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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Zuul v3: Add section on secrets https://review.openstack.org/386281 | 00:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Freezer: add freezer support https://review.openstack.org/389706 | 00:06 |
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jeblair | fungi, rcarrillocruz, clarkb, mordred: please see https://review.openstack.org/386281 when you have a moment. | 00:06 |
jeblair | fungi: notably, that includes a change which i think eliminates the thing i was least comfortable with -- the possibility of copying secrets to other repos and exposing them | 00:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add external openvswitch test target to kolla-kubernetes https://review.openstack.org/395878 | 00:42 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Zuul v3: Add section on secrets https://review.openstack.org/386281 | 00:59 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add a hint of project-config repository https://review.openstack.org/330320 | 01:30 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add ssh timeout to client https://review.openstack.org/329799 | 01:45 |
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openstackgerrit | chenhb proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [Rally]Add neutron extensions service test job https://review.openstack.org/395432 | 01:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Naoya Harada proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Tacker jobs to include api-ref check https://review.openstack.org/395902 | 02:30 |
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ianw | clarkb: i think we need to clear gearman of upload jobs | 02:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Sampath Priyankara proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Change the LP for tracking bugs and milestones https://review.openstack.org/395920 | 03:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Cleanup yumdownloader repos https://review.openstack.org/395921 | 03:26 |
ianw | clarkb: ^ that won't hurt things either | 03:27 |
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openstackgerrit | fumihiko kakuma proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow to run post_devstack_hook https://review.openstack.org/395922 | 03:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Dorman proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Saltstack plugin builder https://review.openstack.org/391567 | 04:10 |
openstackgerrit | fumihiko kakuma proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow to run post_devstack_hook https://review.openstack.org/395922 | 04:11 |
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persia | Is this a sensible place to complain about IRC spammers in #openstack-* ? There's one in #openstack-ansible currently. | 04:20 |
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ianw | persia: yes, i'm not sure who can ban them at this point however | 04:28 |
ianw | i mean, people who are awake | 04:28 |
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ianw | clarkb: also, there were a ton of delete jobs that were stuck in the gearman queue, which got stuck because we'd deleted the providers from the config so the couldn't delete. i've fixed this up (rather hackishly, by just commenting out looking up the provider in the delete method temporarily) but i believe we're back on track | 04:32 |
ianw | there seems to be a pretty frequent 504 timeout on osic-cloud8 trying to upload | 04:33 |
persia | ianw: Asking chanserv for the access list shows several people in the antipodes with access who are also in this channel, but I don't know if that list is a ping-invite list, or just a legacy access list (some of those folk don't seem very active in this channel) | 04:34 |
persia | (also, all sorted now, according to my logs) | 04:34 |
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cloudnull | ianw: is it only cloud8 ? | 04:37 |
ianw | cloudnull: i think so. i got new f24 images upload to the others | 04:38 |
cloudnull | cloud8 was decom'd a couple weeks back, idk what the state of it is ( mrhillsman can expand on that when he's around ) but I think it's safe to skip those image uploads at this time. | 04:38 |
ianw | cloudnull: ok, that's good info, thanks :) | 04:39 |
cloudnull | sorry I dont have more data there. | 04:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove osic-cloud8 https://review.openstack.org/395941 | 04:42 |
ianw | cloudnull: ^ ? seem right | 04:43 |
ianw | the images there are 6-8 days old, so presumably it's been broken for around that long | 04:44 |
dmsimard | Any known issues with rax right now ? Re-checked a particular review like 5 times and still plagued with mirror issues, ex: http://logs.openstack.org/65/391965/11/check/gate-ara-integration-2.1.2.0-centos-7/8b4059e/console.html#_2016-11-10_04_02_02_281939 | 04:44 |
dmsimard | Always with rax. | 04:45 |
ianw | dmsimard: hmm, bunch of i/o issues for cinder volume | 04:47 |
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ianw | dmsimard: actually, that's from yesterday, so yeah, mirror host seems ok | 04:48 |
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ianw | no, i tell a lie; ls /afs is not happy | 04:49 |
ianw | well it's pinging everything ok (afs servers / db etc) | 04:55 |
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ianw | dmsimard: well AFS seemed to be all tied up somehow. i've rebooted it, and it seems OK? let me know | 05:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Naoya Harada proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Tacker jobs to include api-ref check https://review.openstack.org/395902 | 05:09 |
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tonyb | I'm seeing a few jobs (sorry I can't be more scientific than that right now) in the requirements repo appearing to timeout at the apt-get update step | 06:02 |
tonyb | see: http://logs.openstack.org/95/395895/2/check/gate-requirements-docs-ubuntu-xenial/7680858/console.html#_2016-11-10_03_44_31_488800 | 06:02 |
tonyb | Is this seomtthing people have seen / know about ? | 06:03 |
openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Cleanup yumdownloader repos https://review.openstack.org/395921 | 06:03 |
ianw | tonyb: about an hour ago i rebooted the rax.iad mirror as it was unresponsive | 06:03 |
ianw | tonyb: that job was rax.iad so likely due to that. should be ok if you retry | 06:04 |
tonyb | okay thanks | 06:04 |
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ianw | #status Issue with IAD rax mirror should be resolved. If your job failed on a Rackspace/IAD node, please retry | 06:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Nikitin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add one new Fuel's plugin https://review.openstack.org/390373 | 07:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Sreeram Vancheeswaran proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Request to add new project nova-dpm https://review.openstack.org/395560 | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental Neutron DVR+HA multinode job https://review.openstack.org/383742 | 07:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add gerritbot notification for python-nimbleclient https://review.openstack.org/395989 | 07:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Restrict nova-net grenade jobs to <= Newton https://review.openstack.org/393400 | 07:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Restrict gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full-ubuntu-xenial to Newton https://review.openstack.org/395793 | 07:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: rally: enable panko devstack plugin for Newton+ only https://review.openstack.org/395681 | 07:42 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: networking-odl: adopt DEVSTACK_GATE_SETTINGS https://review.openstack.org/394563 | 07:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Ceph FS Charm https://review.openstack.org/390406 | 07:44 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Drop group for charm-lxd https://review.openstack.org/395573 | 07:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Arie Bregman proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add support for limits https://review.openstack.org/395235 | 07:59 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/395999 | 08:07 |
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yolanda | good morning | 08:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix senlin integration test https://review.openstack.org/395410 | 08:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Introduce branch-based scenario tests https://review.openstack.org/396008 | 08:27 |
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jaosorior | yolanda: hey, in the project-config repo and the zuul/layout.yaml file. Is there a way I can get the branch that a commit is being ran on for the regex used on a file? For instance, to include the branch name in the name of the file here https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L1561 | 08:44 |
openstackgerrit | Arie Bregman proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add compute usage support https://review.openstack.org/393873 | 08:44 |
jaosorior | yolanda: the question comes because of this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396008/ | 08:47 |
yolanda | jaosorior, what i normally see is that jobs capture the branch in jenkins, not in zuul itself | 08:49 |
yolanda | with ZUUL_REFNAME you can have the brnach | 08:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Track release-based scenario files in TripleO https://review.openstack.org/396026 | 08:55 |
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strigazi | Goog Morning AJaeger_, about magnum-specs, I don't know how to do this: "add magnum-core as group to magnum-specs-core" | 09:12 |
strigazi | AJaeger_, what is the best option? Add the acl file in gerrit/projects? | 09:14 |
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tsufiev | clarkb, they had fixed the original issue in firefox 47, but then the new firefox 48 was released which removed old webdriver support for good | 09:21 |
tsufiev | clarkb, see the comment https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/2110#issuecomment-224413609 | 09:21 |
tsufiev | clarkb, this issue https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/2559 is particularly related to firefox 48 | 09:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Arie Bregman proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add compute usage support https://review.openstack.org/393873 | 09:30 |
strigazi | Good morning yolanda | 09:31 |
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strigazi | yolanda, I need some help with with | 09:32 |
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strigazi | yoalanda, [magnum-specs] Add magnum-core group https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395689/ | 09:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Arie Bregman proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add support for limits https://review.openstack.org/395235 | 09:33 |
openstackgerrit | Arie Bregman proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add support for limits https://review.openstack.org/395235 | 09:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [magnum-specs] Use magnum-core group https://review.openstack.org/395689 | 09:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Sreeram Vancheeswaran proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Request to add new project nova-dpm https://review.openstack.org/395560 | 09:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Introduce scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396056 | 09:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce TripleO scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396062 | 10:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Introduce scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396056 | 10:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce TripleO scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396062 | 10:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds deploy guide gate jobs https://review.openstack.org/391499 | 10:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Anshul Jain proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: DIB element to support cinder local attach/detach functionality https://review.openstack.org/385880 | 10:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Waldemar Znoinski proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add non-voting functional tests job for networking-odl https://review.openstack.org/394476 | 10:54 |
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Olena | Hi folks! We need a stable/newton branch to be created for openstack-manuals, please. | 11:22 |
Olena | The date announced in the mailing list is November, 11 (tomorrow). | 11:23 |
Olena | Would you be able to do that, please? | 11:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexander Chadin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move gate-rally-dsvm-watcher-watcher to regular check https://review.openstack.org/396124 | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/395999 | 11:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds deploy guide gate jobs https://review.openstack.org/391499 | 11:48 |
openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nimble-specs project https://review.openstack.org/394294 | 11:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update git-upstream jobs to include coverage and docs https://review.openstack.org/394925 | 12:32 |
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kashyap | Hi, for Nova Gate CI definitions, is project-config the right repo? | 12:38 |
strigazi | Hi, is it possible to see the cloud-init-output.log from a vm that is created in a dsvm job? | 12:38 |
strigazi | kashyap, i think yes | 12:38 |
kashyap | strigazi: Looking for a confirmation :-) | 12:39 |
kashyap | strigazi: Okay, that's indeed it. Thanks | 12:40 |
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strigazi | kashyap, here I guess project-config/jenkins/jobs/nova.yaml | 12:40 |
strigazi | kashyap, cool | 12:40 |
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sean-k-mooney | hi, quick question, does anyone know if there is a guide to mirring the openstack git repos locally and exporting over http? | 12:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Support GitHub PR webhooks https://review.openstack.org/163117 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Make the string representation of change transparent https://review.openstack.org/238948 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Merge pull requests from github reporter https://review.openstack.org/243250 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Encapsulate determining the event purpose https://review.openstack.org/247487 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Fix job hierarchy bug. https://review.openstack.org/192457 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: support github pull reqeust labels https://review.openstack.org/247421 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Better merge message for GitHub pull reqeusts https://review.openstack.org/280667 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add 'push' and 'tag' github webhook events. https://review.openstack.org/191207 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add 'pr-comment' github webhook event https://review.openstack.org/239203 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Support for dependent pipelines with github https://review.openstack.org/247500 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Configurable SSH access to GitHub https://review.openstack.org/239138 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: GitHub file matching support https://review.openstack.org/292376 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Allow github trigger to match on branches/refs https://review.openstack.org/258448 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Log GitHub API rate limit https://review.openstack.org/292377 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Set filter according to PR/Change in URL https://review.openstack.org/325300 | 13:01 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Allow using webapp from connections https://review.openstack.org/215642 | 13:02 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Allow list values in template parameters. https://review.openstack.org/191208 | 13:02 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add basic Github Zuul Reporter. https://review.openstack.org/191312 | 13:02 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Support for github commit status https://review.openstack.org/239303 | 13:02 |
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anilvenkata | clarkb, Hi Clark | 13:24 |
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anilvenkata | clarkb, ping | 13:37 |
persia | Unless he is outside his normal timezone, it's very early there. You may find it most convenient to wait for a couple hours. | 13:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add release job for monasca-grafana-datasource https://review.openstack.org/396203 | 13:49 |
asselin__ | anilvenkata, you may also just want to ask away. He usually answers when he's online and other might have your answer as well. | 13:49 |
anilvenkata | asselin__, sure, thanks | 13:49 |
anilvenkata | asselin__, need help with http://logs.openstack.org/42/383742/6/check/gate-project-config-nodepool/f42438c/console.html | 13:50 |
anilvenkata | asselin__, I need suggestion to fix that error | 13:50 |
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anilvenkata | asselin__, any idea how to fix it? | 13:51 |
asselin__ | btw, if you click on the timestamp, you get a link right to the error trace: http://logs.openstack.org/42/383742/6/check/gate-project-config-nodepool/f42438c/console.html#_2016-11-10_07_28_12_714956 | 13:51 |
anilvenkata | asselin__, thanks | 13:51 |
anilvenkata | asselin__, http://logs.openstack.org/42/383742/6/check/gate-project-config-nodepool/f42438c/console.html#_2016-11-10_07_28_14_454109 | 13:51 |
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asselin__ | anilvenkata, also you should be able to reproduce locally. This is using tox: http://logs.openstack.org/42/383742/6/check/gate-project-config-nodepool/f42438c/console.html#_2016-11-10_07_27_03_953237 | 13:52 |
anilvenkata | asselin__, ok | 13:54 |
asselin__ | the error message is complaining about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383742/6/nodepool/nodepool.yaml line 141 | 13:54 |
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anilvenkata | asselin__, I don't know about those providers? Should I remove that provider? | 13:57 |
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asselin__ | I don't know why...but yes, try to reproduce localy first by e.g. removing the provider. | 13:57 |
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anilvenkata | asselin__, sure, thanks asselin__ | 13:58 |
openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add release job for monasca-grafana-datasource https://review.openstack.org/396203 | 14:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce TripleO scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396062 | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fixed rally job definition https://review.openstack.org/396222 | 14:18 |
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ihrachys | AJaeger_: yolanda: ^ I broke rally jobs with a recent patch | 14:18 |
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ihrachys | that syntax seems to work better | 14:18 |
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AJaeger_ | ihrachys: what about using "[[ ! "stable/liberty stable/mitaka" =~ $ZUUL_BRANCH ]]" instead | 14:20 |
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ihrachys | AJaeger_: if you think it will work :) | 14:20 |
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ihrachys | lemme play with it | 14:20 |
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ihrachys | AJaeger_: it will work; lemme change | 14:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fixed rally job definition https://review.openstack.org/396222 | 14:22 |
ihrachys | AJaeger_: ^ | 14:22 |
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Jeffrey4l | can any one check the murano-dashboard configuration in project-config? it has `publish-to-pypi` template but the master package was not updated since 2015. | 14:23 |
ihrachys | ah now commit message is wrong | 14:23 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fixed rally job definition https://review.openstack.org/396222 | 14:23 |
Jeffrey4l | config: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L11453 tarball link: http://tarballs.openstack.org/murano-dashboard/ | 14:23 |
Jeffrey4l | no idea why ;( | 14:23 |
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Jeffrey4l | murano-dashboard-master.tar.gz2015-04-18 08:42195K | 14:24 |
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openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental Neutron DVR+HA multinode job https://review.openstack.org/383742 | 14:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add note about scenario004 in README https://review.openstack.org/396238 | 14:32 |
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Jeffrey4l | AJaeger_, around? | 14:39 |
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Jeffrey4l | can u check the murano-dashboard configuration in project-config? it has `publish-to-pypi` template but the master package was not updated since 2015. | 14:39 |
Jeffrey4l | config: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L11453 tarball link: http://tarballs.openstack.org/murano-dashboard/ | 14:39 |
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fungi | Jeffrey4l: i'm having trouble checking pypi since i can't seem to get any response from it at the moment, but http://logs.openstack.org/0e/0e54b2b1e578a1545de1b8c73a102477250b4647/release/murano-dashboard-pypi-both-upload/d5df4c1/console.html.gz#_2016-10-06_13_18_44_844922 indicates your 3.0.0 release wheel and sdist tarball were published to it successfully last week | 14:45 |
pabelanger | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/murano-dashboard does show 3.0.0 | 14:46 |
fungi | agreed, it finally loaded for me as well | 14:46 |
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fungi | Jeffrey4l: oh! you're saying your master branch tarball is a year old? that has nothing to do with publishing to pypi but i'll see if i can spot the issue | 14:47 |
Jeffrey4l | fungi, yes. | 14:47 |
Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 14:47 |
Jeffrey4l | btw, how can get the pre-release logs? like http://logs.openstack.org/0e/0e54b2b1e578a1545de1b8c73a102477250b4647/release/murano-dashboard-pypi-both-upload/d5df4c1/console.html.gz#_2016-10-06_13_18_44_844922 | 14:48 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Remove OldNodePoolBuilder class https://review.openstack.org/392884 | 14:48 |
fungi | Jeffrey4l: yeah, looks like it's not running a branch-tarball job in the post pipeline on recent commits: http://logs.openstack.org/06/06012a46659e05d2c5fd7ca707b3ba377d2d4691/post/ | 14:48 |
fungi | Jeffrey4l: what do you mean pre-release? | 14:49 |
Jeffrey4l | like how can i get such url? http://logs.openstack.org/06/06012a46659e05d2c5fd7ca707b3ba377d2d4691/post/ | 14:49 |
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fungi | Jeffrey4l: oh, that url is just formed from the git sha of the object (often a generated merge commit) | 14:51 |
Jeffrey4l | got. thanks. | 14:51 |
fungi | if you want it for a tag, you need the git sha of the tag object itself, which you can obtain with `git show-ref ...` | 14:51 |
fungi | `git show-ref 3.0.0` for example | 14:51 |
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fungi | Jeffrey4l: it looks like you're not using the "python-jobs" template in layout.yaml, which is how most projects are getting their branch tarball jobs. under the post pipeline for the project here http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n11476 add a line for the murano-dashboard-branch-tarball job | 14:54 |
fungi | then it should run after each new commit merges and update that tarball | 14:54 |
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Jeffrey4l | Got. thanks. | 14:56 |
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ihrachys | AJaeger_: sorry for bugging, but that issue breaks all neutron gates | 14:57 |
ihrachys | AJaeger_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396222/ I respinned | 14:57 |
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ihrachys | anteaya: yolanda: ianw ^ | 15:01 |
ihrachys | the link to the patch | 15:01 |
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wznoinsk | hi infra, | 15:10 |
ihrachys | yamamoto: midonet/newton periodic job fails with http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-networking-midonet-python27-newton/4e0783b/console.html#_2016-11-10_06_13_57_082856 | 15:11 |
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ihrachys | ouch sorry wrong channel | 15:11 |
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wznoinsk | can't remember what were the plans for gerrit and the table showing CI results being generated but I thought I'd highlight this one anyways: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388514/ , 'have gate-networking-odl-requirements' is in the comment but missing from the table (due to non standard status I suppose) | 15:11 |
openstackgerrit | Brad P. Crochet proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce TripleO scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396062 | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run monasca-log-api tempest job on trusty https://review.openstack.org/396278 | 15:15 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make search_projects a special case of list_projects https://review.openstack.org/395868 | 15:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Brad P. Crochet proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce TripleO scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/396062 | 15:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Brad P. Crochet proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add Zaqar to scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/365026 | 15:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Brad P. Crochet proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add Mistral to scenario004 https://review.openstack.org/368805 | 15:28 |
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fungi | wznoinsk: yeah, there have been a couple attempts to extend the expression matching in hideci.js to include the failure string for that job, but so far those caused the table not to render at all and got reverted. i don't know if there's another attempt out there to review yet | 15:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins-jobs: enable nova novnc proxy with TLS https://review.openstack.org/396289 | 15:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add branch-tarball post job in murano dashboard https://review.openstack.org/396291 | 15:32 |
openstackgerrit | Attila Darazs proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Let the linter job vote on tripleo-quickstart https://review.openstack.org/396293 | 15:32 |
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wznoinsk | fungi, maybe status of 'see comment' if the result is not known for hideci? | 15:33 |
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wznoinsk | fungi, on a different note... gate question, I have a feeling that concurrency (too much of it) is the reason for failures http://logs.openstack.org/20/394820/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-odl-multinode-carbon-snapshot-nv/544656a/console.html , is there a way to try out my theory without merging into project-config ? | 15:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add branch-tarball post job in murano dashboard https://review.openstack.org/396291 | 15:36 |
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fungi | wznoinsk: you could add a straw-man change (to tempest presumably) altering the test concurrency and then make 394820 depends-on it | 15:37 |
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clarkb | I think devstack gate sets the concurrency when running tempest | 15:38 |
clarkb | based on $NCPU | 15:38 |
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ihrachys | anyone with +2 in project-config, please help landing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396222/ otherwise all neutron gates are broken | 15:51 |
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ihrachys | and not only neutron, but anyone using voting rally in their gate | 15:51 |
ihrachys | including rally obviously :) | 15:51 |
openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-odl: skip jobs when doc only change https://review.openstack.org/396301 | 15:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run monasca-log-api tempest job on trusty https://review.openstack.org/396278 | 15:55 |
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clarkb | ihrachys: help [[ says use && | 16:00 |
ihrachys | clarkb: I was reading 'man test' | 16:00 |
clarkb | ihrachys: [[ is not test, [ is test | 16:01 |
ihrachys | oh right. ok :) | 16:01 |
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clarkb | [[ is the more magical bash thing | 16:01 |
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jeblair | mordred: can you +3 https://review.openstack.org/394658 ? then i'll restart launchers | 16:01 |
ihrachys | clarkb: so you want me to fix the commit message or it's ok? | 16:02 |
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clarkb | ihrachys: its fine, I just left a comment on the change explaining it | 16:02 |
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ihrachys | ok nevermind, I see your +A | 16:02 |
ihrachys | thanks! | 16:02 |
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jlvillal | And -a / -o seem to be different between [[ and [ | 16:08 |
jlvillal | Which I find somewhat confusing | 16:08 |
fungi | i blame the bash authors | 16:09 |
fungi | posix 4evar | 16:09 |
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jlvillal | Sounds reasonable :) | 16:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fixed rally job definition https://review.openstack.org/396222 | 16:12 |
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jeblair | pabelanger, fungi: mordred doesn't seem to be around; could i convince one of you to look at https://review.openstack.org/394658 ? | 16:13 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Normalize projects https://review.openstack.org/396309 | 16:13 |
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jeblair | oh there he is :) | 16:14 |
mordred | jeblair: hey - sorry sup? | 16:14 |
* mordred reads | 16:14 | |
jeblair | mordred: review and +3 https://review.openstack.org/394658 for afs-docs pls? | 16:14 |
mordred | I review now | 16:14 |
jeblair | yay | 16:14 |
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clarkb | oh good I already reviewed that one | 16:15 |
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mordred | jeblair: looks great.... Shrews do you remember what type='raw' is about (I do not feel compelled to do anything about it here, but I do not know the answer and am not sure if we sohuld make a follow up patch now that we're on 2.2) | 16:16 |
mordred | Shrews: https://review.openstack.org/394658 is the patch in question | 16:17 |
Shrews | yeah | 16:17 |
Shrews | i answered that much earlier... somewhere... somewhen... | 16:17 |
sree | hi guys, could you please review and approved this --> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395560/5 | 16:17 |
Shrews | mordred: jeblair: type='raw' preserves the original type of the data passed in. | 16:18 |
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clarkb | sree: no existing code base that you will need to import into gerrit? | 16:18 |
Shrews | mordred: jeblair: ansible 2.1 (iirc) strictly enforced the implied str default | 16:18 |
Shrews | which broke things | 16:18 |
mordred | Shrews: ah - gotcha. so if the incoming values _are_ strings, it can be omitted | 16:19 |
sree | @clarkb we have some code in our internal repo.. Once the proejct is created, we will do one base import with the existing code (some refactoring going on) | 16:19 |
mordred | yeah? | 16:19 |
Shrews | mordred: if you never pass in another type, yeah, you don't need raw | 16:19 |
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clarkb | sree: ok, you can either do it in one go as part of the new project creation (eg you need to be ready for that before this change merges), or you can push into gerrit as you go afterwards | 16:20 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul: Ansible launcher: move AFS publisher into a module https://review.openstack.org/394658 | 16:20 |
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clarkb | sree: I mention this because we would liek to avoid you showing up in a few months with hundreds of commits that you need us to manually force push for you :) | 16:20 |
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fungi | but also please don't try to manually push a series of 200 changes to gerrit all at once | 16:21 |
clarkb | mordred: shade release happened right? maybe you should plan a nodepool restart today? (remember to stop the deleter last and start it first) | 16:21 |
fungi | it will make our ci system very sad | 16:21 |
sree | clarkb: ah, I see.. I was thinking once the project is setup, we (the core team) can +2 and merge those commits into the project.. Is it not possible? | 16:21 |
mordred | sree: you can - it will just have to be done one commit at a time | 16:21 |
Shrews | mordred: i left a comment on that review, but appears to be post-merge | 16:21 |
clarkb | mordred: sree And since you have added a bunch of gate jobs your first commit will need to successfully pass those tests | 16:22 |
mordred | yup | 16:22 |
mordred | which is fine- and totally a way you can choose to go | 16:22 |
mordred | it's just worth noting that every commit in your existing repo will need to be +2'd and will need to pass all the gate jobs | 16:22 |
mordred | Shrews: thanks | 16:23 |
sree | mordred: what if I clone the entire contents, and then push all commits in one go? | 16:23 |
sree | mordred: clarkb: I will ensure using tox that the gate jobs works fine and then do the push? Is that possible at all? | 16:24 |
fungi | the point is that our import process can do that for you | 16:24 |
clarkb | ianw: catching up on state of nodepool images and looks like you got things pretty well cleaned up. I will try to keep an eye on thigs as the day progresses (and new things are queued to gearman) | 16:24 |
fungi | sree: well, our import process doesn't run jobs against the commits being imported, but it will faithfully duplicate the original repo down to the same commit shas and branches/tags | 16:24 |
sree | ok got it. But there are some commit messages etc in the internal repo, which are not as per the commit standards of OpenStack.. so was thinking if it makes sense to push all existing code as base in one go. | 16:25 |
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fungi | sree: but i think what mordred was trying to say is that each individual change you push to gerrit would have to successfully pass all configured jobs if you do that yourself, not just the last change in the series | 16:25 |
mordred | sree: yah - if you want to just squash it into a single commit and push that up, I think that's totally fine | 16:25 |
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mordred | sree: I think that's what you're suggesting, right? | 16:26 |
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sree | mordred: yes | 16:26 |
mordred | cool. then yes, that should work just fine | 16:26 |
fungi | oh, just a single squashed commit, not multiple separate commits? i agree, that's fairly tractable | 16:26 |
sree | mordred: fungi: clarkb: if that is a workable option, I'd like to pursue that | 16:26 |
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sree | yep, singie squashed commit | 16:26 |
mordred | ++ | 16:26 |
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sree | Thank you | 16:27 |
fungi | we've seen people in the past push up a series of 200+ dependent changes to populate the initial state of the repo because they forgot to import it and wanted distinct commits. that gets really ugly | 16:27 |
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fungi | just remember that squashing multiple commits effectively loses the history of those, and so you can't bisect between them conveniently in the future | 16:28 |
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sree | yes, I agree.. but is there any other way to deal with the situation where the existing commit messages etc, are not up to the standars of the OpenStack project? | 16:29 |
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fungi | sure, you can ignore it and improve your standards for all new commits | 16:29 |
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clarkb | I have approved teh change should I unapprove so this discussion can continue? | 16:29 |
clarkb | I unapproved | 16:29 |
fungi | which i think is what most imported projects do | 16:29 |
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fungi | most commit standards are around making new proposed changes easy to review, but for changes you've already merged that's less of a concern | 16:31 |
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sree | true, I will then discuss with my team (I'm in India timezone and it can happen in my morning time tomorrow); and then update in IRC and the gerrit | 16:32 |
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sree | until then, lets keep the status as is.. thank you for the valuable insights. | 16:32 |
fungi | you're welcome! | 16:32 |
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fungi | huh... https://github.com/spotify/ramlfications | 16:34 |
fungi | that's new | 16:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Improve logger output for expanding templates https://review.openstack.org/336091 | 16:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add view management functionality https://review.openstack.org/206178 | 16:35 |
mordred | fungi: parser for _what_? | 16:35 |
fungi | "restful api modeling language" | 16:35 |
fungi | (raml) | 16:35 |
mordred | oh. it's a swagger competitor | 16:36 |
fungi | right | 16:36 |
fungi | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ramlfications/ | 16:36 |
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fungi | i guess it's been around for ~1.5 years, but i'd never heard of it until now | 16:37 |
mordred | I will admit, I like RAML better than swagger already given that swagger is json and raml is yaml | 16:37 |
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fungi | yep, that's what drew me in | 16:38 |
wznoinsk | fungi, thanks makes sense, I got mixed the changes tho and the question I wanted to ask is this: if I have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395107/ (networking-odl gate and post_test_hook) that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394476/ (project-config) depends on, is there any way to test that or any other project-config to change zuul/jbb before the change is being merged? | 16:38 |
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jeblair | mordred: but is swagger a proper subset of raml? ;) | 16:39 |
mordred | jeblair: :) | 16:40 |
clarkb | wznoinsk: within zuul no, jobs aren't updated until merged into the jjb config. You can however copy paste the shell straight out of that job and onto a machine and run it there | 16:40 |
fungi | wznoinsk: not project-config changes, no | 16:40 |
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clarkb | I guess you also need to run the devstack-checkout macro shell too | 16:40 |
wznoinsk | clarkb, fungi thanks, I'm fine actually, I have a pipeline in our 3rd party CI for myself and manually kick things in there so no issue here - was just wondering | 16:41 |
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AJaeger_ | jeblair: thanks for the AFS docs change. do you want me to test publish something - and when? | 16:42 |
clarkb | pabelanger: it looks like ~10 minutes of every dib build we do now is generating the two hashes for our 3 image outputs. Do we need both hashes or can we reduce to one and cut that time back? (its good we only incur the cost once at build time now instead of before every upload though) | 16:43 |
fungi | wznoinsk: basically, we need people to review job config changes because right now it would be trivial to expose credentials for privileged jobs if zuul just automatically ran proposed job configurations. the design in zuul v3 specifically addresses those risks so as to make it possible (at least for some kinds of jobs) | 16:43 |
jeblair | AJaeger_: i'm looking into restarting it now... | 16:44 |
pabelanger | clarkb: mordred might know if we need both hashes. I know shade expects both today | 16:45 |
clarkb | mordred: ^ any idea why we need both instead of one? | 16:45 |
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fungi | clarkb: pabelanger: if one checksum is sufficient, i agree it would be helpful to not have to incur the i/o overhead of reading a gigantic file more times than necessary | 16:46 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Non-voting job running ironic-inspector functional tests on Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/391824 | 16:46 |
pabelanger | clarkb: fungi: Sure, just need to confirm shade will allow it | 16:46 |
fungi | if we need both, maybe we can do tricks with a tee of pipelines to generate both hashes from a single read | 16:46 |
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AJaeger_ | jeblair: ok. I don't have much time today - just ping me once it's ok to +A something and I'll read backscroll later and do it. | 16:47 |
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mordred | fungi: shade reads the file once and generates both checksums simultaneouslyu | 16:50 |
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mordred | so we will not be reducing the time spent generating checksums if we remove one of the checksums | 16:51 |
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clarkb | mordred: thats not how dib works though | 16:51 |
clarkb | so maybe we made this worse by putting it in dib? | 16:51 |
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mordred | oh - gotit. SO - we don't _need_ both hases - although shade does in the API | 16:52 |
clarkb | ya looks like shade will generate the other if you don't provide both | 16:53 |
mordred | we could have dib create just one and then have nodepool pass it in to shade's create_image and just pass garbage into the other param | 16:53 |
clarkb | mordred: what is the value in using two hashes there? why not just sha256 and make it simple? | 16:53 |
AJaeger_ | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396278 moves a monasca change back from xenial to trusty ;( | 16:53 |
AJaeger_ | clarkb: has there been any discussion? | 16:54 |
clarkb | AJaeger_: I haven't heard anything from them | 16:54 |
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mordred | clarkb: I do not believe there is a ton of value - I do not remember why we decided to do two (I think it was "we can get both with a single pass, so why not" | 16:54 |
clarkb | AJaeger_: we are going to switch everything on december 6th... | 16:55 |
mordred | clarkb: I'd want to think for a bit about the potential effects of changing shade's behavior there | 16:55 |
mordred | clarkb: my hunch is that no humans who are not us even notice that codepath | 16:55 |
AJaeger_ | clarkb: so, -2 the change? I just commented but didn't vote... | 16:55 |
clarkb | AJaeger_: it isn't even a voting job... | 16:56 |
clarkb | AJaeger_: I am tempted to -2 (this job isn't voting and we will be switching everything on december 6th. Please fix the test instead) | 16:56 |
mordred | clarkb: ++ | 16:56 |
Madasi | JayF: late response, but it seems pretty useful to me. | 16:56 |
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JayF | Madasi: ECHAN :) | 16:56 |
AJaeger_ | clarkb: works for me. | 16:56 |
fungi | clarkb: mordred: so why generate image checksums in dib at all if shade is going to do it anyway? | 16:56 |
Madasi | yes, yes it was >( | 16:57 |
mordred | fungi: shade will not do it if the checksums are passed in to the api | 16:57 |
clarkb | fungi: I think the idea was to do it once to speed things up, except we made thigns slower by serializing them | 16:57 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: POC: Use tripleo-repos in tripleo.sh https://review.openstack.org/395813 | 16:57 |
fungi | oh, got it | 16:57 |
fungi | shade would do it once per upload rather than once per image | 16:57 |
mordred | yes | 16:57 |
clarkb | sort of | 16:57 |
clarkb | shade caches them too | 16:57 |
clarkb | (which btw is kind of dangerous too because the file contents can change under the filename) | 16:58 |
clarkb | mordred: in fact I think ^ needs to be addressed in shade as well | 16:58 |
mordred | clarkb: shade does not cache them? | 16:58 |
clarkb | mordred: it does | 16:58 |
clarkb | but it should cache smarter, right now its only based on the filename | 16:58 |
clarkb | but filecontents can change without filename changing | 16:58 |
clarkb | and that could lead to very confused shade users | 16:58 |
fungi | so we should either see if shade can get by on just one supplied checksum without auto-generating the other, or get dib to do both in parallel from a single read and then supply them to shade so it doesn't need to do checksumming on its own? | 16:58 |
mordred | oh - I see it, yeah | 16:58 |
clarkb | fungi: I think doing both things is potentially nice since people use shade without dib and dib without shade | 16:59 |
mordred | fungi: let's go with making shade not auto-generate if it is passed either | 16:59 |
fungi | or does shade do checksum generation in the same read pass as the uploading itself? | 16:59 |
clarkb | mordred: and also fix the caching in shade | 16:59 |
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clarkb | fungi: it doesn't | 16:59 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Always use cached images in updates job https://review.openstack.org/386713 | 16:59 |
clarkb | mordred: filename_filemodtime as key maybe | 16:59 |
mordred | clarkb: nod | 17:00 |
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fungi | okay, yeah. point being, let's reduce the number of times we need to read a file, given the size of these files. dib should read it once to generate one or more checksums (in parallel), and then shade should read the file in the process of uploading it (but not in addition to) | 17:00 |
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* AJaeger_ will be back later | 17:01 | |
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fungi | or dib should forego generating checksums as long as shade can cache them safely after one read | 17:02 |
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jeblair | infra-root: i'm going to hard-restart the zuul launchers now | 17:04 |
clarkb | I think having dib make them is nice for people not using shade with dib (of which there are many) | 17:04 |
clarkb | so fixing both places makes the most sense to me | 17:04 |
mordred | fungi: shade cannot read the file in the process of uploading it | 17:05 |
mordred | fungi: it's physically impossible given the way the underlying APIs work | 17:05 |
mordred | sadly | 17:05 |
jeblair | mordred: checksums required first? | 17:05 |
mordred | jeblair: well, it needs to get the checksums so it can check the api to see if it needs to upload the image | 17:06 |
mordred | (that's why they are there) | 17:06 |
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mordred | but also, yes - in some of the cases, even if we do need to upload the image, we need to provide the metadata before we then upload the image to the object that was created | 17:06 |
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fungi | mordred: right, just saying since shade can read the file once to generate two checksums and cache those, we could stop having dib generate them once we trust shade's caching | 17:07 |
mordred | fungi: yes. this I'm almost done writing | 17:07 |
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fungi | so it would be shade reading the file once to generate both checksums, and then once more per provider to upload | 17:07 |
mordred | yes | 17:07 |
mordred | well, that's what it does now | 17:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Always use cached images in updates job https://review.openstack.org/386713 | 17:07 |
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clarkb | 2016-11-10 17:07:56,317 INFO nodepool.image.build.ubuntu-xenial: gyp WARN EACCES user "root" does not have permission to access the dev dir "/root/.node-gyp/4.2.6" | 17:08 |
mordred | we optimize in nodepool by reading the dib-generated checksum and passing it in to create_image | 17:08 |
clarkb | node is so weird... | 17:08 |
fungi | yep, but apparently now we have dib reading it twice to generate checksums instead of (or in addition to) shade doing so | 17:09 |
clarkb | fungi: instead of | 17:09 |
clarkb | so its one extra file read | 17:09 |
jeblair | #status log restarted all zuul-launchers to pick up https://review.openstack.org/394658 | 17:09 |
openstackstatus | jeblair: finished logging | 17:09 |
fungi | cool, that's what it sounded like | 17:09 |
clarkb | * image formats * size of image formats = ~50GB per image | 17:09 |
jeblair | AJaeger_: ^ the afs change is in place now | 17:09 |
openstackgerrit | Waldemar Znoinski proposed openstack-infra/project-config: wip: fix multinode networking-odl job by reducing concurrency https://review.openstack.org/396319 | 17:09 |
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clarkb | wznoinsk: you probably want to make it some fraction of NPROC instead as vcpu count for testing isn't necessarily fixed | 17:11 |
clarkb | wznoinsk: tempest defaults to half but at least 2, you might want to do 1/4 or something | 17:11 |
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pabelanger | clarkb: know of any tool that will generate both checksums from a single read? | 17:12 |
fungi | pabelanger: shade, apparently! ;) | 17:13 |
clarkb | pabelanger: I think you would have to do a tee trick like fungi suggests, cat foo | tee >(md5sum >sumfile) >(sha256sum >sumfile) maybe? | 17:13 |
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fungi | yeah, that's what i was envisioning originally | 17:13 |
pabelanger | Oh, neat | 17:13 |
pabelanger | missed that | 17:13 |
clarkb | speaking of the cpu thing above https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394566/1/doc/source/testing.rst documents that cpu count is not fixed or reliable | 17:13 |
pabelanger | I can give it a test | 17:13 |
pabelanger | see how it works | 17:13 |
fungi | i've done similar tee tricks in the past to deal with expensive i/o | 17:13 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Only generate checksums if neither is given https://review.openstack.org/396320 | 17:14 |
clarkb | apparently ptee exists as a tool to make that less bash specific but we already bash so meh | 17:14 |
mordred | clarkb, fungi, jeblair: ^^ there's the single-checksum change | 17:14 |
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pabelanger | fungi: initial testing looks good | 17:16 |
clarkb | mordred: +2 with some feedback too | 17:17 |
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mordred | clarkb: oh - good call | 17:19 |
Shuo | clarkb: continuing yesterday's topic....so for the last 3 rows in Table 2 (http://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/gating.html#testing-in-parallel), I understand why "acme master + change 1" and "plugin master + change 3" should be put together -- the ymal file defined so. | 17:19 |
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Shuo | clarkb: but, I don't understand why/how dependency on "plugin stable + change 2" get triggered | 17:20 |
clarkb | Shuo: that is included because change 2 comes before change 3 | 17:20 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Cache file checksums by filename and mtime https://review.openstack.org/396322 | 17:20 |
mordred | clarkb: there's the other thing | 17:21 |
clarkb | Shuo: and by including that ref you can perform testing like upgrade testing across the branches safely in a speculative future state | 17:21 |
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clarkb | mordred: ty | 17:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Dorman proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Saltstack plugin builder https://review.openstack.org/391567 | 17:22 |
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clarkb | Shuo: basically it is trying to provide the entire state of the speculative future at that point in the potential future "timeline" | 17:24 |
clarkb | Shuo: if you leave information out then testing that depends on all branches being accurate could produce errant results | 17:24 |
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Shuo | clarkb: thanks. I guess what confused me is why commits to different branches (stable; master) are automatically defined as dependent to each other -- the yaml did not say so. | 17:26 |
clarkb | Shuo: they aren't defined as dependent on each other | 17:26 |
clarkb | Shuo: zuul doesn't know if they are or not, so zuul is providing that information to accomodate the situation where they are | 17:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fail up to date check on one out of sync value https://review.openstack.org/396328 | 17:28 |
mordred | clarkb: and that's the follow up to your comment on patch one | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fail up to date check on one out of sync value https://review.openstack.org/396328 | 17:29 |
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jeblair | mordred: sorry to geek out on a bikeshed here, but why did you use any() in that change? it looks like it takes about twice as long to run as simply saying "if not (md5 or sha256)". | 17:30 |
Shuo | clarkb: is there a point for zuul ops people to install/configure a demo environment (on aws or on vagrant machines)? | 17:30 |
mordred | jeblair: no specific reason - it's just what came to my head - I had no idea any was slower | 17:31 |
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jeblair | mordred: ok. i mean, it's not going to kill anything (0.23 microseconds vs 0.12). i just asked because it seemed unusual. | 17:32 |
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jeblair | mordred: i guess it's because it has to construct a list, then construct a set from that list, then essentially just perform the same underlying boolean check. | 17:33 |
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clarkb | Shuo: I am not sure I understand the questionbut we try to use openstack arpund here (and do) | 17:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fail up to date check on one out of sync value https://review.openstack.org/396328 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Only generate checksums if neither is given https://review.openstack.org/396320 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Cache file checksums by filename and mtime https://review.openstack.org/396322 | 17:34 |
mordred | jeblair: no need to not save the microseconds ^^ :) | 17:34 |
mordred | clarkb: (need another review pass from you if you please) | 17:35 |
jeblair | mordred: yay. of course, we'll have to run this a lot to make up for the time i cost all of us with this. :) | 17:35 |
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mordred | jeblair: if we're not overoptimizing, we're not having any fun! | 17:35 |
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mgagne | so someone I reloaded Zuul and it lost the state of a mutex, In fact, I think the mutex is still present and blocking jobs. Is there a way to free the mutex without hard restarting Zuul? | 17:36 |
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mgagne | somehow* | 17:37 |
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Shuo | clarkb: thanks (still in busy reading doc stage... :-) ) | 17:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update git-upstream jobs to include coverage and docs https://review.openstack.org/394925 | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Normalize projects https://review.openstack.org/396309 | 17:55 |
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clarkb | rcarrillocruz: pabelanger et al one of the things I picked up on my list of todos from the summit is to deploy a master horizon + translated strings against an openstack cloud. To see if managing just a horizon install for the translation check site is viable | 17:59 |
clarkb | rcarrillocruz: pabelanger: one thought was we could just point it at infracloud | 17:59 |
clarkb | are there any concerns or issues with that from your side if we create an account with basically no quota there? | 17:59 |
clarkb | and then let people poke at it via a horizon? | 17:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Redirect image build stderr to stdout https://review.openstack.org/382641 | 18:01 |
clarkb | basically it occured to me that we might not need to run an entire openstack just to interact with horizon and translated strings and the hroizon team seemed to think it was viable from horizon's perspective | 18:02 |
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mordred | clarkb: makes sense to me | 18:04 |
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clarkb | tsufiev: reading more on that selenium set of bugs it looks like you should be able to sign the driver yourself and load it? | 18:07 |
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clarkb | tsufiev: do you know if that has been attempted? | 18:07 |
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jeblair | mgagne: i don't think so | 18:10 |
mgagne | jeblair: ok, will try to reproduce the bug later and see if it was caused by a reload like I thought or a canceled build (new patchset) | 18:10 |
jeblair | mgagne: thanks | 18:10 |
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walharthi | Hello, I need some help submitting changes using git-review. I was able to commit the changes but when I try to push them using "git review", I get "fatal: ICLA contributor agreement requires current contact information. Please review your contact information: https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact". I already signed the agreement a while ago, and whenever I try to add my Mailing Address, I get "Code | 18:13 |
walharthi | Review - Error. Server Error. Cannot store contact information". Could someone help me with this? Thanks | 18:13 |
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clarkb | walharthi: typically that means there is some mismatch between your openstack foundation account and your gerrit account. http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup should walk you through what is required to get set up | 18:14 |
Shuo | Is there any discussion about somehow connect Zuul to github or gitlab (to serialize the approval of pull request as put a final gate before merge)? not every company uses gerrit for review (Just wonder -- I know zuul is an Openstack oriented project) | 18:14 |
clarkb | Shuo: yes github support is planned as part of the zuulv3 work, though it currently doesn't exist | 18:15 |
mordred | Shuo: yup | 18:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: POC: Use tripleo-repos in tripleo.sh https://review.openstack.org/395813 | 18:15 |
clarkb | (there are patches up but not sure what state they are in) | 18:15 |
mordred | well, there is a set of patches for zuul v2 that there are people using in produciton | 18:15 |
mordred | clarkb: I learned at linuxcon that those are in daily use | 18:15 |
Shuo | cool! | 18:15 |
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mordred | clarkb: and, in fact, the guy at linuxcon didn't realize they weren't landed - that's how much in production they are at their company | 18:16 |
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mordred | Shuo: but yah - from an upstream perspective, getting that support into v3 is definitely a goal | 18:16 |
clarkb | mriedem: you just commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392934/ if we approve that nowish any chacne you are able to help keep an eye on things? | 18:17 |
mriedem | clarkb: i'm around all day | 18:18 |
clarkb | mordred: ^ may interest you as its a big step in killing nova net | 18:18 |
Shuo | how would you assess applying usage of zuul to c++/java projects (non python)? If the answer is 'it's doable', what are the potential nuance/pitfall? | 18:18 |
mordred | clarkb: woot! | 18:18 |
mriedem | clarkb: once that's in i'm going to flip the default on use_neutron=True in nova | 18:18 |
mordred | Shuo: we use zuul with non-python projects all the time | 18:18 |
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clarkb | Shuo: zuul operates around git, as long as you deal with git repos it should work fine | 18:18 |
clarkb | Shuo: probably the biggest potential issue you may run into is dealing with waterfalled build artifacts for things that aren't interpreted. Still doable but zuul doesn't have built in make artifact then waterfall it down to other build functionality, you have to supply that on top of zuul | 18:19 |
mordred | yah. that keeps coming up as a thing to think about | 18:20 |
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clarkb | mordred: ya thinking about it more just having a distributed caching build farm next door seems like an easy way to deal with it | 18:20 |
clarkb | and seems like building one of those is fairly straightforward these days | 18:20 |
mordred | clarkb: I don't think that gets it all the way | 18:20 |
clarkb | mordred: I mean you still have to link often | 18:21 |
clarkb | but thats cheap | 18:21 |
mordred | clarkb: there are usecases from the container people where they want to make sure the actual image they tested with is the one that gets published | 18:21 |
mordred | same, I believe, with distro packaging | 18:21 |
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clarkb | mordred: with distro apcakges at least debian has made a lot of work to do that with mysetup | 18:21 |
clarkb | mordred: you have reproduceable buidls and double check fiel hases if you are paranoid | 18:21 |
clarkb | it might not be the same file but its the same fiel | 18:22 |
mordred | yah. but I think waterfalling-artifacts comes up enough it's going to want to be systemically solved | 18:22 |
Shuo | clarkb: (not a release/build engineer background... bear with me the naive question) jenkins has the pipeline mechanism. When you say "waterfalled build artifacts...", are you referring this kind of consideration https://www.cloudbees.com/blog/parallelism-and-distributed-builds-jenkins? | 18:22 |
mordred | Shuo: zuul has the same mechanism as the jenkins pipeline mechanism for chaining jobs | 18:23 |
mordred | Shuo: but what's missing is a general way for an artifact produced by one job to be accessible by a subsequent job | 18:23 |
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clarkb | Shuo: its specifically the "stash and unstash - distribute artifacts" portion of that | 18:23 |
mordred | at least not one natively built in to zuul | 18:23 |
mordred | yah | 18:23 |
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clarkb | mordred: but basically you build on distributed build system as base since thats easy | 18:25 |
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clarkb | then if you want the bits you describe you add in some bazel or something like that which can "register" specific endpoint artifacts | 18:25 |
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mordred | clarkb: I do not konw what you mean by "distributed build system as base since thats easy" | 18:26 |
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fungi | we do some of that by having a place for jobs to publish artifacts and writing the jobs chained from them to know where and how to find those artifacts so they can be retrieved and used | 18:27 |
clarkb | mordred: distcc for example | 18:27 |
clarkb | mordred: then when you run make at the beginning of every job the cost is near zero | 18:27 |
openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/os-testr: Track failures during sorting of test results https://review.openstack.org/396350 | 18:27 |
clarkb | mordred: and if you need to test a final result that is the exact same file you publish "register" those artifacts and have specific jobs that interact with them to do that vetting | 18:28 |
fungi | for example, we have a job that builds a tarball, then we have jobs triggered from that which create/publish a signature of that tarball and separate jobs which upload the tarball to pypi (a global package repository) | 18:28 |
mordred | clarkb: I'm totally in favor of some distcc - but I think the two things are orthogonal | 18:28 |
clarkb | mordred: they aren't totally the biggest concern people seem to have with the artifact problem is performance | 18:28 |
clarkb | mordred: if I don't run the next job on this same instance then all my jobs will be slow | 18:28 |
mordred | fungi: yah - the dance we do by hand is the dance that it feels like zuul should grok | 18:29 |
clarkb | the second concern is testing what you publish | 18:29 |
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mordred | yah. the second concerns comes up a lot when I talk to container people | 18:29 |
jlvillal | So when I create my on nodepool image using project-config/tools/build-image.sh How do I specify my SSH key? It required my SSH key to build, but not sure what account it stuck it in. I checked root and jenkins and don't see it. | 18:29 |
jlvillal | s/my on/my own/ | 18:29 |
mordred | building the container each time rather than using the same container in a bunch of contexts is a concern that keeps getting expressed | 18:29 |
mordred | so I tihnk we need thoughts about _both_ concerns | 18:29 |
clarkb | jlvillal: you can either add the devuser element to the elements list or provide a config drive with your key on boot (and use the root user) | 18:29 |
jeblair | mordred: +2 on 320 | 18:30 |
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mordred | jeblair: yay! | 18:30 |
jlvillal | clarkb: Thanks. I will google what you said :) | 18:30 |
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clarkb | mordred: right I guess I am trying to say they are the same concern. Because if you have caching distributed builds you can also cache your end results well | 18:30 |
clarkb | jlvillal: if you are booting the image with nova its easy you do --config-drive=True on cli client command | 18:31 |
clarkb | jlvillal: if not, then its "fun" I would recommend maybe using devuser if no config drive (and probably we should build that in as supported in the build script) | 18:31 |
jlvillal | clarkb: Thanks! | 18:31 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fail up to date check on one out of sync value https://review.openstack.org/396328 | 18:33 |
Shuo | mordred: are you in euro time zones? (just check the time overlap if needed further questions) | 18:33 |
mordred | Shuo: nope - US - you? | 18:33 |
Shuo | mordred: Pacific, US | 18:34 |
Shuo | clarkb: you? | 18:34 |
mordred | clarkb: I hear that conceptually - but something like distcc isn't going to help with publishing and fetching a docker image or deb/rpm or a jar file unless I'm missing something? | 18:35 |
clarkb | Shuo: I am on the us west coast | 18:35 |
clarkb | mordred: correct what you really need is likely a bazel | 18:36 |
clarkb | mordred: but my point is don't make that part of zuul, these tools exist and zuul maybe (and maybe not) just needs to talk to them | 18:36 |
mordred | clarkb: well, I mean, bazel seems to be a competing idea to zuul, so I don't think zuul using bazel is a good idea | 18:37 |
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clarkb | I think they are somewhat complementary since bazel has completely punted on the bits zuul does | 18:37 |
mordred | it's also a replacement for make/setuptools/Dockerfile/maven | 18:37 |
clarkb | and so far zuul has punted on the bits bazel does | 18:37 |
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mordred | "To know which targets can be built in your project, Bazel inspects BUILD files. They are written in Bazel's build language which is syntactically similar to Python" | 18:37 |
clarkb | mordred: right its a fancy distcc that groks more than C | 18:37 |
Shuo | mordred: bazel, as the google open source c++ build tool? | 18:38 |
mordred | yah. I would be _extremely_ uncomfortable suggesting that to use zuul you need to adopt a specific in-tree build tool | 18:38 |
fungi | Shuo: rcarrillocruz, yolanda and SergeyLukjanov are our current infra-root sysadmins/infra-core reviewers in emea timezones. though also we have jhesketh and ianw in apac timezones who tend to also be awake during european mornings. most of them have at least a basic understanding of zuul and can probably also answer questions you have | 18:38 |
clarkb | mordred: me too! which is why I am saying this. People should be instructed to use $cachingbuildtool and not solve it in zuul itself | 18:38 |
mordred | clarkb: but that still doesn't solve the second concern | 18:39 |
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mordred | clarkb: which si the one I've been saying since we started talking about this that I think we _should_ solve in zuul | 18:39 |
clarkb | mordred: I think it does solve the second concern | 18:39 |
mordred | I think it does not | 18:39 |
clarkb | $cachingbuildtool produces artifact | 18:39 |
clarkb | then zuul jobs can retrieve said artifacts | 18:39 |
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mordred | that puts the burden for solving artifact waterfall on the user | 18:39 |
mordred | it's a _very_ common thing to want to do | 18:40 |
clarkb | mordred: yes which is important because as you just said we shouldn't be forcing anyone to use a specific one | 18:40 |
mordred | we do it by using tarballs.o.o | 18:40 |
mordred | right | 18:40 |
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mordred | I'm not suggesting we use a bazel | 18:40 |
clarkb | neither am I is just an example of said $tool | 18:40 |
mordred | I'm suggesting zuul grow the ability for one job to say "register: foo.tar.gz" and another job to say "fetch: foo.tar.gz" | 18:40 |
fungi | Shuo: oh, i misread. you're not on emea time anyway | 18:40 |
mordred | I do not think we need a caching build to | 18:40 |
mordred | tool | 18:40 |
mordred | at all | 18:40 |
clarkb | mordred: my concern with that is now you have built a caching build tool | 18:41 |
mordred | nor do I think that a user choosing to use one would have any bearing on this | 18:41 |
clarkb | and many of them exist | 18:41 |
mordred | no | 18:41 |
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mordred | I've built an artifact transport tool | 18:41 |
mordred | how foo.tar.gz gets built is immaterial | 18:41 |
fungi | Shuo: we have lots of people in the americas with good zuul familiarity, so you shouldn't have trouble finding people to answer more questions | 18:41 |
clarkb | mordred: ok | 18:41 |
jlvillal | clarkb: No joy with --config-drive=True. Tried with root and jenkins. | 18:41 |
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jlvillal | clarkb: I'll try your next suggestion after lunch I think. | 18:42 |
clarkb | I guess my concern is the next step in that is replacing all the bits for caching of such things is reinventing a lot of wheels that exist | 18:42 |
clarkb | regardless of what fires `make` | 18:42 |
mordred | right. and I totally agree that we should not reinvent that | 18:42 |
mordred | I'm very much purely talking only about being able to access a file produced by one job in a subsequent job in a way that's similar to our tarballs.o.o dance but doesn't require cargo-culting on the part of every user | 18:42 |
clarkb | ya I think thats fine | 18:43 |
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clarkb | I just don't awnt to see us reimplementing large chunks of swift or bazel or squid in order to make it performant | 18:44 |
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jeblair | clarkb, mordred: i want this to be easy, but i also want to avoid building more into zuul than we have to. so first, i'd like to see what we can do using ansible roles for implementing the transfer using common patterns (like tarballs, or swift, or others). if zuul needs syntactic sugar to help with that, we can add it later. if we really need to add logic to zuul itself, i think it can be on the table after more simple/modular ... | 18:44 |
jeblair | ... things have failed. | 18:44 |
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mordred | jeblair: yes | 18:44 |
mordred | clarkb: and yes | 18:44 |
sc68cal | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386072/ is ready to go I think. gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full-ubuntu-xenial failed two times but wasn't the same tempest test that failed | 18:45 |
mordred | I should probably say my original thing differently - I think we need an easy(ish) answer to this use case - that may or may not be code or logic in zuul | 18:45 |
mordred | just as long as the answer isn't "file transfer is easy that's left as an exercise to the user" :) | 18:45 |
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clarkb | sc68cal: cool I shall rereview that stack today | 18:46 |
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Shuo | mordred: clarkb: I did not 100% understand what you guys' difference lie on, but let me jump in this bazel topci a bit. It's a c++ build tool ( a maven equivalent for C++), as I understand. It enables parallel/distributed build. I feel it should fall into the scope of zuul, as zuul is gating serialization tool which great speculative execution scheduling power (to me, still a newbie). It should be able to allow external build t | 18:50 |
Shuo | I don't know who I am with to you guys :-), but just think loudly here. | 18:51 |
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clarkb | Shuo: I think its totally fine to run bazel from zuul if that is something you want to do, and bazel was just a nexample of a smarter distcc | 18:51 |
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clarkb | I was just trying to express that if we get to the point where we need to distribute and cache the artifacts anyways then maybe we should build atop existing tools that solve that very problem | 18:52 |
clarkb | (of which there are many0 | 18:53 |
mordred | yah. I _definitely_ do not think we should write a thing that's like bazel | 18:53 |
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pabelanger | clarkb: mordred: sorry, been debugging an ansible issue on ubuntu-xenail. I think we are missing dbus on xenail, which is causing some issues with systemd not working as expected | 18:54 |
clarkb | yes systemd likes to do things over dbus, like dns | 18:55 |
clarkb | pabelanger: any idea if that should be fixed in ubuntu packages (eg systemd dep on dbus?) | 18:55 |
pabelanger | Right, that is what I am going to check shortly | 18:56 |
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pabelanger | but we could add the dependency in DIB now, and fix the package | 18:56 |
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clarkb | yup, I guess the other question is whether or not systemd is depending on dbus when it shouldn't (eg is there a systemd bug?) | 18:57 |
Shuo | clarkb/mordred, but bazel is a tool Google built for utilizing their engineers' desktop/workstation capacity (the cycle stealing idea). I am thinking how it fits into this build-farm context. | 18:57 |
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clarkb | Shuo: the same way distcc would if your concern is rebuilding things being expensive | 18:58 |
clarkb | basically keep enough state around in the the sytem as a whole that rebuilds are cheap even if you do them for every job | 18:58 |
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clarkb | and then that has the benefit of making each jobs abstracted list of steps self contained should one want to reproduce locally | 19:01 |
clarkb | (my biggest gripe with the multi step dance that jenkins or our publishing pipeline use is its fairly disconnected from what one would do locally to reproduce) | 19:02 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Combine ZKTestCase with DBTestCase https://review.openstack.org/383962 | 19:03 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Supply ZK connection information to test configs https://review.openstack.org/383963 | 19:03 |
Shuo | clarkb: my concern was not about 'being expensive'. Actually, I remember that after Google engineers adopted Bazel, they average build time reduce to 1/4 -- a clear win for engineers | 19:03 |
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Shuo | clarkb: what I do want to discuss is that how the cycle stealing (zuul thought a build is scheduled to machine A, but because of bazel, machine B and C are participating compilation -- therefore resource from B and C are consumed yet zuul does not know) | 19:05 |
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Shuo | "how the cycle stealing" --> "how the cycle stealing idea (bazel) works with contral scheduling idea (zuul)" | 19:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Don't run gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional-neutron on liberty or mitaka https://review.openstack.org/396366 | 19:07 |
mordred | Shuo: I tihnk the two don't have to be in conflict, should someone want to use something like bazel with zuul | 19:07 |
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mordred | Shuo: zuul's job is to construct some speculative respository states and then make sure those are run somewhere. | 19:07 |
AJaeger_ | jeblair: thanks for restarting zuul-launcher, approving a security-doc change now to see whether publishing works as expected | 19:08 |
mordred | if the farm of build machines happens to also be a bazel farm because someone is in to using bazel for things | 19:08 |
mordred | I don't think zuul has to care about that | 19:08 |
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Shuo | mordred: will we then end up with zuul thinks machine B is still with extra capcity (so zuul schedule a speculative job onto it), but actually machine B has been already ocupied fully by bazel jobs? | 19:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Restrict gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional <= Newton https://review.openstack.org/396368 | 19:11 |
mordred | Shuo: not sure - it we get that far into this topic, we will almost certainly have ot learn some things :) | 19:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Cascade story deletes to tasks and events https://review.openstack.org/394051 | 19:13 |
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clarkb | sc68cal: and https://review.openstack.org/392934 shouldn't conflict with your chagne because 392934 is just setting that one flag | 19:17 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Adding a new project syntribos-payloads https://review.openstack.org/390621 | 19:17 |
sc68cal | clarkb: excellent | 19:18 |
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clarkb | infra-root can I get reviews for https://review.openstack.org/392934 as mriedem says it is ready to go and is around to keep an eye on it | 19:18 |
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clarkb | sc68cal: looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394895/7/devstack-vm-gate.sh it might be nice if we maybe have feature matrix read an env var for role? then we don't need to translate eg MULTI_KEYSTONE to primary_keystone and subnode_keystone | 19:20 |
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mriedem | clarkb: i've also put this up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396368/ - less important for now, but needs to get in | 19:20 |
clarkb | though the need for two different values there may make that complicated. Hrm | 19:20 |
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clarkb | mriedem: done | 19:20 |
mriedem | danke | 19:20 |
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sc68cal | clarkb: I'm open to suggestion, but I was mostly looking to avoid changing how d-g is invoked and what env vars to use, in the first pass | 19:21 |
clarkb | sc68cal: ya it sounded like an excellent idea at first but thinking about how to implement it is getting :/ | 19:21 |
clarkb | sc68cal: basically idea would be to avoid needing that translation layer in d-g, maybe by just having two vars. SUBNODE_ROLE and PRIMARY_ROLE | 19:22 |
clarkb | set them as appropriate for a few common base sets (like in your first chagne) | 19:22 |
sc68cal | I do like that idea | 19:22 |
clarkb | then force "special" jobs to override them in the job itself | 19:22 |
* AJaeger_ celebrates and thanks jeblair ! | 19:22 | |
clarkb | AJaeger_: did it work? | 19:22 |
AJaeger_ | jeblair: both http://docs-beta.openstack.org/ja/security-guide/ and http://docs-beta.openstack.org/security-guide/ are published! | 19:22 |
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pabelanger | clarkb: mriedem: +3 | 19:23 |
clarkb | pabelanger: ty | 19:23 |
sc68cal | clarkb: *_ROLE env vars would be better - it's worth a follow up patch | 19:23 |
AJaeger_ | jeblair: and http://docs-beta.openstack.org/developer/trove/ was pushed as well! | 19:23 |
AJaeger_ | Looks good on first checking! | 19:23 |
mordred | clarkb: so if jobs all explicitly set DEVSTACK_GATE_NEUTRON the nova-net change above should be a no-op for them, right? | 19:23 |
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AJaeger_ | clarkb: yes, it did! | 19:24 |
clarkb | mordred: yes | 19:24 |
mriedem | mordred: yup | 19:24 |
mordred | \o/ | 19:24 |
mriedem | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392942/ | 19:24 |
clarkb | mordred: idea being if you know what you want ok you get that, otherwise we should stop defaulting to nova net everywhere as we need to not use it soon | 19:25 |
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mordred | yay! (at some point we'll have to figure out how to continue testing shade's nova-net support, but I will be _very_ happy when that is a real problem thathas to be addressed | 19:26 |
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jeblair | AJaeger_: yay! | 19:26 |
mordred | AJaeger_, jeblair: WOOT! | 19:27 |
clarkb | mordred: likely you will wnat a job that deploys newton with nova net and tests shade against that | 19:27 |
ianw | clarkb: so ...something is going on with uploads i think. http://paste.openstack.org/show/588810/ <- this was from yesterday afternoon my time when i was rebuilding f24. i'm guessing they're stuck | 19:27 |
clarkb | mordred: but ya we can cross that bridge later | 19:27 |
mordred | clarkb: yah. I'll just have to figure out what to do when newton eol's ... but super happy to figure that out then | 19:27 |
clarkb | ianw: thats possible, I have watched the total number of building images fall from 102 to 78 so some portion of it is moving | 19:28 |
mordred | likely just falling back to no-functional-tests for nova-net and only requests_mock/betamax for it | 19:28 |
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ianw | clarkb: right, but a lot seem to get rather stuck, like these ones. one thing is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395941/ because osic-cloud8 seems totally unresponsive to uploads | 19:29 |
clarkb | ianw: ya cloud8 is off right now aiui | 19:30 |
clarkb | maybe we should completely remove it from the config until its ready to come back/ | 19:30 |
cloudnull | mrhillsman: ^ is there an eta on restore ? | 19:30 |
AJaeger_ | jeblair: I'll try to push some more changes and double check that everything works but since I'm travelling this week, I cannot do it right away. | 19:30 |
cloudnull | -cc inc0 / raddaoui | 19:30 |
mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:30 |
mordred | clarkb: if it's completely offline then I do think we should remove it completely - it's easy enough to revert the removal | 19:31 |
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clarkb | mordred: I was just goign to say that, reverting is easy | 19:31 |
mordred | patch coming | 19:31 |
ianw | removing it is 395941 ... i'll juts make sure to delete anything trying to upload there | 19:31 |
ianw | before i disappears from the config | 19:32 |
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mordred | oh - there's already one | 19:32 |
mordred | ianw: do you want me to wait before +A? | 19:32 |
clarkb | ianw: I +2'd but did not approve so you can get the cleanup done | 19:32 |
ianw | i hate to keep harping on it ... i'm happy to look at failures on a more case-by-case basis but without https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:image-log-split i really find it difficult to figure out what errors relate to what | 19:33 |
mrhillsman | ianw clarkb cloudnull no eta on restore as of right now | 19:33 |
mrhillsman | i am thinking possibly after thanksgiving | 19:33 |
mrhillsman | or the week of | 19:33 |
clarkb | ianw: I will rereview that stack | 19:33 |
mrhillsman | not sure anyone is working that week though :) | 19:33 |
mrhillsman | i thought things were ok with it being set to 0 and images could still be uploaded | 19:34 |
mrhillsman | if that should be the case | 19:34 |
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mrhillsman | we can check on why image uploads are not working if you throw some error messages our way | 19:34 |
clarkb | mrhillsman: I think we thought that too until things didn't work as expected | 19:35 |
mrhillsman | lol | 19:35 |
mrhillsman | touche | 19:35 |
clarkb | but clearing the config is simple enough too just not as simple so easy fix | 19:35 |
ianw | mrhillsman: hmm, i guess if the cloud is down, deleting the image doesn't work ootb -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/588812/ | 19:35 |
ianw | seems to return a 500 | 19:35 |
mrhillsman | hrm | 19:36 |
mrhillsman | peeking | 19:36 |
mordred | ianw, clarkb: fwiw, the image builder zk rework is almost done. we should either wait for it or also port this change to that branch | 19:36 |
ianw | mordred: i can port it, it's really just a log message, but the principle is the same | 19:37 |
mordred | (don't seem like it should be a hard change to port - but it's going to need to get ported sooner or later anyway) | 19:37 |
mordred | ianw: yah | 19:37 |
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openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Transition ZK API from dict to object model https://review.openstack.org/394592 | 19:37 |
mordred | ianw: I'm fine with this for now - just wanted to make sure we didn't put a roadblock in front of merging the builder branch | 19:38 |
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clarkb | mordred: I think the big roadblock there now is getting all the testing running again | 19:38 |
mordred | clarkb: yup | 19:39 |
clarkb | ianw: one small thing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394286/2 | 19:40 |
openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: WIP: Enable ec2-api so that ec2-metadata can be moved out of Nova https://review.openstack.org/396373 | 19:40 |
ianw | if mrhillsman can't stop the 500 error, i can take the rather hackish option of hand-editing _deleteImage() to not try looking up the image and just remove it, so it doesn't get orphaned | 19:40 |
mordred | ianw: actually - we just landed a fix in the latest version of shade ... | 19:42 |
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mordred | ianw: to properly return true/false on delete_image as to whether or not it deleted anything or not | 19:42 |
mordred | ianw: we could change that method in nodepool to just call delete_image with the image id and be done with it | 19:43 |
Shrews | mordred: did that land? i thought i -1'd it | 19:43 |
mordred | Shrews: I think I fixed your -1 | 19:44 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Make a private method more privater https://review.openstack.org/395867 | 19:44 |
mordred | yah - it landed | 19:44 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Make search_projects a special case of list_projects https://review.openstack.org/395868 | 19:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Normalize projects https://review.openstack.org/396309 | 19:44 |
ianw | mordred: ok ... if it returns false though, do you just "orphan" the image in the cloud? what if it was something that might work if you tried it again? | 19:44 |
mordred | Shrews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388702/ | 19:44 |
Shrews | mordred: oh, you fixed my -1. didn't get a chance to review it again | 19:44 |
Shrews | ok, i'm fine with it then :) | 19:45 |
mordred | ianw: I believe we actually retry on retryable errors | 19:45 |
clarkb | down to 71 images uplaoding so ya generally we are working | 19:45 |
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mordred | ianw: but you raise a good question if it's a retriable error but the cloud stays in error state for a few days- what do we do with the nodepool record? | 19:46 |
openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add image upload filters for nodepool https://review.openstack.org/394286 | 19:46 |
mordred | ianw: yah - I think just doing the delete is not the right choice for nodepool | 19:47 |
ianw | mordred: maybe we have a "--force" option that says "i know you can't delete the underlying image, just get rid of it in your db"? | 19:47 |
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mordred | ianw: yah. I think that sounds better | 19:47 |
ianw | that would help if you'd forgotten to clean it up before removing from config too | 19:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds deploy guide gate jobs https://review.openstack.org/391499 | 19:51 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add deployment guide script https://review.openstack.org/396378 | 19:51 |
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AJaeger_ | fungi, I broke them up for now to move forward - asettle can figure out whether to use experimental change later ^ | 19:53 |
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mordred | fungi, clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396328/ I had to update the patch since last review - there was an error - so needs re-review if youhave a sec | 19:55 |
mordred | Shrews: also, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396320 is technically a behavior change, although I think the way it's done does not violate API for users | 19:55 |
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mordred | Shrews: (it has 2x +2 already - but mentioning it in case you wanted to look before it landed) | 19:56 |
Shrews | mordred: agreed that is not an API violation | 19:58 |
mordred | Shrews: cool. thanks! | 19:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add option to force image delete https://review.openstack.org/396388 | 20:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Only generate checksums if neither is given https://review.openstack.org/396320 | 20:27 |
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clarkb | mordred: we are down to 62 images uploading, so restart of nodepool for new shade likely needs to happen this evening | 20:29 |
clarkb | and now lunch | 20:29 |
mordred | clarkb: kk | 20:30 |
openstackgerrit | Jerry Zhao proposed openstack-infra/project-config: create project for fuel plugin of fortinet related plugins https://review.openstack.org/326091 | 20:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add option to force image delete https://review.openstack.org/396388 | 20:31 |
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rcarrillocruz | clarkb: sorry for not responding earlier, just arrived from a long drive to where i'm moving to | 20:33 |
rcarrillocruz | i can't think of any problems, so wfm | 20:33 |
rcarrillocruz | (the horizon thing on infracloud) | 20:33 |
clarkb | rcarrillocruz: thanks, I will probably work on throwing up a demo isntance soon and modify the cloud launcher to add in a simple account | 20:33 |
clarkb | (thats where we should manage accouints ya?) | 20:33 |
rcarrillocruz | sure, if you need help or reviews let me know | 20:34 |
clarkb | kk | 20:34 |
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clarkb | I guess I can do privisional testing with the nodepool accoutn and only need a new account if we decide to hand stuff over to the i18n team | 20:34 |
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rcarrillocruz | jeblair: i'll look at the job auth spec soon and get back to you | 20:35 |
clarkb | mriedem: d-g change is about to merge fyi | 20:35 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Smartly set neutron default https://review.openstack.org/392934 | 20:35 |
clarkb | mriedem: ^ and there it is | 20:35 |
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mriedem | yup, bombs away | 20:37 |
mriedem | clarkb: thanks for whipping up the votes | 20:37 |
mriedem | #success We're now running neutron by default in Ocata CI jobs: https://review.openstack.org/392934 | 20:38 |
openstackstatus | mriedem: Added success to Success page | 20:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP: Enable ec2-api so that ec2-metadata can be moved out of Nova https://review.openstack.org/396397 | 20:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add deployment guide script https://review.openstack.org/396378 | 20:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: add branch-automation spec https://review.openstack.org/369643 | 20:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Mark openstackci spec as complete https://review.openstack.org/393492 | 20:46 |
asselin__ | \0/ | 20:47 |
fungi | asselin__: excellent work! | 20:49 |
fungi | i'm gonna take a break to run some errands and grab an early dinner... bbiaw | 20:49 |
asselin__ | fungi, thank you. It was a big team effort. :) | 20:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-minimal from neutron check queue https://review.openstack.org/396398 | 20:51 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Transition ZK API from dict to object model https://review.openstack.org/394592 | 20:51 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Combine ZKTestCase with DBTestCase https://review.openstack.org/383962 | 20:53 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Supply ZK connection information to test configs https://review.openstack.org/383963 | 20:53 |
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jlvillal | clarkb: I figured out what the user to login as was for the nodepool image. 'zuul' :) | 21:03 |
clarkb | ah | 21:03 |
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clarkb | we must magic your key in a eay U didnt realize then | 21:03 |
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clarkb | *I | 21:03 |
openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add option to force image delete https://review.openstack.org/396388 | 21:06 |
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jlvillal | clarkb: I had remembered the job failed without my having an SSH public key and then I went and looked to figure out what it was used for... That should have been my first step. | 21:07 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add getMostRecentBuildImageUpload method to zk https://review.openstack.org/383964 | 21:08 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update waitForImage test method for ZK https://review.openstack.org/383966 | 21:09 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Re-enable test_dib_image_list https://review.openstack.org/383967 | 21:09 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Assume diskimage and image names are the same https://review.openstack.org/383965 | 21:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Sagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: TEST: DONT RECHECK: periodic jobs https://review.openstack.org/359215 | 21:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add release template to openstack/requirements https://review.openstack.org/396404 | 21:25 |
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jhesketh | Morning | 21:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Varun Gadiraju proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Added error message when WORKSPACE var is undefined https://review.openstack.org/396414 | 21:53 |
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clarkb | ianw: nodepool image delete force lgtm but maybe also add a test for it? | 21:54 |
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mriedem | clarkb: heard of any major issues with that neutron by default change yet? | 21:54 |
mriedem | i haven't | 21:54 |
clarkb | mriedem: nope | 21:54 |
openstackgerrit | Caleb Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix subnode deletion https://review.openstack.org/370455 | 21:54 |
clarkb | I should probably do a scan for jobs that should be affected and double check they switched to neutron fine | 21:55 |
clarkb | mriedem: designate was an example of that right? | 21:55 |
mriedem | yeah and trove | 21:55 |
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dmsimard | o/ I have a question about the webserver config on logs.o.o regarding mimetype handling (*.gz) | 21:55 |
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mrhillsman | clarkb ianw cloud8 should be working now | 21:56 |
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dmsimard | After a while and understandably, every file on logs.o.o will be gzipped to minimize the amount of space taken, I can browse html files by going to their "file.html.gz" link but not their "file.html" link, the latter returning a 404. I was wondering if we could add some configuration to try file.ext|file.ext.gz ? | 21:58 |
clarkb | dmsimard: I think you'd have to update (add new) rewriteconds and rewrite rules in https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/templates/logs.vhost.erb to do that | 21:59 |
clarkb | but should be possible | 21:59 |
dmsimard | Like, on nginx I know it's dead simple (ex: http://paste.openstack.org/show/588850/) but I see you're using apache :P | 21:59 |
dmsimard | need to see how to do it on apache | 21:59 |
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clarkb | dmsimard: its mostly already templated in there | 22:00 |
clarkb | basically if does not exist as a file then rewrite to .gz first | 22:00 |
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AJaeger_ | team, do we have some miscounting of nodes in zuul? we have an idle system but post jobs wait long for nodes | 22:02 |
mgagne | is there a way to limit the maximum number of instances of a specific label nodepool should spawn? | 22:02 |
pabelanger | AJaeger_: ubuntu-xenial is failing in rax-ord for some reason | 22:03 |
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pabelanger | could be that | 22:03 |
mgagne | like ubuntu-xenial-super-large-omg: { max-servers: 2 } | 22:03 |
clarkb | mgagne: I don't think so | 22:03 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: POC: Use tripleo-repos in tripleo.sh https://review.openstack.org/395813 | 22:03 |
AJaeger_ | pabelanger: ah - yeah, those nodes are needed | 22:03 |
pabelanger | AJaeger_: I suspect something with glean changed | 22:04 |
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clarkb | glean hasn't had a release in over a month though? maybe we only just now managed to update that image in that cloud? (thats scary if so) | 22:07 |
clarkb | no rax ord xenial image is a week old | 22:07 |
clarkb | so thats not it | 22:07 |
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pabelanger | unless rax changes the network data again | 22:09 |
pabelanger | that's what broke before | 22:09 |
AJaeger_ | jeblair: http://developer-beta.openstack.org/ja/api-guide/quick-start/ is now published! One more test passed ;) | 22:11 |
jeblair | yay! | 22:11 |
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ianw | mrhillsman: working as in accepting uploads? | 22:14 |
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mrhillsman | did not test | 22:15 |
mrhillsman | we resolved what we found to be the issue | 22:16 |
mrhillsman | accepting uploads should be a go | 22:16 |
mrhillsman | all the things were not working so :) | 22:16 |
mrhillsman | ianw | 22:16 |
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ianw | mrhillsman: ok ... sorry, just to be clear, we shouldn't be using it ATM? | 22:18 |
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ianw | clarkb: can do | 22:20 |
ianw | any tips on what zookeeper needs to work for unit tests? | 22:20 |
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clarkb | ianw: I think they are adding that in now so its not quite settled | 22:21 |
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ianw | yeah, i haven't run unit tests even on master locally for a while | 22:22 |
ianw | "dnf install zookeeper && service start zookeeper" doesn't seem to be enough | 22:22 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update waitForImage test method for ZK https://review.openstack.org/383966 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Re-enable test_dib_image_list https://review.openstack.org/383967 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add getMostRecentBuildImageUpload method to zk https://review.openstack.org/383964 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Assume diskimage and image names are the same https://review.openstack.org/383965 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use diskimage name when looking up image on disk https://review.openstack.org/396422 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Override the cleanup interval in builder fixture https://review.openstack.org/396423 | 22:23 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add __repr__ methods to ZK objects https://review.openstack.org/396424 | 22:23 |
clarkb | ianw: oh the unittests run their own zk as long as its installed iirc | 22:23 |
clarkb | so you don't need to service start it | 22:23 |
jeblair | they *might* make ubuntu assumptions about it | 22:24 |
ianw | ahh, ok | 22:24 |
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jeblair | so we could either fix that up... or... | 22:24 |
ianw | i get a lot of "Error: Could not find or load main class org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeerMain" | 22:24 |
jeblair | they do support using a *running* zookeeper, i think you have to set an env variable | 22:25 |
mrhillsman | sorry, we have a ocata summit recap going on | 22:25 |
mrhillsman | ianw | 22:25 |
mrhillsman | you can try uploading | 22:25 |
jeblair | i think we should solve it that way, because i think i like that better than the per-test zk fixture | 22:25 |
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jeblair | (now that we use zk chroot) | 22:25 |
jeblair | and that means nodepool tests don't have to learn how to start zk on different os's | 22:26 |
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jeblair | ianw: i think you just need to set NODEPOOL_ZK_HOST=localhost to use a local running zookeeper | 22:26 |
jeblair | Shrews: ^? | 22:27 |
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ianw | jeblair: ok, seems fedora's zookeeper doesn't ship a default config so it doesn't start up. it does look like it falls back to that in the code, from a quick look, so let me see if i can get zk started... | 22:27 |
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mordred | ianw: maybe we should also get fedora to ship a default config ... the package on ubuntu starting up with zero effort is a very pleasing experience :) | 22:35 |
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dmsimard | clarkb: re: *.gz, I tested something locally that seems to work, I'll submit something | 22:37 |
dmsimard | thanks for pointing me in the right direction | 22:37 |
clarkb | dmsimard: cool and no problem | 22:37 |
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AJaeger_ | jeblair: next tests passed ;) | 22:38 |
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dmsimard | clarkb: there's logs and logs-dev templates, is it a fair assumption that I could test something out in logs-dev just in case this breaks something ? | 22:39 |
ianw | jeblair / modred : ok, problem solved thanks. need to install zookeeper, copy over the default config, start it, then run with NODEPOOL_ZK_HOST. and hope you're not on centos cause there's no zookeeper there | 22:41 |
pabelanger | ianw: how did you make out with zookeeper on centos? Did a packaging happen that you konw of? | 22:41 |
clarkb | dmsimard: yup | 22:41 |
dmsimard | clarkb: thanks^2 | 22:41 |
clarkb | dmsimard: the dev vhost sits in front of the same data to make testing easier | 22:41 |
dmsimard | yeah I noticed, you guys are awesome :) | 22:42 |
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ianw | pabelanger: not yet, just never made it to top of priority list | 22:42 |
ianw | there is a support case | 22:42 |
pabelanger | ianw: ack, I've been working on just using tarball or installing it from source | 22:43 |
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ianw | stupid support site doesn't let me log in. it's Case #01539246 | 22:45 |
ianw | there is some interest | 22:46 |
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Shrews | jeblair: yep | 22:52 |
openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Improve handling of gzipped built html/web applications https://review.openstack.org/396428 | 22:52 |
dmsimard | clarkb: ^ | 22:52 |
Shrews | fwiw, I just use a docker zk image to test | 22:55 |
Shrews | ianw: see above | 22:55 |
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ianw | heh, i got enough problems without adding docker :) | 22:57 |
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bkero | Docker? problems? | 23:00 |
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bkero | Docker solves problems! | 23:00 |
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pabelanger | I really should try docker | 23:03 |
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bkero | docker run -ti pabelanger /bin/bash | 23:03 |
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dmsimard | Docker is so 2015 | 23:07 |
dmsimard | It's all kubernetes now | 23:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add option to force image delete https://review.openstack.org/396388 | 23:11 |
ianw | clarkb: ^ is that what you were thinking? | 23:11 |
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fungi | 99 problems but docker ain't one? | 23:12 |
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ianw | ohhh, my new ubiquiti stuff is coming today ... looks like i've got a date with the roof cavity this weekend | 23:12 |
fungi | dmsimard: while i won't disagree that we're awesome, the logs-dev vhost came about because we already broke logs.o.o more than once ;) | 23:12 |
bkero | ianw: enjoy the new network | 23:13 |
clarkb | ianw: yup +2 | 23:13 |
bkero | and if you're getting air fiber I'm jealous | 23:13 |
sc68cal | ianw: nice choice. I have 3 ubiquiti APs in my house, one for every floor | 23:13 |
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bkero | I hope you have a host around for the java configuration interface | 23:14 |
dmsimard | fungi: oh :) | 23:14 |
clarkb | if gigabit from my isp ever gets cheaper I will have to run cables and then set up better AP configuration | 23:14 |
ianw | bkero: i do ... but i can also run it on my linode instance right? | 23:14 |
sc68cal | i'm using MOCA 2.0 because I'm too cheap to replace all the coax in the walls and re-run cat6e | 23:14 |
fungi | i'm still running 3x cisco e4200 waps. tried to use ddwrt on them for a while but it was a bit unstable on that model (even worse than stock firmware) | 23:14 |
bkero | ianw: With some horrific networking, sure. | 23:14 |
bkero | I would love to own property and have a few Unifi-AP-ACs | 23:15 |
clarkb | sc68cal: a bot of cat6 isn't too pricey, its more the crawling around in attics and crawlspaces that sucks | 23:15 |
clarkb | s/bot/box/ | 23:15 |
sc68cal | clarkb: I don't have an attic, I have drops in the walls, so I'd be threading cables 3 stories down - from master floor to basement | 23:16 |
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fungi | cat6 is rough to punch down though (and worse if you try to crimp ends). i'm sticking with shielded cat5e throughout my place | 23:16 |
clarkb | sc68cal: plumbing snakes help there | 23:16 |
ianw | fungi: yeah, i'm a heterogeneous mix of dd-wrt on old netgear stuff and cheap Chinese ap's ...finally sick of random oddness | 23:16 |
clarkb | I discovered that I have unterminated cat5e behind one wall | 23:17 |
clarkb | not sure what they were thinking there | 23:17 |
fungi | i have a plan to retrofit conduit between floors in this place. i have the flexible usb scope and other tools i need to do it, now i just need to set aside the time | 23:17 |
clarkb | lets just run some cable and do nothing with it! | 23:17 |
bkero | Once I got out of school I decided I didn't want any more ethernet snaking along my floor. So to connect my house's wired connection I'm using gigabit Powerline. | 23:19 |
fungi | i have several generations of powerline ethernet, but in the current house even recent implementations aren't getting good signal between circuits | 23:20 |
clarkb | dmsimard: one thing about ordering of the rules otherwise lgtm | 23:20 |
bkero | Yeah, if they're out of phase you'll get ~2mbit through it. It sucks. | 23:20 |
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ianw | fungi: maybe just splice together a connector with two plugs and bridge the circuit? couldn't hurt, right? | 23:21 |
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fungi | at least our residential power lines are slightly less deadly | 23:22 |
fungi | 110v@20a probably won't do me in | 23:23 |
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ianw | i was a f-ing idiot and trying to probe signals on a digital motor speed controller recently. i have now learnt a lot about why you want isolation transformers, and ground references with oscilloscopes | 23:24 |
ianw | luckily a melted multimeter probe and a dead speed controller were the only victims | 23:25 |
fungi | hah, sounds like pain | 23:25 |
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fungi | my uncle used to have a job servicing the demagnetizers they use to reset tracking strips at libraries and in stores... he tells a story where a bleeder resistor had burned out on one and he didn't notice... touched it with a screwdriver and got thrown across the room | 23:28 |
clarkb | fungi: thats why I look at my uncle funny when he tells me I don't need to kill the circuit before he does work for me | 23:29 |
fungi | he's been desensitized? ;) | 23:30 |
clarkb | yes you intend on being safe, but we are all human and I know I screw up all the time | 23:30 |
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fungi | best jolt i've ever had was off a modem card. didn't unplug the phone line and was in contact with the wrong solder points when a ring came through | 23:31 |
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openstackgerrit | xiaodongwang991481 proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-sfc functional and tempest test to gating https://review.openstack.org/396437 | 23:34 |
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fungi | amusing that modern ring voltage on a pots line is unchanged from the era where they needed it high enough to actually ring a physical bell | 23:37 |
clarkb | fungi: I think its that way beacuse in your part of the world when the hurricane goes through youcan still use the old telephone | 23:38 |
clarkb | its like power over ethernet but better | 23:38 |
fungi | touché | 23:39 |
clarkb | (we always kept the old telephone in the cabinet next to the modern telephone for such emergencies growing up) | 23:39 |
fungi | i used to power "boxes" off phone line voltage growing up. the phone company didn't meter your power draw | 23:39 |
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fungi | meh, i didn't endanger national security like the kids today | 23:41 |
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clarkb | for us though emergency wasn't hurricane went through and cut all power (though that did happen once or twice) it was more power is out again today for the 3rd time. Oh I guess the diesel generator broke down | 23:44 |
bkero | fungi: I'm impressed those little gauge wires could actually power anything | 23:44 |
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fungi | bkero: direct current. it's like magic | 23:45 |
bkero | Ah ok | 23:45 |
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clarkb | aren't parts of manhattan still DC? | 23:46 |
fungi | bkero: ahh, no, these were little analogue circuits for injecting specific audio frequencies at various intervals | 23:47 |
openstackgerrit | Louis Fourie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Networking SFC Data to Grafana https://review.openstack.org/396440 | 23:47 |
fungi | clarkb: i wouldn't be surprised. is that where they pioneered edison's municipal power | 23:48 |
fungi | ? | 23:48 |
clarkb | ya I think so | 23:48 |
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clarkb | basically buildings were built that way back when and many haven't changed/ | 23:48 |
pabelanger | ianw: giving zookeeper build a go under epel7, lets see if package dependencies has changed | 23:49 |
ianw | pabelanger: cool, i had an etherpad where i went though it a long time ago | 23:49 |
pabelanger | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zookeeper-epel7 | 23:49 |
pabelanger | yup, found it | 23:49 |
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