Tuesday, 2015-10-20

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23729800:51
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23730000:52
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720702:15
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720703:46
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720703:55
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720704:04
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720705:26
openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720705:29
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720705:53
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: REST Amp Agent: Compare lower case MAC Addresses  https://review.openstack.org/23741806:17
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: REST Amp Agent: Handle interfaces file too  https://review.openstack.org/23742106:26
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: REST Amp Agent: Handle interfaces file too  https://review.openstack.org/23742106:31
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rm_workblogan: you there07:08
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: VMWare NSXv LBaaSv2 driver  https://review.openstack.org/22726608:50
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: neutron lbaas should add the new appended timestamp field  https://review.openstack.org/22080410:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23730015:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Adds cert_manager option to octavia.conf  https://review.openstack.org/23718315:52
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openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/octavia: Add cert tracking and rotating in Housekeeping  https://review.openstack.org/21535916:29
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pc-potholeHrmm, not sure why the testudp failed :/16:43
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johnsomHmm, I would recheck.  We might have a mis-behaving test that causes the test order to matter16:44
* testudp doesn't like pc-pothole16:44
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pc-pothole:(16:44
* johnsom testudp better fix his "stuff"16:44
johnsomFYI, I didn't like german's fix for the cert upload check, so I'm creating another patch for that.  Will be up in the next half hour or so16:46
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Deploy listener configuration in order  https://review.openstack.org/23770717:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Fixes TLS processing in the rest driver  https://review.openstack.org/23720718:34
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johnsomLooks like we have some test that has a bug.  Test execution order matters.18:38
bloganjohnsom: juicy18:41
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openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/octavia: Refactor BarbicanAuth to allow for configurable auth method  https://review.openstack.org/21614020:39
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rm_workxgerman / johnsom / sbalukoff / blogan / pc-pothole: If I am making a BP for Octavia for the passphrase thing, would that be in 0.5 or 1.0? Are we considering 0.5 the active branch of development still?22:08
johnsom1022:08
johnsom1.022:08
rm_workI'd assume this BP would be worked on essentially immediately if it were to merge22:08
rm_workso all new BP go to 1.0?22:08
johnsom0.5 is now released and I have changed the target in launchpad22:08
rm_workok22:08
sbalukoff1+122:08
rm_worksbalukoff: did I brief you on that at all?22:09
sbalukoff1Nope22:09
sbalukoff1Passphrase thing?22:09
rm_worksbalukoff: have you followed the Barbican TLS workflow at all?22:09
johnsomI'm not sure what that is about either.22:09
rm_workah right, maybe just briefed internally and xgerman22:09
rm_workwe'll talk about it at the summit22:10
johnsomI only skimmed the chat you had the other day22:10
sbalukoff1I've followed it in a cursory sense-- not in depth.22:10
bloganrm_work: are you making a spec?22:10
rm_workyes blogan22:10
bloganrm_work: are we still doing specs now that rfes are the standard?22:10
rm_work<_<22:10
rm_workI ... think so?22:10
rm_workare we not?22:10
sbalukoff1rfe?22:10
blogannot a question directed at you relaly, just the group22:10
sbalukoff1Uh oh.22:10
rm_workRFE is just for post-RC22:10
rm_workI thought22:10
rm_workor, post freeze22:10
sbalukoff1What does RFE stand for?22:11
bloganno neutron only requires a spec if the neutron drivers team decides more information is needed from an rfe22:11
sbalukoff1And why is it replacing specs?22:11
bloganbut those are rare cases22:11
bloganrfe = request feature enhancement(?)22:11
rm_workwell, spec == blueprint == forum for discussion in a voting environment (gerrit)22:12
rm_worknot sure if RFE replaces that?22:12
sbalukoff1Right.22:12
bloganbasically people who want features shouldn't be required to do specs, so PMs can go and request features, and also a spec can drastically change upon actaul implementation22:12
johnsomTechnicall RFEs are the new thing, but you can still do specs and specs are encouraged if it is a big/complicated change22:12
bloganso in neutron, rfes are done and the documentation is added as part of the review22:12
rm_workblogan: i don't disagrree22:12
rm_workthat sounds reasonable22:12
rm_workbut22:12
johnsomhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html+22:12
johnsom^^^ That is the updated page22:13
rm_work(without the +)22:13
johnsomYeah, sorry22:13
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sbalukoff1Aah. ok.22:13
rm_workyeah RFE is pre-spec22:13
blogani had to do a spec for the vip delegation, so yeah if its a change that may affect a few things, then a sepc woudl be required22:13
rm_workit's to prevent the effort of writing a spec if the feature is going to just be *rejected*22:13
bloganno, not necessarily22:14
rm_work"This allows the team to verify the validity of a feature request before the process of submitting a neutron-spec is undertaken, or code is written."22:14
blogana spec is not always necessary22:14
sbalukoff1Makes sense.22:14
rm_workin this case I think it is22:14
bloganin fact i'd say it is the less common case22:14
rm_workso, I will skip that step and just write the spec22:14
sbalukoff1Right-- if the RFE is simple / obvious22:14
bloganit might be since this is an odd change22:15
sbalukoff1Just do it, eh22:15
rm_workbecause we will need the ability to clearly comment and iterate22:15
bloganbut anyway, you're doing this for neutron-lbaas correct?22:15
rm_workI'm hoping I can whip up a quick rough draft and put it up for review today22:15
bloganand octavia22:15
rm_workI was starting with Octavia22:15
johnsomI like specs personally.  It's a good way to get eyes on detailed plans IMHO22:15
rm_workand would go up to neutron-lbaas once we nailed it down in Octavia22:15
bloganwell with octavia neutron drivers dont do anything over22:15
bloganso thats really up to us22:15
rm_workright22:15
rm_workbut eventually I'd port this spec up22:15
bloganneutron-lbaas will require an rfe22:15
sbalukoff1johnsom: sure, I do to. But I can understand why we'd want to save someone the frustration of putting days of effort into a spec only to be told "uh... yeah, we're not going to do that."22:16
rm_workblah k22:16
sbalukoff1too22:16
sbalukoff1Man.22:16
sbalukoff1I cna't type today.22:16
rm_work^^ :P22:16
blogani'd start with neutron-lbaas first, bc if its not in neutron-lbaas first, then it wont really m atter22:16
rm_workblogan: hmm, alright22:16
blogani dont know what the neutron drivers thing22:16
rm_workdo we use neutron-specs for that?22:16
rm_workor is it in our lbaas repo22:16
* blogan can't read dougwig's insane mind22:17
bloganneutron-specs22:17
bloganbut create an rfe22:17
bloganfirst22:17
rm_workblargh22:17
rm_workI'll create an RFE second, if that makes people happy22:17
rm_workbut I want to get this spec written22:17
sbalukoff1Go for it, eh.22:18
sbalukoff1I mean-- you're pretty sure we won't reject the feature enhancement, right? ;22:18
sbalukoff1;)22:18
rm_workI hope not22:18
rm_workor we'll be in trouble22:18
sbalukoff1I mean-- I'll definitely give it a -1 for the first iteration.22:18
rm_workbut the exact implementation will need to be discussed22:18
rm_worki would expect no less22:18
rm_workI really mean *rough draft*22:18
rm_workbut i want to get something up for review to point to so i don't have to type up the basic explanation every time22:19
sbalukoff1Right.22:19
sbalukoff1Makes sense to me.22:19
rm_workwho knew "I want to write a spec!" would be controversial >_>22:19
xgermanwell, wan’t our last consensus that we want keystone and barbican do that ll for us :-)22:19
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bloganwell you can just copy and paste your spec's synopsis into teh rfe, nwo you have an rfe22:19
rm_workxgerman: MAYBE, but I'm not sure it's practical22:19
rm_workxgerman: thus, something where we can easily record line by line comments and do voting22:20
rm_workblogan: success22:20
rm_workthen I guess this goes in mitaka22:20
rm_workcalling it neutron-lbaas-store-tls-passphrase.rst22:21
rm_workprobably we should switch our octavia specs system to use actual openstack release cycle names, now that we are part of the release cycle...22:21
* rm_work wonders if he should write a spec for that :P22:21
xgermanso we can -2 it22:22
johnsomTechnically we are not yet part of their release cycle (As far as I know).22:22
rm_workah22:22
rm_workhmm k22:22
rm_workthen nm22:22
johnsomThere was a change request, but it got shot down.22:22
johnsomPlus, the other projects are still using independent numbers. So, yeah, I decided to stick with what we have for now.22:23
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blogani'm not sure if want to be part of that release cycle just yet22:28
blogannot until 1.022:28
bloganbut that might eb our next release soooo...22:29
rm_workhmm, starting in neutron-lbaas is making me think how this affects other drivers, but I think the answer should be "it doesn't", so hopefully fine22:30
bloganrm_work: i'll have to wait for the spec22:30
johnsomYeah, as long as we don't do things that require us in sync with neutron-lbaas we are fine as is22:30
rm_workare there numbered lists supported in our RST parser22:31
bloganrm_work: yes, but i dont remember22:31
rm_workok i think you just use 1. 2. etc22:32
bloganyou hard code the numbers?22:35
bloganrm_work: its #22:36
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bloganrm_work: http://sphinx-doc.org/rest.html22:36
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rm_workhmm ok that must be sphinx specific22:42
rm_workwell, I refer specifically to certain numbers, so I may as well number them explicitly22:43
rm_work"as in step 2 above"22:43
bloganyeah22:43
bloganmakes sense22:43
bloganaren't thse docs being generated by sphinx anyway?22:43
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rm_workyeah23:12
rm_workblogan / sbalukoff1 / xgerman / johnsom https://review.openstack.org/23780723:18
rm_workI tried to be somewhat thorough, let me know if anything is missing that you have questions about23:19
rm_workabout to grab dinner but will be back on in a few23:19
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rm_workblogan: RFE is linked >_>23:21
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: REST Amp Agent: Compare lower case MAC Addresses  https://review.openstack.org/23741823:35
openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: REST Amp Agent: Handle interfaces file too  https://review.openstack.org/23742123:50

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