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| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Update HACKING file with the new structure https://review.openstack.org/47133 | 11:54 |
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| cppcabrera | Good morning! :) | 12:06 |
| cppcabrera | flaper87: o/ | 12:06 |
| flaper87 | cppcabrera: yo yo! | 12:07 |
| flaper87 | how are you doing? | 12:07 |
| cppcabrera | Awesomely. It's a good day! How'd your talk go yesterday at PythonMilan? :) | 12:09 |
| flaper87 | It went pretty well, folks were curious and we also endded up discussiong oslo-incubator :D | 12:10 |
| flaper87 | They agreed with me that this is one of those cases where the worst idea is the best one | 12:10 |
| flaper87 | :D | 12:10 |
| cppcabrera | as in, "some idea" is better than "no idea"? :P | 12:11 |
| flaper87 | cppcabrera: yeaaaahhhh!!! It was nice to have more folks brainstorming and discussing strategies about what the best thing to do would be | 12:11 |
| cppcabrera | I think oslo-incubator is a great start. It wouldn't hurt to have an Oslo committee (is there such a thing?) to keep contributors and oslo projects on track. | 12:12 |
| cppcabrera | That committee idea came to mind because I see that haskell is now putting together a "Core Libraries Commiitee" (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/HaskellImplementorsWorkshop/2013/Kmett) | 12:13 |
| flaper87 | cppcabrera: there is. Oslo itself is a program which covers oslo-incubator and oslo.* modules | 12:13 |
| cppcabrera | awesome! | 12:13 |
| flaper87 | there are core contributors in oslo, per-module (as in .py files) maintainers and meetings on demand | 12:13 |
| flaper87 | as in any other projects | 12:14 |
| flaper87 | plus, design sessions at the summit | 12:14 |
| cppcabrera | sounds like the state of things is better than I thought! What ideas were proposed at PyMilan for making it even better? :) | 12:14 |
| flaper87 | cppcabrera: the first one was git submodules but that doesn't work. The difficult part is explaining why release + pinning doesn't work for modules in incubation | 12:15 |
| flaper87 | I mean, since OS is not opinionated plus has to have support for all kind of environments, we force distros / users to have each module installed in separted venvs | 12:16 |
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| cppcabrera | ahh, yeah. I could see git-submodules not working. :x | 12:16 |
| flaper87 | hence we need to make sure oslo's dependencies throughout openstack don't clash | 12:16 |
| flaper87 | etc | 12:16 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 12:16 |
| flaper87 | but, we got to the point were they also said: "You know what? Just copy that #$@#$!#$ file around" | 12:17 |
| flaper87 | ^^ | 12:17 |
| cppcabrera | lol | 12:18 |
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| flaper87 | cppcabrera: saw that most of the proxy patches got merged | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | awesome! | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | sorry if I wasn't that helpful with the review process there | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | btw, could you take a look here? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/marconi+branch:master+topic:change-marconi-structure,n,z | 12:25 |
| cppcabrera | flaper87: you were helpful with the reviews, for sure! | 12:34 |
| cppcabrera | You caught several issues that I didn't notice. :D | 12:35 |
| cppcabrera | The proxy is getting much nicer with a concrete solid driver in place. | 12:35 |
| cppcabrera | Still has rough edges, but once oslo.config and oslo.cache get involved, it should be very close to beta quality. | 12:35 |
| * cppcabrera checks out the link | 12:36 | |
| cppcabrera | +2'd on both, flaper87. | 12:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Fix Functional Tests https://review.openstack.org/46851 | 14:09 |
| cppcabrera | malini: Thanks for the functional tests fix! | 14:10 |
| malini | cppcabrera: my pleasure ;) | 14:12 |
| malini | I am super excited all our tests are now toxic :) | 14:12 |
| cppcabrera | haha, me too! | 14:20 |
| cppcabrera | It's making the CI side of things super easy. | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Refactor client's structure to reflect Marconi's https://review.openstack.org/47169 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Update requirements and pbr version https://review.openstack.org/46259 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Adding first oslo module and config https://review.openstack.org/46275 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Added a base class for tests https://review.openstack.org/46288 | 14:21 |
| cppcabrera | my my, look at all those... rebasings? | 14:21 |
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| flaper87 | cppcabrera: :D | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Refactor client's structure to reflect Marconi's https://review.openstack.org/47169 | 14:25 |
| cppcabrera | ooohh, a restructuring patch. | 14:26 |
| cppcabrera | flaper87 has been busy restructuring everything lately. :) | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:27 |
| * flaper87 has been using hammer, nails, drills and what not! | 14:27 | |
| flaper87 | making Marconi pieces look nice | 14:27 |
| cppcabrera | The addition of queues is making happier every day. The proxy implementation pretty much mirrors the queues implementation wrt to storage. | 14:28 |
| cppcabrera | So I can things like: 'open queues/storage/base.py; open proxy/storage/base.py' to easily compare and learn. | 14:29 |
| cppcabrera | **can do things like... | 14:29 |
| ametts | flaper87: how are things looking on python-marconiclient? I didn't realize you were working on it (I've been a bit disconnected from marconi lately). | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | ametts: so, lot of discussions lately, I think we kind of got to an agreement on how the API should look like | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | ametts: that means I already started coding it | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | and will have something ready soon, hopefully | 14:31 |
| ametts | The client has an API? I'm so confused... | 14:31 |
| cppcabrera | lol | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | ametts: programmatic API | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:31 |
| cppcabrera | +2'd on all marconiclient patches, flaper87. | 14:32 |
| cppcabrera | importutils is cooler than I thought, now that I took a closer look. | 14:32 |
| ametts | flaper87: Sounds good -- looking forward to trying it out! | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | ametts: stay tunned! | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | btw, al-maisan said he'll help out with it as well | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | I'm sitting right next to him right now | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | he's fighting with wifi | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:33 |
| ametts | Tell him I said "Hi". Too bad he couldn't make it to Atlanta. | 14:33 |
| zyuan | cppcabrera: review | 14:38 |
| cppcabrera | zyuan: which patchset? link? | 14:39 |
| cppcabrera | falcon? | 14:39 |
| zyuan | ?? my msg posted on falconframework partially appears here?! | 14:39 |
| zyuan | cppcabrera: review: https://github.com/racker/falcon/pull/184 | 14:39 |
| cppcabrera | unit tests find all the marconi-proxy errors. :P | 14:54 |
| * cppcabrera is writing proxy mongo storage unit tests | 14:54 | |
| zyuan | which? | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Update pbr and requirements to be current https://review.openstack.org/47179 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Migrate to testr https://review.openstack.org/47180 | 14:56 |
| cppcabrera | zyuan: Those that cover the interface exposed in proxy/storage/base.py | 14:57 |
| malini | flaper87: I have been looking at testscenarios.My biggest gripe is you have to define the 'scenarios' (a.k.a. the different data) at a class level & not per test case :( | 15:09 |
| malini | I think it makes better sense, when you are trying to test scenarios - a combination of dependent tests in a class | 15:09 |
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| cppcabrera | Haha, I'm finding the limits of mongodb... :P | 15:30 |
| cppcabrera | "database error: You cannot currently mix including and excluding fields. Contact us if this is an issue." | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Migrate to testr https://review.openstack.org/47180 | 15:31 |
| cppcabrera | woot - mongo tests are now passing on the catalog. Updating the patchset in a moment. | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alejandro Cabrera proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Add mongo driver for marconi proxy storage https://review.openstack.org/46375 | 16:07 |
| cppcabrera | malini: I've added some test code to the patch proposed above (mongo driver). It follows the conventions used by tests/unit/storage, and adds a new configuration file. Could you look over the test code to see if there's anything that stands out as clearly wrong? :D | 16:18 |
| malini | Sure cppcabrera | 16:18 |
| cppcabrera | yay, thanks! | 16:18 |
| al-maisan | ametts: I haven't given up on Atlanta :-) Plan to visit during my next travel to the US | 16:29 |
| cppcabrera | al-maisan: looking forward to seeing you! :) | 16:29 |
| * cppcabrera is eating lunch from ATL at this very moment | 16:29 | |
| ametts | al-maisan: Good to hear! | 16:30 |
| al-maisan | cppcabrera: likewise :-) | 16:30 |
| * al-maisan looks froward to flaper87|afk's mongodb talk :) | 16:32 | |
| cppcabrera | when is he giving that talk, al-maisan? :D | 16:33 |
| cppcabrera | I'm sure flaper87|afk has mentioned it, but I've forgotten at this point between all the exciting talks going on. :P | 16:33 |
| al-maisan | in 5 minutes or so | 16:33 |
| cppcabrera | oohhh | 16:33 |
| cppcabrera | sweet | 16:33 |
| al-maisan | we are at the university of Geneva here -- he's 1.5 metres away from me | 16:34 |
| * cppcabrera hopes slides and/or video are available afterwards | 16:34 | |
| al-maisan | slides probably -- don't see video kit here, so no video :( | 16:34 |
| cppcabrera | ah well, I'm happy with access to slides, at least. :) | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Update pbr and requirements to be current https://review.openstack.org/47179 | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Fix old import paths https://review.openstack.org/46973 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Update HACKING file with the new structure https://review.openstack.org/47133 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Alejandro Cabrera proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Add mongo driver for marconi proxy storage https://review.openstack.org/46375 | 19:43 |
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| kgriffs | guys, we NEED to fix the ddt output with that monster string | 19:47 |
| zyuan | AHHHHHAHAHAHAHA | 19:47 |
| kgriffs | anyone already got a patch in the works for it? | 19:47 |
| cppcabrera | lol | 19:47 |
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| zyuan | no. it only happens on functional tests | 19:47 |
| kgriffs | my eyes bleed everytime I see it scroll by in my console | 19:47 |
| cppcabrera | agreed, kgriffs | 19:47 |
| zyuan | hahahahahahhaa | 19:47 |
| malini | we will be moving away from ddt soon | 19:47 |
| malini | tht's the reason I didnt fix it yet | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | oh | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | ok | 19:48 |
| cppcabrera | to testscenarios? | 19:48 |
| zyuan | found something better? | 19:48 |
| cppcabrera | + testresources? | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | i'll get a blood transfusion and try to hold out until that happens | 19:48 |
| malini | not sure abt the better part | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | heh | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | malini: +1 | 19:48 |
| malini | but openstack uses testscenarios. so we'll ove to it | 19:49 |
| cppcabrera | that's not a good enough reason, IMO, to move to a different test tool. | 19:49 |
| kgriffs | improving testscenarious would be good hackday project | 19:49 |
| kgriffs | hmm, guess we need to be more careful about making snap decisions like this in the future... | 19:50 |
| malini | As is, testscenarios allows data params only at class level | 19:50 |
| * kgriffs wasn't included in the discussion | 19:50 | |
| kgriffs | malini: that is a pretty strong case to make against migrating | 19:50 |
| malini | kgriffs: you still have time to chip in | 19:50 |
| kgriffs | have you discussed with monty/doug? | 19:50 |
| malini | I talked to monty & they are going to add function level support to it | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | like, "hey i am trying to migrate but running into this problem that can't specify data at the test level" | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | oic | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | ETA? | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | I mean, i think we should hold off migrating until that lands | 19:51 |
| cppcabrera | +1 kgriffs | 19:52 |
| malini | yes..We cannot migrate till tht lands, without HUGE refactoring in marconi tests | 19:52 |
| kgriffs | ok, that seals the deal. it's a blocker for us | 19:52 |
| malini | monty has started work on it though | 19:52 |
| kgriffs | hmmm | 19:52 |
| cppcabrera | I looked at testresources just now, and I like the way they're approaching class level data management. However, w/o function-level data management, it seems like testresources and ddt are orthogonal. Both can be used. | 19:52 |
| malini | shud be soon | 19:52 |
| kgriffs | you mean, he is working on method-level data? | 19:53 |
| malini | kgriffs: yes | 19:53 |
| kgriffs | sweeeeet | 19:53 |
| cppcabrera | that'd be awesome. Hopefully, they can package that using decorator syntax. :) | 19:53 |
| malini | Its not going to be decorators :( | 19:53 |
| kgriffs | srlsy?! | 19:54 |
| malini | ddt was sweet (even with a terrible name) | 19:54 |
| kgriffs | #fail | 19:54 |
| cppcabrera | :/ | 19:54 |
| kgriffs | is testscenario an oslo thing? | 19:55 |
| malini | oslo thing as in ? | 19:55 |
| kgriffs | https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator | 19:55 |
| malini | it was written by Robert Collins, & that name pops up in all OS test tools | 19:55 |
| zyuan | i just don't use ddt to build spam test | 19:55 |
| zyuan | so i'm fine with that | 19:55 |
| kgriffs | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/testscenarios/0.4 | 19:56 |
| malini | with method support in testscenarios, we can get the same functionality as ddt | 19:57 |
| cppcabrera | I'm inclined to think that ddt + testscenarios actually work together. | 19:58 |
| cppcabrera | So migrating to testscenarios doesn't preclude using ddt. | 19:58 |
| kgriffs | yuck. it's hosted in Bazaar on launchpad | 19:58 |
| cppcabrera | AFAICT | 19:58 |
| malini | cppcabrera: method level support in testscenarios , will help us acheieve data driven tests. why do u think we need both? | 19:58 |
| cppcabrera | it all depends on the syntax, malini. If testscenarios is designed in such a way that the way to specify method level tests is not friendly, it may be in our best interests to take the best from both worlds. | 20:00 |
| malini | The feel I get is, OS always ends up writing its own libraries :( | 20:00 |
| zyuan | malini: you said the thing we don't say... | 20:00 |
| malini | I love the ddt syntax! | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Kurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/marconi: fix(mongodb): Marker generation creates a bottleneck under heavy load https://review.openstack.org/47242 | 20:01 |
| cppcabrera | kgriffs: Is that your giga patch? | 20:01 |
| cppcabrera | ;) | 20:01 |
| kgriffs | malini: good point. Next time you notice something like this, let me know and i can push back | 20:01 |
| * cppcabrera notices that its fairly sizable. | 20:02 | |
| cppcabrera | *it's | 20:02 |
| malini | kgriffs: can I send you a list? :d | 20:02 |
| kgriffs | (recommend NOT rebuilding things that doesn | 20:02 |
| kgriffs | already exist) | 20:02 |
| kgriffs | mtg time | 20:02 |
| cppcabrera | Thanks for looking into this, malini, re: test tooling. :D | 20:02 |
| kgriffs | cppcabrera: yes | 20:02 |
| cppcabrera | brb meeting | 20:02 |
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| cppcabrera | kgriffs: did a preliminary review on your patch. | 21:04 |
| cppcabrera | +1 - tenatively, 'til I can dedicate more time to look at it. | 21:04 |
| cppcabrera | It looks good so far. | 21:04 |
| cppcabrera | I just need to dig into the logic a little more. | 21:04 |
| kgriffs | yes, please do | 21:04 |
| kgriffs | it it is very possible i missed a race condition or something | 21:05 |
| cppcabrera | I'll think on it tomorrow morning, just before diving into implementing the oslo.cache components. | 21:05 |
| kgriffs | i just started the last schema-changing patch | 21:05 |
| kgriffs | will get that up for review | 21:05 |
| cppcabrera | cool | 21:05 |
| cppcabrera | I introduced a really silly issue with the marconi-proxy mongo storage patch. I hardcoded the driver details in app.py, and py26 gate does not like that. | 21:06 |
| kgriffs | once we have multi-db and this patch i am working on now (combine p and q into a single field) we can close this bp. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/api-perf-tuning | 21:06 |
| cppcabrera | My guess is that there's a mongodb installed on gate-py27. | 21:06 |
| kgriffs | cppcabrera: oic | 21:06 |
| cppcabrera | +1 kgriffs | 21:06 |
| cppcabrera | With the py26 issue in mind, could you review the proxy storage patch at your earliest convenience? | 21:07 |
| kgriffs | cppcabrera: could be. How about creating a dummy/in-memory reference driver for testing? | 21:07 |
| kgriffs | s/dummy/mock | 21:07 |
| kgriffs | yes, I've got it on my shortlist of TODOs | 21:07 |
| cppcabrera | +1 kgriffs, to the memory driver. | 21:08 |
| cppcabrera | I've considered it. | 21:08 |
| cppcabrera | I just need to figure out how long it'd take to write it. :P | 21:09 |
| cppcabrera | also, lol @ short list of TODOs. :P | 21:09 |
| cppcabrera | our TODOs are lengthy indeed for awhile longer. | 21:10 |
| kgriffs | malini: this will need to be benchmarked to see if it helps anything - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47242/ | 21:11 |
| kgriffs | pls. +1 or −1 based on the results | 21:11 |
| kgriffs | oz_akan: ^^^ | 21:11 |
| zyuan | kgriffs: i hope the your side counter patch can pause reviewing for a while | 21:19 |
| zyuan | it heavily conflicts with multidb patch | 21:20 |
| zyuan | i'm rebasing multidb patch; i don't want to do it again after i finished cleaning up.... | 21:20 |
| kgriffs | i don't think there will be any major changes to it, maybe a few tweaks, before merging | 21:21 |
| kgriffs | so future rebasing should be a lot less painful | 21:21 |
| cppcabrera | I'm out for the night. oslo.cache, memory drivers, and more await me tomorrow. | 21:22 |
| cppcabrera | Have a good night, guys! | 21:22 |
| kgriffs | ciao! | 21:22 |
| zyuan | see u | 21:22 |
| cppcabrera | get some sleep. ;) | 21:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/marconi: perf(mongodb): Combine project and queue message fields https://review.openstack.org/47259 | 21:33 |
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