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| jmanko | jobs | 04:42 |
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| NobodyCam | morning all | 05:00 |
| Haomeng | morning:) | 05:00 |
| jroll | good evening NobodyCam :D | 05:00 |
| naohirot | o/ | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 05:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 3 05:00:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 05:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 05:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 05:00 |
| wanyen | hi | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 05:00 |
| jmanko | good evening | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 05:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:01 | |
| NobodyCam | lol howdy y'all | 05:01 |
| JoshNang | o/ | 05:01 |
| jroll | \o | 05:01 |
| naohirot | o/ | 05:01 |
| Haomeng | o/ | 05:01 |
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| lintan__ | hi | 05:01 |
| wanyen | \o | 05:01 |
| jmanko | o/ | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | :) I may fall asleep just kick e if I do :) | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | great to see everyone here :) thank you :_ | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | announcements: | 05:02 |
| Haomeng | NobodyCam: :) | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | Devananda may be lurking, but I expect he's having fun in Grenoble. | 05:02 |
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| jroll | I hope he's sleeping :P | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | speaking of the Grenoble meet up is going on now! | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | lol its only 6 there :-p | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | hehehe | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | oh Question Does anyone know if there is a ether pad to follow along with them? | 05:03 |
| jroll | yep | 05:03 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-ironic-midcycle | 05:03 |
| jroll | (is for both meetups) | 05:03 |
| NobodyCam | awesome thank yoy jroll :) | 05:03 |
| NobodyCam | nice | 05:03 |
| NobodyCam | oh ya... there is also a meetup in san fran next week :) | 05:04 |
| jroll | anyone in this meeting attending the sf meetup next week? | 05:04 |
| NobodyCam | Thank you RackSpace for hosting | 05:04 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 05:05 |
| jroll | (besides josh and I) | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | \o/ | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 05:05 |
| jroll | all of the onmetal people will be there | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | :) awesome | 05:06 |
| NobodyCam | thats really it for my announcements anyone else have any? | 05:06 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: may want to announce kilo 2 is thursday | 05:06 |
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| jroll | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/kilo-2 | 05:06 |
| jroll | lots to review | 05:06 |
| NobodyCam | oh yes | 05:06 |
| wanyen | what features are targeted for kilo2? | 05:07 |
| jroll | see the link there, wanyen | 05:07 |
| NobodyCam | wayan all on that link jroll pasted | 05:07 |
| NobodyCam | #topic kilo-2 progress | 05:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kilo-2 progress (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:07 | |
| wanyen | none of the iLO specs are targeted? | 05:08 |
| jroll | wanyen: which ones can be code complete by thursday? | 05:08 |
| NobodyCam | amt is blocked? | 05:08 |
| wanyen | I would like to add iLO hw instrospection | 05:08 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: it's waiting on a spec update | 05:09 |
| jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141269/ | 05:09 |
| wanyen | and introspection mgmt i/f | 05:09 |
| jroll | wanyen: I see ilo introspection is targeted to kilo 3 | 05:10 |
| wanyen | the coding is pretty much done for ilo intropsepction | 05:10 |
| jroll | wanyen: no code is proposed for that as far as I can find | 05:10 |
| * jroll still looking | 05:10 | |
| wanyen | okay. let me discuss it with Nisha | 05:10 |
| jroll | oh, I see it now | 05:11 |
| NobodyCam | Ty jroll let see if we can unblock that amt by tomorrow | 05:11 |
| jroll | please have Nisha us the blueprint for the topic, e.g. bp/blueprint-name | 05:11 |
| jroll | wanyen: ^ | 05:11 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: +1 | 05:11 |
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| lintan__ | cool | 05:11 |
| * jroll will review tonight | 05:12 | |
| wanyen | jroll,, what;s about blueprint-name? | 05:12 |
| NobodyCam | looks like most are in need of code review | 05:12 |
| jroll | wanyen: code should be tagged with the blueprint name in the commit message and gerrit topic, or else it's hard to find | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | all love to get eyes one the code reviews for anything tagged for k-2 | 05:13 |
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| wanyen | jroll, I see. | 05:13 |
| jroll | I think we have enough review to do in the next 3 days, I'd rather not target anything more to k-2 | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: +1 | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | how are cleaning states looking? | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | bump to k-3? | 05:14 |
| jroll | yeah, need to bump that | 05:14 |
| jroll | JoshNang: ^ correct? | 05:14 |
| wanyen | iLO driver has quite a few specs therefore I would like to traget at least one for Kilo2 | 05:14 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: I just dont know if we'll have the review time | 05:14 |
| jroll | wanyen: kilo-2 is thursday, can any of those be coded, reviewed and merged by thursday? I kind of doubt it. if one happens to make it that's great, but I don't think it's priority | 05:15 |
| NobodyCam | there a lot up now | 05:15 |
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| wanyen | jroll, I think Niahs is pretty much done with coding | 05:16 |
| NobodyCam | anything eles on what we need for k-2? | 05:16 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: we can try | 05:16 |
| wanyen | Can we just target it if it makes to Kilo that's great otherwise wait for kilo3? | 05:16 |
| jroll | wanyen: all of nisha's introspection code is failing tests... I don't think it's done, we can try but it's bottom of the priority list | 05:16 |
| wanyen | NobodyCam; ty | 05:16 |
| JoshNang | jroll: yeah it's going to need a bump | 05:16 |
| jroll | cores are reviewing like crazy this week, don't overwork us too hard :P | 05:17 |
| JoshNang | i'm planning on actually writing code for cleaning tomorrow, but it won't land | 05:17 |
| jroll | JoshNang: cool, thanks | 05:17 |
| JoshNang | (land by thurs, that is) | 05:17 |
| NobodyCam | JoshNang: are you bumping? | 05:17 |
| jroll | I'm doing it now | 05:17 |
| JoshNang | kk | 05:17 |
| NobodyCam | ty | 05:17 |
| JoshNang | thanks! | 05:17 |
| NobodyCam | hehe | 05:17 |
| jroll | oh idk if I can | 05:18 |
| NobodyCam | anything else for k-2 | 05:18 |
| jroll | yeah, I can't bump that, I'll ping deva | 05:18 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving on... | 05:18 |
| JoshNang | jroll: i bumped it | 05:18 |
| jroll | oh, neat | 05:18 |
| NobodyCam | #topic SubTeam: status report (deprecated) | 05:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SubTeam: status report (deprecated) (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:19 | |
| NobodyCam | any questions, on the status we have? | 05:19 |
| jroll | "deprecated" :P | 05:19 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 05:19 |
| jroll | status report is ^ as always | 05:19 |
| NobodyCam | some folks are at hte meet up so we may be a little stat lite | 05:19 |
| NobodyCam | I see looks like we have a Proposal to make agent_ssh jobs vote.. w00t | 05:19 |
| jroll | yes! | 05:20 |
| jroll | I put that up today | 05:20 |
| jroll | clarkb said he was cool with it in terms of gate resources and whatnot | 05:20 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: off the top of your head you know the current pass / fail %'s | 05:20 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: no, but anecdotally it's just as stable as the pxe_ssh job | 05:20 |
| NobodyCam | then I think its something we need | 05:21 |
| jroll | I haven't seen a not-real failure in a while afaik | 05:21 |
| jroll | yep | 05:21 |
| jroll | I saw a patch that actually broke it today, so decided to put that up | 05:21 |
| NobodyCam | thoughts form other folk? | 05:21 |
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| NobodyCam | I take that as a do it | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 05:22 |
| JoshNang | +1! | 05:22 |
| jroll | ++ | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: you have a link for the review? | 05:22 |
| jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152340/ | 05:23 |
| NobodyCam | awesome :) | 05:23 |
| NobodyCam | # info agent_ssh to be voting in gate when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152340/ lands | 05:24 |
| jroll | did you want #info? | 05:24 |
| jroll | :) | 05:24 |
| NobodyCam | doh | 05:24 |
| NobodyCam | #info agent_ssh to be voting in gate when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152340/ lands | 05:25 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving on | 05:25 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Discuss per driver sensor meters spec | 05:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss per driver sensor meters spec (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:25 | |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: thats you | 05:25 |
| wanyen | Jim and myself would like to discuss “Support per driver sensor meters” spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130074/. This spec proposes 3 work items. It looks to me that all reviewers agreed to the 1st two proposed work items, namely conductor to remove all ipmi assumptions and to allow drivers to collect sensors for un-deployed nodes. However, there seems to be different opinions on whether to have conductor to | 05:25 |
| jroll | wanyen: you cut off at "different opinions on whether to have conductor to" | 05:26 |
| wanyen | However, there seems to be different opinions on whether to have conductor to do meter sensor and resource id naming needed for the targeted metering systems. We would like to discuss this proposed work item and hopefully get guidance/resolution on this. Jim is the author of the spec so I will hand the discussion over to Jim. | 05:26 |
| jroll | do we have a link to the spec? | 05:26 |
| wanyen | jmanko, do you want to give more details? | 05:26 |
| wanyen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130074/ | 05:26 |
| jmanko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127378/ | 05:26 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130074/ | 05:26 |
| NobodyCam | ??? | 05:27 |
| jmanko | Ok, current spec outlines conductor doing meter name transformation instead of ceilomter plugin | 05:27 |
| jmanko | This enables a single generic plugin in ceilometer instead of a per sensor provider plugin. | 05:28 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: jmanko which of the two specs are we looking at? | 05:29 |
| jroll | what's the argument for the conductor not doing meter name things? | 05:29 |
| jroll | transformation, I guess | 05:29 |
| jroll | what does "meter name transformation" entail, anyway? | 05:29 |
| wanyen | It's the per driver sensor meter spec 133074 | 05:29 |
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| jmanko | if conductor supports multiple metering systems, more code in the conductor instead of inside metering system plugins | 05:30 |
| wanyen | sorry 130074 | 05:30 |
| jmanko | character string transformation to valid metering system characters | 05:30 |
| jmanko | and metering system name composition | 05:31 |
| jmanko | a small amount of code from my perperspective | 05:31 |
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| jroll | hm, so the debate is 1) conductor builds the sensor names vs 2) sensor plugin (e.g. ceilometer) builds the sensor names? | 05:32 |
| jmanko | pretty much, | 05:32 |
| NobodyCam | reading Chris Dent's comments on rev 6 now | 05:32 |
| jroll | "sensor names" being the keys in the key/value structure of the data, I guess | 05:33 |
| jroll | I don't see how the conductor can do it generically for many sensor providers, since there may be different valid characters/names/etc | 05:33 |
| jroll | e.g. / and . have meaning to graphite (if we were to make a graphite plugin) | 05:34 |
| jroll | (idk if those have special meaning in ceilometer) | 05:34 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: Thats where I'm leaning | 05:34 |
| NobodyCam | conductor should not have to account for every thing. thats what plugins are for really | 05:35 |
| jroll | I mean, the conductor could do normalization of the sensor name, but the plugins will have to do other things specific to that provider | 05:35 |
| jroll | like conductor could normalize "cpu temperature" to "cpu_temperature" | 05:35 |
| jmanko | There isn't so much special meaning as there is inability to use certain characters in keys meter names. | 05:35 |
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| jmanko | jroll: righ | 05:35 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: +1, should depends on sensor providers to handle the naming logic | 05:36 |
| jroll | but only the ceilometer plugin can know if _ is valid | 05:36 |
| jmanko | simple transformation for acceptable characters | 05:36 |
| jmanko | acceptable metering system character set. | 05:36 |
| jmanko | for both keys and meter name strings | 05:37 |
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| jmanko | jroll: The plugin can 100% generic (provider independent) | 05:38 |
| wanyen | Chris dent on the other hand like the idea of having a generic ccilometer plug-in. | 05:38 |
| jroll | no, chris dent wants a completely generic sensor emitter | 05:39 |
| jroll | however different sensor consumers will have different APIs, formats, etc | 05:39 |
| wanyen | with a generic celiometer plug-in then producer will need to do the naming xformation | 05:39 |
| jmanko | It's a pain to coordinate release of ironic with appropriate ceilometer plugin | 05:39 |
| jroll | wait, define "ceilometer plugin" for me? | 05:40 |
| jroll | I feel like you're not talking about what I think you're talking about | 05:40 |
| jmanko | There is an IPMI sensor plugin in ceilometer today that creates meters for sensors | 05:40 |
| jmanko | The plugin assumes the producer of the sensors it receives are from an ipmi driver | 05:41 |
| jroll | oh. | 05:41 |
| NobodyCam | oh | 05:41 |
| jroll | I assumed ceilometer just took a key/value and stored it | 05:41 |
| jroll | sigh, why does ceilometer care if the metrics are from an ipmi thing | 05:42 |
| jmanko | no no no. Ceilometer morphs sensor data into meter names | 05:42 |
| jmanko | That is the issue! Ceilometer shouldn't care who produced them. | 05:42 |
| NobodyCam | jmanko: ya I see yourpoint | 05:42 |
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| jroll | so if we send e.g. hardware.current, it won't care? | 05:43 |
| jroll | (as opposed to hardware.ipmi.current) | 05:43 |
| jmanko | yes if ironic creates the name | 05:43 |
| jmanko | Today, the ceil plugin creates the name hardware.ipmi.current | 05:44 |
| jroll | and the goal here is to send sensor data from non-ipmi drivers, and have the names normalized, correct? | 05:44 |
| jroll | so that ipmi sensors and ilo sensors look the same? | 05:44 |
| Haomeng|2 | we defined the ipmi-independent data model for sensor data which send out via notification bus - https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/base.py#L567 | 05:44 |
| Haomeng|2 | current, fan, are the sensor types | 05:44 |
| jmanko | yes, but if you need a new one like "health" you have change the ceilometer plugin today. | 05:45 |
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| jroll | yeah, that's horrible | 05:46 |
| jroll | where's the code that sends things to ceilometer? | 05:46 |
| Haomeng|2 | jmanko: that is because ceilometer hardcode the sensor types I think | 05:46 |
| jmanko | jroll: in the conductor | 05:46 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: this is the base method interface - https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/base.py#L567 | 05:46 |
| jmanko | Haomeng: Yea, its the way the Ceilomter plugin is implemented | 05:47 |
| jroll | ok yeah, I hate this | 05:47 |
| jroll | does anyone actually run ceilometer in production? | 05:47 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: and this one - https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/conductor/manager.py#L1139 | 05:47 |
| jroll | Haomeng|2: right, I've found it | 05:47 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: :) | 05:48 |
| jroll | the word 'ipmi' should never appear in ironic.conductor.manager | 05:48 |
| jroll | that seems like a huge violation of concerns to me | 05:48 |
| jroll | I'm +1000000000 on making this generic | 05:48 |
| jmanko | I've used ceilometer (not in production) and tried to write code which makes use of sensors. It's not straightforward | 05:48 |
| jroll | probably the way of this spec | 05:48 |
| Haomeng|2 | yes, but the event type is requried for ceilometer, they suggest to define - 'event_type': 'hardware.ipmi.metrics.update' | 05:48 |
| jmanko | You get rid of that and have a single sensor event type | 05:49 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: so it is ceilometer special | 05:49 |
| jroll | the other way to deal with this is to add e.g. hardware.ilo.metrics.update to ceilometer | 05:49 |
| jroll | and hardware.drac.metrics.update | 05:49 |
| jroll | and so on and so on | 05:49 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: yes, this is issue | 05:49 |
| jroll | and that seems like a huge violation of separation of concerns to me | 05:50 |
| NobodyCam | * ten minutes* | 05:50 |
| jmanko | I wanted this generic so I could send sensor data to other metering systems. I was able to easily use Monasca | 05:50 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: we can define as common name such as 'hardware.metrics.update' | 05:50 |
| jroll | +1 | 05:50 |
| jroll | jmanko: +1000 | 05:50 |
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| Haomeng|2 | jroll: but not sure if ceilometer can handle such common name | 05:50 |
| jroll | we shouldn't hard depend on ceilometer, this should be pluggable | 05:50 |
| jroll | Haomeng|2: then we drop support for ceilometer, that's absurd if they can't handle it | 05:51 |
| jroll | (or we fix ceilometer) | 05:51 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: ++ for fix | 05:51 |
| jroll | to be clear, it won't be me fixing it :) | 05:51 |
| Haomeng|2 | jroll: ++ | 05:51 |
| jroll | jmanko: I think I like the direction of this spec | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | ok so did I get yes to making it more generic? | 05:52 |
| jroll | it's a yes from me | 05:52 |
| jmanko | and from me | 05:52 |
| wanyen | ++ | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: ?? | 05:52 |
| naohirot | +1 from irmc's point of view | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | the I's have it | 05:52 |
| jroll | jmanko: I'm going to promise to do a proper review on this spec, with more research etc | 05:53 |
| jmanko | cool | 05:53 |
| jroll | jmanko: please ping me if I don't review it this week and yell at me :) | 05:53 |
| wanyen | jroll, ty | 05:53 |
| NobodyCam | thank you wanyen and jmanko | 05:53 |
| jmanko | jroll: Great :) | 05:53 |
| NobodyCam | and everyone for there input | 05:53 |
| jmanko | thank you | 05:53 |
| NobodyCam | ok inthe last few minutes | 05:53 |
| jroll | cool, anything else on this topic? | 05:53 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Open Discussion | 05:53 |
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| NobodyCam | doh | 05:54 |
| jroll | should we #undo and have an #agreed there | 05:54 |
| jroll | ? | 05:54 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Discuss per driver sensor meters spec | 05:54 |
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| jroll | lol | 05:54 |
| Haomeng|2 | I raised one bp for our ironic-discovery - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic-discoverd/+spec/in-band-ipmi-auto-configuration, welcome your comments if this is good idea:) | 05:54 |
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| wanyen | ilo driver stillhave quite a few specs taht needs review and approval, so please review them, ty | 05:55 |
| jroll | Haomeng|2: neat idea | 05:55 |
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| NobodyCam | #agreed to make ironic more handle sensor data in a more generic way | 05:55 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Open Discussion | 05:56 |
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| Haomeng|2 | jroll: :) | 05:56 |
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| jroll | open discussion: I need sleep | 05:56 |
| jmanko | same here | 05:56 |
| NobodyCam | lol yep | 05:57 |
| NobodyCam | if theres nothing more we can end the meeting | 05:57 |
| jroll | I've got nothing | 05:57 |
| NobodyCam | awesome meeting everyone one thank you | 05:57 |
| Haomeng|2 | NobodyCam: thank you:) | 05:57 |
| wanyen | ty | 05:57 |
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| jroll | thanks for chairing, NobodyCam! :) | 05:57 |
| NobodyCam | see ya all tomorrow | 05:57 |
| Haomeng|2 | NobodyCam: good night! | 05:57 |
| jmanko | thanks | 05:57 |
| lintan__ | bye thank you | 05:57 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 05:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 3 05:57:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:57 |
| jroll | night everyone | 05:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-02-03-05.00.html | 05:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-02-03-05.00.txt | 05:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-02-03-05.00.log.html | 05:57 |
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| NobodyCam | :0 | 05:58 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all! | 17:02 |
| arosen1 | Hiya! | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 3 17:02:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs | Let's get started with status updates. | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | #topic status | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs | People with high priority blueprints should go first. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: want to get us started? | 17:03 |
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| cloudtoa_ | I am working on the control-bus now, should have something submitted in the next couple of days (code). | 17:03 |
| thinrichs | Nice. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs | Anything you need from us? | 17:04 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Not at this time. | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | cloudtoa_: sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it on gerrit :) | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | Okay. So that will probably get in close to kilo2 (which is sometime this week). | 17:05 |
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| thinrichs | zhipeng: since it's late for you, want to go next so you can take off? | 17:05 |
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| thinrichs | Maybe he left himself logged in. We'll come back. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | madhumohan: how are the modals coming? | 17:07 |
| madhumohan | rebase is giving me a common error for all tests in test_congress.py: Parse Failure... | 17:09 |
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| arosen1 | madhumohan: is the patch posted on gerrit? | 17:09 |
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| madhumohan | I just sent a snippet of the error log.... I guess, there should be a small change i have missed in the test setUp() that is causing this error. | 17:10 |
| madhumohan | arosen1: yes... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144922/ | 17:10 |
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| arosen1 | madhumohan: where'd you send the snipit of the error log? I'm sure we can help you in #congress after the meeting with debugging it. | 17:12 |
| thinrichs | Looks like a merge problem. | 17:12 |
| thinrichs | I'd fix the pep8 errors (where we're creating a uuid). | 17:13 |
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| thinrichs | A failure there will cause nearly every test to fail. | 17:13 |
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| thinrichs | There has been a lot of churn in the policy engine recently. | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | I'm happy to help if you like—just let me know. | 17:14 |
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| thinrichs | madhumohan: anything else? | 17:16 |
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| thinrichs | zhipeng_: here for Congress? | 17:18 |
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| zhipeng_ | hey | 17:18 |
| JimJunXu | Hi | 17:18 |
| zhipeng_ | yes just finished another meeting | 17:18 |
| thinrichs | JimJunXu: hi! | 17:18 |
| thinrichs | zhipeng_: how's the policy trigger work going? | 17:19 |
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| zhipeng_ | I'm still working on it, and have to deal with some company upload issue | 17:19 |
| zhipeng_ | but I will try to upload the first version before the deadline | 17:19 |
| zhipeng_ | if I could sort that all out | 17:19 |
| arosen1 | zhipeng upload issues as in there is a firewall in the way or getting permission to contribute? | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | zhipeng_: sounds good. Don't hesitate to ask for help. | 17:20 |
| zhipeng_ | yes permission issue, mostly procedure stuff I need to follow | 17:20 |
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| zhipeng_ | yes you guys are very nice | 17:20 |
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| zhipeng_ | :) | 17:21 |
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| thinrichs | madhumohan: do you know how srangare is doing on the aggregates? | 17:22 |
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| thinrichs | Perhaps he stepped away. | 17:24 |
| thinrichs | jwy: how's your progress going? | 17:24 |
| thinrichs | On the horizon UI for policy? | 17:24 |
| jwy | met with JimJunXu yesterday to discuss having a graphical representation of policies and converting those to datalog | 17:25 |
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| jwy | there were some unresolved issues still, as with the form builder, such as how to represent joins | 17:26 |
| jwy | i think they are still interested in exploring this UI more, though, as a way to abstract policies for the user more than the form builder would | 17:27 |
| jwy | JimJunXu: do you want to comment? | 17:27 |
| JimJunXu | This is related to the current BP - 'Policy creation in Horizon'. | 17:27 |
| JimJunXu | Need a solid congress example and to see what can be done by following the current approach. | 17:28 |
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| JimJunXu | the major issue in the UI can be representing the 'join' and 'not allow/error' directives | 17:28 |
| JimJunXu | we started to look into it. | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | I've said this before, but it's worth repeating.... | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | The UI is super important here. People are always skeptical that operators/devs/etc. will be able to write policy. | 17:31 |
| thinrichs | So we need to make that as easy as possible. | 17:31 |
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| thinrichs | Let us know if there's anything we can do to help. | 17:31 |
| jwy | thinrichs (or anyone else, really): could you give several example policies that cover various data sources to see how that would translate to a graphical rep? | 17:31 |
| jwy | and various combinations of joins and "not"s | 17:32 |
| thinrichs | I was looking to find the link to our use case document. | 17:33 |
| thinrichs | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExDmT06vDZjzOPePYBqojMRfXodvsk0R8nRkX-zrkSw/edit#heading=h.fbota2qx0jad | 17:33 |
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| thinrichs | Perhaps it is time to update that so people have a handful of worked out policy examples. | 17:33 |
| cloudtoa_ | So some of our customers want to use Congress just as a simple "state-checker." For instance, if something is configured in "x" (like a VLAN on a port) then that VLAN should exist on that port. So a data source driver examines config, and another examines corresponding state. Like a verifier that alerts you when something doesn't work. | 17:34 |
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| thinrichs | Makes sense to me. | 17:34 |
| cloudtoa_ | These should be relatively simple policies to write and the value and purpose should be clear to an operator. | 17:34 |
| cloudtoa_ | It might be a good starting point in the UI... | 17:34 |
| cloudtoa_ | If there is something shaky in OpenStack now that is tedious to check, that could be a good nexus for us. | 17:35 |
| JimJunXu | yes, that is one good case. | 17:35 |
| jwy | good info, thanks | 17:35 |
| thinrichs | Let's try to add that to the use case doc. | 17:36 |
| thinrichs | If we used the vxlan example, we're checking neutron for the config, right? | 17:37 |
| cloudtoa_ | Roger.. will add after meeting. | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | What are we checking for the actual state. | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | ? | 17:37 |
| arosen1 | yup sounds like it - the vlan value. | 17:37 |
| arosen1 | on the switch vs expected from the cloud operator. | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | Anyway—if you're going to add it to the doc we'll see what example you come up with, cloudtoa_. | 17:38 |
| alexsyip | I think the question is: which part of the system knows if a vlan exists on a particular port. | 17:38 |
| arosen1 | I'd say probably the datasource driver that talks to what ever knows about vlans. | 17:38 |
| cloudtoa_ | Well, the VLAN thing is just an example. Surely there are other things as well. A VM is deployed but something goes wonky with some other component... it's a complex dist system, there has to be numerous examples... | 17:39 |
| alexsyip | So which part of the system knows about vlans ? | 17:39 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Nova can tell you the segment ID associated with a virtual network... that would be source 1. | 17:40 |
| cloudtoa_ | Then another source would tell you where hosts are connected in the network (via LLDP harvesting, I imagine). | 17:40 |
| cloudtoa_ | Then another source could tell you what is configured on the switch access-port associated with that host. | 17:41 |
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| thinrichs | Sounds good. I'm looking forward to reading more in the doc. | 17:42 |
| thinrichs | Let's move on and finish up status updates. | 17:42 |
| thinrichs | stevenld: do you have anything to report? | 17:42 |
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| stevenldt | yes. I'd like to update on murano-driver | 17:42 |
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| stevenldt | I submitted the code for review for the driver, however I'm being blocked by the issue where Congress is in the tracked projects and python-muranoclient is not in global_requirements | 17:44 |
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| thinrichs | stevenldt: go ahead and add python-muranoclient to the global requirements. | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | It's a .txt file, and you're free to edit it as you see fit. | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | You're talking about requirements.txt, right? | 17:45 |
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| thinrichs | That's where we typically add the python clients we are using. | 17:45 |
| stevenldt | would adding python-muranoclient to global requirements require approval from Murano team? | 17:45 |
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| stevenldt | as well add the python clients to global requirements as we need? | 17:46 |
| thinrichs | So you're saying the OpenStack blessed list of possible requirements? | 17:46 |
| arosen1 | whoops sorry i got disconnected. I'm not sure how much of my stuff posted. | 17:46 |
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| stevenldt | as well == or we | 17:46 |
| arosen1 | stevenldt: i'm running into that same issue for the cloudfoundry client. Is it possible to have the driver and test work in the tree with just mock? | 17:47 |
| arosen1 | I think that should work. This way we don't have to have these clients in the requirements.txt file for now. | 17:47 |
| arosen1 | I don't think these stackforge clients are going to be allowed in global requirements anytime soon. At least from how that email on the list sounded. | 17:48 |
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| stevenldt | arosen1: so you are saying that I should replace the whole muranoclient with a mock? | 17:49 |
| kitho | Are there any driver test that is using mock now ? | 17:49 |
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| arosen2 | sorry about that got disconnected again :( | 17:50 |
| arosen2 | stevenldt: i'm running into that same issue for the cloudfoundry client. Is it possible to have the driver and test work in the tree with just mock? | 17:50 |
| arosen2 | I think that should work. This way we don't have to have these clients in the requirements.txt file for now | 17:50 |
| arosen2 | I don't think these stackforge clients are going to be allowed in global requirements anytime soon. At least from how that email on the list sounded. | 17:50 |
| alexsyip | What happens if we add the murano client to our requirements.txt ? | 17:50 |
| alexsyip | Does something fail ? | 17:50 |
| arosen2 | yup | 17:51 |
| stevenldt | alexsyip: yes, the tempest fails | 17:51 |
| alexsyip | what fails ? | 17:51 |
| alexsyip | Why does tempest fail ? | 17:51 |
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| arosen2 | there is a test to ensure requirements.txt makes the reqirement repo | 17:51 |
| arosen2 | devstack will fail too. | 17:51 |
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| alexsyip | Why does openstack require that our requirements.txt is a subset of the global requirements.txt ? | 17:52 |
| arosen2 | stevenldt: this way you can run openstack on the same box and not have to worry about using virtual env | 17:52 |
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| arosen2 | it ensures all the libs use the same python versions | 17:52 |
| alexsyip | we can’t be the first project to run into this. | 17:53 |
| alexsyip | How do other projects deal with this issue? | 17:53 |
| arosen2 | I think there are 3 options | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | Clearly we need to work out what to do when we want to integrate with a system not blessed by OS. | 17:54 |
| arosen2 | 1) remove congress from a being an openstack tracked project | 17:54 |
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| arosen2 | right now jenkins posts patches for us keeping our requirements files in sync with global requirements | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | (Running short on time. Still need to talk about hackathon.) | 17:55 |
| arosen2 | 2) figure out a way to get the tests to work with out adding this to the requirements file. | 17:55 |
| arosen2 | k we can sort this out later. We'll need to figure something out for the cloudfoundry driver anyways. | 17:55 |
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| arosen2 | I'll sync up with stevenldt later about this. | 17:55 |
| alexsyip | ok | 17:55 |
| alexsyip | sounds good | 17:55 |
| stevenldt | sure. I'll ask more in #congress | 17:55 |
| thinrichs | It's definitely worth discussing. In the long term we need a solution. Follow up in #congress. | 17:56 |
| thinrichs | sarob: how's the hackathon going? | 17:56 |
| thinrichs | hackathon *planning* going? | 17:56 |
| thinrichs | sarob: you there? | 17:57 |
| sarob | yup | 17:58 |
| sarob | i have a room reserved | 17:58 |
| sarob | for both days | 17:58 |
| arosen2 | what are the date we are targetting again? | 17:58 |
| arosen2 | dates* | 17:58 |
| sarob | this thurs and friday | 17:58 |
| arosen2 | ah okay. | 17:58 |
| thinrichs | Have we confirmed people working on high-priority blueprints can attend? | 17:59 |
| sarob | no one has confirmed yet | 17:59 |
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| sarob | :( | 17:59 |
| sarob | maybes | 17:59 |
| sarob | im asking for 3-4 hour blocks | 18:00 |
| sarob | then run over irc and hangout | 18:00 |
| sarob | i will forward once i have any confirmations | 18:00 |
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| sarob | thats all | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | Let's follow up on the ML. We want to make sure we have a good number of people who can attend. | 18:00 |
| sarob | other than clarizen fun :) | 18:00 |
| sarob | ML, right on | 18:01 |
| thinrichs | Anyone working on Congress. | 18:01 |
| thinrichs | Out of time. (Over-time, actually.) Let's follow up on the ML and #congress. | 18:01 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 18:01 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
| sarob | roger | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 3 18:01:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-03-17.02.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-03-17.02.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-03-17.02.log.html | 18:01 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 3 19:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | if you're here for the SDK meeting, say hi | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | Brian Curtin | 19:00 |
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| terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:01 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:01 |
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| briancurtin | #topic Conversations at Cinder meetup, Cinder v2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150979/ | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Conversations at Cinder meetup, Cinder v2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150979/ (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:02 | |
| briancurtin | so last week i was at the cinder mid-cycle meetup for the day and mike perez gave me the floor for a while. all in all it was an hour-long talk on where we're at, what we do, etc. i think of the ~25 people in the room we had active participation from 12 people | 19:03 |
| etoews | what's mike's nick? | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | thingee | 19:03 |
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| stevelle | is there an etherpad of notes from that session? | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | it was all really good. a handful had heard about the project already, but after explaining the goals and the status they were really interested. in teh end i had a few people interested in contributing and about an hour after the talk i had a guy submit a simple proxy that could list volumes (a dupe of my own work, but good that he just started hacking | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | right away) | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | stevelle: i dont think anyone took notes on that particular part as it was less about their roadmap for kilo and just getting them to think about it, but i'll look | 19:05 |
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| briancurtin | anyway, once i have the proxy part of that cinder.v2 part done, which i just got started, im going to bring in walt boring and john griffith to take a look at it. after that im going to hack out the minimal compute proxy part to integrate the two for a sample app that can show attaching volumes or something | 19:05 |
| terrylhowe | sounds like a good sample ap | 19:06 |
| stevelle | will need to incorporate a bit of glance for the boot image I presume? | 19:07 |
| etoews | a bit future looking but how should we go about getting the project teams to take ownership of development in the sdk? | 19:08 |
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| briancurtin | stevelle: probably. i dont actually know all of the moving parts in play there, but i also want glance for another thing, so that's also on the list | 19:08 |
| etoews | while bootstraping the project we'll need to do a fair amount ourselves but that's not sustainable. | 19:08 |
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| etoews | i'm fine tabling that topic. just something to think about. | 19:09 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: not sure, talked about it briefly with cinder and their thought was just having one or two people interested in the project to spend some time looking at it and get to know the cinder parts, then see where it goes | 19:09 |
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| etoews | ya. and i think at some point soonish we can start being more vocal about it on the openstack-dev ml. | 19:10 |
| stevelle | for glance we should have enough if we get the the v2 image proxy merged (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147314/) | 19:10 |
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| etoews | "hi all, support for glance has been added, next week is cinder." etc. | 19:10 |
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| briancurtin | stevelle: sort of tangent but i think we should have built-out proxies like object_store that can do more than be session managers, but that's a start | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | #topic Thoughts on doc work in progress? http://briancurtin.com/doc_reorg/ | 19:11 |
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| briancurtin | part of that doc work was driven by etoews starting to work on the project, but also as other projects get involved | 19:12 |
| etoews | so far it's been great | 19:13 |
| etoews | i +1'd the reorg | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | i dont want it to be one huge change so i think im going to add another guide on building out a proxy, and keep expanding user-guide stuff. ideally teh whole thing acts like a cookbook | 19:13 |
| etoews | and i've literally been working through the contrib docs | 19:13 |
| etoews | i can provide a more complete review soon | 19:13 |
| etoews | haven't touched the user stuff yet | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | cool, i think you're the most likely to have in depth review since you're actually going through it. anyone else? | 19:14 |
| stevelle | +1 for not expanding the current change | 19:14 |
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| stevelle | easier to review in parts | 19:14 |
| stevelle | I have it queued for review tomorrow | 19:14 |
| terrylhowe | the contributor docs I went over so far looked good, but I need more time to read it all | 19:14 |
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| briancurtin | #topic Resource.list consistency (pagination disabled, or not supported but still returning lists) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147686/ | 19:15 |
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| etoews | wait. one more thing on the docs | 19:16 |
| briancurtin | go for it | 19:16 |
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| etoews | does gerrit spit out a rendered version of each patch set? | 19:16 |
| etoews | i know it can do this for docs.openstack.org | 19:16 |
| briancurtin | i guess we could make it do that, but it doesn't currently | 19:17 |
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| briancurtin | i dont know if we get that luxury being a stackforge project or what the deal is behind that. currently the official docs are hosted at http://python-openstacksdk.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 19:18 |
| etoews | maybe annegentle knows... | 19:18 |
| briancurtin | i just claimed that name and point them at github master | 19:18 |
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| stevelle | I'm just running sphinx to review formatting at this point | 19:19 |
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| terrylhowe | me too | 19:19 |
| etoews | python setup.py build_sphinx | 19:19 |
| etoews | correct? | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | i'll look around and see what the deal is. we do have a doc builder so they are being built per changeset | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i just do "tox -e docs" | 19:20 |
| stevelle | etoews: yes | 19:20 |
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| etoews | heh. 2 different answers. | 19:20 |
| stevelle | both work | 19:20 |
| etoews | do they do the same thing? | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | yeah, tox runs that | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | so if you're in a proper virtualenv you're just doing the manual version | 19:20 |
| etoews | alright. i'll do that for now. | 19:21 |
| etoews | let's move on | 19:21 |
| briancurtin | Britt isn't here, but I'll see if I can get him to run that again. now that the page/list changes are in, that change lets us Resource.list anything that is a list, whether or not it supports pagination, so it's a consistent action across the board | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | however, one thing it loses is an optimization i was able to put in where it does an early exit when you get back fewer items than your requested limit. i dont know how often people would do that, but that's the only downside of the change i saw | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | we can still make that happen, but it'll require making things a bit more complex. in the interests of actually making Resource.list work i just ripped that stuff out. adding it back in to work would require an extra special case on top of the special casing of this being the first response | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | so it's possible but maybe not worth it to add it back in | 19:24 |
| terrylhowe | the last_response == response seems like it could be expensive on large pages | 19:26 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: yeah that's one thing i want to check out. i have a container in rackspace cloud files with ~6k objects that would show how this turns out. i'll bring that auth change over and try it out and see what it does | 19:28 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: the change is unfortunately quite naive in that it works against devstack, which includes trivially small amounts of data to test against | 19:29 |
| etoews | it worked in devstack | 19:30 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: actually, now that i think about this, we might have to have services override list because this might just be too general | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | worked not works :) | 19:30 |
| briancurtin | the whole thing started because network supports pagination but disables it (and you can't know discover that it's disabled), and my optimization thing came from the way object_store works, so they don't work together well and both lose | 19:31 |
| briancurtin | i just workflow-1 | 19:32 |
| terrylhowe | yeh briancurtin too much generalization might just get confusing | 19:32 |
| briancurtin | will take it back to the drawing board and maybe only apply that type of thing where really really needed | 19:32 |
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| terrylhowe | I was thinking at one time about having something like “service preferences” to help with that kind of thing | 19:33 |
| etoews | have to ask, do you know the rationale behind making pagination disableable in neutron? | 19:34 |
| briancurtin | yeah i remember we talked about that, but i think it would then require that we have pagination turned off unless you say you want it, which might be too heavy handed | 19:34 |
| briancurtin | etoews: no clue, i just know in the docs it says it accepts it but is configurable to be off. it seems to be off in devstack since i've requested pages of something with a limit of 1 and just got back all 4 things i had (i think i was trying to list /networks) | 19:35 |
| terrylhowe | everyone should support pagination, but we have to deal with some services not like it or not I think | 19:35 |
| etoews | i'm fine with services either having it or not having it but the idea of having it but making it disableable is bizarre to me. | 19:36 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: this might be something we can work out in the proxy level. if object_store supports pagination we can do the iterator containers() call through list. if network /networks doesn't support pagination, we can still call it networks() in the proxy levl but just call get() under the hood, which still gives a list | 19:36 |
| etoews | get gives a list? | 19:37 |
| etoews | oh. get() pretty much equals GET right? | 19:38 |
| briancurtin | yeah | 19:38 |
| terrylhowe | well, get() has an id and the GET in list does not | 19:39 |
| etoews | this is on Resource right? | 19:39 |
| briancurtin | we can still call Resource.get() with no ID and have the full list of /networks returned to us. or at least that's what i think i was doing | 19:40 |
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| briancurtin | that's why Resource.list() on /networks is an infinite loop, since it calls GET with no ID | 19:40 |
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| etoews | i think i just need to get more familiar with all of this. i'll ask better questions then. | 19:41 |
| terrylhowe | briancurtin: proxy level or resource level. Seems like resource level would be better. there are only 2 resources in object store | 19:41 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i think proxy. let resources do what they need to do. teh network resource works fine with just a get(), but no list(), but its get() does return a list object, so on top of that we can make it function the same as containers.list() which under the hood can make use of the list() pagination | 19:43 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: if you run the examples.get against /networks you receive the same as you would hope from doing examples.list against /networks | 19:44 |
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| briancurtin | in a network proxy we would just need to have our own loop around the body we get back | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | maybe i'll toy with that and see if it looks any better or more usable | 19:45 |
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| terrylhowe | I’d probably need to goof with it a little to form any real opinion on the best approach | 19:47 |
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| briancurtin | it's -1'ed for now so we can slow down and do it right. i'll talk to britt, who reported it, and get him an example of the thing i just said and see how that works | 19:48 |
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| briancurtin | #topic async transport backend? | 19:49 |
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| briancurtin | i've had a few people ask me if there's any thought to supporting something like tornado.http or any of the async versions of requests out there, and im not sure i even really know how to do this. or, i know how to do it, but it would make the entire thing async, i think. i might toy around with this as well, but does anyone know anything about making a | 19:50 |
| briancurtin | library that would work both async and sync? seems quite messy, i think | 19:50 |
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| briancurtin | any time i mention how you can sub out your own transport, async is the first question after that | 19:51 |
| terrylhowe | interesting problem, no ideas here | 19:52 |
| terrylhowe | I like messages over callbacks though :) | 19:52 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:53 |
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| etoews | we had that in jclouds for the longest time and then ripped it out. | 19:53 |
| briancurtin | etoews: because people didn't use it or beacuse it was a hassle? | 19:54 |
| briancurtin | (or any of the many reasons to remove code :) ) | 19:54 |
| etoews | both | 19:54 |
| etoews | the first thing it did was confuse | 19:55 |
| etoews | it forced an early design decision on users | 19:55 |
| etoews | oh. i need to choose between sync and async. i have no idea what i need at this point. | 19:55 |
| briancurtin | maybe i'll just pin it on the next person who asks me about async to do some of the work themselves. i'm definitely not the best person to do this anyway. i know a little about it, but not enough to do it right | 19:55 |
| etoews | then the underlying threading model was never quite right | 19:56 |
| etoews | for their use case | 19:56 |
| stevelle | I think the best way to do async is with a dedicated proxy model at least | 19:56 |
| briancurtin | etoews: it was kyle kelley asking me about async fwiw | 19:57 |
| stevelle | mixing the models just makes things harder | 19:57 |
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| briancurtin | you have to do 20 pushups | 19:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | my 2￠: the async versions of requests are all junk | 19:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | If people want to use then, that's their responsibility. grequests and erequests aren't maintained iirc | 19:58 |
| etoews | fwiw, we got very little complaints after we ripped it out of jclouds | 19:58 |
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| etoews | why not have the users wrap the sdk in async? maybe give them examples of how to do it to get them started. | 19:59 |
| etoews | *has opinions, has never done async in python* | 19:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: it's not pretty =P | 19:59 |
| etoews | take me with a grain of salt | 19:59 |
| briancurtin | etoews: that was kyle's first response..."ugh, i'll have to wrap this in something or keep using my own stuff" | 19:59 |
| stevelle | only way I would imagine it working well is a reactive approach to async but dunno if that is popular in py | 19:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | /time | 20:00 |
| briancurtin | yeah, i'll follow up with a few people much better at async than me and see what we can/should do | 20:00 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 3 20:00:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-03-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-03-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-03-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| etoews | thanks briancurtin | 20:00 |
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