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| carl_baldwin | hi all | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | I wasn’t planning to hold a meeting today. I shouldn’t sent a reminder about that but my schedule is all crazy this week. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there anything to discuss? | 15:02 |
| devvesa | yes, | 15:02 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Let me get the meetbot going to take notes. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 15:03:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’m at the Neutron mid-cycle sprint. So, this meeting should be short. | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | What agenda items do you have to discuss? | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: yamamoto: hi | 15:04 |
| devvesa | about BGP dynamic routing spec | 15:04 |
| devvesa | kyle wrote a wiki page with the code reviewers assigned to each Juno-2 bp | 15:04 |
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| devvesa | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan#Juno-2_BP_Assignments | 15:05 |
| devvesa | i miss the BGP one | 15:05 |
| yamamoto | a short update about ryu bgp: filtering code for ipv4 is in review | 15:05 |
| devvesa | great yamamoto | 15:05 |
| devvesa | unfortunately, I haven't checked new ryu bgp version neither this week | 15:06 |
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| devvesa | carl_baldwin: I asked Kyle to add the BGP spec in the wiki, but he hasn't do it yet | 15:06 |
| yamamoto | np. if you have a chance to try, i recommend master rather than a release at this point | 15:07 |
| devvesa | ok, i jot down it | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: The list isn’t complete. It is only a very short list of the highest priority BPs. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Actually, it is a very small percentage of them. | 15:08 |
| devvesa | ok... | 15:08 |
| devvesa | i start to worry about it, because there is only a week left | 15:08 |
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| devvesa | i just wanted to insist about the review a little bit more... to me, nothing else to say | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | I will bring it up here at the mid-cycle. | 15:10 |
| devvesa | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Thanks. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:13 |
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| seizadi | carl: have you had a chance to review the IPAM BP? | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | seizadi: Let me look to see where I am with that one. | 15:14 |
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| viveknarasimhan | hi carl | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | seizadi: I will review this evening. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: hi | 15:19 |
| viveknarasimhan | could you please share any update on plans for merge of DVR in the code-a-thon | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: hi | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | We’re working to get tempest tests running with DVR enabled in a devstack. | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think if we can make that work then the chances will be good. | 15:20 |
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| viveknarasimhan | ok | 15:20 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i see a squash review for DVR opened up today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105864/ | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | That is purely for testing. It will not merge that way. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | It was just an attempt at getting the gate to run with DVR enabled. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | … in kind of a hackish way but it should work nonetheless. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | We’re also working on getting a Jenkins server running to test the patches as they progress. | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | great.. | 15:22 |
| viveknarasimhan | thanks for the progress | 15:22 |
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| viveknarasimhan | please let me know if help is required . i will try to squeeze time to assist you and armax | 15:23 |
| armax | hi there | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ve got a pretty decent devstack integration working now. I’ve been able to use it to create a fresh devstack with dvr enabled. | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | that is good to know. so i believe you are patching #105864 to master tip to test out DVR. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Yes, that is basically it. | 15:25 |
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| viveknarasimhan | from my side | 15:27 |
| viveknarasimhan | update is I submitted the modified blueprint as new review | 15:27 |
| viveknarasimhan | also i am working on spec text for 2 blueprints | 15:27 |
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| viveknarasimhan | one on supporting multiple dvrs to have interfaces on same subnet | 15:28 |
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| viveknarasimhan | which is :https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-ovs-dvr-multigateway | 15:29 |
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| viveknarasimhan | and then filed one more in Horizon for enhancements for DVR | 15:29 |
| viveknarasimhan | which is: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/enhance-horizon-for-dvr | 15:29 |
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| yamamoto | viveknarasimhan: thank you for updating l2 doc btw. i haven't had a chance to look at it though. | 15:36 |
| viveknarasimhan | no problems. you are welcome yamamoto | 15:36 |
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| yamamoto | anything else to discuss? nothing from me | 15:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | Sorry, I’m multitasking. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | If there is nothing else, I’ll close the meeting. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | One more update. I was able to create a new devstack this morning and run the test_network_basic_ops tempest scenario on it successfully. My confidence is growing. | 15:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks for joining. We’ll resume regular meetings next Thursday. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 15:52:24 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-10-15.03.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-10-15.03.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-10-15.03.log.html | 15:52 |
| yamamoto_ | thank you | 15:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Greetings Neutron Group Policy Team! | 18:00 |
| s3wong | hello | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong banix LouisF mandeep__: hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started | 18:01 |
| LouisF | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 18:01:50 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: Hi | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy#July_10th.2C_2014 | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #announcements Juno specification submission deadline: July 10th, specification approval deadline: july 17th | 18:02 |
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| rkukura | hi - sorry I’m late | 18:03 |
| mandeep__ | rkukura: Hi | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe we got a few more related specs in to beat the deadline | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Patches in review | 18:04 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: Oh? I thought our spec has already been approved? | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i meant a few other specs | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: some vendor specs, and kevinbenton posted a spec for the API intercept as well | 18:05 |
| s3wong | OK | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will discuss those later in the agenda | 18:05 |
| mandeep__ | s3wong: Specs for InterceptAPI, ODL driver, and vendor drivers | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just wanted to callout earlier that if something more is being planned, it should land today | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i moved the links to the patches to a different page, and i am in the process of organizing the content | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so that its easier for the people who are reviewing to understand what each series is doing and what are the dependencies | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | feel free to update that page once i have the content in there | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i mean more content | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Resource Model/API/DB/Plugin Update | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | got some more reviews comments before the july4th break, and have responded to all of them | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | no negative comments on the first series, except the -2 from markmcclain which was for the missing driver patches | 18:08 |
| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks for that. That now gives us enough of a model to base the new GBP drivers on | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the driver patches have landed, so we expect markmcclain will remove the -2 | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep__: sure | 18:09 |
| rkukura | I spoke with markmcclain about this a little while ago | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, thanks | 18:09 |
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| rkukura | He does feel we should get gpm-rmd-1 out of WIP state before we start merging the series | 18:09 |
| rkukura | He’d also like to see some sort of tempest-like functional test that verifies datapath connectivity. | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay lets get back to the first part, when we discuss your mapping driver update | 18:10 |
| markmcclain | yeah a working driver and some kind of testing ensures we're not merging broken code | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: agree | 18:11 |
| rkukura | And we do need the DB migrations in each patch that adds/modifies DB model clases | 18:11 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: +1 that is req | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, db migration is pending | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura markmcclain: however that is mechanical | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will be happy to add it right away, if we are close to that stage | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | if we agree that we are past the initial churn on the DB model, i am happy to add the db migration, right away | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | do we agree? | 18:12 |
| rkukura | I’d really like to get any remaining reviewer input into the first few patches, but am concerned the -2 is hindering that | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree | 18:13 |
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| rkukura | I can get an updated gpm-rmd-1 patch out by Monday, maybe sooner, but also need to review a bunch of specs | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, so i think there is silent agreement that the DB model on the first series (EP, EPG, L2/3 Policy) is stable | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i will add the migration script | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam to add DB migration script to first series of GP resources | 18:14 |
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| rkukura | Does anyone want to volunteer to write a functional test that could later become a tempest test (in K, after API compatability is required)? | 18:14 |
| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: For downstream drivers, we have to assume that the model is reasonably stable to started on that development. | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep__: okay | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe rudra rugge wanted to do that | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we can ping him | 18:15 |
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| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, Rudra had wanted to tackle that during the summit | 18:16 |
| rkukura | This may be needed before anything can merge, so we need some commitment | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree with the approach though, i think we can add the functional test right away, and that will ensure sanity of the patches | 18:16 |
| rkukura | It should be doable based on the current gmp-rmd-1 patch and its dependencies. | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: does that sound good? ^^^ (add funcational test to neutron for testing the sanity of the first series)? | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *functional | 18:17 |
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| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: did you add that diagram on the mapping driver | 18:18 |
| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: That makes sense if we all agree that the model looks good and that we are waiting for tests to validate that we have end-to-end correctness. It would not make sense if there was any disagreement on the model. So I assume that we are all agreeing on the model. | 18:18 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: looks good | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep__: i think we have agreement on that right, from the spec? | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: thanks | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: sorry, i dont have that yet, i will add | 18:19 |
| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, you are right. | 18:19 |
| LouisF | thx | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam to add diagram fo explain the different functional blocks in the GP stack | 18:20 |
| rkukura | forgot to mention something regarding gpm-rmd-1 | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action GP team to add functional test(s) to neutron to aid in merging of the first series of patches | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: can you hold that, till we change the topic? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | markmcclain and I discussed the various approaches for invoking other plugins | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: separate agenda item for mapping driver | 18:20 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:20 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | in fact i will change that right away, if nothing else to discuss on the API/Resource model | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #agreed Fair level of consensus (or no immediate dissents) on the API/DB model for GP-API/EB/PLG-1 patches, such that functional tests can be attempted using the mapping driver available | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Mapping Model/Driver Update | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sorry, go ahead | 18:22 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:23 |
| rkukura | so markmcclain also has concerns similar to mine regarding using python-neutronclient for invoking the other plugins | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, i had those earlier as well | 18:24 |
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| rkukura | in particular, the fact that invocation chains could crisscross between different neutron-server replicas could be a problem | 18:24 |
| * regXboi running late agan :( | 18:24 | |
| s3wong | rkukura: OK - are we thinking of NOT using python-neutronclient now? | 18:24 |
| rkukura | and the UT issues I had hit are real | 18:24 |
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| mandeep__ | rkukura: Yes, we had the same concern earlier, but my understanding was that armax had specific feedback to use python-neutronclient. Did you get an opportunity to discuss with him? | 18:25 |
| rkukura | markmcclain described his ongoing work on refactoring the WSGI->Controller-plugin front-end | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura markmcclain: i believe that work is not planned for Juno right? | 18:26 |
| rkukura | It sounds like markmcclain’s refactoring will provide an ideal interface for our long-term use | 18:26 |
| rkukura | He is working to get this in for juno | 18:26 |
| rkukura | But we cannot depend on it merging first | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agree | 18:27 |
| mandeep__ | rkukura: agreed | 18:27 |
| armax | I am getting up to speed with the latest developement | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: in the interim, i think direct calls, provide a reasonable path forward | 18:27 |
| armax | I know that rkukura and markmcclain chatted about this but I don’t know the specifics | 18:27 |
| rkukura | So we agreed sticking with the current approach is best for the interim | 18:27 |
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| armax | I’ll touch base with people offline | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thats seems very logical and reasonable to me | 18:28 |
| mandeep__ | rkukura: Can you review it with armax as well? | 18:28 |
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| rkukura | markmcclain told me he is willing to disucss this with armax if needed - we all agree its not ideal long term due to possible divergence between the real Controller and our version, but it should suffice | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe with that, the gp-rmd-1 patch can come out of WIP right away? | 18:28 |
| mandeep__ | rkukura: OK | 18:29 |
| s3wong | rkukura: so with the current approach, we are still going with python-neutronclient? | 18:29 |
| rkukura | I need to add code to handle updates, keep track of whether mapped resources are owned, and cleanup owned resources when GP resources are deletted | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:29 |
| rkukura | this will all follow patterns already in the implciit_policy driver | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: in our current approach we dont use the python-neutronclient | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: as deteremined by rkukura, and validated by markmcclain, using the python-neutronclient does not seem a good option at this point | 18:30 |
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| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: so we are going with direct calls (as in PoC)? | 18:30 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: what are the alternatives here? | 18:30 |
| rkukura | So do we all agree our current plan is to stick with the direct plugin calls, with code to invoke notifiers, etc., until the WSGI front end refactoring provides a better solution? | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: as is in the current patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105272 | 18:31 |
| mandeep__ | s3wong: As in the latest patch ... that is an update from the implementation in the PoC | 18:31 |
| mandeep__ | LouisF: Direct calls to Controller Object vs. using pyhton-neutronclient API | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: we have only two alternatives, make direct calls (since we are in the same process space), or use the python-neutronclient library (though we are in the same process space) | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: but rkukura determined that the later is not feasible for more than one reason | 18:32 |
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| rkukura | we also discussed using the Controller instances, but there is no way to do that currently, and markmcclain doesn’t want to enable this because code depending on this would have to change as the front end is refactored | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: eventually, there is a plan to refactor the current WSGI framework, such that it will be easier to route these calls, and GP will make use of that | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:33 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: Please let me know if I’m misrepresenting any of what you said | 18:33 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:34 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: you've accurately recreated the convo :) | 18:34 |
| rkukura | The initial front end refactoring will not break the way we are currently doing the direct plugin calls | 18:34 |
| regXboi | so... if we aren't using neutronclient, what about horizon or HEAR? | 18:34 |
| regXboi | er HEAT? | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura markmcclain: nice! | 18:35 |
| rkukura | regXboi: They should continue to use neutronclient | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: as rkukura said they will | 18:35 |
| rkukura | They are separate processes, with seperate test environments | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: what we are discussing here are the internal calls | 18:35 |
| mandeep__ | regXboi: The issues was in calling python-neutronclient from a driver | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: the calls which the group policy mapping driver makes to the neutron core plugin to create the “traditional” neutron resources, once the mapping from the group policy resource to the neutron resource is established | 18:36 |
| regXboi | got it | 18:36 |
| regXboi | I was reading it the other way round | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: you would be excused for wondering why one would the python-neutronclient for this :-) | 18:36 |
| regXboi | well that was going to be my next question, yes :) | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: the CLI and client the GP resources is as planned | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *for the GP resources | 18:37 |
| regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: thx ... | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok anything else for rkukura? | 18:37 |
| rkukura | Anyway, given the above, I’m hopefully we can get the gp-api-1 -> gpm-rmd-1 stream of patches merging next week | 18:38 |
| regXboi | this may not fit here | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: amen! | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: go ahead | 18:38 |
| rkukura | especially if we can get rudra to submit a functional test | 18:38 |
| regXboi | but do we have patches for the CLI and client changes? ( I may have missed them) | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: yes we do, and we have a separate agenda item as well | 18:38 |
| regXboi | ok, I'll be quiet then :) | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: all patches linked from: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: see CLI and horizon at teh bottom of that page | 18:39 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: also horizon work | 18:39 |
| regXboi | yep... got it | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: yes | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: WIP patch was posted, and we do have a separate agenda item | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the update, any blockers for you? | 18:40 |
| rkukura | nothing other than needing to do a lot of spec review before the deadline for those | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: :-) | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Security Groups mapping update | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: hi | 18:40 |
| s3wong | hello | 18:40 |
| s3wong | So I have updated the google doc to reflect on preliminary idea on how to map to SG | 18:41 |
| s3wong | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/134P7TJdiIfjPWbmstSTY4vp9E6oRYTFs64ON3thFxhI/edit# | 18:41 |
| s3wong | please comment (mostly the last section: "Contract Rendering Workflow") | 18:41 |
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| rkukura | s3wong: I’ll read/comment the doc, but is the current plan to use one SG per EPG? | 18:42 |
| s3wong | rkukura: one SG per contract providing EPG | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i was thinking more on this | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura s3wong: i think we probably need on SG per EPG for the default rules | 18:42 |
| s3wong | rkukura: SG created when both consuming and providing EPGs are known | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and then one SG per Contract | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had not realized earlier that you can associate multiple SGs with a neutron port, but you can | 18:43 |
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| rkukura | I think we should create the SG at the same time we create the EPG, and set that SG on all EPs within that EPG | 18:43 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes, I found out about that recently as well | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | with that, i believe the above mapping would wor | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *wrok | 18:44 |
| regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:44 |
| rkukura | Then just add/modifiy/delete rules within it as contracts/policies/rules change | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i am not what is the order in that case | 18:44 |
| rkukura | Oh, I misssed the multiple SGs thing | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i mean to say i dont what how the SGs are ordered when more than one SG is associated with a neutron port | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | fyi - #link http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/securitygroup_workflow.html | 18:45 |
| rkukura | So the API allows it, but are the semantics defined? | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: not sure | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: need to check the code | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: any chance you got to explore that? | 18:46 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: I saw that the API allows multiple SGs to be associated per port | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yeah, i guess we need to try this out | 18:46 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: agreed | 18:46 |
| * regXboi suspects that the implementation doesn't care about priority | 18:47 | |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: rkukura: but in any case, the CIDR field would allow us to ensure applying appropriate rules to traffic flow, right? | 18:47 |
| rkukura | If multiple SGs/port helps, great. But is there any reason we can’t make it work with one SG (per EPG) if needed? | 18:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: yeah, probably, so its messy | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we can make it work with one SG per EPG as well | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but then we have to preserve more mapping | 18:48 |
| regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: unless you want to know which SG is matched, then I don't think it is | 18:48 |
| mandeep__ | rkukura: It would make thde code (and it's updates) much cleaner with one SG per contract (and multiple per port) | 18:48 |
| rkukura | I guess if the default rule is deny, and any SG on the port can allow, we might be able to use this | 18:48 |
| regXboi | but of course, we would like to know which SG is matched :) | 18:48 |
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| mandeep__ | rkukura: You have a point ... the white-list approach handles the ordering issues | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i did not quite understand your question, i am still processing :-( | 18:50 |
| regXboi | um... | 18:50 |
| regXboi | Aren't neutron SGs whitelists by definition? | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: yes | 18:50 |
| s3wong | regXboi: yes they are | 18:50 |
| mandeep__ | regXboi: As are GBP rules | 18:50 |
| regXboi | ok - rkukura confused me for a second | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh shoot, we have only 10 mins left in the meeting! | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks for spending time and leading this | 18:51 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: port w/ SG with rules XYZ && CIDR 10.0.1.0/24 and rules ABC && CIDR 10.0.2.0/24 | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i believe we need some more offline discussions on this | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok i will respond to your email thread, thanks! | 18:51 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: cool | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks for the update | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic API Intercept | 18:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: posted a spec for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105695/ | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: thanks much for the quick turnaround | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix is also working on this | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this will allow us to get over the current limitation of not being able to support GP API and traditional Neutron API simultaneously | 18:53 |
| rkukura | I suggest talking with markmcclain about how the refactored front end will support this | 18:53 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: what do you mean by the front-end in this case? | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am sure the new refactoring will have a way to do this | 18:54 |
| rkukura | even if we need an interim solution | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we are trying to work through an intermediate approach | 18:54 |
| rkukura | markmcclain and I touched on this in our conversation, and it sounds like he has a specific solution in mind | 18:54 |
| mandeep__ | rkukura: I believe that kevinbenton and banix are at the mid-session summit with markmcclain | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura markmcclain: is there a spec/document that kevinbenton can look at? | 18:55 |
| regXboi | mandeep__: yes on banix | 18:55 |
| rkukura | banix is here, but not kevinbenton | 18:56 |
| * regXboi was supposed to be there but had to cancel :( | 18:56 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton could not make it | 18:56 |
| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: i am :-) | 18:56 |
| * mandeep__ Ooops | 18:56 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: oh you made it? :-) | 18:56 |
| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: whoops. i am in this meeting | 18:56 |
| rkukura | markmcclain will be submiting a spec today, but it will be mostly placeholder | 18:56 |
| kevinbenton | not in MN | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: yeah :-) | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura markmcclain kevinbenton: hopefully we will have a path forward on this, whichever is the most feasible (short and long term) | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: thanks much! | 18:57 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Vendor drivers | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vendor drivers (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:58 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | its great to see that a bunch of vendor drivers specs have been submitted | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we actually 5 GP driver submissions including ODL! | 18:58 |
| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all, and the dependency is really on the base model patches to merge | 18:59 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: links to these? | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: they are in the agenda | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: go for it | 18:59 |
| regXboi | so... revenge of multicast classifier | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: :-) | 18:59 |
| regXboi | we really need a multicast policy classifier | 19:00 |
| regXboi | the SDN-VE driver is going to use it | 19:00 |
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| * SumitNaiksatam thinks we can stay in this meeting until we are kicked out (being optimistic that we are not) | 19:00 | |
| regXboi | because we have use cases around giving different policy to multicast traffic | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: okay | 19:00 |
| mandeep__ | LouisF: Look under "Vendor/Open Source Controller Drivers". There are 5 backends proposed - ODL, Cisco, One Convergence, Nuage, and IBM | 19:00 |
| regXboi | I'd like something very simple in the policyclassifier | 19:01 |
| regXboi | and leave it to the drivers to do the necessary low level magic | 19:01 |
| regXboi | is that possible? | 19:01 |
| mandeep__ | regXboi: Did you want to write that up a BP? | 19:01 |
| regXboi | today? | 19:01 |
| * regXboi goes ouch | 19:01 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: one of the approaches could be to use resource extension | 19:01 |
| mandeep__ | That way, it's implementation in the reference implementation does not become an issue | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: it could be made part of the IBM SDN-VE bp spec | 19:01 |
| regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: I'll get with banix on that approach | 19:02 |
| mandeep__ | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, that can done as a resource extension. Good point | 19:02 |
| regXboi | because that looks to be the best way forward | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: so we would be creating a new extended policy classifier resource which adds the multicast field | 19:02 |
| regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: something like that, yes | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: once we have enough consensus, we can promote that attribute to the policy classifier itself | 19:02 |
| regXboi | I think that will work for me | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: but at least for the time being it will unblock the IBM driver, and will provide it with a way to use it | 19:03 |
| mandeep__ | regXboi: (Sorry, I know that the BP deadline being today) | 19:03 |
| regXboi | since the SDN-VE bp spec is already there, we can piggyback | 19:03 |
| regXboi | so I don't need to write a *new* bp | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: exactly | 19:04 |
| mandeep__ | regXboi: ;-) | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: thats my thinking | 19:04 |
| regXboi | and that was my concern, given folks are in MN | 19:04 |
| * regXboi notes "great minds...." | 19:04 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: understand | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other questions/thoughts/comments? | 19:04 |
| regXboi | ok, that works for me - thanks! | 19:04 |
| regXboi | and I'm good :) | 19:04 |
| rkukura | +1 | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regarding CLI/client | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: there? | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything blocked at your end? | 19:05 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: No. | 19:05 |
| songole | I am starting on the 2nd patch set | 19:05 |
| * regXboi pads away to discuss "cow" things | 19:05 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah, just typing that :-) | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you can start with the other resources as well (easy for me to say :-P) | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is ronak here? | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i was hoping to get a Horizon update | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam to ping Ronak on the state of Horixon | 19:06 |
| songole | I meant 2nd API set for other resources.. | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: yes, thats what i meant | 19:07 |
| songole | ok | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else that we need to discuss since we have not yet been kicked out? | 19:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks everyone! | 19:08 |
| s3wong | thanks | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 19:08:10 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-10-18.01.html | 19:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-10-18.01.txt | 19:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-10-18.01.log.html | 19:08 |
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| kevinbenton | o/ | 19:08 |
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