Friday, 2014-09-26

devanandawas coding. gonna be in another meeting in ~3000:00
devanandalets see if i cna make some headway on the hash rings now00:00
NobodyCamoh side note: monday after meeting I have to go offline and take the house to the folks making the tow bar for the car :)00:01
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openstackgerritYuiko Takada proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add unit tests for "ironic node-show" shell cmd  https://review.openstack.org/12000100:13
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openstackgerritYuiko Takada proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add unit tests for "ironic node-create" shell cmd  https://review.openstack.org/12031200:24
openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Adding support for decommissioning  https://review.openstack.org/10437900:24
openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add versioning to Agent decommission  https://review.openstack.org/10685900:28
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add HashRingManager to wrap hash ring singleton  https://review.openstack.org/12095101:40
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rlooHaomeng: hi. what's the difference between bugs 1374227 & 1374226?02:25
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rlooHaomeng: also, isn't that what lucas fixed earlier today?02:26
rlooHaomeng: https://review.openstack.org/124090. Or did it break again after that patch?02:26
Haomengrloo: yes, I see we still have difference with latest ironic.conf.sample02:27
Haomengrloo: I understand lucus's patch fix the issue, but not sure why jekins not picking the latest sample file02:28
rlooHaomeng: I saw one or more patches being merged recently.02:28
Haomengrloo: yes, let me check the latest keystoneclient options02:29
rlooHaomeng: eg https://review.openstack.org/122743. So I thought things were fixed.02:29
Haomengrloo: yes, maybe keystoneclient is changed again02:29
Haomengrloo: let me check02:29
rlooHaomeng: thx for looking into it. I have to leave. But... don't the patches have to rebase first, to get the updated .sample?02:30
Haomengrloo: yes, good point02:31
Haomengrloo: I understand jekins will get latest sample and compare the one which is generated with scripts02:32
rlooHaomeng: but if they have to rebase, then how did we get patches merged recently. could be some machines haven't yet gotten the new keystoneclient or whatever package yet.02:32
rlooHaomeng: sorry to leave you with this. Thanks!02:32
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Haomengrloo: welcome:)02:32
Haomenglet me check:) good night:)02:32
Haomengso I have the patch try to remove sample conf https://review.openstack.org/106493, to avoid such conflicts again and again:)02:34
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raminenidevananda : hi02:49
raminenidevananda : want to discuss regarding the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/136718202:49
Haomengramineni: I understand deva is in dream now:)02:51
ramineniHomeng: :) thought so , still wanted to check , by chance he is available :P02:52
Haomengramineni: yes:)02:53
ramineniHomeng: not sure about his timings though02:53
Haomengramineni: :)02:54
Haomengramineni: np02:54
ramineniHaomeng: any idea, still there is chance to fix bugs for juno release?02:55
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Haomengramineni: we have bug list - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic if it is required to fix in juno, we can see the target with high/critical prioity or juno-rc1 milestone02:57
ramineniHaomeng: ok , thanks02:59
Haomengramineni: welcome:)02:59
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/12425803:54
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openstackgerritYuiko Takada proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add "ironic node-set-power-state" cmd unit test  https://review.openstack.org/12426704:45
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/12334206:11
openstackgerritMotohiro 'Yuanying' Otsuka proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Remove unused command in tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/12430306:26
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Remove untranslated PO files  https://review.openstack.org/12414106:32
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AJaegerdevananda: could you abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123342/ now, please?08:24
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HaomengAJaeger: done:)08:29
HaomengAJaeger: but if it is abandoned, we can not get more patch for this, right?08:30
HaomengAJaeger: could we vote -2?08:31
AJaegerHaomeng: if it's abandoned, a new patch will be proposed whenever new files are there...08:33
HaomengAJaeger: ok:)08:33
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AJaegerHaomeng: I'll keep an eye on the job so that it does the right thing ;)08:33
HaomengAJaeger: thank you:)08:33
HaomengAJaeger: :)08:33
AJaegeryou're welcome, Haomeng08:33
HaomengAJaeger: :)08:33
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rameshg87lucasagomes, hi08:44
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AJaegerHaomeng: I just found one bug in the infra scripts that I introduced, so if there's a patch again tomorrow, I'll -1 it until infra merges my fix...08:47
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HaomengAJaeger: dont worry, thanks for the info:)08:47
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lucasagomesrameshg87, hi there08:58
rameshg87lucasagomes, had a question on documentation08:58
rameshg87lucasagomes, where are we documenting how to build ramdisk for ironic deployment ? i am not able to find them in ironic source tree.08:59
rameshg87lucasagomes, or are there plans for doing it ?08:59
lucasagomesrameshg87, oh, that's a good q... I think it's because devstack already build it for us08:59
lucasagomeswe def should have a link to the diskimage-builder tool08:59
lucasagomeshttps://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder09:00
rameshg87lucasagomes, yeah. and how to build it too. i guess required for ipa also.09:00
lucasagomesrameshg87, +1!!09:00
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lucasagomesyeah indeed there's none09:01
rameshg87lucasagomes, yeah :)09:01
rameshg87lucasagomes, i think it might fit in here, right ? https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/doc/source/deploy/install-guide.rst#setup-the-drivers-for-bare-metal-service09:02
lucasagomesyeah sounds like a good place indeed09:04
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rameshg87lucasagomes, can we have a place to document all about ilo drivers ? a single page i mean09:13
lucasagomesrameshg87, I don't see why not, I mean documentation is always good09:14
lucasagomesnow, would it make sense to have a wiki about it?09:14
rameshg87lucasagomes, in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki ?09:14
lucasagomesit's easier to update09:14
lucasagomesrameshg87, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic09:15
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rameshg87lucasagomes, okay. minimum information on ironic source tree with pointers to wiki, right ?09:15
lucasagomesrameshg87, sure09:15
rameshg87lucasagomes, thanks ..09:16
lucasagomesyw09:16
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rameshg87lucasagomes, can i have a link in the main page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic pointing to a new page dedicated to ilo driver(s) ?09:23
lucasagomesrameshg87, yup, maybe we can start a section about drivers?09:24
lucasagomesso we can have iLO, drac etc...09:24
* lucasagomes also thinks that the migration page from nova bm should be on that main page09:24
lucasagomeswill include09:24
rameshg87lucasagomes, we have a page for drivers already https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/Drivers09:25
lucasagomesrameshg87, oh I see09:25
rameshg87lucasagomes, yeah, but i don't know why it's documented by power/deploy interfaces rather than an 'actual' driver09:27
rameshg87lucasagomes, may be i can start a section third party drivers here09:28
lucasagomesrameshg87, yup yeah feel free to edit it :)09:29
lucasagomesit's a wiki, so it's all good09:29
rameshg87lucasagomes, :)09:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Remove unneeded context initialization in tests  https://review.openstack.org/12407310:16
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openstackgerritAlberto Planas proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Adds openSUSE support for developer documentation  https://review.openstack.org/12439513:02
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openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Use DbTestCase as test base when context needed  https://review.openstack.org/12440013:45
openstackgerritAlberto Planas proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Adds openSUSE support for developer documentation  https://review.openstack.org/12439513:52
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NobodyCamgood morning Ironic... TGIF!14:14
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Remove unused command in tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/12430314:14
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add unit tests for "ironic node-create" shell cmd  https://review.openstack.org/12031214:14
lucasagomesNobodyCam, morning!14:15
NobodyCammorning lucasagomes14:17
ShrewsNobodyCam: tgif indeed14:23
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NobodyCammorning Shrews :) !!!14:23
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NobodyCamhummm 15five?14:32
lucasagomesShrews, morning :)14:58
lucasagomes15five?14:58
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NobodyCamslow morning15:18
NobodyCamits a new corp thing15:19
Shrewsmore a "monty" thing than a "corp" thing15:20
NobodyCamlol15:20
NobodyCamShrews: ture that15:20
Shrewsi mean, it's not internal15:20
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Add a section for RPC API impact  https://review.openstack.org/10322515:55
Shrewsbefore we open kilo for new specs, we should merge that ^^^15:56
Shrewsdevananda: since we aren't accepting any more specs for juno, can we go ahead and merge that?15:58
NobodyCamShrews: will we need to adjust this for every cycle? (files = ['specs/template.rst'] + glob.glob('specs/kilo/*'))16:02
ShrewsNobodyCam: yeah. i don't see a way around that16:02
Shrewsonce a spec is accepted, what's the point of testing it anymore?  :)16:03
NobodyCamwhat if we get all then exclude J16:03
devanandamorning, all16:03
NobodyCammorning devananda16:03
ShrewsNobodyCam: then you'd have to exclude J *and* K when L comes about. Seems easier to just whitelist instead of blacklist, no?16:04
devanandasome projects have created an "attic" of source16:04
devanandaof sorts16:04
devanandafor specs that were meregd but not completed16:04
devanandaShrews: ++16:04
Shrewsah, that's a different beast i hadn't considered16:04
devanandawe actually completed every spec we merged16:05
devanandawhich is pretty awesome16:05
lucasagomesdevananda, morning16:05
JayFwe even completed ~half dozen that aren't even approved yet ;)16:05
NobodyCamwe have awesome Folk working in Ironic and Ironic releated projects16:05
devanandai poked at the hash ring things a little yesterday afternoon - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120951/16:06
JayFNobodyCam: just the right number of cooks in the kitchen, eh?16:06
NobodyCam:)16:06
* devananda fixes merge conflict16:08
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add HashRingManager to wrap hash ring singleton  https://review.openstack.org/12095116:10
devanandaso, really, we shouldn't release without the hash ring thing fixed ...16:10
devanandai'm going to hack on that during this flight some more16:10
devanandaanyone else been poking at it lately / made any progress? lucasagomes ? Shrews ?16:11
lucasagomesdevananda, the rebalancing part of it? or take over?16:11
devanandalucasagomes: all of it. they're interdependent16:12
lucasagomesI haven't played much with the rebalancing part16:12
devanandafixing rebalancign w/o take over doesn't solve the "i cant reboot my node!" problem16:12
lucasagomesthe take over I was investigating, but after we talked about the ipxe idea I'm trying to validate it instead16:12
lucasagomesyeah :/16:12
devanandafixing take over w/o fixing rebalancing makes a LOT of take over happen16:12
devanandalucasagomes: so I really like the ipxe solution. really really. but I dont think we can jump to that now()16:13
devanandaand releasing with a massively broken scale-out story is awkward16:13
devananda"awkward" is also really minimizing the problem16:13
lucasagomesdevananda, yup no way to do it now()16:13
lucasagomesyeah, so I haven't poked at it late this week :( I did until tuesday16:14
lucasagomesone idea I had when I was looking into it16:14
lucasagomessome assumptions really, was to only mark the node (create a bound conductor->node) when the node is deployed16:15
lucasagomesand remove it when undeployed16:15
lucasagomeswe don't need to know which conductor is bounded to which node when it's unprovisioned16:15
lucasagomesfrom there we need to create a delta of the hash_ring, every time a conductor joins or leave the cluster16:16
lucasagomeswe need to have the previous hash_ring saved, so we can generate a new one, compare with it, see what drivers were affected16:16
lucasagomesfrom there find the nodes that uses that driver and are deployed16:16
lucasagomescheck if the condutor bounded to that node have changed and if so call take_over()16:17
lucasagomesif not just continue interacting16:17
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lucasagomesbut look, that's very costy16:17
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lucasagomesdevananda, makes sense ^?16:19
devanandalucasagomes: yea16:19
lucasagomesthat sounds like something achievable for this cycle16:19
lucasagomestho it's not a light operator16:19
lucasagomesoperation*16:19
devanandawhat about this:16:19
lucasagomesand if we do also the periodic task to check for the pxe enviroments from time to time and update it, we minimize yet more the problem with take overs16:20
devananda- when node is provisioned, update db record to indicate which conductor did the work (it was mapped there during deploy)16:20
devananda- during periodic task, when conductor refreshes its rings:16:20
devananda-- check for nodes which are a) mapped to that conductor b) deployed c) have db tag != current conductor16:20
devananda- trigger take_over() for that set16:21
devanandano need to calculate delta of hash rings16:21
devanandaand no need to walk the whole list of nodes16:21
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devanandaand no action explicitly on join/leave16:21
devanandaso eg. a simple restart of the conductor won't trigger sudden migrations16:22
lucasagomesdevananda, that's simpler indeed, but there's a gap (which might be fine) that the node can't be rebooted until the periodic task run16:22
devanandayep16:22
devanandai'm OK with that16:22
devanandaeventually-consistent16:22
lucasagomesright16:22
lucasagomesyeah16:22
devanandaif a reboot fails, the user should be able to retry the reboot16:22
devananda(though that's a separate problem)16:22
lucasagomeswell, if u want I can put a patch up for that ^ tomorrow16:22
devanandasmall-window is better than no-solution16:22
devanandaI'm gonna try to do it today16:22
lucasagomesI've been playing with that part of the code anyway, so I think I'm familiar16:22
devanandacool16:23
lucasagomesdevananda, alright, if you don't finish I may take ur patch tomorrow16:23
lucasagomesand help with it16:23
devanandaI'll post what ever I have tonight. feel free to clobber / build on it16:23
lucasagomesdevananda, deal16:23
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devanandahttps://review.openstack.org/120951 is the start, i think16:23
devanandathat makes it easier to interact with the HashRign singleton16:23
lucasagomesyeah, adn there's one adding the condutor_id db field to the nodes too16:24
devanandayep16:24
lucasagomesu will need that as well16:24
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devanandaupdating etherpad now16:25
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lucasagomescool, for those interested on that ^ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/68IcuXSqzz16:26
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devanandaok - gotta board my flight16:30
devanandaprobably offline most of the day, but will be hacking on this16:30
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NobodyCamhave a good flight back home devananda16:32
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lucasagomesdevananda, safe flight16:59
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lucasagomesaight folks, have a good night!17:07
NobodyCamhave a good weekend lucasagomes17:07
lucasagomesNobodyCam, oh, u too!17:07
lucasagomesenjoy it17:07
NobodyCam:)17:08
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jrollmorning ironic :)17:20
NobodyCamgoood morning and happy friday jroll17:21
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Testing sideways migration (Do not merge)  https://review.openstack.org/12447417:21
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NobodyCambrb quick walkies17:24
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jrollhappy friday indeed17:27
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix hash ring stability  https://review.openstack.org/11893218:51
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add "active" tracking to nodes and conductors  https://review.openstack.org/12449318:51
devanandastill need to tie that into a periodic task18:52
devanandabut I think that'll be it18:52
devanandaif anyone wants to poke at ^, it needs an alembic migration added to the last patch18:53
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NobodyCamoh nice: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124072 landed19:18
NobodyCamlucas-dinner: want to remove your -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12406119:21
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openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Adding support for decommissioning  https://review.openstack.org/10437919:53
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openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add versioning to Agent decommission  https://review.openstack.org/10685920:07
NobodyCamyuriyz: just checking on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103105 do you think you'll have some time for that one?20:25
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add "active" tracking to nodes and conductors  https://review.openstack.org/12449320:28
Shrewsdevananda: ^^^^ added the alembic migration for you20:28
NobodyCamShrews: nice :)20:30
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* Shrews had to reference his new ironic-dbsync documentation for that20:31
NobodyCamsweet it works!20:33
ShrewsNobodyCam: i am now going to "like" every one of your status items now that i know how much you enjoy that20:33
NobodyCamlol gah hehehehe20:33
* Shrews notes that is also one of the reasons he left FB20:34
NobodyCamoh man you can spend all day replyig to likes...20:35
* NobodyCam pop out of a somke... brb20:37
NobodyCam*pops even20:37
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NobodyCamlol20:43
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pensuHi all, is devstack-ironic broken today or something? I have tried twice and it just gives me error...21:24
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NobodyCamhey hey pensu not that I have heard  .... what the error your getting21:28
pensuHowdy NobodyCam, How are you? Two different errors, first some issues my with mysql, then I tried to make it work again, now it says cinder api did not start....21:30
pensuNobodyCam: 2014-09-26 21:19:39.929 | /opt/stack/devstack/lib/cinder:452:die21:30
pensu2014-09-26 21:19:39.949 | [ERROR] /opt/stack/devstack/lib/cinder:452 c-api did not start21:30
pensu2014-09-26 21:19:40.958 | Error on exit21:30
pensu2014-09-26 21:19:41.026 | df: '/run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied21:30
NobodyCamhumm thats nother error, looks like user permissions21:31
pensuNobodyCam: Yeah, not sure if something is changed. Was working fine till yesterday!21:32
NobodyCamis there any more detail on the cinder screen?21:36
NobodyCamalso you may want ot give http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/77453/why-cannot-find-read-run-user-1000-gvfs-even-though-it-is-running-as-root a quick read21:38
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pensuno actually, nothing useful, it just tries to start c-api 2-3 times and prints out the permission denied error, I will have a look at that link....thanks...:)21:40
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NobodyCamofc course21:46
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NobodyCambrb22:18
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NobodyCamok for the 4 o'clock friday topic, owuld we like our unit test DAMP or DRY?23:13
jrollNobodyCam: I like them JFDI23:14
NobodyCamlol I just found myself making a thesee tests are all the same comment, and that got me thinking23:16
jrollhaha23:16
jrollyeah, DRY them up if it doesn't make them confusing23:16
NobodyCam++ the block I comment on could be cleaned up23:18
NobodyCambut do we really care?23:18
jrollI don't care enough to -1 a review for it, generally23:18
jrollwhat are you looking at?23:18
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NobodyCam23:26
NobodyCamjroll: it started here : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124162 (with Jay pipes comment) which lead me to find my self writing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124267/1/ironicclient/tests/v1/test_node_shell.py (second comment)23:28
NobodyCamthen I get to really thinking about it I think I more agree with your JFDI way!23:29
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jrollNobodyCam: yeah, I would probably clean that up as a committer23:34
jrollas a reviewer, I'd ask them to do it if they push another rev23:34
NobodyCam:)23:35
NobodyCamI actually think cleaned up would be easier to read too :-p23:35
jrollindeed23:35
jrollthat one is asking for it, I think it depends on the tests23:36
NobodyCamyes!23:36
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