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krotscheck#startmeeting StoryBoard16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 16 16:00:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'16:00
krotscheckGood morning everyone!16:00
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krotscheckEveryone say hi to gulic!16:01
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yolandawelcome gulic! :)16:01
gulichi :)16:01
nibalizergulic: welcome!16:01
krotscheckWe’ll let you do formal introduction thigns in the main channel, that way people not at the meeting can get to know more about you :)16:02
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krotscheck#topic Actions from Last Week16:02
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krotscheckrcarrillocruz: I saw your notification coverage change merge.16:02
krotscheckSo that’s done16:03
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krotscheck#topic Actions from last week: krotscheck)16:03
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krotscheckWorking on auth token verification made me incredibly angry at how our database wasn’t managing timestamps properly.16:03
krotscheckSo I fixed that.16:04
yolandadid that change land?16:04
krotscheckAnd then I fixed the timestamp auth check.16:04
krotscheckI don’t think so, checking16:04
krotscheckTurned out that while it was “understood” that all datetimes were in UTC, the datetime() object never had a timezone attached to it, which created lots of boilerplate around trying to align and guess timezones.16:05
krotscheckSo that got fixed.16:05
yolandaok, i need to review it16:05
NikitaKonovalovI'll also review16:05
krotscheckStory about pagination controls:!/story/1116:05
krotscheckStory on autocomplete:!/story/200016316:06
krotscheckFix cron: Didn’t get around to it.16:06
krotscheck#topic Actions from last week ( NikitaKonovalov )16:06
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NikitaKonovalovok, I've been working on sessions16:06
krotscheckI saw! That’s neat!16:07
NikitaKonovalovand finally there is a patch with a session per request approach16:07
krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: I don’t suppose you had the chance to do a before/after benchmark?16:07
NikitaKonovalovthere is also a comment about using a specific pecan hook16:07
NikitaKonovalovlooks like it will be handy16:07
krotscheckTransactionHook, yes.16:07
NikitaKonovalovas for testing, not yet16:07
NikitaKonovalovbut willdo16:08
krotscheckYou don’t ened to, I’m just curious.16:08
krotscheckThe fact that we can use the ORM linking inside storyboard now is enough for me :)16:08
NikitaKonovalovI'm also curious, that's why still will do16:08
krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: You got it.16:08
krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: I’m guessing you didn’t have time to work on the accesstoken index?16:08
NikitaKonovalovyep, no indexes still16:09
krotscheckNo worries. Anyone want to take that off NikitaKonovalov’s plate?16:09
NikitaKonovalovbut I'll switch to them after the session is done16:09
NikitaKonovalovor someone can take that16:09
krotscheckWell, it’s a super easy thing for someone who wants to get ATC status before the convention passes go out.16:10
yolandawhat needs to be done there?16:10
NikitaKonovalovbtw we can mark it as a "low hanging fruit"16:10
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krotscheckyolanda: We need the mysql accesstoken table to index on the actual token column16:10
NikitaKonovalovyolanda: there should be a migration to add index16:10
NikitaKonovalov1 file change16:10
yolandaok, i have my ATC badge but i can take it :)16:10
yolandado you have a story about it?16:10
NikitaKonovalovlet's see16:11
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yolandanp, or i just create one16:11
krotscheckCool, let’s move on.16:12
NikitaKonovalovthere it is16:12
krotscheck#topic Urgent Items: Foreign Keys!16:12
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krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: the floor is yours.16:12
NikitaKonovalovwe've got a problem16:12
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NikitaKonovalovit is possible to create a comment for a story that does not exist16:13
NikitaKonovalovwhich means that sqlalchemy declaration for a foreign key is not enough to enforce it16:13
NikitaKonovalovwithout having a real foreign key in the db16:13
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NikitaKonovalovand some time ago we droppped most of those16:14
krotscheckThat seems like a bug in SQLAlchemy16:14
NikitaKonovalovkrotscheck: probably16:14
jeblairhow would you create reference to it if you can't instantiate a story?16:14
NikitaKonovalovI can try to roll back to 0.8 sqla and see how it works there16:15
NikitaKonovalovjeblair: when creating a comment you do not need to instanciate a Story16:15
NikitaKonovalovyou just set story_id="whatever" and it works16:15
yolandaso just manipulating the javascript should be enough?16:16
jeblairthat sounds like an input validation problem... normally i would expect an app to not only verify that the story existed, but also that the user had access to it, etc....16:16
krotscheckDitto on that.16:16
NikitaKonovalovwe have options here, we may have our own validation for all foreign keys16:17
krotscheckHonestly I don’t know enough about how SQLA handles FK columns itself internally to handle things like that, so without investigation I can’t really come up with an opinion on this.16:17
NikitaKonovalovand it can be effective with new session management16:17
krotscheckI recognize that it’s an important issue that needs to be addressed though16:17
NikitaKonovalovor get the constraints back on db backend level16:18
jeblaira pattern i usually use is for this sort of thing is: story.addComment(...);  that makes it really hard to add a comment without a story16:18
NikitaKonovalovjeblair: what we now have looks more like session.add(Comment(story_id=xyz, text="a new comment"))16:19
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NikitaKonovalovanyway I'll check older sqla versions first16:21
NikitaKonovalovbut most probably we need a good validation layer for that16:21
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krotscheckI feel like SQLA should be providing that, and if it’s not we should ping their channel for some guidance.16:22
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NikitaKonovalovkrotscheck: agree, otherwise what's use of declaring constraints16:22
krotscheckBut I’ll leave it to NikitaKonovalov to figure it out.16:22
krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: Exactly16:22
jeblairrelated to the pattern i use...16:23
jeblairi never set the id field directly either16:23
jeblairi always associate two objects with each other using one of their relationships16:23
jeblairwhich requires you always have the existing object loaded16:23
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jeblairso never: comment.story_id =; but rather: comment.story = story; or: story.comments.append(comment)16:24
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jeblair(the story.addComment() method would do: comment=Comment(...); session.add(comment); self.comments.append(comment))16:25
NikitaKonovalovjeblair: I like that approach16:25
NikitaKonovalovlooks like it's time for a huge db_api refactoring16:25
* ricky1 hopes to find some time to read up a SQLA book on Safari16:26
krotscheckI feel like NikitaKonovalov’s the best qualified for that, since he’s doing something very similar in the python API library16:26
jeblairthat ^ shows the approach and mostly isn't terrible.  maybe just a little.  :)16:26
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NikitaKonovalovor I can ask aripinen to do that when he finishes refresh tokens and other stuff16:27
krotscheckjeblair: We can improve on it :)16:27
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krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: Ok, so it can be either yours or his task, but if we’re going to dramatically change how the DB api works, do you think we’ll need a spec to set some general guidelines on how we do references?16:28
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NikitaKonovalovkrotscheck: yes I can make a spec for that16:28
ricky1given the wide scope, i agree a spec would be good16:29
krotscheckWell, do we need one?16:29
krotscheckOoookay, n/m. Spec it is.16:29
krotscheck#action NikitaKonovalov Write a spec for DB APi refactor.16:30
krotscheckCool, moving on.16:30
krotscheckNo user feedback in the agenda, so we’ll skip that.16:31
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krotscheck#topic Discussion: Google Summer of Code.16:31
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krotscheckSo, the OpenStack call for GSoC proposals just went out.16:31
* NikitaKonovalov needs to read through that16:31
yolandayep, met oo16:31
krotscheckAnd I figure StoryBoard could be a good candidate, if we can find a nice, independent feature chunk that we could put forward as a proposal.16:32
yolandaoh , that sounds good16:32
krotscheckDoes anyone have any ideas?16:32
ricky1yolanda: you already spoke about HP Women Scholarship program16:33
ricky1not GSOC, but related in terms of getting someone to do SB stuff...16:33
yolandayes, gulic is going to take the file attachments feature16:33
krotscheckricky1: Yep, meet gulic  :D16:33
yolandai talked with ttx and guli about that16:33
yolandaguli=gulic.. i hate my keyboard16:33
* krotscheck likes file attachments.16:34
NikitaKonovalovfile attachmets are also worth having a spec I think16:34
yolandayes, i was talking with ttx about that, we can work with gulic and she can define it16:34
yolandaso ttx is not present today, he told he was flying16:35
krotscheckThat suggests a GSOC topic. We could build up some of the toolking which the UX team asked for into storyboard as a GSoC project.16:35
yolandabut we can talk more about it this week16:35
* krotscheck tries to steer the conversation back to the meeting topic.16:35
NikitaKonovalovkrotscheck: sounds good16:36
jeblairkrotscheck: that sounds like a great idea16:36
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krotscheckI agree. Does anyone else have feature groupings? I’d like to put this forward to the lists in general to see if anyone else has ideas.16:37
* NikitaKonovalov needs to think more on that16:37
krotscheckAlright, we’ll keep it on the agenda for next week. Everyone ponder it.16:38
yolandayes, i need to think about it as well16:38
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krotscheck#topic InProgress(krotscheck)16:39
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krotscheckWhat I didn’t spend on datetime last week I spent on two things.16:39
krotscheckThe first was to fix all the problems in the webclient that made yolanda jump through ridiculous hoops to make user preferences work.16:40
yolandaep, my hoops weren't ridiculous :)16:40
krotscheckThat more or less starts here:
yolandaor they were ...16:40
krotscheckyolanda: Yes, but they could be SO MUCH EASIER.16:40
yolandai like what you've done there16:41
krotscheckThe whole recursive link between user -> session -> resourcefactory -> user was ridiculous and unecessary.16:41
krotscheckThe other thing I worked on was email, which jeblair had raised some concerns with but I’m not really ready to discuss yet.16:42
krotscheckBut I should be ready by next week, so I’ll put that on the agenda.16:42
krotscheckrcarrilocruz is not here, we’ll skip him.16:43
ricky1bouncer is giving me grief, rcarrillocruz is in zombie...16:43
krotscheck#topic InProgress(ricky1)16:43
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ricky1i figured the reconnect thing16:43
ricky1now, we create a queue when the websocket is opened and we set the attribute x-expires to 30000016:44
ricky1that means if there's no consumer consuming it, it will be dead16:44
ricky1and put a 'reconnect' command to the SB WS protocol16:44
ricky1let's say our client connects to Tornado16:45
ricky1and subscribes to things like tasks or stories16:45
ricky1then suddenly connection drops16:45
ricky1the queue still is around keeping storing events16:45
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ricky1then the client can do in the next 5 minutes a 'reconnect <string>' and that gets bound to the previous queue, making all the undelivered messages to be sent on the WS ...16:45
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ricky1the string thing i'm not sure what convention to follow, right now i'm thinking that we sent to the client the name of the rabbitmq queue name on connect16:46
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ricky1so they can use later as the reconnect argument16:46
ricky1following that i will tackle the 'replay' command: to get events from an arbitrary date range, that will not go thru RabbitMQ, it will just be a DB lookup16:47
krotscheckricky1: When a client first makes a connection, can we 303 them to a different url that only goes to their queue?16:47
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krotschecki.e. Connect /v1/socket   -> yay but it’s over here -> 303 /v1/socket/124lfdkskajlsfalkf16:47
ricky1websockets only use HTTP on handshake16:47
ricky1after that , you can't really use 303 or other HTTP verbs16:47
krotscheckSo we can’t redirect during the handshake? Suck.16:48
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krotscheckOk, so do you have a solution, or do you want us to brainstorm something?16:49
ricky1the idea i had to prevent users to reconnect to queues that were not opened by themselves is to keep a dict/shelve of queue-names-connect strings16:50
ricky1i.e. you connect to SB Tornado, authenticate ok with your bearer token16:50
ricky1we send the client a string like 'queue-234234:connectstring'16:50
ricky1and that pair can be used later on by the client to reconnect16:50
ricky1what you think?16:50
krotscheckThat seems reasonably sane. Are there similar examples out there?16:51
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ricky1not that i've found tbh, most rabbitmq->tornado examples use cookies to persist data16:51
ricky1that's also something we could pursue16:51
ricky1to put that 'session' on a cookie and client can send on reconnect?16:52
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krotscheckAlso an option.16:53
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ricky1otoh, doing cookies kind of leaves clients to always be browsers16:53
ricky1i'd like to have this feature to be browsers, CLI clients, etc16:53
krotscheckYeah, I think that disqualifies it.16:53
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krotscheckWe need to move on to others, how about yo umove this to discussion for next week and present a list of options?16:54
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ricky1makes sense16:54
krotscheck#topic InProgress(yolanda)16:55
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krotscheckYou have 5 minutes :)16:55
yolandaintegration tests16:55
yolandai started working on that16:55
yolandai create a tooling to start and stop backend for testing16:55
yolandaand most important, i proposed some initial job
yolandabut i need jeblair feedback on that, about zuul-cloner16:56
jeblairyolanda: i should be able to do that tomorrow!16:56
yolandaok, thx, i left some comments on the change16:56
yolandaAjaeger also reviewed the change16:56
yolandai set the tests as non-voting but seems that for gate, all tests need to pass16:56
yolandaso we either rely on check-* at the moment, or we use some experimental pipeline16:57
yolandawhat do you think?16:57
jeblairyolanda: just put the nonvoting job in check, then when you are ready to make it voting, add it to the gate in the same change16:57
yolandamaybe just a check and we ensure that everything makes sense?16:57
yolandaand krotscheck, i created some initial POC for the integration tests, but i'm sure you can give better advice :)16:58
krotscheckOn it!16:58
yolandabasically using protractor to test real api requests16:58
* krotscheck loves all the words in that sentence.16:58
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yolandai was reading a lot about TDD, karma and protractor this weekend on Safari16:59
krotscheckAlright, we’re ready to wrap up.16:59
yolandai really love that subscription16:59
yolandaok, latest one16:59
yolandathis needs another +2 ^16:59
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krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: you’re on deck for htat.17:00
krotscheckI’ve already _2’d it :)17:00
krotscheckThanks everyone!17:00
krotscheck#endmeeting StoryBoard17:00
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pjnaik1990_hello!! I have made few changes in the congress code, I am new to openstack.could anyone tell me how do I give the code for review22:16
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