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| jeblair | okay, i've finished the debug dumps | 00:00 |
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| jeblair | there are 0 leaked layouts | 00:20 |
| clarkb | that seems like a good thing but I guess we can't figure out that leak from before without more data | 00:21 |
| jeblair | nope. the cacti graph showed some bumps recently, so i thought we might have something. | 00:23 |
| jeblair | the most commonly used objects list doesn't have any red flags either. about the numbef of objects i'd expect given we currently have 5 layouts in memory | 00:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Update cacti host to files.o.o https://review.openstack.org/528135 | 00:29 |
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| mrhillsman | is there a way to search for etherpads? | 00:31 |
| clarkb | mrhillsman: no | 00:32 |
| mrhillsman | :( | 00:32 |
| mrhillsman | ok, thx | 00:32 |
| ianw | jeblair: is something like 528120,2 supposed to be stuck(ish) or is this a new issue? | 00:33 |
| clarkb | thats largely a side effect of etherpad's design (it is all rendered on the fly so not really indexable) | 00:33 |
| ianw | the log ends abruptly http://zuulv3.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=0a956a596f6646f799723f7e97a710fa&logfile=console.log | 00:33 |
| jeblair | ianw: another system-config change got similarly stuck a while ago | 00:35 |
| jeblair | ianw: i feel certain zuul will timeout eventually. but i was impatient and bumped it out with a commit message update | 00:35 |
| jeblair | ianw: i didn't diagnose the underlying slowness | 00:36 |
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| jeblair | i'm going to restart zuul and zuul-web now | 00:36 |
| jeblair | ianw: which will fix your problem :) | 00:36 |
| ianw | ok :) | 00:37 |
| jeblair | yay! it loaded the config! we're now protected from duplicate dictionary defs | 00:42 |
| jeblair | re-enqueueing | 00:42 |
| clarkb | yaml spec compliant since 2017! | 00:42 |
| jeblair | so glad we didn't wait 2 more weeks | 00:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/puppet-etherpad_lite master: Add basic rspec test https://review.openstack.org/528130 | 00:44 |
| jlvillal | clarkb, That will sound more impressive in about 2.5 weeks :) | 00:44 |
| ianw | don't worry, 2018 will be the year of the TOML | 00:45 |
| jeblair | don't say that word | 00:45 |
| ianw | by 2020 we should be right back to xml where we started :) | 00:46 |
| bkero | New SOAP, I can't wait. | 00:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul master: Update zuulv3 rewrite rules for keys https://review.openstack.org/528138 | 00:49 |
| clarkb | waiting for puppet to run is often like waiting for paint to dry | 00:50 |
| jeblair | clarkb, ianw: that's necessary for the version we're running now ^ | 00:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that gives me something other than watching paint dry to do | 00:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: reading those rules couldn't we just proxy pass everything to the @zuul_web_url? | 00:51 |
| jeblair | fyi watching plater dry is way more fun than paint -- it visibly changes over a week, making all kinds of beautiful patterns (and of course, continues to invisibly change for the next several years). i highly recommend it. | 00:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think we're getting there, but some static stuff is still served directly from the doc root | 00:52 |
| clarkb | jeblair: roger | 00:52 |
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| jeblair | zuul re-enqueue complete | 00:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: is plan to have zuul serve the static stuff so that you can proxy pass? then if that doesn't perform well enough for you you can always do magic in front with apache/nginx/etc ? | 00:55 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yeah. i'd like zuul to serve it all so that's the simplest thing. then if you wanted to layer '/javascript' rewrite rules or whatever on top of that you can | 00:56 |
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| jeblair | that means having zuul know about a static location that isn't its own python install directory, which is where mordred's yarn/webpack work comes in | 00:57 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ok iptables updtaed on logstash.o.o in a way that looks correct | 00:59 |
| jeblair | clarkb: incidentally, next time you're waiting for puppet, you may be interested in https://review.openstack.org/527805 (and also it's child, but that's unrelated) | 00:59 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, and btw, it's thursday: https://review.openstack.org/524024 | 01:00 |
| clarkb | jeblair: oh right so distracted by firewalls | 01:00 |
| clarkb | jeblair: approved | 01:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs master: Add a spec for top-level project hosting https://review.openstack.org/524024 | 01:08 |
| fungi | mrhillsman: worth noting, if there were an etherpad feature which allowed you to search across all pads, it would basically defeat the notion of semi-private pads and the usefulness of read-only urls for pads | 01:09 |
| mrhillsman | unless there was an option to set a pad to read-only and private :) | 01:10 |
| mrhillsman | s/and/and\/or/ | 01:10 |
| fungi | right, those are not (currently) etherpad features. also it has no ability to authenticate someone to have permissions to set a pad to read-only or private | 01:10 |
| fungi | basically no acls | 01:10 |
| mrhillsman | i thought etherpad did have auth | 01:11 |
| fungi | you can auth usernames basically | 01:11 |
| mrhillsman | i know there is a search plugin | 01:11 |
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| jeblair | infra-root: i'd like to get started landing some project-hosting changes tomorrow. i've prepared an etherpad as a guide to what's in gerrit so far. if you could start taking a look at those, i'd appreciate it: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-hosting | 01:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: thanks, pulled up for first thing tomorrow, but i'm about to pack it in for tonight | 01:14 |
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| jeblair | fungi: perfect, thanks and goodnight :) | 01:14 |
| mrhillsman | goodnight fungi | 01:15 |
| fungi | thanks, you all too | 01:15 |
| mrhillsman | may your dreams be filled with 1s and 0s | 01:15 |
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| fungi | they usually are. like bender, in my nightmares i sometimes see a 2 | 01:16 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 01:16 |
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| ianw | clarkb: 2017-12-15 04:34:45.888316 | primary | Notice: /Stage[main]/Etherpad_lite/Exec[install_etherpad_dependencies]/returns: You're running a wrong version of node, or io.js is not installed. You're using v4.2.6, we need v0.10.x, v0.11.x or v0.12.x | 04:38 |
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| AJaeger | ianw, frickler, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528083/ , https://review.openstack.org/526666 and https://review.openstack.org/526942 , please? | 06:22 |
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| ttx | pabelanger: design-summit-prep.o.o you can scrap | 09:03 |
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| andreaf | ianw: yeah that's a good point but stack.sh is kind of monolithic so if we don't orchestrate that via ansible we have to orchestrate it in devstack directly | 09:48 |
| andreaf | ianw: fwiw controller first it's how we do it today in d-g, so perhaps we can start with that and do any optimisations later? | 09:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: WIP: Testing nodejs-jobs https://review.openstack.org/528223 | 10:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Fix npm-run-test job https://review.openstack.org/528224 | 10:32 |
| AJaeger | frickler, could you review ^, please? All npm-run-test jobs are currently broken ;( | 10:32 |
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| frickler | AJaeger: +2 | 10:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard master: Create a StoryBoard gui manual https://review.openstack.org/325474 | 10:49 |
| AJaeger | thanks, frickler | 10:49 |
| AJaeger | config-core, infra-root, please review 528224 to fix all npm-run-test jobs. | 10:50 |
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| jhesketh | AJaeger: lgtm, but isn't the vars redundant? | 10:54 |
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| AJaeger | jhesketh: yes, indeed. Shall I remove? | 11:00 |
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| jhesketh | AJaeger: I'm all for reduced complexity, but it's harmless... frickler: are you still around to re-review? | 11:01 |
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| frickler | jhesketh: yup | 11:02 |
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| jhesketh | AJaeger: I can re-do it quickly if you'd like? | 11:02 |
| jhesketh | AJaeger: nevermind, you appear to be on it :-) | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Fix npm-run-test job https://review.openstack.org/528224 | 11:03 |
| AJaeger | jhesketh, frickler ^ thanks! | 11:03 |
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| jhesketh | AJaeger: cool, lgtm :-) | 11:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Fix npm publishing https://review.openstack.org/528234 | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Fix npm publishing https://review.openstack.org/528234 | 11:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove legacy-npm-upload job https://review.openstack.org/528235 | 11:14 |
| AJaeger | mordred, fungi, you might be interested in those two - a bug in our auto conversion ^ | 11:15 |
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| chandankumar | frickler: https://review.openstack.org/527122 https://review.openstack.org/526863 https://review.openstack.org/526844 https://review.openstack.org/526836 please have a look at these reviews all need one more +2 | 12:16 |
| chandankumar | an d+w | 12:16 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: you updated npm-run-test job in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528224/2/zuul.yaml but npm-run-test job now neither of parent and run.... | 12:18 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: it is still broken | 12:18 |
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| amotoki | AJaeger: are you pareparing a fix? | 12:21 |
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| frickler | amotoki: AJaeger: if we break things, we do it thoroughly it seems. will do a fix | 12:22 |
| amotoki | frickler: AJaeger: this is the new failure mode of npm-run-test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525670/ | 12:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Fix npm-run-test job https://review.openstack.org/528244 | 12:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Jens Harbott (frickler) proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Fix npm-run-test job once more https://review.openstack.org/528245 | 12:26 |
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| frickler | amotoki: yes. you were faster with the fix, I'm goind to approve this now, seems pretty obvious once you look at it | 12:27 |
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| amotoki | frickler: thanks | 12:27 |
| amotoki | btw (openstack-)zuul-jobs refactoring breaks project gates several times like this | 12:28 |
| amotoki | can't we check whether affected tests really work? | 12:28 |
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| frickler | amotoki: yes, we still need to improve at testing patches. at least we are able to test most changes via depends-on now | 12:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Git driver https://review.openstack.org/525614 | 13:33 |
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| dmsimard | AJaeger: I'll +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526666/ ? | 13:46 |
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| frickler | dmsimard: AJaeger: do we have a patch where we can verify that one? | 14:07 |
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| dmsimard | frickler: yeah it was verified with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526668/ | 14:08 |
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| AJaeger | amotoki, frickler : Thanks for fixing! | 14:40 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: I +W the change myself now - thanks | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Create zuul-ci.org zone repo (1/3) https://review.openstack.org/527533 | 14:46 |
| AJaeger | amotoki: it's currently a manual test - we add a dnm change with depends-on - iff we see risk. The npm-run-test breakage(s) were not seen ;( We need to improve testing. For example, the first change removed a playbook that was in use - something we might be able to catch with "normal" tests. I'm just not sure how to do that yet. | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Add dns servers https://review.openstack.org/527526 | 14:51 |
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| pabelanger | ttx: thanks | 14:54 |
| AJaeger | config-core, let's do final step for app catalog retirement, please: https://review.openstack.org/526942 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use yarn and webpack to manage status and streaming https://review.openstack.org/487538 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add babel transpiling enabling use of ES6 features https://review.openstack.org/528295 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add StandardJS linting and analysis https://review.openstack.org/528296 | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Revert "Revert "Add sphinx_python variable to sphinx role and job"" https://review.openstack.org/526666 | 14:59 |
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| dmsimard | AJaeger, frickler: it should be easy to keep an eye if the release jobs are good with zuulv3.openstack.org/builds.html :) | 15:04 |
| dmsimard | job name: build-openstack-releasenotes | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Retiring App Catalog - Final step https://review.openstack.org/526942 | 15:09 |
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| fungi | frickler: good points on 527526 | 15:10 |
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| fungi | in particular, i concur 53/tcp has purposes beyond axfr and signed records | 15:11 |
| fungi | but we'll especially want it once we get dnssec wired up, which hopefully is soon | 15:11 |
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| jeblair | fungi, frickler: ah yep. i'm not expecting that to be the last change for those servers -- i haven't done much testing of that module; i figured since this isn't in production yet, we can develop it in place. | 15:12 |
| jeblair | fungi: and yes, newer puppet-nsd module requires puppet 4. 1.x seems to be the puppet 3 branch | 15:12 |
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| fungi | thanks, that's what i was guessing from their puppet stdlib requirement on 0.2.x | 15:13 |
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| clarkb | finally reviewing the mailman multisite stuff is on my list for today | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jens Harbott (frickler) proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Prepare for replacing elasticsearch02 https://review.openstack.org/528305 | 15:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: once we settle on a distribution of nameservers it would probably be a good idea to write that down in the system-cofnig docs (we run in 3 regions globally distributed) or whatever | 15:15 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Create zuul-ci.org zone repo (2/3) https://review.openstack.org/527534 | 15:16 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, dmsimard, frickler: i was going to spin the first 2 up in dfw+ord since that's where everything else is... should i consider something else? | 15:18 |
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| fungi | jeblair: that sounds reasonable, but maybe consider dfw and vexxhost or something similarly cross-provider? | 15:19 |
| jeblair | or ord + vexxhost? (for quota reasons?) | 15:19 |
| fungi | can always be a down-the-road thing too i guess | 15:19 |
| clarkb | +1 to vexxhost | 15:19 |
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| clarkb | we've been trying to use them more and this is a good example of where that makes sense | 15:20 |
| fungi | i mean, my personal nameservers are both in rax though i split them between iad and syd | 15:20 |
| clarkb | I think once we get ipv6 sorted out in ovh they will be in that mix too but I've not heard back from them on that yet | 15:20 |
| fungi | for wider geographic diversity | 15:20 |
| frickler | rax-dfw seems pretty low on quota, see my remarks in -sprint earlier | 15:20 |
| dmsimard | +1 not to put everything at rax | 15:21 |
| dmsimard | whether that means using vexxhost or ovh is up for debate | 15:21 |
| dmsimard | vexxhost is only in Montreal afaik, ovh has regions in europe which might be interesting | 15:21 |
| fungi | vexxhost we need to remember to request reverse dns entries. ovh we still have ipv6 trouble in for now | 15:21 |
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| fungi | oh, also i vaguely recall mnaser saying something about not having the ability to set reverse dns entries in ip6.arpa zones, but maybe i'm misremembering or perhaps that's solved now | 15:23 |
| fungi | at any rate, we don't have v6 reverse dns on mirror01.ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.openstack.org | 15:25 |
| fungi | Host 6.d.1.d.2.e.e.f.f.f.e.3.6.1.8.f.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.1.e.4.0.6.2.ip6.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) | 15:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: we typically don't have reverse records for the mirror nodes fwiw. Maybe have just never asked | 15:26 |
| clarkb | (at least outside of rax) | 15:26 |
| fungi | sure, merits double-checking | 15:26 |
| fungi | we do have v4 reverse dns for for that server, fwiw | 15:27 |
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| fungi | same story with nb03.openstack.org and planet01.openstack.org (our other two servers there) | 15:29 |
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| jeblair | it would be nice if our nameservers had working rdns... but i guess we can live without it for a while? | 15:33 |
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| clarkb | I think so, there aren't expectations for rdns off the top of my head unless dnssec uses it somehow? | 15:35 |
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| jeblair | not that i'm aware of | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Correctly use project name in getGitUrl https://review.openstack.org/528309 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Initialize github auth in getGitUrl if needed https://review.openstack.org/528310 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use configured github server in app mode https://review.openstack.org/528311 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix github app authentication in _getNeededByFromPR https://review.openstack.org/528312 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add the project to GithubUser https://review.openstack.org/528313 | 15:38 |
| jeblair | PSA: if you're using firefox, you may have an unexpected extension automatically installed by mozilla: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15931730 | 15:39 |
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| mordred | jeblair: that's amazing | 15:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: just what I've always wanted | 15:40 |
| jeblair | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15932234 "At least it's an authentic immersion into the world of dubious computer ethics. " | 15:40 |
| clarkb | firefox 58 beta also performs less well with gerrit reviews than 57 did | 15:41 |
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| AJaeger | dmsimard: oh, yes! That page is a godsend! | 15:42 |
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| jeblair | AJaeger: we just call him "tristanC" | 15:42 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: this one is even better: http://zuulv3.openstack.org/builds.html?job_name=publish-openstack-releasenotes | 15:43 |
| AJaeger | all green ;) | 15:43 |
| mordred | jeblair: also - +1 to putting the nameservers in not-rax | 15:43 |
| AJaeger | and the one exception is ignoring my proposed fix ;( | 15:43 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: ;) | 15:44 |
| * AJaeger thanks tristanC | 15:44 | |
| fungi | jeblair: clarkb: yeah, you _can_ run a nameserver without it having reverse dns. though we're generally not comfortable running any servers without reverse dns entries, and so missing them on (some of) an authoritative nameserver's addresses seems especially weird. but i agree we can live with it for at least a little while if there's no good alternative | 15:46 |
| jeblair | fungi: gandi supports dnssec on .org, so we should be able to try it out with zuul-ci.org | 15:46 |
| mnaser | We can do reverse DNS for ipv4 and probably work something out for ipv6 | 15:46 |
| mnaser | It is a manual process unfortunately. No API yet. That’s something which needs work on our side | 15:47 |
| fungi | jeblair: cool. though, i mean, most registrars have dnssec support these days so i'm not surprised there | 15:47 |
| jeblair | fungi: ya. the last time i touched dnssec that wasn't the case :) | 15:47 |
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| fungi | heh. i even have an icelandic domain with working dnssec | 15:48 |
| jeblair | something something lookaside validation something | 15:48 |
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| fungi | mnaser: thanks for the confirmation. i was hoping i had imagined that, but i guess not. excited to know when you work out some solution though! | 15:49 |
| mnaser | fungi: I think the options are there we just need to work a bit on implementing hem | 15:50 |
| mnaser | Them* | 15:50 |
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| fungi | mnaser: we're looking at sticking one of our new authoritative nameservers in our control plane tenant in vexxhost ca-ymq-1 as long as you don't have any concerns (should be a pretty tiny instance and won't generate much traffic at all) | 15:51 |
| fungi | no recursive support, no open axfr | 15:51 |
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| mnaser | fungi: absolutely no concerns at all | 15:55 |
| mnaser | It looks like you’ve already addressed all the ones that are concerning :p | 15:55 |
| mnaser | So you don’t end up being part of an amplification attack. | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: WIP: Testing nodejs-jobs https://review.openstack.org/528223 | 15:56 |
| fungi | mnaser: yup. we have, well, at least a _few_ people who have run very large public dns deployments over the years ;) | 16:01 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: I'm going to start splitting components for ara 1.0 into different modules (and git repositories) so that, for example, you don't end up installing a bunch of web application dependencies if you only want the callback. The question I have is, do I have to regroup those projects under a governance or something ? | 16:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Clean up openstack_project::server for kdc01 / kdc02 https://review.openstack.org/528319 | 16:02 |
| mnaser | 😃 | 16:02 |
| dmsimard | fungi: ^ perhaps a TC question actually | 16:02 |
| mordred | dmsimard: what's ara under now? | 16:02 |
| dmsimard | mordred: nothing | 16:02 |
| mordred | dmsimard: then no, you have no governance work to do :) | 16:02 |
| fungi | dmsimard: you can do whatever you like with that | 16:03 |
| fungi | as mordred says | 16:03 |
| dmsimard | mordred: ok so I just set up the group ACL and re-use it and that's it ? | 16:03 |
| mordred | dmsimard: you may want to make them all use the same gerrit acl config file | 16:03 |
| mordred | dmsimard: yup | 16:03 |
| dmsimard | yeah | 16:03 |
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| fungi | yep, that's it (assuming you're trying to avoid managing membership for per-repo groups) | 16:03 |
| dmsimard | ok, I mean maybe one day the project would be under openstack-infra if that's what we want (I wouldn't particularly mind) but right now it's standalone | 16:04 |
| dmsimard | thanks | 16:04 |
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| dmsimard | jeblair: wow that firefox thing is all kinds of messed up | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Prepare for replacing elasticsearch02 https://review.openstack.org/528305 | 16:06 |
| clarkb | frickler: ^ that has merged, hopefully ansible puppet applies it soon though you can trigger puppet directly (not sure if you have done that yet and want more infos) | 16:07 |
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| pabelanger | mnaser: woah, that emjoi was rendered in my weechat client. Need to see how to disable | 16:08 |
| mnaser | Haha! | 16:08 |
| clarkb | I got a blank line | 16:09 |
| dmsimard | mnaser>😃 | 16:09 |
| clarkb | also in weechat, probably because I use old weechat | 16:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Clean up cacti.o.o node settings https://review.openstack.org/528133 | 16:09 |
| dmsimard | rendered in both weechat and the glowing bear frontend | 16:09 |
| dmsimard | always surprised to see those every now and then | 16:09 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: replied to your comments on the continuous deployment dashboard spec, thanks a lot for review | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Delete design-summit-prep node https://review.openstack.org/528306 | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Create zuul-ci.org zone repo (3/3) https://review.openstack.org/527535 | 16:15 |
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| TheJulia | out of curiosity, Has anything happened that would cause a host key error in a job? | 16:22 |
| TheJulia | http://logs.openstack.org/76/528276/1/gate/ironic-inspector-tox-func/d395de2/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-12-15_15_17_53_923191 | 16:22 |
| TheJulia | during posts, specifically | 16:23 |
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| pabelanger | TheJulia: we usually see that is there is a ghost instances still running in a region, it comes back online with same IP, and zuul-executor connects to it. Let me see which cloud it is | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add kerberos / afs dns info https://review.openstack.org/528323 | 16:24 |
| pabelanger | inap, so we might be able to ask mgagne to help debug | 16:25 |
| TheJulia | pabelanger: Okay, I won't proceed to freakout then :) | 16:25 |
| pabelanger | TheJulia: yah, for now a recheck would be in order. But thanks for pointing it out | 16:26 |
| jeblair | TheJulia: i feel like that error message has given you permission to freak out, should you feel it's helpful. :) | 16:26 |
| TheJulia | lol | 16:26 |
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| fungi | seems to happen semi-regularly in inap from what i've seen. nova loses track of a vm and it's still running and fighting (probably via arp-overwrite) with an address reassigned by nova to a newly-booted instance | 16:34 |
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| fungi | i think they must have some separate/async cleanup pass catching those, because by the time we notice the job failures the address is no longer in use/responding | 16:35 |
| ianychoi | AJaeger, Hello, may I ask which part in a log file: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/horizon/stable/pike/propose-translation-update/b014a70/job-output.txt.gz in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-December/003163.html is related with Arabic language? I cannot find appropriate pointer on Arabic language even though I skimmed the log file.. | 16:35 |
| * fungi needs to go run some lunchtime errands, but will bbiaw | 16:36 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Correctly use project name in getGitUrl https://review.openstack.org/528309 | 16:36 |
| AJaeger | ianychoi: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/horizon/stable/pike/propose-translation-update/b014a70/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-12-12_06_18_59_034300 | 16:37 |
| AJaeger | and further below "msgfmt: found 4 fatal errors" | 16:37 |
| AJaeger | mordred: are you around? | 16:37 |
| ianychoi | Oh stable/pike.. I see thanks! | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add kdc04.o.o xenial node https://review.openstack.org/528328 | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: npm-test needs xvfb etc https://review.openstack.org/528329 | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: npm-test needs xvfb etc https://review.openstack.org/528329 | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zone-zuul-ci.org master: Initial commit https://review.openstack.org/528331 | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Migrate some jobs in-tree https://review.openstack.org/528223 | 16:42 |
| jeblair | fungi: ^ seem like a reasonable layout? https://review.openstack.org/528331 | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | mordred - found and fixed it myself - see 528329 and 528223 | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | fungi, amotoki, dmsimard sorry one more fix needed, testing now ^ | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Migrate some jobs in-tree https://review.openstack.org/528223 | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove some legacy nodejs storyboard-webclient jobs https://review.openstack.org/528333 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: remove migrate storyboard-webclient jobs https://review.openstack.org/528334 | 16:46 |
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| ender948 | hi | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Migrate some jobs in-tree https://review.openstack.org/528223 | 16:49 |
| AJaeger | mnaser: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526983/ for the puppet PTL? | 16:50 |
| mgagne | fungi: our team is working on it | 16:52 |
| ianychoi | AJaeger, I fixed the Arabic string (Strangely, I just searched propose-translation-update-horizonmaster branch failure..), and I think the translation job will work fine for stable/pike branch. | 16:55 |
| mgagne | now if someone can tell me if running_deleted_instance_action config in Nova is actually working or if it's bugged/broken... | 16:56 |
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| AJaeger | ianychoi: btw. do you know http://zuulv3.openstack.org/builds.html?job_name=propose-translation-update - that's a nice overview ;) | 16:57 |
| AJaeger | ianychoi: thanks, glad to hear! | 16:57 |
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| ianychoi | AJaeger, I started to observe some failure from http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/test/propose-translation-update - I don't know why master branch jobs failed.. | 16:59 |
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| ianychoi | AJaeger, I might have started from different failure situation rather than the e-mail | 16:59 |
| AJaeger | ianychoi: ah, so master fails as well - let's check... | 17:00 |
| AJaeger | ianychoi: "echo 'Job already approved, exiting'" for today's job | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Initialize github auth in getGitUrl if needed https://review.openstack.org/528310 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use configured github server in app mode https://review.openstack.org/528311 | 17:02 |
| AJaeger | ianychoi: and indeed, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527310/ - zuul did not get the event. Let's recheck... | 17:02 |
| ianychoi | AJaeger, aha.. haha that also causes some failure.. :) | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use yarn and webpack to manage status and streaming https://review.openstack.org/487538 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add babel transpiling enabling use of ES6 features https://review.openstack.org/528295 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add StandardJS linting and analysis https://review.openstack.org/528296 | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix StandardJS warnings and turn them to errors https://review.openstack.org/528297 | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target https://review.openstack.org/528298 | 17:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix github app authentication in _getNeededByFromPR https://review.openstack.org/528312 | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add the project to GithubUser https://review.openstack.org/528313 | 17:05 |
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| mgagne | pabelanger, fungi: the orphan instance got deleted | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: npm-test needs xvfb etc https://review.openstack.org/528329 | 17:07 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: ^^ that lgtm - but since I haven't been tracking all the things fully - is there a reason to not just add xvfb and friends to bindep.txt ? | 17:08 |
| ender948 | Well, I will see all of you next Friday. | 17:09 |
| AJaeger | mordred: some repos have not done it ;( But we also need to run xvfb and set DISPLAY:99 | 17:09 |
| AJaeger | mordred: and those two are the important ones | 17:09 |
| mordred | AJaeger: gotcha | 17:09 |
| AJaeger | mordred: how are you today? | 17:10 |
| mordred | AJaeger: doing better - still a little iffy, but I think I'm past the worst of it and *possibly* human again | 17:10 |
| AJaeger | glad to hear | 17:10 |
| mordred | of course, I'm celebrating by subjecting people to javascript tooling patches | 17:10 |
| AJaeger | what is the status of the docs jobs? We need to move forward with them since publishing for some projects (all using horizon or neutron in required-projects) is still broken ;( | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Install yarn if needed in javascript jobs https://review.openstack.org/527771 | 17:11 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: yeah, took us three changes to fix one of your changes ;) | 17:12 |
| AJaeger | hope 52771 does not cause similar trouble :) | 17:12 |
| AJaeger | mordred: I also cleaned up a few npm jobs. Now we need the npm docs *publishing* job - but before doing that, i wanted to see all your docs publishing changes in... | 17:13 |
| mordred | AJaeger: yes, I agree ... once we land the main docs change, we can get rid of the nodejs-npm-docs job - and just use the sphinx job | 17:14 |
| AJaeger | mordred: really? Let's test that, please ;) | 17:15 |
| mnaser | AJaeger: checking with team first re: puppet zuul jobs | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use configured github server in app mode https://review.openstack.org/528311 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix github app authentication in _getNeededByFromPR https://review.openstack.org/528312 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add the project to GithubUser https://review.openstack.org/528313 | 17:16 |
| mordred | AJaeger: yah - I mean, that's the ultimate goal- that we have one sphinx job that builds sphinx things regardless of what language the project happens to be written in ... but yes to demonstrating .... lemme push up a depends-on patch | 17:16 |
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| AJaeger | mnaser: sure, thanks | 17:17 |
| amotoki | mordred: AJaeger: regarding npm-run-test, i think adding chromium and xvfb to bindep.txt is the right solution, but previously they are installed during the test setup, so the sudden change is not good. | 17:17 |
| AJaeger | config-core, can we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525690 , please? | 17:17 |
| AJaeger | sorry, zuul-cores ^ | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use python3 for docs publication https://review.openstack.org/525718 | 17:18 |
| AJaeger | mordred: anything else that can go in besides 525690 and 525718 ? | 17:18 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: if you're ready for it, yep. :) | 17:18 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: we hope we are - dependency is in, tests worked | 17:19 |
| AJaeger | mordred: what is missing for https://review.openstack.org/521145 ? | 17:19 |
| AJaeger | thanks, jeblair | 17:19 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: 525718 depends on 521557 which you -1 | 17:19 |
| amotoki | mordred: AJaeger: we need to add them to bindep.txt in each repo before dropping them. I haven't added them to horizon bindep.txt to horizon yet. is it better to start to add them to project bindep.txt? | 17:20 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: indeed... | 17:21 |
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| AJaeger | amotoki: we first would need to make the Xfvb invocation dependend on whether xfvb is installed (in zuul-jobs repo). | 17:21 |
| AJaeger | amotoki: so, right now adding them is nice but we cannot remove them yet. | 17:21 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: I see. that totally makes sense. | 17:22 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: I think we need to announce it to horizon plugins too (perhaps via the dev list) | 17:23 |
| AJaeger | amotoki: if you want to do it, go for it! Right now that cleanup has no priority for me. I need the job working and then will fix other things | 17:24 |
| pabelanger | mgagne: woot, thanks! | 17:25 |
| mgagne | pabelanger: now to debug why running_deleted_instance_action=reap doesn't work for us... | 17:25 |
| AJaeger | mordred: did you see my -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521557/ ? | 17:25 |
| mordred | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/528349 Add sphinx doc building job | 17:25 |
| mordred | AJaeger: looking | 17:25 |
| pabelanger | mgagne: ++ | 17:25 |
| dmsimard | jeblair, AJaeger: I just -W'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525690/ | 17:26 |
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| dmsimard | don't let that merge, it's the wrong setting | 17:26 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: I can send a mail. I understand your situation and agree it is not a priority. merging changes in multiple repos will take time, so I just think it is better to request plugin maintainers to do that earilier. | 17:26 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: oh? Please tell why... | 17:27 |
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| AJaeger | amotoki: sure, appreciated! | 17:27 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: adding a comment now | 17:27 |
| mordred | AJaeger: oh- thnaks - that's a rebase issue | 17:27 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: sure | 17:27 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: commented | 17:28 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: thanks! Will fix | 17:29 |
| dmsimard | not sure if putting a -W vote on a +W patch actually prevents the merge | 17:29 |
| jeblair | it will | 17:29 |
| jeblair | fwiw, the docs still build | 17:29 |
| jeblair | i imagine they're just building with py2 | 17:29 |
| dmsimard | yeah | 17:30 |
| jeblair | http://logs.openstack.org/90/525690/5/gate/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/a6ea0c7/html/ | 17:30 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: indeed, we changed the dependent change but not this one ;( | 17:30 |
| dmsimard | no worries | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Update sphinx jobs to use python3 https://review.openstack.org/525690 | 17:31 |
| AJaeger | fix ^ | 17:31 |
| dmsimard | +2 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Use the new sphinx PTI for special publish jobs https://review.openstack.org/521557 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Switch remaining docs publications jobs to sphinx https://review.openstack.org/525734 | 17:33 |
| mordred | AJaeger: ^^ there you go | 17:34 |
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| mordred | amotoki, AJaeger: for javascript/sphinx integration, we have sphinx docs for narrative docs and jsdoc for SDK level docs - we can see using the second in legacy-js-openstack-lib-nodejs6-npm-sdk-docs | 17:38 |
| AJaeger | thanks, mordred | 17:38 |
| mordred | to my knowledge, nothing is using 'npm run docs' or 'npm docs' except for js-openstack-lib and js-generator-openstack | 17:39 |
| mordred | while working on the zuul javascript stuff, I came across https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sphinx-js/ - which allows one to incorporate jsdoc annotations in a set of sphinx docs like we do with python docs | 17:40 |
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| mordred | amotoki, AJaeger: for now it doesn't seem like it's a problem we ACTUALLY need to solve collectively since there are only two projects (both of which are very unactive) | 17:43 |
| AJaeger | mordred: 521557 LGTM - but something fishy is still going on with javascript-run-test; so will look at that now | 17:43 |
| mordred | amotoki, AJaeger: but I wanted to bring sphinx-js to your attention in case we *do* get to a point where we want to incorporate jsdoc annotations - it seems like potentially a nice way to do so | 17:43 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: 528223 is the javascript problem. Not sure whether it's your change or mine that is broken... | 17:44 |
| mordred | AJaeger: looking | 17:44 |
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| jeblair | fungi: let me know when you're back... i have some dns questions for yo | 17:46 |
| AJaeger | mordred: I'll take care of dinner in a few minutes... | 17:46 |
| AJaeger | mordred: http://logs.openstack.org/23/528223/5/check/nodejs-npm4-run-test-unit/d8656ba/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-12-15_17_36_20_686331 "MODULE failure"? | 17:46 |
| AJaeger | mordred: in apt-cache update??? | 17:46 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: ara says 'sudo: a password is required' | 17:48 |
| AJaeger | mordred: argh ;( | 17:48 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: thanks | 17:48 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: darnit. what's trying to run an apt-get update after we do revoke-sudo? | 17:49 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: sudo is revoked by the earlier pre playbook | 17:49 |
| mordred | btw - important as it is, revoke-sudo makes composing things through inheritance VERY hard | 17:49 |
| AJaeger | mordred: indeed - that's why we need the pre-test.yaml | 17:50 |
| mordred | yup | 17:50 |
| AJaeger | so, what exactly is needing sudo and fails? | 17:50 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Create the "ara-web" project https://review.openstack.org/528358 | 17:50 |
| mordred | AJaeger: the content of pre-test.yaml | 17:51 |
| mordred | AJaeger: we need to remove the 'parent: nodejs-npm' from nodejs-npm-run-test | 17:51 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: argh, yes. | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | seen it - on it... | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | thanks | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add Zuul project layout for ara-web https://review.openstack.org/528360 | 17:52 |
| mordred | clarkb: have a sec to +3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525690/ ? it's ready | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Clean up openstack_project::server for kdc01 / kdc02 https://review.openstack.org/528319 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: npm-test needs xvfb etc https://review.openstack.org/528329 | 17:54 |
| AJaeger | clarkb, mordred ^ | 17:54 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: ++ | 17:55 |
| * AJaeger rechecked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528223/ for testing... | 17:56 | |
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| AJaeger | mordred: so, my first try to fix your javascript change was broken - and 528329 fixes my first one ;( Hope it's good now... | 17:56 |
| * AJaeger prepares dinner instead of waiting for results ;) | 17:57 | |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix doc typo https://review.openstack.org/528361 | 17:58 |
| mordred | AJaeger: yay for dinner | 17:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Add kdc04.o.o xenial node https://review.openstack.org/528328 | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Add kerberos / afs dns info https://review.openstack.org/528323 | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add Zuul project layout for ara-web https://review.openstack.org/528360 | 18:01 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: please +W 528329 - the storyboard-webclient jobs are passing, so we're good... | 18:08 |
| AJaeger | mordred: and feel free to review the rest of the stack (follow the needed-by), please | 18:08 |
| mordred | AJaeger: stack +3 from me | 18:10 |
| AJaeger | mordred: thanks | 18:10 |
| mgagne | pabelanger: so I found another orphan instance. I'm gonna reserve the IP so Nova doesn't use it and use that orphan instance to debug the reaper. | 18:10 |
| pabelanger | ack | 18:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Update sphinx jobs to use python3 https://review.openstack.org/525690 | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add implied-branches pragma directive https://review.openstack.org/527805 | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add debug project-pipeline option https://review.openstack.org/527828 | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: npm-test needs xvfb etc https://review.openstack.org/528329 | 18:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix doc typo https://review.openstack.org/528361 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add support for protected jobs https://review.openstack.org/522985 | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add babel transpiling enabling use of ES6 features https://review.openstack.org/528295 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add StandardJS linting and analysis https://review.openstack.org/528296 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix StandardJS warnings and turn them to errors https://review.openstack.org/528297 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target https://review.openstack.org/528298 | 18:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: translations: Check for translation-source first https://review.openstack.org/528369 | 18:56 |
| mgagne | pabelanger: so it appears that if you have cellsv1, you try to delete an instance, it's marked as deleted in API database but fails for reasons to delete in compute cell/database, nothing in Nova will try to reconcile the state of the instance in the compute database. The compute database will stay out of sync and instance reaper won't catch it because the instance is not deleted in the compute database. | 18:57 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: javascript run-test jobs are passing again for those projects where I saw failures... | 18:57 |
| mordred | AJaeger: \o/ | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix StandardJS warnings and turn them to errors https://review.openstack.org/528297 | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target https://review.openstack.org/528298 | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix source_url handling for jobs view https://review.openstack.org/528373 | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make bundle of build web content https://review.openstack.org/528374 | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual master: Explain that we need 3 changes for new projects https://review.openstack.org/528375 | 19:20 |
| AJaeger | jeblair, infra-root: Please review the document above for new project creation. We recently run into a race and thus jeblair suggested to split the first change for new projects ^ | 19:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Migrate some jobs in-tree https://review.openstack.org/528223 | 19:21 |
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| AJaeger | infra-root, config-core, please read 528375 so that you are aware of this when reviewing | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: or when creating new repos ^ | 19:23 |
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| AJaeger | config-core, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528333/ - as followup to 528223 that just merged | 19:24 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: I think I need to know what the underlying problem is to understand properly the doc change | 19:24 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: what happened ? what's the race ? | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: jeblair talked in scrollback a few days ago about it. | 19:24 |
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| dmsimard | few days ago :/ | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | basically: We have two changes: add to gerrit/projects and to zuul/main.yaml | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | so, zuul got the change before the repo was created | 19:25 |
| dmsimard | three, because jobs need to be added only after main.yaml was updated | 19:25 |
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| AJaeger | dmsimard: the *first* change touches two files: gerrit/projects and zuul/main.yaml basically (so far) | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | We need to merge first gerrit/projects so that the repo is created | 19:26 |
| dmsimard | hmm you said two changes and mentioned gerrit/projects and zuul/main.yaml separated so I assumed these were two separate changes | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | and then merge zuul/main.yaml (second step) | 19:26 |
| dmsimard | yeah ok | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: old way vs new. Sorry | 19:27 |
| dmsimard | but the jobs can't be added in the same patch as main.yaml | 19:27 |
| dmsimard | so it's really 3 changes | 19:27 |
| dmsimard | 2 changes was already bad but 3 changes is very meh | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | jeblair had to restart zuul since it cached the repo did not exist - and neer checked again. | 19:27 |
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| dmsimard | yeah the problem makes sense to me now | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: I don't like it either ;( | 19:27 |
| jeblair | we should theoretically be able to create repos and add to main.yaml in the same change, however, since project-config isn't version locked during the ansible run, it can change between gerrit and zuul. | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: I think out of 20 repos, it only hit us once - but was only fixable with zuul scheduler restart | 19:28 |
| jeblair | that's the first thing for someone to fix :) | 19:28 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: it didn't cache the result. it would have been fixed at the next config reload. | 19:28 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: yeah I understand the problem. My brain is fried for the week or I'd try to come up with something | 19:28 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: no, it was not. | 19:28 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: the next config reload never happened, because of a bug | 19:28 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: we merged a few changes and it did not hel | 19:28 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: but i promise, there's no caching involved | 19:28 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: I believe you - you know the code ;) | 19:29 |
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| jeblair | AJaeger: i think it's important to know that there is not a general problem related to this. it is always the case that such errors can be fixed by a full config reload. | 19:29 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: ah, ok. So, should we merge the existing changes for repo creation as is - and enforce it with future changes only? | 19:30 |
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| jeblair | AJaeger: if you're willing to tolerate the risk of the race, i think that's fine. | 19:30 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: then I need reviewers ;) | 19:31 |
| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:goal-split-tempest-plugins+is:open+project:openstack-infra/project-config is one list - 4 of those repos can go in | 19:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zone-zuul-ci.org master: Initial commit https://review.openstack.org/528331 | 19:32 |
| fungi | jeblair: i am back, fire away with dns questions | 19:32 |
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| jeblair | fungi: regarding dnssec -- do you have thoughts on key rotation? | 19:33 |
| fungi | checking out 528331 now | 19:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: i've used zkt in the past -- see "Setting up ZKT" in http://amo-probos.org/post/9 | 19:33 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: questions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528358 | 19:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: however, it's not in debuntu; it's ITP has dropped back to a RFP :( | 19:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: so there would be quite a bit of work to git it going | 19:34 |
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| dmsimard | AJaeger: "groups: ara" is not necessary if the gerrit acl is specified ? | 19:35 |
| jeblair | fungi: (ignore the DLV stuff in that doc, as i mentioned, it's old... but i think the process is still the same) | 19:35 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: groups is for storyboard | 19:35 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: oh. | 19:35 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: gerrit ACL is something different | 19:35 |
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| AJaeger | dmsimard: yeah, too many tools configured in one file ;) | 19:35 |
| fungi | jeblair: oh, hrm i'll have to do a little research on possibilities for nsd. i've been relying on bind9's auto-dnssec maintenance with inline-signing | 19:36 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: care to review the goal-split-tempest-plugins changes I linked above, please? | 19:36 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh, that's new to me | 19:36 |
| fungi | jeblair: this stuff: https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-00711/0/In-line-Signing-With-NSEC3-in-BIND-9.9-A-Walk-through.html | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Create the "ara-web" project https://review.openstack.org/528358 | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add Zuul project layout for ara-web https://review.openstack.org/528360 | 19:37 |
| fungi | jeblair: a few years old, so possibly a bit dated now | 19:37 |
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| dmsimard | AJaeger: ^ added a note in commit message that we aren't importing from an upstream | 19:37 |
| jeblair | fungi: still written after my doc :) | 19:38 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: ok, will review... | 19:38 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: LGTM - if we take the race risk... | 19:38 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: oh, right | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: let me split that .. | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | trying to find which of the reviews you mentioned | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | ok nevermind it's a topic | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: those changes are all guility of adding gerrit and zuul simultaneously | 19:40 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh apparently https://www.opendnssec.org/ can be used with nsd and is in ubuntu | 19:40 |
| fungi | nice! | 19:40 |
| fungi | reading now | 19:40 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: so what do we do ? ask reviewer to split ? | 19:40 |
| fungi | jeblair: oh, yeah that looks pretty slick | 19:40 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: yes, indeed. My suggestion above discussed with jeblair : Take them in - and reconfigure zuul if needed. But that's the last time ;) | 19:41 |
| dmsimard | ok | 19:41 |
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| AJaeger | dmsimard: if you don't want to take the risk of the race: Fine with me as well. | 19:41 |
| dmsimard | I'll +W one at a time | 19:41 |
| AJaeger | ok | 19:42 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, looks like xenial has 1.4.9 | 19:42 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: might as well do the same thing for ara-web at the end if we find that merging one a time doesn't seem too dangerous .. | 19:43 |
| fungi | so relevant docs are at https://wiki.opendnssec.org/display/DOCS | 19:43 |
| fungi | er, https://wiki.opendnssec.org/display/DOCS/OpenDNSSEC+1.4+Documentation+Home | 19:43 |
| fungi | i'm taking a look at the "new in 2.0" features to see if we're missing anything terribly important by using that | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove some legacy nodejs storyboard-webclient jobs https://review.openstack.org/528333 | 19:44 |
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| fungi | "In large part OpenDNSSEC 2.0 is similar to 1.4. Especially regarding the signer, workflow, policies and configuration." | 19:45 |
| fungi | so sounds like we're probably not missing much by just using the packages in xenial | 19:45 |
| fungi | 2.0 lets you use a combined zsk+ksk | 19:46 |
| fungi | (a "csk") | 19:46 |
| jeblair | that doesn't sound desirable? | 19:46 |
| fungi | right, i'm not sure what the reasoning is there, but it also sounds optional | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | fungi: auto-dns looks a lot easier to set up... | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add separate repo for ec2-api tempest plugin https://review.openstack.org/526841 | 19:48 |
| fungi | huh, interesting design choice "you also need an HSM" | 19:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: which can be 'soft' i think | 19:49 |
| fungi | presumably their included soft hsm isn't too hard to maintain | 19:49 |
| fungi | yeah | 19:49 |
| fungi | more that i think it's novel that they just baked in the assumption you'll have an hsm and then given you a software-based one with it, rather than making hsm use optional. nice abstraction | 19:50 |
| AJaeger | config-core, final patchset for storyboard legacy job changes, please give me another +2 on https://review.openstack.org/528334 | 19:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kerberos master: Add systemd support for krb5-kpropd https://review.openstack.org/528382 | 19:52 |
| pabelanger | infra-root: ^adds systemd support for puppet-kerberos module, is a backport from artful | 19:52 |
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| jeblair | fungi: https://www.eriklundblad.com/log/post/automatic-dnssec-signing-in-bind/ looks to be the key info for zsk rollover with auto-dnssec | 19:54 |
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| jeblair | fungi: that seems to have specific key names on the cmdline... i'm still struggling with how automatic rollovers happen | 19:56 |
| jeblair | i guess automatic rollover isn't the same as automatic generation and maintenance | 19:57 |
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| mordred | jeblair: it's automatic as long as you do the steps manually | 20:02 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm trying to untangle that | 20:02 |
| fungi | with bind 9.9.5 i don't have any cronjob to do zsk rollover | 20:02 |
| fungi | been a while since i've added a new zone so going back through my notes on what i did | 20:03 |
| jeblair | mordred: heh, actually yeah -- i'm wondering if perhaps 'make 24 keys in advance for the next 2 years' is a step... | 20:03 |
| jlvillal | I'm sad that I'm not authorized :( http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 20:03 |
| jeblair | jlvillal: i am too | 20:03 |
| jlvillal | That's two of us :) | 20:04 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: ^ eavesdrop issues | 20:04 |
| fungi | yeah, i suspect something had a sad in the server replacement there | 20:04 |
| fungi | maybe missing a grant all or something | 20:04 |
| pabelanger | looking | 20:06 |
| jeblair | i'm manually editing the config there | 20:06 |
| jeblair | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Dec 14 20:19 index.html -> /srv/yaml2ical/index.html | 20:07 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: ^ that link is broken | 20:07 |
| bkero | Hm, where are zuul native tests defined? I looked in system-config/zuul.d, although don't see references to, for example, kolla-build-ubuntu-source. | 20:07 |
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| pabelanger | okay | 20:07 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: probably need to either copy those over or run yaml2ical to regenerate | 20:07 |
| AJaeger | bkero: codesearch.openstack.org might help a swell | 20:07 |
| AJaeger | bkero: zuul v3 jobs can be defined in *any* repository | 20:08 |
| AJaeger | bkero: if they followed our naming conventions, it's in the kolla repo itself | 20:08 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: Oh, IIRC, it is because it only generates after we update ical | 20:08 |
| mordred | bkero: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html#where-jobs-are-defined-in-zuul-v3 | 20:08 |
| pabelanger | not periodically | 20:08 |
| pabelanger | let me see if we have any option yaml2ical changes | 20:08 |
| bkero | AJaeger, mordred: Ah thanks. I missed that bit. | 20:09 |
| bkero | I instinctively looked in project-config, but I suppose that is wrong now. | 20:09 |
| bkero | I found them :) | 20:09 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'm going to grab lunch; i'll ping you when i'm back | 20:10 |
| fungi | so, looking through the bind 9.9 docs, it does appear that ksk and zsk rollover is recommended but optional and manual (and perhaps automatable through scripting) but i've not bothered to do it on mine | 20:10 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: mind if we try and land https://review.openstack.org/523869/ to kick yaml2ical? | 20:10 |
| fungi | the auto-dnssec stuff is for rotating signatures before they expire | 20:10 |
| pabelanger | I can see about adding some sort of crontab check to generate if missing | 20:10 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: any idea how the symlink was being maintained on the old server? | 20:12 |
| pabelanger | fungi: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/playbooks/yaml2ical/post.yaml | 20:14 |
| pabelanger | fungi: it is a post playbook that upload the info to eavesdrop server | 20:15 |
| pabelanger | which was outside of cinder volume | 20:15 |
| pabelanger | so, if we land 523869 it will kick of an upload, but need to check our hostkeys are correct | 20:15 |
| fungi | aha | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Update ssh_known_hosts for eavesdrop.o.o https://review.openstack.org/528387 | 20:20 |
| pabelanger | fungi: jeblair: jlvillal apologies, we'll need ^ too to fix our publish jobs for yaml2ical also | 20:20 |
| pabelanger | then we can land 523869 | 20:21 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb: ^ | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix source_url handling for jobs view https://review.openstack.org/528373 | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix StandardJS warnings and turn them to errors https://review.openstack.org/528297 | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target https://review.openstack.org/528298 | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make bundle of build web content https://review.openstack.org/528374 | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kerberos master: Add systemd support for krb5-kpropd https://review.openstack.org/528382 | 20:24 |
| pabelanger | infra-root: ^will also fix systemd on xenial for kerberos | 20:25 |
| pabelanger | hoping to launch kdc04.o.o today | 20:25 |
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| mordred | pabelanger: woot | 20:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Update ssh_known_hosts for eavesdrop.o.o https://review.openstack.org/528387 | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add new repo for Vitrage tempest plugin https://review.openstack.org/526836 | 20:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make bundle of build web content https://review.openstack.org/528374 | 20:38 |
| pabelanger | fungi: thanks, we should approve https://review.openstack.org/523869/ now to confirm uploads work | 20:38 |
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| fungi | done | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Expose serial keyword to base-test playbook https://review.openstack.org/526708 | 20:43 |
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| pabelanger | mordred: dmsimard: ^is related to shared ansible_host in zuul, would be interested in a review if possible | 20:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Clean up inactive meetings https://review.openstack.org/523869 | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add new repo for Monasca tempest plugin https://review.openstack.org/526844 | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target https://review.openstack.org/528298 | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make bundle of build web content https://review.openstack.org/528374 | 20:52 |
| pabelanger | woot | 20:53 |
| pabelanger | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 20:53 |
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| pabelanger | so, we likely want to move that to cinder volume for the next time we migrate the server ;) | 20:53 |
| fungi | or switch to an apache alias entry | 20:54 |
| fungi | but something, yes | 20:54 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: the patch in itself doesn't bother me | 20:57 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: but I wanted to sleep on it because I was wondering if there was a better way to pass arbitrary args to the playbooks | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Added new Bulk events endpoints https://review.openstack.org/528390 | 20:57 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: are we going to need to add any and all parameters like "serial" eventually ? | 20:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Added initial jobs for vitrage tempest plugin https://review.openstack.org/526837 | 20:58 |
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| pabelanger | dmsimard: I don't think so. The the case I am using, it is only the base playbooks that have the issue. | 21:00 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: every other playbook in job, is written correctly to use the inventory file | 21:01 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard, jeblair - yeah, run into the race two times at least ;( http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/monasca-tempest-plugin/ and http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/vitrage-tempest-plugin/ both exist but zuul does not know about them. | 21:01 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: so, how to reconfigure in the best way - or should we get the rest in and then do it? | 21:01 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: another option, in multi node jobs, you may only want to run base on 1 node of the inventory, then from that node, provision things that base does on others. For example, only needing git repos on 1 node in multinode jobs | 21:02 |
| pabelanger | but, figured serial was the simplest way to test atm | 21:02 |
| * AJaeger can also change his +2 to a -1 - but then let's merge the infra-manual change https://review.openstack.org/528375... | 21:02 | |
| jeblair | AJaeger: if they're ready, merge them all and we'll do a manual reconfig if it's still needed at the end. | 21:04 |
| fungi | jeblair: after consulting my notes it appears i never set up (or performed) zsk or ksk rotation (yet anyway). auto-dnssec merely handles refreshing of the rrsigs. bind 9.11 seems to have added a dnssec-keymgr tool designed to run out of cron or similar: https://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.11.0/doc/arm/man.dnssec-keymgr.html | 21:04 |
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| pabelanger | would appreciate a +3 on https://review.openstack.org/528382/ to fix xenial issues with puppet-kerberos | 21:05 |
| jeblair | fungi: cool, that looks like the missing link. | 21:05 |
| fungi | jeblair: and dnssec with bind will work fine without rotating the zsks or ksk, though i agree rotating them is still a good idea | 21:05 |
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| fungi | in case they get leaked or guessed somehow | 21:05 |
| AJaeger | ok, any config-cores to review these new projects: https://review.openstack.org/526863 https://review.openstack.org/528358 https://review.openstack.org/527122 | 21:06 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: ok, checking if there's anything else to merge | 21:06 |
| AJaeger | they all have one +2 by me, so need second reviewer | 21:06 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: see above | 21:06 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: I pinged gordc and sileht about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526863/ | 21:06 |
| jeblair | fungi: looks like 9.11 isn't in ubuntu yet | 21:06 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: if there's more, tell me... | 21:06 |
| dmsimard | left a question | 21:06 |
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| jeblair | fungi: it is in sid | 21:07 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: we can check that later as well ;) But yes, let's wait... | 21:07 |
| AJaeger | no urgency on that one | 21:07 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i'd like to have key rotation in place before we do anything important like sshfp records | 21:07 |
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| fungi | jeblair: i concur. mainly because if we _need_ to revoke/replace a key we'll be able to do it more or less seamlessly | 21:09 |
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| fungi | not so much because i'm worried that having the key in use for longer periods of time will result in successful key oracle attacks against the nameserver or anything | 21:10 |
| fungi | though that is the theoretical concern driving frequent zsk rotation | 21:10 |
| jeblair | fungi: to try to summarize: zkt does signing+generation+rotation, with either server, but is not packaged, so it's easy to use but hard to install. bind+auto-dnssec does signing, and semi-automatic rotation today; in the future it will include dnssec-keymgr to automate everything. we could probably install dnssec-keymgr today simply -- it's python. nsd+opendns will automate everything, but requires drinking a bunch of xml kool-aid. | 21:10 |
| jeblair | and hsm and ... | 21:11 |
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| fungi | that seems like a good tl;dr | 21:12 |
| fungi | i'm honestly fine with any of those solutions | 21:12 |
| fungi | none is perfect, all are viable | 21:12 |
| jeblair | fungi: maybe bind + auto-dnssec without rotation for now, and a future upgrade to include rotation strikes the right effort/reward balance? | 21:12 |
| AJaeger | anybody to +2A dmsimard 's ara-web repo? https://review.openstack.org/528358 | 21:13 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: so in your case, serial: 1 would run still run several times on the same machine though, right ? | 21:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add new repo for Trove tempest plugin https://review.openstack.org/527122 | 21:13 |
| dmsimard | except one after the other | 21:13 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: done | 21:13 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: correct, first run does the things, everything is a noop | 21:13 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: that is how the job runs under v2 | 21:14 |
| fungi | jeblair: seems doable... also if you were wanting to take up your bind+nsd idea, we could operate the bind server as a silent master and the nsd servers as the published authoritative slaves (does nsd handle triggered transfers?) | 21:14 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/windmill/tree/playbooks/bootstrap.yaml | 21:14 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: idempotency is not really tested though, so I'm not sure everything is necessarily noop | 21:14 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: I mean, running the base jobs twice on a single node isn't tested | 21:14 |
| fungi | jeblair: might be paranoid overkill, but could basically limit port 53 on the master to access from the slaves and not expose it otherwise | 21:15 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: right, it is possible things might change, but we can fix that in follow up patch. Easy to do once in base-test | 21:15 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, i expect that to work | 21:15 |
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| pabelanger | dmsimard: but, even if they change, I am okay with that for now. | 21:15 |
| jeblair | fungi: aiui that's similar to how a certain institution of higher ed i have had a passing familiarity with ran their servers. | 21:16 |
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| jeblair | (hidden bind master, mixed bind/nsd slaves) | 21:16 |
| fungi | i had a similar setup in a professional capacity at one point, but with all bind, where the management gui for the front desk operators and customers fed a silent master and then only its slaves were in the tld glue and ns rrs | 21:16 |
| fungi | worked out pretty well | 21:17 |
| fungi | and in a dnssec scenario, adds an extra layer of protection since clients aren't querying the server shish holds the keys | 21:17 |
| jeblair | yeah, i rather like that aspect | 21:17 |
| fungi | s/shish/which/ | 21:17 |
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| fungi | the slaves only ever get the signatures and records | 21:18 |
| dmsimard | fungi, jeblair: all of your discussions have made me wonder... did we ever consider designate ? | 21:19 |
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| dmsimard | (I don't think I've seen it mentioned in the spec) | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Create the "ara-web" project https://review.openstack.org/528358 | 21:19 |
| fungi | dmsimard: it (and explanations for why we didn't go with it) at least came up in discussion | 21:19 |
| dmsimard | fungi: oh, must have missed them | 21:20 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: do you mean running our own? | 21:20 |
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| dmsimard | fungi: probably not in the review, unless ctrl+f designate is failing me | 21:21 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: I don't have an opinion whether we'd consume an existing designate or bring up our own, mostly just curious if we had discussed using it at all | 21:21 |
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| fungi | i'm trying to find where that discussion occurred | 21:24 |
| dmsimard | I know there's a puppet module for designate because I'm the one who did the legwork to make it work in puppet-openstack-integration and RDO | 21:24 |
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| dmsimard | although I am not particularly familiar with it other than that | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add initial jobs for trove tempest plugin https://review.openstack.org/527123 | 21:25 |
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| fungi | it may have been in initial conversations we had before the spec was drafted | 21:25 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: I think we're good for the zuul config reload to clear the race, wdyt ? | 21:25 |
| jeblair | i thought the cloud dns idea came up in the spec | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add Zuul project layout for ara-web https://review.openstack.org/528360 | 21:26 |
| dmsimard | I may have mentioned cloudflare or ultradns | 21:26 |
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| mordred | jeblair: me too | 21:26 |
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| mordred | dmsimard: for me the multi-cloud story was the most important thing in favor of running it ourselves | 21:27 |
| jeblair | https://github.com/thias/puppet-bind | 21:27 |
| jeblair | does that look sane? | 21:27 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: let me check something quickly... | 21:27 |
| jeblair | i'm basically just running down google results | 21:27 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: wait until http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ara-web/ exists | 21:28 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: there's a minimal bind implementation you can perhaps start with here: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/manifests/bind.pp | 21:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: that looks not too insane - not a "use puppet DSL instead of bind config to manage your zones" type of module | 21:28 |
| * mordred is not interested in writing zone files in puppet DSL :) | 21:29 | |
| jeblair | dmsimard: what provides "::dns" ? | 21:29 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/Puppetfile#L233-L235 | 21:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: ya exactly | 21:29 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: cool, that was like one or two google results down :) | 21:29 |
| dmsimard | theforeman is pretty trustworthy imo | 21:29 |
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| dmsimard | oh, huh, I even sent patches their way more than a year ago now | 21:30 |
| * dmsimard once wrote a lot of puppet | 21:30 | |
| jeblair | theforeman looks similarly usable | 21:30 |
| jeblair | maybe start with that due to local experience :) | 21:30 |
| mordred | ++ | 21:30 |
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| fungi | checking | 21:31 |
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| fungi | that looks pretty sane | 21:33 |
| fungi | dmsimard: thanks for the example! | 21:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: thias or theforeman? | 21:34 |
| fungi | theforeman | 21:34 |
| fungi | thias doesn't look bad either | 21:34 |
| fungi | but i'm still digging around in them | 21:34 |
| fungi | theforeman looks like it can be provided with custom config templates too | 21:35 |
| jeblair | i imagine the main thing is we'll want to supply the tsig key externally (via private hiera) so we can do the zone transfers | 21:35 |
| fungi | yup | 21:35 |
| fungi | we could likely put the ksk in hiera too | 21:36 |
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| fungi | unless we want to take a different route with it | 21:36 |
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| dmsimard | I was pulling data from RDO's Zuul SQL reporter to get some minimal metrics -- I did some of it manually but in case you're curious: https://i.imgur.com/r276T9j.png | 21:42 |
| dmsimard | er, that was meant for #zuul T_T | 21:42 |
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| AJaeger | dmsimard: now ara-web is created, time to reconfigure now | 21:48 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: ^ is that a full scheduler restart ? | 21:49 |
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| AJaeger | or perhaps wait until the .gitreview file exists - repo is still empty | 21:49 |
| AJaeger | exists now... | 21:49 |
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| jeblair | AJaeger, dmsimard: wait for puppet to run the reconfigure first | 21:51 |
| jeblair | what time did the last repo create change land? | 21:51 |
| AJaeger | so, after reconfigure, we can +2A (for some after recheck) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528360 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527123/ https://review.openstack.org/526837 https://review.openstack.org/526847 | 21:51 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: ara-web - 21:19 | 21:52 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: see above, two minuts ago the repo was created | 21:52 |
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| fungi | ara-web merged at 21:19, trove-tempest-plugin before it at 21:13 | 21:52 |
| jeblair | according to the "merger queue" graph on http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status the most recent full reconfigure was at 21:04 | 21:53 |
| jeblair | so there will be another one | 21:53 |
| AJaeger | oh, that hUGe spike... | 21:54 |
| fungi | yeah, monasca-tempest-plugin merged at something like 20:45 so was probably the last in the previous batch | 21:54 |
| jeblair | yep, that's 6000 git checkouts. | 21:54 |
| AJaeger | wow | 21:54 |
| caphrim007 | anyone know what version of jenkins-job-builder has the !include-jinja2 syntax? | 21:54 |
| * AJaeger calls it a day and wishes everybody a great weekend | 21:55 | |
| caphrim007 | in 2.0.0.0b2 it raises an error about "could not determine a constructor for the tag !include-jinja2" | 21:55 |
| fungi | caphrim007: you might get better answers in #openstack-jjb | 21:56 |
| caphrim007 | fungi: thanks! didnt know it existed | 21:56 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: looks like we'll need 4.1.0 to be puppet3 friendly (or perhaps 5+ may just require a newer stdlib) | 21:59 |
| dmsimard | uh oh | 21:59 |
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| jeblair | dmsimard: it looks like theforeman doesn't have a way to set zone options that it doesn't know about, and it doesn't know about some dnssec stuff like 'key-directory': https://github.com/theforeman/puppet-dns/blob/master/templates/named.zone.erb | 22:12 |
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| jeblair | or auto-dnssec | 22:12 |
| dmsimard | oh well :/ | 22:12 |
| dmsimard | the usage we do of it in puppet-openstack-integration is admittedly quite narrow in scope | 22:13 |
| jeblair | it looks like thias will pass through config lines verbatim | 22:13 |
| fungi | it looked like dns::config let you pass in custom configuration templates | 22:14 |
| fungi | not ideal i guess, but workable | 22:14 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: I don't think I want to get into that kind of discussion on a friday evening as I'm about to sign off but I left a comment in the ARA dashboard spec -- I'm not very excited about writing new puppet things knowing it's more or less 100% technical debt out the door | 22:14 |
| fungi | maybe i misread the manifest | 22:14 |
| dmsimard | I planned on discussing it at the next infra meeting /me adds it to agenda | 22:14 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: is it tech debt? | 22:15 |
| jeblair | i mean, our system runs via puppet | 22:15 |
| jeblair | i've spent a lot of time this week writing puppet because that's what we have | 22:15 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: I mean in the context of writing puppet 3 things while we need to consider either upgrading to puppet 4 (or 5 by now) or a pabelanger's spec to switch to Ansible | 22:16 |
| fungi | i've also not been especially impressed with ansible's model for configuration management. it's of course way better than puppet for complex orchestration, but the two seem complimentary to me | 22:16 |
| dmsimard | fungi: yeah, there's bound to be discussion in the spec IMO | 22:17 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: oh, yes, i agree, it's getting more difficult to be on puppet 3. aiui, moving to xenial helps with puppet4/5, so we're starting to make headway there | 22:17 |
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| fungi | i completely agree that puppet 3 is a problem, i think we all do | 22:17 |
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| jeblair | i think a lot of puppet3 stuff is somewhat forward compatible | 22:19 |
| jeblair | much more so than 2->3 | 22:19 |
| jeblair | puppet 3 is more restrictive than 4, but writing puppet 3 from scratch may not be accumulating too much debt. | 22:20 |
| dmsimard | hmm, I think when we upgraded from puppet 3 to 4 in puppet-openstack, a lot of the changes had to do with ordering of resources and... tip of my tongue... something around variable types | 22:20 |
| clarkb | ok back from long lunch | 22:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: welcome back - we're discussing puppet versions | 22:20 |
| clarkb | oh maybe I'll go back to lunch >_> | 22:21 |
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| dmsimard | clarkb: I did add a topic for next week though, regarding writing new puppet things in general | 22:21 |
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| fungi | dmsimard: i think from that we ended up with some additional linting that validates parameter ordering and use of vague null types, so we may not be far off | 22:24 |
| clarkb | re 3 v 4 yes aiui that transition is much nicer then 2 to 3 | 22:25 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: anyway, i appreciate and sympathize with your feelings. i'm hoping that you'll agree that overall the ability to maintain the system coherently as a team is more important than the immediate discomfort that entails. if we hadn't done that so far, we would have systems split across chef, salt, puppet2, puppet3, puppet4, and ansible. i am less interested in what we run, only that it be one thing. hopefully soon it will ... | 22:25 |
| jeblair | ... either all be puppet 4 or ansible. :) | 22:25 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair: +1 | 22:25 |
| pabelanger | I'm about to head out for some food, but would love a final +3 on https://review.openstack.org/528382/ | 22:26 |
| pabelanger | I can work on bringing up kdc04.o.o later this evening | 22:27 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: did the last logstash workers get done? | 22:27 |
| clarkb | (I'd like to send out a summary email shortly so going to followup on what things got updated) | 22:27 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: I did one yesterday, I'll do the other two after dinner | 22:27 |
| clarkb | ok | 22:27 |
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| dmsimard | turns out there's other gotchas preventing even a limited automation | 22:27 |
| pabelanger | keep in mind, we did run puppet 4 for a bit, when we did puppet on DIBs. That was on fedora, so the majority of our modules work I'd say on puppet 4 | 22:27 |
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| dmsimard | jeblair: yeah don't get me wrong, I'll settle with the consensus here -- I just want to point out we're rolling out a significant amount of new things and we're investing in an outdated technology which tends to lead to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost | 22:29 |
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| dmsimard | so if anything, perhaps it'll make us priorize whatever path we choose -- whether that's puppet 4 or ansible | 22:30 |
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| clarkb | the only place it seems to really hurt is when using external dependencies. Other than that are there specific concerns? familiarity with the tool or ? | 22:31 |
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| jeblair | dmsimard: yes, it's important to keep an eye on that, however, i don't think this is a sunk cost, especially considering the plan to move to puppet4 -- that upgrade is a marginal cost which is dwarfed by the cost of maintaining multiple systems. | 22:31 |
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| jeblair | dmsimard: if we were to adopt a plan to migrate to ansible, then i would agree that picemeal migration is warranted -- because then we can contain the cost of maintaining multiple systems to the migration period | 22:32 |
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| jeblair | fungi: so if we stick with theforeman, we'd just build our own named.conf and include all the zone info in it? | 22:41 |
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| dmsimard | going to eat and I'll come back to wrap up the two last logstash-workers later, have a nice weekend everyone | 22:42 |
| fungi | well, zone info could go in named.conf.local or something and we could stick an include directive in the main config if we want | 22:42 |
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| jeblair | yeah, though that's just more stuff for us to manually manage :| | 22:42 |
| fungi | very true | 22:43 |
| clarkb | is the problem configuring a dns server? | 22:43 |
| jeblair | s/manually manage/write our own puppet to manage/ | 22:43 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yes, the problem is finding a puppet module which allows us to configure the options needed to run a server with dnssec | 22:43 |
| clarkb | ah | 22:43 |
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| fungi | yeah, when it boils down to it there's not a ton of fancy to bind other than stanzas in its config and calls to its rpc socket | 22:44 |
| jeblair | yep. it's such a simple problem that we have 20 not-quite-sufficient modules to choose from | 22:44 |
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| fungi | well, the complex part being there are a bazillion possible options you could choose to configure | 22:45 |
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| fungi | so if a puppet module wants to parameterize them all, first you must invent the universe | 22:46 |
| clarkb | are all of the v3 zuul/nodepool servers xenial at this point? (I guess they were before we started the sprint due to python requirements? | 22:46 |
| fungi | afaik | 22:46 |
| mordred | clarkb: did the nodepool servers get rebuilt? I know that was on Shrews' list at one point | 22:46 |
| jeblair | the builders are xenial -- though i think they are running master and not v3. | 22:47 |
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| jeblair | i *think* that's the only part that's "lagging" | 22:47 |
| clarkb | ya I just checked them all 4 ndoepool servers are xenial | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Remove bower and add yarn support https://review.openstack.org/528436 | 22:56 |
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| dmsimard | clarkb: you could probably get a count with something like ansible -i inventory all -m setup -a "filter=os_distribution" | 23:11 |
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| dmsimard | Filter might not be quite right but something along those lines (on phone) | 23:12 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: ya though I'd still have to filter between before and this week (can check openstack api for that) | 23:12 |
| clarkb | I think I got the info right though | 23:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Remove use strict https://review.openstack.org/528437 | 23:19 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: does the puppet-exim change need to go in before the puppet-mailman change? | 23:46 |
| clarkb | oh reading comit message seems like no | 23:46 |
| clarkb | its the system-config change that ties it all together with the deps, got it | 23:48 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: correct | 23:49 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I've not approved the exim change though it looks fine to me, simply because its lateish on friday and its larissa's birthday so once I stop working tonight I'm actually stopping work :) | 23:50 |
| clarkb | feel free to approve if you will be around | 23:50 |
| jeblair | clarkb: thanks; i may wait on that till next week too :) | 23:50 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: what does 'require_files' => '${lookup{${lc::$domain}}lsearch{/etc/mailman/sites}}/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck' do? | 23:55 |
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| clarkb | I guess what is $lc? | 23:56 |
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| clarkb | oh wait that is exim not puppet | 23:57 |
| clarkb | now it makes much more sense | 23:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-kerberos master: Add systemd support for krb5-kpropd https://review.openstack.org/528382 | 23:59 |
| jeblair | lowercase | 23:59 |
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