CI test - never merge  https://review.openstack.org/31419616:07
fungialso, even if this is a smallish and low-volume build/push, it will give us an excellent datapoint to bring to the table when discussing projects that want to do orders of magnitude more of that sort of activity16:08
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fungiwith our current model of build on an ephemeral worker, upload to a staging area, retrieve on a privileged worker and push to the remote service i worry we'll bottleneck pretty quickly with large build artifacts16:11
mordredyah16:12
mordredotoh - if the artifacts are constructed properly16:12
mordredwe should not be pushing large layers with every push16:12
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apuimedomordred: I base all our containers on alpine linux16:14
apuimedothe push is only in the tens of MBs16:14
apuimedo*MiBs16:14
jeblair(also, the new zuul pipeline manager i want to define (at most one job in queue) should help with this sort of thing)16:15
mordredjeblair: ++16:15
mordredapuimedo: I'd also assume that the base alpine linux container is already in docker hub yeah?16:15
mordredapuimedo: so you really should only be pushing your changes in an ideal world16:16
EmilienMpabelanger: hi! tag pushed on puppet-mistral - let's see what happens16:16
apuimedomordred: of course it is16:16
fungimordred: yep, the project i'm thinking of does full distro builds and no layering, if memory serves16:16
apuimedoit's the one docker uses as base for their containers :-)16:16
EmilienMpabelanger: I see the job in release pipeline \o/16:17
mordredfungi: oh. wow. that ...16:17
fungimordred: and wants to build separate containers for every single openstack service16:17
mordredfungi: that seems sub-optimal16:17
fungidaily16:17
apuimedoseparate containers is good16:17
apuimedobut kolla did not really agree with me on basing them on alpine linux16:17
apuimedothey want to have ubuntu and EL based ones16:18
apuimedoI understand that probably it helps with support16:18
EmilienMcan someone infra-root rm http://tarballs.openstack.org/puppet-mistral/puppet-mistral-0.0.1.tar.gz and http://tarballs.openstack.org/puppet-zaqar/puppet-zaqar-0.0.1.tar.gz please ?16:18
apuimedobut IMHO containers based on ubuntu and EL should be done on ubuntu and EL infra16:18
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mordredI mean, ubuntu and EL are also fine and are also things with base images in dockerhub16:18
puiterwijkjeblair: hi, I've been asked to contact you regarding Ipsilon in OpenStack infra by rcrit. We have just merged our OIDC code into our master branch. Feel free to let me know when you have time to discuss.16:18
apuimedoand OSt should keep minimal/neutral approach16:18
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apuimedomordred: but it makes you have to build both16:18
apuimedothat's my only gripe16:19
apuimedoif you have one, you have to have the other16:19
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mordredapuimedo: heh. I do not agree that you need both *personall*16:19
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mordredapuimedo: but I applaud your way of dealing with it16:19
jeblairpuiterwijk: hi!  that's great news!  i have a fairly full schedule for the first part of this week at least, but i hope to pick up work on that later in the week16:20
puiterwijkjeblair: sure, no problem. Feel free to ping me whenever you have time. We can also just schedule a meeting or something if you prefer that16:21
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pabelangerjeblair: nibalizer: the current keytab file appears to be encrypted, and looks like I need the raw key for hiera16:22
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EmilienMpabelanger: it worked! http://tarballs.openstack.org/puppet-mistral/puppet-mistral-8.0.1.tar.gz16:23
nibalizerpabelanger: i think the keytab is just binary16:23
nibalizerand hieraedit.py does the right thing with that16:23
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fungiEmilienM: what's the deal with those older tarballs? were there accidental tags associated with them or something?16:23
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EmilienMfungi: yeah, we had a wrong metadata.json, so tarballs had wrong release number16:24
krotscheckjeblair: Back from Not-IBM Places?16:24
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EmilienMfungi: pabelanger fixed it on Friday night, and were waiting for a new tag, thing I just did16:24
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jeblairkrotscheck: yes-ish -- i have been orientated, but still have lots of "things to do".  i'm going to try do a mix of getting those started and some real work this week16:25
fungiEmilienM: cool, i'll go ahead and get rid of the old/wrong tarballs for you16:25
Davieylifeless: Hey, have you seen this? https://github.com/alanhamlett/pip-update-requirements16:25
krotscheckjeblair: Gotcha. Can I lay claim on some of that real-work time to close out NPM things?16:25
EmilienMfungi: thanks a lot16:26
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fungiEmilienM: done16:27
EmilienMthx!16:27
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jeblairkrotscheck: yeah, what's our status / remaining tasks?16:27
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apuimedomordred: https://hub.docker.com/r/kuryr/libnetwork/~/dockerfile/16:30
apuimedoso for now I will use a mirror repo that I own :-)16:30
krotscheckjeblair: Land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308669, run the mirror command and make sure that the clean exit hook work as expected, then reset the whole shebang because http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/js-openstack-registry-hooks/commit/?id=ee2e5759930917af5a77257c5675b270c379bcf2 - rerun it to update the index.json files, run vos release, release the cron process lock, and hold on to our hats.16:30
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krotscheckjeblair: Some of these things can be collapsed.16:30
jeblairkrotscheck: 'reset the whole shebang' means delete all the content?16:31
pabelangernibalizer: jeblair: Sorry, I am stumped. When I run ktadd -k ... I get the following back: Entry for principal service/centos-mirror@OPENSTACK.ORG with kvno 4, encryption type aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 added to keytab WRFILE:foo.keytab.  But, since the file is encrypted I am not sure what I should be putting into hiera16:31
krotscheckjeblair: Thankfully no16:31
krotscheckjeblair: Reset the sequence ID and rerun it.16:31
jeblairkrotscheck: ok16:31
jeblairpabelanger: ah, just copy the file over as-is, then run 'hieraedit.py' in system-config on it16:32
krotscheckjeblair: Best I can tell, the shasums are checked against already downloaded tarballs, but the actual 'stored paths' for the tarballs don't change, only the index.json files that talk about what versions they represent.16:32
pabelangerjeblair: okay, let me try that16:32
mordredapuimedo, fungi: fwiw, I do own the openstack org on dockerhub16:32
jeblairpabelanger: use the "-f foo.keytab" arg to hieraedit16:33
jeblairpabelanger: python-yaml will take care of the binary encoding automatically16:33
nibalizerpabelanger: yah that16:34
jeblairkrotscheck: cool, i will ping you after i have done some afs cleanup work, (which should help this go faster), probably not today.  that ok?16:34
krotscheckjeblair: The clean actions are listed in a comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308669/16:34
nibalizerits not encrypted, its just binary that stands in place of a password16:34
krotscheckjeblair: Not today and not thursday are fine :)16:34
jeblairkrotscheck: cool16:34
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mordredjeblair: this failed, but seems unrelated to my change. is it a thing you think warrants more investigation?16:36
openstackgerritDavid Lyle proposed openstack/requirements: Remove django-bootstrap-form  https://review.openstack.org/31420316:36
jeblairmordred: what's "this" ?16:37
* fungi was wondering the same16:37
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mordredjeblair: what? you can't read my mind???16:37
mordredhttp://logs.openstack.org/55/307755/8/check/gate-nodepool-python27-db/d34d129/16:37
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fungiso a timeout?16:38
pabelangerjeblair: nibalizer: great, that worked. Thanks16:38
fungitest_dib_and_snap_fail seems to have taken too long to complete i guess16:38
mordredyah16:39
morganmordred: jeblair is magic like that16:40
morganmordred: but the magic only goes so far.16:40
jeblairmordred: i don't immediately have an answer; probably not though16:40
mordredjeblair: kk16:40
mordredmorgan: hey morgan - wanna learn things about nodepool tests?16:41
morganmordred: uuuuhmm  sure!16:41
* mordred grins slyly16:41
* morgan was actually going through the backlog of open nodepool reviews atm.16:41
fungiit's as fun as whitewashing a fence16:41
morganfungi: heh16:41
mordredmorgan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307755/ needs a test - which should touch just about all of the parts you might need to know about current nodepool testing16:42
greghaynesmordred: http://logs.openstack.org/55/307755/8/check/gate-nodepool-python27-db/d34d129/console.html#_2016-05-09_15_00_06_33616:42
mordredmorgan: also, I couldn't possibly let you paint this fence - it's WAY too much fun16:42
greghaynesalthough that might be failure injection16:42
jeblairgreghaynes: i think that's the.. yes that :)16:42
morganmordred: uh. lets just leave the fence painting to someone else.16:42
pabelangerwouldn't mind some help landing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289520 first step for our centos AFS mirror. All the AFS bits are setup now16:42
morganbut i might consider writing tests.16:42
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mordredmorgan: :)16:43
greghaynesheh, the tests are super fun like that :)16:43
morgangreghaynes: lol16:43
morgangreghaynes: oh i had a question for you... not -infra related... sec16:44
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mordredpabelanger: I think you have a typo16:44
pabelangermordred: checking16:45
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pabelangermordred: ah, that should have been delete, I was testing something else, but never ran the command16:46
mordred:)16:46
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit for CentOS AFS mirror  https://review.openstack.org/28952016:47
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morganmordred: clearly you have leakedfloaters in your code there :P16:56
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pabelangermorgan: jeblair: do you mind reviewing 289520 again17:01
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morganpabelanger: i'm guessing you fell into mor<tab> trap17:02
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morganmordred: ^ cc17:02
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mordredpabelanger: so - --delete17:03
pabelangermorgan: ya, need to expain my chars to 4 :)17:04
morganpabelanger: sorry! :P17:04
mordredpabelanger: with the reprepro script, we have it print out what it would delete, write that to a file, then actually do the purge of those things later17:04
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mordredpabelanger: with the centos rsync, it looks like we'd be deleting orphaned files with each rsync - which isn't optimal17:04
mordredpabelanger: I'm fine if it needs to be a "do later" thing17:05
mordredI just want to make sure it's on a list of things to solve later17:05
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pabelangermordred: Ya, I initially did that for centos too. See patchset #1. But talking to fungi, I think the plan would next been write a python script to parse repomd.xml and then validate filelists packages exist on the file system, if so we can vos release, if not, wait until next update to try again17:06
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mordredpabelanger: SO ... there are two sides to this17:09
mordredpabelanger: I believe that plan will work great for the "verify the repo is in a good state" part17:10
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mordredpabelanger: however, I think we also want to handle the case for our gate of someone having retreived the repomd.xml as the first part of their yum command, then we run rsync --delete ; vos release, then they get to the point where yum wants to download the package they had told it to download a few minutes ago17:11
mordredthat's why we want to not delete things as quickly as upstream ... leaving artifacts that would have been needed for the last release action or two17:11
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pabelangermordred: So, if we do what we did with reprepro, then we need createrepo command to regerate our repodata bits too.  However, what is the down side to removeing --delete from rsync, aside from the HDD increase17:13
pabelangeractually, we might not need createrepo.17:14
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pabelangerbut createrepro does have the --retain-old-md flag.17:15
pabelangerwhich fixes this issue I believe17:15
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pabelanger              Keep around the latest (by timestamp) N copies of the old  repodata  (so  clients  with17:15
pabelanger              older repomd.xml files can still access it). Default is 0.17:15
pabelangerso, we set it to 3 and should be safe17:15
pabelangermordred: if you okay with that approach, I'll submit a follow patch17:17
mordredpabelanger: yes. that sounds like it would accomplish the goals, yeah?17:17
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mordredpabelanger: (and also would necessarily mean we'd have a vos releasable repo, since we would have just generated it)17:18
mordredpabelanger: question though - is that going ot need to md5 every file in the repo?17:18
pabelangermordred: Ya, vos release should happen each time now.17:18
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pabelangermordred: not sure about md5, will have to test. Are you worried about the total time to do that?17:19
fungiwe may want to just verify the listed files exist. checksumming them is at least going to have to read every byte each time through17:19
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AJaegermtreinish: commented in review - does that help?17:20
mordredpabelanger: yah17:20
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mordredwhat fungi said17:20
pabelangerfungi: mordred: looks like there is an --update flag just for that use case.17:20
mordredwoot17:20
fungipackage files, in theory, are never altered once added, so we don't need to guard against them changing17:20
fungior, rather, the cases where they do change out from under us should be so rare they're not worth engineering to spot17:21
mordredso if it has the file in the existsing repodata, and it has a checksum, it'll just use that. neat17:21
pabelangerya17:21
mordredpabelanger: if we do that with createrepo ... then how do we purge files that are no longer referenced in any of our repodata files?17:21
mordredpabelanger: (you're making me happy btw, so thank you for this)17:21
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pabelangermordred: good question, I was hoping --retain-old-md took care of the old files. But need to run some tests17:22
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mordredpabelanger: I'm guessing it wouldn't be that hard to write a thing that looks at all the metadata files and figures out what can be deleted if createrepo can't do it17:23
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pabelangermordred: looks like the tool is repomanage17:24
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pabelangerit case output older packages based on -keep flag17:25
pabelangercan*17:25
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add osc-lib repo to OpenStackClient  https://review.openstack.org/31421417:26
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pabelangershould be this command: repomanage $MIRROR.CENTOS --keep 3 -o | xargs rm -rf17:27
pabelangeror something similar17:27
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add osc-lib repo to OpenStackClient  https://review.openstack.org/31421417:28
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Realize Zara on the storyboard server  https://review.openstack.org/31421717:35
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pabelangermordred: looking at http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/updates/x86_64/Packages/ we might not have to worry about purging packages.  I see versions of firefox dating back to 04.11.2015 which is 12 release from newest17:39
mordredpabelanger: oh awesome17:39
mordredpabelanger: so maybe for now we leave what you have17:39
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mordredpabelanger: and worry about it when we need to worry about it?17:39
pabelangermordred: I think we have a good plan if it becomes an issue, but I'd say we move forward with what is setup today.  And keep repomanage in our back pocket17:40
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mordredpabelanger: ++17:41
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rcarrillocruzfolks, i'll be off today and tomorrow17:42
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mordredrcarrillocruz: enjoy!17:42
rcarrillocruzson sick and wife out of town for funeral :/17:42
rcarrillocruzhard to multitask17:43
anteayarcarrillocruz: :(17:43
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anteayarcarrillocruz: take care of yourself and your family17:43
anteayarcarrillocruz: thanks for letting us know17:43
rcarrillocruzthx17:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove Neutron release team from Dragonflow ACL  https://review.openstack.org/31406218:04
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run Ironic functional tests in Identity v3-only  https://review.openstack.org/31369018:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add installguide-cookiecutter repo  https://review.openstack.org/31391718:17
pabelangerjhesketh: when you have a moment, can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294339/ now that clarkb has left a comment18:17
pabelangerI'd like to see about bumping the amount of upload workers we have for nodepool.o.o, since we have ~43 images to upload to clouds now18:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Retire openstack/designate-msdnsagent repo  https://review.openstack.org/31356518:24
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add osc-lib repo to OpenStackClient  https://review.openstack.org/31421418:29
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add extra metadata to the tag messages  https://review.openstack.org/31414118:34
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run cinderclient functional tests in Identity v3-only  https://review.openstack.org/31356218:43
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Group DIB uploads by image name not provider  https://review.openstack.org/31423118:49
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Group DIB uploads by image name  https://review.openstack.org/31423118:50
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: fix previous version detection for repos with no tags  https://review.openstack.org/31423418:52
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dtroyerAJaeger: got a sec for some followup questions about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314214/?19:04
dtroyerAJaeger: to keep the histroy for the bits that remain in osc-lib, we start with the python-openstackclient repo, right?  Does the cleanup happen in a copy before import, or as the first thing after import?19:04
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anteayadtroyer: if you import code into a new repo the best practice is to clean it up prior to import19:06
anteayaparticulary any extraneous branches19:06
AJaegerdtroyer: you use git filter to create a new repo that just includes those files that you want - together with the history19:06
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anteayaAJaeger: ah you are still around19:06
AJaegerSo, create a new repo using git-filter and publish that somewhere - and we publish that19:07
dtroyerAJaeger: cool, thanks, will do19:07
AJaegerI mean: import it19:07
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add js-generator-openstack to OpenStack-Infra  https://review.openstack.org/31424019:07
AJaegerdtroyer: see oslo-incubator for some scripts on how this could be done19:07
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StevenKpleia2, crinkle: My puppetlabs-mysql branch merged upstream, now to lie in wait for a release.19:28
anteayaStevenK: congratulations19:29
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crinkleStevenK: yay \o/19:31
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pleia2StevenK: nice work!19:33
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nwkarstenI'm having an issue with the "nodepool list" command hitting an error. Any ideas? http://paste.openstack.org/show/496503/19:37
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clarkbnwkarsten: you need to add the manager column to the node table. jeblair sent email to the infra list with details a week and a half or so ago aboutthis19:38
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nwkarstenclarkb: thank you19:40
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fungiyeah, nodepool doesn't have database migrations yet19:46
mordredStevenK: woot19:46
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AJaegergreat, StevenK !19:47
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morganfungi: have some questions on that.19:55
morganfungi: I asked in the review re: migrations mordred proposed.19:56
morganAs it will impact things I am working on.19:56
mordredyah. I abandoned that patch19:56
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morganmordred: ok19:56
mordredI agree with morgan that if we're gonna zk the things, there is no need at this moment to add the migration support19:56
morgan++. I am good with supporting both, but I want that to be a clear decision and outlined in the spec for zk19:57
morganBut I would prefer not to need to support both.19:57
morganLong term.19:57
mordred++19:57
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run glanceclient functional tests in Identity v3-only  https://review.openstack.org/31357219:58
anteayazk?19:59
fungizookeeper19:59
fungithough i agree the abbreviation confuses me too. i'm used to it meaning "zero knowledge" in crypto contexts20:00
anteayaah20:00
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add planet blog aggregator feeds to website  https://review.openstack.org/31191020:00
morganSorry. On a phone so typing it out is a lot more presses.20:00
morganUsually I don't abbreviate it.20:00
anteayawas wondering it it meant zuul k<something>20:00
fungii.e., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof20:00
anteayaas zuul is growing the features currently20:00
morganfungi: yah20:00
fungibut in this case http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/nodepool-zookeeper-workers.html20:01
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KiallIs there a room the o/requirements core's tend to frequent? Trying to get some movement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309127/ (A addition to the projects.txt list, rather than an actual requirements change)20:02
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fungiKiall: the requirements reviewers are a diverse bunch, so no dedicated channel that i know of. probably here or #openstack-release are your best options20:03
fungior maybe #openstack-stable20:03
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KiallLet me try release and see if someone there can help before spamming -stable too :) thanks20:03
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pabelangerlooks like IRC proxy is down :(20:08
anteayawhat do you mean?20:08
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pabelangerdoes anybody happen to know if tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 has a default region setup?20:09
anteayawhat do you mean irc proxy is down?20:09
pabelangeranteaya: sorry, my IRC proxy on an internal network is down at the moment20:09
anteayaah20:09
anteayaokay sorry20:09
pabelangerso, directly connected to freenode ATM20:09
anteayathought we were runnign a service somewhere20:09
anteayaah okay20:09
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove kilo tempest jobs  https://review.openstack.org/31415220:10
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run cinderclient functional tests in Identity v3-only  https://review.openstack.org/31356220:11
pabelangerclarkb: When you have a moment to checkout https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314231/ I think that does what we talked about in Austin to better round-robin our DIBs to cloud providers.  I still need to run some tests locally20:11
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run novaclient functional tests in Identity v3-only  https://review.openstack.org/31358820:14
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable image-updates for vexxhost  https://review.openstack.org/31426620:21
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pabelangerproject-config-core: Since vexxhost has been offline for over a month now, I've proposed ^ to disable image uploads with nodepool.  That will help reduce our time to release new DIBs each day.20:21
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable image-updates for vexxhost  https://review.openstack.org/31426620:27
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run Swift functional tests in Identity v3-only  https://review.openstack.org/31365920:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove kilo tempest jobs  https://review.openstack.org/31415220:30
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pabelangerclarkb: so, if we are to bring an AFS mirror online in tripleo-test-cloud-rh1, it appears the mirror name would be: http://mirror.nova.tripleo-test-cloud-rh1.openstack.org as things stand today20:36
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clarkbnova?20:37
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clarkbis that the region name?20:37
fungii'm assuming "nova" is the region name there20:37
pabelangerya20:37
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fungifun stuff20:38
pabelangerI'm sure we could ask for it to be renamed20:38
fungii'm sure we don't need to ask for anything to be renamed20:38
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pabelangerroger20:39
fungiplenty of our other providers have equally strange region names20:40
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anteayaregion one for instance20:40
mordredRegionOne is a very popular one20:41
pabelangerthat is true20:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explode log tars so they can be indexed  https://review.openstack.org/31427220:41
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fungiif vanilla and cloudymccloudface don't pan out, we could do RegionNone20:41
lxslihello dear infra, although oslo.service 1.9.0 has been released, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.service/history.html hasn't updated yet20:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explode log tars so they can be indexed  https://review.openstack.org/31427220:41
lxslialso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311812/3/deliverables/newton/oslo.service.yaml lists a broken relnote link20:41
mordredfungi: I will always vote for cloudymccloudface20:42
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anteayashould it be maccloudface?20:43
anteayalxsli: I'm wondering if the release team would be your best help here20:43
lxslianteaya: do they have their own room then?20:44
anteayayes, #openstack-release I do believe20:44
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lxslianteaya: OK I'll try there, thanks20:44
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anteayalxsli: that20:44
anteaya's the one: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/20:44
anteayawelcome20:44
fungilxsli: http://logs.openstack.org/09/09b5be9976862000e80efed59964231e0ec9f18a/release/oslo.service-docs/4bb8096/console.html#_2016-05-09_15_36_19_807 says it published to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.service/1.9.0/history.html20:45
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fungilxsli: i wonder if this is an upshot of per-version publication not regenerating or linking the latest version in the non-versioned tree when a tag is pushed20:46
morganmordred: just got myself to a place to start hacking on those texts.20:46
morgantests*20:46
morganmordred: pasadena is pretty nice today.20:46
mordredmorgan: lovely!20:47
fungilxsli: i think http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.service/ is continuously published from master, so the last commit to merge on master was prior to the 1.9.0 tag push, and therefore doesn't reflect it20:47
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timothyb89pabelanger: apologies for broken links on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311815/ - I have corrected them now20:47
fungiAJaeger: ^ (if you're still around) i don't recall whether we had a suggested workaround for that publication issue20:47
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dhellmannfungi, AJaeger, lxsli : for release notes we added the job to one of the queues run when a tag is applied. maybe we need to do the same for developer docs for oslo libs.20:49
dirkdhellmann: what is blocking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289584/ from getting approved? It collects positive reviews like a honeypot20:49
dhellmanndirk : summit, travel, monday, ...20:50
fungidhellmann: yeah, the tricky part is that the change to add versioned developer docs doesn't take into account also updating the unversioned docs when it creates versioned docs20:50
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dhellmannfungi : yeah. we might need something special like what we did for release notes, that always builds a version using master. seems icky to have to do that though.20:51
dirkdhellmann: fair enough. You're busy approving other changes in the same repo though, that's why I ask20:52
dhellmanndirk : it looks like that patch was submitted on a saturday (at least where I am) and today's monday (at least where I am) so it's not like it's been sitting there long20:53
dirkThere are a few dozen changes with a +220:53
fungii guess we could have two docs jobs run in the release pipeline, one to update the versioned docs and one to update from master tip (and in the case where it wasn't a tag on master, no harm we just replace content with an exact duplicate)20:53
dhellmanndirk : yes, I'm releasing things and approving the related patches20:53
jeblairfungi, clarkb, pabelanger, mordred, nibalizer: who's been working on afs things?20:53
pabelangerjeblair: I have this morning20:53
dhellmannfungi : yeah20:53
mordredjeblair: also, fungi did something with a --force something yesterday20:53
nibalizerjeblair: hardly at all20:54
jeblairpabelanger: i'm trying to catch up -- someone ran vos release with '-force'20:54
nibalizerbut yes fungi ran that starting this weekend20:54
mordredjeblair: yah. that was fungi20:54
pabelangerjeblair: that was fungi, like mordred says20:54
jeblairand are we expecting to be using the rw pypi volume?20:54
nibalizerffrank seemed to think it was a good idea20:54
mordredwe are currently using the rw pypi volume20:54
fungijeblair: it's been a collaborative effort. mordred wrote a change to serve the read+write volume temporarily as you suggested, i've had a vos release -force going since saturday in a root screen session, and pabelanger wrote a change to start runnign bandersnatch again this morning i think20:54
nibalizerthere is scrollback from the weekend that explains i believe20:54
jeblairfungi: ya, i agree -force seems like a good idea20:54
jeblairam i missing something though?  it looks like /afs/openstack.org/mirror/pypi is the RO volume20:55
pabelangerjeblair: fungi: Yes, I started bandersnatch again, since RW changes landed20:55
pabelangerjeblair: here was the patch mordred did: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312630/20:56
jeblairoh20:56
jeblair*that's* how you did that20:56
jeblairi was expecting a mountpoint change20:56
jeblairbut that works too :)20:56
funginonobody expects the spanish inquisition20:57
fungier, nobody20:57
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mordredjeblair: I'm fancy like that20:57
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fungiwe're approaching 46 hours of vos release -force now20:58
funginot sure how long we should expect it to take to complete20:58
anteayais there any way of knowing if what percentage of done 46 hours represents?20:58
jeblairwhen i was chatting with mordred when i was offline, we thought that moving our second fileserver from ord to dfw would probably be a good idea... was that, and the reasoning communicated?20:58
anteayaah20:59
pabelangerfungi: my money is on 52 hours20:59
fungiwhen it ran without -force last week it went 15 hours before ord complained about an existing file and the release aborted20:59
jeblairanteaya: you can estimate by taking the volume size (284.4G) and divide by the throughput (12Mbps)20:59
anteayathank you20:59
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fungipabelanger: one for each card in the deck? 10 more than the answer to life the universe and everything? what's your metric?20:59
fungiaha21:00
pabelangerI've also been using 300GB as a data point, so that's how I got to 52hrs21:00
jeblairhttps://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=284.4GB+at+12Mbps21:00
jeblairpabelanger: WA says 52.667 :)21:01
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pabelangerya, I rounded down :) Hoping for spikes about 12Mpbs21:01
anteayajeblair pabelanger cool21:02
fungithat puts us completing at ~0400 utc21:02
fungi(started at 23:20 utc on saturday)21:02
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clarkbjeblair: is the 12mbps all we can get between ord and dfw? or are we going to be hobbled to that within dfw as well?21:04
jeblairalso, i don't actually know offhand if that's base 10 or 2 bytes...21:04
clarkbI would rather we didn't colocate in the same region if that throughput is AFS related and not rax pipe related21:04
clarkb12Mbps seems really slow for dfw to ord21:04
fungiif it's ~12 megabytes per second, then it's probably actually a 100 megabit per second (base 10) rate limit/cap21:05
jeblairclarkb: my understanding is that the main problem is the rx protocol window size vs the udp latency between the regions21:05
clarkbjeblair: can we make bigger windows?21:05
fungiexplosives work well21:05
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jeblairclarkb: i believe that will require recompiling the volume server; i think that would be a good thing to try, but the thinking i had with mordred was along the lines of maybe we should try that after putting a second server in dfw and dropping ord21:06
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jeblair(this is why i was asking whether that conversation made it into irc, or whether i should communicate it :)21:07
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mordredjeblair: I think you should communicate it21:07
fungidoes dropping ord mean we cease having a replica outside a single rax region? were you considering creating a replica in another provider instead?21:07
mordredjeblair: I only communicated the tactical portions21:07
clarkbfungi: I read that as mega bits per second not bytes per second21:08
clarkbbut I can maths to figure out if that is correct21:08
jeblairclarkb, fungi: yes, 12 megabits per second21:08
fungioh, what a very strange limit in that case21:08
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jeblairfungi, clarkb: i think the rx window is fixed at 32 rx packets21:08
jeblairand it's a compile-time option21:09
clarkbthats ~46kilobytes in flight at any time?21:11
fungiwhich tops out at that multiplied by the rtt (or is it half the rtt?)21:11
jeblair(super short version of the thinking about dfw/ord: i don't like the idea that if something goes wrong, it takes us many days to fix it; so perhaps it would be better to have 2 servers in one region -- it means we can still take a server down for maintenance and serve RO volumes; a cinder blip that affects one server would still leave the second in operation; and most of our stuff is still in dfw, so if we lose the whole region, we ...21:12
jeblair... have bigger problems; on the other side -- if something affects all of dfw, we would lose all of afs).21:12
fungion the other hand, if something happens to dfw (right now) we lose a lot more than afs21:12
fungilots of eggs in that basket21:12
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: Upgrade to LV 5.2  https://review.openstack.org/30552121:13
jeblair(and also, maybe our tolerance of this varies by content type -- perhaps we should have 2 servers in dfw for giant mirrors, but if we put docs in afs, put those in multi-regions -- they will be smaller volumes and the transfer time won't bother us as much)21:13
mordredyah. and the rebuild time there is not as big of an issue21:13
jeblair2-3 days for pypi is just long enough to be annoying; a week for npm is :(21:13
jeblairbut even, say, a few hours for docs is okay21:14
fungilots and lots of isinteger() to sync there21:14
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openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disaster Recovery new repo for the Freezer Project  https://review.openstack.org/31428521:15
jeblairi'm optimistic about the '-force' option though -- if that works, at least we will have learned how to correct issues like this much faster in the future21:16
mordred++21:17
fungii also read up on the salvager, but was hesitant to give that a try except possibly as a last resort21:18
clarkbfungi: appears to be * rtt21:18
clarkbdoing that gives me ~15mbps21:18
fungiclarkb: oh, right because you need to find out that you're clear to resume sending21:18
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fungiso that's the second half of the rtt in play21:19
jeblairfungi: yeah, the RW volume is in good shape, so i think we'd want to avoid that21:19
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clarkber my maths are off but I think the result is basically the same21:19
fungiit looked like a salvage of the read-only volume might allow us to release to it again, but i also may have misread21:19
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clarkbya because 1000ms/33ms ~= 3321:20
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clarkbso anyways the theoretical limit here appears to be reached21:20
jeblairfungi: ok.  if i were to try that, i'd probably only do so after rsyncing the data to a second, unrelated volume (if i had a choice) :)21:20
jeblairi do also have a bunch of options from some folks at cern to try (or make sure we have equivalents set), but they (and i) don't think they will actually address wan throughput21:21
openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disaster Recovery new repo for the Freezer Project  https://review.openstack.org/31428521:21
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mordredclarkb: also - 33ms is good - I'm currenlty getting 47-54ms latency between dfw and ord21:21
clarkbmordred: I pinged afs01.ord from afs01.dfw21:22
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clarkband got just under 33ms21:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add support for host aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/31093721:22
mordredyah. same here. just saying - cloud - so fluctuations21:22
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mordredI mean, I did the same thing and saw 31 once, but mostly in 40s and 50s21:22
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mordredI see 0.2-0.4ms for dfw->dfw21:22
mordredwhich backs up the "syncing in the same region is likely to work much better" theory21:23
jeblairso my best guess for how to actually improve throughput is to increase the window with a recompile.  but like i said, that's not an immediate solution.  so i guess the question for us is whether in the interim, we are comfortable with the status quo of "if something goes wrong, it may take us N days to resync a volume" or we would like to improve that by sacrificing a little bit of resiliency for mirror data?21:23
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Always apt-get update after replacing sources  https://review.openstack.org/30000521:24
fungithat ^ is apparently still needed to be able to bootstrap a replacement openstackid-dev.o.o server :/21:24
anteayaI think the amount of time this is taking is only working since we are week after summit21:24
anteayaif we had to take several days to get mirrors back up during busier times, we would be in trouble21:25
anteayameaning very stressed with many very stressed people waiting for us21:25
mordredanteaya: I agree21:25
jeblairanteaya: well, to be fair, mirrors have been up the whole time, and they are even currently updating :)21:25
anteayaah sorry, I mis-spoke21:25
anteayamirrors updated21:26
jeblaireven our failure scenario has a failure scenario21:26
mordredI am comfortable with going single region for now - and then spend time looking at multi-region/multi-cloud disaster recovery options21:26
mordredjeblair: ++21:26
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anteayaI know dims and dhellmann have had to rearrange their schedules based on our progress21:26
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pabelangerI agree, like fungi said, if we lose DFW we likely have larger issues then AFS21:27
mordredyah21:27
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mordredwhich is why I think we should consider that as part of DR rather than daily ops21:28
openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disaster Recovery new repo for the Freezer Project  https://review.openstack.org/31428521:28
mordred2 servers in the same region gets us safe from accidental server deletion, and possibly from a single hypervisor going bong - but doesn't save us from region-wide outage21:28
mordredbut we're screwed currently if DFW goes down anyway21:28
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: zuul: add missing layout for puppet-ceph/tarball jobs  https://review.openstack.org/31429221:28
jeblairbasically, i'd like to avoid making the decision based on the idea that if we get into this situation, the project stops working for a week -- that hasn't happened, and doesn't need to in the future.  however, i like things to be running on all cylinders as often as possible, and as a sysadmin, i don't like really long recovery times, so that's why i lean towards hosting mirrors in dfw only for now21:29
fungiyeah, i'd hate to think of what we'd be going through if one of our more important systems was hit by the issue that knocked out openstackid-dev.o.o21:29
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jeblairfungi: what was that?21:29
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fungihost failed, and support was unable to recover the instance's filesystem21:29
jeblairnice.21:30
jeblairwe should check up on bup.21:30
fungiso for something like review.o.o that wouldn't be a problem (data in cinder and trove)21:30
jeblairclarkb: what do you think re dfw/ord?21:30
fungibut stuff where we still have a lot of data locally and don't know how to rebuild the software to put it back (e.g. wiki.o.o) it could be a lot worse21:30
mordredfungi: ya. I'd like to start spending some legit time thinking about DR21:31
clarkbjeblair: I think that putting the ro mirror in dfw will positively impact throughput by reducing the rtt21:31
clarkbby an order of magnitude or so21:31
clarkbI am just amazed that the window size here is so tiny21:31
mordredbigger window is apparently one of the changes in the non-free AFS upsell thing21:32
fungiudp-based protocol tuned 20 years ago when there was a lot less room on the wire21:32
clarkbfungi: ya but windows exist to automaically scale up and down to accomodate that but also to accomodate big pipes21:32
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fungitrue21:33
clarkbif you look at tcp you get a 16 bit field with a scale factor, this is a 5 bit field? its a huge difference21:33
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fungilikely seemed like a big number at the time21:33
clarkbanyways I agree same DC fs server will be quicker due to reduced rtt21:33
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clarkbinto the ~120mbps range if we assume rtt of 3ms average (I did that math correctly right?)21:39
clarkbinto the 7 hour range for pypi?21:40
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mordredclarkb: and it should be ~1200mbs if we get rtt of 0.3ms yeah?21:40
clarkbmordred: ya, I think reality will be closer to 1ms21:41
mordredyah21:41
mordredin any case- we're then into the realm where other realities start to affect a full resync21:41
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clarkbyes 3ms won't tax the inter region tubes (at least not judging based on the bw limits they set) but sub 1ms would21:42
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ffranki kinda cannot help but things that you cats could really use AFS+RxOSD ><'21:47
ffrankthink*21:48
pabelangerclarkb: a quick grep show why our nodepool uploads might be slow: http://paste.openstack.org/show/496518/ we do 1 provider at a time21:49
* krotscheck is having a hard time finding a name for an openstack js lib21:50
clarkbpabelanger: yup we go provider by prvider21:50
clarkbpabelanger: which is what the go image by image idea was meant to fix21:50
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pabelangerclarkb: Ya, my first attempt at fixing it today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314231/ going to try and test it tomorrow locally21:50
pabelangershould see if I can write a unit test for that21:51
mordredffrank: is that landing/merging any time?21:51
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mordredffrank: looks like there was at least some initial groundwork in 2014 ish21:52
ffrankright. and no - last I heard it's not bound for mainline ever21:52
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mordredoh. well bleh then21:52
timl0101is there a way to resumbit a change to jenkins if the failures seem to be from problems on the jenkins host?21:52
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ffrankalthough 2014 is much more recent news than I was aware of21:52
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mordredffrank: http://git.openafs.org/?p=openafs.git;a=commit;h=68629367d1da0b073e682ddb7b7523a7ee8f01c121:53
mordredthere's also this: https://indico.cern.ch/event/271400/contributions/1610363/attachments/487822/674360/AFS-OSD-state-and-future.pdf21:53
openstackgerritFausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disaster Recovery new repo for the Freezer Project  https://review.openstack.org/31428521:54
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clarkbpabelanger: commented, I think that uploadImage does the correct thing with image.name there and should not be changed21:56
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ffrankthat. is. amazing. on a lot of levels.21:56
pabelangerclarkb: checking21:57
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pabelangerclarkb: looks like you are right, thanks21:58
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Group DIB uploads by image name  https://review.openstack.org/31423121:58
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pabelangerclarkb: if we can get jhesketh to update his vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294339/ we should be able to land that shortly21:59
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/requirements: Bump uc for oslo.service 1.10.0  https://review.openstack.org/31430722:00
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lifelessDaviey: yes22:03
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explode log tars so they can be indexed  https://review.openstack.org/31427222:03
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Record Heat resource deployment times to Graphite  https://review.openstack.org/31430822:03
lifelessDaviey: it doesn't do what we need :)22:04
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clarkbpabelanger: sorry one more thing I just noticed otherwise it lgtm22:05
pabelangerclarkb: np, like I said, haven't tested it locally22:06
clarkbpabelanger: well it will function its just less efficient than it could be )22:06
clarkbpabelanger: the test suite should cover it reasonably well too, granted for full functional testing we only uipload a single image to a single provider so it may not catch weird corner cases22:07
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anteayatiml0101: what is the patch url in question?22:07
mordredlifeless: there are times when you respond to people22:07
timl0101this one:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312237/22:08
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Group DIB uploads by image name  https://review.openstack.org/31423122:08
pabelangerclarkb: okay, that should be what you asked.  And ya, devstack seemed happy about the code too22:08
pabelangerthinking about it, not sure I have the cloud resources to actually test this beyond what devstack testing does22:09
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clarkbpabelanger: you can write a new test case that uploads multiple images to multiple providers in the py27 target22:10
clarkbwe may have one of those already, not sure22:10
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anteayamordred: you reviewed the shade patch timl0101 is asking about22:11
lifelessmordred: there are22:11
Davieylifeless: I just thought it's a NIH tool that is /similar/ to what is needed..22:11
Davieynot-a-NIH22:11
mordredlifeless, Daviey which tool?22:11
mordredanteaya: looking22:11
pabelangerclarkb: ya, we have test_dib_upload_fail I can likely expand on22:11
anteayamordred: thank you22:12
Davieymordred: https://github.com/alanhamlett/pip-update-requirements22:12
Davieyanyway, if it makes no sense.. ok. :)22:13
mordredDaviey: ah. that. cool. thanks22:13
clarkbDaviey: looks like all that does is push everything to latest, it doesn't do any dep resolution?22:13
mordredtiml0101: yah - you can just leave a comment on the change "recheck" and it'll re-run it through the thing22:13
timl0101awesome.  thank you22:14
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Davieyclarkb: fair.. is it worth trying to extend that.. or just not?22:14
clarkbDaviey: that is a better question for lifeless, just pointing out it doesn't actually do something useful today22:15
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: New project: js-openstack  https://review.openstack.org/31431222:15
clarkb(it is trivial to bump everything to max and yolo)22:15
lifelessDaviey: it existed before generate-constraints22:17
lifelessDaviey: its not useful to us, because we support multiple python versions and we want transitive deps handle automatically22:17
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Test we group dib uploads by image name  https://review.openstack.org/31431522:30
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pabelangerguess I need to update nodepool to support sqlite for python27 env.  Don't have mysql running locally22:32
clarkbpabelanger: I think we decided to not bother22:33
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clarkbsince sqlite isn't capable of running nodepool22:33
pabelangerclarkb: ah. I think I actually patch nodepool a while back to do it. Cannot remember22:33
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pabelangerbut makes sense why we don't do it out of box22:34
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jeblairi don't think we should add code to support a method of use that does not work (or that we do not want to use)22:34
pabelangertrue22:34
pabelangerjust means I have to stop being lazy and setup mysql locally22:35
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clarkbpabelanger: I have a docker contianer that runs it for me making it easier to stop running most of the time22:39
jheskethMorning22:41
pabelangermorning22:42
anteayamorning jhesketh22:42
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mordredmorning jhesketh22:44
jhesketho/22:45
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Test we group dib uploads by image name  https://review.openstack.org/31431522:50
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/30927323:00
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pabelangerjhesketh: sorry to ping you again, but do you think you can look into 294339 today.  We're starting to see some delays in uploading images in nodepool.o.o and increasing our upload_workers could fix that.  We're up to 43 DIBs now23:03
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openstackgerritChristopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add App Ecosystem WG meeting  https://review.openstack.org/31432223:05
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greghayneswow thats a lot of dibs23:09
clarkbits actually not that many dibs23:11
clarkbits that many uploads23:11
greghaynesah23:11
pabelangerya, my mistake23:11
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Test we group dib uploads by image name  https://review.openstack.org/31431523:11
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pabelangeractually its 54 uploads (6 DIBs over 9 clouds)23:12
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pabelangeronly tripleo cloud is still doing a snapshot, but I have a patch in flight to fix that23:13
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pabelangerwas hoping to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313630/ stack today, but uploads almost 8 hours in 31 left23:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add support for server groups  https://review.openstack.org/31223723:33
pabelangerclarkb: woah, something just cancelled our image uploads23:33
pabelangerwe went from 31 uploads to 023:34
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jheskethpabelanger: sure. clarkb answered my question so lgtm23:35
jheskethDid you want me to merge it?23:35
pabelangerjhesketh: great. lets see what clarkb says23:35
pabelangerI'll need to get a patch to puppet-nodepool to expose them however23:36
clarkbpabelanger: possible the timed out and gearman cancelled them23:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: UC bumps for oslo releases for week of may 2nd  https://review.openstack.org/31181323:39
pabelangerclarkb: okay, as long as you know what is going on23:39
pabelangerit was about 8+ hours23:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Bump upper-constraints on magnumclient to 2.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/31191123:40
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lifelessdims: around?23:42
lifelessdims: if so there was a thing in the requirements team etherpad about bad versions being proposed?23:43
lifelessdims: something about year vs semver?23:43
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Expose nodepool-builder worker settings  https://review.openstack.org/31432923:46
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Expose nodepool-builder worker settings  https://review.openstack.org/31432923:49
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Expose nodepool-builder workers settings  https://review.openstack.org/31433123:50
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Switch to 12 upload-workers for nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/31433223:53
pabelangerclarkb: jeblair I think we said 12 upload-workers at the last midcycle, is that correct? ^23:53
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Switch to 12 upload-workers for nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/31433223:54
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jeblairpabelanger: 16?23:55
jeblairpabelanger: my memory is a little fuzzy; we could probably check eavesdrop23:55
jeblairor just pick a number and try :)23:55
pabelangerlets start with 12!23:55
pabelanger:D23:55
asselin_pabelanger, how did you decide 1 build and 4 upload by default?23:56
pabelangerasselin_: they are the current defaults for nodepool-builder23:56
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asselin_ok. Also, I recently found that by setting the variable default to undef, it will use the default in the sub-module.23:57
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asselin_We haven't been doing this, but what do you think about that? e.g. here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314331/1/manifests/nodepool.pp23:58
asselin_ I dislike how we copy and paste defaults everywhere.....could be fixed as a separate patch though.23:58
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pabelangerasselin_: as long as we don't need a bunch of if != undef logic for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314329/2/templates/nodepool-builder.default.erb23:59

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