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| carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: pc_m: hi | 15:01 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: hi. Only able to be on for 30 min :( | 15:01 |
| ChuckC | o/ | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: my time is limited today too. | 15:01 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: hi | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | seizadi: it has been a while | 15:02 |
| Rajeev | carl_baldwin: Hi | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 16 15:02:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| seizadi | Hi | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: hi | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | I don’t think I have any announcements. Anyone else? | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | safchain: hi. Anything new? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #undo | 15:05 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x3188550> | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Actually, I thought of an announcement. It just hit me that Juno final should be today. | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bgp-dynamic-routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:05 | |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: hi | 15:05 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we’re almost there with the blueprint. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | The question remaining is whether the dr agent is associated with a network or a router. I’m still thinking about it. | 15:08 |
| devvesa | me too. I understand you point, it can become annoying to add all the routers | 15:09 |
| matrohon | me too :) an alternative could be to associate it to a l3 agent? | 15:09 |
| devvesa | but... it can be the use case where you don't want to advertise all? | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | I can see advantages and disadvantages to both strategies. I’m wondering if we need to hear some more opinions. | 15:09 |
| devvesa | matrohon: the alternative is associate the router to the dr_agent | 15:09 |
| devvesa | so: a network with all his routers or a single router one by one? | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: I’m not sure an l3 agent fits. they can be associated with many routers. There can be many l3 agents associated with an external network. In some cases, there can be more than one external network associated to an l3 agent. | 15:11 |
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| ryu25 | i see attaching to a router as more intuitive to the users, but providing a way to do 'bulk attach' by specifying external network sounds useful. Perhaps allow both? | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | ryu25: I was just going to suggest maybe both too. We could start with routers initially maybe. | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | That complicates the db model a little bit… It is something to think about. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | Would we model that with two types of associations (two tables) or one table that can handle different types of association? | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: ^ | 15:13 |
| devvesa | yes, why not? | 15:14 |
| devvesa | another think to talk about is if we forget the discovery or not | 15:14 |
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| devvesa | I removed any discover reference in the spec, but you seemed concerned about it | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: hi | 15:14 |
| ryu25 | right... the db model also feels more natural if the router and dynamic routing are directly attached. If the only reason for going with external network is to provide a way to associate it with multiple routers, then it sounds like it should be a thought of as an API level enhancement | 15:14 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Are you thinking of putting that off to another blueprint? How important is the discover to your use case? | 15:15 |
| devvesa | it is not important, we just need to advertise a full range | 15:15 |
| devvesa | let's avoid the discovery but trying to do things in a way that won't be difficult to add it in a future | 15:16 |
| ryu25 | agreed that advertisement is more useful than discovery | 15:16 |
| devvesa | what do you think? | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Then I think leaving it out of this blueprint is fine. I’d like to leave the door open to addressing it later. | 15:16 |
| devvesa | ok | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | It does make sense to address advertisement first and discovery later if there is demand for it. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | So, have we decided to implement an associated with a router now and follow-on later with an association to a network? I’m happy with that. | 15:18 |
| devvesa | I'm happy too | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m think I’m leaning toward adding a property to the association to indicate if it is a router or a network. What do you think? | 15:19 |
| ryu25 | sounds good to me. In the future, tenants will want to add BGP to their own routers to advertise routes over VPN too | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | ryu25: Yes, I think so. I still see an admin involved in that. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: okay. Anything else? I hope we can get this blueprint in soon. | 15:21 |
| devvesa | Ok, I'll take that into account in the next spec review | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: great. Thanks for your work and patience. | 15:21 |
| devvesa | me too! thanks carl! | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | thanks ryu25 and matrohon for your input too. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L3 Agent Refactoring | 15:22 |
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| ryu25 | carl_baldwin: anytime! | 15:22 |
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| devvesa | please matrohon, review the spec, we want to do something useful for VPN guys | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | devvesa: matrohon: +1 | 15:22 |
| matrohon | devvesa : I'll send a potential design for IPVPN attachment | 15:23 |
| devvesa | looking forward to see it | 15:23 |
| matrohon | you can have a first look here : https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1NN4tDgnZlBRr8ZUf5-6zzUcnDOUkWSnSiPm8LuuAkoQ/edit | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | I have to apologize that I have not posted the spec for the refactoring of the L3 agent. I wrote it as promised but I need a sign off from our legal team to post it. I’m still trying to get that. | 15:23 |
| yamahata | hi, I have uploaded WIP patch for l3 agent. | 15:24 |
| yamahata | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128846/ | 15:24 |
| yamahata | That's quite incompleted, but enough to show the idea/direction | 15:25 |
| Swami | Will this be part of the L3 agent refactoring effort or will this be a separate patch | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | yamahata: do you have a blueprint? This is a pretty big change and looks like it has a big chance of conflicting with other efforts. | 15:25 |
| yamahata | I expect it will be a part of l3 agent refactoring. | 15:25 |
| matrohon | yamahata : this leads to modula l3 agent? | 15:26 |
| Swami | yamahata: then you may need to add in your idea to the same blueprint that carl was mentioning | 15:26 |
| yamahata | carl_baldwin: no blueprint. | 15:26 |
| yamahata | carl_baldwin: so I'd like to discuss before going further. | 15:27 |
| matrohon | is modular l3 agent the overall direction? (sorry for the newby question:) | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | yamahata: I see value in this. Could you hold off on it for just a bit while we try to bring our efforts together? | 15:27 |
| yamahata | carl_baldwin: Sure. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: We would like to get closer to a modular agent. But that is a bit longer term. | 15:27 |
| matrohon | carl_baldwin : thanks | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | yamahata: I like the enthusiasm. I don’t want to squash it. I will have a look at what you have proposed and try to work it in to the overall effort. | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: We won’t get there in one step. However, the L3 should get more modular as the work progresses. | 15:29 |
| yamahata | carl_baldwin: so far I heard just refactor of l3 agent. Can you please elaborate what kind of refactoring? | 15:29 |
| yamahata | My motivation is routervm. | 15:29 |
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| matrohon | carl_baldwin : fine : will try to help since I think i'll need it for BGPVPN | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | yamahata: I was hoping to have the blueprint up to answer these questions. Sigh. Let me try to give you the gist of it. | 15:30 |
| yamahata | So I'd like to split out device specific logic and the logic of polling/syncing | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | I’d like to start by adding an encapsulation for a router to remove all of the router stuff from l3_agent.py. This will leave the agent class to handle RPC updates and queuing them to workers. | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | This sounds similar to your goal. | 15:31 |
| yamahata | carl_baldwin: yes, sound similar. | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | Another early step will be to encapsulate a namespace and create a manager that will handle the clean up of stale ones. | 15:32 |
| Swami | I like the idea. +1 | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | Then, I’d like to encapsulate plugging ports, especially the external gateway port since there is so much logic around that for DVR vs legacy routers. All of the floating ip namespace handling would go under this encapsulation. | 15:33 |
| mrsmith | great ideas carl_baldwin | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m thinking of maybe a driver model to handle the differences between DVR and legacy connection to the external network. | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | I think with those initial steps, the L3 agent will be significantly less tangled up in itself than it is now. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | It should enable further work to clean it up even more. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll try to get the sign-off to post the blueprint and will add you all as reviewers. | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:37 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: mrsmith: Rajeev: anything since yesterday? | 15:37 |
| Swami | We got another bug filed regarding the floating IP status update | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I did not get a chance yesterday to look at the locking issues much. I have that on my plan for today. | 15:37 |
| Swami | We are looking into it right now. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Ah yes, the new tempest test was added for that. | 15:38 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1381617 | 15:38 |
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| Swami | It seems to be like a timing issue, but we are looking into it to confirm. | 15:38 |
| Swami | We had some headway on the lockwait issue. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: headway since yesterday? | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | What have you found? | 15:39 |
| Swami | On the lockwait it seems that a port is deleted by "gateway_clear". | 15:39 |
| Swami | The router_interface_delete is trying to delete the same port. | 15:39 |
| Swami | When it goes to the delete_port, it calls "db.get_locked_port_and_binding". | 15:40 |
| Swami | In a normal scenario, this function returns the port that was deleted and then it logs a message and quits. | 15:40 |
| Swami | But in this case this function does not return. | 15:41 |
| Swami | the query to find out the ports that are locked fails. | 15:41 |
| Rajeev | On another note: Saw the re-occurrence of the race condition in l_3 processing floating ips. | 15:42 |
| Rajeev | filed defect 1381238 | 15:43 |
| Rajeev | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1381238 | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: So, let me see if I have this right... | 15:43 |
| Swami | This is query that fails: port = (session.query(models_v2.Port). enable_eagerloads(False). filter_by(id=port_id). with_lockmode('update'). one()) | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | delete_port tries to get_locked_port_and_binding and it cannot because gateway_clear has already obtained the lock to delete the port? | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: Thanks for the link. | 15:44 |
| Swami | Yes in this case the gateway_clear has already deleted the port, it is not clear after deleting the port if it had released the lock or not. | 15:44 |
| Swami | The log message shows that the port has already been deleted. | 15:45 |
| Swami | I have updated the launchpad bug with the neutron-server log and I have mentioned the port-id that was causing this problem. Take a look at it. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: okay. I couldn’t yesterday but will probably have some time today. | 15:46 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: thank you | 15:46 |
| * carl_baldwin goes to look at bug 1381238 | 15:47 | |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: How is this bug going? | 15:48 |
| Rajeev | carl_baldwin: have a review up with possible fix | 15:49 |
| Rajeev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128131/ | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: Could you link the review to the bug? Somehow it did not get linked. | 15:50 |
| Rajeev | sure, didn't realize that. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ It did not get linked because the first PS didn’t mention the bug in the commit msg. I’ve had that happen. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: mrsmith: Rajeev: Anything else? | 15:51 |
| Rajeev | I see, how do I link it now ? | 15:51 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: I don't think I have anything more to add. We are still focussed on bugs and backlog items. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Thanks. | 15:51 |
| Rajeev | On bug #1381617 | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev, just paste a link in a comment. | 15:52 |
| Rajeev | from the logs it appears the test is checking the status of the floating ips too quick. | 15:53 |
| Rajeev | It would be a timing issue with the test as Swami mentioned earlier. | 15:53 |
| mrsmith | dvr takes a little longer to setup FIPs since we have extra ns, port, etc | 15:53 |
| Rajeev | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1381617 | 15:54 |
| Rajeev | mrsmith: yes | 15:54 |
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| Rajeev | no more updates from me except , take a look at review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128131/ | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks all. We’re about out of time. | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | Keep up the good work. | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 18:00 |
| nbouthors | hi | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
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| s3wong | hello | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: s3wong ivar-lazzaro | 18:01 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi! | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rudrarugge: good to see you! :-) | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi again | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay lets get started | 18:01 |
| rudrarugge | SumitNaiksatam: :) | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 16 18:01:32 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:01 |
| s3wong | glebo is gone... | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | any big announcements or info that anyone would like to share upfront? | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: he will back soon :-) | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | one piece of information i wanted to share was the GBP design summit session | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/98dc4255384e340682137c8a7ee7e60d#.VD_6XIt4r4w | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is a separate session in the “other projects” track (in the design summit) | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am of course talking in the context of the upcoming Paris summit (should have mentioned that before) ;-) | 18:03 |
| s3wong | cool | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yeah :-) | 18:03 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: do we know if we are getting Neutron design summit slots? | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: not sure | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: we will leave that to community to decide the neutron priority | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay we can discuss the details of the session in a separate agenda topic | 18:04 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other info/announcements? | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Specs in review | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/group-based-policy-specs+branch:master,n,z | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some of the ones mentioned above already have implementation patches posted against them | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are little behind on the reviews | 18:06 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I should be able to make some progress on these today. | 18:06 |
| rms_13 | It took time for jenkins to be happy... Glad he is smiling now :) | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:07 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Sorry, I actually meant the code reviews, but I need to review the specs as well. | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: yes, but we are currently discussing the specs, implementation patches are next :-) | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah, this is the specs review | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: good to see your specs, thanks for posting promptly! | 18:08 |
| hemanthravi | need review of the gbp chaining spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125876/ | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: sorry i am behind on that | 18:08 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam, when you get some time | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i see that only kevinbenton has reviewed | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the ones that were assigned to him | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: rkukura do you have issues with kevinbenton’s comments? | 18:09 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: thanks | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: you want to update the commite message title to reflect the name of the spec | 18:10 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: nope, I'm going to push the new version of the patch in seconds :) | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: sweet | 18:10 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: i will be updating them | 18:10 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think I clarified kevinbenton’s concern about L2P, and am updaing the extension driver spec. | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: great, thanks | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok great | 18:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sorry i was not following the discussion thread | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: welcome back! | 18:11 |
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| Guest96350 | *sorry he's late, irc client connectivity issues, dkw* | 18:11 |
| Guest96350 | #nick glebo | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | can i also plug a request to review the spec update that i put: #link https://review.openstack.org/127913 | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am happy to spend a few minutes here if someone wants to dig deeper on the specs that are in review currently | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on -> into | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if not we will move to the implementation patches | 18:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Implementation patches in review | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | wait | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #undo | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Current DB approach: SSDC | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | want to bring this to everyone’s notice since this patch was already approved | 18:15 |
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| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: so no problem with the release folks? | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | per discussion in the last meeting (and on friday in the review meeting), ivar-lazzaro posted a new patch for the single schema different series approach (SSDS) | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i am not sure | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: rkukura: s3wong’s question ^^^ | 18:16 |
| ivar-lazzaro | s3wong: we don't know yet, but we needed this to be in place to fix dependency issues | 18:16 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: +1 | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yes, installation was broken without a fix | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so in the interest of expediency, i approved this patch | 18:17 |
| ivar-lazzaro | s3wong: we can always go back to the DSDC approach if the problem arises | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i believe at least rkukura approves of this | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | please let us know if there are concerns | 18:17 |
| s3wong | ivar-lazzaro: sure | 18:17 |
| ivar-lazzaro | But in general I would suggest to start investigating the issue with the packagers before it's too late :) | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have tested that devstack install now works with the fix in place | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: can you quickly summarize for the benefit of everyone what the current approach is? | 18:18 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: sorry to put you on the spot | 18:18 |
| ivar-lazzaro | The current approach is to use a different "version table" in the same database/schema Neutron is using | 18:19 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | so we are basically still tied to the Neutron's database, but we run a completely different migration chain | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: good summary | 18:19 |
| ivar-lazzaro | which means that Neutron can upgrade just fine as long as table names are unique | 18:20 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (same goes for gbp ofc) | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: and thanks so much for working on this so expeditiously, it was a blocking issue | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay any more questions on the current approach? | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so for anyone posting a new migration, nothing changes | 18:20 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Nope | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just change the HEAD in the gbp repo, and point to the right down migration | 18:21 |
| ivar-lazzaro | this approach is much cleaner than DSDC | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: did I summarize it correctly? | 18:21 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but less safe packaging wise | 18:21 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: that's perfect :) | 18:21 |
| rkukura | Why less safe? | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | certainly simpler! | 18:22 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: because we don't know if using the same database is acceptable overall | 18:22 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: once we know that for sure I'll be happier :-) | 18:22 |
| rkukura | I think that is more of an architectural issue than a packaging issue | 18:22 |
| rkukura | But we can ask around | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sure | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:22 |
| rkukura | For Juno, this is a service plugin within neutron-server, after all | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: thanks again! | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agreed! | 18:23 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: np! :-) | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Implementation patches in review | 18:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so we had a long review meeting (i believe it was Oct 14th) | 18:23 |
| Guest96350 | nick/ glebo_ | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this was an IRC meeting, you can find the logs here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/7/7f/Gbp-patch-reviews-10142014.pdf | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we got out of the meeting with some AI and review owners | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this has been captured here: #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAcYODD5fA_t2yleb95pTlIxD-btnUllZTN-uhNrsh4/edit#gid=0 | 18:24 |
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| Guest96350 | lo mestery | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we are still a bit behind on the reviews here | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we merged GPM-RMD-1, did we? | 18:26 |
| Guest96350 | all: having serious irc issues this morning, so Guest96350 = glebo | 18:26 |
| Guest96350 | *hope y'all can live w/ it* | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: np | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok we did | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on GP-API-2, rms_13 you have a -1 | 18:27 |
| Guest96350 | *will repost the mapping once in a while to help any new-comers* | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe i have addressed your comments | 18:27 |
| rkukura | I just updated the gpm-rmd-1 review with links to the LP bugs I filed. | 18:27 |
| rms_13 | Ok. Will take a look | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: i addressed them yesterday evening :-P | 18:28 |
| s3wong | rkukura: gpm-rmd-1 is already merged, right? | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yes | 18:28 |
| hemanthravi | ivar-lazzaro, does hierachical contracts patch need a rebase | 18:28 |
| rkukura | s3wong: yes, just wanted to record that the bugs were filed | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i think rkukura added as record | 18:28 |
| s3wong | rkukura: sure | 18:28 |
| hemanthravi | ivar-lazzaro, service-chain patches dependent on this are failing too | 18:28 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hemanthravi: yep | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i believe it does, i did not rebase it yesterday when i was rebasing others | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay i did not realize that | 18:29 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hemanthravi: there are merge conflicts, will address right after the meeting | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i can do it later in the day if ivar-lazzaro doesnt get to it | 18:29 |
| hemanthravi | ivar-lazzaro, thanks | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for GP-DB-2 | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: and ivar-lazzaro you +2’ed | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if no one has objections, can someone +A this? | 18:30 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: there's still a dict/set issue (just like the contract patch) but didn't want to block it | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | sorry to get into the weeds here with the specific patches | 18:30 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I can approve it | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: ah okay, i believe you added that comment a couple of mins back :-) | 18:31 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: yes :) | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: but my bad, i should have checked for it when i was fixing the other stuff | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: you can file a bug | 18:31 |
| Guest96350 | reminder: Guest96350 = glebo *suffering from irc client disfunction syndrome this morning* | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: ;-) | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: we at least know you are not masquerading! ;-) | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | \ME starts doubting that Guest96350 really is glebo :-) | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i can assure you he is | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | GP-PLG-3 | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: j/k :) | 18:32 |
| Guest96350 | SumitNaiksatam: well, reverse masquerading, aka parading | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | who is the second core on this? | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorri, i meant GP-PLG-2 | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that would be you ;-) | 18:33 |
| Guest96350 | ivar-lazzaro: who is glebo anyway, really? | 18:33 |
| rkukura | yep | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully you can take a quick look at it | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Guest96350: maybe we all are! | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | GP-API-3 | 18:34 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, I hope to make some progress on the code reviews today | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: you are guilty again ;-P | 18:34 |
| rms_13 | what did I do now? | 18:34 |
| rms_13 | :) | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: just pulling your leg | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: you put the -1 saying that jenkins was not happy, except that jenkins had not voted | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: but it has now and its happy :-) | 18:36 |
| Guest96350 | ivar-lazzaro: *hears familiar tune, then lyrics, "your own... personal... glebo" | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe you will be looking at GP-API-3 as well | 18:36 |
| rms_13 | May be the session was not upto date... Ya its passing so I will do +2. | 18:37 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for GP-DB-3 i believe i have addressed the comments, ivar-lazzaro and rms_13 can you take a look? | 18:37 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:37 |
| rms_13 | Rebase after Rebase and that after +2 ... :) | 18:37 |
| rms_13 | Sure I will | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: great, thanks! | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | GP-PLG-3 | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think this is good to go, we can wait for the preceeding patches to merge and then +A this | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | btw, lets merge the patches in order (when we come to it) ;-) | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am not sure Jenkins will allow a merge otherwise | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that brings us to GPM-RMD-SG | 18:39 |
| rms_13 | Ya that is the reason I did not +A after Hemanth did another +2 on one of them. | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so myself and rkukura are on the hook, we will get to it once the backlog clears | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: sure | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we also have the hierarchical contracts patch | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats Hemanth and me | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think hemanth has reviewed to some extent | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i havent | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | will get to that | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so once we are done with these foundation patches, we have a bunch of service chain patches to get to | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps doesnt make sense to spend time on discussing those right now | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but please keep those patches in mind as well | 18:41 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: there's another one | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: lost in the bunch | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: ah sorry, did i miss something | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: which rkukura will certainly appreciate :) | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128148/ | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | since we are now depending from Neutron only for UTs, we can forget about pypi and directly pull from their repo | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: oh my bad, yeah that is critical bug fic | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the official one | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *fix | 18:42 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: So it does work? | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: yeah now it does, because we don't need to pull the repo anymore when running the installation script | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: it's only needed for UTs which have always worked | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: need to point to stable/juno though | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: oh sorry, i mixed up | 18:44 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: was just going to mention stable-juno | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i thought you were referring to the delete object chain bug | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: that's another one, I didn't have the chance to test it yet | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126740 | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yes, we have lots of things in flight, if you are still wondering! :-) | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, so moving on | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP Design Summit session | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | as i mentioned earlier - #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/98dc4255384e340682137c8a7ee7e60d#.VD_6XIt4r4w | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need to plan for this | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not sure that we need to discuss this today | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have time until the summit | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: you were mentioning something about this earlier? | 18:46 |
| Guest96350 | SumitNaiksatam: 2 wks away now, not too much time, really | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fyi, the GBP conference track session is #link https://openstacksummitnovember2014paris.sched.org/popular#.VD5YAYvF_3B | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: true | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: we just got notification that we have been allocated this slot | 18:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: so in the process of planning, and the rest of the team just got to know about it as well | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: but point well taken | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: in general, this will be a “design” discussion | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: i will get the etherpad started for it | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: so that we can start adding the topics that we want to discuss | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and over time we can add structure | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | does that sound good to everyone? :-) | 18:49 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my earlier comments not specifically targeted at Guest96350 :-) | 18:49 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sorry, was out for a moment | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: :-) | 18:49 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: we should plan for the conference presentation, as it happens on the first day of the summit :-) | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: no worries | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ah on that | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i was planning to bring that up in the open discussion | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i did update the slides | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: at least with those from the policy summit | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i will send them out | 18:50 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: and of course the "other project" design summit also :-) | 18:50 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: OK | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i believe others are working on the slides as well | 18:50 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: so will send it as soon as i get that input | 18:51 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: others? I am not :-) | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: mandeep and mikeC | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok thats a good way to segue to the open discussion | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:51 |
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| Guest96350 | SumitNaiksatam: so those will be sent to ML? | 18:51 |
| Guest96350 | SumitNaiksatam: slides, I meant | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: perhaps not the ML right away, they will posted on the openstack site after the presentation | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: we expect to iterate until the presentation day, so might not be worthwhile sending the draft versions to the ML in advance | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: can certainly share within the team for feedback and review | 18:53 |
| Guest96350 | SumitNaiksatam: so, sent unicast to "interested parties for reivew"? | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Guest96350: yes, absolutely | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok we are in open discussion | 18:53 |
| Guest96350 | SumitNaiksatam: cross-talk; ack | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: i noticed you and cathy_ were following up on the Congress integration? | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: thanks for following up on that thread | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: any update you would like to give to the rest of the team | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or perhaps on the blueprints you posted? | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps LouisF is away | 18:55 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: you have any updates on that front? | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: you mentioned the operators track as well for socializing GBP? | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think we lost a few people since we are getting close to lunch time here on the west coast :-) | 18:57 |
| nbouthors | We are dividing the propose BluePrint in 3 parts. | 18:57 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: ahah | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: nice to know, and good to see you here :-) | 18:57 |
| nbouthors | hi | 18:58 |
| nbouthors | I work with Louis on the BP | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: yes of course, sorry i did not realize you were in the meeting today | 18:59 |
| nbouthors | Also, it is nice to see that OVS is starting to implement L7 classification. | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the blueprint which LouisF posted is a joint work between nbouthors LouisF and cathy_ | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: right? | 18:59 |
| nbouthors | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: yes, noticed your pointer earlier today regarding the OVS work | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: will follow up | 19:00 |
| nbouthors | THought it could be of interest | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: i think the team will be happy to get some pointers to docs or references if you have any | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: we can take it offline | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay we are over time | 19:01 |
| nbouthors | SumitNaiksatam: Wil do | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks everyone | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nbouthors: thanks | 19:01 |
| nbouthors | Bye | 19:01 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sorry, again stepping out | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | until next week (we might have another review meeting if we dont make enough progress) | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye all | 19:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 16 19:01:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-10-16-18.01.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-10-16-18.01.txt | 19:01 |
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