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| danpb | #startmeeting libvirt | 15:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 16 15:03:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is danpb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: libvirt)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'libvirt' | 15:03 |
| danpb | hi, is anyone here waiting for libvirt meeting ? | 15:03 |
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| sew1 | o/ | 15:04 |
| s1rp | o/ | 15:04 |
| danpb | there's no agenda items today so.... | 15:05 |
| danpb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: libvirt)" | 15:05 | |
| s1rp | danpb: we have a patch for the /run/initctl issue... we're testing it now, should probably make it to the ML later this week | 15:06 |
| danpb | excellant | 15:06 |
| s1rp | we're doing cold snapshots for LXC (using LVM cow was a pain for a number of reasons); so we need that patch to have the container actually shutdown | 15:07 |
| s1rp | the LVM cold snapshot code is basically done, and we'll try to upstream it in the coming days | 15:08 |
| s1rp | that's it from me | 15:09 |
| sew1 | speaking of shutdown, it also looks like there's been some mailing list activity wrt lxc shutdown and setns support: | 15:09 |
| sew1 | https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2014-September/msg00529.html | 15:09 |
| danpb | yep, i think the patches are all committed now though | 15:10 |
| sew1 | sweet | 15:10 |
| sew1 | so will the stable 1.2.3 branch eventually see those commits? | 15:10 |
| danpb | only if someone asks for it | 15:10 |
| danpb | so if you want to see it on stable say son the list | 15:10 |
| danpb | otherwise it'll go into Oct 1st release | 15:11 |
| danpb | (only 2 weeks away now) | 15:11 |
| sew1 | sounds good | 15:11 |
| s1rp | danpb: if /run/initctl patch looks good, anychance that'll make it into oct 1? | 15:12 |
| danpb | sure, plenty of time yet | 15:12 |
| s1rp | cools | 15:12 |
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| danpb | ok, well seems we've nothing much going on here, so lets call it a wrap | 15:16 |
| danpb | #endmeeting | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 16 15:17:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/libvirt/2014/libvirt.2014-09-16-15.03.html | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/libvirt/2014/libvirt.2014-09-16-15.03.txt | 15:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/libvirt/2014/libvirt.2014-09-16-15.03.log.html | 15:17 |
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| woodm1979 | Hello! | 16:01 |
| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 16 16:01:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 16:01 |
| jrist | o/ | 16:02 |
| tmazur | hello o/ | 16:02 |
| david-lyle | Hello everyone | 16:02 |
| asahlin | Hello | 16:02 |
| jgravel | hi | 16:02 |
| TravT | o/ | 16:02 |
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| doug-fish | hi | 16:02 |
| gary-smith | hi | 16:02 |
| woodm1979 | o/ | 16:02 |
| rhagarty | hello | 16:02 |
| rdopieralski | hi | 16:02 |
| tsufiev | hello | 16:02 |
| crobertsrh | hello/ | 16:02 |
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| david-lyle | #topic RC-1 status | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC-1 status (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:03 | |
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| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:03 |
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| david-lyle | All 7 FFE related blueprints have merged \o/ | 16:03 |
| pawels | cool | 16:03 |
| gugl | hi | 16:03 |
| TravT | \o/ | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | there is some minor cleanup related to a couple that is being targeted with bugs | 16:04 |
| pawels | thanks ! | 16:04 |
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| amotoki | hi | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | I saw this morning that amotoki is targeting the neutron L3 HA work with a bug | 16:05 |
| david-lyle | so we'll still get that in as well | 16:05 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: I just upload the review too. | 16:05 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: excellent | 16:05 |
| david-lyle | does it require a client change or is this all server side? I haven't looked at the patch yet | 16:06 |
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| david-lyle | The lone critical defect we have is still in progress, currently the Horizon tempest test is disabled in the gate | 16:07 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: it doesn't require new client release and the server side change in neutron has been merged. | 16:07 |
| david-lyle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1345955 | 16:07 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: great | 16:07 |
| david-lyle | I like it when it's easy | 16:07 |
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| david-lyle | I have a devstack patch up to move compression/compilation offline, once that merges, we'll reenable the Horizon tempest test | 16:08 |
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| david-lyle | All the highs have owners, spare 1 | 16:08 |
| david-lyle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1282089 | 16:09 |
| amotoki | I am not sure why the frequency of the failure became high recently (especially this week). is there any changes in our dependencies? | 16:09 |
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| david-lyle | amotoki: the bug was not properly characterized | 16:09 |
| david-lyle | better definition late last week, meant recheck number increased | 16:10 |
| amotoki | yes, I tried to identify, but could not so far. | 16:10 |
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| david-lyle | this week is puzzling that we would still be seeing it | 16:11 |
| TravT | david-lyle: the bugs you filed on the aggregates and flavors metadata also is there on images. Bug is filed, assigned, and ready for review. Just need you to add to rc-1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1370061 | 16:11 |
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| david-lyle | TravT: done | 16:12 |
| TravT | thx | 16:12 |
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| david-lyle | Later this week we'll need to decide what is truly critical for RC-1 | 16:12 |
| david-lyle | Then work toward RC-1 from that list | 16:13 |
| david-lyle | But I plan on at least a week before trying to finely target RC-1 | 16:13 |
| david-lyle | Once RC-1 is closed, master will open soon after for Kilo work | 16:14 |
| david-lyle | Any questions on RC-1? | 16:14 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: so how to we decide what goes in to RC-1? | 16:14 |
| doug-fish | I'm sure every thing I've touched is critical; I'm mostly asking for other people. :-) | 16:15 |
| amotoki | TravT: bug 1369678 and bug 1370061 are duplicated? | 16:15 |
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| TravT | amotoki: let me look | 16:15 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: for the next week, most fixes, beyond that just things you would not ship without | 16:15 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: ok sure, and if I require a fix in order to ship I just message you and we sort out if it goes on the list? | 16:16 |
| david-lyle | important broken functionality, large performance issues, etc | 16:16 |
| david-lyle | yes | 16:16 |
| doug-fish | super. Thanks! | 16:16 |
| david-lyle | if we find something after RC-1, we open RC-2 | 16:16 |
| david-lyle | eventually we run out of time, of course | 16:16 |
| TravT | amotoki: no they aren't duplicate. There is a similar issue with exception handling in both of them. just one affects flavors and the other affects imaes. | 16:17 |
| david-lyle | I don't currently see anything we couldn't release without | 16:17 |
| amotoki | TravT: got it. | 16:17 |
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| david-lyle | Agenda for today | 16:17 |
| asahlin | So if we have defects that are marked RC-1 and fixes are available.. They should go in | 16:17 |
| asahlin | correct | 16:18 |
| amotoki | As usual, I would like to propose a cleanup/import translations. | 16:18 |
| david-lyle | asahlin: yes | 16:18 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: how far out are we on translations? | 16:19 |
| amotoki | The situation changes from Icehouse release because translation import is now done automatically until RC1 is cut. | 16:19 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: we could have an RC-2 just for translation, if need be | 16:19 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: they don't have an exact date now. RC-2 would be great. | 16:20 |
| amotoki | some input from horizon is really helpful. do you have any planned date? | 16:20 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: I'd like to target the 25th for RC-1 | 16:21 |
| david-lyle | if we don't have anything critical on the 23rd, I'd be happy to close RC-1 then as well | 16:22 |
| david-lyle | Additionally, I need to release openstack_auth this week | 16:22 |
| amotoki | david-lyle: thanks. I think it is no problem. IIRC the target discussed in I18N meeting is around 25th. | 16:23 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: that should line up well then | 16:23 |
| david-lyle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 16:24 |
| david-lyle | #topic JS Best Practices | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "JS Best Practices (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:24 | |
| asahlin | I wanted to bring some attention to the JavaScript best practices documentation which is out for review, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117595/. | 16:24 |
| asahlin | I think that this documentation is beneficial and necessary especially as we have more and more client side coding. Hoping it can get some more review attention. | 16:24 |
| asahlin | And to thank those who have already given their feedback, its been valuable. | 16:25 |
| david-lyle | asahlin: now that the FFEs are in, more reviews will move back to bugs, docs and testing | 16:25 |
| asahlin | great, that is what I was hoping. | 16:26 |
| david-lyle | I agree this effort is valuable and lack of reviews is not an indication of lack of support, just release mechanics | 16:26 |
| asahlin | One part of the documentation that I haven't seen any review comments on is the JSHint options recommended for your development environment. It would be great to get some feedback agreeing or disagreeing with the proposed options. Once we have agreement on the options we want, the next question is if we want to integrate / enforce those options during the continuous builds? Or have that only as a development tool. | 16:26 |
| david-lyle | I think if we're going to set a standard, we'll want to use the gate to enforce it | 16:27 |
| tqtran | I think once everyone agrees, we should make it part of the continuous builds | 16:27 |
| tqtran | we already have jshint running, why not add a few more options? =) | 16:28 |
| asahlin | agreed. | 16:28 |
| david-lyle | we aren't the best at self-policing | 16:28 |
| david-lyle | as shown when our flake8 stopped running for a while | 16:28 |
| david-lyle | asahlin: anything else on this for now? | 16:29 |
| asahlin | nope that was it | 16:29 |
| david-lyle | thanks! | 16:29 |
| amotoki | /FYI/ more readable version of the document is generated automatically and avaialbe at the result of "gate-horizon-docs". | 16:29 |
| amotoki | perhaps most of you are aware of it :-) | 16:30 |
| david-lyle | #topic Summit Session Planning (david-lyle) | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit Session Planning (david-lyle) (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:30 | |
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| david-lyle | So as I mentioned in the last meeting, the topic proposal tool is not making an appearance this cycle and instead we'll be using an etherpad, much like we did last cycle | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-kilo-summit | 16:31 |
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| david-lyle | has been set up for those purposes with a few sample topics I included | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | we're still a month and a half out, so no hurry | 16:31 |
| david-lyle | but feel free to add your topics there | 16:32 |
| david-lyle | there will also be scheduled and unscheduled time, when we start determining the final topics, we'll need to determine how the topics best fit into that | 16:33 |
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| david-lyle | questions? | 16:33 |
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| david-lyle | #topic Discuss potential changes to the blueprint process (david-lyle) | 16:34 |
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| david-lyle | So the blueprint process for Horizon worked fairly well when the community was smaller | 16:34 |
| david-lyle | was the horizon community has grown \o/ the process is having a tough time scaling | 16:35 |
| david-lyle | I want to start the discussion on how to improve the process | 16:35 |
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| david-lyle | currently we have a lot of blueprints that have one or two sentences as a description and that's it | 16:36 |
| david-lyle | granted, for some items that is almost enough | 16:36 |
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| david-lyle | but I'd like to have a more formalized template in the blueprint as to what is covered by the blueprint | 16:36 |
| david-lyle | Things like UX design links, doc impacts, dependencies in other projects, etc | 16:37 |
| david-lyle | I'm not really in favor of the specs repo process mostly because I think it creates a review bottleneck, but we need to get more formalized in our process | 16:38 |
| david-lyle | with that greater formality, I'd like to actually start using the approval states as a proper indicator of where this blueprint stands | 16:39 |
| david-lyle | and only merge approved blueprints | 16:39 |
| david-lyle | I don't think the blueprints should bottleneck on the PTL, but the core can continue to approve | 16:39 |
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| david-lyle | of course, I'm open to suggestions | 16:40 |
| david-lyle | but I think the current wild-west of BPs in Horizon is not sustainable | 16:40 |
| amotoki | Huge +1. At least the design direction must be clear when it is approved. | 16:40 |
| rdopieralski | I would love to see the process well defined and documented | 16:41 |
| jpomero | is the idea to just come up with a template that all blueprints should use? | 16:41 |
| asahlin | I am newer to the community, and haven't been around / involved with a blueprint creation cycle... but I agree with everything your saying +1 | 16:41 |
| david-lyle | jpomero: yes, essentially | 16:41 |
| david-lyle | even if N/A is the content of the section | 16:41 |
| jpomero | yeah seems like a good idea | 16:41 |
| david-lyle | but things like cross-project dependency tracking puts a huge burden on reviewers | 16:42 |
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| david-lyle | I'll create a formal proposal and hopefully we can discuss it next week | 16:42 |
| gary-smith | this sounds like a practical approach, and preferable to the specs repo formality | 16:42 |
| david-lyle | I don't want the process to be so formalized as to block progress, so I'm hoping for balance | 16:43 |
| david-lyle | The last part of this discussion was around planning bps in cycles | 16:43 |
| TravT | a template would be great... agree that the specs repo process is kind of painful. | 16:43 |
| gugl | not only need a process doc, but also need a good example, so everyone can follow | 16:44 |
| david-lyle | gugl: I agree, I will provide that as well | 16:44 |
| amotoki | I think discussion on blueprint whiteboard works so far. | 16:44 |
| david-lyle | amotoki: yes, I like the discussions and want to keep that | 16:45 |
| jacalcat | There has been some work to create design patterns, which would be good to point to as part of the template. Also, some standards around the type of wording that appears in the UI. | 16:45 |
| david-lyle | I should probably check on the current status of storyboard as well | 16:46 |
| * krotscheck perks up | 16:46 | |
| rbertram | Do we need UX approval of blueprints? | 16:46 |
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| jacalcat | I think that would help. | 16:47 |
| david-lyle | rbertram: I think that will depend on the nature of the blueprint, but I would certainly be in favor of that, I just don't want to block on the limited UXers we have | 16:48 |
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| amotoki | I believe horizon reviewers have good UX perspective to some extent. | 16:48 |
| rbertram | david-lyle: agreed - and as you said before, N/A is often fine | 16:48 |
| asahlin | rbertram: I think that more involvement with UX would be good. | 16:48 |
| david-lyle | I'll see what the UX team is willing to sign up for, I think lblachard is out for a while | 16:49 |
| david-lyle | *lblanchard | 16:49 |
| david-lyle | so needs more investigation as to level of UX input | 16:49 |
| gugl | david-lyle, UX team is folks in #openstack-ux? | 16:49 |
| david-lyle | gugl: yes | 16:50 |
| gugl | k. tks | 16:50 |
| david-lyle | I'll ping them offline | 16:50 |
| jacalcat | David, please include me. | 16:50 |
| david-lyle | krotscheck: Think I just need to kick the tires again :) | 16:50 |
| david-lyle | jacalcat: absolutely | 16:50 |
| david-lyle | I'll use the public instance | 16:51 |
| david-lyle | we'll talk planning and scheduling later | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 16:52 |
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| david-lyle | bring it | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | :) | 16:52 |
| tqtran | lol no more wild west stand offs? | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | tqtran: not so fast | 16:53 |
| amotoki | we have many existing blueprint with unknown status... it is a good time to clean-up. | 16:53 |
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| david-lyle | amotoki: I agree | 16:53 |
| amotoki | I am not sure what process or criteria is good to clean up but new blueprint process will make it clear :-) | 16:55 |
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| david-lyle | I'm not sure if just marking the obsolete would help | 16:56 |
| david-lyle | then if people are interested, re-propose the blueprint with the appropriate template | 16:57 |
| david-lyle | I don't think there's a way to delete bps | 16:57 |
| david-lyle | that said, just because someone is not working on something doesn't mean it's not a good idea | 16:58 |
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| amotoki | yes. most bp proposals are good feature candidates, but blueprints require someone who work on them. It is a balance. | 16:59 |
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| david-lyle | Looks like time is up. Thanks everyone for all your hard work on RC-1 so far. Have a great week! | 17:00 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 16 17:00:39 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-16-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-16-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
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| amotoki | thanks all, bye! | 17:01 |
| gary-smith | bye | 17:01 |
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| arosen3 | hi | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | Anyone here for congress? | 17:01 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:01 |
| arosen3 | nope :P | 17:01 |
| kudva | Hi | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | Several of us are at the Silicon Valley OpenSTack summit. | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | So let's have a quick meeting to catch up. | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 16 17:02:28 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CongressTeamMeeting)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | Let's do some status updates. | 17:02 |
| arosen3 | I'll go first. We went a head and merged the python-congressclient patches so people can start using that. | 17:03 |
| arosen3 | I also am working on getting the CI working and have made good progess there. Hopefully next week we'll have some functional testing working through gerrit. | 17:03 |
| arosen3 | that's all from me. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs | I've tried out the congress-client. It's definitely MUCH better than curl. | 17:04 |
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| kudva | I submitted some code, tox runs fine for me locally, but I have a jenkins fail and it looks like it's a tox installation issue? Could you please look at it? | 17:04 |
| kudva | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121418/ | 17:04 |
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| arosen3 | http://logs.openstack.org/18/121418/1/check/gate-congress-pep8/5c665a7/console.html#_2014-09-14_19_27_36_213 | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | kudva: Hmmm.. looks like it couldn't install the dependencies. | 17:05 |
| kudva | I don't have control over that, correct? | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | arosen3: does this look like a problem with Jenkins? | 17:05 |
| kudva | I mean is there something I can do (setting etc) | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | kudva: I don't think that's something you can fix, esp since you didn't touch requirements.txt | 17:06 |
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| arosen3 | i just rechecked it for you. It looks like it could be an temperary infra issue. | 17:06 |
| kudva | arosen3: okay, let me abandon this one, and resubmit | 17:07 |
| arosen3 | kudva: if you submit a commit with "recheck" jenkins will rerun your patch. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | kudva: meaning that arosen3 added a comment to your patch, which causes Jenkins to recheck it. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | kudva: don't abandon. | 17:07 |
| kudva | arosen3: okay will do that. | 17:07 |
| arosen3 | kudva: no need to abandon or rebase. | 17:07 |
| kudva | arosen3: okay, got it. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | Today is hard, but I'll try to review that change tomorrow. | 17:08 |
| kudva | thinrichs: when you get back, I will need some input on datalog ordering checking requirements | 17:08 |
| thinrichs | kudva: understood—let's make sure to touch base tomorrow. | 17:09 |
| kudva | thinrichs: okay. I am currently working on the two bugs you assigned. | 17:09 |
| kudva | thinirchs: sounds good | 17:09 |
| arosen3 | kudva: you shouldn't need to touch requirements unless you add a new dependency. If you do we know have testing around requirements so jenkins will -1 and tell you something is wrong. | 17:09 |
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| arosen3 | jenkins is automatically managing our projects requirements files now | 17:10 |
| arosen3 | to keep them in sync. | 17:10 |
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| arosen3 | for exmpale, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120659/ | 17:10 |
| kudva | arosen3: okay, I don't think i changed it but I will make sure... | 17:10 |
| arosen3 | your patch hit a random failure that pip couldn't install a package from a given server. | 17:11 |
| kudva | arosen3: okay, hopefully it should go through next time... | 17:11 |
| kudva | arosen3: thanks for looking into this and feedback | 17:12 |
| arosen3 | np | 17:12 |
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| arosen3 | gotta run sorry. | 17:13 |
| thinrichs | Thanks arosen3! | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | I can do a quick status update. | 17:14 |
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| thinrichs | Last week I was working a bit on arosen's client to add a few more API endpoints. | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | Also did a bit of planning for the policy summit. | 17:15 |
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| thinrichs | That's all just about set up, so we're hoping to see you all there. | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | Anyone else here want to give a status update? | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | I saw LousiF earlier. | 17:15 |
| sarob | i can give a quick update after martin is off the stage ;) | 17:16 |
| thinrichs | I think we're about done with the meeting. Martin is on stage for 20ish minutes. | 17:16 |
| thinrichs | I don't think we want to wait until the end. | 17:17 |
| thinrichs | So does anyone else have anything to discuss this week? | 17:17 |
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| thinrichs | banix: we're having a short meeting b/c of the OpenSTack Silicon Valley summit. | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | We've just gone through status updates. We were about to end the meeting. | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | Do you have anything to report? | 17:21 |
| banix | thinrichs: ok | 17:21 |
| banix | no | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | I just remembered: we were all supposed to pick a datasource to write a driver for. | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | Anyone do that? | 17:21 |
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| madhumohan | thinrichs: I am about to push an initial ceilometer driver for review. I should be done any moment. | 17:22 |
| thinrichs | madhumohan: great! | 17:22 |
| thinrichs | We'll try to get you feedback as soon as we can. | 17:22 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone else? Last call. | 17:24 |
| madhumohan | I dont have the unit tests yet...I remember there was a discussion on using mox/mock/fake clients... I assume I can blindly follow neutron driver tests now.. please confirm | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | madhumohan: neutron is a good template to follow. | 17:25 |
| madhumohan | thinrichs: sure... thanks. | 17:25 |
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| thinrichs | Let's call it a day. Use #congress or the ML for questions. | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 17:26 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 16 19:00:36 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | Brian Curtin, Rackspace | 19:01 |
| stevelle | Steve Lewis, Rackspace | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | Dean Troyer, Nebula | 19:01 |
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| terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:02 |
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| briancurtin | i think there's two main things to talk about: dtroyer mentioned last week progress on the lower-level and feeding into OSC. dtroyer anything to report there? | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | (i forgot to put an agenda together, but it's dean's lower level stuff, and then the higher level from terry and associated changes + jamie's etherpad) | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer | yup. I pasted a couple of links into the -sdks channel yesterday as an advance peek… | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | The actual commit: https://github.com/dtroyer/python-openstackclient/commit/dbdbc4a2f6e07b3ecb9e2413aaeb0b3b25731cd3 | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | A short write-up: http://hackstack.org/x/blog/2014/09/15/openstack-low-level-api/ | 19:04 |
| dtroyer | Basically, I've stripped the API into a two-layers object hierarchy, the root has common methods and a child class for each API/version | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | the only class data carried around is a session, the endpoint for that API and the service type in the service catalog | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | the commit also has the requited changes for OSC to use it directly | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | what I am most interested in is if this is something the SDK project wants to include | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | it feels a little like the way sqlalchemy has several layers | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | I like it | 19:08 |
| briancurtin | dtroyer: i think this is going the right direction per the post, flipping through code now | 19:10 |
| dtroyer | the biggest drawback I see ATM is the sheer size of api.compute.py once all calls are implemented… | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | ok, that's what I had to show, we can talk some more once folk have had some time to digest it... | 19:15 |
| stevelle | that does seem significant | 19:15 |
| terrylhowe | the effort to write all that code seems huge. I’d be tempted to write some script to generate it all | 19:15 |
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| dtroyer | it is a lot of work…and I plan to keep at it for a while… | 19:18 |
| briancurtin | while we digest more of that, maybe we chat here and there throughout the week about that and move on for right now? or does any have something for dtroyer right now? | 19:21 |
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| briancurtin | #topic higher level | 19:23 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: where you went with the jenkins script is really close to what i had been up to, but you're much quicker at building the plumbing to make it happen :) | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | i also prefer your direction to jamie's, which would be creating a mega namespace of all types of API calls | 19:24 |
| terrylhowe | I left out some plumbing in the middle, but it is close. The missing piece is the version discovery | 19:25 |
| terrylhowe | it is definitely a WIP, but good for discussion | 19:25 |
| terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121660/ | 19:26 |
| terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121660/1/jenkins.py | 19:26 |
| terrylhowe | ^ what the higher level looks like in use | 19:26 |
| briancurtin | one minor discussion point...where did "potentate" come from? i had never even heard that word before, but after looking it up i kind of get it | 19:27 |
| terrylhowe | what I wasn’t sure about is were people expecting the higher level calls to return a resource class or some wrapper class | 19:27 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: that's one thing i went back and forth on. returning the resource is probably fine for now, can shift into some wrapper if needed later on if we think it's necessary | 19:27 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, too rare a word, but there is is. We should probably come up with something better. | 19:28 |
| briancurtin | can bikeshed on that later on, works for now though, and it actually works | 19:28 |
| stevelle | really nice to see use cases laid out | 19:29 |
| terrylhowe | the only other quest I have is should the methods take dicts or **dicts | 19:29 |
| terrylhowe | seems like people would rather **dicts | 19:29 |
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| briancurtin | i think i would rather ** | 19:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | speaking from personal experience **dicts are generally nicer | 19:30 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: since this is generally the direction i was headed anyway and you have more plumbing done, where can i jump in? you mentioned versioning - is that something you want right now or anything else higher priority? | 19:32 |
| terrylhowe | well, somehow there needs to be some mediation between UserPreferences, service catalog versions, SDK valid_versions and maybe what is in the versions API for the service | 19:33 |
| terrylhowe | I am distracted with another project, so it may be a while until I get to that | 19:34 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i'll take a look | 19:34 |
| terrylhowe | cool | 19:34 |
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| terrylhowe | is dtroyer done looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119579/7 | 19:38 |
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| terrylhowe | I think I’ve satisfied your concerns over changing the api to Transport | 19:39 |
| terrylhowe | the other SME available woudl be dhellmann on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119628/ | 19:39 |
| terrylhowe | I think I addressed Doug’s concerns on that one | 19:40 |
| dtroyer | terrylhowe: yeah, transport is good, I haven't been over the rest of it yet | 19:41 |
| terrylhowe | unfortunately, jamie is gone for 4 weeks and probably didn’t have a chance to look at the auth plugin changes | 19:42 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: about those inconsistencies? | 19:42 |
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| briancurtin | oh, well and of course your other changes | 19:43 |
| terrylhowe | which inconsistencies briancurtin ? | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i was thinking of something else, his identity changes where you had found stuff like email property was missing | 19:44 |
| terrylhowe | we could probably patch on those to fix those minor issues | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | terrylhowe: I'll put that on my review list | 19:46 |
| terrylhowe | thanks dhellmann | 19:48 |
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| briancurtin | anything else to cover in teh next 10 min? | 19:49 |
| stevelle | I'm looking for recommendations for things I can poke at | 19:50 |
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| stevelle | I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/unifiedsdk/+bug/1365724 but wasn't sure if we should pull stuff to openstack/common or roll something short or maybe put it off for now | 19:51 |
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| terrylhowe | there is a utils.py but I’m not sure why that isn’t in common | 19:53 |
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| briancurtin | i think it could go either way. i dont actually see that bit of code needing to be commonly used, but it wouldnt hurt for it to live there in implementation and then be applied within the prop class | 19:54 |
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| terrylhowe | on my list of todos here I have image/metadata and identy/v2/roles special cases | 19:56 |
| terrylhowe | there is also that bug about trying to parse the version off auth_url, but that might get stacked behind all the reviews out there already | 19:57 |
| terrylhowe | because whatever you find would select an identity plugin | 19:57 |
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| stevelle | saw that snare lying it wait so haven't picked that up | 19:57 |
| terrylhowe | would be thrilled if you reviewed anything out there that might interest you stevelle | 19:58 |
| terrylhowe | I should have time to patch that stuff here and there | 19:59 |
| stevelle | terrylhowe: will do on the reviews | 19:59 |
| briancurtin | i'm catching up on reviews myself, was out of town for a bit late last week | 19:59 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 16 20:01:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-09-16-19.00.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-09-16-19.00.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-09-16-19.00.log.html | 20:01 |
| briancurtin | thanks all, have to jump on a call | 20:01 |
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