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| rbertram | Morning r1chardj0n3s | 11:59 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | hey rbertram | 11:59 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right, just gonna go pour a whiskey so it's ready for the meeting :) | 11:59 |
| rbertram | Lol | 11:59 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right, I'm ready :) | 12:01 |
| david-lyle_afk | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 4 12:01:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle_afk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:01 |
| david-lyle_afk | Hello everyone | 12:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hihi david-lyle_afk | 12:01 |
| mattfarina | Hello | 12:01 |
| akrivoka | hi everyone | 12:01 |
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| rbertram | Hey | 12:01 |
| mrunge | hey o/ | 12:01 |
| * david-lyle slightly less afk now | 12:01 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | "slightly" :) | 12:01 |
| david-lyle | the beauty of 5am | 12:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :/ | 12:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh, radomir isn't here | 12:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh well, he misses out! | 12:02 |
| david-lyle | first for the bookkeeping | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | k-2 closes on Feb 5, I would like to have it wrapped and tagged latter today US time | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-2 | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | I trimmed the list down substantially for bps | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | there are 3 more that have a chance of landing | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | the rest got bumped to k-3 | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | which is now excessively large | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | and contains all the big ticket items for Juno | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | I'm not sure I even have a general angularization bp | 12:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: that was originally covered by the identity table rework bp | 12:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: and the launch instance bp | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | that's what I was about to ask | 12:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the scope has creeped since then :/ | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | about the identity | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: sure | 12:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | unfortunately, that's still thai's baby even though I help out around the edges | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | I think we're getting close to start landing a lot of the backend part of that | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | but we can talk about that in a bit | 12:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it is certainly starting to land, yes | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | so other than k-2 closing and needing a few more core reviews | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | other general items are... | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | We spent a bit of the cross-project meeting yesterday discussing the big-tent and horizon | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | as I mentioned in the last meeting, we need to come up with a plan | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | we were leaning toward a pure plugin model at the last Horizon meeting | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | I think that will have to suffice for some items, the concern that remains is consistent UX | 12:10 |
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| * david-lyle is cheating slightly by calling Horizon consistent | 12:10 | |
| mattfarina | i've not looked but, would that plugin model work for JS? | 12:10 |
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| david-lyle | mattfarina: yes, it's designed to | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | you can add angular modules now | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | there was some concern that some trove and sahara patches have been languishing | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | which was the reason for the conversation | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | just mentioning to everyone, because it's not just on my mind moving forward | 12:12 |
| mrunge | oh, there are more patches like that, e.g some neutron and all router dashboard patches | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: indeed | 12:13 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, the main issue here is, we don't have the expertise in those areas | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | that was also brought up | 12:13 |
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| mrunge | moving areas back to the projects would be a good option | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle | but you lose UX consistency and potentially overall quality | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | it needs to be discussed more | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | the router dash is a special case | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle | it's a third party dash that slipped in | 12:15 |
| mrunge | yes | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | I don't think it belongs | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | I'm ok with bug fixes to it because it's there, but don't want to add new features | 12:15 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, but wouldn't then the plugin model fit for this? | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: aboslutely for a third party | 12:16 |
| KanagarajM | david-lyle: For admin-> system info panel, I have submitted one horizon blue print for a new feature implemented in heat in k-2 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/heat-engine-status-report-horizon. could you consider for k-3? | 12:16 |
| mrunge | I could assume, e.g. a company working on storage might want to see additional features supported? | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | we may even want to spin it out ourselves | 12:16 |
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| mrunge | I assumed that ;-) | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: yes, if it goes beyond the cinder API, it should be external | 12:17 |
| mrunge | what about 'rings' in horizon? | 12:17 |
| mrunge | core horizon and plugins? | 12:17 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: where do the plugins live | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | that's the remaining question | 12:18 |
| mrunge | whereas I wouldn't necessarily make a technical distinction between plugins and core | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | I see 3 rings | 12:18 |
| mrunge | ... and which ones? | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | core, openstack big tent projects, and 3rd party | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | the two ends are easy | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | middle one's home needs to be determined | 12:19 |
| mrunge | openstack - stackforge - closed source proprietary shit ? | 12:20 |
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| david-lyle | the thing is stackforge will become openstack | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | for more things | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | possibly a lot more things | 12:21 |
| mrunge | sigh. get's worse and worse to put it all together | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I agree, but a UI that looks like 20 different teams slapped it together is not a great answer either | 12:22 |
| mrunge | I totally agree with you | 12:23 |
| rdopiera | that's why we need to make it easier to make and extend the views | 12:23 |
| rdopiera | I had that proposal for layouts that got shot down by angular... | 12:23 |
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| mattfarina | rdopiera i like the "extend the views" part of that | 12:23 |
| rdopiera | mattfarina: we are struggling with that in tuskar-ui (aka tripleo-ui) | 12:24 |
| rdopiera | it's possible currently, but a lot of boilerplate and unnecessary work | 12:24 |
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| rdopiera | and you may get conflicts between plugins easily | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: extend the views how, extend instances view or horizon views in general? | 12:25 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: right now we have classes for the views that are like table view, or tab view, etc. | 12:25 |
| mattfarina | rdopiera i was thinking of looking into this post kilo. other systems have solved the conflit issue well enough | 12:26 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: I would like to replace those with "layout" views with slots -- things like tables, tabs, menus, graphs -- would go into those slots | 12:26 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: so each view would basically have a list of objects that go into those slots, and would be responsible for rendering their html in the right spot on the page | 12:27 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: this way you can easily replace one slot with another, or add another slot to a view | 12:27 |
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| rdopiera | there would be different layout views -- simple, two-column, with tabs, etc. | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: I remember the proposal now | 12:29 |
| rdopiera | a lot like the gui toolkits | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | it's still valid even if it's done in angular | 12:29 |
| * david-lyle just shuddered thinking of python generated angular | 12:30 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | just don't do it | 12:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :P | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: scared myself | 12:31 |
| TravT | what about some angular generated pythong? | 12:31 |
| rdopiera | well, the contents of those slots may as well be angular stuff | 12:31 |
| rdopiera | it doesn't matter | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: yes | 12:31 |
| rdopiera | it's just for the plugins to be able to easily swap them out | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | or django at this point | 12:32 |
| rdopiera | it will also make it easier to rewrite stuff to angular | 12:32 |
| rdopiera | because you can do it in smaller steps | 12:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | not that "slots" in angular might just be *directives* which can be extended or overridden | 12:33 |
| r1chardj0n3s | er, "note" not "not" | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | I find it surprising that django doesn't already have these types of views | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | will research more after | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | I'll start a mailing list thread about horizon and the big tent | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | we can discuss there | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | we have an agenda to get to :) | 12:35 |
| neillc | rdopiera: do you have a link to your proposal? | 12:35 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: please include a small intro in that email :) | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: will do | 12:35 |
| r1chardj0n3s | cheers! | 12:36 |
| rdopiera | neillc: I'm not sure, it was a year ago | 12:36 |
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| rdopiera | neillc: it was written up in the etherpads for the Atlanta summit... | 12:36 |
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| david-lyle_afk | #topic Switching to bower from xstatic | 12:36 |
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| neillc | ok thanks | 12:36 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok this is the topic I added :) | 12:37 |
| * david-lyle pass r1chardj0n3s the mic | 12:37 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks! | 12:37 |
| r1chardj0n3s | So rdopiera asked me if I could go ahead and implement https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/static-file-bower | 12:37 |
| r1chardj0n3s | since objections are withering away at this point | 12:37 |
| r1chardj0n3s | a couple of people popped up saying that lack of node.js support on their platforms is a problem | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so ... I wrote a python implementation of the subset of bower that we need | 12:38 |
| mattfarina | r1chardj0n3s did anyone figure out the plan for mirrors of the code (in addition to the bower registry) for testing and build environments? | 12:38 |
| david-lyle | nothing more python won't fix | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mattfarina: I'm totally getting to that :) | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | It's not finished, but the remaining work is not a huge task and neillc's going to finish it off | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think this is the least-resistance path to getting bower into the project | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | It won't handle dependencies, requiring us to explicitly list all components with pinned versions. I believe this is desirable for Horizon anyway. | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Once we've got that integrated into Horizon, we will look at providing a simple caching proxy that can be used by #infra to remove Internet connectivity issues. | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (hai mattfarina ;) | 12:39 |
| rdopiera | that's awesome | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | so a bower freeze | 12:39 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 12:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | bower (the node.js implementation) has no capacity for mirrors/proxies and probably never will because it's *hideously* complex | 12:40 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | bower.py on the other hand is a simple implementation and we can easily add a caching proxy mode | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | sounds reasonable | 12:41 |
| mrunge | this is *awesome* | 12:41 |
| david-lyle | this will solve a lot of headaches | 12:41 |
| r1chardj0n3s | FYI the current implementation is https://github.com/r1chardj0n3s/laughing-robot | 12:41 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (I love github's always-appropriate random project names ;) | 12:41 |
| david-lyle | and neillc thanks for taking one for the team :D | 12:41 |
| neillc | heh | 12:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yes! | 12:42 |
| david-lyle | so next week then?... | 12:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so, if everyone's cool with that as an approach, we (well, neillc) will forge ahead! | 12:42 |
| david-lyle | +1 | 12:43 |
| rbertram | r1chardj0n3s: when is it ready for us to use? | 12:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | neillc totally said he'd have it done by Friday | 12:43 |
| TravT | r1chardj0n3s: I love it. | 12:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :) | 12:43 |
| mattfarina | +1 | 12:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | [he might not have said that thing] | 12:43 |
| neillc | that's not quite how *I* remember that conversation going... | 12:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh sure | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | thanks r1chardj0n3s | 12:44 |
| david-lyle | great news | 12:44 |
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| david-lyle_afk | #topic Open Discussion | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | rbertram: more realistically, patches will start hitting (for new requirements and the integration of the tool) in the next week or two | 12:45 |
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| rbertram | r1chardj0n3s: cool | 12:45 |
| david-lyle | After that high note, I'd like to bring it down a bit and remind people that k-3 closes on March 19, just 6 weeks away | 12:46 |
| david-lyle | We have a lot of high priority items left to get in | 12:46 |
| * rbertram is taking x static items off his todo list | 12:46 | |
| david-lyle | so we're really going to have to push to land some of the big changes | 12:47 |
| r1chardj0n3s | also, folks, please think about how bower.py might assist the creation of system packages from bower packages | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | assuming they're ready | 12:47 |
| mattfarina | the system packages are build on xstatic ones. so, we'll still need to maintain the ones we already do | 12:48 |
| mattfarina | unless the build process changes | 12:48 |
| mattfarina | any thought to how to do that? | 12:49 |
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| mrunge | I see separate packages as a profit here | 12:50 |
| mrunge | since we won't interphere with already released versions | 12:50 |
| mattfarina | on an unrelated note, has anyone looked at the angular reusable wizard... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137417 | 12:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: at the moment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150636/ is kinda the blocker patch for the angular work | 12:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mattfarina: shen only just added the demo, and it's 11:51pm so I was going to look at it tomorrow :) | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: that's my top review priority other than k-2 | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | not much left for k-2 | 12:52 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: it's certainly my priority patch | 12:52 |
| TravT | Yes, that reusable wizard is the next thing ready for reviews. | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: I will look today | 12:53 |
| TravT | we've got a number of other reusable widgets that should be ready within the next week | 12:53 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I've already gone over the code of the wizard, but haven't had a chance to see it in action, which is why the demo is great to have now | 12:53 |
| TravT | r1chardj0n3s: how close is the keystone api? | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | TravT: shen raised an issue about unit tests, which I've had to respond vaguely to | 12:54 |
| TravT | i didn't get to rebase the glance api on it today and round it out, but will later today. | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm pretty sure I covered off your params issue | 12:54 |
| TravT | yes, i saw that | 12:55 |
| TravT | thanks | 12:55 |
| TravT | it looks like it should work | 12:55 |
| r1chardj0n3s | np :) | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: in all fairness he commented vaguely to begin with | 12:55 |
| mattfarina | r1chardj0n3s which tests? The Jasmine ones? | 12:55 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mattfarina: yep | 12:56 |
| mattfarina | r1chardj0n3s he has another review up to address Jasmine | 12:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | BTW if anyone has any objections to me adding support for using karma as the jasmin test runner, please speak now | 12:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :) | 12:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mattfarina: that was a jasmine configuration issue though - which I had to fix in my patch anyway (so rebase, yay!) | 12:56 |
| * rdopiera has no objections | 12:56 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | (current jasmine configuration is ... obscure ;) | 12:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think someone mentioned jpich's phrase "tribal knowledge" IIRC | 12:58 |
| TravT | we've got a lot of cross dependencies going on with this work that is going to be pretty painful if we don't merge and iterate | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | tribe of 2 maybe | 12:58 |
| * david-lyle not in that tribe | 12:58 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: indeed | 12:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | TravT: yes, merging ASAP :) | 12:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm getting good at rebasing and cherry-picking. These aren't life goals I originally had ;) | 12:59 |
| mattfarina | ha | 12:59 |
| TravT | i love your latest branch name | 12:59 |
| TravT | merge-hell | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | cores, please review the angular patches, the best part is r1chardj0n3s top patch isn't even angular | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | for the most part | 12:59 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I completely forgot that those are exposed ;) | 12:59 |
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| david-lyle | forgot about the 200 lines | 13:00 |
| david-lyle | not all angular | 13:00 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, you could have picked worse names ;) | 13:00 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150636/16 | 13:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: I will be *very* careful in the future choosing my names ;) | 13:00 |
| TravT | you can always do the git review -t <topic> if you want to give a diff name | 13:00 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | oh, you should *not* have told me about that ;) | 13:01 |
| TravT | but I don't mind the funny names | 13:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | whee! | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | time's up. Thanks everyone and have a great week. 6 weeks until k-3 | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 4 13:01:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-04-12.01.html | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-04-12.01.txt | 13:01 |
| TravT | rhx | 13:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-04-12.01.log.html | 13:01 |
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| TravT | thx | 13:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks all! | 13:02 |
| neillc | thanks all | 13:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: hi | 18:01 |
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| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, Hi | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: pc_m: hi | 18:30 |
| pc_m | hi | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: hi | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started | 18:30 |
| badveli | hello sumit | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 4 18:30:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:30 | |
| vishwanathj | SridarK, pc_m, badveli, hi | 18:30 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:30 |
| badveli | hello viswantah | 18:30 |
| pc_m | vishwanathj: hi | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info metting agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info Kilo-2 is Feb 5th | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that is tomorrow | 18:31 |
| SridarK | hi all | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other pieces of information worth sharing? | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:32 | |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: nothing new that needs attention | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yeah, my observation as well | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there were a few issues which cropped up during the week | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thankfully folks jumped in and patches are passing the gate | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | * jumped in with a fix | 18:34 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: :-) | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | :-) | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: anything to report on the bugs assigned to you? | 18:34 |
| badveli | sumit looked like some other modules implemented the connection track | 18:35 |
| badveli | i saw some review | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | good, can you post the review? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | review link | 18:35 |
| badveli | trying to check now, i saw it when i was checking all the open reviews | 18:36 |
| badveli | i will send the link to the team | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: thanks | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Docs | 18:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:37 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | it seems that there are some doc bugs for the freescale fwaas plugin | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other than that i dont see anything new | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: did you notice anything? | 18:38 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: nothing else | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay good | 18:38 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i will check with swami if there is anything pending on the dvr changes - i think it is done | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks | 18:39 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: np at all | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so just FYI for everyone - the freescale patch author added the DocImpact flag to his review | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that generated a bug like this: | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1417237 | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and that can be followed up witha documentation patch | 18:40 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: thanks - good to know this | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, since we have quite a few vendor patches in review | 18:41 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and i would imagine that might need to be documented | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | although things keep changing with regards to the vendor documentation | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and i am not sure that exactly what is the latest on that (in terms of incorporating vendor docs in the main docs) | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but just keep an eye on this | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay moving one | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *on | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Firewall Insertion | 18:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Firewall Insertion (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:43 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks for the WIP patch | 18:43 |
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| SridarK | Basic skeleton | 18:43 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134896/ | 18:43 |
| SridarK | sorry | 18:43 |
| SridarK | wrong link | 18:44 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/152697 | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i suspect that this is now target for kilo-3 | 18:44 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes we should be good | 18:44 |
| SridarK | basic extension and db changes | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we will have to really push to ge this in at the front end of k-3 | 18:44 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes for sure | 18:45 |
| SridarK | Trying to keep a separation between the extension & db code for existing fwaas and the insertion work now. | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since we might need to refactor the vendor plugins/drivers | 18:45 |
| SridarK | Trying to keep that in mind for sure and see how we can minimize impact | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i guess the good thing is that the firewall extension have moved to the neutron-fwaas repo | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks | 18:45 |
| SridarK | yes that was good | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we dont have to do the multi-repo acrobatics | 18:46 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: surely is a blessing | 18:46 |
| badveli | Sumit i did not really follow this | 18:46 |
| badveli | could you please explain | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | given that I think we should go full steam ahead and try to get this wrapped up | 18:46 |
| SridarK | yes | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: sorry, which part? | 18:46 |
| SridarK | badveli: few mins pls | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: go ahead | 18:47 |
| SridarK | one thought is that keeping the new extension and db as a separate entity will enable other plugins to pick up the the basic FW resource, policies, rules etc and if needed adopt the router insertion extension. If they need a different insertion strategy they can still use the fwaas extension (and db) and use a different extension / db implementation for their own insertion model. IMHO, keeping this separation will enabl | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone have a chance to look at SridarK’s patch? | 18:47 |
| vishwanathj | nope | 18:48 |
| SridarK | also this can help minimize impacts to other plugins | 18:48 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i think this will keep things clean in terms of the insertion have some separation | 18:49 |
| SridarK | Anyways just trying to get some rationale out there - we can always discuss more offline or in the review | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: by keeping the extension and db separate, you mean using attribute extension (instead of, say, adding the router attribute to the firewall resource)? | 18:49 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:50 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: and also the db for these parts as a separate table | 18:50 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i want to avoid polluting the existing firewall db code as much as possible | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: the db can still be a separate table (and I think it will need to be regardless of how you decided to extend the resource definition) | 18:51 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: the plugin will include the existing fwaas extension and this new rtrinsertion extension | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: since its a 1:n relationship | 18:51 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: we will keep the logic in the plugin | 18:51 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes u are correct | 18:51 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i want other plugins to inherit from the existing firewall db class | 18:52 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: irrespective of the insertion strategy | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i think the choice will be between adding the “router_ids” as an optional attribute to the firewall resource, or using the attribute extension | 18:52 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes the latter | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: sorry i forget, but did we state an explicit design decision in our spec? | 18:53 |
| SridarK | so it is not in the firewall resource as such | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if we did then, we are just executing on that design | 18:53 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i think i did state both as possible options | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: ah ok | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other folks in the team please chime in | 18:54 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: sorry my inability to communicate very effectively on irc :-) | 18:54 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: if a plugin does not want the router insertion and just the fwaas extension for the fw resource - want it make it easy for them to do that | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i think you are very articulate, certainly more than me! :-) | 18:55 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: :-) | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i very much agree with that intent | 18:56 |
| vishwanathj | I might need to revisit the spec again to be an effective contributor | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: sure, please do :-) | 18:56 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: perhaps i can also follow up with a email to the fwaas folks | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: sure | 18:56 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: no worries - | 18:56 |
| SridarK | thats all from me | 18:56 |
| SridarK | badveli: sorry - did not want to lose my train of thought | 18:57 |
| badveli | no problem | 18:57 |
| badveli | as things are changing i am a bit not sure which way we are going | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: thanks for waiting | 18:58 |
| SridarK | badveli: i think if u look at the email from SumitNaiksatam on patch from Doug u should get a good idea | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: can you be more specific on what “things” and which “way” you are referring to? | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: apologies upfront if i might have confused you | 18:58 |
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| badveli | about the extension part | 18:59 |
| badveli | no problem since this is chaning | 18:59 |
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| badveli | my question is if i need to get the patch for service objects should i follow it/ should i wait for sridark patch | 19:00 |
| SridarK | badveli: no u are not dependent on my patch | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | right, they are not related, at least to the extent i know | 19:01 |
| badveli | thanks sridar, sumit. So now we can move the extension part to the fwaas repo, correct? | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: its already moved | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that was my email informing the team that it had moved | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the existing fwaas extension definition | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: i am still pretty fuzzy on how you are planning to implement your extension | 19:03 |
| badveli | thanks sumit, so i can start working my patch | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: if its not fwaas-specific, then the extension definition should not be in the neutron-fwaas repo | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the extensions we are discussing here are not fwaas-specific | 19:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | sorry i meant - they *are* fwaas specific | 19:04 |
| badveli | my problem would be if did not have the extension over fwaas, it would be tough to implement the reference impl | 19:05 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i guess badveli will need to push a patch to neutron for the extensions | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay | 19:06 |
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| badveli | yes sridar, sumit. looks like i need to push the a patch for neutron | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yeah, i meant to say, it depends on what is stated in the approved blueprint | 19:06 |
| badveli | as the reviewers wanted it to be generic | 19:06 |
| badveli | but would it make the reference implementation | 19:07 |
| badveli | the fwaas usage not so easy? | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: my thinking was that we had discussed these issues at design time (while proposing the spec) | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: perhaps good idea to check with Yi | 19:08 |
| SridarK | badveli: i think it should be ok - u can still implement the reference in fwaas - u will just need to manage 2 patches | 19:08 |
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| badveli | thanks sumit, sridark, yes we have discussed in getting two patches | 19:09 |
| badveli | ultimately we want to get the code in | 19:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: yeah | 19:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay anyone have any questions for badveli on this? | 19:11 |
| badveli | thanks sumit, as long as we are in agree | 19:11 |
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| SridarK | I am good | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: thanks for the update | 19:12 |
| badveli | thanks sumit | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service Objects | 19:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | service objects was a separate agenda item, but we munged it with the earlier topic | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just added the topic for anyone going through the logs | 19:13 |
| badveli | thanks sumit, let me start working on the patches | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: great | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS L3 agent refactoring/restructuring | 19:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: hi | 19:13 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything to discuss today on this? | 19:14 |
| pc_m | nothing on this front. | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ah okay | 19:14 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Waiting for FW insertion to complete first. | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: and again, many thanks for your continued patience | 19:14 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: np. I've got enough other balls to juggle. | 19:14 |
| pc_m | :) | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: _;_ | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | :-) | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS gate jobs | 19:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: since you are around | 19:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: you had taken an AI for yourself to send us some pointers | 19:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ;-) | 19:15 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yes... here you go... https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FunctionalGateSetup | 19:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah sweet! | 19:16 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Please let me know if you have any issues in following the steps (feel free to make corrections). | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: this is great info for everyone | 19:16 |
| pc_m | For VPN, I have a commit out for review to make the check queue non-voting. | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: can you share the link to that review? | 19:16 |
| pc_m | Once approved, and we use it for a bit, I'll do the last piece to make it voting. | 19:17 |
| SridarK | pc_m: this is great | 19:17 |
| pc_m | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152602/ | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think the timing is good to this since the extension definition has moved | 19:17 |
| pc_m | In the instructions, I put all the VPN review #s so you can see the actual diffs for VPN through the steps/ | 19:17 |
| pc_m | I'm going to send this out on the ML today. | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: sweet! | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will go through it | 19:18 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: Nikolay was working on the FWaaS Scenario tests - i have asked him if will be able to continue thru this and if so we can get some these tests in | 19:19 |
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| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: You'll likely want to get the experimental queue going, and the gate hooks, and then people can do commits with functional tests. | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: definitely | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: that is awesome | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: can you add me to the conversations as well? | 19:20 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes will do | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks | 19:21 |
| pc_m | For VPN, we had people hold off on committing functional test modules, until we got that in place. | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: that sounds logical | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: again thanks a bunch for documenting this | 19:21 |
| pc_m | Otherwise, you get functional modules upstreamed, and then when the tests are working, there are failures to deal with. | 19:22 |
| pc_m | np | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lots of people have done this in the past, you took the trouble of documenting it so others can use | 19:22 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in true spirit of community work! | 19:22 |
| pc_m | thanks. | 19:22 |
| SridarK | pc_m: this is like a book for "defense against the dark arts" :-) | 19:22 |
| pc_m | :) | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: lol | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | didnt i say you were very articulate! ;-P | 19:23 |
| SridarK | there is some deep magic in those parts | 19:23 |
| SridarK | :-) | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have only few mins left and need to cover vendor drivers | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Vendor Plugins/drivers | 19:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the freescale plugin was merged, yay! | 19:23 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 19:23 |
| SridarK | yes finally | 19:23 |
| SridarK | kudos to trinath for his persistence | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kudos to the author for his pereseverance | 19:24 |
| SridarK | :-) | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: on to your patch | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the last i checked it had comments from SridarK | 19:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | are those addressed? | 19:24 |
| vishwanathj | I have addressed comments from SridarK and pc_m | 19:24 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: yes thanks | 19:25 |
| pc_m | +1 | 19:25 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: i think we are good | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh, trinath put a -1 | 19:25 |
| vishwanathj | Trinath also commented early this morning, he is asking to upload README that has link to WIKI page and CI contacts....is that a hard requirement | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hmmm | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: no | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: but do it | 19:26 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: yes he got pulled for that | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: i mean your call | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its not a hard requirement | 19:26 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: so good to do it i think | 19:26 |
| vishwanathj | I dont have a WIKI page yet, what are the CI contact requirements...completely new to this | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: let us know when you do, and we can hopefully proceed quickly from there | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: wiki page is a 2 min job, so should not be an issue | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: you can update the wiki page independently | 19:27 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, pc_m, SridarK, will let you guys know once I upload a new patch set to get your votes | 19:27 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 19:27 |
| pc_m | roger | 19:27 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: u put ur email id or better yet some other colleague in ur company who will get spammed if ur CI job goes down | 19:27 |
| SridarK | :-) | 19:27 |
| vishwanathj | :) | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for the CI contact requirements i believe you would already have a brocade contact, no? | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: see this - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152229/ | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fyi | 19:28 |
| vishwanathj | I will check with natarajk, he was the contact earlier, maybe will keep as the contact :) | 19:28 |
| SridarK | :-) | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | check if that file has a brocade contact that can deal with your fwaas plugin | 19:28 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, thanks for the link, ok | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there are two other vendor drivers: | 19:29 |
| vishwanathj | SridarK, pc_m, SumitNaiksatam, appreciate your earlier reviews | 19:29 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes first patch is up | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mcafee: #link https://review.openstack.org/152093 | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | cisco: #link https://review.openstack.org/152282 | 19:29 |
| SridarK | need to refactor for vendor repo and there will be one more on agent/driver | 19:30 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, can brocade fwaas still make Kilo-2 by tomorrow | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: my earlier wish - “we can hopefully proceed quickly from there” | 19:30 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 19:30 |
| yamahata | regarding to mcafee, we're respining the patch and working on CI system. | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: great, thanks for joining, are you the point of contact for this? | 19:31 |
| yamahata | Yes. | 19:31 |
| vishwanathj | yamahata, hi | 19:31 |
| yamahata | vishwanathj: hi. | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: i see a differenent author on the patch | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay anyway | 19:31 |
| yamahata | Yalei is also contact, but he's located in China. | 19:31 |
| yamahata | It's midnight now in China. | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: and you are now in the bay area? | 19:32 |
| yamahata | SumitNaiksatam: Yeah at last. | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok good! :-) | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh, we are two mins over | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 19:32 |
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| SridarK | i have updated the FWaaS wiki with links to most of the patches | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything that we missed? | 19:32 |
| SridarK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FWaaS/KiloPlan | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: cool! | 19:32 |
| SridarK | pls check if i have messed up someone's patch id etc | 19:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: you will need to maintain it now :-) | 19:33 |
| SridarK | yamahata: i will add intel as well | 19:33 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: :-) | 19:33 |
| SridarK | no worries | 19:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and please note, that every feature has all the associated componentst that need to be completed | 19:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | like docs, tempest tests, CLI, horizon, etc | 19:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as captured in the table on the wiki | 19:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and, we as a team, need to plan to cover all those aspects | 19:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else anyone wants to add? | 19:34 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 19:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not just this, but in general? | 19:34 |
| vishwanathj | agreed | 19:34 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i am good | 19:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: thanks for posting the sequence diagrams | 19:35 |
| vishwanathj | will add more as I go along | 19:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: that is a great community contribution! | 19:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | from a fwaas perspective | 19:35 |
| SridarK | +1 | 19:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay thanks all for joining, sorry for going over | 19:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 19:35 |
| vishwanathj | it was a win win situation | 19:35 |
| SridarK | bye all thanks | 19:35 |
| badveli | bye | 19:35 |
| vishwanathj | bye | 19:36 |
| pc_m | bye! | 19:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeeting | 19:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: absolutely, glad you see it that way | 19:36 |
| yamahata | bye | 19:36 |
| vishwanathj | thanks | 19:36 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 22:00 |
| openstack | alaski: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 22:00 |
| dansmith | fail | 22:00 |
| alaski | SumitNaiksatam: can you #endmeeting please? | 22:00 |
| alaski | well, I guess we go off the record then | 22:01 |
| alaski | Anyone here for the cells meeting? | 22:01 |
| belmoreira | hi | 22:01 |
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| dansmith | o/ | 22:02 |
| alaski | small crowd today, but that's alright | 22:02 |
| alaski | topic: Test failure | 22:02 |
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| alaski | There have been some intermittent test failures in the tempest job | 22:03 |
| alaski | I spent some time trying to repro locally, but I'm not seeing them | 22:03 |
| melwitt | did we start the meetbot | 22:03 |
| alaski | melwitt: the last meeting didn't end properly :( | 22:03 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 4 22:03:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-02-04-18.30.html | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-02-04-18.30.txt | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-02-04-18.30.log.html | 22:03 |
| dansmith | IIRC, after 60 minutes, anyone can endmeeting it | 22:03 |
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| melwitt | oh cool | 22:04 |
| alaski | oh, good to know | 22:04 |
| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 22:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 4 22:04:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 22:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 22:04 |
| alaski | #topic Test failurs | 22:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Test failurs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 22:04 | |
| alaski | argh | 22:04 |
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| dansmith | use #undo | 22:04 |
| alaski | #undo | 22:04 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x33399d0> | 22:04 |
| dansmith | (if you want) | 22:04 |
| alaski | sweet | 22:05 |
| beagles | I thought it was pretty appropriate | 22:05 |
| alaski | #topic Test failures | 22:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Test failures (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 22:05 | |
| beagles | "failurs" | 22:05 |
| melwitt | heh | 22:05 |
| belmoreira | hehe | 22:05 |
| alaski | :) | 22:05 |
| alaski | last week bauzas exluded the last test we expect to fail on the check-tempest-dsvm-cells job | 22:06 |
| alaski | so in theory it should be passing, but isn't | 22:06 |
| alaski | the most common failure I've seen is an ec2 run idempotent job | 22:06 |
| alaski | which I can't get to fail locally | 22:06 |
| alaski | http://logs.openstack.org/04/153004/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-cells/dc1ee1f/console.html has an example | 22:07 |
| alaski | any eyes on that are appreciated so we can get the job voting at some point | 22:07 |
| melwitt | I'm also (still) running tests locally. since the instance object flavor field merged failures have changed a bit and I'm investigating | 22:08 |
| alaski | melwitt: great | 22:08 |
| alaski | any help on testing is much appreciated | 22:09 |
| alaski | #topic WIP | 22:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "WIP (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 22:09 | |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150381/ | 22:09 |
| alaski | There's a patch up for a quick PoC of multiple db support | 22:10 |
| belmoreira | unfortunately Dheeraj is not here to comment | 22:10 |
| alaski | that's alright | 22:10 |
| belmoreira | he continues to look how to allow DB api to connect to different DBs | 22:11 |
| alaski | dansmith added some good comments to the review | 22:11 |
| belmoreira | yes, just saw it. Thanks | 22:11 |
| alaski | he also mentioned passing info through the context for picking a db, which I think is a good idea | 22:11 |
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| dansmith | yeah, think that's how it's going to have to work, | 22:12 |
| dansmith | else we'll need some major refactoring of db api | 22:12 |
| alaski | agreed | 22:13 |
| belmoreira | ok | 22:13 |
| alaski | we can get into more specifics as work progresses, but that seems like the right mechanism to try | 22:13 |
| alaski | on my end I've been busy with other things that are wrapping up now, so I'm going to be coding furiously on this now | 22:14 |
| alaski | so there should be some more code to look at soon | 22:14 |
| alaski | (it's also why this agenda is light) | 22:15 |
| alaski | any other work to be called out? | 22:15 |
| dansmith | alaski: the flavor stuff merged, so I should try fixing the libvirt driver now, right? | 22:15 |
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| alaski | dansmith: yes, that would be excellent | 22:15 |
| dansmith | alaski: and, does that mean that the flavor stuff didn't break cells? | 22:16 |
| alaski | I think that ties into what melwitt has been investigating | 22:16 |
| dansmith | because that would be ... shocking | 22:16 |
| dansmith | ah, melwitt you wanna do that? | 22:16 |
| alaski | dansmith: it appears that it didn't | 22:16 |
| dansmith | alaski: shocking | 22:16 |
| alaski | dansmith: heh, we had faith in you | 22:16 |
| dansmith | glad someone did :) | 22:16 |
| alaski | but yes, the libvirt driver should be looked at in light of the flavors work | 22:17 |
| belmoreira | dansmith: can you point me to the flavor stuff? | 22:17 |
| alaski | it's likely that a previous workaround can now be removed | 22:17 |
| melwitt | alaski, dansmith: yes, it didn't make it worse from what I see so far, there's something different wrong now which I'm working out | 22:18 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135700/ | 22:18 |
| belmoreira | dansmith: thanks | 22:18 |
| dansmith | melwitt: boy, you really know how to compliment someone eh? | 22:18 |
| dansmith | :P | 22:18 |
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| alaski | does someone want an action item to look at things? | 22:19 |
| alaski | melwitt: I'm guessing you'll continue digging in? | 22:19 |
| melwitt | dansmith: lol. not what I meant, sorry. from my understanding, the flavor stuff should have made 60 failures disappear but it didn't, the failures are now different. I've *almost* got a handle on what it is that I hope to confirm later today, then I will be asking you for help :P | 22:20 |
| dansmith | melwitt: oh, really? I didn't expect it to fix any of those | 22:20 |
| melwitt | dansmith: it should have because the problem was that cell couldn't access the flavor that existed only at the top. with flavor staying with the instance, it should have had all the info it needed to succeed | 22:21 |
| alaski | it should mean that flavors don't need to exist in the cells db now | 22:21 |
| dansmith | melwitt: ah, but only if the code that is looking up the flavor is using the per-instance interface | 22:21 |
| dansmith | melwitt: so I think probably some more work is needed to convert those | 22:21 |
| melwitt | I also figured out why the flavor not found problem got fixed and then returned. it got fixed the first time by garyk passing flavor obj down to driver | 22:21 |
| dansmith | melwitt: so maybe tomorrow we can sync up on some of those failures and take a look at what changes might be easy? | 22:22 |
| melwitt | but then it broke again when I added a get flavor call to fill in extra_specs that he asked for | 22:22 |
| alaski | melwitt: ahh | 22:22 |
| melwitt | flavor get fails if you're in the non-top cell. | 22:22 |
| dansmith | this should fix that | 22:23 |
| dansmith | but we have to change the code to use the flavor on the instance instead of looking it up | 22:23 |
| alaski | yeah, the work from garyk shouldn't be necessary any longer | 22:23 |
| dansmith | nor the extra_specs thing | 22:23 |
| alaski | right | 22:23 |
| alaski | there are some lookups in ironic that can be removed as well | 22:23 |
| dansmith | cool | 22:23 |
| alaski | it sounds like melwitt has this in hand, with some possible assistance from dansmith | 22:24 |
| melwitt | s/possible/probable :) | 22:25 |
| dansmith | cool | 22:25 |
| dansmith | hah | 22:25 |
| alaski | so we'll move on | 22:25 |
| dansmith | I can offer probable assistance | 22:25 |
| alaski | melwitt: keep him busy | 22:25 |
| alaski | #topic open discussion | 22:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 22:25 | |
| melwitt | :) | 22:25 |
| alaski | There's still an open question of networking | 22:26 |
| alaski | I spoke with anteaya at the nova midcycle and she should be getting me in touch with someone from neutron | 22:26 |
| dansmith | meaning whether we support n-net, or how we organize cells and neutron? | 22:26 |
| alaski | the latter | 22:26 |
| dansmith | so, | 22:26 |
| dansmith | if we associate a neutron endpoint per cell, | 22:26 |
| belmoreira | alaski: that is great | 22:26 |
| dansmith | then they can be the same or one per cell, or one per few cells right? | 22:27 |
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| dansmith | if we're switching db/mq per cell, no reason we can't also switch the neutron being used | 22:27 |
| alaski | dansmith: right. but that assumes no longer using a global neutron | 22:27 |
| dansmith | and then in the migration code, we can initially just fail if the target node isn't the same neutron endpoint as us | 22:27 |
| alaski | or that it partitions similarly | 22:27 |
| dansmith | alaski: ah, I guess that might break some of our API stuff that expect a single pool of network resources | 22:28 |
| alaski | right, so we need some discussion on where best to address that | 22:28 |
| alaski | we work around it at rackspace, but I need to reach out and see what limitations that causes | 22:29 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 22:29 |
| belmoreira | this is the inital spec for nova net to neutron migration: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147723/1 | 22:30 |
| * tonyb is massively late. Did I get volenteered for anything? | 22:30 | |
| dansmith | tonyb: yeah, you're figuring out networking | 22:30 |
| alaski | ideally it would be nice if neutron partitioned along cell lines so we could do the multiple endpoint thing that you suggested dansmith | 22:30 |
| tonyb | dansmith: awesome. I can do that. | 22:30 |
| alaski | tonyb: yep, please report back in a week with the solution | 22:30 |
| dansmith | alaski: yeah, even if multiple partitions share a neutron | 22:30 |
| belmoreira | alaski: in fact I was thinking in the other way arround... having a central neutron | 22:31 |
| dansmith | that is likely going to require cells-like support in neutron I think, | 22:31 |
| dansmith | which is something we could wait a long time for | 22:31 |
| tonyb | I | 22:32 |
| tonyb | I'll talk to gus on the neutron side. It's something we should consider as part of the migration planning that's going on. | 22:33 |
| belmoreira | alaski: seems interesting... but I think that should be a long term goal... | 22:33 |
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| alaski | long term it might make sense. I'd like to get a sense of how the neutron group sees things | 22:33 |
| alaski | I have the feeling that we're going to influence how neutron is deployed to work with cells | 22:34 |
| alaski | but primarily I think we need to get everyone talking | 22:35 |
| tonyb | alaski, dansmith (and others) do you have time after the nova meeting tomorrow to talk to some neutron folk? (if I can arrange it) | 22:35 |
| alaski | which meeting time is it tomorrow? | 22:36 |
| dansmith | that's the morning one | 22:36 |
| dansmith | and yeah, I prolly could | 22:36 |
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| alaski | yeah, I'll be around then | 22:36 |
| tonyb | okay I'll see what I can do. | 22:36 |
| alaski | tonyb: thanks | 22:36 |
| alaski | any other topics for discussion? | 22:37 |
| dansmith | move to get back to work :) | 22:37 |
| alaski | sounds good to me | 22:37 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 22:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 4 22:38:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-02-04-22.04.html | 22:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-02-04-22.04.txt | 22:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-02-04-22.04.log.html | 22:38 |
| alaski | thanks everyone! | 22:38 |
| tonyb | Did you guys talk about testing befoer I arrived? | 22:38 |
| alaski | tonyb: we talked about the tempest job | 22:38 |
| tonyb | alaski: okay I'll read the minutes. | 22:39 |
| tonyb | if I have questions can I poke you? | 22:39 |
| tonyb | or is it stupid late for you? | 22:39 |
| alaski | tonyb: sure, I'm around for about 20 more minutes | 22:39 |
| tonyb | alaski: cool. | 22:39 |
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