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arosen-trainHi17:06
jwyhi17:06
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thinrichsHi all17:07
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Radu_Hello17:07
arosen-trainHi17:07
thinrichsSorry I'm late.  Another meeting ran long.17:07
thinrichs#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting17:07
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 27 17:07:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:07
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:07
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting'17:07
thinrichsLet's start with status17:08
thinrichs#topic status17:08
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thinrichsWho wants to start?17:08
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arosen-trainI can start if no one wants to go.17:08
arosen-trainI've been working with pivotal on integration pivotal.io with congress.17:09
thinrichsarosen-train: go for it.17:09
arosen-trainThere are two parts of active development here.17:09
arosen-trainThe first one is to create python-bindings to interface with their api.17:09
arosen-trainCurrently they only have go bindings17:09
arosen-trainThe python bindings are going to be on stackforge in python-cloudfoundryclient once this merger https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149173/17:10
arosen-trainthe second part is the congress datasource driver which i'm working on with another guy at pivotal so hopefully that will be pushed to review later this week.17:11
arosen-trainThat's all unless anyone wants to discuess.17:11
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thinrichsCool stuff!17:11
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thinrichsIntegrating with Cloudfoundry will give us the ability to write policy at the app-layer.17:11
thinrichsWhich everyone seems to want.17:11
arosen-trainyup, excited to see this happening.17:12
zhipengthinrichs one quick word, I'm still on track on the trigger BP, I'm trying to catch the K-2 target17:13
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arosen-trainzhipeng:great!17:13
thinrichszhipeng: super!17:13
thinrichsHow's it going?17:13
zhipengthere are just a hell of stuff going around me, but I'm on track17:13
thinrichsNeed anything from us?17:13
zhipengone silly question17:13
zhipengdo u know how to test my patch locally using devstack?17:13
zhipengI asked sean days ago17:14
arosen-trainzhipeng: what do you mean by test?17:14
arosen-trainas in run the tempest tests?17:14
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zhipengI guess so, just want to be sure before I submit17:14
thinrichszhipeng: could you be more specific about what tests you'd like to run?17:14
thinrichsAre you running tox -epy2717:14
arosen-trainzhipeng: there are two kinds of tests that congress has. Unittests/pep8 tests and tempest.17:14
arosen-trainalso tox -epep8  to run the style checker.17:15
zhipengI just have a vague idea, I played with odl+openstack sometimes ago, when we tried to modify stuff we could check out if the patch is working17:15
zhipenglocally17:15
arosen-trainTo run the tempest tests  you need to have devstack setup tempest. Just add tempest to ENABLED_SERVICES and then follow: https://github.com/stackforge/congress/tree/master/contrib/tempest17:15
zhipengwith devstack17:15
zhipengah great17:16
arosen-trainzhipeng: right a while ago devstack had some simple tests to do some sanify stuff but i don't think devstack was running tempest for you?17:16
zhipengnot tempest17:17
arosen-trainzhipeng: ah okay, i believe those exercise scripts have been removed from devstack in favor of tempest.17:17
zhipengyes that's right17:18
zhipengand I think the link you provide is what im looking for17:18
zhipengthx for the info :)17:18
arosen-trainzhipeng: i lied they aren't removed but not being run by jenkins. https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/master/exercises17:18
arosen-trainI think we should just do all of this testing in tempest as well rather than having a bash script with some tests.17:19
zhipengyep17:19
zhipenggreat I will try it out17:19
zhipenggotta go fellas it's really late in China17:20
zhipengI will send you guys emails if something troubles me17:20
zhipengthanks for the help :)17:20
arosen-trainsounds good. NIght17:20
thinrichsSounds good.  And don't be bashful about pushing code to review.  You can always mark it Work-in-progress.17:20
thinrichszhipeng: thanks for staying up late for us!17:20
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thinrichsjwy: want to go next?17:21
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jwyok17:21
jwynot much progress on the horizon policy creation blueprint17:21
jwydid some code reviews17:22
jwyi think that's it17:22
thinrichsAny idea as to an ETA for the horizon policy creation?17:23
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thinrichskilo2 is Feb 5.17:24
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thinrichsLooking through the other high priority blueprints to see if those folks are here…17:25
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jwysorry, i got disconnected and missed if anyone said anything to me17:26
thinrichsjwy: I asked if you had a guess when you'd have the horizon policy creation done.17:26
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jwythinrichs: i probably need through next week17:28
thinrichsjwy: in the next couple of weeks is great!17:28
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thinrichsalexsyip: want to take a turn?17:28
jwykilo-2 deadline is 2/12?17:28
alexsyipyeah, I worked on speeding up the import from dse to the congress runtime.17:29
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alexsyipNow, importing 700MB in 7M rows takes 80 seconds and uses 4GB of memory.17:29
alexsyipThis is down from last week at 10min and 12GB.17:30
jwywoot17:30
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alexsyipwhich was down from infinite time and memory.17:30
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alexsyipSo big change that went into this was to store facts as native tuples instead of using a bunch of python objects like Literal, Rule, Param.17:30
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thinrichsalexsyip: Fantastic!17:31
alexsyipAnd I streamlined the initialize_tables code to use generators.17:31
alexsyipSo we avoid creating a bunch of lists.17:32
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alexsyipSo I think importing is fast enough now.17:32
thinrichsThat's really exciting progress.  And will be crucial for working with real systems.17:33
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alexsyipI have not tested how DSE handles this much data.17:33
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alexsyipanyway, that’ all.17:34
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thinrichsThanks!17:34
thinrichssarob: want to go next?17:34
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arosen-trainsarob:might be tied up with the nova midcycle that's going on now.17:36
thinrichsOkay.17:36
thinrichsThere's one idea we've been kicking around.17:36
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thinrichsWhat would people think about having a sprint in the near future?17:36
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thinrichsWe'd get people together for a day or two to churn out some code.17:37
thinrichsPeople could participate remotely as well.17:37
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thinrichsWho thinks that sounds good?17:37
jwyi think that could be useful17:37
arosen-trainThat sounds like a fun idea. I would be down to attend.17:37
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thinrichsSeems like we're missing a few folks.  Maybe we'll also reach out via email/ML to gauge interest.17:39
arosen-trainI think it would be good if we could come up with some small projects in congress as well. I feel like the blueprints we currently have out there might be to large for someone to bite off in a hackathon17:39
thinrichsTrying to think what other updates sarob might have...17:39
thinrichsGood suggestion.17:40
arosen-trainI know we could definitely get people started writing some tempest scenario tests.17:40
thinrichsShall we each try to put together (at least) 2 bite-sized blueprints by next week?17:40
jwyare there bugs that would be hackathon worthy?17:40
thinrichsEven if we don't have the sprint, that could be useful.17:40
arosen-trainWould could be interesting since we could come up with some real use case policies and implement them.17:41
jwyi think we tagged some bugs as low-hanging at some point. time to go through the newer ones and do it again?17:41
thinrichsjwy: that's another good suggestion.17:41
arosen-trainjwy:probably :)17:41
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thinrichsLet's all make an effort this week to create blueprints and bug reports.17:42
arosen-trainsounds good17:43
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thinrichsRadu_: you still around?  Have anything to report?17:43
Radu_Yeah, didnt have any time conflict for a change this week17:44
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Radu_Nothing much to report though, made a patch for the plexxi driver to sort out some issues it had with the horizon integration17:44
thinrichsGlad you could make it this week!17:44
Radu_Sort of inbetween projects at the moment17:44
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thinrichsRadu_: would you like suggestions as to your next project?  :)17:45
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Radu_maybe out of the meeting I could take a few, I would have to pass them upward to get approval to work on them though.17:47
sarobim back17:47
Radu_But yeah, thats about all I have, a patch and I submitted a bug report for horizon integration last week17:48
thinrichsRadu_: of course.  If you want suggestions, let us know.17:48
thinrichsWe always love bug reports.17:48
thinrichsWe also always love code reviews.17:48
thinrichsjwy: I've noticed you've been doing quite a few more reviews: nice!17:48
thinrichssarob: anything to report?  We discussed the sprint already.17:49
sarobnope, the sprint was it17:49
thinrichsAnyone else with a status report?17:49
jwythinrichs: thanks, trying to familiarize myself more with other parts of the code17:50
thinrichsLet's open it up for discussion for a few minutes.17:51
thinrichs#topic open-discussion17:51
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madhumohanthinrichs: modal operators is in reviews. have some errors after rebase..these errors do not seem to be related to the changes done... need to fix them up...17:52
thinrichsmadhumohan: great!  I'll take a look hopefully today.17:52
thinrichsSorry—there have been some pretty massive changes to the policy engine (textually).  Let us know if you want help with the rebase.17:53
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit and Zuul will be offline for a few minutes for a security update17:53
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thinrichsAnyone else?  Last call.17:56
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thinrichsThanks all!  Keep in touch over IRC and the ML.17:57
thinrichsSee you next week!17:57
thinrichs#endmeeting17:57
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briancurtin#startmeeting python-openstacksdk19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 27 19:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk'19:00
etoewso/19:00
briancurtinFYI I'm double booked at this time so I'm here and also in a video conference, so I may be sort of slow19:00
stevelleo/19:01
briancurtinif you're here for the SDK meeting, say hi19:01
briancurtinBrian Curtin, Rackspace19:01
terrylhoweTerry Howe, HP19:01
etoewsEverett Toews, Rackspace19:01
stevelleSteve Lewis, Rackspace19:01
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briancurtini put together a small agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2015-01-27_1900_UTC19:02
briancurtinfirst two things from me though19:02
briancurtinsince internal priorities changed, i'm holding off by a week or so on the CDN + rackspace auth plugin thing. probably getting back to that next week19:03
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briancurtini'm going to the Cinder mid-cycle meetup tomorrow and am going to talk to a few people there about the SDK, so i've been building out cinder v2 support heading into that. should be in a review later today19:03
briancurtini mostly moved into that so i had something to talk with them about and demo. i also went to the keystone meetup last week, and there were a few small conversations around how to grow the project, which led to why im going to the cinder meetup19:04
terrylhoweawesome on cinder19:04
etoewsdid you start with cinder v1 or v2?19:05
etoewsnm19:05
etoewsv219:05
briancurtinit'll be easy enough to add v2, but it's more topical to what they're talking about so i went with that one19:05
briancurtiner, add v119:05
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briancurtin#topic Resource.page - how to represent this in the higher level19:06
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briancurtinterrylhowe: so Resource.page looks good, and save for one minor thing, the change to Resource.find also looks good. im wondering how to fit them into the higher level. for example, with the object_store, we return an iterator for everything with "containers()" - getting one could be get_container, but i'm not sure about one page at a time19:08
etoewsbriancurtin: do you have a link for that?19:08
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terrylhowehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/149848/19:09
briancurtinetoews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149848/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149850/ are the changes19:09
terrylhoweI guess I should maybe review what resources override Resource.list and see if there are changes needed19:10
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terrylhoweI just wanted something easier for Resource.find to use19:11
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briancurtinterrylhowe: so maybe it's not something we even expose to the higher level? i see teh benefit within Resource, just trying to think above it as well19:11
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terrylhoweI thought there might be other uses for it briancurtin but maybe we could make it private for now to simplify things.  I’d still need to look at resources that override Resource.list19:13
briancurtinterrylhowe: like i'm thinking if you were filling out something like a template on a website with pages of containers/servers/networks, you might want just one page but not actually all of them. i guess you could handle that while consuming from the Resource.list and just bail out when you have what you want19:13
terrylhoweyep19:14
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briancurtini dont think it actually needs to be private in that it has a leading underscore. i think it's fine as a public API, just perhaps not fitting every case19:14
terrylhoweokay19:15
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briancurtin#topic auth plugin refactor19:16
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briancurtinterrylhowe:  on the review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136933/) you mentioned potential growth into the UserPreference. any thoughts on where that's going?19:17
briancurtini had been thinking about some of the same with this rackspace auth plugin, but haven't touched UP yet19:18
terrylhoweOne thing I wanted to do was provide a list of plugins on the help for the command line example to make sure that worked19:18
terrylhoweDoug H suggested that a while back19:18
terrylhoweit is also about moving that code over for things like your cdn work so Connection doesn’t get cluttered19:19
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terrylhoweI would expect that module loader to be loading other extensions19:21
briancurtinterrylhowe: one thought i had is that a Rackspace plugin provides its own UserPreference that exposes where in the Rackspace plugin some of our things live, like if i have something for our Cloud Monitoring (not a openstack project), it could still show up when i auth with rackspace19:21
etoewsbriancurtin: +119:21
terrylhoweyour own auth plugin, right?19:22
etoewsthe user shouldn't even have to specify the endpoint when using a provider specific plugin19:22
terrylhowehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/149848/ for refrence19:23
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terrylhoweah, etoews I think the endpoint could be hardcoded in the plugin, that makes sense to me19:23
etoewsterrylhowe: that's what i'm thinking19:24
terrylhoweI think that module loader would allow all that19:24
briancurtinterrylhowe: yeah this would be Rackspace plugin as a whole - an auth provider, any necessary classes, its own UserPreference, etc. would make it easier to just say connection.Connection(auth_plugin="rackspace") and our rackspace plugin would figure it out19:24
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terrylhoweYeh, I guess I’d need to look at UserPreferences now to see if is going to mess with you, but I think that sort of thing should be supported19:25
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briancurtinterrylhowe: i guess i'll know more next week once i move back to cdn/plugin stuff19:27
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terrylhoweyeh, I have a task card to add some plugins for proprietary stuff, so I’m curious to see how it works for you.  I think you’ll get started before I do at this rate.19:28
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briancurtinanother thing i might want to do which came from giving etoews a walkthrough of the SDK is using os-client-config. the stuff in examples.setup() is nice for examples, but for setting up something real in a Connection it might be nice to pass in a config19:31
etoewshow far along is os-client-config integration with openstackclient?19:32
terrylhoweI thought it was done or work-in-progress19:33
terrylhowethere was a lot of chatter between Monty and Dean a while back on that19:33
briancurtinterrylhowe: i guess i'll have to check on where it's at. i've just seen a bunch of movement on it lately and the idea of configuration to pass in came up19:35
terrylhoweI like the idea of using os-client-config.  I’ve only looked at the project a little bit, but seems a good way to go19:37
etoewsat the very least use the same yaml format19:38
terrylhoweyep19:39
briancurtini'll try to get the ears of client-config people and see where it's at and where it's going19:40
briancurtinanything else going on?19:42
terrylhowenot much, just actually pushing patches lately19:42
terrylhowethanks for all the feedback19:43
briancurtinfun to see it moving quicker these last few weeks19:43
etoewsgoing back to pagination...wanna see something horrible?19:43
etoews#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/webapi/v2.html#complex-query19:44
etoewsceilometer does a listing of samples and alarms with a POST19:44
etoewsshould say, ceilometer *can do* a listing of samples and alarms with a POST19:45
terrylhowe:)19:45
etoewsthat page function won't be reusable on that monstrosity19:46
terrylhoweI’m surprised you can’t post a python program to sort through the results as well19:47
etoewslol19:47
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briancurtinetoews: that's a place we'll probably just have a ceilometer Resource provide its own page/list/whatever19:47
briancurtinwe do that in a small amount of places for custom GETs, i think19:47
stevellepretty much that19:48
etoewsya. just burns me up they'd do something like that.19:48
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terrylhoweyou converting to python etoews ?19:50
etoewswell...since you asked. yes.19:51
etoewsi'll be helping out on the openstack sdk.19:51
terrylhowereally!  good news :)19:51
etoewsprepare yourself. rusty python is coming.19:52
etoewsin reviews that is. :P19:52
terrylhowebring it19:53
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etoewsbriancurtin: did you push that swift work you were showing me?19:56
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briancurtinetoews: not yet, one more test needs to pass and then it'll be out19:56
etoewscool.19:56
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etoewsis there anything in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/python-openstacksdk,n,z that's mergable?19:57
etoewswow. that's a lot of sec group rules to create a jenkins server.19:58
terrylhoweian’s image proxy19:58
briancurtinetoews: "working script", "add the capability"19:58
terrylhoweI’m not entirely suire all the rules are required, but sometimes it helps to be specific19:59
briancurtinterrylhowe: i think ian is going to try and rework that into something like object_store and see what happens19:59
terrylhowewell, there is definitely a higher level that could be added, but it would be nice to have the basics too20:00
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etoewsis it common in python to put that much logic in an except?20:00
etoewsbriancurtin: looks like we're at time.20:01
terrylhoweeven though I wrote that code, briancurtin could probably answer that better20:01
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briancurtin#endmeeting20:04
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