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| * jroll \o | 05:01 | |
| jroll | NobodyCam: you doing this or me? | 05:01 |
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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 05:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 05:01:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:01 | |
| NobodyCam | #chair jroll | 05:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 05:01 |
| jroll | woot | 05:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 05:01 |
| jroll | uh oh | 05:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda jroll | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 05:01 |
| Nisha | o/ | 05:01 |
| JoshNang | o/ | 05:01 |
| mrda | o/ | 05:01 |
| naohirot | o/ | 05:01 |
| jroll | I suddenly have responsibility. I don't like it. | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 05:01 |
| jroll | \o | 05:01 |
| rameshg87 | o/ | 05:01 |
| ramineni | o/ | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 05:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:02 | |
| faizan | o/ | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | howdy all | 05:02 |
| stendulker | o/ | 05:02 |
| rameshg87 | o/ | 05:02 |
| NobodyCam | announcements: | 05:02 |
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| * rameshg87 understands i should raise hands only during roll-call | 05:02 | |
| NobodyCam | we had a good meetup in SF ... Thanks to rackspace for hosting | 05:03 |
| mrda | Thanks SFO Rackers! | 05:03 |
| jroll | :) | 05:03 |
| JoshNang | \o/ | 05:03 |
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| jroll | y'all are welcome any time, officially or not | 05:03 |
| jroll | I promise to have working internet next time | 05:03 |
| mrda | lol :) | 05:04 |
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| NobodyCam | Devananda may be lurking, but I expect he's mostly still recovering from travel plage | 05:04 |
| NobodyCam | moring mrda | 05:04 |
| mrda | afternoon here now :) | 05:04 |
| devanand_ | o/ | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | another announcement: we have lots of code that needs reviewing | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | for k# | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | k3 even | 05:05 |
| jroll | indeed | 05:05 |
| jroll | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/kilo-3 | 05:05 |
| jroll | so much code | 05:06 |
| NobodyCam | and about a mounth to land it all | 05:06 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 05:06 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 05:07 |
| mrda | focus focus focus | 05:07 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam, some blueprint's (merged spec) target need to set | 05:08 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: jroll: devanand_ : I'm really interested in the review statuses which were originally planned kilo-2 | 05:08 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam, for example https://github.com/openstack/ironic-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/ironic-generic-raid-interface.rst | 05:08 |
| NobodyCam | :) so the more eyes the better... focus on functionality nit can be addressed in followup patches | 05:08 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: such as ATM, non-glance, and iRMC etc. | 05:08 |
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| jroll | rameshg87: when devanand_ is no longer sick, please poke him to do that | 05:08 |
| jroll | naohirot: which, specifically? | 05:09 |
| rameshg87 | jroll, okay | 05:09 |
| NobodyCam | oh I should also anouunce that we will be having someone start to track the spec/bp status starting tomorrow (for us) | 05:09 |
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| wanyen | Nobodaycam, I would like to add iLO node cleaning to K3 | 05:09 |
| mrda | NobodyCam: well, you should introduce them | 05:09 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: who's that? :D | 05:10 |
| NobodyCam | that would be BadCub :) | 05:10 |
| * jroll \o/ for a BadCub | 05:10 | |
| naohirot | jroll: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134865/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146803/ | 05:10 |
| jroll | naohirot: cool, those look targeted for k3 to me | 05:10 |
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| devanand_ | rameshg87: BadCub can help with that, too, now | 05:10 |
| NobodyCam | so starting tomorrow BadCub01_ will be going thru and ensuring everything is insync | 05:11 |
| stendulker | NobodyCam: Secure boot support for iLO drivers is also a mergd spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135228 | 05:11 |
| NobodyCam | stendulker: we reviewed a couple at the meetup and then have been traveling and such | 05:12 |
| naohirot | jroll: yes, but those were originally planned in kilo-2 | 05:12 |
| NobodyCam | so we'll be jumping into it tomorrow | 05:12 |
| jroll | naohirot: right, we're aware, I think we'll prioritize those | 05:12 |
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| NobodyCam | ok thats it for my announcements | 05:12 |
| stendulker | NobodyCam: thanks | 05:12 |
| NobodyCam | anyone else have any | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving in then | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | #topic SubTeam: status report (deprecated) | 05:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SubTeam: status report (deprecated) (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:13 | |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: jroll: I'd like to know the current priority | 05:13 |
| NobodyCam | naohirot: priority for? | 05:14 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: jroll: so that we can schedule tasks in each company | 05:14 |
| jroll | naohirot: I mean, it's a priority for k3 | 05:14 |
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| jroll | I don't know what to say otherwise | 05:14 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: jroll: current priority of originally planned kilo-2 | 05:15 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: such as ATM, non-glance, iRMC Management driver, etc. | 05:16 |
| NobodyCam | naohirot: anything not done should have been bump it k3? | 05:16 |
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| jroll | naohirot: right, it's a priority for K3, reviewers are aware of what was bumped to k3 from k2 | 05:16 |
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| jroll | naohirot: not sure what else I can really say about that | 05:16 |
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| naohirot | jroll: I'm very afread of happing such kind of bump again in kilo-3 | 05:16 |
| wanyen | NobodyCam, we need both uefi secure boot and iLo secure boot to complete the secure boot feature. Can you add iLo secure boot to K3? | 05:16 |
| jroll | naohirot: we'll do what we can, we only have so many reviewers and so much time | 05:17 |
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| jroll | we'll do our best | 05:17 |
| jroll | wanyen: are the specs landed? | 05:17 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: I have a +2 on one and will review the other tomorrow | 05:18 |
| wanyen | jroll, yes. | 05:18 |
| jroll | wanyen: ok, talk to deva or BadCub tomorrow please | 05:18 |
| NobodyCam | but first are there any questions, on the status we have on hte white board?? | 05:18 |
| * mrda looks | 05:19 | |
| naohirot | jroll: I know core team is busy, so I think discussing the review priority in this meeting is important. | 05:19 |
| NobodyCam | (As of Mon, 16 Feb 20:00 UTC) Open: 133 (0). 4 new (-5), 39 in progress (+5), 0 critical, 19 high (+2) and 7 incomplete | 05:19 |
| jroll | naohirot: we're doing what we can :| | 05:19 |
| naohirot | jroll: Yes, but I need some information to predict future to report the status to my company :) | 05:20 |
| NobodyCam | ok then moving on | 05:20 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Agenda items | 05:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda items (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:20 | |
| NobodyCam | (ramineni) Need Agreement on whether get/set boot mode to be part of ManagementInterface as proposed in the following spec, | 05:21 |
| NobodyCam | ramineni: are you here | 05:21 |
| ramineni | NobodyCam: yes | 05:21 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129529/ | 05:21 |
| ramineni | proposed get/set boot mode to be standardized as part of management interface as many drivers would be using it as part of deploy in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129529/4 | 05:21 |
| jroll | naohirot: that's not something I can predict, there's a good chance it will land in K3 assuming reviewers and developers are both responsive to feedback. moving on... | 05:21 |
| ramineni | deva has given +1 , but no reviews after that. Not sure if everyone agrees with that | 05:21 |
| wanyen | jroll, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135845/ still need one +2 and ilo secure boot spec already merged. | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | ramineni: we have been traveling to and from the meetups I expect reviews to pick up here this weel | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | week even | 05:22 |
| jroll | wanyen: getting off topic... | 05:22 |
| ramineni | NobodyCam: thanks | 05:22 |
| wanyen | jroll, sure. I ws just try to clarify. | 05:23 |
| jroll | ramineni: these are currently at the driver level? | 05:23 |
| jroll | ramineni: at a glance I'm +1 on this | 05:23 |
| ramineni | yes , currently proposed at driver level , would be good if it could be standardized , as every driver needs it | 05:23 |
| jroll | ok, cool | 05:24 |
| jroll | I agree :) | 05:24 |
| NobodyCam | I thou I would say there was some confusion in channel about this and the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135845/ review | 05:24 |
| devanand_ | Keep in mind that driver interfaces can't be partially implemented | 05:24 |
| jroll | mmm, true | 05:25 |
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| jroll | but drivers that can't do these things could treat set_boot_device('bios') as a noop | 05:25 |
| devanand_ | So moving those to the mgmt interface means any driver that implements get/set boot mode must also set | 05:25 |
| devanand_ | Must also define the rest of the interface | 05:25 |
| jroll | yeah, can assume only 'bios' is available if unsupported | 05:26 |
| jroll | raise an exception for everything else | 05:26 |
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| jroll | anything else on this topic? | 05:28 |
| NobodyCam | sorry was reading | 05:28 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: I am curious what the difference is | 05:28 |
| jroll | need to read more | 05:28 |
| NobodyCam | I to need to take a closer look | 05:28 |
| jroll | set_(secure_)boot_mode | 05:28 |
| jroll | hm | 05:28 |
| ramineni | jroll : you meant between two sepcs .. the latter is for enabling secure boot not boot mode | 05:29 |
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| jroll | right | 05:29 |
| jroll | I wonder if those could be the same method | 05:30 |
| ramineni | secure boot is only applicable if the machine is in uefi boot mode | 05:30 |
| stendulker | jroll: They are independent, in the sense secure boot is property only of uefi boot bode | 05:31 |
| jroll | hmm | 05:31 |
| stendulker | jroll: /sbode /mode | 05:31 |
| jroll | right, so there's three options: bios, uefi, uefi_secure, right? | 05:31 |
| NobodyCam | ramineni: I think jroll is suggesting that set boot mode could do "bois" , "uefi" , "uefi Secure" | 05:31 |
| NobodyCam | :0 | 05:32 |
| jroll | basically | 05:32 |
| wanyen | jroll, only bios or uefi for set_boot_mode, secure boot is seperate | 05:32 |
| NobodyCam | but lest loop back to that one | 05:32 |
| jroll | wanyen: ignoring the actual method name, there's three states it could be in yes? | 05:32 |
| NobodyCam | we have that still to come | 05:32 |
| jroll | let's just talk about that one now/next | 05:33 |
| jroll | since they're somewhat related | 05:33 |
| stendulker | jroll, NobodyCam: One cannot set the uefi secure boot mode in a single API call | 05:33 |
| NobodyCam | ok :) | 05:33 |
| wanyen | jroll, for kilo only 3 state. In the future, there are more uefi boot options | 05:33 |
| NobodyCam | stendulker: :) | 05:33 |
| devanand_ | wanyen: like what? | 05:33 |
| jroll | stendulker: why? | 05:33 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135845/ | 05:33 |
| wanyen | jroll, for instance, uefi http boot | 05:34 |
| stendulker | jroll, NobodyCam: Current boot mode should be uefi to turn on secure boot | 05:34 |
| jroll | wanyen: so we should make a different method for each of these modes? | 05:34 |
| ramineni | yes , but secure boot is one capability which can be set only in uefi boot mode ..not sure if can be merged | 05:34 |
| jroll | stendulker: why couldn't an API call to set secure boot put it in uefi mode first? | 05:34 |
| jroll | I don't see why this couldn't all be one call with many modes | 05:35 |
| wanyen | jroll, that's what secure boot does, if secure-boot flavor is present, ten ilo driver will setit to uefi automatically | 05:35 |
| stendulker | jroll: yes, you need 2 APi calls to achieve secure boot | 05:35 |
| devanand_ | jroll: ++ | 05:35 |
| jroll | stendulker: *why* | 05:35 |
| jroll | stendulker: with the code/specs proposed today, that's true. I conjecture that it does not need to be that way | 05:36 |
| stendulker | jroll: first to put the node to uefi and then after reboot to turn on the secure boot | 05:36 |
| devanand_ | stendulker: two calls to the server, sure, but that could be underneath a single ironic API | 05:36 |
| jroll | stendulker: that could still be one API call. PUT /v1/nodes/uuid/boot_mode {'target': 'uefi+secure'} | 05:36 |
| jroll | or something | 05:37 |
| jroll | I tend to think we should consolidate these | 05:37 |
| devanand_ | stendulker: wait. Why would I have to boot a server *before* I enable secure boot? | 05:37 |
| jroll | get the uefi spec done, then add secure boot spec on top of it to add 'uefi+secure' to set_boot_mode | 05:37 |
| stendulker | devanand_ : secure boot could be enable only if the current boot mode is uefi | 05:38 |
| wanyen | jroll, we don't have an api for user to turnon secure_boot. secure_boot is turned on by flavor | 05:38 |
| devanand_ | wanyen: Nova passes information to ironic api to enable secure boot | 05:38 |
| devanand_ | So yes there is an api | 05:39 |
| NobodyCam | not a cli command maybe | 05:39 |
| jroll | I'm so confused as to why the operator has to do anything to make a node do UEFI or UEFI with secure boot, other than maybe flavors | 05:39 |
| jroll | there shouldn't need to be a REST API to put a node in any boot mode, that should all be automatic | 05:39 |
| stendulker | jroll: yes there is no REST API proposed to put to secure boot | 05:40 |
| wanyen | deva, waht I meant is that we don't have a standalone api for user to turn on secure_boot. It is enabled as part of the nova boot, which turns into api | 05:40 |
| jroll | and this is all fine | 05:41 |
| devanand_ | Via the /instance_info/ resource, right? | 05:41 |
| jroll | I think there should be one set_boot_mode in the management interface, that can handle UEFI with or without secure boot | 05:41 |
| wanyen | stendulker, I don't think user needs to call set_boot_mode uefi before nova boot with secure boot falvor. right? | 05:41 |
| stendulker | wanyen: yes | 05:42 |
| wanyen | jroll, basically secure boot can only be enabled by flavor. | 05:42 |
| jroll | ok, that's fine | 05:42 |
| NobodyCam | would like to get to faizan_'s topic so going to time box this at 5 more minutes | 05:42 |
| stendulker | wan-yen: Upon getting flavor as secure_boot, in prepare stage, boot mode would be changed to uefi by the driver | 05:42 |
| jroll | there should still be a management interface to set secure boot | 05:43 |
| jroll | and that should be set_boot_mode('uefi+secure') or similar | 05:43 |
| jroll | (imho) | 05:43 |
| devanand_ | Hmm. Ok, I think I see the problem. A set boot mode endpoint in the api would be duplicating other existing resources | 05:43 |
| * mrda notes this is an interesting discussion | 05:43 | |
| stendulker | and in deploy vendor-passthrough, secure boot mode would be enabled on the node | 05:43 |
| wanyen | jroll, yes. uefi secure boot mgmt i/f has set_secure_boot_mode to do that | 05:44 |
| jroll | devanand_: I don't see this problem, I think having a "set boot mode" endpoint is a problem | 05:44 |
| devanand_ | Iiuc, the proposals were to pass this on instance info | 05:44 |
| devanand_ | jroll: right. That's what I mean. A new REST endpoint fire this *is* a problem | 05:44 |
| wanyen | jroll, there is not set_secure_boot_mode end point. The set_secure_boot_mode mgmt i/f is for driver only | 05:44 |
| jroll | wanyen: I understand | 05:45 |
| wanyen | by the way, the passing capability flavor to ironic has been extended by Nova to 02/20. | 05:46 |
| wanyen | we need to merge the code by 02/20. | 05:46 |
| jroll | ok so to get this wrapped up: does anyone oppose merging set_secure_boot_mode into set_boot_mode? | 05:47 |
| devanand_ | wanyen: is nova waiting on us for anything? | 05:47 |
| NobodyCam | i think it a good idea | 05:47 |
| wanyen | I meant the ffe for passisng capability to ironic instance info has been classified as boderline and need to merge code by 02/20 | 05:47 |
| wanyen | code has been submitted and reviewed by several ironic core reviewers | 05:48 |
| NobodyCam | should we # vote on it? | 05:48 |
| wanyen | but we still need Nova reviewers to approve the code | 05:48 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: I'd rather vote in the review | 05:48 |
| * jroll makes a review | 05:48 | |
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| NobodyCam | ack | 05:48 |
| NobodyCam | okay let jump on to: For partition image support in agent driver, submitted the common disk_partitioner code in oslo-incubator as "libironic" | 05:49 |
| NobodyCam | faizan_: thats you | 05:49 |
| naohirot | jroll: do you mean set_secure_boot_mode become third or fourth of paramter of set_boot_mode? | 05:49 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155190/ | 05:49 |
| jroll | should we #topic? | 05:49 |
| jroll | naohirot: I mean make e.g. "uefi+secure" a boot mode | 05:49 |
| jroll | that sets uefi and secure | 05:49 |
| wanyen | jroll, I don't think we should merge set secure boot mode to set boot mode | 05:49 |
| NobodyCam | oh I just set a agenda items topic | 05:49 |
| jroll | ........... | 05:49 |
| jroll | wanyen: please express that opinion on the reviw | 05:50 |
| jroll | review, even | 05:50 |
| NobodyCam | is faizan_ here? | 05:50 |
| faizan_ | jroll: devananda: I wanted to get clarity on where to host this piece of code | 05:50 |
| wanyen | set-boot_mode has end poitn but set_ssecure_boot_mode doesn't | 05:50 |
| NobodyCam | ahh | 05:50 |
| jroll | ah, right. | 05:50 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: lets come back to that in Open Discussion | 05:50 |
| jroll | so we talked about this some with jogo and others at the meetup | 05:50 |
| wanyen | we only want it to be enabled via flavor not via a seperate mgmt endpoint. | 05:51 |
| stendulker | Also we do not wat the secureboot API to be called except for during deploy | 05:51 |
| jroll | we tend to think putting more things in oslo-incubator is bad | 05:51 |
| jroll | stendulker: wanyen we've moved on | 05:51 |
| NobodyCam | we have 9 minutes | 05:51 |
| NobodyCam | lets move on and come back if theres time | 05:51 |
| devanand_ | #topic library for disk utils | 05:51 |
| jroll | we talked about this some with jogo and others at the meetup | 05:52 |
| faizan_ | If everyone is of the opinion of not putting in oslo-incubator, then fine | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | #topic library for disk utils | 05:52 |
| jroll | we tend to think putting more things in oslo-incubator is bad | 05:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "library for disk utils (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:52 | |
| NobodyCam | @chair devanand_ | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | gah | 05:52 |
| devanand_ | Hehe | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devanand_ | 05:52 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devanand_ devananda jroll | 05:52 |
| jroll | I don't see any reason why we shouldn't just make this openstack/libironic, openstack/ironic-disk-utils, something like that | 05:52 |
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| devanand_ | Where are these util consumed today? | 05:53 |
| devanand_ | Ironic, IPA, ...? | 05:53 |
| jroll | this is about disk partitioning stuff, which is currently just ironic | 05:53 |
| jroll | we want it in IPA | 05:53 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155190/ | 05:53 |
| faizan_ | yes, only in these two places | 05:53 |
| jroll | that *should* ne it | 05:53 |
| jroll | be* | 05:53 |
| devanand_ | K | 05:53 |
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| jroll | I don't care about names, I care about keeping it out of oslo | 05:54 |
| devanand_ | Why? | 05:54 |
| jroll | oslo incubator, mostly | 05:54 |
| rameshg87 | jroll, but apart from partitioning library, is there some other ironic functionality that can be shared between ironic and ipa ? | 05:54 |
| jroll | because oslo incubator is weird | 05:54 |
| jroll | rameshg87: it's unclear today, I think | 05:54 |
| devanand_ | jroll: why? | 05:54 |
| rameshg87 | jroll, if it's a library of one file for now, does it make sense to put it into a separate project of it's own | 05:55 |
| jroll | devanand_: there's too much stuff there, updating sucks, etc | 05:55 |
| faizan_ | even though put it in oslo.incubator, eventually it will be merged in ironic/IPA under openstack/comm/libironc | 05:55 |
| devanand_ | Given the current simplicity of this, is the overhead worth it? | 05:56 |
| jroll | devanand_: I hate the concept of oslo-incubator in general, also people are trying to keep it from bloating | 05:56 |
| jroll | I *do* think it should be a library | 05:56 |
| jroll | I tend not to care about where it lives, other than I'd like to keep it out of oslo-incubator | 05:56 |
| JoshNang | metrics code could be shared between ironic and ipa | 05:56 |
| devanand_ | Whether Oslo incubator or a separate library project, are we gaining more than it will cost us to maintain? | 05:56 |
| jroll | yes, partiioning is hard | 05:57 |
| NobodyCam | maintaince is my concern | 05:57 |
| NobodyCam | * 3 minutes | 05:57 |
| devanand_ | Oslo itself would seem a better place then | 05:58 |
| jroll | we know how to maintain a library | 05:58 |
| devanand_ | Or we do our own library | 05:58 |
| jroll | another reason for keeping it out of oslo-incubator, is that things in oslo-incubator are essentially marked as "unstable" and people are fine with breaking APIs | 05:58 |
| devanand_ | Well | 05:58 |
| devanand_ | In this case I think that's accurate | 05:59 |
| NobodyCam | so our own lib? | 05:59 |
| devanand_ | Or rather guaranteeing q stable api for this, I don't see why that's something we need to do now | 05:59 |
| jroll | what | 05:59 |
| jroll | we already rely on the api | 05:59 |
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| NobodyCam | thats officially time | 06:00 |
| devanand_ | I'm missing something then | 06:00 |
| NobodyCam | can we continue in channel? | 06:00 |
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| jroll | yes | 06:00 |
| devanand_ | Yep | 06:00 |
| NobodyCam | Thank you all | 06:00 |
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| NobodyCam | let coninute in channel | 06:01 |
| NobodyCam | @endmeeting | 06:01 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 06:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 06:01:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-02-17-05.01.html | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-02-17-05.01.txt | 06:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-02-17-05.01.log.html | 06:01 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all. This is the Congress meeting. | 17:00 |
| sarob | morn | 17:01 |
| rajdeepd | hi | 17:01 |
| Yali_ | hi | 17:01 |
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| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 17:01:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | Let's start with status updates. | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | #topic status | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs | rajdeepd: since it's so late for you, want to start so you can hop off when you need to? | 17:02 |
| rajdeepd | ok sure | 17:02 |
| rajdeepd | i have been working on horizon data source status table | 17:03 |
| rajdeepd | updated the CL based on review comments from jwh and arosen | 17:03 |
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| rajdeepd | sent it for review today morning india time | 17:04 |
| rajdeepd | that summarizes my status update | 17:04 |
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| thinrichs | Thanks. I'll try to remind them to give you another review in the next couple of days. | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | I don't see them online now. | 17:05 |
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| thinrichs | sarob: want to go next? | 17:05 |
| sarob | shirely | 17:05 |
| sarob | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056664.html | 17:06 |
| rajdeepd | ok thanks | 17:06 |
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| sarob | we want to tidy up launchpad | 17:06 |
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| sarob | so bugs and blueprint assignments get | 17:07 |
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| sarob | published as completed as part of the | 17:07 |
| sarob | of the completed milestone | 17:07 |
| sarob | also tagging the repo with the same milestone | 17:08 |
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| sarob | ttx and fungi have responded to the thread | 17:08 |
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| sarob | i will do the tasks manually this time | 17:08 |
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| sarob | next milestone i will see if I can use ttx's script | 17:09 |
| sarob | any questions? | 17:09 |
| arosen1 | Hiya, Sorry i was running late. | 17:09 |
| sarob | arosen1: morn | 17:09 |
| thinrichs | arosen1: we're doing status updates, as usual. | 17:09 |
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| thinrichs | sarob just went over our kilo2 release plans. | 17:10 |
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| thinrichs | sarob: seems okay to me. | 17:10 |
| arosen1 | cool, yea i saw his email on the mailing list last week. SOunds good to me. | 17:10 |
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| sarob | coolo | 17:10 |
| thinrichs | sarob: have you looked at how many of our kilo2 bps are slipping to kilo3? | 17:10 |
| sarob | hold a sec | 17:11 |
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| sarob | #link https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/kilo-2 | 17:11 |
| sarob | maybe one will be kilo-2 | 17:12 |
| sarob | or two | 17:12 |
| sarob | rest are going to kilo-3 | 17:12 |
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| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150514/ | 17:13 |
| sarob | i believe completes | 17:14 |
| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/murano-driver | 17:14 |
| sarob | i think | 17:14 |
| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/modal-operators-for-policy | 17:14 |
| sarob | had some code pushed | 17:14 |
| sarob | cant see the reference in the bp though | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | Have you heard from Kishan about the action-execution interface? | 17:15 |
| sarob | he was going to start work on it | 17:15 |
| sarob | as the murano driver was completed | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | What about Zhenzan and the policy-engine triggers? | 17:16 |
| sarob | i havent seen him push any code | 17:16 |
| stevenldt | hi. I'm working on murano-driver. I still have some revision I plan to submit for review. | 17:16 |
| sarob | nothing since last week | 17:16 |
| sarob | kishan around? | 17:17 |
| sarob | zhenzan? | 17:17 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: Great! Those drivers take a number of revisions before they're stable, typically. | 17:17 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: want to do your status update? | 17:18 |
| sarob | i will follow up with those two | 17:18 |
| sarob | im done | 17:18 |
| stevenldt | sure | 17:18 |
| stevenldt | I'm working on some revision to extend the datasource tables to sync up with Murano | 17:19 |
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| thinrichs | sarob: sorry—assumed you were done, but I should have asked. | 17:19 |
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| sarob | #action sarob follow up with kishan action-execution and zhenzan policy engine triggers | 17:19 |
| stevenldt | I may have the code ready for review this week or early next since this week is a short week for me | 17:20 |
| sarob | thinrichs: np! | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: sounds good. Let us know if you need anything from us. | 17:21 |
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| stevenldt | I have a question regarding the changes on the datasource query, at least on the cli | 17:21 |
| arosen1 | stevenldt: shoot | 17:21 |
| sarob | #action sarob will release kilo-2 milestone; launchpad milestone kilo-2 release and github tagging repo with 2015.1.0b2 | 17:21 |
| stevenldt | we now have to create the datasource before use, and to read the datasource table, we use the uuid instead of the name of the datasource | 17:22 |
| stevenldt | is that what we're going forward with? | 17:22 |
| arosen1 | stevenldt: yup. | 17:23 |
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| thinrichs | From the CLI, we shouldn't need to use the datasource uuid. | 17:23 |
| arosen1 | This allows us to move to a multitenant api as well. | 17:23 |
| thinrichs | That's a step backwards. | 17:23 |
| arosen1 | thinrichs: right you don't need to use the uuid on the CLI | 17:23 |
| stevenldt | Ok. Thanks. I may need to review my part to adapt to that. | 17:23 |
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| arosen1 | I think there was one bug there where you did need to use the cli but here it is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154993/ | 17:23 |
| arosen1 | thats the fix ^ | 17:24 |
| cloudtoa_ | Keeping it usable by humans is a ++. | 17:24 |
| arosen1 | yup you can keep using the CLI by name or uuid. | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: anything else? | 17:25 |
| stevenldt | Great. That's all from me. | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: want to do a status report? | 17:25 |
| cloudtoa_ | I need 36 hours in a day. | 17:26 |
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| cloudtoa_ | I'll have something submitted in the next couple of days for the control bus part. | 17:26 |
| cloudtoa_ | Assuming I have time, I'll have the first pass at the blueprint for the table-service submitted. | 17:27 |
| cloudtoa_ | By end of week. | 17:27 |
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| thinrichs | The kilo3 deadline is mid-March. | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | After that we stop adding new features, for the most part. | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | And we focus on stabilizing. | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | Before the official kilo release. | 17:29 |
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| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: sounds like you'll have the control bus work done by kilo3. | 17:29 |
| cloudtoa_ | yes | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | What do you think about the table-service work? | 17:29 |
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| cloudtoa_ | What do you mean? You mean the work that arosen is doing? | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: you just said you'd make a first pass at the blueprint for the table-service work. | 17:31 |
| thinrichs | That's what I'm asking about. | 17:31 |
| cloudtoa_ | I was thinking of splitting the datasource driver into different pieces. It's probably too much to squeeze into an IRC session. | 17:32 |
| thinrichs | OK. We'll wait for your blueprint/spec then. | 17:33 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: anything else from you? | 17:33 |
| cloudtoa_ | No, that is all. | 17:33 |
| thinrichs | Thanks! | 17:33 |
| thinrichs | arosen1: want to tell us what you've been up to? | 17:33 |
| arosen1 | Sure | 17:35 |
| arosen1 | So, we just merged the patch that allows datasources to be configurable via the api on wednesday last week. | 17:35 |
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| arosen1 | Now we no longer have the datasource.conf file and all the datasource information is stored in the database instead. | 17:36 |
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| arosen1 | In addition, several changes were made to the api code to use uuid's in the URLs instead of names so that our api can eventually work with multiple tenants. | 17:36 |
| arosen1 | I've also been revamping our CI a little and now the congress ci also validates patches against the python-congressclient. | 17:37 |
| arosen1 | That's it unless someone wants to discuss. | 17:37 |
| cloudtoa_ | datasource.conf being gone... | 17:38 |
| cloudtoa_ | are we storing like a JSON blob in the database? | 17:38 |
| arosen1 | cloudtoa_: yup | 17:38 |
| arosen1 | there is a new api call /v1/drivers/<name>/config | 17:38 |
| Radu- | Is there a way to update that without deleting the row? | 17:38 |
| arosen1 | which tells you want you need to pass in to congress to register a specific datasource drivers (since they all have different connection requirements) | 17:39 |
| Radu- | ah, the'/config' part was missing in the git commit. That was confusing me a bit. | 17:39 |
| arosen1 | Radu-: right now we only support POST/DELETE/GET on it. I didn't implement update | 17:39 |
| arosen1 | Radu-: yea, check out the devstack changes I made as well which shows how to use it via the cli | 17:40 |
| arosen1 | it doesn't show getting the config though | 17:40 |
| Yali_ | Hello, everyone. It is the first time for me to enter this meeting. But Jim Xu has exchanged some ideas about congress UI. I hope I can do some contributions. | 17:41 |
| Radu- | and it seems that you have to specific what values can be configured from the driver as well now. | 17:41 |
| thinrichs | Yali_: Nice to have you join us! After we finish up discussing these latest changes from arosen, we'll ask you to talk a bit about your interests. | 17:42 |
| arosen1 | Radu-: yup | 17:42 |
| Radu- | is that just a matter of updating the drivers get_datasource_info result[config] variable? | 17:43 |
| Radu- | Sorry If Im repeating anything that was discussed when I had left the channel for a few minutes. Didn't think I would be able to stay any longer | 17:44 |
| arosen1 | Radu-: https://github.com/stackforge/congress/blob/master/congress/datasources/plexxi_driver.py#L83 | 17:44 |
| arosen1 | Radu-: yea lets talk about it in #congress after | 17:44 |
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| Radu- | Ok thanks | 17:45 |
| thinrichs | arosen1: Which APIs changed to require UUIDs instead of names? | 17:45 |
| arosen1 | thinrichs: the data-sources one | 17:46 |
| arosen1 | since now an instance of a data-srouce is a uuid not a name | 17:46 |
| arosen1 | in the url | 17:46 |
| * arosen1 but the client hides all of that for you if you want to use the name | 17:47 | |
| thinrichs | Just the datasource then? | 17:47 |
| arosen1 | correct | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | OK. I think as a general rule we want to make the API friendly as well, in case someone isn't using the CLI. | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | I should give a quick status update. | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | I've been working on the problem of delegation recently: how do we carve off a piece of the policy the user has given us and give it to a domain-specific policy engine, eg. a VM-placement policy engine? | 17:49 |
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| thinrichs | You can find details if you look at the openstack-dev mailing list for messages with [Congress][Delegation] in the subject. | 17:50 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone else have a status update they want to give, before we hear from Yali. | 17:50 |
| thinrichs | ? | 17:50 |
| thinrichs | Yali_: could you tell us a bit about yourself and why you're interested in Congress? | 17:51 |
| Yali_ | sure | 17:52 |
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| Yali_ | i an a newer for congress. but i think it is very important for the whole cloud. | 17:53 |
| Yali_ | to make the cloud compliance. | 17:53 |
| thinrichs | Could you tell us your name and where you work, so we know you outside of IRC? | 17:54 |
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| Yali_ | Ok. My name is Yali Zhang, from China. And i am working in Huawei Company, same with Jim Xu. | 17:55 |
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| thinrichs | Great! Is there some part of Congress you're especially interested in? Policy engine, datasources, UI? | 17:56 |
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| Yali_ | Yes, I am interested in UI nowadays. | 17:57 |
| thinrichs | Glad to have you. Let us know if you need pointers to get started. Many of us hang out in #congress in IRC all day. | 17:58 |
| thinrichs | 2 minutes remaining. | 17:58 |
| thinrichs | Any topics to broach quickly? | 17:58 |
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| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 17:58 |
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| sarob | im working on getting a design session room for at 60+ people for at three hour sessions | 17:59 |
| Yali_ | now I have some ideas about UI, and hope to share with you. | 17:59 |
| thinrichs | sarob: nice! | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | If the next summit is anything like the last we'll need it. | 18:00 |
| sarob | yup | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | Yali_: we're looking forward to it! | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | And we're out of time. | 18:00 |
| sarob | ill update on incubation next time | 18:00 |
| arosen1 | Also voting for openstack summit talks are now open. | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | We can continue on #congress if anyone wants. | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | Yes—everyone get out and vote! | 18:00 |
| arosen1 | Here's a list of the congress talks if you guys want to vote for all of them: http://blog.aaronorosen.com/congress-liberty-summit-talks/ | 18:00 |
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| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 18:01:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-17-17.01.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-17-17.01.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-17-17.01.log.html | 18:01 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 18:59 |
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| sigmavirus24 | stevelle: I like that stevelle.me has https | 19:00 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 19:00:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| stevelle | sigmavirus24: I haven't audited to see if I did https well or just enough | 19:01 |
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| terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ian Cordasco, Rackspace | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | Brian Curtin | 19:01 |
| stevelle | Steve Lewis, Rackspace | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | so i put together an agenda that i'll try to work off of, but there's a lot to get through: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2015-02-16_1900_UTC | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | #topic KSC auth - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156064/ | 19:02 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i put a few comments on there after trying it out. overall looks good, just a few consistency things with project/tenant, and then user_name/username | 19:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | Is the point of this to allow existing keystone client auth plugins to work instead of having to reimplement them for openstacksdk? | 19:03 |
| terrylhowe | I’m having a tough time keeping up with the onslaught of code from briancurtin so I haven’t had a chance to address that | 19:03 |
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| terrylhowe | yeh, at the summit we discussed bringing those back from compatibility | 19:04 |
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| terrylhowe | we still have the generic identity plugin that I think is default | 19:04 |
| terrylhowe | KSC also has two other plugins that I didn’t bring over in that patch, maybe in another change request | 19:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | That makes sense. I'll take a gander and give it a try | 19:05 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i think it would be best to have this KSC switch before we do do more with the vendor plugins so we have that squared away before you or i or anyone else go off and write one type of plugin and then change | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | is my understanding correct? | 19:06 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, if the vendor plugin was inheiriting off the previous plugins | 19:06 |
| briancurtin | cool, whenever you have time for more on that i'm ready for reviews so we can make sure it's in | 19:07 |
| terrylhowe | k | 19:08 |
| briancurtin | #topic Support Resource as a type for properties - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152275/ | 19:08 |
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| briancurtin | that review allows for a couple of other things in the queue which are pretty powerful. it'll make resources which currently use other resource IDs pretty nice, and it allowed for a pretty nice combination of sub-resources where compute.v2.Limits contains an AbsoluteLimit and a RateLimit | 19:09 |
| stevelle | I like the idea on this one, just haven't really decided on the review | 19:10 |
| briancurtin | we've wanted something better for IDs for a while now. the Limits thing came up when I was tinkering around and realized what that could do | 19:10 |
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| terrylhowe | it looks good, I’d like to mess with it to make sure I understand how it works | 19:11 |
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| briancurtin | cool. i might do some writing on the toying around that came of that, because the compute.v2.limits change shows off how to build a resource out of a complex body like limits pretty well | 19:13 |
| stevelle | that sounds like a good idea briancurtin | 19:14 |
| briancurtin | #topic the base Resource.find | 19:14 |
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| briancurtin | i had a few approaches to fix Resource.find that came from using it and finding that the filter args it uses don't work in enough cases, but then my method was far too heavy handed and would require a lot of data | 19:15 |
| briancurtin | i tried a few other things and 15 minutes ago came up with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156707/ | 19:15 |
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| briancurtin | it tries to just GET /myresource/name_or_id - if it's an ID that it exsists, it'll be returned. if not, we have to try to get data and do client side filtering. by default, all we can do is take all the data. however, when we know what type of filtering we can provide, we accept that and pass it on | 19:16 |
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| briancurtin | so if you just call Foo.find(session, "blah"), it's like doing "select *". Foo.find(session, "blah", filters={"name": "blah", "filters": "name"}) would potentially reduce to exactly the item we want assuming that particular resource supports those filters | 19:18 |
| * sigmavirus24 has thoughts that he'll leave on the review | 19:19 | |
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| terrylhowe | I’ve thrown some comments down, but I still need to do a proper review | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | i wish there was a more general purpose way to do filtering without requesting a lot of data up front, but so many APIs do different things that it doesn't end up working. from this, it makes it easy in the proxy layer to handle those filters by itself without even giving a name | 19:23 |
| terrylhowe | I’d personally sooner the proxy layer didn’t get involved in fixing filtering problems | 19:24 |
| terrylhowe | because then those fixes aren’t available at the resource layer | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | i dont think it'll fix it, i think it just makes it so you can pass in the filters nicely. like find_flavor(size=90) | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | at the resource you would just do Flavor.find(..., filters={"minSize": 90}) to get back 90gb+ servers | 19:25 |
| briancurtin | (actually that takes MB) | 19:25 |
| briancurtin | we'd still be fully handling the problem in the resource layer, just making a convenient sheen on top in the proxy | 19:26 |
| terrylhowe | okay, sounds good | 19:26 |
| briancurtin | #topic non-paginated lists | 19:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "non-paginated lists (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:26 | |
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| briancurtin | we've gone a few different ways on this, including trying to determine it ourselves, trying to split out different methods, etc. they all have various penalties, including on needing extra requests. i think it's time to just make users say whether or not it's paginated at the resource layer with a parameter: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156664/ | 19:27 |
| briancurtin | that allows proxy implementors to always work with Resource.list instead of some form of Resource.page and everything else works the same | 19:29 |
| terrylhowe | Would this be kind of solved if page returned a list of resources instead of dicts? | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | because I was kind of thinking page should be changed to return a list of resources | 19:31 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i dont think so because then proxy usages would then have to consume the list just to turn it into a generator, so they'd all have to add a ``for i in R.page: yield i`` in order to work the same as the other things that work with list | 19:32 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i think that's actually a good change, but it doesn't solve the specific case since whether it's one page or 100 pages we should return a generator | 19:33 |
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| briancurtin | i'm starting to like the idea of flipping a parameter versus calling a different function. that also makes it easier to go back and forth for some of those resources which support but may disable pagination on the server side. if you know it's enabled, just flip the param and you're good | 19:36 |
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| briancurtin | and we should perhaps add that paginated flag into proxy methods so list_networks (which started the whole non-paginated list thing) so we can pass it down below as the user wants | 19:37 |
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| briancurtin | #topic dirty list not kept up to date - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156485/ | 19:41 |
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| briancurtin | while messing with some object_store stuff which i was trying to fix, i realized we're not properly tracking modified attributes, or the dirty list. resource.prop attribute access doesn't get tracked there, so i moved it to follow that same path so Resource.update calls work properly (since they only send dirty values) | 19:43 |
| stevelle | looks like something I probably broke along the way | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | it does have one thing that is commented out because it was somehow causing a test failure which i don't get. i'm going to come back and look at that and see what's going on, unless someone remembers creating that security_group_rule thing | 19:44 |
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| terrylhowe | I’m sure I did that I guess just to test that the security group constructs the rules | 19:44 |
| terrylhowe | as I recall, the GET returns all the rules in the body | 19:45 |
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| briancurtin | yeah that part makes sense (would also benefit from that Resource-as-type change, i think), but the specific test looking for __class__.__name__ oddly broke | 19:45 |
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| briancurtin | ah, we should probably just do self.assertEqual(type(sot.security_group_rules[0]), SecurityGroupRule) | 19:47 |
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| briancurtin | or something | 19:47 |
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| briancurtin | i'm going to try to rush through this last thing because i'm in the barbican mid-cycle meetup and i'm being summoned to an SDK conversation | 19:48 |
| briancurtin | #topic case insensitive attr dict - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156135/ | 19:48 |
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| briancurtin | setting any header attributes that come back doesn't always work because of the case mismatch. we can set and get our own things because we know the case, but we can't get anything that doesn't directly match. using this case insensitive dict to store what we get back helps this work | 19:50 |
| terrylhowe | scary change to me | 19:50 |
| briancurtin | we really have no other choice since header keys are case insensitive by nature and they're set in different cases than we ourselves create | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | but yeah, i dont love it, but we need it or something like it. requests itself does something pretty similar | 19:52 |
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| stevelle | so we rely on a case-insensitive dict but specify the preferred format for outbound props | 19:53 |
| briancurtin | stevelle: yep. anything we get which matches insensitively will be stored, and what we send outbound will have the case we configure the prop with | 19:54 |
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| stevelle | I haven't seen any places in the APIs where that will be a problem yet. | 19:54 |
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| briancurtin | the place where we have the most (only?) header stuff is in object_store, and it has all of the props as lowercase | 19:54 |
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| sigmavirus24 | yeah also requests will lower-case the headers by default typically | 19:55 |
| briancurtin | i have to drop off, they're apparently just pausing waiting for me to join this barbican/castellan conversation about things living in SDK. i'll be back on in -sdks in a bit | 19:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | but I think we offer a way to pull them out case sensitively | 19:55 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 19:55:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-17-19.00.html | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-17-19.00.txt | 19:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-17-19.00.log.html | 19:56 |
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