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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 26 16:00:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 16:00 |
| david-lyle | Hello everyone | 16:00 |
| ericpeterson | hello | 16:00 |
| gary-smith_ | hi | 16:00 |
| jgravel__ | hello | 16:00 |
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| tsufiev | hi | 16:00 |
| TravT | hello | 16:00 |
| absubram___ | hi | 16:00 |
| jpich | Hello | 16:00 |
| amotoki | hello | 16:01 |
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| gugl2 | hi | 16:01 |
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| david-lyle | Let's start with J-3 and the Sept 4 deadline approaching | 16:01 |
| david-lyle | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-3 | 16:01 |
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| david-lyle | I did some cleanup this morning | 16:02 |
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| david-lyle | If there wasn't code posted yet, the bp was moved out of j03 | 16:02 |
| david-lyle | *j-3 | 16:02 |
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| david-lyle | 38 Needs Code Review, 9 Implemented | 16:02 |
| david-lyle | that's a lot left for review | 16:02 |
| jtomasek | hey | 16:03 |
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| jomara | ahoy! | 16:03 |
| david-lyle | many of those seem to be in very good shape and should merge soon | 16:03 |
| david-lyle | others seem like long-shots | 16:03 |
| jpich | At this stage I'd encourage people to not -1 blueprints for nits and small things but file follow-up bugs instead, that can be fixed after feature freeze but in time for the release | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | jpich good point | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | the turn around on fixing nits really drags things out | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | and we can merge bug fixes after Sept 4 | 16:04 |
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| amotoki | but please do not lower the bar on topics on itse architecture/basic directions. | 16:06 |
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| david-lyle | we do have some unassigned high defects as well, if people are looking for things to do :) | 16:06 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: +1 | 16:06 |
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| absubram___ | david-lyle: can I add 3 low priority bug-fixes to this j-3 list? They've all got +1s and have been sitting in review for weeks (need core reviews).. I've had to just keep rebasing them.. I'd like to get them before string freeze as a couple add new strings.. | 16:07 |
| amotoki | For bug triage, we need some process how to triage bugs like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage . | 16:07 |
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| amotoki | absubram___: bug fixes can be done after the feature freeze unless it is not big. | 16:08 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: gary-smith_ has been doing a lot of work in triaging the existing bug list over the past few weeks | 16:08 |
| gary-smith_ | I been trying to follow https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 16:09 |
| amotoki | yes. gary-smith_ made great jobs. | 16:09 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: you have too | 16:09 |
| absubram___ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78708/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65793/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76787/ | 16:09 |
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| absubram___ | amotoki: I know.. these are bugs that add new strings though.. we had this issue during I.. and I don't want to repeat :) | 16:09 |
| absubram___ | we actually didn't get these into I because of the UT issue.. but once that was fixed, these have been just sitting around waiting for reviews.. | 16:10 |
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| amotoki | my concern is bug triage needs domain expertty, so I would like to move forward bug tagging as nova team does. we can discuss later or next week. | 16:10 |
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| david-lyle | amotoki: This is something I'd really like to address as well. So far I've created the Horizon-Bugs team to increase the number of people who can triage bugs. | 16:11 |
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| amotoki | david-lyle: it is nice as the first step. | 16:12 |
| david-lyle | yes, more is needed | 16:12 |
| david-lyle | I'm happy to have the informal areas of expertise become more formal as well | 16:12 |
| david-lyle | but I think there are several areas where there is not a clear domain expert | 16:13 |
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| david-lyle | other than perhaps Horizon core | 16:13 |
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| david-lyle | or are you suggesting assigning it and allowing people to make it their area of expertise? | 16:13 |
| amotoki | what i am thinking is to do tagging first to categorize and then prioritize bugs of some areas. | 16:14 |
| amotoki | several new dashboards were added recently and sometimes it is not easy to check bugs in such areas like heat, trove, sahara ... | 16:16 |
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| amotoki | if we have appropriate tagging, we can attract folks familiar with those areas. of course, we can dive into them. | 16:16 |
| gary-smith_ | amotoki: +1. I would also encourage all the help confirm bugs in the areas they work in. That can be the hardest part of triage | 16:17 |
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| gary-smith_ | c/the/to | 16:17 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: +1 on the tagging | 16:17 |
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| amotoki | this is the reason i like nova process: first tagging, then triage. | 16:18 |
| david-lyle | I think if we just mark all bugs low-hanging fruit, they'll all get picked up ;) | 16:18 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: ok, I understand your point now | 16:18 |
| * david-lyle was lost for a minute | 16:18 | |
| amotoki | but we don't have a list of folks responsible for areas. It is just a startline. | 16:18 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: agreed | 16:18 |
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| amotoki | I will create a draft page like Nova/BugTriage this week and add my some thought. | 16:20 |
| david-lyle | my remaining question is are people going to triage the bugs in the tags they are responsible for? | 16:20 |
| david-lyle | rhetorical, no need to answer | 16:20 |
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| david-lyle | amotoki: thank you, I think it will be a step in the right direction | 16:21 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: it is a separate topic but i cannot answer it too..... but at least tagging helps me triage neutron/network bugs. | 16:21 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: works for me | 16:21 |
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| david-lyle | moving on the agenda for today | 16:22 |
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| david-lyle | I think there is only one item | 16:23 |
| jpich | me me me | 16:23 |
| david-lyle | #topic Documenting more precisely the browser versions we support/test with (jpich) | 16:23 |
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| jpich | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/BrowserSupport | 16:23 |
| jpich | I think it'd be good to track browser support a bit more precisely for each release (e.g. it's hard to remember what "latest version of each browser" means for a previous release, even for a recent one like Icehouse). I think that would be useful data to keep around, even if it starts simply with what people are using Horizon with when developing. | 16:23 |
| jpich | So, please update the charts on that wiki page with whatever you've been testing with, we're particularly lacking in version numbers :) | 16:23 |
| jpich | ...Thank you :-) | 16:24 |
| doug-fish | Thanks jpich! | 16:25 |
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| david-lyle | Thank you jpich. I agree this is an important item to track and be able to point to for reference | 16:25 |
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| david-lyle | It does come up frequently | 16:26 |
| jpich | Indeed | 16:26 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 16:26 |
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| amotoki | I wonder how we can move forward on "More" button on tables. | 16:28 |
| devlaps | we replaced more with a caret about 8 months ago.. | 16:28 |
| devlaps | no complaints from our customers.. | 16:28 |
| amotoki | devlaps: in your deployment version? | 16:28 |
| david-lyle | More seems completely unnecessary to me | 16:28 |
| devlaps | yup | 16:28 |
| tqtran | agree | 16:29 |
| gary-smith_ | +1 | 16:29 |
| david-lyle | I'd like to have it stay as is | 16:29 |
| jpich | I'm concerned that this was added because it was painful enough for a group of people that they decided to write up a patch about it | 16:29 |
| amotoki | as I commented in the bug comment, Japanese translation for "More" is just a **space** :-) | 16:29 |
| devlaps | it was actually our UX designers that suggested removing it.. | 16:30 |
| david-lyle | I smell a settings value compromise | 16:30 |
| devlaps | :) | 16:30 |
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| jpich | The separator wasn't as visible with the previous skin though, so maybe that makes the separation clearer now | 16:30 |
| amotoki | one suggestion from liz in bug comments is to add "hover". | 16:30 |
| devlaps | that's a nice compromise.. | 16:30 |
| jpich | david-lyle: No, no more settings :( | 16:30 |
| tqtran | lol | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | just 20 or 30 more | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | I promise | 16:31 |
| doug-fish | Maybe a setting to enable the additonal settings? | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | no, really, I think we can just use the caret | 16:31 |
| tqtran | the easilest solution is to shove it off to settings and call it a win-win | 16:31 |
| devlaps | with a default | 16:31 |
| jpich | Ah, for people without context: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115287/ + https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19082/ | 16:31 |
| jpich | A new setting is a loss | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | we have enough space issues without adding superfluous wording | 16:31 |
| devlaps | right | 16:32 |
| devlaps | it saves a lot.. | 16:32 |
| amotoki | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1357487 | 16:32 |
| jpich | Let's choose one way and people can override the template if they wish to | 16:32 |
| david-lyle | jpich agred | 16:32 |
| david-lyle | *agreed | 16:32 |
| david-lyle | want to vote or just go with the caret? | 16:33 |
| amotoki | +1. The majority here and bug reports like a way without "More" and some usability test result stands... | 16:33 |
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| jpich | The developer consensus seem to be toward not having "more" anymore. I'll just abandon the patch since it doesn't look like it's going to move forward anymore as is anyway | 16:33 |
| david-lyle | jpich, I mainly wanted to hear the uproar in favor of "More" | 16:34 |
| david-lyle | I haven't really witnessed that | 16:34 |
| amotoki | One thing to note is a comment in the reivew: I think adding "More" was raised by a user in China, so would be great to hear the thoughts from reviewers in China. | 16:34 |
| tqtran | if there isnt a "more" word in japanese, i doubt there is one in chinese? | 16:35 |
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| gugl2 | amotoki, caret works for Chinese | 16:35 |
| gugl2 | there is a work for Chinese, but caret works too | 16:35 |
| gugl2 | s/work/word | 16:35 |
| jpich | david-lyle: It's more like, there's no problems now. It's after the release we might the Big "More" Comeback Movement get started ;) | 16:36 |
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| jpich | I mean the initial patch doesn't seem to be coming from a company, it's someone who felt enough pain they decided to try and fix it | 16:36 |
| david-lyle | I look forward to the speeches and pamphlets | 16:36 |
| gary-smith_ | A similar question: how to we proceed with "Server" vs. "Instance" ? ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1319088 ) | 16:36 |
| jpich | I'm concerned that it's mainly the developers who are saying "yeah sure it's totally obvious and easy to understand" | 16:37 |
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| devlaps | jpich: from our experience, that's not the case.. we didn't have a single customer ticket after the switchover (but that is just us...) | 16:38 |
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| amotoki | I wonder where is a better place to ask? is it better to ask it in ops-list or general list? | 16:38 |
| david-lyle | devlaps: switchover? | 16:38 |
| devlaps | david-lyle: from "more" to caret.. | 16:39 |
| devlaps | oopss.. | 16:39 |
| devlaps | still on the last discussion point.. sorry about that.. | 16:39 |
| david-lyle | no worries, just thought maybe you switched from Instance to Server | 16:39 |
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| devlaps | not yet.. but we definitely need to address this.. | 16:39 |
| amotoki | no worries. both are similar topic. | 16:39 |
| jpich_ | I'm sorry, there's a power cut where I am - for the Server/Instance thing I wish it's worth a multi-project conversation on the ML | 16:40 |
| jpich_ | er... s/wish/think/ | 16:40 |
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| david-lyle | I'd like to see us align with docs more than anyone else | 16:41 |
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| jpich_ | I think it's confusing when the CLI and Horizon have different words too, especially for such an essential concept | 16:42 |
| doug-fish | jpich_, agreed | 16:42 |
| david-lyle | jpich_: to be fair, I think we are targeting different personas | 16:42 |
| amotoki | jpich_: agree | 16:42 |
| david-lyle | but it's a valid point | 16:42 |
| david-lyle | there should be consistency | 16:43 |
| david-lyle | and we can change much easier than the CLIs and APIs | 16:43 |
| amotoki | in addition, "instance" is used in various context. | 16:43 |
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| david-lyle | what happens when Ironic becomes integrated? what's the term then? | 16:44 |
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| david-lyle | I think this requires some more input. I think a mailing list thread is probably the best bet | 16:45 |
| sambetts | I prefer the use of Instance for virtual machines/lxcs etc. and Server for physical hosts | 16:46 |
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| david-lyle | the more topic was different than I originally believed, was thinking pagination | 16:48 |
| david-lyle | on that line | 16:49 |
| david-lyle | I think we have to adopt our own pagination representation and use that across all projects regardless of how they present pagination | 16:49 |
| david-lyle | to do that, we need the client side pagination and table patches | 16:50 |
| david-lyle | but that's a Kilo item :) | 16:50 |
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| david-lyle | just curious of others' thoughts on that | 16:50 |
| amotoki | regaring "pagination", Filtering with pagination in horizon doesn't work practically.... | 16:50 |
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| david-lyle | right, we need the list on the client side and filter/paginate there | 16:51 |
| devlaps | right.. | 16:51 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, does client-side pagination reduce the amount of items returned on one request? | 16:51 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: well no, that's the downside | 16:51 |
| david-lyle | of course | 16:51 |
| clu_ | :( | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | the number displayed on the client is limited | 16:52 |
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| david-lyle | but the data is all there | 16:52 |
| sambetts | wouldn't it be possible to setup a ajax based pagination system maintaining a cache of items on the webserver? | 16:53 |
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| rbertram | david-lyle: I assume client-side pagination (like clu_) for tables without too many rows? And something else for long tables like instances? | 16:53 |
| tsufiev | sambetts, +1 | 16:53 |
| devlaps | david-lyle: for data sets < 1000 entries (potentially more) client-side gives a nice ux | 16:53 |
| rbertram | sambetts: +1 | 16:53 |
| david-lyle | sambetts: yes | 16:53 |
| devlaps | and yes to the caching.. | 16:53 |
| devlaps | only problem is cache invalidation :) | 16:53 |
| devlaps | which is a problem anyway.. | 16:53 |
| david-lyle | but that's a problem on the client as well | 16:54 |
| devlaps | yup | 16:54 |
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| devlaps | it would be great to solve this though.. it's a really *big* usability issue.. | 16:54 |
| david-lyle | but I think our strategy has to be get the exhaustive list and store it either on the server or the client and paginate/filter from that list | 16:54 |
| david-lyle | devlaps: absolutel | 16:55 |
| david-lyle | y | 16:55 |
| david-lyle | ! | 16:55 |
| david-lyle | ha | 16:55 |
| devlaps | especially with customers that have large numbers of HV/Server/Instances | 16:55 |
| devlaps | :) | 16:55 |
| david-lyle | and we have no consistency | 16:55 |
| devlaps | right.. | 16:55 |
| tqtran | *cough cough* wouldnt moving toward angular client-side work help this goal in the long run? | 16:55 |
| rbertram | david-lyle: we need async refresh through the cache up to the browser. Not easy. | 16:55 |
| devlaps | tqtran: we have some work on this | 16:55 |
| devlaps | would be happy to share.. | 16:56 |
| rbertram | tqtran: +1 | 16:56 |
| david-lyle | tqtran: yes | 16:56 |
| sambetts | I would be easier to fix cache invalidation at the webserver level than at the clientside, is there no way for horizon to get a trigger off openstack if something changes? | 16:56 |
| devlaps | yup | 16:56 |
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| tqtran | once everything becomes passing json, it becomes easy to do ajax request from cache | 16:56 |
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| david-lyle | sambetts: not now, we can try to tie in to the event queues, but that's a much bigger item, although highly desired | 16:57 |
| devlaps | actually.. there is some work already done to do this.. | 16:57 |
| devlaps | digging up the url.. | 16:57 |
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| david-lyle | would love event driven notifications | 16:57 |
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| devlaps | yup. it includes that.. | 16:58 |
| david-lyle | there was a proof of concept some time ago | 16:58 |
| rbertram | david-lyle +1 on events | 16:58 |
| devlaps | david-lyle: it was pretty nice and easy to get up and running.. | 16:58 |
| gary-smith_ | hopefully could be leveraged for getting messages from async operations | 16:58 |
| amotoki | BTW, regarding review priorities, is it better to focus on reviews related blueprints over bugs this week? | 16:59 |
| david-lyle | devlaps: just a major change and those are harder to land | 16:59 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: absolutely, we can land the bugs post Sept 4 | 16:59 |
| devlaps | david-lyle: unfortunately, yes. but a big win if we could land it! | 16:59 |
| david-lyle | and if we want things to land, it's best to get them in the queue this week rather than next | 16:59 |
| devlaps | Btw, if folks are interested in some of the UX work we have done recently, I gave a presentation on Horizon last week at CloudOpen: http://slidesha.re/1pkqQRn. There are some screenshots towards the end of some of our customization and statistics work. We also have quite a few additional UX modifications in the pipeline (hope to upstream soon!). Any feedback welcome… | 16:59 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: the consensus on priority is important :-) | 16:59 |
| david-lyle | yes BP reviews this week please | 17:00 |
| david-lyle | out of time | 17:00 |
| david-lyle | happy reviewing | 17:00 |
| david-lyle | and keep the wheels turning for Kilo | 17:00 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 26 17:01:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-08-26-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-08-26-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
| david-lyle | Thanks everyone | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-08-26-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
| amotoki | thanks | 17:01 |
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| devlaps | thanks all! | 17:01 |
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| pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 26 17:02:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:02 |
| pballand | hello everyone | 17:02 |
| harrisonkelly | hey | 17:02 |
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| pballand | harrisonkelly: good morning/afternoon | 17:02 |
| pballand | I expect a small crowd this week due to confrerences | 17:03 |
| pballand | anyone else around? | 17:03 |
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| sarob | sarob | 17:03 |
| sarob | is | 17:03 |
| sarob | here | 17:03 |
| pballand | hey sarob | 17:03 |
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| pballand | lets just give a quick status update for those reading the logs, and get back up to speed next week | 17:04 |
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| pballand | harrisonkelly: you’ve been hard at work - how’s DSE going? | 17:04 |
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| pballand | harrisonkelly: seems to have fallen asleep | 17:05 |
| harrisonkelly | good, I think i finished getting the DSE to use eventlets | 17:05 |
| harrisonkelly | If there is anything left to do on the DSE, I can start working on something else | 17:06 |
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| pballand | cool - once thinrichs takes a look, we should be able to merge it | 17:06 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: there is plenty of stuff needed - it would be great if you have the cycles | 17:06 |
| pballand | the first item that comes to mind is to add functionality to the cage to query the status of each datsource | 17:06 |
| harrisonkelly | I have some time this week, but I’m going to have less starting next week because of school | 17:06 |
| harrisonkelly | what do you mean by status? Like ‘running’ or ‘stopped’? | 17:07 |
| pballand | basically, each datasource should have basic health like {running, error}, and other fields like ‘last_update_time’ | 17:08 |
| pballand | those are just (bad) examples | 17:08 |
| harrisonkelly | So basically any information that I can collect from the services? | 17:08 |
| pballand | ultimately, the requirement is for the policy engine to be able to understand when a datasource is having trouble | 17:08 |
| pballand | for example, the neutron plugin may be up and running, but may have connection issues with the Neutron API endpoint | 17:09 |
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| pballand | the info will also be exposed on the /v1/data-sources/<ds-id>/status API path | 17:09 |
| harrisonkelly | ok, I can take a look into that | 17:10 |
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| pballand | harrisonkelly: that would be great - unfortunately we don’t have a spec for the work yet, so that would be a good place to start so we can refine the design | 17:11 |
| harrisonkelly | ok, I’ll start that today | 17:11 |
| pballand | great! | 17:11 |
| pballand | sarob: did you want to update us on specs | 17:12 |
| sarob | righto | 17:12 |
| sarob | the basics are merged | 17:12 |
| sarob | i am going to backport a few blueprints to specs | 17:13 |
| sarob | that are missing specs | 17:13 |
| sarob | i will be proposing a way to track | 17:13 |
| sarob | specs between releases | 17:13 |
| sarob | thats it | 17:13 |
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| pballand | sarob: that’s great - can you please update the wiki with the new link to specs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Congress#How_To_Create_a_Blueprint | 17:14 |
| sarob | will do | 17:14 |
| pballand | perfect | 17:14 |
| sarob | thanks for noticing | 17:14 |
| pballand | looks like a couple other people joined - for those coming in, we’re on a skeleton crew due to concurrent conferences this week | 17:14 |
| pballand | anyone else have updates they want to discuss this week? | 17:15 |
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| pballand | From a project status standpoint we tagged an alpha release last week, and are pushing for people to try out the code | 17:16 |
| pballand | the POC use case is working from a demo perspective, and we will be shifting to filing out the rough edges | 17:16 |
| * sarob wiki updated with new spec repo location | 17:17 | |
| pballand | sarob: thanks | 17:17 |
| pballand | the other item coming up is the policy summit - sarob has been leading that - can you give us an update? | 17:17 |
| sarob | the policy summit etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-policy-summit | 17:18 |
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| sarob | needs some attention | 17:18 |
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| sarob | we have 38 people signed up for the event | 17:18 |
| sarob | i have mikal on the hook for both finding us a nova policy standin | 17:19 |
| sarob | and updating the nova policy session on the etherpad | 17:19 |
| sarob | i have some notes from mikal that i will be | 17:19 |
| sarob | putting into the etherpad agenda as well | 17:19 |
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| sarob | thats it | 17:19 |
| pballand | cool, thanks sarob | 17:20 |
| sarob | ;) | 17:20 |
| pballand | if there are topics that are near and dear to you to discuss at the summit, be sure to add them to the etherpad | 17:20 |
| pballand | that’s all I had for this week | 17:21 |
| pballand | #topic Open Discussion | 17:21 |
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| kudva | Hi, I have a problem with install | 17:21 |
| kudva | trying to check in some code which I need to test. standalone install fails. Any guesses on what it may be? | 17:22 |
| pballand | hi kudva what are you running for install? | 17:22 |
| kudva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1360629 | 17:22 |
| kudva | pballand: cloned from git and followed the "standalone" instructions (not devstack) in the README | 17:23 |
| pballand | what OS / version ? | 17:23 |
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| kudva | Ubuntu Precise I think | 17:23 |
| kudva | Recommend a different one? | 17:23 |
| rajdeep | what is your tox version? | 17:23 |
| kudva | rajdeep: let me check | 17:24 |
| rajdeep | please make sure it is tox 1.5 | 17:24 |
| kudva | rajdeep: will do. Will reinstall and try again. Thanks! | 17:24 |
| pballand | a lot of the OpenStack packages have specific package version dependencies that conflict with what Ubuntu has in APT | 17:24 |
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| pballand | in general, try to uninstall any python dependencies installed from apt, and install from pip instead | 17:25 |
| rajdeep | even pip version can give heart burns | 17:26 |
| kudva | pballand: ah, got it, will try that :) | 17:26 |
| rajdeep | make sure you install latest pip | 17:26 |
| kudva | rajdeep: I have pip. It's possible I have a mix of pip and apt installs. need to clean up | 17:26 |
| rajdeep | python get-pip.py | 17:26 |
| rajdeep | please don't use apt-get to install pip | 17:26 |
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| rajdeep | it installs older version..hence your issues | 17:27 |
| kudva | rajdeep: okay, I'll clean up all the packages and start over | 17:27 |
| kudva | rajdeep; thanks | 17:27 |
| rajdeep | kudva : my pleasure | 17:27 |
| rajdeep | python reminds me of dll | 17:27 |
| rajdeep | :) | 17:27 |
| pballand | kudva: thanks for the report - if there is anything we can do to make the instructions more clear, please let us know (or submit a patch) :) | 17:28 |
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| kudva | pballand: I'll redo everything and summarize for the benefit of others who may try standalone | 17:28 |
| pballand | kudva: thanks so much! | 17:29 |
| rajdeep | perhaps check pip / tox versions | 17:29 |
| rajdeep | in a script | 17:29 |
| kudva | rajdeep: okay | 17:30 |
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| pballand | kudva: have you been able to use run_tests.py instead of tox? | 17:31 |
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| kudva | pballand: didnt' try this time. Just followed instructions in README | 17:32 |
| pballand | kudva: ah - I didn’t realize we suggested tox instead of run_tests | 17:34 |
| pballand | not sure why that is | 17:34 |
| kudva | pballand: okay, in that case, let me do a clean install and try both run_tests and tox | 17:34 |
| pballand | that would be really helpful | 17:34 |
| pballand | any other concerns or comments for this forum? | 17:36 |
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| pballand | ok, thanks for coming this week | 17:37 |
| pballand | #endmeeting | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 26 17:38:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-08-26-17.02.html | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-08-26-17.02.txt | 17:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-08-26-17.02.log.html | 17:38 |
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