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Piet | Are we meeting? | 17:03 |
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david-lyle | Piet: I have it slated for next week, but I could be wrong | 17:04 |
Piet | k | 17:04 |
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david-lyle | yeah, should be next week, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/UX | 17:05 |
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flaper87 | #startmeeting Zaqar | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 15 21:00:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 21:00 |
flaper87 | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: vkmc malini | 21:01 |
flaper87 | mmh, anyone ? | 21:02 |
vkmc | o/ | 21:02 |
flaper87 | vkmc: hey :D | 21:02 |
flaper87 | looks like it'll be a chat between you and me today | 21:02 |
kgriffs | o/ | 21:02 |
vkmc | flaper87, and kgriffs! :D | 21:02 |
flaper87 | there he is | 21:02 |
flaper87 | :D | 21:02 |
* kgriffs drinks teh powerade | 21:02 | |
* kgriffs is ready to rock | 21:02 | |
flaper87 | ok, lets do it | 21:03 |
flaper87 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda | 21:03 |
flaper87 | #topic Smoke testing planning for RC (kgriffs) | 21:03 |
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flaper87 | actually, wait | 21:03 |
flaper87 | actions | 21:03 |
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flaper87 | #topic review actions from last meeting | 21:03 |
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flaper87 | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-09-08-15.00.html | 21:03 |
flaper87 | vkmc To document where API checks should go (API or Storage layer) | 21:03 |
vkmc | flaper87, already in the review queue | 21:04 |
flaper87 | vkmc: sweet | 21:04 |
flaper87 | do you have a link? | 21:04 |
vkmc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121424/ | 21:04 |
vkmc | sure thing | 21:04 |
flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121424/ | 21:04 |
vkmc | let me know if the location I chose is ok | 21:04 |
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vkmc | or if it fits better somewhere else | 21:04 |
flaper87 | sure thing, thanks vkmc | 21:04 |
flaper87 | next action | 21:05 |
vkmc | np | 21:05 |
flaper87 | flaper87 to start adding v1.1 to the client | 21:05 |
flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-zaqarclient+branch:master+topic:bp/api-v1,n,z | 21:05 |
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flaper87 | it's all up for review | 21:05 |
flaper87 | ok, lets move on | 21:05 |
vkmc | yup, I'll review the ones you added earlier tonight | 21:05 |
flaper87 | vkmc: +1 | 21:05 |
flaper87 | #topic Smoke testing planning for RC (kgriffs) | 21:05 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: floor is yours | 21:05 |
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kgriffs | ok, so I had put that up there because I wanted to make sure the RC was rock-solid | 21:06 |
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kgriffs | one thing that doesn't get a lot of testing in pooling | 21:06 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: +1 | 21:06 |
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kgriffs | and also keystone middleware, although there shouldn't be a big issue there | 21:06 |
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vkmc | kgriffs, +1 | 21:07 |
flwang1 | o/ sorry for the late | 21:07 |
flaper87 | I've been meaning to setup pooling in devstack by default | 21:07 |
vkmc | hi flwang1 \o | 21:07 |
flwang1 | hey guys | 21:07 |
flaper87 | I'll try to do that next week | 21:07 |
flaper87 | flwang1: 'sup ? | 21:07 |
kgriffs | hi flwang1 | 21:07 |
flaper87 | #action flaper87 to make devstack use pools by default | 21:07 |
vkmc | I have been inspecting the errors in functional testing for pools today | 21:08 |
vkmc | currently we are skipping those tests | 21:08 |
kgriffs | oh | 21:08 |
vkmc | I also had to add the tests for v1.0, will do that for next week | 21:08 |
flaper87 | vkmc: +1 we need to stop skiping them | 21:08 |
* flwang1 is frustrating with nova evacuate + ceph recently | 21:08 | |
kgriffs | so, let me tell you what I've been up to and we can see if there is any other RC testing we need to get done | 21:08 |
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kgriffs | saturday I started setting up a new testing cluster | 21:09 |
kgriffs | ubuntu 14.04 | 21:09 |
kgriffs | instead of deb 7 | 21:09 |
kgriffs | (since I can now get that at Rackspace) | 21:09 |
kgriffs | so, I have one load generator, one load balancer running nginx (I didn't want to mess with haproxy right now) | 21:09 |
kgriffs | 2 web heads, although I will probably add 1-2 more | 21:10 |
kgriffs | 1 db box currently running a single redis instance | 21:10 |
kgriffs | and then I kept the 3-member replica set for mongo because... | 21:10 |
kgriffs | I needed a pool catalog and redis driver doesn't support that | 21:10 |
kgriffs | so what I have now | 21:10 |
kgriffs | is zaqar set up in a pooled configuration | 21:11 |
kgriffs | I have been hammering it all day with lots of tests with varying load, each test run 5 minutes | 21:11 |
kgriffs | the pool only has a single redis node in it right now | 21:11 |
kgriffs | and I only have one web head active | 21:11 |
kgriffs | my plan is to do another round after adding a web head | 21:11 |
kgriffs | (up to 4) | 21:12 |
flaper87 | all that sounds really good | 21:12 |
flaper87 | Any numbers you can share? | 21:12 |
kgriffs | at that point I'm thinking redis will saturate and I will add 1-3 more procs to the pool | 21:12 |
vkmc | sweeet | 21:13 |
kgriffs | re smoke testing, everything looks great from the server side. Very reliable, although stdev goes high towards the end, no failed requests | 21:13 |
kgriffs | but | 21:13 |
kgriffs | I did have some trouble getting zaqar-bench working since the patch to remove the v1 from the import statement | 21:13 |
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flaper87 | mmmh | 21:14 |
flaper87 | sorry about that. Any clue of what the error was about ? | 21:14 |
kgriffs | can't remember for sure | 21:14 |
flaper87 | It'd be weird if it's related to that but you know... software | 21:14 |
kgriffs | but somebody should go run that with everything latest and see if it is OK. I might have reverted and put the v1 back in, and then I had to hack the claim_id param in python-zaqarclient again | 21:14 |
kgriffs | let me see | 21:15 |
flaper87 | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-zaqarclient/tree/zaqarclient/queues/client.py | 21:15 |
kgriffs | wait | 21:15 |
kgriffs | I lied | 21:15 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: ^ that's what the client do | 21:15 |
flaper87 | does* | 21:15 |
kgriffs | I think that might have been a red herring | 21:15 |
flaper87 | oh ok | 21:15 |
kgriffs | and I did end up removing v1 module | 21:15 |
kgriffs | but the claim_id error was still preventing me from deleting claimed messages | 21:16 |
flaper87 | right, that has been taken care of, IIRC | 21:16 |
flaper87 | vkmc: ^ | 21:16 |
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kgriffs | until I hacked messages.py in the client lib to accept a claim_id param in __init__ | 21:16 |
flaper87 | I think I reviewed/approed your patch | 21:16 |
flaper87 | vkmc: ^ | 21:16 |
kgriffs | at least, as of saturday | 21:16 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah, I +2 on sunday | 21:16 |
flaper87 | IIRC | 21:16 |
kgriffs | oic | 21:16 |
kgriffs | gtk | 21:16 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: thanks a lot for working on all that | 21:17 |
flaper87 | really | 21:17 |
kgriffs | thanks | 21:17 |
flaper87 | it's been really helpful and encouraging | 21:17 |
kgriffs | oh, I should also mention | 21:17 |
flaper87 | Do you think we can make that server you're using a third-party CI for benches ? | 21:17 |
flaper87 | until we get rally going | 21:17 |
kgriffs | I added stdev, mean, max, and 99 percentile to zaqar-bench | 21:17 |
vkmc | flaper87, that one depends in kgriffs patch | 21:17 |
vkmc | flaper87, I added the comment on Gerrit | 21:18 |
flaper87 | vkmc: oh, mmh. | 21:18 |
flaper87 | vkmc: ok | 21:18 |
kgriffs | I was going to use Tsung, but it was going to be a real pain to model our scenarious so I thought it would be quicker to keep using zaqar-bench | 21:18 |
flaper87 | I'll take a look again in a bit | 21:18 |
kgriffs | (for now) | 21:18 |
vkmc | kgriffs -2 it because we didn't know the root cause | 21:18 |
kgriffs | vkmc: yeah, TBH I haven't had time to dig into that | 21:18 |
flaper87 | vkmc: wait, are we talking about the same patch? | 21:18 |
flaper87 | vkmc: link? :D | 21:18 |
kgriffs | if someone could investigate, that would be cool | 21:18 |
vkmc | flaper87, the claims_id one | 21:18 |
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vkmc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120867/ | 21:19 |
kgriffs | flaper87: vkmc's patch depends on my patch that moves deleting queues to the end of the test instead of beginning, | 21:19 |
vkmc | depends on | 21:19 |
vkmc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119900/1 | 21:19 |
flaper87 | ah ok, but I guess we can make it not depend on yours | 21:19 |
kgriffs | yeah, it's just that without my patch zaqar-bench hangs everytime | 21:20 |
kgriffs | super strange | 21:20 |
vkmc | sure thing | 21:20 |
vkmc | yeap ^ | 21:20 |
flaper87 | at least we can move that one forward | 21:20 |
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flaper87 | yeah but the gate is not blocked on that, right? | 21:20 |
kgriffs | no, we don't have a job that runs zaqar-bench do we? | 21:20 |
flaper87 | at least you can pull that one from master and the bench env should work | 21:20 |
flaper87 | without hacking the client | 21:20 |
kgriffs | right | 21:20 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: not yet, I'd like to add one but I don't think infra will be happy if we load the server :P | 21:20 |
flaper87 | not sure, I should probably ask | 21:21 |
vkmc | IIRC that bug appeared after kgriffs fix | 21:21 |
kgriffs | regarding numbers, I will have some graphs soon on the wiki | 21:21 |
vkmc | without kgriffs fix, it just enters a loop | 21:21 |
kgriffs | but for now | 21:21 |
flaper87 | vkmc: if you can make your patch not depend on kgriffs's we can approve it today | 21:21 |
vkmc | flaper87, will do | 21:21 |
flaper87 | we'll investigate the other issue | 21:21 |
kgriffs | keeping observers steady at 50, but increasing producers | 21:21 |
kgriffs | we peak at about 5000 messages posted/sec | 21:21 |
kgriffs | that is for 1 web head and the CPUs end up at about 80% | 21:22 |
flaper87 | sweet | 21:22 |
flaper87 | sweet sweet sweet | 21:22 |
kgriffs | redis box is doing like 50% | 21:22 |
kgriffs | (for one CPU) | 21:22 |
kgriffs | web heads are 20 CPUs | 21:22 |
flaper87 | and no fancy configs, right? | 21:22 |
kgriffs | I don't recall what nginx was (4 workers) but probably around 50% each proc | 21:22 |
kgriffs | flaper87: I didn't spend a ton of time tuning configs. mostly defaults I think. | 21:23 |
kgriffs | but I will post them and you can see | 21:23 |
flaper87 | that's even better | 21:23 |
flaper87 | if we're doing good with default, I guess tuning them will help increasing those numbers | 21:23 |
kgriffs | nah, we need to suck more | 21:23 |
kgriffs | ;) | 21:24 |
flaper87 | :P | 21:24 |
flaper87 | ROFL | 21:24 |
flaper87 | ok cool | 21:24 |
flaper87 | again, kgriffs, thanks for all that work. | 21:24 |
kgriffs | sure | 21:24 |
flaper87 | if there are no more questions, lets move on | 21:24 |
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flaper87 | #topic Zaqar client | 21:24 |
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kgriffs | btw, it takes forever to run these, but I'll try to trickle out the results as much as possible | 21:25 |
vkmc | thanks kgriffs :D | 21:25 |
kgriffs | yw | 21:25 |
kgriffs | :D | 21:25 |
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flaper87 | so, very quick. I don't mean to put any preassure on anyone but we need to release the client before the 18th | 21:25 |
flaper87 | so... | 21:25 |
flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-zaqarclient,n,z | 21:25 |
flaper87 | also, I'm working on this: | 21:25 |
flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120437/3 | 21:25 |
flaper87 | if you guys want to take a look it'd be cool | 21:26 |
flaper87 | (especially malini) | 21:26 |
flwang1 | I will review them | 21:26 |
flaper87 | I'll let her know | 21:26 |
flaper87 | I think all v1.1 patches are up | 21:26 |
flaper87 | I also fixed the functional tests | 21:26 |
flaper87 | and other things that I found on my way | 21:26 |
flaper87 | if there's anything missing please, by all means, don't tell me | 21:27 |
flaper87 | :P | 21:27 |
flaper87 | jokes apart, fix it | 21:27 |
flaper87 | now seriously, let me know :) | 21:27 |
flaper87 | I'll happily work on that | 21:27 |
flaper87 | any questions? otherwise let's move on | 21:27 |
flaper87 | cool | 21:28 |
flaper87 | #topic What had to be said has been said, I hope | 21:28 |
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flaper87 | well, you know. 2 weeks, 1 thread and a half, lots of emails, tons of comments. 2 meetings, lot of noise and mixed emotions | 21:28 |
flaper87 | if something hasn't been said, I believe it's already becoming quite late. that said, anything could happen. | 21:29 |
flaper87 | Our third, and last, meeting is tomorrow. 20 UTC | 21:29 |
flwang1 | will it be the final decision? | 21:29 |
flaper87 | Our time during the meeting will be, AFAIK, dedicated to vote | 21:29 |
flaper87 | flwang1: yes | 21:29 |
flaper87 | no more 3h discussions | 21:29 |
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flaper87 | few comments and then vote | 21:29 |
flaper87 | whatever happens, I'm very proud of what we've accomplished and more importantly we'll keep doing it | 21:30 |
flaper87 | so, thank you all and lets keep up the amazing work | 21:30 |
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flwang1 | my feeling is most like awaiting trial | 21:30 |
flaper87 | LOOOOOL | 21:30 |
vkmc | +1 flwang1 | 21:30 |
flaper87 | yeah, pretty much that | 21:30 |
vkmc | I feel the same way | 21:31 |
flwang1 | I mean I can't control my fate | 21:31 |
flaper87 | you can add to that a few head bangs on the desk | 21:31 |
flaper87 | flwang1: that sounds, you can't trust the system | 21:31 |
flaper87 | :P | 21:31 |
flaper87 | anyway... questions? thoughts? etc? move on? | 21:31 |
flwang1 | flaper87: you know what I mean, man | 21:31 |
flaper87 | flwang1: I do know ;) | 21:31 |
vkmc | but hey, questions regarding the design or the tools used in Zaqar has been replied | 21:31 |
kgriffs | idk if it will make any difference, but I'll try to publish another round of perf test results before tomorrow | 21:32 |
flwang1 | i assume there is no appeal :) | 21:32 |
vkmc | and the team did the best to clear things up | 21:32 |
vkmc | +1 kgriffs | 21:32 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: I think it's important, yes. | 21:32 |
kgriffs | kk | 21:32 |
flwang1 | kgriffs: thanks for your effort, it's awesome | 21:32 |
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kgriffs | thanks man | 21:33 |
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flaper87 | muahahahaha | 21:33 |
vkmc | :) | 21:33 |
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flaper87 | LOL | 21:33 |
* kgriffs everyone's invited to his house | 21:33 | |
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flaper87 | the pop-tart-zombie apocalypse | 21:34 |
kgriffs | it will be scary. and delicious | 21:34 |
flaper87 | ok, anything else? | 21:34 |
flaper87 | ROFL | 21:34 |
flaper87 | #topic Summit sessions submission | 21:34 |
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flaper87 | ok, heads up... again :) | 21:34 |
flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-zaqar-summit-topics | 21:34 |
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flaper87 | put whatever you want to talk about there. There won't be a design session tool this time | 21:35 |
flaper87 | we'll help organizing and prioritizing things ourselves using our own tools | 21:35 |
flaper87 | I figured it'd be better to stick with the already existing etherpad so put things in that link | 21:35 |
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flaper87 | We'll start discussing those sessions in our meetings starting next week | 21:35 |
kgriffs | ok | 21:36 |
flaper87 | one of those proposals will be used for the next OPW mentee | 21:36 |
flaper87 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen/Ideas#Coding | 21:36 |
flaper87 | Zaqar has been participating in OPW for the last 2 cycles | 21:36 |
flaper87 | I'm very proud of this and I'm super proud of our mentees | 21:36 |
vkmc | :D | 21:36 |
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flaper87 | I think we should keep giving back to the community and OPW is a good way to do that | 21:37 |
flaper87 | I've put myself as a mentor but please, if you've an idea and want to mentor do not hesitate to add it | 21:37 |
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flaper87 | WE've got enough good, exiting and hard enough tasks that new mentees can work on | 21:37 |
flaper87 | that's it from me | 21:38 |
flaper87 | questions? | 21:38 |
* kgriffs is cool | 21:38 | |
flaper87 | #topic Rally | 21:38 |
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flaper87 | we talked with boris-42 last week and he volunteered to host a hangout where he would explain us how Rally works | 21:39 |
flaper87 | internals and whatnot | 21:39 |
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flwang1 | I contacted with him as well | 21:39 |
flaper87 | it'd be cool if we all can participate. What time would work for you ? | 21:39 |
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flaper87 | is 21 UTC good ? (that would be this exact time) | 21:39 |
flwang1 | i was told we just need 20 mins to get a plugin in Rally :) | 21:39 |
flaper87 | flwang1: yeah, it looks easy | 21:39 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: vkmc flwang1 is 21 UTC ok? | 21:40 |
flwang1 | i'm OK | 21:40 |
vkmc | I'm ok too | 21:40 |
flaper87 | I was thinking on proposing Thursday | 21:40 |
vkmc | when is it? | 21:40 |
flwang1 | but TC hate simple/easy stuff | 21:40 |
kgriffs | let me see | 21:40 |
kgriffs | thur at 2100 should work | 21:41 |
flaper87 | sweet, ok. | 21:41 |
vkmc | cool, it works for me too | 21:41 |
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flaper87 | I'll let boris-42 know (unless we woke him up with all this pings) | 21:41 |
flaper87 | Thur, 21 UTC it is | 21:41 |
flaper87 | he said he'd be in PST this week and the next week so, I'm sure he won't be asleep | 21:42 |
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flaper87 | any questions? | 21:42 |
* flaper87 doesn't use a pillow | 21:42 | |
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flaper87 | ok, I lied | 21:42 |
* kgriffs curses! foiled again. | 21:42 | |
flaper87 | I just thought that was fun | 21:42 |
flaper87 | :P | 21:42 |
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flaper87 | anyway | 21:43 |
flaper87 | #topic open discussion | 21:43 |
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flaper87 | please, review the client patches | 21:43 |
flaper87 | :P | 21:43 |
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vkmc | please review the CLI patches as well | 21:44 |
vkmc | :p | 21:44 |
flaper87 | ... or frozens it again | 21:44 |
flaper87 | :P | 21:44 |
flaper87 | vkmc: +1 | 21:44 |
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vkmc | so we have client v1.1 and CLI v1.0 | 21:44 |
flaper87 | vkmc: well, to be fair that cli works for v1.1 too | 21:44 |
flaper87 | at least it should | 21:44 |
flaper87 | most of it | 21:44 |
* flaper87 hopes | 21:44 | |
flaper87 | :) | 21:44 |
vkmc | yeah :) | 21:44 |
flaper87 | cool, that's it, folks | 21:45 |
flaper87 | have a great rest of the day you all! | 21:45 |
kgriffs | groovy | 21:45 |
kgriffs | thanks Mr. Percoco | 21:45 |
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vkmc | thanks Fla, you too! | 21:45 |
flaper87 | #endmeeting | 21:45 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 15 21:45:57 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-09-15-21.00.html | 21:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-09-15-21.00.txt | 21:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-09-15-21.00.log.html | 21:46 |
vkmc | and everyone else, cheers o/ | 21:46 |
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parkit | #endmeeting | 23:02 |
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