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mrsmithhey carl_baldwin14:58
carl_baldwinhi mrsmith14:58
carl_baldwinhi all14:59
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carl_baldwinSwami, mrsmith, viveknarasimhan, armax, safchain, seizadi, jvoss, pcm, nextone92, devvesa, yamamoto:  ping15:01
armaxcarl_baldwin: pong15:01
yamamotohi15:01
pcm_yo15:01
safchainhi15:01
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 24 15:01:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:01
carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:01
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carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam15:01
carl_baldwinI haven’t had a chance to update the agenda but it isn’t too far off.15:02
carl_baldwinI think today is Juno-2.  I’m sure the gate queue is nice and long.15:02
pcm_Kyle mentioned they did Juno-2 yesterday15:03
carl_baldwinI missed that.15:03
pcm_Heard it at, I think, Adv Svcs meeting.15:03
yamamotoi heard it at ml2 meeting15:04
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carl_baldwinCool.15:04
carl_baldwin#topic neutron-ovs-dvr15:05
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carl_baldwinLooks like we’ve had 5/7 of the original patches merge now.15:05
armaxcarl_baldwin: yes, pendind ML2+L3 Sched15:06
carl_baldwinStill blocked with -215:06
armaxthe few others outstanding are not in the critical path for getting started with DVR15:06
carl_baldwinarmax: any more update on that?15:06
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armaxcarl_baldwin: true, I spoke with Bob yesterday15:06
armaxarmax: I’ll poke him again, we’ve agreed that he’ll review the patch and see if he spots anything else that might prevent this patch from moving forward15:07
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armaxcarl_baldwin: but from his initial reaction he seems okay to lift the -215:08
armaxcarl_baldwin: we’ve gone through a number of iterations after his initial feedback15:08
Swamihi15:08
carl_baldwinThat would be great.  I think we need to merge these 2 patches so that we can use trunk to test.15:08
armaxand vivek and I are a lot more confident that this ML2 does what it’s supposed to do15:09
carl_baldwinSwami: hi15:09
carl_baldwinarmax: That is goodness.15:09
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armaxcarl_baldwin: also 3rd party Tests seem to be happy on the latest PS (44)15:09
armaxcarl_baldwin: so I am pretty positive we are ready to nail this one15:10
armaxcarl_baldwin: but then you’re never know ;)15:10
armaxyou'll15:10
carl_baldwinWe’ll still need to iterate a bit to get it right.15:10
armaxcarl_baldwin: right. There are other things we need to refine15:11
armaxcarl_baldwin: but it makes sense to do them as follow-up work for now15:12
armaxcarl_baldwin: as they kind of go beyond dvr proper15:12
carl_baldwinarmax: agreed.  I think we’ll be able to tackle them at a faster pace with the patches merged.15:12
armaxcarl_baldwin: for instance I am pursuing the idea of a binding manager15:12
armaxcarl_baldwin: to break out the port binding logic out of the ML2 plugin15:13
armaxcarl_baldwin: rkukura had an initial positive reaction to the idea, but I need more work around this area15:13
carl_baldwinarmax: That could be a good.  I’d like to see a short description of how that will work.15:13
armaxI have an initial patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109046/15:14
carl_baldwinI do remember seeing that one show up yesterday but have not looked at it.  I will have a look today.15:15
carl_baldwinI still have an action item to create bug reports for the follow up items that we have.  I will do that today.15:15
armaxI need more work, but an input would be good15:16
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will create bugs to follow up on15:16
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carl_baldwinarmax: Thanks I will have a look.15:16
amullerSorry I'm late there was a siren heh15:16
carl_baldwinamuller: hi15:16
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carl_baldwinI’m going to be working on namespace cleanup as well.  I think I can get that knocked out quickly.15:17
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carl_baldwinWe’ve also got some working on for migration of legacy to distributed.15:17
armaxcarl_baldwin: I am sure the more we test this the more issues will find :)15:18
amullercarl_baldwin: router_delete_namespaces still causes issues last time I checked on RHEL 7 sadly, you're working on Ubuntu?15:18
carl_baldwinamuller: I think most of us are working on Ubuntu.15:18
carl_baldwinamuller: what are the issues you’re seeing?15:19
armaxbtw devstack patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103180/15:19
armaxmerged last night15:19
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carl_baldwinamuller: are the issues related to dvr?15:19
amullercarl_baldwin: No15:19
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amullercarl_baldwin: Before DVR... There's still issues with deletion of namespaces on Red Hat based distros15:20
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carl_baldwinamuller: I’ll tack that on to the end of the agenda.15:21
carl_baldwinAny other DVR updates?15:21
Swamihi carl_baldwin and armax15:21
carl_baldwinSwami: hi15:21
SwamiI have pushed a Neutronclient patch that fixes a problem15:22
SwamiPlease take a look at it.15:22
SwamiA recent fix by Assaf, will not allow us to define a router as "legacy' if the default it "distributed".15:22
amuller*coughs*15:22
carl_baldwinSwami: I have it up this morning and was looking at it.15:22
Swamihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/109180/215:22
carl_baldwinThanks for the link.15:23
SwamiI think Armando is also in the loop on this.15:23
armaxSwami: yes, sorry for the snafus15:23
Swamiarmax: its ok.15:23
armaxamuller and enikanorov_ have an initial feedback15:24
SwamiThis issue helped us find out the other problem on the plugin side.15:24
amullerSo something good came out of my stupidness :)15:24
carl_baldwinSwami: What was the other issue on the plugin side?15:24
armaxSwami: I’d be tempted to reinstate the old behavior and see if we can fix the misleading help in line15:24
Swamicarl_baldwin: just to bring you up to speed15:25
armaxcarl_baldwin: it looks like the override of the router type happens only when it’s dvr by default15:25
Swamion the plugin side also the code does not allow us to override the "distributed" flag if the default is set to "true".15:25
armaxcarl_baldwin: sorry it is NOT15:25
armaxso it works in the case dvr is switched off by default15:25
armaxbut it doesn’t when it is on by default15:26
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carl_baldwinAh, I think I understand.  Is there a patch up to fix?15:26
armaxnot yet, Swami and I are coordinating this one internally first15:26
SwamiYes I do have a patch, I shared it with Armax, but I will work with him to finalize.15:27
Swamicarl_baldwin: just to be clear, I don't have a patch that is in the gerrit.15:27
SwamiI do have an internal patch and will work with Armax on this15:27
armaxSwami: let’s sync up offline15:28
carl_baldwinWhy not in gerrit?  We should probably have a bug filed and a patch in gerrit.  Otherwise, things get lost.15:28
Swamiarmax: thanks will do.15:28
armaxwe will15:28
armaxcarl_baldwin: swami sent me an email last night at 12.20am pacific :)15:28
carl_baldwingreat.15:28
carl_baldwinAny other DVR updates?15:29
armaxcarl_baldwin: we will, but we don’t want to steer attention from the last two outstanding patches15:29
armaxcarl_baldwin: I think we talked long enough ;) this is an L3 meeting after all15:29
carl_baldwinKeep up the good work.  Thanks.15:30
carl_baldwin#topic l3-high-availability15:30
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carl_baldwinsafchain: Are you around?15:30
safchainyes15:30
carl_baldwinAny updates?15:30
safchainyes, started to address comments on the first patch, now pass the UT15:31
armaxsafchain: great progress on that15:31
safchainamuller, made a great job on rebasing every patches15:31
armaxsafchain: I’ll review it one more time today15:31
armaxand the others15:31
safchainarmax, thx15:31
amullerarmax: only rebases right now15:31
armaxamuller: ok15:31
safchaincurrently working on the scheduler part15:32
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amuller<-- working on the agent side patches15:32
carl_baldwinsafchain: I will review as well.15:32
safchainyes there are still remaining comments from armax that maybe need to be addressed15:33
carl_baldwinHas anyone, by chance, tried this with DVR snat yet?15:33
amullerNot yet Carl15:33
safchainno15:33
* carl_baldwin was just wondering15:33
amullerWe'll get there15:33
carl_baldwinIt would take some work since neither has merged.15:33
carl_baldwinAnything else to discuss?15:34
safchainok for me15:34
carl_baldwinsafchain: amuller:  thanks.15:34
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carl_baldwin#topic l3-svcs-vendor-*15:35
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carl_baldwinpcm_: Any update here?15:35
pcm_Reference VPN code made it into J215:35
carl_baldwinGreat.15:35
pcm_Csico VPN code is waiting for reviewers. Could use some eyes, please: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107473/115:35
pcm_Looks like that'll go in J-315:36
carl_baldwinpcm_: Thanks.  I will take a look soon.15:36
pcm_After that, I'll be asking if other services need this and can work with people apply.15:36
pcm_to apply15:37
carl_baldwinpcm_: Sounds like a plan.15:37
pcm_that's all from me15:37
carl_baldwinpcm_: Thanks.15:37
pcm_np15:37
carl_baldwin#topic bgp-dynamic-routing15:37
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carl_baldwindevvesa: nextone92: Are you around?15:38
carl_baldwinI’ll ping them late.15:38
carl_baldwinlater.15:38
carl_baldwinI don’t think any of the other topics have had any progress recently.  I’ll skip them this week.15:39
yamamotoa short update on ryu bgp: we have infilter code now.  (not merged to ryu master yet though)15:40
carl_baldwin#topic router_delete_namespaces15:40
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carl_baldwinyamamoto: sorry, go ahead.15:40
yamamotothat's all from me :-)15:40
carl_baldwinyamamoto: Thanks.15:40
carl_baldwin#topic router_delete_namespaces15:41
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carl_baldwinamuller: You have the floor.15:41
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amullerThis is more of a distro issue, and I haven't looked deeply into this at all15:42
amullerBut we tried internally to enable the auto delete flag for l3 and dhcp agents15:42
carl_baldwinCan you describe what you’re seeing?15:42
amullerSaw a bunch of errors in the log, waved our hands, let out a few juicy swear words and moved on15:42
amullerI'll put it on my list to revisit this sometime next week15:42
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amullerI'll report a RHBZ probably15:43
carl_baldwinamuller: Have you read through this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/105253515:43
amullerA few times :)15:43
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carl_baldwinAny “Device or resource busy” errors?15:44
amullerProbably, I don't have the logs handy this was a while ago15:44
amullerIf/when I'll have something conrete I'll get back to you15:44
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carl_baldwinamuller: Great.  Assuming the problem is what I think, please look in the bug for information about the iproute update that is needed to allow clean deletion of namespaces.15:45
carl_baldwinLet me know.15:45
amullerWill do, thanks.15:45
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion15:46
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carl_baldwinIf there is nothing else, I’ll give you back some time.15:47
carl_baldwinThanks for all you do!15:47
pcm_bye15:47
carl_baldwin#endmeeting15:47
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yamamotobye15:48
amullerarmax: I wanted to ask if there's a good technical reason / a plan to remove DVR's dependency on l2pop15:48
armaxamuller: removing l2pop is a technical debt from a data plan perspective15:49
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armaxamuller: I suppose dvr could work in full learning mode15:51
armaxbut why would you ever want to do that in prod?15:51
armaxamuller: but then again, I’d have to think harder if it that really works without l2pop15:52
amullerarmax: l2pop means using tunnel tenant networks, I had customers opting for vlan tenant networks in mind15:52
armaxamuller: I think vlan support it’s been discussed15:52
armaxand it’s definitely on the radar15:53
amullerI see15:53
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