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jpich | #startmeeting Horizon | 16:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 16:00 |
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jpich | Hi, everyone o/ | 16:00 |
tzumainn | hiya! | 16:00 |
rdopieralski | hi | 16:00 |
santib | hi! | 16:00 |
gary-smith | hi | 16:00 |
yzuo | Hi | 16:00 |
Clu__ | Hi | 16:00 |
jrist | o/ | 16:00 |
jrist | hi jpich | 16:00 |
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jgravel | Hi | 16:01 |
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jcoufal | o/ | 16:01 |
crobertsrh | Hello | 16:01 |
jtomasek | hi | 16:01 |
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akrivoka | \o | 16:01 |
akrivoka | hey | 16:01 |
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lsmola__ | hola | 16:01 |
doug-fish | hi all | 16:01 |
lcheng | hello | 16:01 |
rhagarty | hi | 16:01 |
jpich | I'll be chairing the meeting this week too, David should be back for the next one | 16:02 |
jpich | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 16:02 |
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lblanchard | hi all | 16:02 |
jpich | #topic Juno-2 | 16:02 |
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jpich | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-2 | 16:02 |
jpich | I put this here because we usually have a general status/progress update but it's still early in the milestone | 16:03 |
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jpich | There's probably way too much in the milestone, though since many already have code for review please consider sparing a few cycles for reviews | 16:03 |
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jpich | especially for the higher priority stuff | 16:03 |
crobertsrh | +1 for reviews :) | 16:04 |
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jpich | #topic Reminder: Review Keystone spec that impacts Horizon | 16:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Reminder: Review Keystone spec that impacts Horizon (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:04 | |
jpich | lcheng? | 16:05 |
jpich | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96867/5/specs/juno/saml-web-authn.rst | 16:05 |
lcheng | crobertsrh: do you have something to help us visualize sahara dashboard? something like a demo video? | 16:05 |
jpich | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96648/ | 16:05 |
crobertsrh | sorry, that was something I meant to add to the blueprint the other day. I'll dig up 1 (or maybe more) youtube videos to link to | 16:05 |
jpich | lcheng: There's a Sahara related topic in the agenda, maybe we can dig into it then? | 16:05 |
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lcheng | jpich: oops, okay :-) | 16:06 |
jpich | lcheng: You put up the Keystone topic on the agenda, did you have anything to add or a general summary of what's happening to share? | 16:06 |
lcheng | yeah, so I just wanted everyone to be aware of those two patches | 16:06 |
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lcheng | it will impact horizon at some point when implemented | 16:06 |
lcheng | related to how horizon will support federation | 16:07 |
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jpich | I guess that will involve django_openstack_auth changes / blueprints of its own? | 16:07 |
lcheng | if anyone has some background in federation, it would be helpful to review those stuff and make sure it is feasible. | 16:08 |
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ericpeterson | definitely, also obtaining the scoped token too will change.... the navigation project picker | 16:08 |
lcheng | yes, eventually there would be a blueprint for horizon for that. | 16:08 |
jpich | That should be interesting... | 16:08 |
lcheng | at the moment, there are still hashing out the interaction between keystone, horizon and identity provider | 16:09 |
lcheng | anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. In case, anyone is interested in this topic. | 16:10 |
jpich | Thanks lcheng! Definitely important stuff to keep an eye on | 16:10 |
jpich | Questions or shall we move to the next topic? | 16:10 |
jpich | #topic Sahara merge | 16:11 |
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jpich | I put the topic in the agenda though crobertsrh can probably talk about it better than I can :-) | 16:11 |
crobertsrh | Sure. The merge is still largely stuck on reviews. | 16:11 |
jpich | What I learnt from the logs of the last Cross Project meeting is that the Sahara dashboard needs to merge in Horizon by j-2 or it won't get in at all | 16:11 |
jpich | which would suck | 16:11 |
jpich | One of Horizon's stated goals is that we support integrated projects out of the box | 16:12 |
jpich | So please, all review help is very much appreciated | 16:12 |
crobertsrh | Yes. We've had some good comments from people when they have looked at the code. We just need more of that. | 16:12 |
jpich | From what I can tell crobertsrh is very responsive to feedback :) (Thanks!) | 16:12 |
crobertsrh | Yes, I'm generally very nice :) | 16:12 |
crobertsrh | I did just add a link to a youtube video showing the sahara dashboard | 16:13 |
crobertsrh | ...to the blueprint | 16:13 |
crobertsrh | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ha_3oEcgJ8 | 16:13 |
jpich | Thanks! | 16:13 |
jpich | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/merge-sahara-dashboard | 16:13 |
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crobertsrh | If anyone has questions while reviewing. Please feel free to ping me directly anytime. It's my #1 priority right now, so I'll be happy to help any way I can. | 16:14 |
lcheng | crobertsrh: cool, thanks for that | 16:14 |
* akrivoka makes a note to look at Sahara stuff | 16:14 | |
jrist | :) | 16:14 |
tmazur | crobertsrh, thank you | 16:15 |
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jpich | Thanks, crobertsrh! | 16:15 |
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jpich | Anything else to add or questions? | 16:15 |
crobertsrh | Thanks in advance for all your +2's :) | 16:15 |
jpich | :P | 16:15 |
tmazur | crobertsrh, I still have a few questions so I think we could discuss it at review page | 16:15 |
crobertsrh | No problem. I constantly refresh my page of reviews. I'll be waiting for your questions, tmazur :) | 16:16 |
jpich | Cool | 16:17 |
jpich | #topic Horizon library name poll (rdopiera) | 16:17 |
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tmazur | crobertsrh, ok :) | 16:17 |
jpich | rdopieralski? | 16:17 |
jpich | Are you around? It was your topic | 16:18 |
* jpich voted but doesn't have a handy link to the results anymore | 16:18 | |
jcoufal | jpich: I think he is not around atm | 16:19 |
jcoufal | oh he is | 16:19 |
jcoufal | my bad | 16:19 |
tzumainn | http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_ea99af9511f3f255 | 16:19 |
tzumainn | has the results, I thikn | 16:19 |
* jcoufal is going to poke him :) | 16:19 | |
rdopieralski | jpich: I'm here | 16:19 |
tmazur | http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_ea99af9511f3f255 | 16:19 |
jpich | rdopieralski: woot | 16:19 |
jpich | Looks like the boring horizon_lib won :) | 16:19 |
jcoufal | booooriiing | 16:20 |
rdopieralski | so bascially the poll is here: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_ea99af9511f3f255 | 16:20 |
rdopieralski | and as you can see there is no dispute :) | 16:20 |
akrivoka | the more boring the better | 16:20 |
rdopieralski | I also don't think we need to check for trademark violation in this situation | 16:20 |
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jpich | Sounds reasonable to me :-) | 16:20 |
* jcoufal is sad that schwarzschild didn't make it :( | 16:20 | |
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rdopieralski | as an aside, and personal plug, the xstatic jquery patch is finally clear to be merged :) | 16:21 |
tqtran | wow.... horizon_lib... zzzz | 16:21 |
jrist | yay horizon_lib | 16:21 |
jpich | rdopieralski: Great, thanks! | 16:21 |
ericpeterson | horizon_lib_w_cheese ? | 16:21 |
rdopieralski | that's all, I'm going to write an e-mail about the end of voting to the mailing list | 16:21 |
tmazur | jcoufal, really? You like this? ^^ I was afraid nobody liked... | 16:21 |
mrunge | wtf. what a lame name. | 16:21 |
jpich | That's great, thanks | 16:21 |
doug-fish | ericpeterson: you should have submitted that earlier! | 16:21 |
jpich | rdopieralski: I think you can stay around since you proposed the next topic too :-) | 16:22 |
mrunge | who voted for that sh***? | 16:22 |
mrunge | and who proposed it? | 16:22 |
jrist | :) | 16:22 |
doug-fish | I confess to nothing. | 16:22 |
tmazur | mrunge, that was me ^^ | 16:22 |
rdopieralski | ok, so there was a question of whether we want to do a mid-cycle meeting | 16:22 |
jpich | And a majority of people voted for it | 16:23 |
rdopieralski | possibly with a sprint | 16:23 |
jpich | so that's it, ok rdopieralski is ahead of me with topics | 16:23 |
jpich | #topic Mid-cycle meeting? (rdopiera) | 16:23 |
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rdopieralski | and since finding the best time and place is a pain, there was a proposition to just meet at the sprint in Paris | 16:23 |
jpich | It's still a bit late to organise one though, since some key people will likely have to arrange travel halfway across the world to try and make it | 16:24 |
rdopieralski | the problem is, this is in 2 weeks | 16:24 |
rdopieralski | right | 16:24 |
rdopieralski | so I thought I will just throw it here for discussion | 16:24 |
jpich | while later is not really "mid-cycle" anymore | 16:24 |
rdopieralski | I've been told that RH would be happy to host a meeting in Brno | 16:25 |
tzumainn | can I ask what the focus of the mid-cycle meeting would be? | 16:26 |
jpich | The topic would also benefit from PTL input, it would be worthwhile poking him about it when he's back later this week | 16:26 |
rdopieralski | tzumainn: I have no idea :) | 16:26 |
jpich | I can see it as being useful for a focused team effort on the big things like the split and the sahara merge but it is late to be organising this | 16:26 |
tzumainn | rdopieralski, lol, but you'll buy the beers? :D | 16:27 |
jrist | I vote no on mid-cycle. Not enough significant changes? | 16:27 |
rdopieralski | tzumainn: I can buy some of the beers | 16:27 |
jpich | jrist: The split seems pretty significant and far reaching to me? | 16:27 |
jrist | fair point | 16:28 |
rdopieralski | I'm also working on a config change that is going to touch a lot of things | 16:28 |
rdopieralski | and feedback on that would be nice too | 16:28 |
rdopieralski | but we can do it online if you ask me | 16:28 |
jpich | rdopieralski: Maybe better to have the discussion on list so people who can't make it to this meeting can have some input too? | 16:28 |
rdopieralski | jpich: ok, I will send an e-mail | 16:28 |
jpich | Though if you don't believe there is a strong need for it either... :) | 16:29 |
jcoufal | tmazur: sorry, I got distracted by my colleague - yeah I love it :) | 16:29 |
jpich | rdopieralski: Ok, cool | 16:30 |
jcoufal | I personally would vote no for organising one and meet in Paris if we get people who can get there | 16:30 |
tmazur | jcoufal, :) | 16:30 |
jcoufal | so maybe question to the mailing list who would be willing and able to join Paris meetup? | 16:31 |
jpich | Sounds good, let's bring it up in the thread as well | 16:31 |
akrivoka | jcoufal: I agree, that makes sense | 16:31 |
ericpeterson | subquestion: will rdopieralski still owe us beer if we are in paris? | 16:32 |
tzumainn | might want to set an endpoint for responses as well | 16:32 |
rdopieralski | jcoufal: would you like to bring it up? I suck at human interaction :) | 16:32 |
jcoufal | ericpeterson: i think he can't take it back ;) | 16:32 |
jpich | #topic Reminder: Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64103/, basis for additional cinder work (gary-smith) | 16:32 |
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gary-smith | Just a reminder there to review that change when you can | 16:32 |
jcoufal | rdopieralski: you want to take the initiative to write the email to the ML or should I do that? | 16:32 |
rdopieralski | ericpeterson: only if I'm also there | 16:32 |
rdopieralski | jcoufal: it would be great if you could do it | 16:33 |
jcoufal | rdopieralski: I see now, yes, I can do that | 16:33 |
rdopieralski | jcoufal: sorry | 16:33 |
jcoufal | sorry for interrupting another topic already | 16:33 |
jrist | will do | 16:33 |
jpich | gary-smith: What is it blocking? | 16:33 |
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gary-smith | another blueprint I have to implement qos-specs | 16:33 |
gary-smith | which is intended to use the same type of UI interaction, and I wanted to verify that the approach in the change was acceptable before building on it | 16:34 |
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jpich | Sounds reasonable, do you have a link to the other blueprint as well? | 16:34 |
jpich | ah, here it is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/cinder-qos-specs | 16:35 |
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gary-smith | you beat me to it | 16:35 |
santib | gary-smith: I'm working on a blueprint to create a generic widget to add key=value pairs metadata or extra specs: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/key-value-metadata-widget | 16:35 |
gary-smith | santib: when is that planned? | 16:35 |
gary-smith | sorry, I see: juno-3 | 16:36 |
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jpich | Perhaps you could collaborate on it so that it's ready early enough for gary-smith to build his work on top of it? | 16:37 |
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gary-smith | sounds reasonable, presuming there are no objections to santib's approach | 16:37 |
santib | jpich: definitely. I've already submitted a patch. no objections at all :) | 16:37 |
jpich | I haven't look at the patch yet but it is something we do want to genericise/widgetise | 16:38 |
jpich | santib: Ah nice! Thanks | 16:38 |
santib | jpich: u r welcome. | 16:38 |
jpich | I see there's some feedback already | 16:38 |
gary-smith | regardless, my cinder peers are interested in having that extra-specs patch land for their users | 16:38 |
santib | jpich: there is. I'm already working on it | 16:38 |
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jpich | santib: Great! | 16:39 |
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jpich | gary-smith: I understand. You can help review santib's patch and perhaps rebase yours on top of it, if it makes sense? I've added the patch to my List Of Things To Review, hopefully it'll also get some core attention shortly | 16:41 |
jpich | Anything else on this? | 16:41 |
gary-smith | jpich, will do | 16:41 |
jpich | Cheers | 16:41 |
jpich | #topic Specs repo - do we want it? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037797.html (akrivoka) | 16:41 |
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akrivoka | I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on having a horizon-specs repo | 16:41 |
rdopieralski | akrivoka: that would replace blueprints, right? | 16:42 |
akrivoka | many other projects have already introduced a specs repo | 16:42 |
jpich | That's another one I was waiting for our esteemed PTL to return, I know there was a discussion at some point | 16:42 |
jpich | I think the conclusion was that the specs system is fairly heavyweight and seems to make more sense in terms of creating/designing new APIs | 16:42 |
akrivoka | rdopieralski: not replace BPs - my understanding is that it would introduce a formal review process for BPs | 16:42 |
rdopieralski | akrivoka: I see, thanks | 16:43 |
akrivoka | jpich: oh, was there a discussion already? I must have missed it | 16:43 |
jpich | Many of our blueprints tend to be straightforward and along the lines of adding support for something that already exists | 16:43 |
jpich | akrivoka: I did too, which is why I was hoping to get david-lyle's take/summary on it :) | 16:43 |
akrivoka | jpich: ok, that sounds good, let's see what he has to say about it when he returns | 16:44 |
jpich | Still worth voicing opinions if people feel strongly one way or the other? | 16:44 |
akrivoka | absolutely, everyone feel free to chime in on the ML: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037797.html | 16:44 |
tzumainn | I will say that the spec review cycle in tripleo is pretty long, so it does feel like it adds a considerable amount of time - but that may be appropriate for certain blueprints | 16:45 |
absubram_ | I think managing blueprint ideas via gerrit is actually nice.. just like a code review - it makes it easier to post questions/commetns and approve/disapprove.. even for non-cores to comment :) | 16:45 |
jpich | Although I can't wait for Storyboard to be there in order to have proper history/subscriptions for blueprints, it seems too heavyweight for Horizon at this point | 16:45 |
jpich | absubram_: I hope everyone feels like they can comment on regular blueprints currently too, comments/feedback/thoughts are always quite welcome | 16:46 |
gary-smith | I prefer the current lightweight approach, too, especially since it already takes a while to get bp's approved as it is | 16:46 |
jpich | I guess we can collect our varied opinions in the ML thread and see what happens next :) | 16:47 |
jpich | #topic Open Discussion | 16:47 |
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akrivoka | jpich: +1 | 16:47 |
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rdopieralski | I just wanted to mention that we have a new person working on Horizon from today | 16:48 |
rdopieralski | Please say hi to regebro_ | 16:48 |
tzumainn | hiya regebro_! | 16:49 |
regebro_ | Hi all! | 16:49 |
akrivoka | hello regebro_ ! | 16:49 |
doug-fish | Hi regebro_! | 16:49 |
boltR | hi regebro_ | 16:49 |
jcoufal | heya regebro_ | 16:49 |
absubram_ | jpich: in the current launchpad mechanism.. for bp unlike bugs, there isn't a comment section no? Unless one adds comments to the whiteboard I suppose.. anyway.. we can have the discussion in the thread that's out :) | 16:49 |
lcheng | welcome regebro_ | 16:49 |
absubram_ | hey reg | 16:49 |
jpich | absubram_: Yeah the whiteboard is for discussion, just people need to remember to add their names when they make a comment | 16:49 |
jpich | cf last of history | 16:50 |
clu_ | hi regebro_! | 16:50 |
absubram_ | gotcha | 16:50 |
jpich | welcome regebro_ and all the new contributors we've been having lately :) It's awesome. Please do lots of reviews :-) | 16:50 |
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jpich | er I meant "lack of history" | 16:50 |
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jpich | Anything else anyone wanted to discuss / bring up / highlight / chat about ? | 16:52 |
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* jpich cautiously starts hoping we'll finish a meeting before the full hour for once | 16:52 | |
rdopieralski | bye | 16:53 |
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jpich | So efficient :-) | 16:53 |
ericpeterson | good job jpich, I think your wish is granted | 16:53 |
jpich | \o/ | 16:53 |
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jpich | Thanks everyone! Chat next week | 16:53 |
akrivoka | bye everyone! | 16:53 |
gary-smith | bye | 16:53 |
jpich | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:53 | |
tmazur | Thank you jpish! | 16:53 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 17 16:53:57 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
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tzumainn | thanks all! | 16:54 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-06-17-16.00.html | 16:54 |
akrivoka | \o | 16:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-06-17-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-06-17-16.00.log.html | 16:54 |
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jgravel | bye | 16:54 |
tmazur | Bye all! | 16:54 |
lblanchard | bye all! | 16:54 |
jrist | o/ | 16:54 |
absubram_ | bye! | 16:54 |
lcheng | thanks jpich! | 16:54 |
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pballand | hello | 17:01 |
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rajdeep | hi | 17:01 |
kudva | hello | 17:01 |
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banix | hi | 17:01 |
pballand | lets give thinrichs one minute | 17:02 |
pballand | !startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:03 |
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pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 17 17:03:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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pballand | I think thinrichs will be a bit late | 17:03 |
pballand | so lets get started | 17:04 |
pballand | agenda: | 17:04 |
pballand | - Reviews: sarob, banix, pballand | 17:04 |
pballand | - sarob: worked on getting processes in place | 17:04 |
pballand | - rajdeep: looked into ceilometer | 17:04 |
pballand | - use cases | 17:04 |
pballand | - pballand's API progress | 17:04 |
pballand | - thinrich's integration progress | 17:04 |
pballand | - skn_ adds data sources to use case doc | 17:04 |
pballand | #topic Code Reviews | 17:04 |
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pballand | we are starting to get behind on code reviews - it would be really helpful if people could pitch in | 17:05 |
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banix | I did some really first glance reviews. Will spend more time this week. | 17:05 |
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* banix blames the world cup! | 17:05 | |
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pballand | hehe | 17:06 |
pballand | I’ve been guilty of this as well, but trying to get better | 17:06 |
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pballand | #topic Action item review | 17:06 |
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pballand | sarob: you around? | 17:07 |
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cloudtoa_ | ping | 17:07 |
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pballand | rajdeep_: you were going to look in to ceilometer - any updates? | 17:07 |
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rajdeep_ | pballand : did some research on attributes available in ceilometer | 17:08 |
rajdeep_ | and how to access them -- | 17:08 |
rajdeep_ | created a doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/17IFyQLhwJRvvS0PYWLWlurH4o845YuLvu07K6TryrUg/edit#heading=h.nztjf141izg0 | 17:08 |
rajdeep_ | we should be able to get the information sergio wants through APIs | 17:08 |
rajdeep_ | i created some samples to test this | 17:09 |
kudva | Where can I see the samples? | 17:09 |
rajdeep_ | https://github.com/rajdeepd/openstack-samples/tree/master/lab1/ceilometersamples | 17:10 |
rajdeep_ | currently i am getting a dump of the attributes listed in the doc | 17:10 |
rajdeep_ | we could do some smart querying also where ever applicable | 17:11 |
cloudtoa_ | Can ceilometer publish to mq? | 17:11 |
kudva | so I see you are exercising the apis. How does this connect to the data store? | 17:11 |
pballand | how frequently does ceilometer publish messages (in production)? | 17:12 |
rajdeep_ | which data store? | 17:12 |
kudva | The congress data tables | 17:13 |
kudva | I mean what is the integration between Ceilometer API and Congress | 17:13 |
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rajdeep_ | kudva : we will have to write the driver to get this data converted to tuples | 17:14 |
rajdeep_ | pballand : that depends on the meter type and the default frequency set | 17:14 |
kudva | rajdeep_: okay got it | 17:14 |
rajdeep_ | i guess the rate at which metrics are collected could be altered - though i have not tried that yet | 17:14 |
cloudtoa_ | rajdeep_: Can ceilometer publish to oslo.messaging or AMQP? | 17:15 |
rajdeep_ | i think it does | 17:15 |
pballand | rajdeep_: great, are you planning any next steps? | 17:16 |
rajdeep_ | here is the design doc explaining in more detail | 17:16 |
rajdeep_ | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/architecture.html | 17:17 |
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rajdeep_ | pballand : it depends on how we want to prioritize | 17:17 |
rajdeep_ | shoud we write a driver for ceilometer | 17:17 |
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kudva | rajdeep_: I have worked some with Ceilometer, and written code using the apis, I can help | 17:18 |
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rajdeep_ | deisgn doc recommends using API rather than messaging | 17:18 |
pballand | it seems like people were interested in that from a use case perspective - anyone else have thoughts? | 17:18 |
rajdeep_ | kudva : | 17:18 |
cloudtoa_ | I am working on an oslo.messaging plugin for Congress... this could be used to subscribe to ceilometer events. | 17:18 |
kudva | rajdeep_: yes definitely api's, ceilometer uses the notifications | 17:19 |
rajdeep_ | that is great, why don't you start creating a design doc for the ceilometer driver | 17:19 |
cloudtoa_ | ok | 17:19 |
kudva | rajdeep_: I can do that, but I need to understand the driver side better. | 17:19 |
kudva | rajdeep_: from you | 17:19 |
kudva | rajdeep_: not familiar with the congress data drivers | 17:19 |
rajdeep_ | kudva : you could start looking at the data integration design doc as well as neutron and nova drivers | 17:20 |
kudva | rajdeep_: okay, can you remind me again the links | 17:20 |
rajdeep_ | to get a better idea | 17:20 |
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kudva | rajdeep_: for the docs | 17:20 |
kudva | rajdeep_: I can find the code | 17:21 |
pballand | I know thinrichs has been working on integrating the data source drivers with the DSE runtime as well… | 17:21 |
pballand | cloudtoa_: how much will the oslo.messaging change things? | 17:22 |
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cloudtoa_ | Well, it means we'll be able to subscribe to notifications or other pub'd data on whatever MQ is being used. | 17:22 |
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cloudtoa_ | Across multiple OpenStack clouds. | 17:23 |
cloudtoa_ | Oslo does a great job of abstracting the MQ stuff. | 17:23 |
rajdeep | kudva : link to the doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K9RkQuBSPN7Z2TmKfok7mw3E24otEGo8Pnsemxd5544/edit | 17:23 |
pballand | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K9RkQuBSPN7Z2TmKfok7mw3E24otEGo8Pnsemxd5544/edit | 17:24 |
sarob_ | sorry im late | 17:24 |
pballand | sarob_: no problem - was going to ask you to provide an update on the process | 17:24 |
pballand | (blueprints, etc) | 17:24 |
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kudva | rajdeep: thanks! | 17:25 |
kudva | rajdeep: how can I contact you with questions? | 17:25 |
rajdeep | kudva : you can mail me : rajdeepd at vmware dot com | 17:25 |
sarob_ | okay | 17:25 |
sarob_ | ready now? | 17:25 |
pballand | yep | 17:25 |
kudva | rajdeep: okay, thanks will be in touch | 17:26 |
sarob_ | here i go | 17:26 |
sarob_ | we are setup up launchpad https://launchpad.net/congress | 17:26 |
sarob_ | #link https://launchpad.net/congress | 17:26 |
sarob_ | set us on the juno series with the next milestone as juno-2 | 17:27 |
sarob_ | 24july | 17:27 |
sarob_ | we specs to get pushed, reviewed, and merged | 17:27 |
sarob_ | so we can start assigning blueprints to the juno-2 milestone | 17:27 |
sarob_ | its openstack scrumy | 17:28 |
sarob_ | or as close as it gets | 17:28 |
sarob_ | without storyboard | 17:28 |
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sarob_ | so questions, commennts? | 17:29 |
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pballand | sarob_: thanks for pushing that forward | 17:29 |
sarob_ | sure | 17:29 |
cloudtoa_ | sarob_: We have our own IRC channel now? Will future meetings be there? | 17:30 |
pballand | I don’t think there is logging on that channel, so meetings should stay here | 17:31 |
sarob_ | id recommend keeping the meeting as it | 17:31 |
sarob_ | and using the congress channel for non meeting technical discussions | 17:31 |
pballand | any other questions on process before we move on to use cases? | 17:31 |
sarob_ | thats how most others do it | 17:31 |
cloudtoa_ | Excellent. | 17:31 |
rajdeep | should we convert the design docs to blueprints? | 17:31 |
sarob_ | this is what i wrote up #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides#Create_a_Blueprint | 17:32 |
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sarob_ | for training-guides project | 17:32 |
sarob_ | i think it works for congress too | 17:32 |
sarob_ | altho we have #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExDmT06vDZjzOPePYBqojMRfXodvsk0R8nRkX-zrkSw/edit# to help with the spec ideas | 17:33 |
sarob_ | we need more people than sarob and banix | 17:34 |
sarob_ | to review the use cases gdoc | 17:34 |
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pballand | on that topic, it seems that momentum has stalled on updating use cases | 17:34 |
pballand | we are still looking for votes on topics | 17:34 |
sarob_ | i can start the spec patches for the ones with the most votes | 17:34 |
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pballand | sarob_: that would be great - although right now most use cases are tied with one vote :) | 17:35 |
sarob_ | pballand can you take a vote on a few? | 17:35 |
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pballand | will do | 17:36 |
pballand | #action pballand to review and vote on use cases | 17:36 |
sarob_ | thinrichs two | 17:36 |
pballand | does anyone have something to discuss related to use cases? | 17:37 |
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sarob_ | ill start patches once i get any with a few votes for review | 17:37 |
sarob_ | we can bypass this extra step pretty quickly | 17:37 |
sarob_ | and just go straight to spec patches for debate through gerrit review | 17:38 |
skn_ | Hi Guys, sorry, I’m late. | 17:38 |
pballand | skn_: hi - glad you could make it | 17:38 |
sarob_ | hallo | 17:38 |
pballand | we were just talking about use cases | 17:38 |
banix | sarob_: makes sense | 17:38 |
pballand | skn_: you had mentioned that you were going to add data sources to the use case doc - any progress on this or other topics? | 17:39 |
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skn_ | I have some write up on the data sources for the security use cases that I have not been able to update to the main doc | 17:39 |
sarob_ | you know what, pballand after you take a look at the use cases/user stories | 17:39 |
sarob_ | i will just go ahead can create all the spec patches | 17:39 |
skn_ | Yes, I’ve some stuff that I’m going to put in within the next couple days | 17:39 |
sarob_ | and we can discontinue this gdoc as extra step | 17:39 |
pballand | sarob_: that would be great - I’ll set aside time this afternoon | 17:39 |
sarob_ | pballand how about i copy #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides#Create_a_Blueprint to the congress wiki | 17:40 |
skn_ | sarob: so, the plan is to update just the spec and we get rid of the gdoc? | 17:40 |
sarob_ | idea -> spec -> blueprint process | 17:40 |
sarob_ | skn_ right | 17:41 |
pballand | sarob_: sure - can you annotate the google doc link as deprecated at the same time? | 17:41 |
sarob_ | pballand will do plus add URLs for reviews | 17:41 |
sarob_ | ive deprecated use of trello for the training team as well | 17:42 |
sarob_ | in favor of spec, blueprints | 17:42 |
sarob_ | so we are more similar to rest of openstack projects | 17:42 |
skn_ | Makes sense | 17:43 |
pballand | sarob_: thanks for keeping us on track there | 17:43 |
sarob_ | ;) | 17:44 |
skn_ | sarob: what’s the difference between a spec and a blueprint | 17:44 |
sarob_ | skn_ spec is the pre-blueprint development | 17:45 |
skn_ | that’s kind of clear, what additional stuffs do we need for the bp? | 17:45 |
sarob_ | skn_ your idea get explained by filling out the spec template | 17:45 |
sarob_ | skn_ saved as RST and pushed as gerrit patch | 17:46 |
banix | i think bp mainly helps with having milestones and tracking them etc | 17:46 |
sarob_ | skn_ then reviewers debate the idea merits | 17:46 |
sarob_ | skn_ clean it up some | 17:46 |
banix | specs mainly says what is to be done, the specification of proposed changes/additions; and review can be done efficiently | 17:47 |
skn_ | banix: thanks | 17:47 |
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sarob_ | skn_ if approved then the merged patch info finishes out a blueprint and it gets approved for a milestone | 17:47 |
skn_ | sarob: I think I understand the spec part now, was curious to know what more for the BP | 17:47 |
skn_ | Got it | 17:47 |
pballand | really quickly on the API front, I have stubbed out the commands from the design doc, and will push to review soon. For the alpha, I am planning on calling in to the policy engine directly for the data (policy engine as source-of-truth), and will refactor calls over message bus later | 17:48 |
pballand | #topic open discussion | 17:48 |
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thinrichs | Hi all--sorry I'm so late. | 17:49 |
thinrichs | I've made progress on integrating the DSE, policy engine, and data sources. | 17:49 |
thinrichs | I now have a test that spins up two mocked up versions of Neutron, writes a policy over them, and we see reasonable results. | 17:49 |
cloudtoa_ | Sweet! | 17:50 |
rajdeep | that is great! | 17:50 |
skn_ | thinrichs: great | 17:50 |
thinrichs | Next step I'll try is getting rid of the mocks and talking to actual Neutron/Nova instances. | 17:50 |
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thinrichs | There will be a few more change-sets to review. I'll let you know when they're ready. | 17:51 |
pballand | thinrichs: cool! | 17:52 |
pballand | thinrichs: sarob_ and I signed you up for voting on use cases | 17:52 |
sarob_ | so i can start creating spec patches | 17:52 |
thinrichs | There are a few more changes we'll need to hook up to the API (assigning IDs for rules, etc.). But should be straightforward. | 17:52 |
sarob_ | we need #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94692/ merged first though | 17:52 |
skn_ | pballand: how do I sign up to vote? | 17:52 |
thinrichs | pballand, sarob_: by all means | 17:53 |
thinrichs | I'm happy to vote. | 17:53 |
sarob_ | review #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExDmT06vDZjzOPePYBqojMRfXodvsk0R8nRkX-zrkSw/edit#heading=h.fbota2qx0jad | 17:53 |
pballand | skn_: just put your name on the google doc :) | 17:53 |
skn_ | oh ok | 17:53 |
sarob_ | and i will create the spec patches from the gdoc | 17:53 |
thinrichs | I took a quick look at the doc--are there plans to add the requisite data sources? | 17:53 |
thinrichs | sarob_: great! | 17:53 |
sarob_ | thinrichs we can add that either in the gdoc | 17:54 |
sarob_ | thinrichs: and i will write it up in the first patch | 17:54 |
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sarob_ | thinrichs: or you can add to the patch after I push the first version | 17:54 |
thinrichs | So the votes are for what I like, not necessarily what's technically easiest to get into place? That the idea? | 17:54 |
sarob_ | thinrichs: either | 17:54 |
skn_ | I only see votes from sarob and banix in this gdoc | 17:54 |
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skn_ | pballand: where are yours? Or, am I seeing the wronggdoc? | 17:55 |
sarob_ | thinrichs: change up what is written and add more user stories/use cases | 17:55 |
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pballand | skn_: I haven’t voted yet | 17:55 |
skn_ | pballand: got it | 17:55 |
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thinrichs | sarob_: right--I forgot to add our basic use case, didn't I? I'll try to get that done as well. | 17:56 |
sarob_ | sweet | 17:56 |
sarob_ | ill plan on spec patches later today | 17:56 |
skn_ | pballand: Can we add the slides that you used in OS summit to the congress wiki page? | 17:56 |
pballand | skn_: yeah, I can do that | 17:57 |
skn_ | Or, are they already there? | 17:57 |
thinrichs | How about we link to the OS summit page? | 17:57 |
skn_ | Ok | 17:57 |
skn_ | Do we have the slides there in the summit page, or just the video? | 17:57 |
thinrichs | Or is it easy to upload arbitrary files to the wiki? | 17:57 |
pballand | the slides are linked from the etherpad from the summit | 17:57 |
banix | not easy to upload files last i tried to do that | 17:58 |
skn_ | Then, may be we can add links to the etherpad and the video | 17:58 |
sarob_ | linking somewhere else is prob besetg | 17:58 |
skn_ | Could you please just add these two links, pballand? | 17:59 |
pballand | we’re collecting quite a few links on the wiki - does it make sense to add it there? | 17:59 |
skn_ | Yeah, in the wiki. I don’t think it makes sense to do that in any gdoc | 17:59 |
pballand | ok | 18:00 |
pballand | out of time | 18:00 |
thinrichs | Maybe it's time for subheadings on the links, or something. | 18:00 |
pballand | any last workds? | 18:00 |
sarob_ | btw, there is a few reviews lining up #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/congress,n,z | 18:00 |
pballand | words | 18:00 |
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pballand | ok, we’ll be in #congress | 18:00 |
sarob_ | all for me | 18:00 |
pballand | thanks all! | 18:00 |
skn_ | bye everyone | 18:00 |
pballand | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 17 18:00:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-06-17-17.03.html | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-06-17-17.03.txt | 18:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-06-17-17.03.log.html | 18:00 |
rajdeep_ | bye | 18:00 |
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briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 17 19:00:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:01 |
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briancurtin | anyone here for the SDK meeting? | 19:02 |
briancurtin | Brian Curtin, Rackspace | 19:02 |
terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:02 |
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Alex_Gaynor | Alex Gaynor, Rackspace | 19:02 |
dtroyer_zz | Dean Troyer, Nebula | 19:03 |
jamielennox | Jamie Lennox, Red Hat | 19:03 |
briancurtin | let's get started | 19:03 |
briancurtin | #topic the "openstack.*" namespace | 19:04 |
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briancurtin | there was a little talk about this last week, and terrylhowe mentioned to me some thoughts dtroyer_zz had, and i agree... | 19:04 |
briancurtin | i dont know that we can squat on the openstack.* namespace without potentially hurting ourselves with server-side adoption | 19:05 |
edleafe | Ed Leafe, Rackspace (late as usual!) | 19:05 |
briancurtin | (and potentially other things) | 19:05 |
briancurtin | oh i guess i should send the agenda, sorry: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2014-06-17_1900_UTC | 19:05 |
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briancurtin | dtroyer_zz brought up the situation where, e.g., if Heat wants to eventually move from python-glanceclient to our (currently named) openstack.image, can they do that? can every service like that do it? | 19:07 |
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Alex_Gaynor | I don't think anything else uses a toplevel openstack namespace right now? | 19:07 |
jamielennox | i think they can | 19:07 |
Alex_Gaynor | Does oslo? | 19:07 |
jamielennox | i'm not aware of anything it would conflict with | 19:07 |
dtroyer_zz | openstack.common is used by oslo-incubator | 19:08 |
jamielennox | Alex_Gaynor: no | 19:08 |
jamielennox | dtroyer_zz: but that's always in the directory.... oh | 19:08 |
dtroyer_zz | I don't know of any existing conflicts, but I think we should be mindful of not assuming we have the whole thing to ourselves | 19:08 |
edleafe | Wouldn't the worse case scenario be they do something like `import openstack as ossdk`? | 19:08 |
jamielennox | hmmm | 19:08 |
briancurtin | -infinity to building an entire project and then telling people to import it as something else | 19:09 |
jamielennox | no the case would be having openstack from oslo in your projects root and that overriding import openstack | 19:09 |
jamielennox | you would need __futures__ everywhere? | 19:09 |
briancurtin | i like the idea of having openstack.*, but i think dtroyer_zz is right that we probably can't assume it's ours just because most/all don't use it...unless it got some official blessing, which we're nowhere near | 19:10 |
dtroyer_zz | it just easier to fix now than in a month or three…but if we don't care then we should write that down, and why, so we don't re-visit it as new people come along... | 19:11 |
Alex_Gaynor | Who would be the arbiters of if we can / should use taht namespace? | 19:11 |
dtroyer_zz | Alex_Gaynor: the TC is the only central jurisdiction like that, and they may not want to care…pragmatically it's first-come | 19:12 |
dtroyer_zz | until someone with a bigger stick wants your space | 19:12 |
Alex_Gaynor | Unless folks think oslo-inccubator has a strong claim to the name; I think we should just roll with it. dhellmann can you weigh in? | 19:13 |
jamielennox | I say we stick with it | 19:13 |
briancurtin | i would like to stick with it, or at least stick with it for right now. if we need to come back to it before this goes big-time and make it openstack.sdk.foo, it's not the end of the world | 19:14 |
briancurtin | something to think about, for sure | 19:14 |
dtroyer_zz | ok, now that it's logged, we can point to it the next time someone asks ;) | 19:14 |
briancurtin | is it worth raising the question of the openstack namespace on openstack-dev? | 19:15 |
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Alex_Gaynor | No clue, that list is soooo high traffic :-) | 19:17 |
briancurtin | ehh, i'll think about it, or come back to it after we've stewed on it for a bit | 19:17 |
briancurtin | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99456/ - Important changes for service filtering | 19:17 |
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terrylhowe | I was hoping jamielennox could take a look at that | 19:18 |
terrylhowe | It is all about combining what service the resource wants with what service the user wants | 19:18 |
jamielennox | terrylhowe: hmm - this was the advantage to just using a dictionary and kwargs | 19:19 |
jamielennox | join and setdefault are easy | 19:19 |
Alex_Gaynor | Personally I try to avoid dicts with specific sets of keys, it makes documenting them difficult | 19:20 |
jamielennox | why are you putting it into the Session? | 19:21 |
terrylhowe | so the session can get the right endpoint | 19:21 |
jamielennox | oh, ok you're essentially doing the adapters part | 19:22 |
terrylhowe | those are the user preferences, most likely just region and service_name | 19:22 |
jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86237/4 is how i was going to do it for the existing clients | 19:23 |
jamielennox | though it's possibly not appropriate here | 19:23 |
jamielennox | s/possibly/probably | 19:24 |
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terrylhowe | that would add a whole new layer | 19:25 |
jamielennox | yea, it's kind of necessary when you have multiple clients sharing the session, here because it's just us we can probably squash them | 19:26 |
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jamielennox | ok - so the main thing is you don't appear to deal with region_name in join(), and do we get weird situations when people supply a service_name to the session | 19:29 |
briancurtin | just saw Alex_Gaynor's comment - good point | 19:29 |
terrylhowe | well, the join is to user preferences, so it uses the users region and service_name | 19:30 |
jamielennox | oh - join overrides, something feels a little off there, but ok | 19:30 |
terrylhowe | I didn’t want to alter the current filter. | 19:30 |
jamielennox | it means though that you can't say visibility=ADMIN on the preference | 19:31 |
terrylhowe | yeh, the thing works, I’m not thrilled with it either to be honest | 19:31 |
jamielennox | for example | 19:31 |
jamielennox | terrylhowe: i agree with Alex_Gaynor, and we can come back and fix this - but mark it as a FIXME or something to address later | 19:32 |
terrylhowe | I though the resource would dictate visibility | 19:32 |
jamielennox | terrylhowe:well ADMIN is a bad example, but INTERNAL might be something you would set globally | 19:32 |
terrylhowe | okay | 19:33 |
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briancurtin | in the interests of covering the other stuff, moving on | 19:33 |
terrylhowe | well, at least it is contained in this class | 19:33 |
terrylhowe | sounds good | 19:34 |
briancurtin | (sorry to cut you off, just want to make sure we get through) | 19:34 |
briancurtin | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99458/ - json default for transport and resource __repr__ | 19:34 |
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Alex_Gaynor | This looks pretty straightforward to me | 19:35 |
briancurtin | i +2'ed this, seems fine, and was approved by dean at some point | 19:35 |
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dtroyer_zz | +A | 19:36 |
dtroyer_zz | Terry and I talked about it yesterday, I hadn't gotten back to the queue yet... | 19:36 |
briancurtin | awesome | 19:36 |
briancurtin | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99463/ - Very basic image resource | 19:37 |
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Alex_Gaynor | Let the bikeshedding begin! | 19:37 |
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jamielennox | Alex_Gaynor: we haven't been doing that yet? | 19:39 |
Alex_Gaynor | tehe :-) | 19:40 |
Alex_Gaynor | This looks mostly pretty reasonable to me, but I want to spend some more time wiht it | 19:40 |
Alex_Gaynor | briancurtin: you said you were wokring on a swift resource right? I think that's probably useful since they work pretty differently, and it'd be good to make sure we don't box ourselves into a corner | 19:40 |
briancurtin | Alex_Gaynor: i did say that, but time with my fingers on a keyboard was very little in the last week...i'm working on it in spirit, should be able to actually do stuff now that i'm back in town | 19:41 |
jamielennox | terrylhowe: it looks pretty good to me | 19:41 |
terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99463/4/examples/list.py | 19:42 |
terrylhowe | is really the only odd part about it | 19:42 |
terrylhowe | it is very convenient though passing in a string to import the resource | 19:42 |
Alex_Gaynor | It seems like maybe we all need a bit more time to process this one, shall we move on? | 19:46 |
briancurtin | i agree. i dont think we're far off, but maybe a few more looks, really. anything else at the moment? | 19:47 |
Alex_Gaynor | Does anyone object to me adding us to projects.txt so that our requirements will be sync'd with global-requirements? | 19:48 |
briancurtin | is there a downside to that? | 19:49 |
Alex_Gaynor | We can't depend on any libraries not listed there | 19:49 |
jamielennox | add it | 19:49 |
briancurtin | without having looked, is that something we can do right now with no changes? | 19:49 |
Alex_Gaynor | it's a CR we send to the requirements repo | 19:50 |
terrylhowe | sounds good to me | 19:50 |
briancurtin | go for it then | 19:51 |
dtroyer_zz | ++ | 19:51 |
Alex_Gaynor | Will do | 19:52 |
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briancurtin | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99477/ - Make the session command a little more friendly | 19:52 |
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briancurtin | this one is easy | 19:53 |
Alex_Gaynor | it looks like it needs a rebase? | 19:53 |
terrylhowe | rebased | 19:53 |
briancurtin | after that, anything else in the last 5 min? | 19:55 |
briancurtin | (or is there any discussion on that one?) | 19:55 |
Alex_Gaynor | Looks like no, cheers! | 19:58 |
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jamielennox | thanks everyone | 19:59 |
briancurtin | thanks all | 19:59 |
briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-06-17-19.00.html | 19:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-06-17-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-06-17-19.00.log.html | 19:59 |
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