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openstackgerrit | min wang proposed stackforge/octavia: amphora driver interface v0.5 changes https://review.openstack.org/141948 | 00:14 |
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sbalukoff | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-kilo-hackathon-amphora-lifecycle | 00:16 |
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pattabi | i see a check for Member in activate_linked_entities methof (plugin.py) as if obj.status != constants.INACTIVE ==> What does this mean and when the Member status can be INACTIVE ? | 02:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Susanne Balle proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Reordered neutron import statements in files https://review.openstack.org/141970 | 03:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Kill oslo-incubator files https://review.openstack.org/141427 | 05:38 |
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openstackgerrit | yangzhenyu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: A bug of delete error status lb vip. https://review.openstack.org/141738 | 06:45 |
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nmagnezi | hello, I just check lbaas with ipv6 and seems like the haproxy fails to bind the ipv6 vip ip | 08:50 |
nmagnezi | which makes this unusable with ipv6 | 08:50 |
nmagnezi | is this a known issue? | 08:50 |
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openstackgerrit | yangzhenyu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: A bug of delete error status lb vip https://review.openstack.org/141738 | 09:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Cleaned up requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/142063 | 10:54 |
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openstackgerrit | yangzhenyu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: A bug of delete error status lb vip https://review.openstack.org/141738 | 13:05 |
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mestery | blogan dougwig: Is this one done yet? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-api-and-objmodel-improvement | 15:05 |
mestery | I have it marked Kilo-1, just verifying. | 15:05 |
mestery | When you have time ;) | 15:05 |
dougwig | Blogan is chasing down a sqla issue before we can merge | 15:06 |
mestery | dougwig: Will it go in today yet? | 15:07 |
mestery | Kilo-1 is soon | 15:07 |
mestery | tomorrow | 15:07 |
mestery | dougwig: ^^^ | 15:07 |
mestery | blogan: ^^^ | 15:07 |
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dougwig | Ask us in a few hours? :) | 15:08 |
dougwig | My guess is that it's a few days off from being tested fully | 15:08 |
dougwig | It's the first use of the new services alembic chains, which is having some hiccups | 15:10 |
dougwig | mestery: ^ | 15:15 |
mestery | ack | 15:15 |
mestery | thanks dougwig | 15:15 |
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mestery | dougwig: If that's the case, I'll move it to Kilo-2 then. | 15:33 |
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kobis | hey is there an lbaas weekly today? | 16:05 |
sballe | I was wondering taht myself | 16:20 |
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TrevorV | Hey good morning any and all that are around! How goes it? | 16:41 |
TrevorV | Not a single email was shared :P | 16:49 |
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rm_work | uhh, morning | 17:00 |
rm_work | jkoelker: you be around today? today is NETWORKING DAY | 17:00 |
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jorgem | rm_work: hey | 17:01 |
jorgem | rm_work: Can you hear me or no? | 17:02 |
rm_work | i'm in the vidyo | 17:02 |
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jorgem | rm_work: Do you think there is anything we can tackle on our end? It was really hard to hear/see during certain things yesterday | 17:06 |
rm_work | might be better not in the VC room? :P | 17:06 |
jorgem | rm_work: steal me one! | 17:06 |
rm_work | :P | 17:06 |
blogan_ | jorgem: we'll probably break down all of this into tasks/specs later today or tomorrow | 17:07 |
jorgem | don't think so we tried on our laptops directly as well | 17:07 |
blogan_ | johnsom is breaking down the controller spec into each individual component | 17:07 |
rm_work | hmm | 17:07 |
jorgem | blogan: gotcha, anything we can review on our side? | 17:07 |
jorgem | I'm just really looking for something we can do in parallel | 17:07 |
jorgem | :/ | 17:08 |
jorgem | blogan: maybe you can sit next to adam so I can hear you today? | 17:10 |
jorgem | I'm assuming the mic is on his laptop? | 17:10 |
blogan_ | jorgem: we will eventually need to do some tempest tests for octavia, but there's not much to test for that other than the API having correct statuses for hte fake simulated controller | 17:10 |
jkoelker | rm_work: I am | 17:10 |
blogan_ | jorgem: but at least getting the framework setup would be good | 17:10 |
bedis | What's the link for the google hangout chatroom ? | 17:11 |
jorgem | For vidyo ==> Guests: Click the room link to join: https://vc.rackspace.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=XcQsqz9ssEOJcLKez71TsBjBJXg | 17:11 |
blogan_ | bedis: i think we're just using vidyo right now, i dont know the link | 17:11 |
blogan_ | what jorgem said | 17:11 |
jorgem | Not sure who has the google hangout link | 17:11 |
TrevorV | All: Hangout link is availble in the octavia mid-cycle ethernet | 17:12 |
bedis | ok | 17:12 |
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rm_work | jkoelker: ok cool, excellent | 17:14 |
johnsom | jorgem There are some blueprint stubs for the controller parts. I need to update those based on the comments from yesterday. | 17:14 |
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jorgem | kewl | 17:15 |
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sbalukoff | Howdy folks! | 17:15 |
sbalukoff | We're going over front-end network topology | 17:15 |
rm_work | jkoelker: alright we'll need you | 17:16 |
TrevorV | sbalukoff Just buy me a plane ticket and get me a hotel room and I'll do notes from here on out | 17:16 |
sbalukoff | HAHA | 17:17 |
rm_work | heh | 17:17 |
jorgem | rm_work: lol when you type it cancels the audio | 17:17 |
rm_work | working on getting a camera up on the whiteboard | 17:17 |
jorgem | is there a mic on the camera you can switch to? | 17:17 |
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rm_work | it *is* the mic on the camera <_< | 17:17 |
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TrevorV | rm_work its not while you're typing, its just cutting in and out right now | 17:17 |
jorgem | hmmmmmmm | 17:17 |
TrevorV | Are you sure this mic is working as intended? | 17:17 |
rm_work | I can try the mic on the laptop instead | 17:18 |
TrevorV | Sorry it was me typing | 17:18 |
rm_work | lol | 17:18 |
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TrevorV | I forgot to mute... No one said they could hear me when I was talking, so I muted | 17:18 |
rm_work | the whiteboard is on the Hangout camera | 17:18 |
jorgem | ohhhh haha | 17:18 |
TrevorV | Or I didn't mute again I mean | 17:18 |
mwang2 | http://bit.ly/Octavia-Hackathon | 17:19 |
rm_work | jkoelker: you | 17:19 |
jorgem | TrevorV: silly man | 17:19 |
rm_work | *you'll need to tell us if we're putting this up on the board wrong | 17:19 |
mwang2 | can you guys log in google hangout to see the white board | 17:19 |
TrevorV | Jorge and I are the only ones in the hangout linked in the octavia meetup etherpad | 17:20 |
TrevorV | There it goes | 17:20 |
jorgem | I think rm_work is setting up camera for whiteboard | 17:20 |
TrevorV | So I'll probably diagram these up on another draw.io, so if something is unclear, be prepared for questions :D | 17:21 |
rm_work | jkoelker: we neeeeed you | 17:23 |
rm_work | i am flailing here | 17:23 |
jorgem | jkoelker: Do you have the google hangout link? | 17:23 |
jkoelker | i do not | 17:23 |
jkoelker | was grepping the scrollback for the etherpad link | 17:23 |
jkoelker | ;) | 17:23 |
rm_work | ah | 17:23 |
rm_work | good | 17:23 |
rm_work | http://bit.ly/Octavia-Hackathon | 17:23 |
rm_work | hangout | 17:23 |
jorgem | jkoelker: http://bit.ly/Octavia-Hackathon | 17:23 |
jorgem | jkoelker: Also you can join my vidyo room | 17:23 |
TrevorV | jkoelker can't see... lundquist is in the way of our diagram ha ha | 17:24 |
TrevorV | nvmd, he moved :D | 17:25 |
jkoelker | working on trying to vidyo to not crash ;) | 17:25 |
rm_work | jkoelker: the whiteboard is on the Hangout anyway | 17:25 |
rm_work | just joint hat | 17:25 |
rm_work | *join that | 17:25 |
jkoelker | kk | 17:25 |
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TrevorV | Koelker is in the hangout rm_work | 17:26 |
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jwarendt | Notes to be take on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-meetup-notes-12-16-2014 | 17:27 |
TrevorV | rm_work jorge is trying to get your attention verbally | 17:28 |
rm_work | jkoelker: so we're trying to express what networks are where | 17:28 |
jorgem | I don't think you can hear me rm_work | 17:28 |
rm_work | cannot hear anyone | 17:28 |
rm_work | looks like everyone is mic-muted on hangout? | 17:28 |
TrevorV | Yeah, he's talking in vidyo | 17:29 |
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rm_work | jkoelker: you hear us? | 17:30 |
jkoelker | i can | 17:30 |
jkoelker | i'm a big fan of the 3 vifs for the amps | 17:31 |
jkoelker | that way we dont' have to do any sort of ovs trickery or anything on the hypervisors to segment out traffic | 17:31 |
TrevorV | By the way blogan_ I added a question to the notes about life-cycle management that left me confused, could you check that out momentarily? | 17:32 |
jkoelker | i can | 17:33 |
jkoelker | rm_work: ^ | 17:34 |
rm_work | so does it look... right? | 17:34 |
jkoelker | it does | 17:35 |
rm_work | ok | 17:35 |
rm_work | so let me get Dustin back over here | 17:35 |
rm_work | and you can listen to his questions | 17:35 |
rm_work | jkoelker / jorgem: BBG network: http://i.imgur.com/MfqVHO8 | 17:40 |
rm_work | jkoelker: wait, weren't we trying to do isolated networks to member nodes? | 17:42 |
rm_work | from the HAProxy Amphora to the backend node | 17:42 |
jkoelker | as long as its a separate "network" we can go either way | 17:42 |
rm_work | I may have switched Servicenet and Isolated Network in my diagram | 17:42 |
rm_work | can you actually tell which one says Servicenet? :P | 17:43 |
jkoelker | separate network being separate vif in the amp | 17:43 |
jkoelker | yea | 17:43 |
rm_work | what network does the FLIP connect to the Amphora with? | 17:43 |
jkoelker | i see that as 'Servicenet || IsolatedNet' | 17:43 |
rm_work | Servicenet? | 17:43 |
jkoelker | an external network | 17:43 |
jkoelker | ;) | 17:43 |
jkoelker | we for us, we are going to do 1 of two things, either it will be an stt tunnel network isolatednet running ontop of the tunnelnet transit network | 17:44 |
jorgem | rm_work: So are we assuming one "management network (hidden from customer)"? Are there security concerns with that? | 17:44 |
jkoelker | or it will be true publicnet trucnked down to the hypervisor and the hypervisor will advirtise the routes up | 17:44 |
rm_work | I don't think so | 17:44 |
rm_work | that's what I remember from our discussion with Koelker last time | 17:44 |
jorgem | rm_work: so ONE mgmt network per customer? per lb? | 17:45 |
rm_work | we don't want each Amphora to have a public IP though, right? | 17:45 |
jorgem | correct | 17:45 |
rm_work | jorgem: per DC | 17:45 |
jorgem | we use FLIP for that | 17:45 |
jkoelker | correct | 17:45 |
rm_work | one management network per DC | 17:45 |
rm_work | it's a provider level network (like Servicenet), but just for us | 17:45 |
rm_work | can we get 6666666666? :P | 17:45 |
jorgem | rm_work: hmm so no security concerns with one network? jkoelker? | 17:46 |
jkoelker | nope, unless tenants will have access to the amps | 17:46 |
jorgem | gotcha | 17:46 |
rm_work | it's really our only option IIRC, since none of the other options scale well | 17:46 |
rm_work | yeah, no tenant access to amps, so should be fine | 17:46 |
jkoelker | we can restrict it out in ovs so it can only reach the controllers | 17:46 |
jorgem | would that be compliant for financial sites? or do they require complete isolation? | 17:47 |
jorgem | I know that's one reason certain customer don't use CLB 1.0 | 17:47 |
jorgem | even though the hypervisor doesn't allow packet sniffing | 17:48 |
jorgem | jkoelker: ^^ | 17:48 |
jkoelker | the traffic will be isolated through haproxy's config | 17:48 |
jkoelker | so if it only allows taking trafic from the external net and then emiting via the private network | 17:49 |
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jorgem | k | 17:49 |
jkoelker | then externally there isn't a way to hop onto the management | 17:49 |
jkoelker | i think the issue with CLB 1.0 is that it uses servicenet wich is shared on the backside of the LB | 17:49 |
jorgem | correct | 17:50 |
jorgem | just making sure, thx | 17:50 |
jkoelker | totes | 17:50 |
rm_work | can jkoelker hear the things i'm agreeing with | 17:50 |
jkoelker | i kinda can | 17:51 |
jkoelker | its pretty choppy | 17:51 |
jkoelker | havn't heard anything that is incorrect so far | 17:52 |
rm_work | k | 17:52 |
TrevorV | I just love starting a diagram https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwuszeFIBGUsTjhCX25oOWdnSjA/view?usp=sharing and then you guys just erase it | 17:53 |
TrevorV | :( | 17:53 |
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rm_work | lol | 17:53 |
rm_work | this one is better | 17:54 |
rm_work | apparently | 17:54 |
rm_work | jkoelker: new diagram, more standard networking notation | 17:55 |
rm_work | look correct? | 17:55 |
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rm_mobile | http://www.imgur.com/MfqVHO8.jpeg | 17:56 |
rm_work | ^^ updated | 17:56 |
TrevorV | Wow, that diagram just changed ridiculously | 17:57 |
rm_work | yes | 17:57 |
jkoelker | rm_work: can you take a pick of what's on the right side of the hangout board? | 17:57 |
jorgem | lol | 17:57 |
jorgem | its the same | 17:57 |
jkoelker | i can't make it out, but lines and boxes look right-ish | 17:58 |
jkoelker | ;) | 17:58 |
jkoelker | ah | 17:58 |
rm_work | jkoelker: ^^ just linked | 17:58 |
rm_work | :P | 17:58 |
rm_work | wait | 17:58 |
rm_work | no that is not right | 17:58 |
rm_work | ffff phone | 17:59 |
jkoelker | ;) | 17:59 |
jorgem | rm_work: Can we get pics for all three please? | 18:00 |
rm_work | working on it | 18:00 |
jorgem | rm_work: when you get a chance. I'm going to go grab some food truck action ;) | 18:00 |
rm_work | phone crapping out on imgur share | 18:00 |
jorgem | email is fine too | 18:00 |
TrevorV | rm_mobile rm_work I'm making the diagram shortly | 18:02 |
TrevorV | Via the link I sent earlier | 18:02 |
TrevorV | If you could get pictures of the diagrams from Bluebox and HP as well, I'll make those as well | 18:02 |
TrevorV | Maybe I can help identify the differences | 18:02 |
rm_work | http://i.imgur.com/KZqjJeP.jpg | 18:03 |
rm_work | jkoelker / jorgem ^^^ | 18:03 |
rm_work | TrevorV: ^^ | 18:03 |
rm_work | that is ours | 18:03 |
TrevorV | That's got a LOT less labeled than the previous out | 18:03 |
TrevorV | one*** | 18:03 |
TrevorV | What is the first picture you sent? | 18:03 |
rm_work | sec | 18:09 |
rm_work | I am sending up-to-date of all 3 | 18:09 |
jkoelker | rm_work: +1 lgtm | 18:09 |
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TrevorV | thx rm_work | 18:13 |
rm_work | did the email arrive? | 18:14 |
rm_work | cool | 18:14 |
rm_work | forwarded to you koelker | 18:14 |
rm_work | *kölker | 18:15 |
rm_work | was having issues with that character on my phone so my email client couldn't find you :P | 18:15 |
TrevorV | german johnsom you're in front of the camera | 18:16 |
jwarendt | <jwarendt> Notes to be take on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-meetup-notes-12-16-2014 | 18:18 |
jkoelker | so the deal is on the backside of the l4 router, a gw is faked out on each of the amp's hypervisors | 18:18 |
jkoelker | that captures traffic destined for it, and encaps it up to the l4 FLIP system | 18:19 |
jkoelker | rm_work: ^ | 18:19 |
jkoelker | logically the gw could be considered on teh l4 system, but its not really there | 18:19 |
jkoelker | what is there is a tunnel endpoint that accepts the traffic | 18:20 |
jkoelker | decaps it, then applies the packet nat rules | 18:20 |
jkoelker | then emits them upstream to the "interlink" | 18:20 |
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jkoelker | yea it basically ring hashing against the l4 tuple to figure out what amp to send it to | 18:22 |
jkoelker | soooo, its "routing" | 18:22 |
jkoelker | but i don't know if i'm going to decrement the ttl and all that | 18:23 |
jkoelker | i might do that on the hypervisor | 18:23 |
jkoelker | think of encap as vlans on steriods | 18:23 |
jkoelker | i *could* have the public ip, | 18:25 |
jkoelker | but i'd rather not ;) | 18:25 |
TrevorV | jkoelker not sure if they're reading this | 18:25 |
jkoelker | the public ip would just have to be configured as an alias, but then all the phun of traffic sourcing comes into play | 18:25 |
TrevorV | rm_work Did you notice jkoelker messaging? | 18:25 |
jkoelker | TrevorV: yea i'm just brain dumping so next time rm_work gets a chance to look ;) | 18:26 |
jkoelker | correct, every lb will have its own isolated network on the "front" side | 18:26 |
jkoelker | so for internal load balancers, we would do a similar thing, just with tunnels on bolth sides of the FLIP system | 18:27 |
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TrevorV | Could someone ask Min to mute her microphone? She's echoing | 18:28 |
rm_work | dlundquist: ^^ | 18:28 |
rm_work | TrevorV: done | 18:29 |
TrevorV | ty | 18:29 |
dlundquist | jkoelker: Could you look this over and make sure I'm on accurately describing your setup: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-meetup-notes-12-16-2014 | 18:32 |
jkoelker | dlundquist: totes, reading now | 18:37 |
jkoelker | yep lgtm | 18:38 |
TrevorV | Suddenly so quiet | 18:38 |
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rm_work | yes | 18:43 |
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rm_work | alright, networking OVER (apparently) | 18:53 |
jkoelker | \o/ | 18:53 |
sballe | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-kilo-hackathon-controller-discussion | 18:53 |
jkoelker | i'm gonna diconnect from the hangout ping me if ya'll need anything | 18:55 |
rm_work | kk | 18:59 |
rm_work | does this work? | 18:59 |
rm_work | https://drive.draw.io/#G0BxpOztDqiF3_NVR1d0t6dGpJTGs | 18:59 |
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rm_work | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxpOztDqiF3_NVR1d0t6dGpJTGs/view?usp=sharing | 19:01 |
TrevorV | rm_work Could you have one of the HP people look at the diagram right now? | 19:02 |
TrevorV | Theirs doesn't make sense to me as I wrote it from your image | 19:02 |
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TrevorV | rm_work wtf is this? | 19:02 |
TrevorV | Your google doc? | 19:03 |
TrevorV | I mean your draw.io what is it? | 19:03 |
rm_work | FSA for Amp states | 19:03 |
TrevorV | Idk what FSA stands for | 19:04 |
dlundquist | Finite state machine | 19:04 |
Gayathri | can we start pointing our third party CIs to openstack/neutron-lbaas | 19:04 |
TrevorV | Thanks dlundquist | 19:04 |
TrevorV | Though sounds like it should be FSM | 19:04 |
dlundquist | automata | 19:05 |
Gayathri | i see my CI working with openstack/neutron with all the splits now | 19:05 |
TrevorV | I don't like that word. | 19:05 |
rm_work | TrevorV: you don't like a lot of things :P | 19:05 |
TrevorV | rm_work No one cares what you think in this case | 19:05 |
TrevorV | YOU DON'T KNOW ME | 19:05 |
rm_work | BUT I WANT TO GET TO KNOW YOU, MRS. PANCAKES! | 19:06 |
TrevorV | dlundquist are you BBG or HP? I forget :( | 19:06 |
dlundquist | TrevorV: FSA is finite state automata, FSM is flying spaghetti monster | 19:06 |
markmcclain | so here's a state diagram we've used for service vm-y stuff | 19:06 |
dlundquist | BBG | 19:06 |
markmcclain | http://akanda-rug.readthedocs.org/en/latest/state_machine.html#states | 19:06 |
TrevorV | Gotcha. Thanks dlundquist | 19:06 |
jorgem | rm_work: what are you all looking at? link? | 19:14 |
dougwig | mark's link, up two lines | 19:15 |
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rm_work | BTW we're at whiteboard -> Hangout | 19:24 |
rm_work | not sure if you guys are just idling both | 19:25 |
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TrevorV | I'm not idling | 19:35 |
TrevorV | I'm working on those diagrams | 19:35 |
TrevorV | rm_work | 19:35 |
TrevorV | dlundquist | 19:35 |
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rm_work | TrevorV: well, you're idling by my definition, ie mics/video muted | 19:35 |
TrevorV | ping | 19:36 |
rm_work | you may not be physically idle | 19:36 |
TrevorV | I would contribute if I thought I had something to say, which I don't. | 19:36 |
rm_work | right, like I'm idling in about 20 IRC channels right now :P | 19:37 |
TrevorV | dlundquist https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwuszeFIBGUsTjhCX25oOWdnSjA/view?usp=sharing could you check the section pertaining to your network diagram and fill in some necessary bits I might have missed? | 19:37 |
dlundquist | TrevorV: taking a look | 19:38 |
TrevorV | rm_work THAT definition is accurate... Unless you're actively checking them for information and would talk in them if you felt necessary. I don't call it idle if you're actively paying attention to it | 19:38 |
TrevorV | That would be like saying sitting in an audience at a play or going to the movies is being idle... | 19:38 |
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rm_work | are you watching both simultaneously? :P | 19:39 |
rm_work | I guess maybe two streams isn't hard | 19:40 |
TrevorV | I put *or* not *and* | 19:40 |
TrevorV | I was just saying "actively watching/paying attention" is not "idle" in my definition, and never will be | 19:41 |
TrevorV | Passive, I'll say passive, not idle. | 19:41 |
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TrevorV | Is lunch break now? | 19:54 |
TrevorV | Okay, muting | 19:54 |
rm_work | yep | 19:55 |
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rm_work | jorgem: hanging up, picking up again after we get back from lunch | 20:00 |
jorgem | rm_work: k | 20:01 |
jorgem | buh by | 20:01 |
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TrevorV | Network diagrams are as updated as I could approximate, could you guys check it for me when you're able? | 20:21 |
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rm_work | looking now -- not sure what you managed on the HP one but I am guessing I may have to tweak it since technically there was a second diagram interfering with the main one and it wasn't exactly clear :P | 21:02 |
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rm_work | oh looks like i framed that pic better than I thought | 21:06 |
rm_work | ah nm one thing was part of the other diagram, and looked so much like part of this one that i even confused myself :P | 21:10 |
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rm_work | TrevorV: I like that you even captured the squigly dashed line on the BBG diagram, rofl | 21:18 |
rm_work | like | 21:18 |
rm_work | EXACTLY captured | 21:18 |
rm_work | T_T | 21:18 |
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rm_work | picked back up | 21:21 |
rm_work | jorgem / TrevorV: about to start whiteboarding again on the Hangout, and Vidyo is picked back up | 21:27 |
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TrevorV | Heh rm_work you did like that squigly line right? It took me a minute :D | 21:41 |
TrevorV | rm_work we just finished foosaries | 21:41 |
rm_work | yeah was lulz | 21:41 |
TrevorV | jumping back in hangouts | 21:42 |
rm_work | is someone trying to talk to us? | 21:42 |
rm_work | we can barely hear... something | 21:42 |
TrevorV | Yeah, idk who it is... I'm muted | 21:43 |
ajmiller_ | I'm muted too. | 21:44 |
TrevorV | Topic being "life cycle management" again? | 21:45 |
rm_work | yeah | 21:45 |
rm_work | this is the "delete amphora" op | 21:45 |
TrevorV | Yeah, I follow that much, just double checking if they were bringing up a specific issue with it or just detailing it in general | 21:45 |
TrevorV | Or... specifically detailing it i mean... Idk whatever defining the task is lulz | 21:46 |
rm_work | we're arguing about what "delete" means, and whether it's async or sync | 21:47 |
TrevorV | I think it should be async (like our API) | 21:47 |
TrevorV | Also, what is the circle with crossed double arrows symbol? | 21:47 |
TrevorV | rm_work | 21:47 |
rm_work | that's what we're proposing | 21:47 |
rm_work | sounds like to do that we need to do some unplugging/cleanup first | 21:47 |
rm_work | TrevorV: router -- could also use "Cisco - Routers" | 21:48 |
TrevorV | Though they have the symbol wrong from what I saw.. two arrows point inward, two point out. | 21:48 |
TrevorV | But thanks | 21:48 |
rm_work | yes | 21:48 |
rm_work | it was quick shorthand | 21:48 |
TrevorV | Yeah | 21:49 |
TrevorV | Just making sure | 21:49 |
TrevorV | Are you editing right now? | 21:49 |
rm_work | replaced one of them as an example | 21:49 |
rm_work | yes | 21:49 |
TrevorV | I'll fix it | 21:49 |
TrevorV | Got it | 21:51 |
TrevorV | Noice | 21:52 |
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rm_work | You have another one in the BBG diagram just labeled "router" :P | 21:54 |
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rm_work | I am not clear on exactly what is happening there with his squiggly line, but they're both routers | 21:55 |
TrevorV | Right, I just made it like the picture was... picture has the circle labeled "router" so I left it alone lulz | 21:57 |
TrevorV | So correct me if I'm wrong rm_work but this is all going to be done by the same person or multiple people in the same code file right? | 22:10 |
rm_work | uhhh | 22:11 |
rm_work | all of what | 22:11 |
TrevorV | The operations for lifecycle management | 22:11 |
rm_work | no idea | 22:15 |
rm_work | could be split probably | 22:15 |
rm_work | some will be in driver code, some in network code, some in worker code | 22:15 |
TrevorV | Brandon is terrible at naming things, and he's worse at speaking up when rm_work names something stupid... Like overlord. or amphora. | 22:15 |
rm_work | so, ignore that I said "no idea", i have some idea | 22:15 |
rm_work | Stephen named Overlord :P | 22:16 |
TrevorV | But you like it | 22:16 |
TrevorV | stinkin sbalukoff | 22:16 |
rm_work | and Amphora is *awesome* | 22:16 |
rm_work | shut your face, anti-Amphora blasphemer | 22:16 |
TrevorV | I will never accept it | 22:16 |
TrevorV | Never. | 22:16 |
TrevorV | I don't follow the problem that's being discussed right now... | 22:20 |
TrevorV | Is there a problem being discussed? | 22:21 |
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rm_work | TrevorV: there is, and I am starting to wonder whether I get it either | 22:24 |
rm_work | we have two solutions and we're deciding which one | 22:24 |
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dougwig | hey, i came up with amphora. | 22:29 |
TrevorV | dougwig. No. Just, no. | 22:33 |
dougwig | did you see the debate that happened before it? | 22:33 |
dougwig | i was fine with "vm", which was the original. | 22:34 |
rm_work | dougwig: i take it as a compliment, pretty much anything good, TrevorV dislikes | 22:34 |
rm_work | dougwig: so if TrevorV dislikes it, you probably did something right :P | 22:34 |
TrevorV | rm_work That's so far from the truth it hurts. Except when it comes to food, then you might be able to assume that response. | 22:35 |
TrevorV | When it comes to naming conventions, the decisions were made regardless of my complaints or out from under me in general, not that I had a lot of swing in the votes or anything. | 22:36 |
rm_work | based a great deal on your food preferences, yes :P | 22:41 |
TrevorV | Yes, I figured | 22:43 |
TrevorV | Alright, I'm out for the day, see you guys again mañana | 22:44 |
rm_work | l8r | 22:48 |
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jorgem | rm_work: blogan: I'm out too. Please email me any updates if possible. | 23:12 |
blogan_ | jorgem: okay | 23:12 |
rm_work | kk | 23:12 |
rm_work | jorgem: toodles | 23:12 |
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dougwig | #vote Keep the name Amphora? Yes No | 23:34 |
dougwig | jk | 23:34 |
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blogan_ | No | 23:36 |
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blogan_ | xgerman: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136950/ | 23:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Merge feature/lbaasv2 https://review.openstack.org/141247 | 23:54 |
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