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| flaper87 | o/ | 15:09 |
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| flaper87 | #startmeeting Zaqar | 15:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 25 15:10:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 15:10 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Roll Call | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:10 | |
| flaper87 | o/ | 15:10 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: ? | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | malini ? | 15:10 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Get rid of the config samples | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Get rid of the config samples (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:11 | |
| flaper87 | This is today's agenda: | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Marconi#Agenda | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | damn, we need to rename that page | 15:11 |
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| flaper87 | I think today's meeting is going to be quite short | 15:12 |
| malini1 | o/ | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | malini1: hey there :) | 15:12 |
| vkmc | yeah there are several wiki pages with references to Marconi... we will have to organize a renamewiki-rock-day | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | There were no action items last week | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | so we can get right to the meeting agenda | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | #topic Get rid of the config samples | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Get rid of the config samples (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:13 | |
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| flaper87 | so, I wanted to bring that up | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | there were some discussions in the mailing list about projects willing to get rid of config samples | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to propose the same for Zaqar | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | keeping the config sample updated is a pain | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | and it's actually not reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally useful | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | Instead, we should provide a reliable way to generate it | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | seems like the generator script still has a bug on freebsd/osx | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | otherwise, I would be fine not checking in the sample | 15:14 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: oh, that's a good point. I updated it the other day | 15:14 |
| flaper87 | did you try it recently? | 15:14 |
| malini1 | we shud make sure to generate them in a painless way..generating sample for some of the projects gives me nightmares | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | iirc, it didn't parse command line args correctly | 15:14 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: is this something you can put in your lowest-prio list ? | 15:15 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: i haven't tried in the past few days... vkmc have you? | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | I don't have OSx so I can't test it | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | Lets help fixing this script on OSx and then get rid of this sample | 15:15 |
| kgriffs | sounds like a plan | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 15:16 |
| flaper87 | any other comment on this topic? | 15:16 |
| vkmc | I don's have OS X either :/ | 15:16 |
| vkmc | it works ok in GNU/Linux though | 15:16 |
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| kgriffs | flaper87: did you sync the updated script from oslo incubator already? | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: mmh, I did but there were no changes now that I think about it | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116275/ | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116275/ | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | that patch fixed the config generator | 15:18 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | #topic Juno Status | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno Status (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:19 | |
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| flaper87 | before moving to the next big topic, lets go through this | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | #link https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/juno-3 | 15:19 |
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| flaper87 | we're not in bad shape, although there are some blueprints that need some love | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/threat-model | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: is that something you can take care of this week? | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | Just a note, I'd like to get all (most of) those blueprints implemented by the end of this week (mid of next) | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | I don't mean to put any preasure but I think it's important for the graduation request | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | (which is the next big topic of this meeting) | 15:21 |
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| kgriffs | flaper87: yes, I should be able to get to that. If we have to, we can slip it... it isn't really a code deliverable, and I don't anticipate finding any major vulnerabilities, so I could do it after the milestone closes if need be | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: do you think we can move this to Needs Review? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/document-config-options | 15:22 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: cool, so that can happen even after the code freeze | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | right | 15:22 |
| vkmc | flaper87, I'm changing the way of generating the config tables to use the automated tools that use the docs team | 15:23 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: awesome, lets leave it there | 15:23 |
| vkmc | annegentle give it a look and asked me to do that | 15:23 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: how much do you think is left to do there? | 15:23 |
| flaper87 | malini1: thoughts about this one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/api-v1.1-functional-tests | 15:23 |
| vkmc | nothing much but it's not ready to get a extensive review | 15:23 |
| vkmc | it will be later today and I'll change the status of the bp | 15:24 |
| malini1 | flaper87: Alex has already done most (and probably all )of it | 15:24 |
| malini1 | It needs to be DRYd up, but that can happen as part of the testing-redux bp we have | 15:24 |
| flaper87 | malini1: cool, I'll mark it as implemented | 15:24 |
| flaper87 | malini1: +1 | 15:24 |
| malini1 | Do we need Tempest tests for v1.1 ? | 15:24 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: awesome, thanks a lot! | 15:24 |
| vkmc | flaper87, np | 15:25 |
| flaper87 | malini1: yes, we should move v1.0 to v1.1 probably | 15:25 |
| malini1 | flaper87: when should that happen? | 15:25 |
| flaper87 | malini1: oh well, I don't think it's high-prio. it'd be nice to have them before Juno is released, though. | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | v1.0 is still our officially released version | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | and that's covered | 15:26 |
| malini1 | cool | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | Those are the doubts I had. Thank you all for working hard on this. | 15:27 |
| flaper87 | Other than that, I wanted to ask everyone to dedicate more time to reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/zaqar,n,z | 15:27 |
| flaper87 | if the blueprints you were taking care of are done or close to done, consider dedicating extra time to review. | 15:27 |
| flaper87 | We need to review the redis work, patches that target blueprints and critical bugs. I'll prepare a priority list of patches | 15:28 |
| AAzza | flaper87: what about api-v1.1-response-document-changes? i probably missed its discussion( | 15:28 |
| flaper87 | but until that list is done, please, go through that list and review | 15:28 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: we didn't discussed it. Since you just took over it, I thought that you needed more time. Do you have any extra feedback on it? | 15:28 |
| flaper87 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/api-v1.1-response-document-changes | 15:29 |
| AAzza | flaper87: not really, i think i will propose several patches in next few days, and then clarify other points | 15:30 |
| flaper87 | To be fair, pretty much everything we have under review has high priority | 15:30 |
| flaper87 | :/ | 15:30 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: awesome, thanks for working on that! | 15:30 |
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| flaper87 | anything else? | 15:30 |
| flaper87 | #topic Graduation | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Graduation (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:31 | |
| flaper87 | DRUMBS PLEASE! | 15:31 |
| malini1 | DRUMB DRUMB | 15:31 |
| flaper87 | It is that time of the cycle, we need to vote on whether we want to go for it or not. | 15:31 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-graduation | 15:31 |
| flaper87 | #link https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/juno-3 | 15:31 |
| flaper87 | Before we vote, I'd like to say a couple of things | 15:32 |
| kgriffs | I have some thoughts too | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | 1. We're in better shape than last time. This in terms of gate jobs, API stability, integration with the community, communication and things | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | 2. Our current documentation is getting way better, which we didn't have last time | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | 3. The number of use-cases keep growing and people interested in Zaqar are putting preassure on us to graduate | 15:33 |
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| flaper87 | There are still things community/software wise that need love, though. The graduation process won't be easy but I don't think we'll need to withdraw it this time | 15:33 |
| flaper87 | :P | 15:34 |
| flaper87 | at least that :D | 15:34 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: go ahead | 15:34 |
| kgriffs | so, the last big thing that hasn't landed yet that I think would be a legitimate reason for our request to be denied | 15:34 |
| kgriffs | Redis driver | 15:34 |
| kgriffs | (AGPL haters will be haters) | 15:34 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: +1 +1 +1 +1 | 15:35 |
| vkmc | +1 | 15:35 |
| kgriffs | second thing is that I think we ought to get the thumbs up from 2-3 TC members BEFORE going for it | 15:35 |
| malini1 | kgriffs: +1 | 15:35 |
| malini1 | we need somebody to advocate why we should graduate | 15:35 |
| kgriffs | if we can't get a couple people to say "yeah, you look good" then we might as well not even apply | 15:35 |
| flaper87 | The graduation request must be sent this week | 15:36 |
| flaper87 | If my maths are correct | 15:36 |
| flaper87 | I'll contact folks and get feedback | 15:36 |
| malini1 | We also need to publish the benchmark numbers prior to that | 15:36 |
| flaper87 | We can sync again on Wednesday | 15:36 |
| flaper87 | malini1: good point | 15:37 |
| kgriffs | malini1: thanks for the reminder. I almost forgot that was my third thing | 15:37 |
| kgriffs | so, that is tied up with redis | 15:37 |
| kgriffs | shall I publish some rough mongodb-only numbers today? | 15:37 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: that'd be good | 15:37 |
| malini1 | We should also get the tempest job going again before the grad request | 15:37 |
| kgriffs | second thing is I think prashanth is traveling this week? | 15:37 |
| flaper87 | Lets start with something, we can publish the rest later | 15:37 |
| flaper87 | I haven't seen him around today, if he's traveling, we may have to update his patch ourselves | 15:38 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: you could also download his patch and use if for the tests | 15:38 |
| flaper87 | before it lands | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | I am pretty sure he is going to be gone all week...so yeah, i was going to ask if you guys think it would be cool for me to take over his patch and land it | 15:38 |
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| kgriffs | flaper87: I could do that, but I'd want to fix that race condition in any case | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I'd say go for it | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | OK. | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | #action kgriffs to land redis patch | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | ok, it seems we're not ready to vote but, lets do a show hands voting | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | #action kgriffs to publish rough benchmark numbers, more later with redis numbers | 15:39 |
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| flaper87 | Assuming we get good feedback from 2 or 3 TC members and the bench results are out. Do you think we should try to graduate? Vote yes/no | 15:40 |
| flaper87 | Yes | 15:40 |
| malini1 | Yes | 15:40 |
| vkmc | yes | 15:40 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: AAzza ? | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | and the redis patch lands | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | yes | 15:41 |
| * flaper87 was giving the redis thing for granted | 15:41 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 15:41 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: ? | 15:42 |
| AAzza | hmm, yes | 15:42 |
| malini1 | hmmm? | 15:42 |
| malini1 | AAzza: should we have covered something else? | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | ok, cool! We can do a final vote in the channel before the end of this week. | 15:42 |
| AAzza | what will be if we fail? | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: we remain incubated | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | for another development cycle | 15:42 |
| * flaper87 hopes | 15:42 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 15:42 |
| vkmc | sad panda | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | Too many things happening in OpenStack lately, The future is cloudy | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on! | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:43 | |
| flaper87 | Sorry for rushing the meeting a bit, I've some, quite delicate, personal matters to take care of in 10mins | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | Before I leave, I wanted to say: | 15:44 |
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| flaper87 | 1. The OPW internship has ended. I'd like to thank AAzza for her amazing job and contributions. I'm really happy with all your work, reviews and support. I hope you'll stick around and keep contributing to the project | 15:45 |
| flaper87 | 2. GSoC has also ended. vkmc I don't think we can thank enough all the things you've done in these last months. Thanks for all your efforts, hard work, contributions. Thanks for helping newcomers and for sticking around with us | 15:45 |
| flaper87 | Both your contributions are really appreciated and you both did an amazing job. | 15:46 |
| AAzza | flaper87: thanks, you all are so friendly and nice , so i definitely will be with zaqar and openstack in the future :) | 15:46 |
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| kgriffs | I'd like to second that. Can't say enough how much we've appreciated your contributions, vkmc and AAzza (and prashanth!) | 15:47 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, flaper87, thanks :) I'm glad that I had the opportunity to work with the Zaqar team and looking forward to do more, stronger, contributions | 15:47 |
| * flaper87 was saving prashanth thanks for when he'd be around :D | 15:48 | |
| flaper87 | but yeah, thanks a lot prashanth for that great new driver you've given us :D | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | :) | 15:48 |
| flaper87 | ok, that's it from me folks | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | in case he reads the log. :p | 15:48 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: well thought :D | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | rock on | 15:48 |
| flaper87 | anything else you'd like to discuss? | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | I'm good. anyone else? | 15:49 |
| malini1 | none from me | 15:49 |
| flaper87 | ok, thank you all! Lets keep the hard work up and focus on reviews! :D | 15:49 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 25 15:49:56 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-08-25-15.10.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-08-25-15.10.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-08-25-15.10.log.html | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | o/ | 15:50 |
| vkmc | thanks all o/ | 15:50 |
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