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| NikitaKonovalov | Anyone here for StoryBoard meeting? | 15:00 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | krotscheck, ttx, SergeyLukjanov ^^ | 15:01 |
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| ttx | o/ | 15:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #startmeeting StoryBoard | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 9 15:02:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NikitaKonovalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | Agenda as always is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard | 15:03 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | #topic Roadmap(ttx) | 15:04 |
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| ttx | hey | 15:04 |
| ttx | So we had a high-level roadmap on the etherpad from the juno design summit session | 15:04 |
| ttx | I turned it into a wikipage for a bit more... permanence | 15:05 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Roadmap | 15:05 |
| ttx | First task is to <strike></strike> the items we have completed | 15:05 |
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| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: do you see anything that should be marked as completed? | 15:06 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I think "UI to find tasks assigned to you" is already implemented by krotscheck's commit | 15:06 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: thought so too, but the prod instance is not showing it? | 15:06 |
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| ttx | Second thing to note, I split what was MVP 1.2 on the etherpad into two slightly separate steps (1.2 and 1.2.1) | 15:08 |
| ttx | following a suggestion from mordred | 15:08 |
| ttx | that integrated projects could switch to using storyboard for blueprints sooner that they switch to using storyboard for bugs | 15:08 |
| ttx | (which makes sense, since launchpad blueprints are so horrible, while bugs are pretty decent) | 15:09 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | sounds resonable to me | 15:09 |
| ttx | so that lets us having a slightly shorter list at 1.2 | 15:09 |
| ttx | and prioritize in a useful way | 15:09 |
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| ttx | for example we don't need secret features or backport tasks for blueprints | 15:09 |
| ttx | OK, that's all I had on this topic | 15:10 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've noticed LP import before using for blueprints | 15:11 |
| NikitaKonovalov | what sohuld we import? | 15:11 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: it's a bit unclear | 15:12 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: basically I'm not 100% certain there is so much value to import from LP until we hit 1.2.1 | 15:13 |
| ttx | (integrated projects bugs) | 15:13 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ok, let's get back to that later | 15:13 |
| ttx | existing infra bugs and integrated projects blueprints may not have that much value to import | 15:13 |
| ttx | It's a discussion with those stakeholders | 15:14 |
| ttx | It's something we'll need to support for sure | 15:14 |
| ttx | just not entirely clear how critical it is for the various groups, so in which milestone it should land | 15:14 |
| ttx | hence the "?" on that line :) | 15:15 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | agree, we need to practice importing stuff at some point before big projects decide to move to SB | 15:15 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ok, next topic is specs | 15:16 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #topic Specs | 15:16 |
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| ttx | OK, let's try to find those in infra-specs | 15:16 |
| ttx | I'll add them to the agenda | 15:17 |
| ttx | OK, same list | 15:17 |
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| ttx | refreshed agenda page | 15:18 |
| ttx | i didn't get any review on the tags spec | 15:18 |
| ttx | I need to review the search spec | 15:19 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ttx: I've looked through the tags spec | 15:19 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I think we should also have tags for projects, so that a User could mark a project | 15:20 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: could you give an example of what you would use that for ? | 15:20 |
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| ttx | I'd rather have "project groups" to do random project grouping | 15:21 |
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| ttx | because i can't think of a project "tag" that wouldn't actually make sense as a project group instead | 15:22 |
| NikitaKonovalov | Let's say a User wants to tag all python-whateverclient project with a "client" tag | 15:22 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | and then subscribe to all stories that affect client libraries | 15:22 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: I think we should have a "client libraries" project group then | 15:22 |
| ttx | It makes sense to be centrally administered | 15:23 |
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| ttx | I fear if we allow random tagging of projects, they will end up with a long list of them | 15:23 |
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| ttx | we should rather identify the needs for grouping and provide them as project groups | 15:24 |
| ttx | "client" is a valid project group | 15:24 |
| ttx | as would be "infra" | 15:24 |
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| ttx | or "all-storyboard" | 15:24 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | that makes sense | 15:24 |
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| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: I guess we could implement projectgroups as project tags though, if we restrict tagging to admins | 15:25 |
| ttx | but I'd rather not overload the meaning of "tags" | 15:25 |
| NikitaKonovalov | agree let's keep tags for Stories only | 15:25 |
| ttx | a given project (code repo) will just be a part of a number of project groups. And if one group is missing, we should just create it | 15:26 |
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| ttx | havign them centrally administered will let us be coherent | 15:26 |
| ttx | (if we had a new client project somwhere, we'll add it to the clients projectgroup) | 15:26 |
| ttx | add* | 15:26 |
| ttx | anyway, I digress :) | 15:26 |
| NikitaKonovalov | at least we can create groups based on project prefix like openstack-infra/nodepool is definitlly going under openstack-infa group | 15:27 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: let's see if anything else on MVP1.1 needs a spec | 15:27 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: project groups maybe? | 15:28 |
| NikitaKonovalov | looks so | 15:28 |
| ttx | I seem to remember there were some bits of it already landed, though ? | 15:28 |
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| * ttx adds spec links to the roadmap | 15:29 | |
| NikitaKonovalov | There is an API that allows all necessary operations for project groups and projects inside those | 15:29 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | may be the load_projects script needs an update to create groups in a smarter way | 15:30 |
| NikitaKonovalov | and there is no UI at all | 15:30 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: ok, so probably not needing a spec if it's half-implmeented already | 15:30 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I think a Story should be enough to describe that | 15:31 |
| ttx | ack | 15:31 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #action NikitaKonovalov create a Story for Project Groups | 15:31 |
| ttx | updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Roadmap with links to specs | 15:32 |
| NikitaKonovalov | great | 15:32 |
| ttx | I guess we could add links to stories there too | 15:32 |
| NikitaKonovalov | so the next spec is for Search | 15:33 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've got some comments from krotscheck | 15:33 |
| ttx | i'll review it soon | 15:33 |
| NikitaKonovalov | the main thing missing there is "What should the query strings look like?" | 15:34 |
| ttx | ok, will keep an eye on that | 15:34 |
| NikitaKonovalov | We can postpone that until we have a quorum for a discussion | 15:34 |
| mordred | morning | 15:35 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 15:35 |
| NikitaKonovalov | so we have a spec for subscriptions | 15:36 |
| ttx | I like it | 15:37 |
| NikitaKonovalov | and it looks like the most complex | 15:37 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I guess we should wait for some reviews before implementing that | 15:41 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | Looks like that's all for the specs | 15:42 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #topic Ongoing work | 15:42 |
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| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: you go first | 15:42 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'm working on name fields validation | 15:43 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | The name fields of projects and project groups should be url friendly | 15:44 |
| NikitaKonovalov | So there is a bunch of changes to introduce that validation | 15:45 |
| NikitaKonovalov | and some testing for it | 15:45 |
| NikitaKonovalov | That's pretty much all from my side because I was a bit busy last week with my University graduation work | 15:46 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | And I guess I'll be for this week too | 15:47 |
| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: heh | 15:47 |
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| ttx | OK, on my side, I worked on the roadmap and need to work on spec review | 15:47 |
| ttx | I try to keep up with reviews | 15:47 |
| ttx | I might work on more documentation around the project, to clarify the intent and goals | 15:48 |
| ttx | and status | 15:48 |
| ttx | as there seems to be a bit of misunderstanding on that side | 15:48 |
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| ttx | EOF | 15:49 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | time for an open discussion | 15:49 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #topic Open discussion | 15:49 |
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| ttx | NikitaKonovalov: nothing to add | 15:51 |
| ttx | Thanks for running the meeting! | 15:51 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | we have holidays on Thursday and Friday in Russia this week | 15:51 |
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| ttx | I have a holiday today here. (don't ask) | 15:52 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ok | 15:52 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 9 15:52:26 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-09-15.02.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-09-15.02.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-09-15.02.log.html | 15:52 |
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