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| alcabrera | good morning, all. o/ | 13:32 |
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| malini | oyeee!!! | 13:32 |
| mpanetta | woo! | 13:32 |
| sriram | aye aye | 13:32 |
| malini | Here comes the first bencmark results http://166.78.249.105:8000/report.html | 13:36 |
| mpanetta | That was fast | 13:36 |
| mpanetta | Hmmm | 13:38 |
| sriram | get claims are super fast | 13:39 |
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| * alcabrera reads the thing | 13:42 | |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | these are looking pretty speedy | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | 'cept maybe post message | 13:42 |
| mpanetta | Which? | 13:42 |
| malini | I think it gets slowed down with messages in the DB | 13:42 |
| alcabrera | makes sense | 13:43 |
| malini | We should try with empty DB/ vs DB with messsages in it | 13:43 |
| sriram | this was on fresh DB right? | 13:43 |
| alcabrera | yup | 13:43 |
| alcabrera | err | 13:43 |
| alcabrera | sriram: I have no idea. :P | 13:43 |
| sriram | alcabrera: thats ok :) | 13:43 |
| malini | http://166.78.249.105:8000/images/graphes-Transactions-mean.png | 13:44 |
| malini | post_message takes longer towards the end of the test | 13:44 |
| malini | tht means , as DB starts getting populated | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/91559 | 13:45 |
| mpanetta | Yeah, but you also have more concurrent connections at that time | 13:45 |
| sriram | hmm, interesting. | 13:45 |
| mpanetta | Ouch, 5 seconds | 13:45 |
| malini | mpanetta: but why is it just slow for post_messages in tht case? | 13:45 |
| mpanetta | Good question | 13:45 |
| mpanetta | I am trying to find a mongodb thing to run while testing | 13:45 |
| sriram | post_claim should also slow down then.. if its slowing down for posts. but that isnt the case. | 13:46 |
| malini | mpanetta: We used to have a mongo DB monitoring thing, rt? | 13:46 |
| malini | where we wud login to their website? | 13:46 |
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| mpanetta | Oh, no we don't pay for that | 13:47 |
| malini | hmm..I thought it was a free one... | 13:47 |
| mpanetta | Oh, not that I know of. I only know of MMS | 13:48 |
| malini | yeah,..tht is the one | 13:48 |
| malini | is it a paid service? | 13:48 |
| mpanetta | I thought it was | 13:48 |
| mpanetta | http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/administration/monitoring/ | 13:49 |
| malini | let me try to find my old login | 13:49 |
| mpanetta | You may want to run mongotop on all 3 RS members when doing the test | 13:49 |
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| mpanetta | Also you could port forward the http console back to yourself | 13:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/91565 | 13:50 |
| malini | is mongotop similar to top? | 13:50 |
| mpanetta | It displays all the reads and writes | 13:51 |
| mpanetta | I think it may show lock times as well | 13:51 |
| mpanetta | The link above talks about it | 13:51 |
| malini | sriram: can you configure mongotop on our RS? | 13:52 |
| sriram | working on it | 13:52 |
| malini | thx!! | 13:52 |
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| mpanetta | sriram: Did you see the link I posted above with the different monitoring tools? | 13:54 |
| sriram | yep | 13:54 |
| malini | I can still see our servers & basic profiling data in the mms site | 13:54 |
| malini | looks like some of it might be free | 13:54 |
| mpanetta | Oh? | 13:54 |
| malini | I'll add mpanetta & sriram to the group we have | 13:54 |
| mpanetta | How do I access it? | 13:55 |
| malini | I'll add you & I think you'll get an email | 13:55 |
| mpanetta | Ok | 13:55 |
| mpanetta | yep got an email lol | 13:56 |
| malini | sriram, mpanetta: added you both to the group | 13:56 |
| malini | We will need to add our mongo servers to mms | 13:56 |
| malini | install mms client in mongo servers? | 13:56 |
| mpanetta | Hmmm | 13:58 |
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| mpanetta | sriram: Can you do that? | 13:59 |
| sriram | let me check on that, mongotop works on the individual boxes. I'm looking at connecting directly to the replica set | 13:59 |
| sriram | mpanetta: ok | 13:59 |
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| malini | mpanetta: does mongotop give more info than MMS would? | 14:00 |
| mpanetta | Doubtful | 14:00 |
| malini | wondering if it might be easier to set up MMS? | 14:00 |
| mpanetta | all you have to do to use mongotop is run it | 14:00 |
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| sriram | yeah, that works | 14:01 |
| sriram | need to connect to entire replica set at once. | 14:01 |
| malini | sriram: "need to connect to entire replica set at once." Can you do that ? | 14:02 |
| malini | I mean is it possible to do that? | 14:02 |
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| sriram | I'm looking at it now. it seems possible according to the docs | 14:02 |
| malini | hello kgriffs!! | 14:04 |
| malini | we have started doing the benchmarks today | 14:05 |
| malini | This is our first report http://166.78.249.105/benchmarks.html/20140501-1331/report.html | 14:05 |
| sriram | mpanetta: replica set seed name, does it refer to the primary? | 14:07 |
| mpanetta | I think it may be the name of the replica set | 14:08 |
| mpanetta | test-rs1 I believe is the name for the shard, the catalog will be catalog-rs1 | 14:08 |
| sriram | ok cool! :) | 14:09 |
| flwang | kgriffs: alcabrera: malini: ping | 14:15 |
| alcabrera | flwang: o/ | 14:15 |
| malini | sriram: can you run the tests again (after cleaning out the dbs), once you have mongo monitoring in place? | 14:16 |
| flwang | my travel is cancelled :( | 14:16 |
| malini | flwang: :( | 14:16 |
| alcabrera | noooo. :( | 14:16 |
| malini | sriram: I have a meeting with my boss in 10 minutes | 14:16 |
| flwang | I assume you guys understand the reason | 14:16 |
| sriram | flwang: :( | 14:17 |
| flwang | malini: sorry for the absence | 14:17 |
| sriram | malini: ok will do | 14:17 |
| alcabrera | flwang: I think so. you'll be missed! | 14:17 |
| mpanetta | Aww man, that sucks flwang :( | 14:17 |
| mpanetta | I wanted to get to meet you | 14:17 |
| flwang | sorry guys, it's bad i know | 14:18 |
| flwang | Survey: anybody is using Mac OS as development environment? | 14:26 |
| alcabrera | xubuntu 13.10 here. | 14:26 |
| sriram | I tried, but shifted to linux. | 14:27 |
| flwang | thanks, guys, I'm wondering if i should shift to Mac, seems the answer is no | 14:28 |
| alcabrera | I think kgriffs is using mac os | 14:28 |
| amitgandhi | flwang: some ppl here use a mac but install linux on it | 14:29 |
| amitgandhi | i run it with osx | 14:29 |
| sriram | mac runs a different version of python, also having multiple installations of python can be a pain on mac.. macports,pythonbrew lots of customizations.. | 14:29 |
| amitgandhi | yeh you need to install homebrew to get the initial configuration set up | 14:30 |
| amitgandhi | but then once you have virtualenv it tends to be ok | 14:31 |
| flwang | now I'm using Thindpad x230 and installed devstack + eclipse + pydev as my dev env, now I'm thinking if Mac is good os for openstack development | 14:31 |
| amitgandhi | but sometimes updating osx to the next major version messes with the python | 14:31 |
| flwang | amitgandhi: thanks a lot | 14:31 |
| flwang | and ubuntu 12.04 to get devstack worked perfect | 14:32 |
| sriram | amitgandhi: how do you deal with multiple python versions on a mac? 2.7 and 3.3 | 14:33 |
| sriram | I couldnt get tox to work properly on a mac. :| | 14:33 |
| amitgandhi | sriram: havent had to deal with that yet =P | 14:33 |
| alcabrera | sriram, amitgandhi: I hope it's like working with py2/py3 on linux. python3.3 gets symlinked as python3.3 and python3 on the path and python2.7 gets symlinked as python, python2, and python2.7 | 14:34 |
| flwang | another question, can Mac work with Mac OS + Ubuntu perfectly? | 14:34 |
| alcabrera | similarly, I also have symlinks for python2.6 and python3.4, as well as pypy and pypy3 | 14:34 |
| sriram | flwang: yeah you can dual boot using rEFIt | 14:36 |
| flwang | sriram: got it, thx | 14:36 |
| sriram | I had some problems with wifi in my earlier macbook, had to modify broadcom driver and build it from source :| | 14:37 |
| sriram | so wifi issues might be there, maybe its fixed with recent macbooks :) | 14:37 |
| flwang | thanks for the tips | 14:40 |
| sriram | http://166.78.249.105/benchmarks.html/mongo_log/mongo.log , the results of mongotop on the replica set while running a tsung test | 14:41 |
| kgriffs | sriram: do you use homebrew on your mac? | 14:47 |
| mpanetta | Oh man, those results suck :( | 14:49 |
| sriram | kgriffs: yep | 14:49 |
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| kgriffs | hmm, so do I. After brew install python and python3, tox should work | 14:51 |
| sriram | yeah, I must revisit it. This was some time ago | 14:51 |
| sriram | I ran into some weird errors and just switched to using linux. | 14:52 |
| kgriffs | oic. If you can share a gist with the errors or something I can help | 14:52 |
| sriram | sure, I'll try it out soon :) | 14:53 |
| mpanetta | sriram: You know what is weird about that log, even the reads are taking an insane amount of time. | 14:53 |
| mpanetta | To local oplog anyway | 14:54 |
| sriram | yeah.. something is going wrong somewhere | 14:54 |
| mpanetta | This is insanity | 14:54 |
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| alcabrera | malini, kgriffs, flwang, flaper87|afk: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi#How_does_Marconi_compare_to_oslo.messaging.3F -- I added a section detailing differences between Marconi and oslo.messaging | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | review requested. :) | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | the formatting is a little wonky | 15:07 |
| flwang | alcabrera: cool, thanks for working on this | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | I really want nested bullets in the wiki. :/ | 15:07 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: cool, I'll check it out | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | np | 15:08 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: ** | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | pfft | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | thanks, kgriffs! | 15:08 |
| * kgriffs hates mediawiki syntax | 15:08 | |
| alcabrera | much better | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | E_TOO_MUCH_MARKUP | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | E_EYE_BLEED | 15:09 |
| flwang | alcabrera: should we add a simple statement like: oslo.messaging is a python library, Marconi is a messaging service(via REST API)? | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | flwang: I may have expressed that as "oslo.messsaging is a library -- Marconi is an HTTP API". Do you feel this is clear enough? | 15:11 |
| flwang | alcabrera: yep, i missed that line :) | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | <random>Etcd looks like a pretty sweet replacement for much of what you might use zookeeper for.</random> | 15:12 |
| flwang | alcabrera: but TBH, I would like to highlight we're service | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera, balajiiyer, mpanetta: https://github.com/mailgun/vulcan | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | "connection and rate limiting" | 15:14 |
| alcabrera | flwang: "Marconi is a service over HTTP API" -- done. :) | 15:14 |
| flwang | alcabrera: awesome | 15:14 |
| alcabrera | kgriffs: more leaky buckets. :) | 15:16 |
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| cpallares | o/ | 15:41 |
| cpallares | Happy may day everyone! | 15:41 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: heya! | 15:41 |
| alcabrera | may today be may day | 15:41 |
| sriram | lol | 15:41 |
| cpallares | lol | 15:41 |
| * cpallares can't wait for may 4th and say may the 4th be with you | 15:42 | |
| * cpallares remembers alcabrera hasn't watched starwars | 15:42 | |
| alcabrera | lol | 15:43 |
| alcabrera | I got that, though, cpallares! :P | 15:44 |
| alcabrera | at 12:01am EDT, a Tweet will arrive in cpallares stream | 15:44 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: :D | 15:44 |
| alcabrera | "@cpallares May the 4th be with you." | 15:44 |
| cpallares | haha | 15:44 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: May's the best. There's also Geek Pride Day/Towel day/Discworld Day. | 15:45 |
| alcabrera | Towel Day? | 15:46 |
| cpallares | Towel day = Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy | 15:46 |
| alcabrera | oh! | 15:46 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: They take towels | 15:46 |
| cpallares | for nutrition and comfort | 15:46 |
| mpanetta | Discworld Day? | 15:46 |
| alcabrera | Discworld day makes me want to Postal. :) | 15:46 |
| alcabrera | *go Postal | 15:46 |
| mpanetta | I'm not familiar with that one | 15:47 |
| alcabrera | Discworld -- I believe that's a universe crafted by Terry Pratchet, mpanetta | 15:47 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: I looove the discworld series :D | 15:47 |
| alcabrera | Going Postal was one of the books in that universe | 15:47 |
| alcabrera | I've read just the one book, cpallares, but there's sooooo much to read. :D | 15:48 |
| mpanetta | I'm familiar with the books, just not what the day is for. | 15:48 |
| alcabrera | which is great | 15:48 |
| mpanetta | Oh! | 15:48 |
| mpanetta | I only read one... I think it was discworld, so long ago... | 15:48 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: they're so funny! I really like them | 15:48 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: you should read more of them :P | 15:48 |
| mpanetta | I know it was pratchett... | 15:48 |
| mpanetta | Hrm | 15:49 |
| * alcabrera imagines a whale being born in space, alongside a flowerpot, and both plumeting seconds after | 15:49 | |
| mpanetta | hah | 15:49 |
| alcabrera | that was the most memorable part of Hitchhiker's GttG for me. :) | 15:49 |
| mpanetta | Infinitely improbable heh | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | when is Dune Day? | 15:51 |
| alcabrera | when will the spices flow? | 15:51 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: aw that part is sad | 15:52 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: I like the babelfish part :P | 15:53 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: and also the part where he's in some weird jungle where space is distorted, I can't remember which book that one is in. | 15:54 |
| alcabrera | hahaha, the babelfish | 15:54 |
| alcabrera | "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_fish_%28The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy%29#Babel_fish" | 15:54 |
| alcabrera | lovely quotes there | 15:54 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: I don't remember that part. I do remember vaguely a planet of beds. :P | 15:55 |
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| cpallares | alcabrera: I googled it, it's the old man on the pole in Mostly Harmless. | 15:57 |
| alcabrera | beware of typos: Mostly Haremless -> Mostly Harmless -- a mistake I just made. :P | 15:58 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: hahaha | 15:58 |
| mpanetta | That is a fun one alcabrera | 15:59 |
| cpallares | mpanetta: which discworld novel did you read? | 16:01 |
| mpanetta | The first I think. I can't remember if it was discworld or ringworld though. | 16:01 |
| mpanetta | Or I am horribly confused | 16:01 |
| cpallares | mpanetta: The color of magic? | 16:02 |
| * mpanetta is running on like 3 hrs sleep | 16:02 | |
| mpanetta | Yes! | 16:02 |
| mpanetta | Ok, someone has apparently written a compatible replacement for MongoDB called TokuMX... | 16:03 |
| mpanetta | Hmm, or maybe it *IS* mongodb... but highly optimized.. | 16:04 |
| mpanetta | http://www.tokutek.com/products/tokumx-for-mongodb/ | 16:05 |
| alcabrera | it's some serious marketing. @_@ | 16:05 |
| alcabrera | I'm so dubious | 16:05 |
| mpanetta | Bleh *Patented* | 16:05 |
| alcabrera | like all my red flags have been set off | 16:05 |
| mpanetta | Yeah | 16:05 |
| mpanetta | Any time someone says *patented* in a flyer... | 16:05 |
| mpanetta | I go... Ok NEXT | 16:05 |
| alcabrera | yup | 16:06 |
| mpanetta | So what if it is patented... | 16:06 |
| mpanetta | Patented means jack all... heh | 16:06 |
| alcabrera | if anything, patented tells me that I have every reason to mistrust them, because they stand in the way of progress | 16:06 |
| mpanetta | Pretty much | 16:06 |
| alcabrera | show me a research paper, tell me how the development of your product contributed to Science, but don't tell me you used Secret Sauce | 16:07 |
| mpanetta | Exactly | 16:07 |
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| malini | heyy flaper87!! | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | hey :D | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | isn't it holiday in the US too? | 21:01 |
| malini | I havent seen you all day! But am not sure if it was bcoz of me not being here or you :D | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | I guess not | 21:01 |
| * flaper87 thought Labors day was a worldwide holiday | 21:01 | |
| malini | flaper87: you have a holiday today? | 21:01 |
| malini | US has a different labor day :D | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | oh, there you go | 21:01 |
| malini | its September 1 | 21:01 |
| malini | I dont know why | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | I was forced to leave home and do something away from my laptop | 21:02 |
| flaper87 | but I'm back now | 21:02 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:02 |
| malini | we have started running some benchmarks today | 21:02 |
| flaper87 | malini: AWESOME! | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | malini: using tsung? | 21:06 |
| malini | yes. | 21:06 |
| malini | http://166.78.249.105/benchmarks.html/20140501-1522/report.html | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | what criteria are we using ? | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | cool, thanks | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | malini: this is a single Marconi node, single mongodb node | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | right ? | 21:07 |
| malini | we need to do some tuning & hopefully can start sharing the numbers in ML next week | 21:07 |
| malini | flaper87: no :( | 21:07 |
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| malini | 4 webheads & a 3 node replica set | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | malini: dang | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | I... don't like these numbers | 21:08 |
| flaper87 | Lets organize a performance hackathon at the summit | 21:08 |
| malini | tht is a good idea! | 21:08 |
| flaper87 | we can use the developer's lounge and profile marconi | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | fix whatever can be fixed | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | and make it fast | 21:09 |
| malini | but it'll be good if we can do some tuning before that & start sharing the numbers | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | malini: TBH, I don't think anyone will pay attention to those numbers at this point | 21:10 |
| flaper87 | we're basically 1 week away from the summit | 21:10 |
| flaper87 | and folks are heads down in design sessions | 21:11 |
| malini | good point..everybody are busy polishing up their stuff | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | talks | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 21:11 |
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| mpanetta | Is it nap time yet? | 21:31 |
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| kgriffs | malini, flaper87|afk: those numbers look sort of wonky to me. Why is there such a huge difference between "highest 10sec mean" and "lowest 10sec mean" ? | 21:42 |
| kgriffs | malini: can we corroborate these numbers with a different tool like New Relic? | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chad Lung proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Fixing some spelling, grammar, etc in docs https://review.openstack.org/91705 | 23:57 |
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