Saturday, 2017-12-16

clarkbjeblair: I thought it was some puppet magic, but its exim magic to find the domain/lists/listname on disk00:01
jeblairlookup the lowercase version of the domain in the file /etc/mailman/sites, use that as the start of a path, appending /lists/, then the lowercase of the part before the @ sign, then config.pck, and make sure that file is on disk00:01
jeblairso the ultimate path that's looking for is, eg, /srv/mailman/openstack/lists/openstack-dev.pck00:02
jeblairthe lookup gets 'openstack'.00:02
jeblairor rather, gets /srv/mailman/openstack00:02
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clarkbit doens't end with lists/openstack-dev/config.pck?00:03
jeblairthe /etc/mailman/sites file contains:00:03
jeblairlists.openstack.org: /srv/mailman/openstack00:03
jeblairclarkb: er yes, that.  :)00:03
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clarkbjeblair: and the noaliasmailman was removed because it is made redudnant by the multisite stuff?00:05
jeblairfungi: thoughts on key algorithm and length?00:05
jeblairclarkb: can you point me at what you're looking at?00:06
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clarkbjeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527499/3/modules/openstack_project/manifests/lists.pp old side of diff, line 36-3700:07
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jeblairclarkb: yeah.  i ended up making a new type (mailman_list) which has its own provider (mailman.rb), so the noaliasmailman provider of the mailman type is no longer needed.00:09
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jeblairthe new provider is based on noaliasmailman though, just with some extra bits to handle the multisite stuff00:10
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jeblairi probably could have avoided the new type, and just made yet another provider for maillist, but at one point i was adding extra arguments, which needs a new type00:10
jeblairi just never undid that.00:10
clarkbgotcha so thats how that glues together (I actually started in mailman.rb then decided I needed more context and ended up in systemc-config)00:10
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jeblairclarkb: yeah, now that you mention it, system-config -> mailman is probably the way to read it.00:11
jeblairclarkb: i wanted to add "site => openstack" to the mailman_list type, but i couldn't figure out how to look up an internal reference to another puppet resource in ruby00:12
jeblair(and due to terminology overload, that sort of thing is impossible to google)00:13
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jeblairthe resource name needs a site component anyway though, since it needs to be unique, so the @ thing works out i guess :)00:13
clarkbjeblair: ya I think that ended up being quite readable00:14
clarkbshould amke it easy for people to undersatnd what is what in there when we are cohabitating all these things00:14
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clarkbyour init script even check that the list exists before running the daemon00:15
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clarkbjeblair: and it looks like the way apache is configured you will have lists.openstack.org lists.zuul-ci.org etc and the ServerName gets you the right stuff00:18
clarkbah ya then the setenv sets the path for that name00:19
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add an authoritative hidden master  https://review.openstack.org/52843800:22
jeblairclarkb: yep.  we'll need to set that env var manually if we run any mailman commands on the command line.  but that's all there is to it00:23
jeblairfungi, dmsimard: ^ there's a checkpoint of my progress setting up bind00:23
jeblairoh forgot something00:23
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add an authoritative hidden master  https://review.openstack.org/52843800:24
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add an authoritative hidden master  https://review.openstack.org/52843800:25
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clarkbjeblair: mm_cfg_multihost.py.erb is slightly mind bending but I think I get it00:27
clarkbbasically the config is global so you use mailman site dir to effectively chdir an instance of mailman00:28
clarkband that file is global config to do that via the loading of non global config00:28
jeblairclarkb: yep.  i would also agree with mind-bending.00:28
clarkbjeblair: left some comments on the puppet-mailman change but nothing worth a -1. Looks good once you spend half an hour undersatnding what is going on :)00:29
clarkbalso commented on the system-config change00:29
jeblairi think this approach is solid.  however, ftr, i'm still okay with "scrap it and run multiple servers".  or "use built-in multisite and avoid having lists with the same name".  :)00:29
jeblairi'm not going to be upset if we decide this is too weird.00:29
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clarkbjeblair: its just sufficiently weird that you have to spend a little time undersatnding it, but I think given a half an hour the pieces should click00:30
clarkb(they seem to have for me at least)00:30
clarkband really half an hour now is likely lots of time saved over run multiple servers00:30
jeblairi'm happy to write some prose for the system-config docs too00:31
clarkband this makes things sufficiently less confusing for users I'm willing to go with it over the collapsed server00:31
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clarkb(considering how painful upgrades were on lists.o.o in the past (inplace is different) I'm really hoping to not run many of them)00:32
clarkb(and we're likely to run into network problems like fungi points out if we try to smtp with containers)00:32
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clarkbjeblair: some comments on the adns change00:39
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clarkband I think thats the set of chagnes that needed review for project hosting00:40
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fungijeblair: key algorithm and length for dnssec? i used `dnssec-keygen -a RSASHA256 -b 2048 -3 ...` last time i did any, but it's been a while00:51
fungiprobably still plenty strong but we can bump those up if people are concerned00:52
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jeblairfungi: those seem sufficient to me01:01
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fungiespecially if we're automating unattended rotation, don't want to risk insufficient entropy on new key generation01:12
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pabelangerokay, kdc04.o.o is online01:20
pabelangerupdating dns srv records01:20
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pabelangerI'll wait until later before I start turning down kdc0201:20
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Don't run npm shrinkwrap if using yarn  https://review.openstack.org/52844001:26
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Don't run npm shrinkwrap if using yarn  https://review.openstack.org/52844001:26
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pabelangerokay, server up, but run-kprop.sh fails, kdc04.o.o isn't found in database01:31
pabelangerI'll read up on that this weekend too, but suspect some kerberos commands will need to be run01:32
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Remove bower and add yarn support  https://review.openstack.org/52843601:38
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Adding jobs to new ec2api-tempest-plugin  https://review.openstack.org/52685401:41
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add new repo for Telemetry tempest plugin  https://review.openstack.org/52686302:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/52844406:06
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AJaegerjeblair: the reconfigure did not happen - the two newest repos are not known to zuul yet ;(06:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/52844406:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Don't run npm shrinkwrap if using yarn  https://review.openstack.org/52844009:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: encrypt_secret: remove the trailing '/' when building url  https://review.openstack.org/50627111:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Remove unused function validate_conf  https://review.openstack.org/52810511:32
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Make AFS marker roles honor sphinx variables  https://review.openstack.org/52573514:01
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Migrate special docs jobs to build-openstack-sphinx-docs  https://review.openstack.org/52573614:01
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Half-Revert "Revert "Add ensure-reno and ensure-babel roles""  https://review.openstack.org/52155814:31
AJaegermordred1, is that really you, mordred?14:32
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AJaegermordred1: updated the change to address ianw's comment and removed now obsolete part ^ I'd like to move forward with all these sphinx/doc/releasenotes work ^14:32
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Use ensure-babel to make sure babel is installed  https://review.openstack.org/52110514:43
AJaegermordred1: this one should be fine as well, could you review these two together, please? ^14:43
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve ensure-reno  https://review.openstack.org/52847714:45
AJaegerianw, mordred1, and that's ianw's review comment from 521558 changed elsewhere as well ^14:46
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Remove bower and add yarn support  https://review.openstack.org/52843614:54
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Migrate js-draft job to be zuul v3 native  https://review.openstack.org/52848114:54
mordred1AJaeger: morning14:54
mordred1oh - why am I mordred1 ?14:54
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AJaegermorning, mordred the one and only one ;)14:56
mordredAJaeger: should we go ahead and land the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521145 too?14:56
AJaegermordred: you made it WIP to handle a corner case - did we fix that one?14:57
mordredAJaeger: yes - that was the python version one14:57
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AJaegermordred: ah!14:58
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AJaegerso, let's ask for some reviews of 521145  - in case any infra-root or config-core is around...14:58
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mordredAJaeger: ++14:59
mordredAJaeger: I think it will be very nice to be done with this set of patches :)15:00
AJaegerinfra-root, And also (not directly related), please review https://review.openstack.org/521558  https://review.openstack.org/521105   https://review.openstack.org/52847715:00
AJaegermordred: that would be a great christmas present ;)15:00
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AJaegermordred: I'm documenting at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/merge-updated-pti-topic on top what we want to merge15:04
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove legacy draft job from storyboard-webclient  https://review.openstack.org/52848215:05
mordredAJaeger: awesome15:05
AJaegermordred: trying to get pieces together...15:05
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Migrate js-draft job to be zuul v3 native  https://review.openstack.org/52848115:08
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Remove bower and add yarn support  https://review.openstack.org/52843615:08
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AJaegermordred: I rechecked our test jobs - all looks fine currently15:13
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use python3 for docs publication  https://review.openstack.org/52571815:16
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Use the new sphinx PTI for special publish jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52155715:19
AJaegermordred: using sphinx_python instead of use_python3 ^15:19
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Switch remaining docs publications jobs to sphinx  https://review.openstack.org/52573415:20
AJaegermordred: hope it's all good now - and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/merge-updated-pti-topic is updated15:21
AJaegerinfra-root, reviews of the items at top of etherpad very welcome15:21
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AJaegertobiash: any special reason you removed your +W from 521558 ? Otherwise I'll +W now...15:23
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add job for publishing built javascript content  https://review.openstack.org/52848315:23
tobiashAJaeger: I've set it then I realized that mordred is the change owner and thus I violated the two core +2 rule15:24
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove storyboard webclient publication jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52848415:25
AJaegertobiash: ok, thanks15:25
AJaegermordred: an unrelated change - could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528369/ for translations, please?15:28
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mordredAJaeger: left a +2 but not a +A and a comment- if you want to fix that patch, cool, if you want to followup, also cool15:44
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: translations: Check for translation-source first  https://review.openstack.org/52836915:45
AJaegermordred: fixed and self-approved based on the two +2s15:46
AJaegerthanks15:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Half-Revert "Revert "Add ensure-reno and ensure-babel roles""  https://review.openstack.org/52155815:55
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Fetch built web content in javascript jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52848616:10
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AJaegermordred: https://review.openstack.org/522315 has a failing sphinx job - needs neutron installed ;(16:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: translations: Check for translation-source first  https://review.openstack.org/52836916:17
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use yarn and webpack to manage zuul-web javascdript  https://review.openstack.org/48753816:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add babel transpiling enabling use of ES6 features  https://review.openstack.org/52829516:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add StandardJS linting and analysis  https://review.openstack.org/52829616:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix source_url handling for jobs view  https://review.openstack.org/52837316:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix StandardJS warnings and turn them to errors  https://review.openstack.org/52829716:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target  https://review.openstack.org/52829816:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make bundle of build web content  https://review.openstack.org/52837416:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Remove use strict  https://review.openstack.org/52843716:25
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use yarn and webpack to manage zuul-web javascdript  https://review.openstack.org/48753816:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add babel transpiling enabling use of ES6 features  https://review.openstack.org/52829516:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add StandardJS linting and analysis  https://review.openstack.org/52829616:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix source_url handling for jobs view  https://review.openstack.org/52837316:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix StandardJS warnings and turn them to errors  https://review.openstack.org/52829716:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add bundle analysis to the lint target  https://review.openstack.org/52829816:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make bundle of build web content  https://review.openstack.org/52837416:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Remove use strict  https://review.openstack.org/52843716:31
mordredAJaeger: boo - looking16:31
mordredAJaeger: that's very strange - the tox_install.sh HAS an install_project neutron16:32
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mordredAJaeger: are we sure that's the issue? "ImportError: cannot import name driver_api" -16:34
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mordredAJaeger: that's especially strange16:38
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use yarn and webpack to manage zuul-web javascdript  https://review.openstack.org/48753817:13
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use yarn and webpack to manage zuul-web javascript  https://review.openstack.org/48753817:13
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AJaegermordred: I'm not sure, didn't dig deeper ;(17:49
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AJaegermordred: the old tox_install sets NEUTRON_BRANCH=mitaka-eol - and installs neutron from there. While updated job installs from master17:53
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* AJaeger updates17:54
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AJaegermordred: this is ugly ;(18:03
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AJaegermordred: pushed an update, let's see whether that works...18:09
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Fetch built web content in javascript jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52848618:26
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Update README for neutron-horizon-hack  https://review.openstack.org/52849218:36
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Update README for neutron-horizon-hack  https://review.openstack.org/52849218:36
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AJaegermordred: https://review.openstack.org/522315  has failing py35 that worked before, otherwise looks good - and especially docs still build ;)19:26
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Move irc meetings tox job in-tree  https://review.openstack.org/52849821:02
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Move irc meetings tox job in-tree  https://review.openstack.org/52849821:04
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove migrated irc-meetings jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52850021:06
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove legacy-irc-meetings-tox-ical  https://review.openstack.org/52850121:06
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AJaegertonyb: any idea why pep8 fails on  https://review.openstack.org/528498 ? That looks completely unrelated21:17
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Use openstack-python-jobs for tacker-horizon  https://review.openstack.org/52850321:26
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tonybAJaeger: No idea I have the review open I'll loo kat it on Monday23:22
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