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| arosen1 | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:00 |
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| arosen1 | Hi everyone | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 24 17:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is arosen1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:00 |
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| arosen1 | Anyone around yet for the congress meeting? | 17:03 |
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| arosen1 | I guess we'll give it a few more minutes and let more people join | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | hi jwy | 17:04 |
| jwy | howdy | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | how goes it? | 17:04 |
| jwy | all right, waking up ;) | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | I hear you there :) | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | #topic status | 17:05 |
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| arosen1 | Anyone want to start and give their status report for the week? | 17:05 |
| jwy | i'll start then | 17:05 |
| jwy | policy creation ui is coming along | 17:06 |
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| jwy | the rule is divided into several steps | 17:06 |
| arosen1 | jwy: cool, i'm excited to see what you've done. | 17:07 |
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| arosen1 | Do you plan to push it to review shortly? | 17:07 |
| jwy | i have the parts to pick the data source tables and columns, and meatadata about the rule (name, comment), and part of the pieces to select the columns included in the resulting table | 17:07 |
| jwy | i was going to push it to review as a wip | 17:08 |
| arosen1 | jwy: cool! | 17:08 |
| arosen1 | Is that it for now? | 17:08 |
| jwy | one more thing - | 17:08 |
| jwy | been talking with yangli about abstracting the display of policies in the ui into a more human readable format | 17:09 |
| jwy | that's it for me | 17:09 |
| arosen1 | would that be a change to the policy language or just an abstracting on it in horizon? | 17:10 |
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| jwy | just in horizon, abstracting the datalog | 17:10 |
| arosen1 | cool | 17:10 |
| arosen1 | Anyone else want to go next? | 17:10 |
| arosen1 | Kishan or Zhenzan are you guys around? | 17:11 |
| arosen1 | I'm curious about the progress on the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/action-execution-interface that you guys are working on. | 17:11 |
| arosen1 | I can go in the mean time. | 17:12 |
| arosen1 | Not much news from me. I've been busy fighting to get the congress ci running again. | 17:12 |
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| arosen1 | We hit several infrastructure issues that took us offline | 17:12 |
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| arosen1 | hopefully it should be back up and running again (as of this morning) | 17:12 |
| arosen1 | that's it from me for this week so far. | 17:13 |
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| arosen2 | Sorry got disconnected | 17:15 |
| arosen2 | anyone else any yo go next? | 17:15 |
| arosen2 | If not we can probably end early. | 17:16 |
| arosen2 | Alright well lets end early then and if anyone has anything we can sync up in #congress later today. | 17:16 |
| arosen2 | catch you guys later | 17:16 |
| arosen2 | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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| arosen | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:01 |
| openstack | briancurtin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 24 19:01:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-24-17.00.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-24-17.00.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-24-17.00.log.html | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 24 19:01:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | if you're here for the SDK meeting, say hi | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | Brian Curtin | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ian Cordasco, Rackspace | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | hi | 19:02 |
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| sigmavirus24 | stevelle: ping | 19:04 |
| stevelle | Steve Lewis, Rackspace | 19:04 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ terrylhowe | 19:05 |
| terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:05 |
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| terrylhowe | sorry I’m late | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | here's a little agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2015-02-24_1900_UTC | 19:06 |
| briancurtin | #topic What to do with Resource.page? | 19:07 |
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| briancurtin | i wrote up some thoughts at https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1424211 on where page/list/find all fit together. i think page, being in the middle of it, should either just return teh body of the page, or create the resources contained in the body. we've had a few proposals over the last few weeks | 19:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1424211 in OpenStack SDK "Change how page, find, and list work together" [Critical,New] | 19:08 |
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| briancurtin | i really think the only one we can't do is the intermediate list. i think one way or another - body or yielded objects - we should just pick one and go | 19:09 |
| stevelle | I think I like the factoring of having page provide the body | 19:09 |
| stevelle | but tough call | 19:10 |
| stevelle | that should keep page as a fairly thin abstraction that helps find do it's job easier | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | since we're now expecting consumers to get a list of objects from list(paginate=bool), i think page giving the body probably makes sense so we're not providing two different ways to get the same thing. if we go that route, i wonder if page should then become private, since it's an implementation detail of how list is built | 19:11 |
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| sigmavirus24 | briancurtin: so personally I like generators everywhere =P | 19:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | but if we're going with page providing just the body, then I agree it should be private | 19:12 |
| stevelle | agreed private | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: since find has to use list, did you have a use case for page providing that list? | 19:13 |
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| briancurtin | *"that list" meaning litearlly a list type | 19:13 |
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| terrylhowe | find could use a list, it was just complicating find to use list, so I created page | 19:15 |
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| terrylhowe | I think some of the changes out there will make page less important as a public method | 19:16 |
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| briancurtin | while find could use a list, i think it breaks the chain of involving generators. are we ok with page moving to _page and just staying-as is to return the body? and then we go to work on making find nice? | 19:19 |
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| terrylhowe | yes, I think so | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155362/ - auth plugins | 19:20 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i haven't adjusted my rackspace plugin yet to move over to this, but i'm going to do that within the next few days and try it out | 19:21 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: does any of that have to change with the KSC stuff or is it fine as-is? | 19:21 |
| briancurtin | KSC stuff as in these recent resynchronization changes | 19:22 |
| terrylhowe | the dynamic service load stuff is similar, but unrelated to auth plugins | 19:22 |
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| terrylhowe | he ksc stuff should be fine as is | 19:23 |
| briancurtin | ok cool | 19:23 |
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| briancurtin | and speaking of KSC stuff, im wondering what we should do purely for auth plugins since we're currently staying in sync with KSC but doing our own thing...so i have a plugin to fall in line with http://www.jamielennox.net/blog/2015/02/17/loading-authentication-plugins/ and it's basically just the same thing here for SDK | 19:26 |
| briancurtin | like for right now, a plugin (as i understand, or as i previously implemented) provides both auth and services | 19:26 |
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| terrylhowe | well, the plugin authenticates and parses the service catalog | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | user preferences defines the service you can work with | 19:30 |
| briancurtin | so, i think i write an auth plugin that works with KSC directly and it also works for SDK, and then i have a plugin that provides our services/preferences, which depends on that auth plugin? | 19:31 |
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| terrylhowe | I would think a plugin that works for us would also work for KSC, but I haven’t tried it | 19:33 |
| terrylhowe | the biggest difference is KSC plugins out there depend on oslo-config and have command line args in them | 19:33 |
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| briancurtin | (which i hate) | 19:34 |
| terrylhowe | where we have valid_options instead | 19:34 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, I don’t like putting command line args down that low | 19:34 |
| terrylhowe | and the dependency on oslo config there is inconvenient, not sure which point you hate | 19:35 |
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| briancurtin | having to provide a config file with the auth args to load and use a plugin is quite low on the usability scale | 19:35 |
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| briancurtin | it's really just the whole experience. if my app is built on top of that, i'll have my own config and then a config just for auth of a service it's using. that feels really bad but i guess i need to work more with it | 19:36 |
| briancurtin | eh getting off on a tangent anyway | 19:37 |
| briancurtin | #topic making another release? | 19:37 |
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| terrylhowe | are there any issues outstanding that need to be fixed before a release? | 19:39 |
| briancurtin | i think find will probably take some iteration and time to get right, but we pushed a lot of stuff through in the last ~2 weeks that would be nice to toy with in a package and start writing about and whatnot. i've been messing with a few compute things and we made some things easier there, but would be nice to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158191/ in | 19:39 |
| briancurtin | so it works the same as flavor | 19:39 |
| terrylhowe | yes, I’d like to give an OSC integration another shot, I normally learn a lot from that | 19:41 |
| briancurtin | yeah i need to start looking more at that (been saying that for a while i guess...) | 19:42 |
| stevelle | no strong opinion but I'd rather see the plugin topic resolved prior | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | stevelle: since plugin work could take some time since we haven't fully dug into it, i dont want to get into a situation where we wait for it and then we get deep into all sorts of other stuff like the last two weeks. the more often we release, the better, imo | 19:45 |
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| briancurtin | makes it easier to write about and talk about when i can just tell people to install it versus checkout certain branches since we're stuck in a point we can't release from due to nested dependencies | 19:46 |
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| stevelle | briancurtin: as I said, no strong opinion. So long as it's clear breaking changes are expected, especially at integration points like plugins. | 19:46 |
| stevelle | I think that is clear enough already | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | so release away I guess | 19:48 |
| terrylhowe | we could always cut another once we figure out service loading | 19:48 |
| briancurtin | cool, i'm going to wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158191/ to land and then tag a release | 19:49 |
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| briancurtin | releasing whenever we get through big changes or even big groups of changes is ideal to me, especially while we don't currently have the need to do formal release planning, just do it by what we're working on | 19:50 |
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| terrylhowe | that’s a relatively easy one, but it wasn’t a big priority for me | 19:50 |
| terrylhowe | image details are important? | 19:50 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: not super super important, but im working on a few compute things where it would be nice to just have the same info that we just added for flavor. it's the same thing as that change | 19:51 |
| terrylhowe | okay | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | anything else going on? | 19:52 |
| terrylhowe | nothing here | 19:52 |
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| briancurtin | cool. thanks all! | 19:55 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 24 19:56:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-24-19.01.html | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-24-19.01.txt | 19:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-24-19.01.log.html | 19:56 |
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