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openstackgerrit | Yeela Kaplan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implement tables and unit tests for sqlalchemy storage backend https://review.openstack.org/60223 | 09:47 |
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flaper87 | ykaplan: ^^^^^ I love reading those messages :) | 09:48 |
ykaplan | flaper87: I love writing them :) :) :) | 09:48 |
flaper87 | ykaplan: good answer! :D | 09:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Yeela Kaplan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implement tables and unit tests for sqlalchemy storage backend https://review.openstack.org/60223 | 14:10 |
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ykaplan | flaper87, hopefully latest fix :) | 14:12 |
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flaper87 | ykaplan: thaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks :D | 14:27 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: ping | 15:16 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: the cache patch is waiting for your love | 15:16 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: good morning, btw! | 15:16 |
flaper87 | I hope you're feeling great today | 15:17 |
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alcabrera | Good morning! | 15:46 |
mpanetta | morning | 15:46 |
mpanetta | I forgot to bring the quaternions book :( I was gonna loan it to ya to browse :) | 15:46 |
kgriffs | flaper87: w00t | 15:47 |
kgriffs | btw | 15:47 |
kgriffs | alcabrera, flaper87: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/make-ttl-optional | 15:47 |
kgriffs | I want to get a decision on this since it impacts the v1.1 spec | 15:48 |
alcabrera | mpanetta: wow, that's awesome! I'll look forward to checking it out when you can bring it. :D | 15:48 |
alcabrera | kgriffs: checking out them TTLs | 15:48 |
mpanetta | alcabrera: warning, it may change the way you think about the univers a little bit :P | 15:49 |
mpanetta | +e | 15:49 |
alcabrera | kgriffs: +1, under the condition that it should be a configuration time option, e.g., "if max_ttl is set to 0, then limit checking is disabled" | 15:49 |
alcabrera | Some deployments may want to disallow "forever messages" | 15:49 |
alcabrera | (My own, personal, not-yet-existent deployment would be one of those) :D | 15:50 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: +1 something along those lines | 15:51 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: ^ | 15:51 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: and good morning | 15:51 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:51 |
* flaper87 is happy, his 35mm f1.8 got home | 15:51 | |
flaper87 | w000t | 15:51 |
alcabrera | mpanetta: more universe changing is good. I wrapped up "Love and Math" last night. Learned all about symmetries, learned more than ever before about duals, and then some more details on String Theory and supersymmetry. | 15:51 |
alcabrera | flaper87: awesome! Picture *all* the things. | 15:51 |
mpanetta | dual numbers? | 15:51 |
mpanetta | Duals are cool | 15:52 |
alcabrera | flaper87: I hope to see your Twitter feed overflowing with pictures, haha. :) | 15:52 |
mpanetta | there are quat duals btw ;) | 15:52 |
* flaper87 has a flickr and 500px account. | 15:52 | |
alcabrera | mpanetta: whole dual systems, much like Voroni diagrams are the duals of Delaunay triangulations. :) | 15:52 |
flaper87 | I've uploaded like 0.00000001% of the pictures | 15:52 |
flaper87 | :/ | 15:52 |
flaper87 | -ENOTENOUGHTIME | 15:52 |
mpanetta | alcabrera: Lost me there ;) | 15:53 |
flaper87 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaper87/ | 15:53 |
alcabrera | lol | 15:53 |
alcabrera | do { usleep(1000); } while (not_enough_time()); | 15:54 |
kgriffs | ok peeps, I'll document the semantics in the v1.1 spec, but someone will need to take up the implementation | 15:54 |
kgriffs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/make-ttl-optional | 15:54 |
mpanetta | flaper87: Nice pics! | 15:54 |
alcabrera | flaper87: very nice! These are beautiful. Some of them make me want to take a walk by railroads. | 15:55 |
mpanetta | yes | 15:56 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: That's the 01 highway SFO->LA | 15:56 |
alcabrera | kgriffs: v1.1's going to be fun. Lots of nice tweaks to the way things work. | 15:56 |
* flaper87 drove all the way down! | 15:56 | |
flaper87 | kgriffs: LGTM | 15:56 |
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kgriffs | flaper87: d00d, nice pix | 16:13 |
kgriffs | i din't realize you were into photography | 16:13 |
flaper87 | :D thx | 16:13 |
flaper87 | http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d3100/ this is the one I use | 16:14 |
flaper87 | (the red one) | 16:14 |
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kgriffs | flaper87: would you mind joining me in #solum for a minute? I want to discuss something oslo logging related | 16:22 |
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kgriffs | which will also be useful to marconi and, I suspect, other projects as well | 16:22 |
kgriffs | Alex_Gaynor: if you have a moment, I'd love to chat with you on this in #solum as well | 16:22 |
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Alex_Gaynor | kgriffs: About to leave for the office, shall I ping you when I'm there? | 16:54 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: btw, did you see my comment in the falcon patch? | 16:56 |
mpanetta | Ooo falcon comments... | 16:57 |
cpallares | flaper87: put this on your terminal: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl | 16:57 |
flaper87 | cpallares: ahhh, I think I know what that is! :D | 16:58 |
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cpallares | flaper87: the greatest story ever told by a terminal :P | 16:58 |
flaper87 | cpallares: yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! | 16:59 |
flaper87 | I had forgotten about that link | 16:59 |
alcabrera | hehe, I remember jdprax showing me this long, long ago. :P | 17:00 |
mpanetta | cpallares: Sweet! | 17:00 |
kgriffs | Alex_Gaynor: I think we got it covered. flaper87 is going to work on an oslo bp - maybe you guys can chat tomorrow morning | 17:00 |
cpallares | alcabrera: ...in a galaxy far far away? | 17:02 |
cpallares | :P | 17:03 |
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alcabrera | cpallares: heh, yeeess - all of 10,000,000,000 nanometers away | 17:05 |
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alcabrera | I read this tweet just now, and it made me think of Marconi | 17:09 |
alcabrera | 'is there any distributed systems person on the planet who would say “why yes, I like my queues to be unbounded”' - Jeff Hodges | 17:09 |
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cpallares | mpanetta, regarding this bug again https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1245987 does this include falcon errors? | 17:23 |
flaper87 | cpallares: mmh, what falcon error? | 17:29 |
kgriffs | flaper87: btw, per ttx's suggestion I am going to create a placeholder "graduation" bp to use for tracking things in lieu of a special "graduation" milestone | 17:30 |
cpallares | flaper87: like these https://github.com/openstack/marconi/blob/master/marconi/queues/transport/wsgi/metadata.py#L48 | 17:31 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: oh, interesting. So that bp will depend on all graduation patches | 17:31 |
kgriffs | right | 17:33 |
kgriffs | or vice versa | 17:33 |
kgriffs | whatever allows us to list them more easily in launchpad | 17:33 |
kgriffs | also, I would like to cut an i-2 tarball when the time comes, so am working to clean up all our bps and bugs to make sure they are properly targeted to ms. | 17:33 |
kgriffs | ttx also helped me to properly close out i1 | 17:33 |
kgriffs | lots of stuff to learn! | 17:33 |
Alex_Gaynor | kgriffs: okey doke | 17:33 |
kgriffs | Alex_Gaynor: thanks! | 17:34 |
* flaper87 has seen okey doke written in sooooo many different ways. He doesn't know how the heck it's supposed to be written | 17:34 | |
kgriffs | flaper87: I was thinking Alex_Gaynor could help sanity check that logging bp for us before we send it out for more general RFC | 17:34 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah, I saw the emails | 17:34 |
kgriffs | lol | 17:34 |
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kgriffs | spamtastic | 17:34 |
kgriffs | I still have a lot to do, but it's a start | 17:35 |
kgriffs | :p | 17:35 |
* flaper87 filters al kgriffs emaisl | 17:35 | |
flaper87 | erm, did I say that aloud ? | 17:36 |
flaper87 | :D | 17:36 |
kgriffs | :o | 17:36 |
* kgriffs wonders if flaper87 works for NSA | 17:36 | |
* flaper87 filters all kgriffs emails and put them into the must-read-super-important-starred folder | 17:38 | |
flaper87 | Unbelievable. The things I'm forced to say to keep kgriffs happy | 17:38 |
flaper87 | :D | 17:38 |
kgriffs | LOOOOL | 17:39 |
* kgriffs wonders if flaper87 realizes that i have a recording of every word he has spoken over the past 2 years | 17:39 | |
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flaper87 | LOLOLOLOL | 17:40 |
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cpallares | flaper87: yes on falcon error? | 17:44 |
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flaper87 | cpallares: ohhh sorry sorry sorry, I wasn't ignoring you :( | 17:45 |
flaper87 | cpallares: kgriffs keeps distracting me | 17:45 |
flaper87 | cpallares: he ate my homework | 17:45 |
flaper87 | I swear | 17:46 |
alcabrera | kgriffs - giver of pop-tarts, eater of homeworks | 17:46 |
cpallares | lol | 17:46 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: LOOOL | 17:46 |
flaper87 | cpallares: yeah, I'd say to log that as well | 17:46 |
flaper87 | cpallares: but instead of error it should be debug | 17:46 |
mpanetta | cpallares: Yes, I think it should include any error that the system generates. | 17:54 |
* mpanetta was out noming | 17:54 | |
* cpallares is hungry | 17:55 | |
* cpallares wants to nom | 17:55 | |
mpanetta | go forth and nom! | 17:56 |
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mpanetta | haha | 17:59 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: alcabrera https://thoughtstreams.io/flaper87/marconi-progress-and-updates/#card-3034 | 22:06 |
openstackgerrit | Cindy Pallares proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Added logging to HTTP errors https://review.openstack.org/63222 | 22:08 |
kgriffs | flaper87: eeeenteresting | 22:15 |
kgriffs | i think that is a direction worth exploring, for sure | 22:16 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah, I think it may bring some benefits, I'm not 100% sure the ones I posted there are the ones that make this thing worthwide but I'll keep digging into it. | 22:17 |
flaper87 | message size will definitely be something we'll struggle with | 22:17 |
kgriffs | yep | 22:17 |
flaper87 | and that we need to improve somehow | 22:17 |
kgriffs | for sure | 22:17 |
flaper87 | that obviously consumes lot of bandwitdh and blah blah | 22:17 |
flaper87 | :D | 22:17 |
flaper87 | but think about sending the message to redis and putting the body into s w i f t (<- testing notmyname's irc highlighter) | 22:18 |
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kgriffs | the size routing could be done in the client, e.g., if a message is big enough, stick the body in swift with an href to it in the message itself | 22:19 |
kgriffs | that avoids more bandwidth thing | 22:19 |
kgriffs | but that complicates clients | 22:19 |
* flaper87 should've mentioned notmyname in a separte message, not the one with s w i f t (facepalm) | 22:19 | |
kgriffs | lol | 22:19 |
kgriffs | routing on it's own has merit | 22:20 |
torgomatic | it's like making a loud noise in a cube farm; lots of people just pop up and go "what?" | 22:20 |
torgomatic | :) | 22:20 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah, I think curls, couhg cough cough, clients have to be stupid | 22:20 |
flaper87 | I mean, they just have to know how to talk to maconi and treat it gently | 22:21 |
flaper87 | the rest should go into marconi | 22:21 |
mpanetta | cpallares: Did I just get an email because you have started to work on the 500 errors bug? | 22:23 |
mpanetta | because if so, yay! :) | 22:25 |
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alcabrera | I'm out for the day guys. :) | 22:27 |
alcabrera | flaper87, kgriffs: I'll check out the thoughtstream later. I saw "Routers" and thought it'd take more thinking than I can handle at the moment. ;) | 22:27 |
alcabrera | take care! | 22:27 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: hehe, sure! just random thoughts | 22:27 |
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notmyname | flaper87: sneaky sneaky | 22:27 |
flaper87 | notmyname: :D | 22:28 |
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