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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Open Juno development https://review.openstack.org/85102 | 12:56 |
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| flwang | flaper87: morning | 13:03 |
| flaper87 | flwang: hey hey | 13:05 |
| flwang | flaper87: hey superman, I need your bless on my baby https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84460/ | 13:05 |
| sriram | Good Morning :) | 13:05 |
| flaper87 | sriram: gooooooood morning | 13:06 |
| * flaper87 clicks | 13:06 | |
| flaper87 | flwang: could you address alej nit ? | 13:06 |
| flaper87 | flwang: I'll ninja approve after that since alej already +2 | 13:06 |
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| flwang | flaper87: what's the nit? two blank lines? | 13:16 |
| flwang | but pep8 didn't blame it at all | 13:16 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 13:16 |
| flaper87 | because it is not checking the examples folder | 13:16 |
| flaper87 | ;0 | 13:16 |
| flaper87 | ;) | 13:16 |
| * flaper87 will fix that | 13:16 | |
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| flwang | ah | 13:17 |
| flwang | I see | 13:17 |
| flwang | I will fix that | 13:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Add sample for Keystone auth https://review.openstack.org/84460 | 13:29 |
| flwang | flaper87: ^^^ | 13:31 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: +A | 13:34 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 13:34 |
| flwang | flaper87: thank you | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-marconiclient: Add sample for Keystone auth https://review.openstack.org/84460 | 13:37 |
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| flwang | malini: moning | 13:38 |
| malini | good evening flwang! | 13:38 |
| malini | congratulations ! you are already at the weekend ;) | 13:39 |
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| alcabrera | Good morning, all. :D | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | malini: is getting to the weekend a life achievment ? | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: goood morning | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | malini: and good morning :) | 13:41 |
| malini | that is week achievement :D | 13:41 |
| * flaper87 has failed at actually doing weekend stuff during weekends | 13:41 | |
| * flaper87 just learned something new | 13:42 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | lol | 13:42 |
| malini | flaper87: I will continue to enlighten you 8-| | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | there's tiered achievements for making it to weekends | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | bronze: 1 weekend experienced | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | silver: 10 weekends | 13:42 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: so sorry we didn't talk as much as I wished about GADTs yday. We had the hangout and then I had to run | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | gold: 100 weekends | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | and so forth | 13:42 |
| * flaper87 is now back home | 13:42 | |
| alcabrera | flaper87: hey, no worries. Things looked hyper busy for you yesterday. :) | 13:43 |
| alcabrera | gadts are forever | 13:43 |
| * flaper87 wants to buy the "Enlightments for weeks and life" book written by the one and only: MALINI!!!!!! | 13:43 | |
| flaper87 | Elnlightenments* | 13:44 |
| malini | :D | 13:44 |
| flaper87 | ah damn, I'm still hungry | 13:44 |
| flaper87 | you got it | 13:44 |
| alcabrera | lol | 13:44 |
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| flwang | malini: yeah, I'm in the weekend | 13:48 |
| flwang | malini: but I have to work to catch you guys, sigh :( | 13:48 |
| malini | flwang: you are becoming another flaper87 ! | 13:49 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: oh, don't put that on us | 13:49 |
| * flaper87 is not going to feel guilty | 13:49 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:49 |
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| malini | looks like I can start working on benchmarking today..woot | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | alcabrera: https://www.youtube.com/user/A9Videos <- recomended | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | full of programing history | 14:19 |
| * alcabrera clicks | 14:25 | |
| alcabrera | flaper87: ah, stepanov already on the first video | 14:26 |
| alcabrera | cool | 14:26 |
| alcabrera | I'll check it out | 14:26 |
| alcabrera | tyhanks, flaper87! | 14:26 |
| alcabrera | :) | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: yeah, he basically speaks in most of them, a bit rambly sometimes but those videos are definitely worth watching | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | (or most of them just hearing) | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:27 |
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| alcabrera | what'd you think of the yminsky video, flaper87? (effective ML, make illegal states unrepresentable) | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: that video is really nice. I really enjoyed following what he was saying. I normally don't watch the videos but just hear them while doing other things but I took the time to watch it and fully focus on the presentation | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | it was worth it | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | The most important thing is that most of those statements are applicable to any language | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | probably languages with certain features | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | but not just ML | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | I liked the fact that he just focused on ML despite knowing this\ | 14:30 |
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| alcabrera | I'm glad to hear it. :D | 14:32 |
| alcabrera | yeah, you need a decent type system to manage those techniques | 14:32 |
| alcabrera | any of [scala, f#, haskell, ocaml, sml] are directly applicable | 14:33 |
| alcabrera | I suspect Rust is, as well | 14:33 |
| alcabrera | that video is one that I like to go back tio | 14:33 |
| alcabrera | *to | 14:33 |
| alcabrera | it's so full of just Really Solid Advice! | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: yeah, it is. Although rust don't have GADTs nor HKT (it'll probably have, though) | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | doesn't* | 14:34 |
| * flaper87 is tired :P | 14:34 | |
| alcabrera | I hope it gets them. :) | 14:34 |
| alcabrera | heh | 14:34 |
| alcabrera | HKT, especially | 14:34 |
| alcabrera | GADTs, I'm not that worried about | 14:34 |
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| flaper87 | there are several way sto go around GADTs in Rust but HKT, well, it's not something you can just workaround | 14:34 |
| alcabrera | since it gets really awkward to encode fundamentally lovely types (Monoid, Maybe, Either, Monad, Functor, Arrow) w/o HKT | 14:34 |
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| alcabrera | ':k Either' is all '* -> * -> *', so we can prevent silliness like 'Either Maybe Maybe' | 14:35 |
| alcabrera | from compiling | 14:36 |
| alcabrera | (:k Maybe being * -> *) | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: yeah, as of now (as pointed in the blog post about HKTs) you can get around with a bunch of `Option` and `match` | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | but that ends up in a christmas-tree like codebase | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | and that's not really nice | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | also, the code generated out of all those matches wouldn't be *that* optimized | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | so, HKTs are definitely a good thing to have | 14:37 |
| alcabrera | yikes | 14:37 |
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| kgriffs | dang. I just noticed the comment in setup.cfg still says "icehouse" :p | 15:00 |
| kgriffs | well, I think we can still cut rc1 | 15:00 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: did you happen to already ping ttx this morning? | 15:00 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I did yday (re rc1) | 15:00 |
| flaper87 | I just told him we were ready to cut it | 15:00 |
| kgriffs | ok, sounds good | 15:00 |
| flaper87 | but I don't think he's done anything so it may be worth pinging him again | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: btw, sorry, I forgot to let you know | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | :( | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Kurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Update comment for version to say "Juno" instead of "Icehouse" https://review.openstack.org/85380 | 15:01 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: that's ok, i'll forgive you some day. ;) | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: +A is that enough for you to forgive me? | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | Couldn't have been approved faster than that | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | :P | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | :P | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | heh | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | some ninja-ing going on, I see | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: maybe if you throw in some fresh pasta... | 15:03 |
| alcabrera | mmm, pasta... | 15:03 |
| alcabrera | 10x parmesan cheese | 15:03 |
| kgriffs | flaper87, alcabrera: where do we stand with a redis driver for oslo cache? | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | I think there's a GSoC project that will focus on adding it | 15:12 |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | kgriffs, flaper87: there's one project proposing to add it, and I believe that's the most we have, atm | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | ok | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: what do you think about that thread wrt auth_token middleware? | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | http://markmail.org/message/pxfuashp2gz255ie | 15:15 |
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| alcabrera | "dogpile.cache builds on the dogpile.core locking system, which implements the idea of "allow one creator to write while others read" in the abstract." | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | I like that locking mechanic | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | However, this implies in-memory caching | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | since there's no way to ensure that property for an external data store | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | not applicable for Redis backend | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I think that was a wise thing to do (re thread) | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | FWIW, I'm done waiting for the dogpile.cache wraper around oslo.cache | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | as soon as Juno is open on oslo-inc I'll update the memcache patch | 15:20 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: what does dogpile do for us? | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | and we should mvoe forward to add the redis support | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: it already has support for pretty much everything we want to add support to oslo.cache | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | but its api is not as nice | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | FYI, dogpile's author == sqlalchemy author | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | oh, so would oslo cache basically morph into a facade[1] on top of dogpile? | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facade_pattern | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah pretty much | 15:22 |
| flaper87 | TBH, I'm still not sure what Morgan's idea is / was | 15:22 |
| flaper87 | but that's what I understood | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | oh, ok | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | well, seems like if nothing else happens, we should work with keystone to split out their middleware into a separate library | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | it only makes sense | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Update comment for version to say "Juno" instead of "Icehouse" https://review.openstack.org/85380 | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | i mean, what does middleware have to do with the client? | 15:25 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: the same a bear has to do with a parachute | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | now you're talkin' | 15:26 |
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| kgriffs | malini: ping | 16:00 |
| malini | kgriffs: pong | 16:01 |
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| flaper87 | malini: ping | 16:03 |
| malini | I am popular today :D | 16:03 |
| * flaper87 is just messing with malini | 16:03 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 16:03 |
| malini | :( | 16:03 |
| flaper87 | malini: sorry :( | 16:03 |
| malini | flaper87: you just popped my bubble | 16:04 |
| flaper87 | malini: don't get me wrong, you're already popular ;) | 16:04 |
| flaper87 | I was just throwing some dead pings out there | 16:04 |
| malini | phew..I am relieved now ;) | 16:04 |
| flaper87 | The only thing I hate about kgriffs PTL candidacy is that since he's the only candidate, I don't get the chance to vote for him | 16:05 |
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| malini | I loved the candidacy email :) | 16:06 |
| flaper87 | malini: me too! | 16:06 |
| malini | I didnt see many others which focused on others :) | 16:06 |
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| kgriffs | malini: hey, so I was just putting together a list of TODO items for graduation from a QA perspective. | 16:11 |
| kgriffs | so far I have: | 16:11 |
| kgriffs | 1. voting devstack gates for all stock storage drivers, | 16:11 |
| kgriffs | 2. tempest stuff | 16:12 |
| kgriffs | so, what do we need to do for tempest? | 16:12 |
| malini | kgriffs: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-marconi-tests | 16:12 |
| malini | We will also have a new contributor helping us with this | 16:13 |
| kgriffs | really? cool. | 16:13 |
| malini | Jorge already contributed one test, but he will be working more | 16:13 |
| kgriffs | so, this isn't simply a matter of moving the existing integration tests? | 16:13 |
| malini | kgriffs: I will keep the existing tests where they are, since we want to guarantee the quality of our project no matter what somebody else says | 16:14 |
| malini | But we will add new tests to Tempest | 16:14 |
| malini | some of it will be duplication | 16:15 |
| kgriffs | oh, ok | 16:15 |
| malini | there is still debate in QA community about where those tests should be | 16:16 |
| kgriffs | oic | 16:16 |
| malini | I believe projects should be held accountable for their quality - & the functional tests help us do that | 16:16 |
| malini | we dont want somebody else telling us that our claim doesn't work :-P | 16:17 |
| kgriffs | kk | 16:18 |
| flaper87 | and since PTL Voting is open and kgriffs is our only candidate, he's officially Marconi's PTL for Juno | 16:20 |
| * flaper87 will party tonight, all night long! | 16:20 | |
| kgriffs | heh | 16:21 |
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| alcabrera | kgriffs: congrats on the PTL victory. You crushed the opposition. None were left standing. ;) | 16:43 |
| kgriffs | lol | 16:43 |
| malini | :D | 16:44 |
| malini | Congratulations kgriffs!! | 16:44 |
| kgriffs | I just arranged a few packages to be delivered to some folks last week. I'm sure they has nothing to do with anyone being dissuaded to run. | 16:44 |
| alcabrera | hehe | 16:44 |
| * kgriffs knows some people | 16:45 | |
| kgriffs | anybody get a voting link? | 16:46 |
| kgriffs | I'm not seeing one. | 16:46 |
| Alex_Gaynor | I don't think voting links are sent out if there's only one candidate? | 16:46 |
| kgriffs | no, but "We are having elections for Nova, Neutron, Cinder, Ceilometer, Heat and TripleO." | 16:47 |
| malini | maybe you need to be an ATC in the specific project? | 16:48 |
| malini | 'If you are a Foundation individual member and had a commit in one of the | 16:48 |
| malini | program's projects[0] over the Havana-Icehouse timeframe (April 4, 2013 | 16:48 |
| malini | 06:00 UTC to April 4, 2014 05:59 UTC) then you are eligible to vote.' | 16:48 |
| flaper87 | they are not sent | 16:48 |
| flaper87 | Alex_Gaynor: ^ | 16:48 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: ^ | 16:49 |
| * flaper87 got voting links for projects he *had NO IDEA* he has contributed to. | 16:49 | |
| Alex_Gaynor | flaper87: haha, same, I think I sent a pep8 fix to some of these, and nothing else :-) | 16:50 |
| kgriffs | malini: ah, I missed that blurb. makes sense. | 16:51 |
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| kgriffs | and by "missed" I mean "totally glossed over and now I feel dumb" | 16:53 |
| malini | :D | 16:54 |
| malini | thts how I usually read | 16:54 |
| malini | I have to read everything 3 times, to get the entire content | 16:54 |
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| sriram | kgriffs,flaper87,malini,alcabrera: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/api-v1.1-lazy-create-queues | 17:29 |
| sriram | Can i get this blueprint assigned to me? | 17:29 |
| flaper87 | sriram: sure thing | 17:30 |
| sriram | I should start work on this really soon. | 17:30 |
| sriram | thanks flaper87 :) | 17:30 |
| flaper87 | sriram: what's your username on LP ? | 17:30 |
| sriram | thesriram | 17:30 |
| flaper87 | sriram: done | 17:31 |
| flaper87 | thanks for taking it | 17:31 |
| sriram | awesome! | 17:31 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: can u join #falconframework? I wanted to discuss something | 17:37 |
| kgriffs | brb (Pizza!) | 17:41 |
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| alcabrera | kgriffs: sure thing | 17:52 |
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