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krotscheck#startmeeting StoryBoard16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan  5 16:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
ttxo/16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'16:00
* krotscheck peers at the bot16:00
yolandahi16:00
CTtpollardhello16:01
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krotscheckanteaya mentioned that there were bot problems, so here’s hoping we’re good.16:01
krotscheckHey there!16:01
krotscheck#topic Actions from last week16:01
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anteayakrotscheck: hi16:01
anteayaanteaya: bots seem to be working right now16:01
krotscheckanteaya: Yay.16:01
anteayaoff to a great start16:02
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krotscheckOk, so from last week: I did a bit of pestering fungi for storyboard-dev, and he’s updating the puppet module to accomodate it. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144367/16:02
krotscheckSo as soon as that passes jenkins, people can look at it.16:02
krotscheckOh, right: Agenda - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard#Agenda16:03
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krotscheckrcarrilocruz isn’t here, we’ll skip him for now since he’s still investigating socket apis.16:03
krotscheckCTtpollard: Did you manage to ping persia about docs?16:03
CTtpollardI made him aware that you asked of him16:04
krotscheckCool.16:04
krotscheckpersia: You here?16:04
CTtpollardI've only just got back from Holidays today16:04
krotscheckI’ll take silence as a no.16:04
krotscheckI’ve taken a look at documenting the event processing engine, and while trying to set up a data dictionary realized that our data is crazy inconsistent. Thus I’m working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143744/ to help with that.16:05
krotscheckBut that’s not ready yet.16:05
krotscheckAnd, honestly, I’m thinking I should table that temporarily because email is now 2 months overdue.16:06
krotscheckAny thoughts on that?16:06
yolandakrotscheck , do you need help on that one?16:06
krotscheckyolanda: Which one, the data dictionary or the emails?16:07
yolandadata dictionary16:07
krotscheckYeah, any help would be appreciated.16:07
yolandaor the other if you prefer16:07
yolandacoming back from holiday on wednesday16:07
krotscheckThe goal is to make all of our events spit out a consistent set of data that we can work off of.16:07
yolandado you have some spec for it?16:07
krotscheckFor instance: Comments don’t include the relevant story id. This feels like an oversight.16:07
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krotscheckyolanda: The patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143744/ started as a very large battery of tests that proscribe desired behavior.16:08
yolandaactually the commit message is quite accurate16:08
yolandacool, i can collaborate with that on wed16:09
krotscheckRighto.16:09
krotscheckNeat. thanks.16:09
krotscheckMoving on:16:09
krotscheck#topic Urgent Items: Deployment broken.16:09
krotscheckThat’s fixed, I believe.16:09
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krotscheck#topic User Feedback16:10
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yolandayes, latest patches went live16:10
krotscheckI just got another from jeblair https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200009516:10
yolandamm, seing that as "No title"16:10
krotscheckANyone have a thought on how to address that?16:10
yolandaok, that was a bug, now i can see it properly16:11
krotscheckArgh, it’s still doing that?16:11
yolandalooks like, yes16:11
jeblairyolanda: yeah, that sounds like the bug where it takes too long to async load the story data16:11
jeblair(or fails)16:11
* krotscheck thought he fixed that.16:11
yolandai had firebug disable so i could not see the error :(16:11
krotscheckYeah, same here.16:12
ttxI think the suggestion on the bug is the right way to fix that: "the link portion of the field should consistently be a navigation link, and only the edit icon should begin editing the field"16:12
krotscheckThat UI is starting to get crowded :/16:12
krotscheckBut I agree.16:12
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krotscheckI’ll add a comment to that effect on the bug.16:13
rcarrillocruzhey folks16:13
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CTtpollardhi16:13
yolandamakes sense to me16:13
rcarrillocruzsorry, but tomorrow it's bank holiday and i was leaving early today with wife and baby16:13
rcarrillocruz!16:13
krotscheckrcarrillocruz: No worries, we’ll catch up with you next week.16:13
krotscheckAny other user feedback?16:14
yolandakrotscheck, actually there is an edit icon next to the project name16:14
ttxyolanda: yes, so this is not adding any extra space16:14
yolandaso clicking that should allow editing of project, but i think it will be still a bit confusing16:15
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krotscheckThat’s going to be super interesting to figure out which nuance feels natural. Tabbing from field-to-field, vs clicking, vs. linking....16:15
yolandai would expect that all entries in inline task edition behave the same way16:15
yolandaso if you click on task and you can edit it, i would expect the same behaviour for project16:15
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krotscheckI agree.16:16
jeblairi think things that look like hyperlinks should act like them, and things that look like edit buttons should act like those... so i think changing the project link as described will make sense, and perhaps the task "link" should just stop looking like a link and only have an edit button16:16
jeblairi had no idea that you could tab through things and edit without selecting.16:17
jeblairi think that may be an anti-feature16:17
ttxalso, it's not that often that you /change/ a project16:18
jeblairoh16:18
jeblairalso, everytime i tab through, I'm adding another 'James E. Blair updated "Links to projects are not consistent".' to the history16:18
ttxYou add extra tasks to cover extra projects, but changing the project for an existing task ?16:18
jeblaireven without changing anything.  sorry.  i'll file a story for that.16:18
ttxI'd argue it's fione that the edit icon is so small, since swiytching project names is a non-use-case.16:19
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krotscheckSo how would you maintain a consistent set of controls, while still accomodating this? Assume that every editable field must behave the same way.16:21
ttxhmm.16:21
ttxI'll admit that switching assignees (or task titlke) will happen much more often.16:21
jeblairkrotscheck: accomodating what?  are you asking about the tab thing?16:21
yolandaso we could just remove the feature of editing the project of a task16:21
ttxi would still follow the suggestion16:21
krotscheckjeblair: I’m asking about ttx’s question.16:22
yolandaand project is just a simple hyperlink16:22
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ttxtext is a consistent hyperlink, icon triggers quickchange.16:22
ttx(the UI needs to be consistent between logged-in and not-logged-in, and those hyperlinks have values)16:22
ttxvalue*16:23
krotscheckjeblair: As for the tabbing being an anti-feature, it’s absolutely magical when you’re entering lots of tasks for a story.16:23
krotscheckAnd it’s definitely a step up from the multi-click nonsense of expand-to-see-form that we had previously16:23
jeblairkrotscheck: yeah, though it breaks expected keyboard navigation behavior, so i wonder if we could try to accomodate both16:24
jeblairstory regarding erroneous timeline entries after tabbing out of a field: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200009716:24
krotscheckWhat if we make the entire row editable?16:24
krotscheckThat is:16:24
krotscheckEverything is a hyperlink. The row has an edit button. If you click it, all fields become editable.16:25
krotscheckClick on save, and the whole thing saves.16:25
ttxkrotscheck: that would work16:25
krotscheckthat also fixes the story that jeblair just filed.16:25
krotschecks/fixes/addresses/16:25
ttxsaves icon space for sure16:25
yolandamakes sense to me, actually looks clearer16:26
jeblairkrotscheck: would that still be magical enough when entering lots of tasks?16:26
krotscheckjeblair: Entering lots of tasks ends up being a “Here’s a brand new editable row, click on save and we’ll give you a new one” thing.16:26
jeblairkrotscheck: gotcha16:26
krotscheckAlright, let’s give that a shot and see how people feel about it.16:27
krotscheck#action krotscheck switch task editing to toggleable-by-row.16:27
krotscheckAny other user feedback?16:28
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krotscheck#topic Discussion Topics (Branch Support)16:29
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krotscheckDidn’t we finish this one?16:29
ttxI think we did16:29
krotscheckCool.16:30
ttxnext one is task milestone @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139626/16:30
ttxand then I have bug types up at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129267/16:30
krotscheckAlright, I’ll tag those on the end. I’m pretty sure we’ll get to task milestones.16:30
ttxnot a lot of reviews on those specs yet, I'll wait a bit before revving them16:31
krotscheck#topic Paging (jedimike)16:31
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krotscheckjedimike is not here.16:31
yolandanot sure about jedimike availability, i think he was having some doctor appointment these days16:31
krotscheck#topic i18n16:31
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krotscheckOk, so Aleksey’s been starting to contribute to the api codebase, and he’s done a lot of improvements on basic plumbing. In particular, he did this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142503/16:32
krotscheckMy question is: Is this the right time to have a discussion about i18n?16:33
krotscheck…and to basically decide whether/what our long-term strategy might be.16:33
CTtpollardI'm not sure I know enough about internalization to comment16:34
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CTtpollardor spelling for that matter it seems....16:35
krotscheckPersonally, while I definitely think that adding the translation hooks is a good practice, I’ve yet to hear of anyone wanting to use storyboard in not-english.16:35
krotscheckCTtpollard: Just switch your dictionary ;)16:35
krotscheckDoes anyone else have an opinion?16:36
yolandai'm using spanish or catalan if i have translations available, but i suppose english is de facto language16:36
krotscheckyolanda: You speak catalan? Neat!16:36
yolandai'm catalan :)16:36
krotscheckyolanda: Have you ever worked with an app whose UI and errors are catalan/spanish, but whose user-generated content is english?16:37
yolandayes, for example i have jenkins in spanish but all tasks, logs, etc...are english16:38
krotscheckHow does that work for you?16:38
yolandait's natural to me and used to that16:38
krotscheckHuhn.16:38
yolandai see jenkins messages in spanish but i assume that all the content is going to be in english16:38
krotscheckThat’s fascinating. I’ve always made the assumption that the UI translation should match the content.16:39
yolandadoesn't need to16:39
krotscheckHow important would you rate it?16:39
yolandawell, i assume that is not possible to have content in spanish that is generated by english people, i have grown with that so I don't see that like a problem16:40
yolandabut i'm used to have the UI for ubuntu and all the available apps in spanish because is more natural to me16:41
yolandaalso for example the locale is important16:41
yolandaas date formatting, numbers, etc... is different here16:41
krotscheckyolanda: Where would you put internationalization on StoryBoard’s roadmap?16:42
ttx(FTR as far as openstack is concerned, since all content will be in english... I rate it pretty low priority)16:42
yolandakrotscheck, i don't see it like an urgent feature, but what i would do is at least to have it ready16:42
yolandathe more messages you add, the more effort you need to put later to acomodate16:43
yolandaso what i would do is at least to enable gettext as is done in the backend, so all messages are ready to be translated, but we only have english16:43
krotscheckThat seems fair. How about we add this to the roadmap in the “unplanned” section?16:44
jeblairi think it's important for storyboard to have it eventually, but i don't think it's an early priority.  i would put it in mvp 1.3.1 or later.16:44
krotscheckOr should this get mapped to a specific version?16:44
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* krotscheck is not-so-subtly trying to make yolanda do core-like roadmap things :D16:45
yolandaheh :)16:46
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yolandaso i think jeblair comment makes sense16:46
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krotscheckOk, I feel like everyone’s in the “not now, but let’s keep it in mind as we move forward."16:47
krotscheckyolanda: can you do me a favor and add it to the roadmap?16:47
krotscheckhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Roadmap16:47
yolandasure16:47
krotscheckThanks16:47
krotscheck#topic Discussion (python3)16:47
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krotscheckSimilar thing: Aleksey did a bunch of work here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142733/16:48
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krotscheckRight now we’re on 2.716:48
krotscheckDoes it make sense for us to aggressively upgrade python?16:48
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jeblairkrotscheck: the thing with that is that unless we are actually testing under python3, it will bitrot16:49
krotscheckjeblair: Point.16:49
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jeblairso i would say if someone wants to fix all the things to the point where we can enable python 3.4 tests, then sure, rip the bandaid off16:50
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krotscheckSo we care about 3.3?16:50
krotschecks/So/Do16:51
ttxI'd say no16:51
krotscheckWhat I’m hearing is: “If someone wants to put in the effort, great, otherwise let’s keep shipping features"16:52
jeblairyep16:52
krotscheckOk, moving on.16:52
krotscheck#topic Discussion (Task Milestones): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13962616:53
krotscheckI may have broken the bot.16:53
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krotscheckThere we go16:53
krotscheckttx? What’s up16:53
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ttxThat once was updated to build on top of the approved task branch spec16:54
krotscheckJust a rebase right?16:54
ttxyes, still has 3 +1s16:54
ttxso you might want to review it16:55
ttxthat said, we already have a sane pipeline of unimplemented features16:55
krotscheckWe do.16:55
ttxso I don't think reviewing that is top prio16:55
krotscheckBut I will16:55
ttxsame for the story types spec16:55
ttxThat one was heavily rewritten to be more generally applicable and less hardcoded16:56
ttxsince that's the spirit of the times16:56
krotscheckawesome.16:56
krotscheckAre you comfortable switching topics to Open Discussion?16:56
ttxI basically distilled the types we need for openstack into a series of properties16:56
yolandattx, i added a comment about task mutation16:56
ttxyolanda: yep, saw that16:57
ttxyolanda: sounds valid to me16:57
yolandaso it may be possible that not all states can mutate to others16:57
ttxthose properties can be combined to build custom types16:57
* krotscheck has his interest piqued.16:57
ttxso overall it feels a lot more flexible16:58
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ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/129267/16:58
ttxfor ref ^16:58
krotscheck2 minute warning16:58
ttxkrotscheck: it started as an alternative implementation, but then I liked it enough to replace the original one.16:59
ttxI'm done, we can switch to open discussion16:59
krotscheckttx: That sounds like exactly the kind of thing that happens when people write specs, and why we like them so much :)17:00
krotscheckNaah, we’re out of time.17:00
krotscheckThanks everyone!17:00
krotscheck#endmeeting17:00
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