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| SergeyLukjanov | sahara folks, ping | 13:58 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, morning | 13:59 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: hey | 13:59 |
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| crobertsrh | hello/ | 13:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 14:00:32 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov) | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov) (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:02 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov, please | 14:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any good things happening? | 14:02 |
| crobertsrh | Still a few patches waiting for review. | 14:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | our changes are getting some attention | 14:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | from Horizon team | 14:02 |
| crobertsrh | I'm still waiting for meaningful input from UX for UI rework ("wizards"). Will reping them again today. | 14:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | so we'll probably get Job Executions table working properly soon | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, do you have some proposal for them? | 14:03 |
| alazarev | two of my horizon patched were merged | 14:03 |
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| aignatov | o/ | 14:03 |
| alazarev | two other are still on review | 14:04 |
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| crobertsrh | I was hoping they would have proposals for me. In the background, I'm starting a few thing though. I will mock them up soon regardless of their input or lack thereof. | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, got it | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:05 | |
| crobertsrh | Specs for template editing and default templates are up for comments. Still some work needed there, but I wanted to get comments before vacation time. | 14:06 |
| crobertsrh | Skeleton blueprint for UI wizards is up as well | 14:07 |
| elmiko | i'm progressing further into creating the content for the data processing chapter of the security guide. i'm using https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes as a place to collect ideas, so if anyone could take a look and post comments as the content grows that would be great. aside from that, reviews, and a few minor bug fixes. | 14:07 |
| alazarev | I was busy doing teampest tests for sahara, here is result: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142632/ | 14:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, that's really cool | 14:07 |
| alazarev | please review | 14:07 |
| aignatov | well, I’ve uploaded my latest version of new pig example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141782/ | 14:07 |
| alazarev | *tempest | 14:07 |
| aignatov | will add new job execution to integratin tests | 14:08 |
| alazarev | *teampest would be cool :) | 14:08 |
| weiting | About Pre-built CDH Plugin Image, cloudera is asking for a place to put their EULA and let the user accept the license. | 14:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, so, we'll have a chapter in openstack re sahara security? | 14:08 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: yes | 14:08 |
| weiting | Is there any suggestion for this? | 14:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, heh, there is no way right now to do it | 14:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, thanks for the update | 14:09 |
| weiting | HDP image don't need to do this? | 14:10 |
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| weiting | I mean is there any other similar experience for this? | 14:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, hwx was ok with publishing their images | 14:11 |
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| elmiko | weiting: hdp images don't do any sort of eula agreement | 14:11 |
| weiting | Ok, got it. So maybe the CDH image cannot publish at this moment. | 14:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | we should think about the mechanism to show license for plugins | 14:12 |
| alazarev | weiting, at which stage should user accept agreement? | 14:12 |
| * mattf waves | 14:12 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, morning :) | 14:12 |
| weiting | They are asking to show the EULA when the user use it at first time. | 14:13 |
| * mattf has to update his calendar | 14:13 | |
| mattf | eula for what? | 14:13 |
| * mattf finds chat log | 14:13 | |
| elmiko | weiting: would that be the first time a user creates a cluster from those images? | 14:13 |
| weiting | End User License Agreement | 14:13 |
| aignatov | mattf: for cdh deployment | 14:13 |
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| tosky | (hi, the new time!) | 14:14 |
| alazarev | weiting, for cluster or for each instance? | 14:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, yup, it's alt time each second week | 14:14 |
| weiting | Yes, but I think it should be difficult to put a license when creating a cluster | 14:14 |
| alazarev | if we add new tab with agreement to UI... will this work? | 14:14 |
| mattf | weiting, who's requesting the eula? | 14:15 |
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| mattf | legal, prod, eng? | 14:15 |
| weiting | Just need one time to show and let the user accept it. | 14:15 |
| mattf | seems very wrong, but assuming it's necessary | 14:16 |
| crobertsrh | Right, just a one-time thing. I think cluster create time is good. | 14:16 |
| weiting | Cloudera ask to put the eula | 14:16 |
| mattf | can they accept a eula before downloading / creating an image ? | 14:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, it'll be the best option | 14:16 |
| mattf | a eula is very anti-automation | 14:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yeah... | 14:16 |
| mattf | and sahara is all about automation | 14:16 |
| mattf | strikes me as a fundamental conflict | 14:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but we still have dib | 14:17 |
| weiting | Ok, I can ask them about to put the eula before downloading the image. | 14:17 |
| crobertsrh | What about launches from the CLI? | 14:17 |
| mattf | i'm curious who's asking for this because they might not have enough context | 14:17 |
| aignatov | alazarev’s approach would also work | 14:17 |
| mattf | weiting, do they have a eula before access their yum repositories? | 14:17 |
| mattf | alazarev, aignatov, it's weird tho. who should be accepting the eula? if an org buys openstack & cloudera, does each user accept or does IT? | 14:18 |
| weiting | I don't think they have, but I'm not sure. | 14:18 |
| mattf | is cloudera going to be producing the images? | 14:19 |
| weiting | No, it's based on sahara-image-elements | 14:20 |
| mattf | imho the oracle jdk eula accept shouldn't be in the elements | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, looks like we need to iterate on it offline | 14:21 |
| mattf | i'm wary of adding another | 14:21 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, wise | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, there is a switch to openjdk patch proposed | 14:21 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, yeah, i +'d it, it's currently -workflow | 14:22 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | do we have any other topics to chat about? | 14:22 |
| crobertsrh | For template editing, is it acceptable (or possible the *right*) thing to disallow editing of templates that are in use by a cluster. This would be similar to how we don't allow in-use templates to be edited. It would avoid quite a bit of work with keeping old versions of templates around. | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, sreshetniak is on vacation now and will finish it next week I think | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 14:22 |
| mattf | i'd like to discuss plugins w/ 3rd party deps | 14:22 |
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| elmiko | i'd like to discuss security | 14:23 |
| mattf | elmiko, you go first | 14:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, I think so | 14:24 |
| alazarev | quick question, is any particular reason why we recommend using floating IPs for devstack with nova network? (this regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142616/) | 14:24 |
| crobertsrh | awesome. I will rework the spec to reflect that, if nobody disagrees. | 14:24 |
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| weiting | I will ask Cloudera if the eula can be put during downloading. | 14:24 |
| weiting | And we can discuss it offline. | 14:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, but I think that it's ok to edit template that is in use only by other template | 14:25 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, I mean node group tmpl and cluster tmpl | 14:25 |
| crobertsrh | Yes, I agree with that. | 14:25 |
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| elmiko | ok, i'm curious about our default position with regards to sahara security. namely do we have any positions surround stack operation? | 14:25 |
| elmiko | in specific things like, separation of users into projects, cluster sharing, data management, these types of topics. | 14:26 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh, I don't understand why we disallow in-use template to be edited | 14:26 |
| elmiko | i'm asking because as i assemble the chapter for the sec guide, i'm left wondering if we have done any work to create a baseline expectation for our users with respect to how they should configure a sahara enabled stack? | 14:27 |
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| crobertsrh | alazarev: Editing an in-use template requires us to save the old template and update the reference in the cluster...so that we can still accurately show the templates that formed that cluster. | 14:27 |
| alazarev | we allow clusters and job to be deleted while there are job executions... what wrong with editing template while cluster is running | 14:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, because when we have cluster online from template - the template is in fact a spec for cluster and that means users expect that if they use the same template the same cluster wil be provisioned | 14:28 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh, we copy all data to cluster, template is for reference only | 14:28 |
| crobertsrh | The links in the UI go to the template itself | 14:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, job exec is just an event about starting job and job results are most probably aren't stored in the cluster | 14:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, templates are for creating the same cluster | 14:29 |
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| crobertsrh | I think it's essentially the same reason we don't let users delete templates that are in-use by a cluster. | 14:29 |
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| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, I could imagine scenario when users always create cluster using template X, and admins tune settings for it in the same time | 14:31 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, yup | 14:31 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh, yeap, and I don't understand that either | 14:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, the question of dissallow in-use templates deletion and editing was discussed when we've been adding the templates | 14:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, and we even decided to not implement editing | 14:32 |
| crobertsrh | alazarev: So you're thinking that when a template is edited, we would also push those changes (processes, configs, etc) to the cluster right away? | 14:33 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, may be it is time to discuss more :) | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, honestly it's a very difficult question about security guidelines | 14:33 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: yea... ;) | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I'm still very sure that we shouldn't allow to edit and delete in-use templates, crobertsrh is for it too as I see | 14:33 |
| crobertsrh | I think it's consistent with everything else we do (to not allow it) and it avoids many possible complications. | 14:34 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh, no, I mean that reference in cluster is for information only, I don't see much trouble if template was edited from time of cluster creation | 14:34 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh, agree that it is consistent, I mean approach in general | 14:35 |
| crobertsrh | you say consistent, but not great | 14:35 |
| alazarev | it makes things complicated, sometimes | 14:36 |
| crobertsrh | Ok. I will update the spec for now and we can continue the conversation there. I don't want to eat-up the whole meeting with other topics waiting. | 14:37 |
| alazarev | but I agree, this is a big topic for design sessions, not for IRC chat | 14:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, what's about plugins with 3rd party deps? | 14:38 |
| mattf | i'm curious what the team's view is about supporting plugins that don't operate w/o a 3rd party (non openstack) dependency | 14:39 |
| mattf | for instance, the cdh plugin and cm_api | 14:40 |
| mattf | should sahara only support plugins that are single sourced (openstack.org)? | 14:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, IMO we just should document it, enable by default, but add a warning while starting sahara about missed dependency for plugin | 14:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (enable by default was about cdh) | 14:41 |
| elmiko | imo, i'm ok with plugins that have 3rd party deps, but i think the 3rd parties should help to ensure that the deps are available downstream | 14:41 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: enable by default creates issues for the downstream repackage though | 14:42 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, i've been thinking about it as: user has to do a non-openstack install step to get the dep, it's reasonable to also have a config step | 14:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, if we'll add a warn and lack of the dependency will not break sahara than it's ok IMO | 14:42 |
| mattf | i'm curious if folks know what other projects are doing w/ this situation | 14:42 |
| weiting | Actually, Cloudera is asking to put cm_api to CDH Plugin source code. | 14:43 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: ok, agreed with that | 14:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, oh, interesting | 14:43 |
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| mattf | interesting indeed | 14:43 |
| weiting | But I think it's really hard for maintenance. | 14:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, what's the argument for doing it? | 14:43 |
| mattf | i think we should have an opinion as a project, as well as discuss the cloudera case | 14:43 |
| kchen | who will take the charge of maintaining that? I cannot image | 14:44 |
| kchen | maintaining cm_api in cdh plugin | 14:44 |
| weiting | It's open source and they accept to put it in Sahara. | 14:44 |
| elmiko | kchen: good question | 14:44 |
| mattf | openstack has a long history of copy-libs, but also has a well defined process for them | 14:44 |
| tosky | would it be a copy, while keeping the development of the library outside? | 14:45 |
| mattf | weiting, each new upstream cm_api release could be copied into the plugin? | 14:45 |
| tosky | I'm not sure this is the right approach (distributions will use the upstream one as much as possible) | 14:45 |
| weiting | Yes. That's what they are asking for. | 14:46 |
| mattf | tosky, alternatives seem to be not enabling the cdh plugin or trying to get cm_api into openstack | 14:46 |
| weiting | Yes, I agree with tosky. | 14:46 |
| mattf | those aren't good results imho | 14:46 |
| weiting | I think Cloudera don't have the resource to maintain cm_api, so tthey are asking for this. | 14:48 |
| mattf | weiting, is cm_api something cloudera uses elsewhere or has support for their customers to use? | 14:48 |
| weiting | Yes, it's open to support for their customer. | 14:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | probably we should re-spin this question next meeting when sreshetnyak will be available too | 14:49 |
| weiting | But they are focusing on java based cm_api. | 14:49 |
| mattf | it's almost another swift-fs situation | 14:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | as I remember sreshetnyak was talking about having very simple cm api implemented in the plugin | 14:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | like it was done for intel plugin | 14:51 |
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| mattf | the next meeting i'll be at is 8 jan | 14:52 |
| huichunlu | Good option, we currently use just few of cm_api call | 14:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichunlu, yeah, in fact we don't need it, only some basic funcs | 14:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, ack | 14:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | in RU NY holidays are Jan 1-11 | 14:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw I'll be on meeting 8 jan, but not sure about other RU folks | 14:55 |
| mattf | ok, let's table for the time being | 14:55 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | a few mins left | 14:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else to discuss? | 14:57 |
| elmiko | i just want to bring this up again, i'd be happy to have any opinions, criticism, questions, etc... | 14:57 |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes | 14:57 |
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| alazarev | "the next meeting i'll be at is 8 jan" - the same for me, and probably for the most of others | 14:58 |
| elmiko | i'm going to try and extrapolate our default sec. position from the available guides and my own common sense, so input is good =) | 14:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, last min promotions :) | 14:58 |
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| kchen | what is the clock of next meeting? | 14:58 |
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| elmiko | kchen: 1600UTC | 14:58 |
| kchen | ok | 14:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay, thanks folks | 14:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | have a good day/night/smth else | 14:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #ndmeeting | 14:59 |
| aignatov | elmiko: I’ll take a look on your spec | 14:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 14:59:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| kchen | bye | 14:59 |
| elmiko | aignatov: thanks! | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-12-18-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-12-18-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-12-18-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| mattf | ciao folks | 14:59 |
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| tellesnobrega | bye | 14:59 |
| tosky | elmiko: 1600UTC? | 14:59 |
| elmiko | tosky: yea, i thought that was alternating meeting schedule? (did i mess it up?) | 15:00 |
| kchen | 1800UTC? | 15:00 |
| tosky | if it's alternative, like today, then it's 1400UTC (it's 1500UTC now) | 15:00 |
| tosky | otherwise it's 1800UTC | 15:00 |
| elmiko | yes, my bad | 15:00 |
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| elmiko | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 15:01 |
| tosky | just to be sure, another change and I would miss it :D | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | hi, L3 meeting time. | 15:01 |
| elmiko | definitive source, 1800UTC | 15:01 |
| tosky | ups, time to leave | 15:01 |
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| elmiko | sorry | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | no worries, thanks! | 15:01 |
| kchen | bye | 15:01 |
| weiting | Ok, thanks. | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 15:02:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | hi all | 15:02 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:02 |
| johnbelamaric | hi | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like I need to update the agenda a bit. | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like kilo-1 is today. | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 15:03 |
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| mrsmith | howdy | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Specs are winding down for kilo. | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Are there any specs still lingering in the review queue that have not been finalized? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L3 Agent Restructuring | 15:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Are you around? | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: ? | 15:06 |
| haleyb | bueller? :) | 15:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | Well, Paul’s patch merged yesterday. It had a few patches behind it that we should be able to merge soon. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: hi | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | I added the next episode to the process_router last nigh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142644/ | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’ll have a look. Could you edit the topic to “bp/restructure-l3-agent”? | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | it follows up on the comments that carl_baldwin and haleyb made to my previous patch about about defer_off and defer_on | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: yeah, I'll sure do that | 15:09 |
| pc_m | sorry I'm late | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: hi | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | after that patchset I'll start moving methods to the router calss | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: I see that your patch merged. | 15:10 |
| pc_m | yes! | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I started taking a crack at that yesterday. It may take more than one person to tag team on that. | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: coll, let me know how can I help | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Will you be driving the adv svcs portion of that now? | 15:10 |
| mrsmith | I made good progress with dvr.py | 15:11 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: sorry, late... portions of...? | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I will post a WIP today with a start. I thought I’d start with the floating ip methods. The choice was a bit arbitrary but seemed as good as any. | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | moving dvr metods, etc there | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: :-) | 15:11 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: i will review your change today before i leave for holidays | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: thanks! | 15:11 |
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| mrsmith | carl_baldwin: I can adjust once I see what your patch looks like | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Great. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: I will post what I have soon. It will not pass tests but I’ll be working on that. | 15:13 |
| mrsmith | I also created a agents/common/constants.py file to hold our constants | 15:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Is yours up as a WIP? | 15:13 |
| mrsmith | not yet, probably today | 15:13 |
| mrsmith | UTs are passing, etc - just doing some cleanup | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: okay | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Sounds like we’ve got a lot of work going on. Just be sure to use “bp/restructure-l3-agent” as the topic and I’ll track it and drive it as much as I can. | 15:15 |
| mrsmith | I am using mixins like the ha.py does | 15:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: I was just thinking yesterday about how to change ha.py from using a mixing to being a sub-class. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: hi | 15:16 |
| amuller | hiya | 15:17 |
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| amuller | Sorry meeting ran late | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: thanks for making it. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Do you have time to address https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137672/? | 15:17 |
| mrsmith | carl_baldwin: sure... I was just going with small changes first | 15:17 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Not today :( We had a lot of L3 HA blocker bugs pop up lately | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: okay, sounds good. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Okay, I’ll take a look at it today. | 15:18 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Thank you | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: You’re welcome. I think we’ll be tag teaming much of this work to try to keep it going. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there anything else on refactoring that we need to discuss? | 15:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Hi | 15:21 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | I think I’ll probably move this topic later in the agenda but I do not want to drop it. | 15:21 |
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| devvesa | sure, no problem. I was about to ask you the same. Maybe even drop it for now if you want | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | For now, I think our best bet is to continue the L3 agent refactoring so that it will be easier to eventually make the L3 changes needed to connect to L3 routed network. | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: That is fine. I’ll plan to add it back to the agenda around kilo-2. | 15:23 |
| devvesa | Ok. I'll be in the available in the meetings anyway | 15:23 |
| devvesa | So add it again anytime | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Thanks for all of your work. It is good to have you here. | 15:23 |
| devvesa | Thanks carl | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ipam | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: hi | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: around? | 15:24 |
| johnbelamaric | hi | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | Looks like there is one more spec to merge. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138803/ | 15:26 |
| johnbelamaric | right | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | We kind of need this to continue with the other specs. | 15:26 |
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| johnbelamaric | yes, have you heard anything from salv-orlando ? | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Looks like he’s been granted an extension until tomorrow to address the comments on the spec. Probably because it is needed by our other specs that have been accepted. | 15:28 |
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| johnbelamaric | ok | 15:28 |
| johnbelamaric | so - the plan now is to start work on refactor based on the WIP interface you have submitted? | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Yes, I think so. It would be nice to tie up any loose ends on the interface. Would you have any time to see what is still needed? | 15:30 |
| johnbelamaric | once this spec has merged I think we can start on that - would be best to understand some of the plans here prior to refactoring | 15:30 |
| johnbelamaric | i will take a look today | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Thanks. | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | There is another related BP still in review. | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93054/ | 15:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | I don’t think it will fit in to kilo with the rest of the IPAM work. But, it will be a very nice enhancement to IPv6 capabilities. | 15:32 |
| johnbelamaric | i have not looked at that one, I will take a peek | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Thanks. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else on IPAM? | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we need to get the work on the reference implementation started soon. I’ll talk to salv-orlando about that. | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will sync with salv-orlando on reference implementation. | 15:36 |
| johnbelamaric | nothing more from me | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | Had the dvr meeting yesterday. Anything new since then? | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: My impression yesterday is that there are a lot of reviews in play for dvr. | 15:37 |
| mrsmith | I started the dvr.py refactoring effort as we discussed above | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | More than I can wrap my head around. | 15:38 |
| mrsmith | yes - there are a few patches in review | 15:38 |
| mrsmith | manual snat move, agent restart, ipv6, l3-ha | 15:38 |
| mrsmith | multiple ext nets | 15:38 |
| mrsmith | we are actively working on them all :) | 15:39 |
| mrsmith | functional tests also | 15:39 |
| mrsmith | also trying to debug and isolate failures on the experimental tempest job | 15:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Speaking of which, it looks like the failures are spiking again today. | 15:40 |
| mrsmith | ahh... spikes are different... usually a clear breakage | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, it looks like we have another breakage. :( | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | Yesterday the failure rate was tracking much closer to that of check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full | 15:41 |
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| mrsmith | thats the goal | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | What is it about Thursdays and this test job? | 15:42 |
| mrsmith | I'll spend some cycles looking at this new breakage | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Thanks. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything more on dvr? | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: You mentioned L3 HA bugs? Is there anything you want to discuss or mention here? | 15:44 |
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| amuller | We're doing some internal testing of L3 HA | 15:44 |
| amuller | and found a few issues. There's also been some bugs reported by the community in the last couple of weeks | 15:44 |
| amuller | I've been managing the l3-ha bugs list | 15:44 |
| amuller | Carl I'll ping you when I feel a fix is ready for any of these bugs | 15:45 |
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| amuller | currently some fixes are missing, some are in review and not yet ready | 15:45 |
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| amuller | There's one which I would appreciate some thoughts on: Making L3 HA and l2pop work, is important both for L3 HA and to eventually integrate L3 HA and DVR. Mike Kolesnik has started a mailing list thread about this. | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Do you have a link for that one handy | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | ? | 15:46 |
| amuller | It's called [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L2Pop][HA Routers] Request for comments for a possible solution | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | Ah, ML thread. I’m with you now. | 15:47 |
| amuller | That's it for me | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Thanks. | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/053240.html | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks everyone! | 15:52 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Thank you | 15:52 |
| pc_m | bye! | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 15:52:30 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-12-18-15.02.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-12-18-15.02.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-12-18-15.02.log.html | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: no meetings next 2 weeks? | 15:52 |
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| yamamoto | bye | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Ah, good question. Not next week as it will land right on Christmas and I’ll be with my family. | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | I will communicate on the ML soon. | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: :-)\ | 15:53 |
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| etoews | hi | 16:00 |
| etoews | #startmeeting api wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 16:00:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 16:00 |
| isviridov_away | o/ | 16:00 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:00 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 16:00 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:00 |
| etoews | seasons greetings :) | 16:01 |
| etoews | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I season my greetings lightly but that's personal taste | 16:01 |
| etoews | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:01 |
| etoews | #topic api definition formats | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | swagger go-go | 16:02 |
| etoews | elmiko: was it you that brought this up at the end of the last meeting? | 16:02 |
| elmiko | yea | 16:02 |
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| etoews | swagger a go-go | 16:02 |
| elmiko | mainly in the guise of creating a swagger generator for sahara | 16:02 |
| etoews | guises are good | 16:03 |
| etoews | can you share that link again? | 16:03 |
| elmiko | the larger effort i was getting at was trying to generate something for the api-ref website | 16:03 |
| etoews | that is a larger effort | 16:03 |
| etoews | but worthwhile | 16:03 |
| elmiko | #link https://github.com/elmiko/sahara-doc | 16:03 |
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| elmiko | it's pretty basic so far, but generates the minimum required doc for swagger2.0 | 16:03 |
| etoews | do you have the generated doc somewhere? | 16:04 |
| elmiko | 1sec, i can make one | 16:04 |
| etoews | sure then gist or paste or whatever | 16:04 |
| etoews | so let's discuss the more general issue | 16:04 |
| elmiko | http://paste.openstack.org/show/152783/ | 16:05 |
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| etoews | i'm totally in favour of having api definition formats a thing that the api wg advocates for. that is to say, i think it's in scope for us. thoughts? | 16:05 |
| dtroyer | ++ | 16:05 |
| elmiko | total agreement from me | 16:05 |
| stevelle | yes please | 16:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: agreed | 16:06 |
| ryansb | ++ | 16:06 |
| etoews | alright. i need to update the scope section of the wiki page anyway. | 16:06 |
| etoews | #action etoews update the scope section of the wiki page and include api definition format | 16:07 |
| etoews | at the moment i'm totally undecided on which one we should recommend or even if we should recommend one. | 16:07 |
| elmiko | if we are going to have them all on api-ref we need to at least provide a set of formats that are acceptable | 16:08 |
| etoews | is it better to just say we recommend an api def format, here are some examples. | 16:08 |
| elmiko | wadl is ok, if you like xml. but i'm finding swagger pretty easy to work with. | 16:08 |
| etoews | so here's another thing | 16:08 |
| elmiko | also it has some nice overlap with jsonschema stuff | 16:09 |
| isviridov | Is swagger integrated with sphinx somehow? | 16:09 |
| isviridov | Or any other tool> | 16:09 |
| elmiko | isviridov: that's a good question | 16:09 |
| etoews | one of the reasons i think wadl wasn't as useful as it could have been was because it was used as a documentation format. | 16:09 |
| etoews | we don't need documentation. we need definition. | 16:09 |
| etoews | we need the projects to own these definition files. | 16:10 |
| etoews | the defs should be the contract between client and server | 16:10 |
| isviridov | but it would be great to generate some documentation from definition in already adopted format. I mean sphinx | 16:10 |
| elmiko | isviridov: +1 | 16:10 |
| etoews | so rather than having api-ref be the place where these defs live | 16:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | I worked on a ruby project that used json schema to enforce a contract on a live server between client and server code | 16:11 |
| etoews | the defs live in the individual projects | 16:11 |
| etoews | and api-ref makes use of them | 16:11 |
| elmiko | etoews: would the idea be that api-ref would pull from the projects? | 16:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | I have a case-study up that we can look to as a reference for architecture if we're interested in something like that | 16:12 |
| etoews | elmiko: something like that | 16:12 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: post a link! | 16:12 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: yes. that's the direction we need to go. | 16:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://github.com/bendyworks/caravan | 16:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | I had thought of doing a case-study app with flask for simplicity but never got around to it | 16:12 |
| etoews | otherwise it's just another doc format that lags behind what the def actually is | 16:12 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I let my former employer publish it a few weeks ago for reasons like this :P | 16:12 |
| stevelle | isviridov: do you have much familiarity with swagger? | 16:12 |
| isviridov | stevelle not yet | 16:13 |
| elmiko | #link https://github.com/swagger-api | 16:13 |
| elmiko | fyi | 16:13 |
| etoews | i talked to the barbican folks about adopting a model like this. api def first dev. | 16:13 |
| etoews | they were open to the idea | 16:13 |
| isviridov | elmiko thx | 16:13 |
| stevelle | isviridov: swagger has tools to publish good human-readable documentation | 16:13 |
| etoews | but didn't have dev time to commit to it | 16:13 |
| isviridov | stevelle I see | 16:14 |
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| etoews | if we could help projects bootstrap their api def efforts, that might be one way to make it stick. | 16:14 |
| etoews | we would also want to demonstrate the benefits the project gained from adopting an api def | 16:15 |
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| sigmavirus24 | one thing i should mention is that this ruby project also used the API definition files to test/build clients and would probably be awesome to have something similar for openstack APIs | 16:15 |
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| etoews | sigmavirus24: you're reading my mind | 16:16 |
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| etoews | does anybody have the time to create a swagger def for barbican? | 16:16 |
| etoews | i wouldn't have time for it until next year but am willing to do it | 16:17 |
| elmiko | etoews: i've been looking into barb, i could take a pass at it | 16:17 |
| etoews | elmiko: have you seen the barb api "docs" | 16:17 |
| elmiko | etoews: yes | 16:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: "docs" | 16:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | lol | 16:18 |
| elmiko | etoews: i might go through their pecan impl to pull out the swagger spec though | 16:18 |
| etoews | some wiki page somewhere. | 16:18 |
| etoews | _goes off to find link_ | 16:18 |
| elmiko | i believe it's still under the cloudkeep stuff | 16:18 |
| etoews | #link https://github.com/cloudkeep/barbican/wiki/Application-Programming-Interface | 16:18 |
| etoews | the "docs" aren't sooooo bad :) | 16:19 |
| etoews | there are worse | 16:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | oh etoews the other thing is that this format allowed for microversioning | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | their definitely workable, but non-ideal | 16:19 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: "this format" == ?? | 16:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | *the ruby project I referenced earlier | 16:19 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: which is the api def format file in that project? | 16:21 |
| * sigmavirus24 goes to get a link | 16:21 | |
| elmiko | etoews: if i generate something for barb, should i just toss it on github? | 16:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | https://github.com/bendyworks/caravan/blob/master/lib/endpoint_definitions/users/user.yml etoews | 16:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | given how sinatra/rack work, the params in the URL are also documented in teh format so it's not just request/response body | 16:22 |
| etoews | elmiko: yes. at that point we can take it to the ml and see what barbican thinks. | 16:22 |
| elmiko | etoews: cool | 16:22 |
| etoews | #action elmiko to generate swagger doc for barbican and commit to github somewhere | 16:23 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: i that it that's a format defined by the framework? | 16:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: interpol is the library there | 16:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | we don't have to follow it to the T | 16:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | but interpol is just using jsonschema under the covers | 16:24 |
| etoews | "Interpol is an open source toolkit for policing your HTTP JSON interface maintained by Moz. It uses YAML files with definitions of the expected request and the promised response. These are called endpoint definitions. Caravan uses Interpol to enforce a contract with the consumer of the JSON interface." | 16:24 |
| etoews | #link https://github.com/bendyworks/caravan#interpol-endpoint-validation | 16:24 |
| etoews | interesting. | 16:24 |
| etoews | i think we'd want to go with a more broadly known/accepted format moving forward though | 16:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | yeah | 16:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | but the behaviour is what I care about personally | 16:25 |
| etoews | right | 16:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | it's just a concrete example | 16:25 |
| etoews | i particularly like "policing your HTTP JSON interface" | 16:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | It's a strategy used by moz.com and it works really reallly well for them | 16:25 |
| etoews | such things require much policing | 16:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm not sure how much of their architecture I can talk about though =P | 16:26 |
| etoews | understood. thanks for the concrete example though. | 16:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | you're quite welcome | 16:26 |
| etoews | what actually might be really helpful is if you could elaborate on the real benefits moz saw from adopting an api def. | 16:27 |
| etoews | we should discuss this on the ml | 16:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'll write up a document to that effect | 16:27 |
| etoews | more viz | 16:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | Action item forme? | 16:27 |
| elmiko | i think another question about these generated formats is how much do we want to talk about generating the base reference, and then hand tailoring with custom info(e.g. descriptions)? | 16:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | s/forme/for me/ | 16:27 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: as in starting the discussion on the ml or just documenting benefits. | 16:28 |
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| etoews | hmmmm...the benefits could be a reply to the discussion | 16:28 |
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| etoews | elmiko: that's a good point. i'm not sure. | 16:29 |
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| elmiko | my understanding is that the wadl present on api-ref is a mix of auto-generate and handhack | 16:29 |
| etoews | if these formats are maintained by the projects themselves, it might be too much of a burden for them. | 16:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: roger that | 16:29 |
| etoews | at least initially. | 16:30 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: okay. i'll kick off a discussion and if you could reply with the benefits that would be really helpful. | 16:30 |
| elmiko | etoews: would be awesome to see some sort of oslo package that could help with the generation | 16:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: will do | 16:30 |
| etoews | #action etoews start discussion about api def formats on ml | 16:30 |
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| etoews | #action sigmavirus24 reply to discussion with benefits moz saw from using an api def format | 16:31 |
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| etoews | elmiko: i hadn't considered that. that could work. | 16:31 |
| elmiko | i'm just thinking about how we could create something that would help the projects maintain their refs | 16:32 |
| etoews | elmiko: are you thinking generate the api def formats from the code using an oslo package? | 16:32 |
| elmiko | etoews: not completely, but something to help. | 16:32 |
| stevelle | many frameworks have decorators or the like to help with generating swagger docs. | 16:32 |
| elmiko | we have enough different wsgi impls that we probably can't have a single package to generate | 16:32 |
| stevelle | pecan doesn't, though | 16:33 |
| elmiko | stevelle: yea... =( | 16:33 |
| elmiko | nice thing about swagger though, is that json is easy to generate from python | 16:33 |
| etoews | this is all good fodder for a discussion on the ml | 16:33 |
| elmiko | etoews: agreed | 16:34 |
| etoews | we should move on | 16:34 |
| etoews | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:34 |
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| etoews | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2014/api_wg.2014-12-11-00.00.html | 16:34 |
| etoews | hmmmm...i don't think miguelgrinberg or ycombinator are around | 16:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: might show up late | 16:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | but he may also just not show up | 16:36 |
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| etoews | gotcha. i do see he started a metadata guideline. | 16:37 |
| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141229/ | 16:37 |
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| etoews | so something i think we need to start doing more of is this. | 16:37 |
| etoews | #1 under #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group#Deliverables | 16:38 |
| etoews | analyze current design | 16:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | yep | 16:39 |
| etoews | i don't want the wg to act like we're creating guidelines in a vacuum. | 16:39 |
| stevelle | there was another review I looked at yesterday, on addressing collections, that also did that. | 16:39 |
| etoews | yep. | 16:39 |
| elmiko | etoews: +1 | 16:39 |
| etoews | okay. i'm going to make a point about that on the ml. | 16:40 |
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| etoews | i have a feeling like it might uncover some gremlins | 16:40 |
| etoews | are we striving for a good enough design that's consistent or are we striving for an ideal like hateoas? | 16:41 |
| etoews | *ducks* | 16:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: why not both? | 16:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 16:42 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:42 |
| annegent_ | pragmatic | 16:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | pragmatic with a hint of idealism is what I've been thinking of personally | 16:42 |
| etoews | anyway, i just suspect that might fall out of such a discussion. | 16:42 |
| etoews | i might be over thinking it though. | 16:42 |
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| elmiko | sigmavirus24: +1 | 16:43 |
| etoews | #action etoews start discussion on ml about doing more analysis of current design and not creating guidelines in a vacuum | 16:43 |
| annegent_ | a light scent of idealism should be detected :) | 16:43 |
| annegent_ | +1 for more analysis of current state | 16:43 |
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| annegent_ | put me in, coach! | 16:44 |
| etoews | back on prev action items. | 16:44 |
| etoews | i pinged jaypipes about merging some of the guidelines. he merged the infra ones and commented on others. | 16:45 |
| etoews | not much time left. | 16:45 |
| etoews | #topic APIImpact | 16:46 |
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| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:46 |
| etoews | blerg. anything we can discuss in 5 min? | 16:46 |
| sigmavirus24 | https://review.openstack.org/139775 should be simple enough | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | also it's mine =P | 16:47 |
| etoews | that's fair. :) | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | glance supports downloading images in chunks (only when using the filesystem as a store) but doesn't return 206 when it responds properly. the problem is that every other storage device doesn't respect it | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | so it needs to change so that it returns the proper status code but can also simultaneously support the operation properly so there are some changes in the pipeline for that | 16:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | It has APIImpact in the sense we're changing status codes midstream and I'm not convinced it's a good idea even if it's the right thing =P | 16:49 |
| annegent_ | I think our guidance generally was the guidelines can be applied to current API definitions but are meant for future designs. | 16:49 |
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| etoews | from the patches i can't tell what the status code was originally | 16:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | 200 | 16:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | Which is correct when downloading the entire image at once | 16:50 |
| etoews | is that even remotely practical? | 16:51 |
| etoews | (download the entire image at once) | 16:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 16:51 |
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| ryansb | on 10G sure | 16:51 |
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| elmiko | lol | 16:52 |
| etoews | ha | 16:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | this is probably off-topic at this moment | 16:52 |
| etoews | i don't think so | 16:52 |
| etoews | a 206 seems perfectly reasonable | 16:52 |
| ryansb | I mean, an 8gb image would take around 8 seconds on a 10gigabit link | 16:52 |
| etoews | or necessary really | 16:52 |
| etoews | ryansb: assuming the network is reliable. ;) | 16:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: yeah. | 16:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | I meant the practicality of downloading the entire image is probably out of scope for discussion | 16:53 |
| etoews | ah yes. my tangent. | 16:53 |
| etoews | oops | 16:54 |
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| sigmavirus24 | but yeah, this makes me wonder if we should be defining all status codes (like usage of 206) in the WG too | 16:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | we've had enough yaks shaved over 201/204 on creation and such | 16:54 |
| etoews | i think so | 16:54 |
| etoews | if there had been a guideline for something like this in the first place the proper status code might have even gotten used! | 16:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | heh | 16:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | there is a guideline... it's RFC 7233 | 16:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 16:55 |
| dtroyer | even in the case of the 201/204 discussion, we should document that even if no clear reccommendation is made to attempt to at least short-circuit the next time that discussion arises | 16:55 |
| etoews | 5 min left. i think we'll have to skip the guidelines topic. | 16:56 |
| elmiko | dtroyer: +1 | 16:56 |
| etoews | dtroyer: +1 | 16:56 |
| etoews | we can also think of the guidelines as providing mental heuristics for others. | 16:56 |
| elmiko | it's tough work, especially getting a consensus, but very valuable to at least have a guide for response codes | 16:56 |
| etoews | #topic open topics | 16:56 |
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| etoews | i'm assuming we're canceling next week's meeting. ;) | 16:57 |
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| elmiko | makes sense | 16:57 |
| stevelle | +1 that | 16:57 |
| etoews | should probably cancel the week after too. | 16:57 |
| annegent_ | yeah | 16:57 |
| etoews | so cancel dec. 24 and jan. 1. | 16:58 |
| etoews | anything else anybody wants to fire off in 2 min or less? | 16:58 |
| elmiko | happy holidays? | 16:58 |
| etoews | happy holidays | 16:59 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | enjoy the two week break? | 16:59 |
| etoews | (note the lack of question mark) | 16:59 |
| elmiko | that's why i plus oned ;) | 16:59 |
| etoews | :D | 16:59 |
| etoews | awesome. thanks everyone! | 16:59 |
| ryansb | cheers! | 16:59 |
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| sigmavirus24 | thanks etoews | 17:00 |
| etoews | cheers! | 17:00 |
| elmiko | have fun all! | 17:00 |
| etoews | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 17:00:17 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2014/api_wg.2014-12-18-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2014/api_wg.2014-12-18-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2014/api_wg.2014-12-18-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| banix | hi | 18:00 |
| KrishnaK | hi | 18:00 |
| mageshgv | hi | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: banix KrishnaK mageshgv: hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 18:01:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: hi | 18:02 |
| s3wong | hello | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy#Dec_18th.2C_2014 | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are closing in on the release ;-) | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we are on track to wrap up the features and bugs by tomorrow | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets go over the details | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | there is one open critical bug: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1403577 | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i believe this is addressed | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ? | 18:04 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, Right now this is done in the same patch as hierarchial redirects, May be we want to separate them ? | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i believe those are related (as far as your implementation is concerned) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: so i think its fine | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: thanks for working on this | 18:06 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: yes, thats right. ok | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have a bunch of high and medium priority bugs | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have a few high on my plate | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you have some, right? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some might be targeted for the next release though | 18:07 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Only one that I think is worth fixing now. | 18:07 |
| rkukura | Or may be. | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok, link? | 18:07 |
| rkukura | Lets make sure defering the other two is OK | 18:08 |
| rkukura | https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1158684 | 18:08 |
| rkukura | This is the nova bug where pre-created ports get deleted on VM delete | 18:08 |
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| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro had committed a workaround, and I don’t think we need to do anything more right now. | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, there is pending patch in Nova | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agree | 18:09 |
| rkukura | We need to pressure nova to rebase and review the fix | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah its pending for a long time | 18:09 |
| rkukura | The other I think we can defer is https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1383947 | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | across releases | 18:10 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: maybe just the delete subnet when BadRequest occurs? | 18:10 |
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| rkukura | This is the one were subnets get created for overlapping IPs | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: ops :) | 18:11 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro did a workaround, and the real fix is to use the subnet pool feature planned for neutron in kilo | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: got it | 18:11 |
| rkukura | the one thing we might do now on this one is to delete the subnet when adding the interface to the router results in BadRequest | 18:12 |
| rkukura | with the workaround, this could occur still occur with concurrent threads, but is not likely | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah ok | 18:12 |
| rkukura | so I think we could do that on the stable/juno branch at some point if needed | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: can we have a separate bug to track this? | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: just the delete subnet | 18:13 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think we can use the current bug, since the subnet pools are addressed in the “does not scale” bug | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:14 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Does that make sense? We’d target stable/juno I guess | 18:14 |
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| rkukura | Last high priority bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1398674 | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, for critical bug fixes we plan to back port | 18:14 |
| rkukura | This is where updating the L2 policy fails | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, you are planning to fix that? | 18:15 |
| rkukura | I could do this one today if needed, I think | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay great, we will have quick review turnaround on this | 18:15 |
| rkukura | I’m not clear on whether we really want to allow updating a PTG’s L2P at all for the RMD | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ideally i would like to clear up the review queue for any non-vendor related patched by EoD (today) | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tomorrow we can do vendor patches (ODL and Nuage) | 18:16 |
| rkukura | We cannot update it if any PTs exist in the PTG | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: true since we cannot move the PTs | 18:16 |
| rkukura | Is it OK to simpy reject any changes to the PTG’s L2P? | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yes, perhaps better to codify that in the driver thought? | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *though | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in case some other backend is able to support this? | 18:17 |
| rkukura | Or do we need to check whether any PTs have been created, and if not, we’d need to tear everything down and recreate the PTG | 18:17 |
| rkukura | This check would be the resource_mapping drive | 18:18 |
| rkukura | driver | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok great, i think the former would suffice for now | 18:18 |
| rkukura | OK, I’ll whip up a patch today | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: perhaps a comment in the code to the effect of the latter (as a possibility) | 18:18 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: agreed | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:19 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Are we concerned with the medium priority bugs at this point? | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: depends, some were classified as medium but turned out to be high | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: for the ones you have on your plate i will leave it to your judgement | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: how does it look on your plate in terms of the high priority | 18:20 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: OK, I’ll look them over | 18:20 |
| KrishnaK | Have a question related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142643/. What is the right way to check if the router id belongs to tenant during L3P creation ? | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, thanks | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: one sec, we will come to that | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: any high priority ones for which patches are not posted yet? | 18:20 |
| KrishnaK | thx | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: thanks for joining though, i know you are fighting another releae in paralle! ;-) | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *release in parallel | 18:21 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: No, patches are posted for them all, just need some modifications for hierarchial redirect | 18:21 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think all the medium and low bugs assigned to me can be defered | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok thanks | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: great | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i believe we have a plan on the hierarchical redirect based on the discussion today morning | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ? | 18:22 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: yes, will have to factor in those changes | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ok thanks, looking forward to that patch, since it has the critical bug fix as well | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: worst we might have to break those down (leave it to your judgement) | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: but we need to merge the critical fix by EoD (PST) | 18:24 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: ok, will see what can be done | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: thanks for your effort fixing the numerous bugs in quick time | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: your question now | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | “Have a question related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142643/. What is the right way to check if the router id belongs to tenant during L3P creation ?” | 18:25 |
| KrishnaK | SumitNaiksatam: thx. | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: i was thinking that if you just checked for the router existence by doing a get and filtering on the tenant_id and the router_id | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that would not work? | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: this is the bug you created for validating the resources that are explicitly provided when creating PT/PTG/L2p?l3P | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | PT and PTG is done | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK is working on L2P and L3P | 18:27 |
| KrishnaK | for the router id , tenant id is different for some case. | 18:27 |
| KrishnaK | *cases | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: really, i dont think that would be the case | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: where did you see that happening? | 18:27 |
| KrishnaK | 2014-12-18 10:28:35,249 INFO [neutron.api.v2.resource] create failed (client error): Error while creating L3 Policy : Router id a54b6371-c996-4ab7-8bae-e37fe1e797c6 does not belong to t\ he tenant id test-tenant. ====================================================================== FAIL: gbp.neutron.tests.unit.services.grouppolicy.test_resource_mapping.TestL3Policy.test_explicit_router_lifecycle | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any chance that you can help KrishnaK with this one? | 18:29 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I can try | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think his changes are breaking the existing UTs | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:30 |
| KrishnaK | rkukura: thx | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK: can you do a quick follow after this meeting with rkukura? | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *follow up | 18:30 |
| rkukura | Are these UTs that break related to shared L3Ps? | 18:30 |
| KrishnaK | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks. | 18:30 |
| KrishnaK | rkukura: I didn't see shared for that router | 18:30 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:31 |
| KrishnaK | Let me gather more debug data and email you or post in the review. | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe the UTs are breaking on in krishnak’s patch where he trying to do a validation | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on -> only | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Pending feature merges | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Hierarchical PRS compostion for redirects: #link https://review.openstack.org/140286 | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some of us met this morning to review this | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: rkukura ivar, thanks for your time | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if you are not familiar with the above feature, essentially what we are trying to do is allow the admin to introduce redirect constraints for a user’s PRS | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | an example being, the admin can introduce a firewall to inspect traffic | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: hi, good to see you here | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will come to the ODL part in just a bit | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: thanks for working on the above feature, and to ivar for reviewing it | 18:34 |
| yapeng_ | hi | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic ODL and Vendor drivers | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng and yi and the rest of the ODL team are working furiously to get the ODL integration done | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: any update for the team here? | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe you are mostly done on the openstack policy driver side? | 18:36 |
| yapeng_ | ok, single compute node is working now. | 18:36 |
| yapeng_ | yes | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: wohoo! | 18:36 |
| yapeng_ | i think Yi is working on test case part now. | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: awesome | 18:36 |
| yapeng_ | I am testing multi-compute node setup . | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: sweet | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: what about the part to raise not supported error for neutron operations? | 18:37 |
| yapeng_ | I coded it up, will test this afternoon. | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah ok | 18:37 |
| yapeng_ | if works, I will submit my patch | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is that a new patch, i dont see one posted yet | 18:37 |
| yapeng_ | i have not posted yet. | 18:37 |
| yapeng_ | should be today | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: ah ok, you might want to post it anyway as WIP, so its on people’s review radar | 18:38 |
| s3wong | we are still targeting to get ODL policy driver merged by tonight (PST)? | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng: thanks to you and yi for working on this | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: tomorrow is fine | 18:38 |
| yapeng_ | sure Sumit. | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we can have a session tomorrow morning | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | to review the workflow and the code | 18:39 |
| s3wong | there is a weekly ODL GBP status meeting tomorrow morning | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: okay | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think keith can relay the update there | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i dont believe ronak is here, but i provided some high level comments on his Nuage driver | 18:40 |
| banix | s3wong: can you pls send me a link if there is one. if handy otherwise i will find it | 18:40 |
| s3wong | banix: a link to the patch? | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: there are two patches | 18:41 |
| banix | s3wong: no the the odl gbp call | 18:41 |
| s3wong | banix: or to the webex for weekly ODL GBP meeting? | 18:41 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Packaging (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:41 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: over to you | 18:41 |
| rkukura | Ok, the openstack-neutron-gbp, python-gbpclient, and python-django-horizon-gbp packages are all officially in fedora, and are based on recent commits | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: awesome!! | 18:42 |
| rkukura | The openstack-heat-gbp package is still waiting for review, but that should be done tomorrow morning | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so are able to deploy and test from the UI? | 18:43 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I have not been able to test the UI yet | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:43 |
| rkukura | So we need to do more testing, and there are a few small fixes to the packaging to include in the next round of updates | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: some sym links have to be created to the gbp horion files, did oyu take that into consideration? | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *horizon | 18:44 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: No, will need to add the symlinks to the packaging, if that is possible. | 18:44 |
| s3wong | banix: I forwarded the ODL weekly meeting invite to your gmail account | 18:44 |
| banix | s3wong: thank you | 18:45 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Is the plan to do a juno-rc1 label? | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: see this for what i do in devstack: #link https://github.com/group-policy/devstack/commit/d52f4e7d24f2f733842593a26387ba569d7a85f5#diff-b75b6ca41d002e9482bd7ff12eda0875R136 | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: there wasnt a plan, but we can discuss | 18:46 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ideally we should have been in RC1 now | 18:46 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: OK, whether we do an RC1 or go right to the official release, do we have a process to create official tarballs on launchpad? | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i thought you were looking at the tarball part? ;-) | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i figured out adding the tags and creating the branch | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have tested adding tags | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | have created a branch | 18:47 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I’ll work with you on the tarball part | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think uploading the tarball is straightforwar, but for creating i guess we have to follow the right process | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: there are some release scripts available, but i havent tested those | 18:48 |
| rkukura | We really should test all of this with an RC1, because its possible we’ll need to make changes to setup.cfg or something | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets discuss that as a follow up to this meeting | 18:48 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | please ping me if anyone else has thoughts or suggestions on how we want to go about this (else i will follow up with rkukura) | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | sorry we havent been able to discuss Kilo specs for a while now | 18:49 |
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| rkukura | The Fedora packages will then be the basis for RDO and RHEL-OSP packages | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully once we wrap up this release we can restart | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, good to know the process there | 18:50 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: is this still the right page: #link https://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_GBP | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or is there more? | 18:51 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, but there are some newer package versions on my fedorapeople account | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, perhaps when you get some time, can we have a new openstack wiki page for all the pacakges information, and that can in turn point to the above and others pages? | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else have anything else to bring up for discussion? | 18:53 |
| yapeng_ | SumitNaiksatam: how's the status of GBP heat part? I have not got chance to integrate heat with OS and ODL GBP yet. If possible, I would like to give it a try. | 18:53 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: That probably makes sense, and should include common stuff like configuring vendor drivers and a usage tutorial | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh btw, needless to say, no meeting next week | 18:53 |
| banix | guys a quick and perhaps off question | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: perfect, thanks! | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: yes its functional | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: the same devstack you are using has heat support | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: sure, go for it | 18:54 |
| banix | are we still planning to have the gbp under the networking program or that is not going to be possible | 18:54 |
| yapeng_ | SumitNaiksatam: do you have some instruction how to verify? | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we are currently a stackforge project | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we need to get input from the community on this point | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: until then we continue to function as stackforge | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: in general, the stackforge option is always ongoing since it allows us to experiment | 18:55 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam, banix: I think having something the community can acutally use will help us get useful input. | 18:55 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: we cannot be in stackforge and under networking? just verifying | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: in parallel, we will continually evaluate in concert with the coummunity as to what goes where | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we could | 18:56 |
| banix | rkukura: i agree and great effort to get here | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: but again i think thats a community call | 18:57 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: ok thanks | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | community includes us well :-) | 18:57 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: yes we can talk again; for a project to be under a openstack project, is there a process… going off topic so pls ignore if out of time | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: np | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: actually there was only “integrated” criteria up until now | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: so you were either integrated (like nova, neutron) etc or not | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: and AFAIK, programs were integrated | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however i believe those policies are being reworked | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there is also a notion of a “def core” | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some kind of a validated core | 18:59 |
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| banix | yeah wondering for example where the lbass and service be and if we can be somewhere similar … we’ll talk more later thanks | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: for lbaas, the code was in neutron and it was split into a new repo | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: but stil neutron program | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so did not required new incubation process | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *require | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok we are at the hour | 19:00 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: ok thx | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | happy holidays and happy new year to everyone in advance | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | see you next year, if not before | 19:01 |
| s3wong | bye | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 19:01 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: same to you and the rest of the team | 19:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:01 |
| banix | bye | 19:01 |
| yapeng_ | bye | 19:01 |
| mageshgv | bye | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 19:01:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-12-18-18.01.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-12-18-18.01.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-12-18-18.01.log.html | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: sorry did not answer your question | 19:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: i will send you the instructions | 19:01 |
| yapeng_ | SumitNaiksatam: np | 19:01 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: I saw that you talked about hierarchical redirect, is there a spec on this? | 19:02 |
| yapeng_ | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: its part of the main GBP spec | 19:02 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: OK | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: the notion of parent and child PRS | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: do you think more clarifications were needed? | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: if so we can update the spec | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: in general we are way behind on the user facing documentation | 19:03 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: we mandate 'redirect' action as the last action on contract | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: correct | 19:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: well, let me rephrase | 19:04 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: so I just wonder for hierarchical redirect, do we just take the higher priority one (which presumably would be the one from parent), or ability to do two 'redirect's? | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: we cannot gaurantee that anything after the redirect will be hit in the datapath | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: good question, mind if i answer this in #openstack-gbp? | 19:04 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sure, let's move over there then | 19:05 |
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